Group positions

[rescue5271]

As most of you know its always hard to get people to take on a group position in the area of Group officer or a DGO  how would it be that we follow the CFA where by a officer of a brigade can hold the group rank of group officer or DGO and also hold a brigade officer position. I know first hand that in CFA it works well and has done for year's and in the country where there are less members it sure would work well if it was able to be given ago in one group to see if it worked here in SA...

[Pipster]

There's not enough time in the day to do one job, let alone doing two!!!   

Pip

[Zippy]

I think the Group Officer positions could be dissolved,   instead favouring for:  Brigade Captains and Brigade Duty Officers (typically a Yellow hat) to assume the role of a Red Hat when required.  So say if you have 5 Brigades...you have 10 possible people who can run as a Group Officer...When Required.  (to Assume IC, Ops, Div Comm, Sector Command positions during jobs).

A group duty officer could be run very much like the DSC state position. He would have the Main group car.  and at any time the duty officer role would change while BC's and BDO's would get notified.

Any further group cars could then be strategically placed through out groups, in stations, to have a driver send the car to the job....change over the crew leader of a specific appliance, so that the "group officer" can run his on-scene role from a command vehicle.


***this is only a rough idea of an idea

[jaff]

I think the Group Officer positions could be dissolved,   instead favouring for:  Brigade Captains and Brigade Duty Officers (typically a Yellow hat) to assume the role of a Red Hat when required.  So say if you have 5 Brigades...you have 10 possible people who can run as a Group Officer...When Required.  (to Assume IC, Ops, Div Comm, Sector Command positions during jobs).

A group duty officer could be run very much like the DSC state position. He would have the Main group car.  and at any time the duty officer role would change while BC's and BDO's would get notified.

Any further group cars could then be strategically placed through out groups, in stations, to have a driver send the car to the job....change over the crew leader of a specific appliance, so that the "group officer" can run his on-scene role from a command vehicle.


***this is only a rough idea of an idea

So 450ish brigades across the state, 2 officers from each = 900ish potential "group officers"

900 personel to do div com training

900 personel to do AIMS

900 personel to do etc etc etc

And you rekon you have trouble getting on a course now!

Cheers Jaff

[bittenyakka]

Group officers have a role both operationally and administratively that they fill.
Two reasons they shouldn't hold positions in brigades at the same time other than FF is. A they already have to much work.
and there could be serious power imbalances (more than there might already be)

[Darren]

The difference with CFA is they have a lot more BASO's to take care of the paperwork, the GO role is redundant excecpt strike teams and large fire, so they can be 2 hatters wearing the GO helmet only when operational.