pbi gold

[mattb]

That is interesting Matt a few months ago you were saying the poster said Pbi could only be worn to structure fires or car fires but can be worn at OIC discretion.

I think the position changed substantially once some of the HQ gurus became involved, their thoughts were that it was paid for and provided to be worn - not sit in a station because it might get dirty.

If it gets dirty send it in for washing, if it gets damaged send it in for repair, don't compromise firefighter safety because of a budgetary concern.

[bittenyakka]

wow that thinking is kinda out of character from what we are used to.

[firey666]

Guys and gals, you work out who you are.

If you have PBI and feel the need to wear it wear it, What are they going to do if you go against a group policy which holds no water at all.

go with the state directive, It is to be used for Structure and can be used fro RCR and limited protection at Hazmat.

In the end its your life not theirs, use that is why they provided it.

[jaff]

If your Truck, Qav, Tanker/BWC or command vehicle doesn't have proper burnover protection, would you feel better wearing PBI gold whilst cowering under your woolen blanket, with adrenaline leaking out your backdoor?
Yeah I know that you wouldn't want to wear it actively fighting scrub fires, just a scenario!

[CFS_Firey]

Why would you have PBI pants and a Nomex coat to some jobs?
Not having a go at anyone, but I can't
work out the logic in doing this.

You're allegedly supposed to carry your structural kit with you at a rural fire, so Lofty Group have suggested that rather than carry 2 sets of gear, you wear your PBI Gold pants, and carry 2 coats.  Most of your body heat is supposedly lost through your upper body anyway, so having heavier pants shouldn't make that much difference heat wise.  (It just looks a bit ...gooberish, as Pixie said).

[Zippy]

Wont look so Gooberish if a Gold version of the Level 1 Turnout coat was created

Since PBI gold can be purchased in 4 components (Coat outer, Coat Liner, Pants Outer, Pants Liner).

The CFS could supply to all volunteers the following:
Coat Outer
Pants Outer

And for BA operators, current situation, but also a Liner-less Coat too.

This would return the CFS to single coloured turnout gear. 


OH SORRY NUMBERS, TOO LOGICAL, MY MISTAKE 

[SA Firey]

That is interesting Matt a few months ago you were saying the poster said Pbi could only be worn to structure fires or car fires but can be worn at OIC discretion.

I think the position changed substantially once some of the HQ gurus became involved, their thoughts were that it was paid for and provided to be worn - not sit in a station because it might get dirty.

If it gets dirty send it in for washing, if it gets damaged send it in for repair, don't compromise firefighter safety because of a budgetary concern.

After all they get our services for free, so if they want that to continue we will wear what is the best protection for us....Thanks

[6739264]

It just looks a bit ...gooberish, as Pixie said).

Wont look so Gooberish if a Gold version of the Level 1 Turnout coat was created

If people have a current L1 Jacket, I don't think it looks too gooberish. The day/night reflective striping is consistant overall. I honestly think it looks worse when you have volunteers in a combo of:

L1 Day Stripe
L1 Night Stripe
L1 Orange-Yellow Coat W/ CFS Coat of arms on the shoulder.
L1 Orange-Yellow overalls
Red/Silver CFS Back Marking
Silver Silouette Back Marking
Silver Italic Silouette Back Marking

Mix that all together for an outfit and your regular volunteer looks far worse than a bloke wearing PBI pants and a L1 Coat.