Author Topic: East Coast Strike Teams 2006 (Read 38754 times)

filtered · « **Reply #50 on:** December 02, 2006, 07:17:29 AM »

Quote from: boy of probation on December 01, 2006, 09:47:48 PM

ive heard gambiers a bit of a non event. everyones just gone mental coz its in a pine forest.

Hmm, spoken like someone who hasn't seen a going forest fire or has any knowledge of the potential of these incidents...

5271rescue · « **Reply #51 on:** December 02, 2006, 08:12:44 AM »

Well we got home from the gambier fire at 2330 hrs and our team worked well in trying to stop the spread from the east side into 3 year old pines. many times the fire broke out further up the line where wattle range and gambier group appliances where working.This fire only small in size around 250/300hcts of pine did have the potentaion to spread and spot into glencoe and compton. The wind just kept on blowing and at one stage I had wind speed at ground level at 30kmph but further up the hill it was more like 50/60.One thing I will say those firekings are worth there wait in gold. The region one strike time arrived about 2130 hours anhd where put onto the ground not sure what they would be doing as the area is very step and if anyone has been to a forest fire before will know that there are more hazards there than at a grass or scrub fire.... I did take some pictures and these will be posted on the CFSPROMO SITE. The 4 bombers did the best they could and some very windy and rough conditions....

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #52 on:** December 02, 2006, 01:12:25 PM »

1919088 13:39:00 02-12-06 taylorxh:D and C shift NSW deployment on Monday not going ahead..Planning for A shift deployment on tuesday and/or Wednesday.Further details from DO Thompson S

Well for all the crankers out there it looks like you have to be MFS to go to NSW sorry

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 02, 2006, 03:28:26 PM »

*Sigh*

summer hasnt even showed its true colours yet and another fire is running rampant

1908992 16:40:39 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER, MYLOR, STIRLING, UPPER STURT & BRADBURY TANKER RESPOND STRIKE TEAM TO HARROGATE FIRE - STAGING AT LITTLEHAMPTON FIRE STATION - AWAIT ARRIVAL OF LOFTY DO.

1909538 16:00:32 02-12-06 SHQ: SIGINC: FYI: BIM (IGNITION DEVELOPMENT) ISSUED FOR HARROGATE FIRE - DSC MILLER

1912670 15:15:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: AIRCREW RESPONSE REQUIRED FOR GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE - PLEASE CONFIRM PAGE AND PICKUP LOCATIONS WITH SOCC ASAP

1925153 15:30:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: HELITAK 533 & 534 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE NEAR RANGE RD

medevac · « **Reply #54 on:** December 02, 2006, 03:45:38 PM »

mm was having a listen to the scanner on that one...

around 30 appliances.... five groups

only 20ha

bittenyakka · « **Reply #55 on:** December 02, 2006, 05:26:29 PM »

I may have stated in another thread but that kind of response will mean that by mid December crews will be absolutely sick of being that 4th or 5th strike team who rocks up and does nothing I have been on two already and in my brigade it is taking a toll in people who stay home from work to do piss all the the fire.

It doesn't really sound right that we want to fight a large fire but it is kinda true that I would rather give up time to work my but off than stand around.

Camo · « **Reply #56 on:** December 02, 2006, 06:57:24 PM »

Mt gambier fire burned 185Ha.

I better refrain from saying anything else otherwise i may end up in hot water.

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #57 on:** December 02, 2006, 07:09:02 PM »

Some things are best left unsaid Camo

lilmiss_firey · « **Reply #58 on:** December 02, 2006, 07:34:37 PM »

Quote from: Robert34 on December 02, 2006, 03:28:26 PM

*Sigh* summer hasnt even showed its true colours yet and another fire is running rampant

1908992 16:40:39 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER, MYLOR, STIRLING, UPPER STURT & BRADBURY TANKER RESPOND STRIKE TEAM TO HARROGATE FIRE - STAGING AT LITTLEHAMPTON FIRE STATION - AWAIT ARRIVAL OF LOFTY DO.

