Author Topic: Paging regular sitreps (Read 15420 times)

mack · « **on:** February 24, 2008, 10:27:05 AM »

11:23:32 24-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 24/02/08 11:22,RESPOND RCR,BAROSSA VALLEY RD,ROWLAND FLAT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,500MTS SOUTH OF ROWLAND FLAT,NTPA19 LYND00

11:26:49 24-02-08 LYNDOCH STATION OPEN TO ATTEND RCR ROWLAND FLAT. JACQUE

11:29:27 24-02-08 LYNDOCH 14 RESPONDING TO RCR ROWLAND FLAT. JACQUE LYNDOCH STATION.

11:37:17 24-02-08 LYNDOCH 14 ON SCENE, 1SMALL CAR VS MOTOR BIKE, AT KRAFT CORNER, ROWLAND FLAT. 1 (ONE) INJURED PERSON JACQUE - LYNDOCH STATION.

well.... it makes me laugh every time. hang on is this the ammusing or interesting thread?

mack · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:24:04 AM »

this is beyond a joke surely???

11:58:34 24-02-08 Casualty has left the scene, Rd still close. rd to stay close until tow truck has removed vehicles involved. Lyndoch station

12:17:25 24-02-08 CAR AND BIKE BEING LOADED ONTO TOW TRUCK. ROAD TO OPEN IN APPROX 5 - 10 MINUTES. LYNDOCH

12:35:35 24-02-08 BAROSSA VALLEY HIGHWAYIS NOW OPEN. LYNDOCH 14 & 34 ARE RETURNING TO LYNDOCH STATION. JACQUE. - LYNDOCH STATION.24/02/2008 12:35:18 PM

12:41:52 24-02-08 LYNDOCH 14 & HAS RETURNED TO LYNDOCH STATION FROM RCR, ROWLAND FLAT. JACQUE. - LYNDOCH STATION.

12:42:59 24-02-08 LYNDOCH 34 HAS RETURNED TO LYNDOCH STATION FROM RCR, ROWLAND FLAT. JACQUE. - LYNDOCH STATION. 24/02/2008 12:42:42 PM

8 info messages about 1 incident seems excessive? Anyone from the group on here? is it some kind of group SOP? surely sending sitreps back on radio nad logging them is enough, then a simple message when the incident is completed or if there is essential information for crews/group...

pumprescue · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:31:06 AM »

Thats just stupid, they do realise it costs, and you guys gave Happy valley a hard time, think this bets a single stop call message !!

rescue5271 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:44:04 AM »

Time some group's and brigade's where made aware of the costing and also the fact you dont need to send so many filtered message's out about a job if the crew is not at the job why keep up dating unless you need more crew?

chook · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:50:11 AM »

Stop call page ok - this is just BS!

Footy · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2008, 01:43:08 PM »

Quote from: pumprescue on February 24, 2008, 11:31:06 AM

Thats just stupid, they do realise it costs, and you guys gave Happy valley a hard time, think this bets a single stop call message !!

cost to send a page?

rescue5271 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:17:03 PM »

Yes Footy we have to pay for the use of the GRN pagers every time we send out a message nothing is free.....

Katrina · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:22:00 PM »

I was watching those pages come through and couldn't believe it just kept going and going. Trying to think what they would do to me if I kept sending page after page through updating all of those who didn't attend an incident. The end result I would imagine would be more people wanting to turn their pagers off so that they didn't have to put up with all of this nonsence

Jono · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:53:08 PM »

wow, thats absolutely ridiculous.

6739264 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:58:33 PM »

Just think if they were updating you for an *actual* job. Bugger watching the news just watch the scanner.

"CFS: They are laynig out hose now"

"CFS: Lines are charged"

etc etc

Footy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:44:49 AM »

haha that would be hilarious

David · « **Reply #11 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:45:26 AM »

I am part of the Barossa group that includes Lyndoch. I am not aware of any SOP detailing this amount of info needing to be sent out. I understand the only messages required are for extra crew, stop calls and the occasional update for large incidents. This last one aids in giving people an idea if they need to be going to the station when they finish work or if everything is under control.

