Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging

[Footy]

The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??

[Zippy]

The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??

ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

[bajdas]

The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??

An alternative is to pickup the telephone in the station or brigade mobile telephone to gain more information, rather than use a GRN talkgroup. Can be quicker to discuss & clarify than 'waiting for over & out'.

[6739264]

ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.

Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

[mack]

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

NO NUMBERS!!!!!!!!


BOMs should have thousands of codes, one for every single possible incident that may occur.....
i can see it now, "respond grey smoke plume" "respond hazy smoke in area" "respond white puffy bits"

sarcasm very much intended.

[bajdas]

ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.

Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

But for a RCR more information can be available than will fit on a single pager message. Even for the 'tree down' jobs we can also have extra information. For example, street access information, contact details, risks (powerlines), etc.

Some taskings no further information is available...

[6739264]

But for a RCR more information can be available than will fit on a single pager message. Even for the 'tree down' jobs we can also have extra information. For example, street access information, contact details, risks (powerlines), etc.

Some taskings no further information is available...

Of course that can be the case. I was just suggesting to Zippy that its quite possible for there to be no more information than is on the page. RCR are a little different, I always make a point of asking if Comms can confirm persons trapped at the very least.

Mack, I'd be a fan of "Dark grey smoke issuing from the combustion of the contents of a room in a domestic dwelling."

[Crownie24]

ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.

Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

Yeah mabye the smoke in area page was always a part of BOMS, I was mistaken (thought BOMS was SOC) tho SOC did page smoke sighting.

[mack]

Yeah mabye the smoke in area page was always a part of BOMS, I was mistaken (thought BOMS was SOC) tho SOC did page smoke sighting.

no problems mate, the old pages from SOCC were typed in airsource. Therefore they were able to put whatever they felt like into the message. Where as BOMs uses pre-determined incident types, which leads to the famoous "Respond TO" for when they dont quite suit.

[CFS_Firey]

...There was even "Tractor Rollover"...in MFS terms thats a MVA...typically MVA's are found on the road, but this rollover occured on a farm...so it could be a "Rescue General" 

MVA = Motor Vehicle Accident.  A tractor is a motor vehicle, an unintentional rollover is an accident.
At no point does MVA = a road job, just as tractor rollover wouldn't mean a farm job, because it could also be on the road...

Incident type is general, the specifics come in the extra information.

[Robert-Robert34]

A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident 

[CFS_Firey]

A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident 

What if it didn't happen on a farm?

[jaff]

A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident 

What if it didn't happen on a farm?

What if the tractor was being transported on the road,on the back of a truck and rolled off the truck ,killing a man that was wearing a "i luv tractors" t shirt?
Would he be a extractorfan ,haha I crack me up oh well he probably sucked anyway.

Cheers Jaff

[Katrina]

I'm with you Jaff!!!!!

[Trav]

I did a search and answered my first Q, what SAIR55 means...
but what does TG182 mean?

[Footy]

TG = Talk Group

it tells the brigades which channels to communicate on.

so TG182 means Talk Group 182

[Jimmy_91]

1919371 18:55:18 19-02-08 MFS: CFSRES: PINNAROO RESPOND MVA, TRUCK TRAILER ROLLOVER, LOXTON RD, APPROX 15 KM FROM PINNAROO, SHEEP ON ROAD 19/02/2008 6:55:08 PM CFS Pinnaroo Response

     How come it was like this???

30 seconds down the track, it comes like this

1919371 18:55:46 19-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC088 19/02/08 18:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,LOXTON ,LOXTON MAP 0 0 0 TG193,12K NORTH OF PINAROO DRIVER OUT - SHEEP,ON RD.,PINN19 CFS Pinnaroo Response

[Footy]

The first page looks incomplete, doesnt have incident number, doesnt have talk group and doesnt have name of appliance responding?

comms may have done first one, then had to edit cos not complete,
or 1 may have come from adelaide fire and the other from group??

[Zippy]

That would have been two different Comm's operators not knowing what eachother was doing.

and my bet is the AIRSOURCE page was done by a Ex CFS OCO ...somewhere in our audience

Remember...URGMSG activates our fire sirens, and it seems only a few operators know that

[Footy]

yeah i didnt know that about urgmsg, so your saying it sets of the fire siren at the station? thats cool... lol

What is airsource?

[chook]

Paging software for computers Footy, We don't use it any more as the company does not exist anymore.
We now use Netpro - its good.
cheers

[SA Firey]

17:29:43 21-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 21/02/08 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PARA RD,EVANSTON MAP 33 G 3 TG182,AMBULANCE ON FIRE,GAW359 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

Not another Sprinter

[bajdas]

05:53:45 22-02-08 Millicent SES:Respond to Mount Gambier for tasking. for details contact MTG HQ - Fron <name> SES Wattle Range Response

I know a Gale Warning was issued at 11:25am by the Bureau for that area, but cannot see much else on the pager.

I am guessing that the tasking (or multiple taskings) are being handled all within Mt Gambier via GRN rather than pager.

I hope everything is OK.

[uniden]

Would have been to assist with the MVA clean up from 0020 that morning. Maybe relief crews, was a messy job apparently.

MFS: *CFSRES INC001 22/02/08 00:17,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PENOLA RD,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT MAP 000 0 0 TG226,5KMS PAST AIRPORT TOWARDS TARPEENA,TRUCK OF ROAD NO ENTRAPMENT,WNDL00 MTG029

[backburn]

10:17:39 22-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC020 22/02/08 10:16,RESPOND To,STURT HWY,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,APPROX 30M SPILL OF ANIMAL EFFLUENT CAUS,ING HAZARD OPP KINGSTON ESTATE WINERY,MORK00 CFS Moorook Response



Yuck lucky them