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Future of the SACFS
« on: March 27, 2007, 07:28:51 AM »
What does everyone see as the future of the SACFS.
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2007, 06:47:43 PM »
That's pretty broad is't it? What do you mean - what aspect?

Crystal ball says there will be a massive conflagration to deal with, communities whinging about not enough fuel reduction burning, and communities whinging about risks of out of control fuel reduction burns   :lol:

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2007, 07:33:05 PM »
it will continue in a proud tradition of putting out fires. and saving Cats :-D

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2007, 08:08:21 PM »
I foresee the South Australian Fire Service
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2007, 09:52:04 PM »
I agree with cam,the writting is on the wall for one fire service and I know that we will try and hold on to what we have but I feel this will not be our choice but the governments...
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2007, 05:35:19 PM »
I forsee a SAFECOM entity which combines all existing administration functions (including OH&S, publicity, training, capital expenditure, SACAD, etc) with small operational functions which deal with the incident response.

I believe other emergency volunteer organisations could be part of SAFECOM (like Sea Rescue, Volunteer Coast Guard, etc are now via the Volunteer Marine Rescue).

I am not sure if they will be able to combine the three existing operational functions into the one entity. But this I believe will all depend on how volunteers accept the changes over the next few years.

Look at the current model in Western Australia and Queensland.
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2007, 05:45:21 PM »
Intresting point Bajadas?

Would the SES & CFS/MFS merge?


Put it this way - I wouldnt wanna be doing the SES vollies jobs (except RCR) and they probaly dont wanna be doing mine.  But i guess there is nothing wrong with SES vollies joining the SA Fire & Rescue Service (SAFRS) to continue their current jobs?


Or maybe we pass all tree jobs onto the council and anything deemed a rescue is handled by the fire service?
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2007, 06:00:50 PM »
well as long as there is a vollenteer fire service i'm happy.


Camo: wouldn't it be when yo join the SAFRS you would just tell the captain that you are joining to do traditionally SES jobs and then only go to to those when the pager goes off?

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2007, 04:08:06 PM »
with the way that the newer generations are being brought up and evolving... i cant imagine that there will be too many people vollunteering, so who really knows what will happen...


also... perhaps the SAFES (SA Fire and Emergency Service), providing all services that MFS, CFS & SES currently do... (yes including tree jobs lol)

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2007, 04:19:15 PM »
Maybe the only stations will be ones in towns and will be paid because no one will be willing to volunteer?
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2007, 07:26:47 PM »
hmmm response time might be a bit scheiße house then Camo  :-D

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2007, 08:59:16 PM »
Yeah but what can ya do?  I guess there will be alot more aircraft utilised.
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 09:07:19 PM »
Will save money on sending crews to do train in compartment fire behaviour, they can just study overhaul instead  :-D

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2007, 10:34:36 PM »
Will save money on sending crews to do train in compartment fire behaviour, they can just study overhaul instead  :-D

Surely your not suggesting MFS use too much water on a job :lol:
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2007, 12:05:49 AM »
Would the SES & CFS/MFS merge?


Put it this way - I wouldnt wanna be doing the SES vollies jobs (except RCR) and they probaly dont wanna be doing mine.  But i guess there is nothing wrong with SES vollies joining the SA Fire & Rescue Service (SAFRS) to continue their current jobs?

I think we're likely to have a combined SES/CFS/MFS service (SAFES, SAFRS, whatever) that will be paid, and you'll be going to tree downs whether you like it or not. (That's if you can get a job with them :P)

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2007, 11:57:01 AM »


Surely your not suggesting MFS use too much water on a job :lol:

No more to the point of it would take a long time to get to remote areas therefore there is no need for CFB only overhaul as the house would be gutted before anyone arrived.

But im sure you knew what she was talking about anyway.
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2007, 02:13:19 PM »
Surely your not suggesting MFS use too much water on a job :lol:

No more to the point of it would take a long time to get to remote areas therefore there is no need for CFB only overhaul as the house would be gutted before anyone arrived.

But im sure you knew what she was talking about anyway.

Indeedy Camo. I wasn't thinking about MFS, as they are purely urban so they will only ever expand as populations and cities continue to grow. It's CFS that will have the opportunity to save money on training overhaul only   :-)

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2007, 02:44:43 PM »
Indeedy Camo. I wasn't thinking about MFS, as they are purely urban so they will only ever expand as populations and cities continue to grow. It's CFS that will have the opportunity to save money on training overhaul only   :-)

So who in the rural area will do the  REC in Receo? (i guess the other E could be forgotten if you wanna leave it to burn)

Robots?  :lol:


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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2007, 04:32:18 PM »
Indeedy Camo. I wasn't thinking about MFS, as they are purely urban so they will only ever expand as populations and cities continue to grow. It's CFS that will have the opportunity to save money on training overhaul only   :-)

So who in the rural area will do the  REC in Receo? (i guess the other E could be forgotten if you wanna leave it to burn)

Robots?  :lol:

Got it in one!! A programmed Rescue/Exposures/Containment robot for every rural town from the money saved on training vollies  :lol:

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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2007, 11:36:03 AM »
Indeedy Camo. I wasn't thinking about MFS, as they are purely urban so they will only ever expand as populations and cities continue to grow. It's CFS that will have the opportunity to save money on training overhaul only   :-)

So who in the rural area will do the  REC in Receo? (i guess the other E could be forgotten if you wanna leave it to burn)

Robots?  :lol:

Got it in one!! A programmed Rescue/Exposures/Containment robot for every rural town from the money saved on training vollies  :lol:

Will the robots need PPE :-P
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Re: Future of the SACFS
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2007, 04:05:08 PM »
Will the robots need PPE :-P

Yeh probably PBI Silver  :lol:   watch out they overheat  :lol: