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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2150 on: November 09, 2009, 03:35:02 PM »
1909195 16:48:18 09-11-09 RCR CREW REQUIRED CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO HAMLEY BRIDGE STATION. PLEASE ATTEND STATION IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE NOW. CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info

Just curious, if a 24 is required for a fire some distance away would it not be better if Hamley is just overlooked and another brigade from slightly further out sent, instead of them responding and leaving their area uncovered for RCR, and a COQ needed.
Would seem the sensible route surely, or get them a 2nd 24?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2151 on: November 09, 2009, 04:18:42 PM »
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on November 09, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
1909195 16:48:18 09-11-09 RCR CREW REQUIRED CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO HAMLEY BRIDGE STATION. PLEASE ATTEND STATION IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE NOW. CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info

Just curious, if a 24 is required for a fire some distance away would it not be better if Hamley is just overlooked and another brigade from slightly further out sent, instead of them responding and leaving their area uncovered for RCR, and a COQ needed.
Would seem the sensible route surely, or get them a 2nd 24?


it would have made more sence to get dalkeith to do to COQ coz you have gawler 359 elizabeth 339 and 331 and virginia to cover dalkeith area for RCR  :|
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2152 on: November 09, 2009, 05:14:43 PM »
Quote from: boss on November 09, 2009, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on November 09, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
1909195 16:48:18 09-11-09 RCR CREW REQUIRED CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO HAMLEY BRIDGE STATION. PLEASE ATTEND STATION IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE NOW. CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info

Just curious, if a 24 is required for a fire some distance away would it not be better if Hamley is just overlooked and another brigade from slightly further out sent, instead of them responding and leaving their area uncovered for RCR, and a COQ needed.
Would seem the sensible route surely, or get them a 2nd 24?

it would have made more sence to get dalkeith to do to COQ coz you have gawler 359 elizabeth 339 and 331 and virginia to cover dalkeith area for RCR  :|

as opposed to virginia, 329 & 339 covering salisbury's area?

Al has a decent point, nice to try to strategically over look certain brigadesm but at the same time, the CFS should be doing more backfilling of stations, and sending the closest resources to the fire.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2153 on: November 09, 2009, 09:56:40 PM »
The thing is, you can take away Dalkeith and Salisbury as they are both  in area's that already have rescue coverage. In the case the Hamley Bridge crew are fairly close, so to speak, to the fire, taking either Salisbury or Dalkeith out the system isn't going to affect anything, which kind of brings the point, why not just use those brigades to go to the fire. Having all their trucks out isn't really an issue, but I guess, where do you draw the line. It doesn't affect RCR or urban responses as MFS are going either way, but rural response it does affect.

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2154 on: December 06, 2009, 11:01:44 AM »
1800169 11:12:24 06-12-09 MFS: Call Sign LGS281 changed to OAK302. N MFS Largs North 281
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2155 on: December 06, 2009, 04:42:01 PM »
1908961 14:08:30 06-12-09 FROM THE ADELAIDE AIRPORT, FATHER CHRISTMAS HAS BEEN SIGHTED IN YOUR AREA CFS Sellicks Info

Woo hoo Santa claus is back in town  :-D 8-)
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2156 on: December 09, 2009, 08:04:15 PM »
1908967 20:28:20 09-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 09/12/09 20:27,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,VICTOR HARBOR RD,OLD NOARLUNGA MAP 196 A 15 TG134,RED COROLLA,SEAF00 CDN431 MCLV00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response

4 Appliances???

Can't of been too bad as it was out on arrival
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2157 on: December 09, 2009, 11:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 09, 2009, 08:04:15 PM
1908967 20:28:20 09-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 09/12/09 20:27,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,VICTOR HARBOR RD,OLD NOARLUNGA MAP 196 A 15 TG134,RED COROLLA,SEAF00 CDN431 MCLV00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response