It is protocol to advise GO's and DGO's of appliance returns.

We do notice it alot with Lyndoch thou, maybe they just enjoy the sounds of the pager to much

safireservice · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2008, 11:44:20 AM »

JUST A REMINDER OF THE LYNDOCH CFS MANAGEMENT MEETING TONIGHT AT 19:30 HRS AT THE XXXXXXX RESIDENCE. THANKYOU XXXXXX XXXX XXX XXX. 3/03/2008 12:53:29 PM CFS Lyndoch Response
So.......can we expect regular paging messages on how the meeting is progressing?

wilma · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2008, 02:22:38 PM »

Suggest you look at what the job is before you start to pick on my Group and the circumstances behind it

rescue5271 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2008, 02:53:39 PM »

They are not the only brigade or group that does it,I guess in the end the group may say something when they get an account for all the messages going out....

mack · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2008, 03:27:04 PM »

Quote from: wilma on March 03, 2008, 02:22:38 PM

Suggest you look at what the job is before you start to pick on my Group and the circumstances behind it

single car versus a motorbike, one injury... not much of a job really.

worth noting for your interest Wilma, i did not start this as a seperate thread to bag your brigade, was merely posted in the interesting pager messages thread, moved by mods.

chook · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2008, 03:50:54 PM »

Wilma, sorry to point this out but out of all of the services that use paging - yours is one of the few to give sitreps by pager.
Its the same as other units/ brigades sending "I'm not turning up" pages or "I'm going to be there in 30 minutes" or "I'm going to blah blah" Hasn't people heard of availability boards & SMS?
Now personally is it a big deal? - No
Does it cost the services more? - Yes
Is it necessary? - No thats what phones and debriefs are for.
Do I really give a toss? - No I'm not the one who looks unprofessional.
Not sure about your service but ours not only the unit gets our pager messages (I was surprised who does) & I would be very angry if I was in a meeting or conducting training with my pager going off every 5 minutes!
Anyway horses for courses (I'm sure thats not right

)
cheers

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:02:57 PM »

Wilma, no matter what circumstance surround *that* job, I also cannot see the need for so many info messages. (& would say the same comment in regards to any brigade or group, definately not *just* picking on yours)..

FYI - Those messages cost $$ everytime they are sent. .. - 1 minute between the two messages informing that each individual appliance had returned IS excessive.. One message advising both had returned would have been ample.

Could have had one message say *Stop call: Car vs M/Bike, highway now re-opened, appliances returned to station* ..

Constructive criticism.. Im sure if your pager beeps 7 times less for everyjob, surely some people will be happier?

wilma · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:09:07 PM »

I agree with your points and it Sounds like we need to look in to it but try to teach an old dog new tricks see how we go

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2008, 04:15:47 PM »

Quote from: wilma on March 03, 2008, 04:09:07 PM

but try to teach an old dog new tricks see how we go

I know what you mean..

rescue5271 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:01:41 PM »

Bring it up at a group meeting and see what they say when you say its going to cost the group more $$$$$$

RescueHazmat · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:04:49 PM »

I think it costs CFS as a whole (SAFECOM), not the individual station or group budget.. - Anyone to confirm?

Zippy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:08:00 PM »

I think it costs the SA government directly...is it Motorola who charge the government??

Knackers · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:36:03 PM »

Motorola make the gear. The network that is used is Telstra. Through some contract with SA Gov. Not sure of costs thoug, someone on this forum said 25c per page.

Zippy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2008, 05:45:14 PM »

Quote from: Knackers on March 03, 2008, 05:36:03 PM

Motorola make the gear. The network that is used is Telstra. Through some contract with SA Gov. Not sure of costs thoug, someone on this forum said 25c per page.

Ah yes Telstra...completely forgot about them

If its Telstra...no wonder SA government has no spare money for infrastructure

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