1909538 16:00:32 02-12-06 SHQ: SIGINC: FYI: BIM (IGNITION DEVELOPMENT) ISSUED FOR HARROGATE FIRE - DSC MILLER

1912670 15:15:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: AIRCREW RESPONSE REQUIRED FOR GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE - PLEASE CONFIRM PAGE AND PICKUP LOCATIONS WITH SOCC ASAP

1925153 15:30:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: HELITAK 533 & 534 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE NEAR RANGE RD

can any 1 give any more details about this fire that wasn't already on the paging site? as i'm not in the area to know or see anything!!

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 02, 2006, 08:28:56 PM »

Quote from: lilmiss_firey on December 02, 2006, 07:34:37 PM

Quote from: Robert34 on December 02, 2006, 03:28:26 PM
*Sigh* summer hasnt even showed its true colours yet and another fire is running rampant

1908992 16:40:39 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER, MYLOR, STIRLING, UPPER STURT & BRADBURY TANKER RESPOND STRIKE TEAM TO HARROGATE FIRE - STAGING AT LITTLEHAMPTON FIRE STATION - AWAIT ARRIVAL OF LOFTY DO.

1909538 16:00:32 02-12-06 SHQ: SIGINC: FYI: BIM (IGNITION DEVELOPMENT) ISSUED FOR HARROGATE FIRE - DSC MILLER

1912670 15:15:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: AIRCREW RESPONSE REQUIRED FOR GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE - PLEASE CONFIRM PAGE AND PICKUP LOCATIONS WITH SOCC ASAP

1925153 15:30:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: HELITAK 533 & 534 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE NEAR RANGE RD

can any 1 give any more details about this fire that wasn't already on the paging site? as i'm not in the area to know or see anything!!

The reason why most of us know about fires in different regions is because we have scanners that can pick up GRN voice traffic as well as bomber aircraft traffic on 132.550 Mhz (aircraft band)

Maybe you should think about investing in buying a uniden scanner like the t8 or 780 off of ebay or from a local electronics store thats how some of us vollies are able to know before hand how serious an emergency is by just listening to Forestry,NPWSA,SAAS or SES radio traffic

medevac · « **Reply #60 on:** December 02, 2006, 09:17:25 PM »

what else is there to say lil_missfirey?

around 5 groups worth of appliances, for a 20Ha fire..... rather strange

Camo - whats the go mate? it was only 185Ha but from my understanding was crowning in a young pine forest.... quite dangerous really... and huge risk to the townships of glencoe, compton, etc...

? so whats the inside scoop from a local?

Crankus Maximus · « **Reply #61 on:** December 02, 2006, 11:41:51 PM »

Quote from: filtered on December 02, 2006, 07:17:29 AM

Quote from: boy of probation on December 01, 2006, 09:47:48 PM
ive heard gambiers a bit of a non event. everyones just gone mental coz its in a pine forest.

Hmm, spoken like someone who hasn't seen a going forest fire or has any knowledge of the potential of these incidents...

dude... fair enough if your sooo experienced...but wow... way to be condecending... turns out he was right mt gambier was a really long drive and a 24 hour day to basically mop up... biggest flame we saw we saved to boil the billy at about 530 this morning... so an apology might be in order...

Crankus Maximus · « **Reply #62 on:** December 02, 2006, 11:59:47 PM »

Quote from: 5271rescue on December 02, 2006, 08:12:44 AM

Well we got home from the gambier fire at 2330 hrs and our team worked well in trying to stop the spread from the east side into 3 year old pines. many times the fire broke out further up the line where wattle range and gambier group appliances where working.This fire only small in size around 250/300hcts of pine did have the potentaion to spread and spot into glencoe and compton. The wind just kept on blowing and at one stage I had wind speed at ground level at 30kmph but further up the hill it was more like 50/60.One thing I will say those firekings are worth there wait in gold. The region one strike time arrived about 2130 hours anhd where put onto the ground not sure what they would be doing as the area is very step and if anyone has been to a forest fire before will know that there are more hazards there than at a grass or scrub fire.... I did take some pictures and these will be posted on the CFSPROMO SITE. The 4 bombers did the best they could and some very windy and rough conditions....

hey mate... yeah from the looks of things it went scone hot!! you guys must have done a great job coz things were well contained and knocked down by the we got there... lots of smoking dirt and stumps for us to soak... HOW COOL ARE THOSE FIRE KINGS!!! hahaha im such a crank... till next time...

