Author Topic: Kilburn plastics fire (Read 30992 times)

Benji · « **on:** September 14, 2009, 07:10:38 PM »

MFS: *CFSRES INC057 14/09/09 17:53,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,INWOOD AV,KILBURN MAP 93 P 11 TG182,PGF PLASTIC GRANULATING

So far following units paged..
ADL205
CAR041
APK361
PPT371
OAK301
AD2015
ADL206
AD2090
PAD251
WDV243
WDV249
AD2011
AD202
BPK451
SAL329
OAK303
ADL201
STM401
CPK411
ELZ331
GGV311
BLP211
OHH421

Sounds like it is an interesting job.. LPG tanks and other factories under threat & issues with water supply.

2468 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2009, 07:25:15 PM »

Umm it could be an interesting job... 1k's litres of diesel and 1k's litres LPG with all the plastics...

Any more news of whether is a gonna yet?

Benji · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2009, 07:28:33 PM »

AdelaideNow has a story running at http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26071773-5006301,00.html

bajdas · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2009, 07:39:32 PM »

Multiple COQ's

18:40:43 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40, MFS Glen Osmond 441
18:40:13 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 37, MFS Paradise 221 Response
18:37:18 PRIROITY 1 TO ADEL STN MFS Christie Downs 431
18:37:01 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40 CFS Eden Hills Response
18:33:52 SECOND PUMP TO GLENOSMOND CFS Burnside Response
18:33:22 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Burnside Response
18:32:47 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36 CFS Dalkeith Response
18:32:09 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 CFS Salisbury Response
18:23:13 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 20 MFS Christie Downs 431
18:21:48 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 24 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
18:21:00 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 21 CFS Burnside Response
18:16:09 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
18:15:39 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 42 CFS Happy Valley Response
18:09:22 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 24 MFS Stn 20
18:08:37 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

18:54:28 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC072 14/09/09 18:56,RESPOND FACTORY FIRE,107 MOORINGE AV,CAMDEN PARK MAP 128 P 11 TG182,,STM409 EDNH00 PDS221 CFS Eden Hills Response

19:17:35 CAN YOU PLS CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE HEADING TO STATION 36 ANGLE PARK CFS Dalkeith Response
19:23:43 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 21 CFS Hermitage Response

19:24:43 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC060 14/09/09 19:26,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,INWOOD AV,KILBURN MAP 93 P 11 TG182,,SAL321 DALK19 ATHL19 CFS Salisbury Response

19:28:11 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40 CFS Belair Response
19:29:39 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 42 CFS Seaford Response
19:30:39 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36 CFS Virginia Response
19:33:56 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 43 MFS Glen Osmond 441
19:37:09 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 41 MFS Paradise 221 Response

19:45:52 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC076 14/09/09 19:46,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,LIONEL AV,BLAIR ATHOL MAP 94 C 13,CATERING FOR SAPOL,KILBURN OVAL,FOOTY CL,UB.TEA COFFEE,FACEMASKS,ENF020 SES Enfield Response

19:46:27 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 14/09/09 19:47,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RAPID 969 293 BOUNDARY DR,CAREY GULLY MAP 134 K 9 TG126,BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL ASSIST LANDOWNER,SAIR55 CARY00 CFS Carey Gully Response

19:59:05 14-09-09 MFS: 6th + alarm PGS Plastics granular, 14/09/2009 8:01:00 PM MFS Car 31

20:44:35 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Eden Hills Response
20:52:07 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 45 MFS Glen Osmond 441
21:06:24 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 MFS Paradise

21:14:28 14-09-09 TASK COMPLETED CREW STANDING DOWN REGARDS <name> SES Enfield Info

21:16:15 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 28 LARGS NORTH CONTACT COMMS WHEN MOBILE CFS Burnside Response
1930429 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 28 LARGS NORTH CONTACT COMMS WHEN MOBILE MFS Beulah Park 211 Response

piriejono · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:39:24 PM »

Reports of people lighting more fires near this one. idiots come to my mind.

2468 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:39:47 PM »

Any more news? They granulate plastics and have a 4 hectare plastics store!!! Dangerous... Can be smelt at Lonsdale and Gawler!

bajdas · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:55:26 PM »

From http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS60900.shtml

Dir Speed(km/h) Gust(km/h)
Adelaide 14/08:15pm SE 6 7
Adelaide Airport 14/08:15pm S 11 11
Edinburgh 14/08:15pm S 7 7

Adelaide 14/08:45pm E 0 0
Adelaide Airport 14/08:45pm SE 7 9
Edinburgh 14/08:45pm S 2 4

2468 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:00:57 PM »

On Site now...

fire is confined to plastics and fuel store in large yard.

