Author Topic: New Burnside Pumper (Read 213836 times)

bittenyakka · « **on:** December 15, 2006, 11:32:50 AM »

I heard from a non firefighter that he saw Burnside pumper on the back of a truck the other day. can anyone confirm or deny this?

SA Firey · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2006, 02:38:12 PM »

Quote from: bittenyakka on December 15, 2006, 11:32:50 AM

I heard from a non firefighter that he saw Burnside pumper on the back of a truck the other day. can anyone confirm or deny this?

The old one or a new one?

Stefan KIRKMOE · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2006, 04:00:43 PM »

haha, rumors only, the old girl is going strong, just as it has been for the past 25 years.... So no, it isn't being piggy backed around on any trucks....

Stefan KIRKMOE
Senior Firefighter
Vehicle Replacement Team
Burnside Brigade

Camo · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2006, 04:02:52 PM »

You may not want to tell us but what has the Vehicle Replacement Team discussed and agreed on?

5271rescue · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2006, 04:17:25 PM »

I did hear(rumour) that burside had placed an order for a new pumper as they did not wont the type 2 pumper

Ryan · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2006, 04:27:47 PM »

Why wouldnt they want a type 2?

bittenyakka · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:47:43 PM »

well it was apparently the old one. but this has been disproved.

SA Firey · « **Reply #7 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:02:39 PM »

Quote from: bittenyakka on December 15, 2006, 06:47:43 PM

well it was apparently the old one. but this has been disproved.

Wasnt that the one Happy Valley have now because they didnt want a Type 2

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #8 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:30:06 PM »

Little birdy told me that CFS are chipping in the equivelant money of a type 2 and burnside is coming to the party with the difference in cost for the pumper they wan't.

Stefan KIRKMOE · « **Reply #9 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:43:53 PM »

As far I can't really confirm nor deny any "rumors" that may be out there. All that can really be said is that the brigade has established a working party that is meeting regulary with state & regional staff to discuss various pro's / con's in various different appliances to try and find some outcomes for heavy urban interface areas. This has involved assessment of vehicles & techniques such as the "type 2" and others. There is currently no spec's written, nothing is "signed off", no chassis have been ordered / delivered or build for the brigade and the process is ongoing. There is currently no financial agreement in place either. Am happy to keep people posted when something does happen but at this stage there really isn't anything to be talking about, sorry!

Stefan

calspec · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:47:40 PM »

Nice to finally get some of the stupid rumours quashed. keep us up to speed on any developments.

bittenyakka · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:51:11 PM »

well it was my grandfather who told me and the only truck he would recognize is BP mainly because it is a Volvo so if HVP was a Volvo then it he may have been confused.

Stefan KIRKMOE · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2006, 06:22:46 PM »

Happy Pumper was a Hino.... it was most likely the old Belair Pumper that was a Volvo and has most recently spent time at Murray Bridge until their type 2 arrived.

Camo · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2006, 07:31:45 PM »

are you able to tell us why the "Type 2" wasnt suitable replacement?

and also how long are the CFS & Burnside going to keep going with the current pumper?

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2006, 08:53:27 PM »

So for the benefit of all us curious folk out there what type of truck is Burnside looking for???
Cab/Chassis
How much water??
Pumping Capacity??
Speciality Features (like BA Seats, CAFS, Rescue Capabilities etc...)
Is it a spcial build or a product already in service???

Any info would be nice but if you want to keep that to yourselves that fine

Ryan · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2006, 09:27:59 PM »

a Scania with PTO driven pump, BA seats, automatic transmission, rescue capability, 1800L, in built foam delivery already in service in Adleiade and surrounding suburbs.

SA Firey · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2006, 09:29:52 PM »

AKA MFS appliance

And you would prefer a RED one yeah

Ryan · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2006, 09:31:27 PM »

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5271rescue · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:26:52 AM »

There is nothing wrong with a type 2 and I can't understand why burnside knocked it back,there call rate has dropped over the years and they don't do many COQ as much as they did. They should have taken the type 2 and be done with it......... If CFS give them what they really want a MFS pumper then we again will have different type pumpers when at last we are starting to see standard pumpers come into this service.. may be there station is way to small for all that they have...

oz fire · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2007, 07:36:34 AM »

Do we build an applinace for the risks we (CFS) face, to for the risks others face???

CFS will undoubtedly turn this into a complete joke and make a laughing stock of any process they may have the states other 464 brigades following.

SA Firey · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2007, 02:23:29 PM »

Did someone say standardisation.......when

fireblade · « **Reply #21 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:42:33 AM »

Kind of makes me laugh when people worry about what Burnside get as a new Pump. If they got extra cash that they can use fine as long as it does not cause the CFS to pay out more in maintenance on the thing down the track.

In saying that though they are by no means the busiest brigade with any extra special risks, so why do they need to be special.

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #22 on:** May 11, 2007, 01:46:41 PM »

Quote from: fireblade on May 11, 2007, 01:42:33 AM

In saying that though they are by no means the busiest brigade with any extra special risks, so why do they need to be special.

In my opinion, attitudes like that are the reason the CFS has the problems with the fleet that it does. If brigades like Burnside hadn't stood up for themselves and asked for decent equipment and appliances, we'd still be fighting fires with Hessian sacks on horseback.

fireblade · « **Reply #23 on:** May 12, 2007, 07:52:40 PM »

I don't think its that drastic tell me one reason why Burnside need a better pumper than anyone else?

Whats wrong with the current Pumpers CFS are bringing out and in what area's are they lacking to what Burnside think that they need?

5271rescue · « **Reply #24 on:** May 13, 2007, 08:27:58 AM »

Just give them them a type 2 pumper as this is the path that cfs have taken in gettng pumpers out into brigade's that need that type of appliances. burnside brigade are no differant than any other urban brigade in region one or region 5 there call rate has dropped down and they dont do a lot of large jobs like they used to. They should be happy with a type 2 as I know a number of brigade's who have now got a CFS type 2 pumper are thrilled with their new pumper. So does anyone really know why they dont want a type 2??..

If they have that much money to buy their own appliances well let them but who will own the appliances it will not be the brigade but the CFS...