Incident Stats

[COBB]

Last season's Incident Stats have been uploaded to http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/news_display.asp?HeadLine_ID=862

Are these stats used for anything like funding or allocation of equipment etc?
Or are they purely for information only?

Are descrepancies between brigades figures and HQ figures the norm or the exception? Looking at my own brigades figures over the last couple of years they  differ on average between 15%-20%, always with the brigade figure higher. Are some types of calls not counted?

Cheers
COBB

[Alex]

The differances between brigade and HQ stats could be either due to reports not submitted, lost somewhere along the way or not entered properly at HQ.

The interenet stats at Pips site, although useful dont seem to be one hundred percent accurate, and for some reason all changed recently. Previous years stats took a dive?

A brigade i was with for 08/09 did smack on 100 incidents, yet the site reads 67... bit strange. Brigade i am currently with is showing 4 less for last year than our brigade records also.

So lets hope theyre not used for funding!

[Alan (Big Al)]

same for our brigade we nearly always seem to show 4-10 calls below what we actually did

[Darius]

ditto I reckon Al is spot on, we always do 4-10 calls more than HQ seem to record.

[Pipster]

All the stats on the site are directly from CFS HQ records....we don't do any manipulations of the data......but we can correct the data, if suplied by CFS HQ....

My own brigade is listed as a few less call on the data, than the brigade did....and I know we sent the incident reports in!!

Activity stats will be uploaded soon.   

Pip

[6739264]

How can we really discuss accuracy when it comes to incident stats when we don't use AIRS correctly?

[Darren]

Having worked at CFS entering these reports what you send doesn't always come out the other end correctly, and some brigades take the incident reporting to far, I remember one high turning out brigade sent in a report and I quote "I noticed the toilet window on the station was open, secured for secuirty" I mean come on !!

[Pipster]

Having worked at CFS entering these reports what you send doesn't always come out the other end correctly, and some brigades take the incident reporting to far, I remember one high turning out brigade sent in a report and I quote "I noticed the toilet window on the station was open, secured for secuirty" I mean come on !!

Doesn't that make it an activity, not an incident...... 

[Alan (Big Al)]

i have noticed a brigade website that put down burnoffs, and silly things like that as callouts in their incident section....

[CFS_Firey]

So lets hope theyre not used for funding!

Actually, I think they are, but only to an extent.  I think there's a threshold, (150 calls a year rings a bell), after which a brigade, (or group), gets more funding.  From memory it wasn't all that much though.  (Notice a pattern of uncertainty here?)

My brigade always gets short changed on the official tally too - I'm interested to know why there's a discrepancy...

[Bagyassfirey]

ahhh really there only stats wouldnt it be good if every brigade was under 10 per year!

[rescue5271]

Nice to see that HQ cant get the stats right again,so the fax machine at HQ must eat the reports or they fall into a bin somewhere along the fax line.....

[Darren]

I often has reports come out black, or so crooked that they couldn't be read, or upside down, thats always a good one.

[boredmatrix]

if you want to "fix" your stats so you can boost funding....go and see Kevin from SAAS - he's a comms manager but a whizz at fudging figures!!

[rescue5271]

Will be great once we see the online airs reporting being done from group bases...

[Zippy]

a trial started....2008??

[Alex]

Nice to see that HQ cant get the stats right again,so the fax machine at HQ must eat the reports or they fall into a bin somewhere along the fax line.....

When i worked there, there would be several reports a day faxed through upside down... Don't be too quick to always blame staff.

[Alan (Big Al)]

haha mind you i remember getting the list for reports our brigade hadnt put in and there were a couple i had phoned through myself on there 

[CFS_Firey]

haha mind you i remember getting the list for reports our brigade hadnt put in and there were a couple i had phoned through myself on there 

How did you get the list?  Is that something HQ can provide?

[Darren]

It used to come in a letter to the Captain do they not do this anymore?

[Pipster]

Didn't see any this year....but got the incident list a few years ago sent to Captains, via the GO...... but haven't seen any for some time....

Pip

[Alan (Big Al)]

we had one sent to our group early last year then passed down to brigades with dates and times of jobs that no reports had been recieved for.... havent seen one in the last 12 months

[rescue5271]

You can request one via the region....

[pumprescue]

You can always tell the brigades who to try make themselves look busy come June they call in 30-40 trees down to boost the figures...and yes just because you send a report in does not mean it meets any criteria for a firecall hence why your numbers may be lower.

[CFS_Firey]

...and yes just because you send a report in does not mean it meets any criteria for a firecall hence why your numbers may be lower.

What criteria do you need to fulfill to make it a firecall?  Surely an appliance leaving the station to deal with an incident (regardless of what it is) would be considered a call?