Onsite fire teams fought fire back from fuel tanks and plant using fire extinguishers and hose... Trained very very well!

bajdas · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:27:12 PM »

Another round of COQ's

21:33:26 14-09-09 FYI - change of quarters request for several brigades coming through shortly, crews will need to be available until approx 0600hrs. From DSC <name> CFS Heysen Group Info; CFS Onkaparinga Group Info; CFS Lofty Group Info

21:21:52 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 35 MFS GAWLER CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Williamstown Response
21:22:28 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 MFS SALISBURY CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Tea Tree Gully Response

21:22:45 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 14/09/09 21:23,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CORMACK RD,WINGFIELD MAP 92 P 6 TG182,WEST OF CHURCHILL RD NORTH MEET HOOK,TRUCK TO ASSIST UNLOADING,BURN19 CFS Burnside Response

21:24:58 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 43 MFS CHRISTIE DOWNS CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Aldinga Response
21:26:58 TEA TREE GULLY 24 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 MFS GOLDEN GROVE CONTACT MFS COMMS ON GRN 150 ON ARRIVAL CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
21:32:26 BALHANNAH CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFS Oakbank/Balhannah Response
21:33:11 BRIDGEWATER CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Bridgewater Response
21:35:03 ALDGATE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Aldgate Response
21:35:35 MT BARKER CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Mount Barker Response
21:33:11 BRIDGEWATER CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Bridgewater Response
21:35:03 ALDGATE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Aldgate Response
21:35:35 MT BARKER CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Mount Barker Response
21:39:15 NAIRNE CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 20 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE P2 CFSRES CFS Nairne Response
21:42:45 SALISBURY 24 CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 37, JOHNS RD PROSPECT P2 CFSRES CFS Salisbury Response

22:00:56 14-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 14/09/09 22:02,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,INWOOD AV,KILBURN MAP 93 P 11 TG182,PRIORITY 2 CREW CHANGEOVER REPORT TO 209,0 ON ARRIVAL,CDN439 GAW359

22:20:20 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 21 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response

Firefrog · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:36:23 PM »

largest round of CoQ I can remember. Big night!

Amazing that CFS are CoQ in a very large number of SAMFS stations. Plus several CFS crews at the job!

Difficult night for comms to manage, doing a good job!

bajdas · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:58:41 PM »

From: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26071773-5006301,00.html

Youth held as fire engulfs Kilburn plastics factory

September 14, 2009 06:10pm

..DEVELOPING: ONE youth has been apprehended and houses around a Kilburn plastics factory have been evacuated after a disastrous fire took hold tonight.

Police have allegedly apprehended a youth over the incident.

A 1km air exclusion zone is in place above the fire.

At least 88 firefighters are on the scene, working in three seperate sectors.

The MFS is working with Port Adelaide Enfield Council to relay water from the council depot.

The fire is well advanced, burning plastic pallets inside the factory.

Two Environmental Protection officers are filming the toxic fumes, which are blowing in a northeasterly direction.

It was believed the fire started in two metal containers containing plastics for reycyling.

Concerns about toxic fumes blowing east towards Prospect Rd prompted police to start clearing the area about 7.20pm.

Shortly before 7.15pm, three explosions were heard from the fire.

The fire is threatening to take hold in hundreds of bales of recycled plastic and is also threatening a LPG tank nearby.

Fifteen houses near the factory have been evacuated, but no one has been injured so far.

The huge blaze is causing traffic chaos in the inner-northern suburbs, with traffic jams on Prospect, Kilburn and Grand Junction roads and several crashes.

The fire started in Plastics Granulating Services, on Inwood Ave, about 5.50pm, sending a thick plume of black smoke across the northern suburbs.

A witness said one of the factory's workers saw three youths with skateboards jumping a rear fence and fleeing moment after the fire started.

Up to 30 MFS appliances are battling the blaze, however they are reporting serious problems with water supply.

Flames about 40m high are burning into the sky, and the base of the fire is at least 40m wide.

The fire is right next to Housing Trust homes and any residents who have not been evacuated are advised to stay indoors with their windows closed.

Meanwhile, two MFS appliances battled a kiln fire in a factory in Camden Park.

It's believed the fire started in timber resin in a factory on Mooringie Ave about 7pm.

Darren · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2009, 12:03:19 AM »

Some strange COQ's happening. All they need to do is look in the SOP's and it tells them who to send where, just backfill those stations with other CFS, rather than sending people totally unfamiliar with how MFS operate...eg Hermitage.