4 Appliances???

Can't of been too bad as it was out on arrival

slow day at the ranch?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2158 on: December 10, 2009, 05:19:52 AM »
Yeah, looks stupid, a 2nd alarm car fire, but thats how they want it, Seaford (or Mawson group) want dual response and MFS don't count CFS due to potential to not turn out....makes for a 2nd alarm car fire, haha
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2159 on: December 10, 2009, 08:12:17 AM »
Those red corollas can make for a huge inferno though...
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2160 on: December 10, 2009, 06:51:39 PM »
I still want to know why we are sending 2 CFS brigades out to a car fire. As far as I can tell, the MFS changed their response to these incidents a couple of years ago and now without any consultation those CFS brigades despatched by BOMS have somehow now also had their response changed.

I know our own brigade response plans, signed off by Region and Group only stipulate one brigade, but now every vehicle fire we respond to is automatically two brigades.

CFS COSO's (2008) state: 1 x App – min Second app. required if no CABA on first

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2161 on: December 10, 2009, 07:29:16 PM »
Quote from: mattb on December 10, 2009, 06:51:39 PM

I know our own brigade response plans, signed off by Region and Group only stipulate one brigade, but now every vehicle fire we respond to is automatically two brigades.


Might be worth speaking with region again Matt then forwarding that info on again? Theres plenty of brigades with BOMS response data that get to go play with themselves [so to speak].
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2162 on: December 11, 2009, 06:34:35 AM »
A car fire is a two appliance responce, this changed a few years ago because of a couple of cars that were on LPG that went bang.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2163 on: December 11, 2009, 10:44:20 AM »
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Might be worth speaking with region again Matt then forwarding that info on again? Theres plenty of brigades with BOMS response data that get to go play with themselves [so to speak].

Thanks mate, there is about to be some significant changes to our response data in BOMS so I will use that as an opportunity to investigate it.

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A car fire is a two appliance responce, this changed a few years ago because of a couple of cars that were on LPG that went bang.

Can you find an SOP to verify that, according to the 2008 CFS COSO's and SOP's it is a single appliance response unless the first appliance is not carrying B.A.

MFS have a different policy.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2164 on: December 11, 2009, 11:08:57 AM »
Yeah matt's right,

1 x App – min.  Second app. required if no CABA on first

BUT...when can we ever guarantee BA operators on the first appliance.


Lack of BA operators trained, equals automatic 2nd alarm Vehicle fire upon 000.... (2nd Alarm Vehicle Fire being a cumulative response of 3 appliances)
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2165 on: December 11, 2009, 03:35:53 PM »
1800180 16:54:51 11-12-09 MFS: SPECIAL MESSAGE: ALL PERSONNEL MUST WEAR SAFETY GLASSES, NOT HELMET VISORS MFS Woodville 249
1800179 16:54:45 11-12-09 MFS: SPECIAL MESSAGE: ALL PERSONNEL MUST WEAR SAFETY GLASSES, NOT HELMET VISORS MFS Woodville 243

1800180 16:52:04 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC065 11/12/09 16:51,RESPOND ALARM 24/046,ACI,625 PORT RD,WEST CROYDON MAP 105 A 11 TG182,FIP NEW GUARD HOUSE ADJACENT TO PUMPS.,,WDV243 WDV249 PPT371 MFS Woodville 249
1800179 16:52:02 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC065 11/12/09 16:51,RESPOND ALARM 24/046,ACI,625 PORT RD,WEST CROYDON MAP 105 A 11 TG182,FIP NEW GUARD HOUSE ADJACENT TO PUMPS.,,WDV243 WDV249 PPT371 MFS Woodville 243
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2166 on: December 11, 2009, 04:51:26 PM »
17:30:23 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 11/12/09 17:28,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NORTH COAST RD,STOKES BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG130,RAPID QAO57535. IAN LARKINS PLACE.,CANDRAVALE? FIRE IN PADDOCK.,SAIR55 WSTD00 CFS KI Group Officers Response

