RECRUITMENT 2011

[kj]

Works for me.

thanks

[wicky]

Didnt make it again. Moving on will not be doing it again.

The pyschometric test is flawed 

Are you sure about that?


POSITIVE.

[wicky]

Recruits fail personality test MICHAEL OWEN From: The Advertiser December 25, 2006 11:30PM
MORE than one-third of people wanting to join the Metropolitan Fire Service are rejected because of personality quirks.
Firefighters have described a new personality test as "flawed" and called for a review before the next intake early next year.

Latest MFS recruitment data, obtained by The Advertiser under Freedom of Information, shows that of the 443 people who sat the personality profile test for the first time last year, only 159 passed.

Just 50 of the 614 people who applied to become firefighters were successful during the most recent recruitment process.

The 8 per cent success rate confirms just how difficult it is to enter the profession, with the MFS saying it was "not unusual to have some people try up to six times to become an MFS officer".


According to the FoI documents, of 614 initial applicants, 531 were invited to undertake the recruitment process last year.




Stage one, the shuttle run, was failed by 41 potential recruits, while 279 were rejected during the personality profile/firefighter ability phase, 92 did not make it past the interview/assessment centre stage and 10 failed job-related task testing. No applicants failed the medical exam and one did not pass a police check.

MFS spokesman John Foody said the personality profile, used for the first time last year, was a "valuable tool to ensure potential firefighters are able to work closely, in pressure situations, with other firefighters from diverse backgrounds".

"People who are more sociable may be better suited to being in the fire service because you're working closely with your team for extended periods of time," he said.

"If you are too introverted or too domineering this doesn't best suit the role of a firefighter."

But United Fire Fighters Union of SA president Bill Jamieson said there were many cases in which intelligent, stable and well-adjusted people were rejected by the MFS for failing the personality test.

He said the union was not consulted before the test was introduced and demanded a full review of the recruitment process.

"I think it is flawed," he said.

 

[BT085]

sorry to hear about ppl who hav had the bad news.. I verify my previous posts that it really is based on pych testing. As I did not finish maths questions (got up to question 16 and guessed the rest) also was not too confident with my reading comprehension... However I have made the interview. I believe it does go to show that really maths stuff doesnt matter (as long as u get the 4+9 stuff right) it really is based mostly on pych tsts and being the right fit.. An unfortunate process but I guess thats alll they can do

[Alan (Big Al)]

just curious wicky seeing as the article is from 4 and a bit years ago did you check that it hasnt been changed since that article before making a decsion its flawed?

[flyonthewall]

wicky, your article is outdated.


  

[tft]

I think as long as you get most of the maths questions correct, it all comes down to the Psyc test.
It was explained to me as you need to fit in (bell curve) a certain rang for the test. I have no idea what the range is. I have passed the test a while ago. I never finished all of the maths and for the word association. Well the last few questions was a guess. Quick fill in anything.

[Alex]

Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.

[Monger]

Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.

As i have said before you need a bit of luck to get thru to the last 150. You may have been suitable from the psych but not in the 150 they pick. It isnt a coincidence that approx 150 pass the psych every year

[kj]

Ferret, a couple of questions if you don't mind as you seem to be one not vying into the petty arguments.
1. Do the MFS open applications to the public every year or do they draw from a pool of people that just missed out the previous year until they need a bigger pool.
2. I failed the psych, which to be honest surprised and disappointed me as I thought I would make it to at least the interview,if I'm to sit it again and answer differently can they tell? do they keep a record of who has applied in the past and their results?

And to anyone else out there, what do you know about the airservices firies, I love what I do with the CFS hence the attempt to join the MFS but I would be just as happy with airservices as it's better than nothing.

Ta   

[hotfire]

How do you know what you failed in the test?
I received the letter with a #5 on it, does anyone know what this means? It doesn't say have a messed up on.. I gotta feeling it might be the phych.

Cheers

[kj]

I know I failed the psych because the aptitude test was so easy.

[Monger]

Ferret, a couple of questions if you don't mind as you seem to be one not vying into the petty arguments.
1. Do the MFS open applications to the public every year or do they draw from a pool of people that just missed out the previous year until they need a bigger pool.
2. I failed the psych, which to be honest surprised and disappointed me as I thought I would make it to at least the interview,if I'm to sit it again and answer differently can they tell? do they keep a record of who has applied in the past and their results?

And to anyone else out there, what do you know about the airservices firies, I love what I do with the CFS hence the attempt to join the MFS but I would be just as happy with airservices as it's better than nothing.

Ta   

Im not an expert on the recruitment but how often they call for applications depends on how many recruits they need due to retirements, new station etc. Have heard a rumour they will do 1 squad this year out of current group and maybe 1 or 2 more early next year from same lot if they need more. The psych testing is only valid for 1 year. Not sure if they would notice if you answered differently but you just need to make sure you are consistent with your answers throughout. The test is designed to catch people out who try to answer with responses they think the mfs would want. I would guess they have a record of if you have applied before, many people take 2 or 3 or even more times before they finally get in.

[hotfire]

ok.. Thanks ferret. I think I know what I stuffed up on... A couple of the questions that I answered I was not happy with. If I could answer the again I would have answered them differently.

[wicky]

Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.

Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.

1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
  b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True

2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
  b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True

A serious answer would be appreciated.  

[wicky]

wicky, your article is outdated.


  

Its still relevant............

[Monger]

Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.

Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.

1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
  b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True

2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
  b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True

A serious answer would be appreciated.  

You do own a firearm so question 1a) should have been true aswell

[crossy]

I got notified by email. Not too dissapointed
Though only 19 so plenty of years of trying left!   

[Monger]

I got notified by email. Not too dissapointed
Though only 19 so plenty of years of trying left!   

You had little chance. Youngest I've heard of is 21. They like "life experience"

[crossy]

I did figure that would be the case but can't hurt to try and it does give me an idea
What preparation to do for the next intake

[Alex]

Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.

Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.

1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
  b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True

2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
  b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True

A serious answer would be appreciated.  

Is this meant to be a set of true/false questions? Your answers do not make sense for the questions posed.

[flyonthewall]

Quote from: flyonthewall on Yesterday at 10:44:34 PM
wicky, your article is outdated.


 


Its still relevant............

I understand your frustration wicky. I have been there.

[6739264]

Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.

Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.

1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
  b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True

2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
  b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True

A serious answer would be appreciated. 

AS much this isn't quite how the questions are set out, I'll try.

For question one, your answers indicate you're lying regarding part A) given your answer for part B).

If you own more than 3 firearms, then yes, you do own a firearm.

Lying is bad

Not too sure where you're going with the second part question.

[K99]

I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.

Then the whinging starts......

[Bolts84]

I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.

Then the whinging starts......

Are you in the MFS K99??