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #12 on:** September 15, 2009, 12:07:16 AM »

must be the shiny new truck thing lol

tft · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:02:17 PM »

Yes, some real strange calls about appliances last night.
Had to laugh when they needed more pumpers and what they got.

Darren · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:17:29 PM »

Well there is only 6 pumpers within coooeeeee of the city if you go as far as Mt Barker, 1 of them was tied up at a going house fire, Happy Valley, and I think Eden Hills were at a fire at Camden Park. Which doesn't leave much ! The only actual pumper that attended the fire was Burnside.

So from what I can work out, the fire didn't involve the structure, it was about a billion old plastic coke bottles ? Nice effect, all those 10c coins wasted haha

Zippy · « **Reply #15 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:32:14 PM »

keenly awaiting MFS & CFS's Review of this incident

Simply cos a 7th Alarm hasnt existed till now...

A few broken pumps as well...

Firefrog · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:30:20 PM »

At those who may think about being picky.......let's refrain from picking things to pieces!
Talk through things but don't assume you know how things did or did not get done. Or that you know better than those making decisions last night. Decisions are made in the pressure cooker of a large job. Please don't be an arm chair AIIMS consultant who thinks they know more than those who actually ran the job.

There was certainly a lot of resource required and many CFS brigades had their first run at CoQ. No problem with that.

Certainly tested the states ability to handle a normal workload and provide resource for a large job.

Be good to hear from anyone at the job or those that did a CoQ and ran to SAMFS jobs.....

Darcyq · « **Reply #17 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:08:19 PM »

On the drive down the hill we were tiring to workout the last time a Bridgewater appliance had parked in Stn 20 on COQ, we believe it would have been around the early 1980's and that time we were driving and "Acco".

Certainly was interesting to spend some time looking at how the other side operate. At around 0100, we along with Barker and Aldgate were responded to the Kilburn fire, reading some of the comments here, it really didn't make a difference as to what type of appliance you were on as long as it carried BA and you had operators available. Our trucks were only used for transport.

We were tasked with dealing with any hot-spots amongst piles of molten plastic, working off Blackwood CAFS that was being fed water from Angle Park.

Overall an interesting but tiring experience. Cheers

2468 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:19:06 PM »

The fire was all out at mid-day. Only one shipping container left smoldering. Fire did not touch any building just blackened the walls in some spots. The clean will start tonight and be finished by friday night.

Woodville skyjet was cleaning up spots most of day.

Would be interesting to see what fire systems are installed after this... ie more hydrants, fire team training.

It was a LPG tank that was threatened which is being replaced overnight due to heat cracks that happened dueing day. The factory stayed operational in the Inwood avenue section all night and the Blackburn st section as well with 1 plants spacing and fog nozzles on walls to keep internal cool.

The Company only lost small amounts in the yard which was very small section of the total yard!

bittenyakka · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:21:53 PM »

so if the whole yard went up?

2468 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:30:27 PM »

And reached the 40 tonne forklift, trucks, granulated plastics, shreaded plastics and jumped the fence into any of the neighbouring businesses? or got into the plant...

The whole area would be still on fire and the retained would be called in... We got away very luckily... the yard goes a long way into the site. Luckily the petrol bulk tank was empty, and the silos drained via vacumn to another silo at the other end of site...

SO what do you think they need? Lack of water so boosters? Hydrants? Wheeled units? maybe even their own truck in a static position?

Thoughts?

Darren · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2009, 08:07:09 PM »

Same issue happens every job out there, only about a 2nd alarm worth needed for the fire, but the water supply out there is shocking to say the least, so lots of relays and boosting needed. As daft as it sounds, MFS could do with a decent size tanker.

crashndash · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:03:14 PM »

i can think of about 70,000lts sitting withing 15 or 20 mins of there.....did they ask for as much as they could get?

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #23 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:11:25 PM »

It was a good night, thought the comms operator on 150 was very professional, particularly when dealing with some CFS brigades not so used to talking to adelaide fire for more than 2 words. . .

Got back to station a little after midnight, what time did the guys get back who went to the job from 20?

Chinny · « **Reply #24 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:06:42 PM »

Athelstone 34P left at 19:30 and was tasked with fighting the fire and cooling then around 22:30 we changed over with fresh BA crews who where tasked to pull out most the hose then put out hot spots and a container going strong.

As we were thinking of going home we got called to take over from 451 pumping relay to the skyjet which was interesting.

Athelstone was back in station at 4:00am

Author Topic: Kilburn plastics fire (Read 30992 times)

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