Role of the UFU

[rescue5271]

Jaff, is that not the job of the UFU???

[6739264]

Jaff, is that not the job of the UFU???

Are our career staff part of the UFU?

[rescue5271]

yes numbers they are I am well aware of a number of them that are members of the UFU...

[misterteddy]

i'd be very very suprised Bill if that was the case. There was a specific clause in the UFU membership charter regards NOT including CFS paid staff (or at least there was 12 months ago last time I saw it)

One of the biggest gripes our paid staff have made is that they are so poorly represented by the PSA they feel they will never see any changes on their behalf because they have no numbers within that union

[boredmatrix]

Any highly unionized workforce which is focussed on just one or two specialized workgroups will be inherently, much stronger.

It is for this same  reason the AEA doesn't represent non-public sector paramedical or ambulance staff. 

While yes- it makes life difficult for the paid CFS staff- I don't see how this workgroup would be any more or less represented in the UFU as it is the PSA given that they are such a small group.

[6739264]

Well the staff that I am talking about are in the UFU and work in regional offices..

Just quietly Bill, page 10 of the UFUA Rules would like a quick word, specifically this part:

(e) (12) (4) Any person employed in South Australia:

(a) by the Country Fire Services; or
(b) as technical officer, technical assistant, and caretaker by the South Australian Metropolitan Fire Service

shall not be eligible for membership of the Union.

[rescue5271]

Numbers does this rule apply to CFS staff who have come from another fire brigade interstate where they were full members of the UFU and still pay the union fees here in SA....

[6739264]

Numbers does this rule apply to CFS staff who have come from another fire brigade interstate where they were full members of the UFU and still pay the union fees here in SA....

I think you you'll find that they can certainly continue to pay their fees but I'd not rely on the UFU for backing, considering that they are no longer working for a "Fire Brigade Interstate". If they are on secondment here, that's another thing entirely.

I may be well be wrong, but if that is the case, how can the UFU support a select few employees of SACFS, and not all paid staff?

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[pumprescue]

They certainly don't work for the fire brigade, and they aren't paying fee's to the UFU branch in SA.

Didn't think we had any ex fireman stupid enough to join the CFS paid staff....

The clause is very specific and hasn't changed that I know of.