CFS COQ to CFS

[bittenyakka]

I have noticed more and more that CFS are doing COQ into other brigades stations is there any reason for this or is it only hen there are large incidents eg brown hill creek and hence lots of appliance stripped from an area.

also what warrants a COQ is there an average no of calls that the station must do because it could be very boring doing a COQ in some stations.

[SA Firey]

Different groups have different policy...only we tend to do more COQ to everyone elses stations than they do ours...MFS included

[rescue5271]

Would be nice if some brigade's where aware of what is a COQ!!!!

[Alan J]

I have noticed more and more that CFS are doing COQ into other brigades stations is there any reason for this or is it only hen there are large incidents eg brown hill creek and hence lots of appliance stripped from an area.

also what warrants a COQ is there an average no of calls that the station must do because it could be very boring doing a COQ in some stations.

Logically, CoQ would be happening based on risk & consequences rather than number of calls, although call numbers would factor into it.  For CFS it is a mix of group, region and HQ preplanned triggers to request CoQ move-ups.  No plan likely = no CoQ request unless the next layer up calls for it.  I speculate that for MFS it would be HQ pre-planning only?

 

[bittenyakka]

well what do you satisfy as enough risk? (how long is a piece of string) 

[Alan J]

well what do you satisfy as enough risk? (how long is a piece of string) 

Probably the only place that risks are assigned fixed values is in an SFEC. (That's more about how much money the CFS will spend in an area than anything else.)

Captains, Groupies & RO's are supposed to keep across the dynamic operational stuff in their areas - the variable factors like beginning & end of school holidays, weather, travel times, crew availability, gut feeling, etc. Then they decide how long their particular piece of string is on a given time & day.  If it comes up short, they negotiate CoQ with the next layer up.  They might get it, they might not.  Depends on what else is happening, how good a case they can present, & how far up the food-chain it has to go for approval.  Or at least, that's how the books of words indicate it is supposed to work.

Is that a long-winded enough non-answer ?   

[bittenyakka]

it helps

[Alan (Big Al)]

If our whole group is committed to a job, we are able to get Victor Harbour 711 to come over and cover our's and surrounding brigades patches from our station. We've had Aldgate do one to us last year except they got here and went home again as we were able to release our 24P back to station.

[rescue5271]

I tryed to get a brigade to do a COQ 18months ago they said you can have the applaince but you have to mann it...hello the whole group was at a job and we dont have mann power spare...Down here we have to make sure that if we are doing a COQ into Naracoorte that we get a brigade that is RCR/CABA/HAZMAT so we dont have to many to pick from.....

[mattb]

The Mawson group and Region One have identified Morphet Vale as a strategic station, therefore if Morphett Vale and a neighbouring station (Happy Valley or Seaford) are empty a COQ will be arranged.

This will initially come from within the group but if we have a full group response incident it will come from elsewhere. If the whole group is committed an appliance will also be requested for COQ to Kangarilla to look after that side of the group.

Most recent COQ in our group was Happy Valley to Morphett Vale during the Seaford clan lab explosion, the boys then got a run to a domestic fire at Noarlunga Downs.

[pumprescue]

Makes sense, Morphett Vale station would enable you to go either way, but I still don't see why all 3 of those stations don't deserve a change of quarters, for that matter why any station doesn't need a COQ. I guess the more calls the more likelyhood of needing a COQ, after all, people expect a fire station to have a truck in it, and where possible that should happen.