17:40:58 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 11/12/09 17:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NORTH COAST RD,STOKES BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG130,FIRE IN PADDOCK. KANDRAVALE.,RAPID 057535,SAIR55 WISR00 PARN19 CFS KI Group Officers Response

17:56:04 11-12-09 *CFSRES RESPOND GRASS FIRE NORTH COAST- RESPOND WD34-CONTACT CAPTAIN 0428593217 CFS KI Group Officers Response

17:56:25 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 11/12/09 17:55,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NORTH COAST RD,STOKES BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG130,,SAIR55 KNGC00 CFS Kingscote Response

18:12:23 11-12-09 CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 583/ 584, SCRUB FIRE, STOKES BAY, KANGAROO ISLAND 315 DEGREES, 25 KMS FROM WAB, INC: 875917 > 11/12/2009 6:12:17 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response

  :roll: here we go...

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2167 on: December 12, 2009, 09:44:08 AM »
Re the Car fire nothing CFS no SOP for 2 appliance.
I was talking about MFS and LPG car fire.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2168 on: December 14, 2009, 11:21:39 AM »
HAPPY 30TH BIRTHDAY ADAM FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BRIGADE CFS Meningie Info

Happy birthday Adam :lol:
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2169 on: December 15, 2009, 10:04:32 AM »
CHLOE JANE YELLAND, BORN 1AM 15/12/09, 9LB 4OZ. CONGRATULATIONS CAM AND SARAH. CFS Compton Info

Another future Captain is born :-D

Congratulations Camo
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2170 on: December 15, 2009, 11:25:33 AM »
1909800 12:38:16 15-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC031 15/12/09 12:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KIM HOOPERS HOUSE ORROROO ,ORROROO MAP 0 0 0 TG064,AT REQUEST OF R4HQ WITH ORROROO & OTHER,BRIGADES, WEST OF KIM HOOPERS PLACE,SAIR55 BROO00 CFS State Air Desk

And so the battle for South Australia begins  :roll:
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2171 on: December 15, 2009, 12:10:36 PM »
Quote from: SA Firey on December 14, 2009, 11:21:39 AM
HAPPY 30TH BIRTHDAY ADAM FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BRIGADE CFS Meningie Info

Happy birthday Adam :lol:

Thanks.  PS: 30 is the new 20!
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2172 on: December 15, 2009, 12:46:06 PM »
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 563, 564 & SPOTTER 506 RESPOND GRASSFIRE,ARNO BAY, 39 DEGREES, 99 KMS FROM PLAB INC NO 876254 > 15/12/2009 2:05:07 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response

Appliances in attendance

Arno Bay
Butler
Cleve
Port Neill
Rudall District
Wharminda
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2173 on: December 16, 2009, 02:48:10 PM »
1909287 13:09:54 16-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 16/12/09 13:09,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BENAYEO RD, APSLEY NARACOORTE CFS,NARACOORTE MAP 0 0 0 TG227,ASSISTING CFA,REQUEST FROM VIC FIRE,KYBY00 NRCT19 HYNM00 CFS Hynam Response
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« Reply #2174 on: December 17, 2009, 10:52:59 AM »
1800172 11:38:23 17-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 17/12/09 11:38,RESPOND ALARM 40/103,WESTPAC CALL CENTRE,7 LAFFER DR,BEDFORD PARK MAP 153 K 4 TG182,FIP ADJ MAIN ENTRY,,OHH421 ELZ331 MFS O'Halloran Hill 421

1800164 11:18:14 17-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC044 17/12/09 11:17,RESPOND ALARM 48/098,ST PETERS COLLEGE,WYATT ALLEN HOUSE,OFF TRINITY RD,HACKNEY MAP 118 N 6 TG182,FIP LHS MAIN ENTRANCE,,BPK451 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331

331 Clocking up some km's  :-P
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