Author Topic: Helmet Camera (Read 67931 times)

F.B.R.T · « **Reply #50 on:** January 09, 2008, 10:34:39 PM »

I think "Zippy" has put in the most sensible post so far!
If the footage taken from a camera is being used for internal Fire Service use only,(e.g. training or record keeping) then really, where is the issue?

I don't agree with footage from incidents going on Youtube or being supplied to the media, UNLESS sanctioned by the Fire Service as public interest or whatever.

Also, if a member of another service has an issue and politely asks that they not be recorded, then turn it off!(no big deal really)
I know that most reasonable Emergency Service personnel I work with from other agencies wouldn't have an issue, as you can be very easily filmed at incidents by media agencies anyhow!

I wonder sometimes if those that have a big issue with being filmed, lack confidence in doing their job correctly or are worried about being seen in the wrong P.P.E. etc.
Do the right thing, and there won't be an issue, and if you make a stuff up then at least you have something to watch and learn from.(remember...TRAINING USE)

Cheers, Mat

SA Firey · « **Reply #51 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:01:29 PM »

Any photos taken by a CFS Member are subject to CFS SOP 12.2

Now unless your brigade allows you to take photos on your personal camera, you cant release it to a third party without CEO consent.

Jono · « **Reply #52 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:07:51 PM »

Quote from: Zippy on January 09, 2008, 12:32:36 PM

I would believe the people who are wanting to use these camera's only want to use them for internal brigade use for training purposes and debriefs of some sort.

Agreed.

Quote from: boredmatrix on January 09, 2008, 12:26:03 PM

Quote from: mack on January 09, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
well this thread certainly turned into a bit of a joke....

.....and some of you CFS volunteers seem to have issues relating to not being taken seriously as professionals!! turn it up!!

Dude, you've lost the plot.

boredmatrix · « **Reply #53 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:13:24 PM »

fair call re: use for training - as long as thats what happens with it. At the end of the day - who can stop someone putting something on youtube??

we all know how it works with government agencies - no-one will have an issue with it until it gets used as evidence because someone dumps some pics or video into the public domain! it only takes one disgruntled journalist to blow something out of context! take Channel 7 for example - who up until 12 months ago had a massive vendetta against SAPOL - reporting anything and everything negative they could aim a camera at.

on that happy note - I leave my last post on this thread.......

- wanna look like a t@sser? - attach a camera to your head and go to work!

Smokeydk · « **Reply #54 on:** January 10, 2008, 07:48:58 AM »

As stated every Brigade takes pics at sceens.after all if its stopped.then what would Promotions Unit Photo Gallery have to post

Also stated..what is filmed is the main question...I for one wouldnt like to see closeups of MVAs..as other countrys view on TV News reports.

Common sence is the call of the day..use it for good or abuse it, its your call.

Evac · « **Reply #55 on:** January 13, 2008, 01:33:46 PM »

An interesting area. I used a voice recorder at any incidents i attended as a member of an IMT for my own personal Rs covering. I also took my own notes. I burnt the recording to a CD and filed it. The advise i was given with this was that i could use it for my own personal use, to make extra notes from etc, but it would not be admissable in court unless i specifically stated to a person whom i may interview or discuss plans with was informed of the fact the discussion was being recorded. It was interesting listening back to the incident and being able to review the decisions made and how i performed and how i could do better next time. So if this was the intention of a helmet cam i think it is a great idea if used appropriatley.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:18:51 PM »

So when are we going to see some action from this camera??

Jono · « **Reply #57 on:** January 14, 2008, 04:36:08 PM »

Quote from: rescue5271 on January 14, 2008, 03:18:51 PM

So when are we going to see some action from this camera??

When I make it to a job :p

6739264 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 15, 2008, 08:24:54 AM »

Quote from: Jono on January 14, 2008, 04:36:08 PM

Quote from: rescue5271 on January 14, 2008, 03:18:51 PM
So when are we going to see some action from this camera??

When I make it to a job :p

I'm not saying a thing

jaff · « **Reply #59 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:18:43 AM »

Well Jono ,were waiting -------,maybe some footage, as you drag a hapless victim to safety from a fully involved structure or maybe knockdown of a raging firefront or a stop call because the paid staff got there first, whatever wheres the footage !!

Cheers Jaff

6739264 · « **Reply #60 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:21:37 AM »

How about time lapse footage of the shrinking primary response area?

jaff · « **Reply #61 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:44:24 AM »

Ouch!!

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #62 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:24:42 PM »

Quote from: 6739264 on February 03, 2008, 08:21:37 AM

How about time lapse footage of the shrinking primary response area?

Isn't time lapse usually used for things that are happening slowly?

Zippy · « **Reply #63 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:33:13 PM »

Tick Tock

nah guys... 696866845(keyboard bash guy) time to be fair mate.

jaff · « **Reply #64 on:** February 17, 2008, 09:31:45 AM »

Jono are you guys on strike? Has the camera broken already? Have you missed The Truck every time its rolled? Have you lost the instuction manual? ............
.......Where is the footage from this much talked about camera?

Cheers Jaff

6739264 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 17, 2008, 10:12:49 AM »

Something about Seafood not having much of a primary response area and not getting to any jobs before MFS may have *something* to do with it...

chook · « **Reply #66 on:** February 17, 2008, 10:23:10 AM »

You guys are so cruel

Katrina · « **Reply #67 on:** February 17, 2008, 10:28:20 AM »

Is there anyone else whose head we can strap it to?
Dying to see what some of the footage would look like at an actual incident with plenty of movement etc

6739264 · « **Reply #68 on:** February 17, 2008, 10:55:00 AM »

Go look on Youtube Davi. There is plenty of vision from decent jobs that involve the beast. Probably going to be better than most of the jobs we get over here anyway

boredmatrix · « **Reply #69 on:** February 17, 2008, 09:13:01 PM »

Quote from: bajdas on January 08, 2008, 05:18:19 PM

Quote from: mack on January 08, 2008, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: RescueHazmat on January 08, 2008, 04:29:54 PM
IC/Manager would definately have that power mate. - Some people might not like to be filmed (meaning members of other agencies).. It could be quite intimidating / 'off putting' to try and do your job with a camera lens in your face..
well.... actually, an ambo (of any rank) would not have the power to 'order' you (a firefighter) to turn it off, or remove it. Im sure if they asked nicely though

Would be interesting if you filmed a SAPOL STAR squad officer at a land search tasking...from my limited knowledge they do not like their faces in pictures.

no -an ambo couldn't legally tell you to turn it off, but if it got knocked and broken - I don't know if you'd have any recourse!!

as for starry's - probably same boat as the Spooks that were floating around when Mercury 05 was on!

Jono · « **Reply #70 on:** February 17, 2008, 10:15:47 PM »

I have got footage, works really well. I have just been advised not make it publicly available on SA firefighter.

Pull ya head in numbers.

jaff · « **Reply #71 on:** February 17, 2008, 11:43:33 PM »

Film night at jono's wooohooo

mack · « **Reply #72 on:** February 18, 2008, 06:25:27 AM »

Quote from: Jono on February 17, 2008, 10:15:47 PM

I have got footage, works really well.

same here, has been used to good effect at a few jobs including Brown Hill creek.

after the amount of carry on from some people on here, its ammusing to see the interest in getting Jono to post footage online....

6739264 · « **Reply #73 on:** February 18, 2008, 09:42:20 AM »

*hug* Jono, its ok champ.

Footy · « **Reply #74 on:** February 18, 2008, 07:33:42 PM »

so have you taken the camera on any extra curricula excursions yet??
haha, we definitley dont want those on SAFF...
lol