Darius · « **Reply #63 on:** December 03, 2006, 08:59:33 AM »

Quote from: Robert34 on December 02, 2006, 08:28:56 PM

The reason why most of us know about fires in different regions is because we have scanners that can pick up GRN voice traffic as well as bomber aircraft traffic on 132.550 Mhz (aircraft band)

you won't be able to pick up talkgroups from different regions, only local regional talkgroups and some state ones. This is where people streaming their scanners onto the internet from different locations around the state will be very useful.

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #64 on:** December 03, 2006, 09:45:09 AM »

If your trunk tracker is in trunk mode it can only pick up regional & state talkgroups programmed but in open scan mode its able to pick up every piece of radio traffic around

Trunk Scan:Searches programmed data sites for GRN voice traffic
Open Scan: Scans every frequency freely and picks up any traffic weak or strong

Darius · « **Reply #65 on:** December 03, 2006, 10:00:26 AM »

I'm not talking about what's programmed into your scanner but rather what traffic is carried on the GRN sites. If only your regional (and the state) talkgroups are on the GRN sites in your area then that's all you'll get.

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #66 on:** December 03, 2006, 10:43:47 AM »

Quote from: Darius on December 03, 2006, 10:00:26 AM

I'm not talking about what's programmed into your scanner but rather what traffic is carried on the GRN sites. If only your regional (and the state) talkgroups are on the GRN sites in your area then that's all you'll get.

True Darius but my scanner has both trunk & open scan capabilities meaning if im sick of missing out on conversations i can just turn off the trunking and leave it to run in free scan cause that way i'll be able to pick up any talkgroup or voice traffic cause its not searching through data sites

Camo · « **Reply #67 on:** December 03, 2006, 03:13:59 PM »

From what im told the Mt Gambier fire was started by a Forestry SA Slasher (poor bugga)

and at the start they came within a hose length to controlling it until they ran short of hose and then the wind picked it up and sent it flying!

SA Firey · « **Reply #68 on:** December 03, 2006, 03:59:05 PM »

Quote from: Camo on December 03, 2006, 03:13:59 PM

From what im told the Mt Gambier fire was started by a Forestry SA Slasher (poor bugga)

That proves the rumour I heard

CaptCom · « **Reply #69 on:** December 04, 2006, 07:03:45 AM »

Yes Ryan and also Prevent Injury or Suppress Wildfire...I am well aware of what is required....there is nothing worse than taking probies interstate...too keen..too green..

Smokeydk · « **Reply #70 on:** December 04, 2006, 07:36:16 AM »

What I get on GRN is constant screaching and locking on channels...and most of the time its Ambos and bus drivers convos..but I do get fire info..but its constant pressing the scan button........NO!! My scanner is not Trunk...its a Radioshack Pro 71 also can get access to UBC780XLT but its not currently programmed for Trunking and gets same screaching squelching noise

Darius · « **Reply #71 on:** December 04, 2006, 07:59:57 AM »

Quote from: Robert34 on December 03, 2006, 10:43:47 AM

True Darius but my scanner has both trunk & open scan capabilities meaning if im sick of missing out on conversations i can just turn off the trunking and leave it to run in free scan cause that way i'll be able to pick up any talkgroup or voice traffic cause its not searching through data sites

I don't think this is the place (or thread) to talk about scanning, probably the sa-scan group would be more appropriate so all I'll say is you should read up on how trunked radio networks operate (there's tons of info just google) and repeat "If only your regional (and the state) talkgroups are on the GRN sites in your area then that's all you'll get."

5271rescue · « **Reply #72 on:** December 04, 2006, 03:44:37 PM »

With around 50 fires in VICTORIA all in the high country where CFS went almost 4 years ago I think you may see a call for help but who will go with still fires in our own back yard....its going to be a long hot summer and everyone will get a run....

Camo · « **Reply #73 on:** December 04, 2006, 03:49:03 PM »

Not sure of the details but im told the GRN fell over at the start of the Burrungle (Mt Gambier) Fire. Bill do you know the details?

As for Interstate deployments. I think we can say that each state is on its own this year until someone has some substantial rain they can release trucks and firefighters. But going on current trends all our firefighters are going to be filtered by the end of January maybe even December.

24P · « **Reply #74 on:** December 04, 2006, 03:49:32 PM »

read somewhere that the CFA have pulled back their strike teams from NSW as well cause of the potential of these fires