Victorian Road Crash Arrangements

[chook]

Here is how the Victorians do it.
http://www.justice.vic.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/DOJ+Internet/Home/Community+Safety/Road+Safety/JUSTICE+-+Road+Rescue+Arrangements+Victoria
Takes all of the emotion out of the discussion, has protocols for when non RCR brigades/ units can perform RCR & has a dispute resolution process that is transparent.
Personally I like it! I think we could adopt it here, imagine if you will at audit time, you are a brigade/unit who doesn't meet the standard because of an equipment deficiency. You are isolated as the nearest response is a long way away & you are all the community has for rescue. The audit says in black & white you are short and its not an internal audit so the head organisation is then in a bind. Do they a) supply the equipment or b) admit defeat, not supply the equipment & not provide cover to that community. Wouldn't the pollies love that? What organisation is going to admit they can't provide the service that they are legislatively required to provide?
Now if it is a crew problem, there are several solutions again all transparent.
And if the problem is not fixed then another organisation has every right to form a rescue service. Anyway have a read, as I have said I think it is great and like all good things no doubt could do with some fine tuning.
But at the end of the day it works! So see what you think.
cheers

[6739264]

I'm sure that we could take the Rescue arrangements from most states and apply them here because they 'work'.

Rescue in SA isn't the big filtered that you seem to suggest it is. I understand that the SAMFS station closest to you is listed as RCR, yes only has a small amount of equipment. It doesn't mean that there is a statewide epidemic of under-equipped Rescue resources.

I understand from your other posts that your unit has a large quantity of Hydraulic and ancillary rescue equipment. Thats fantastic. There are plenty of other areas across the state, CFS, MFS and SES that are very well equipped and provide an excellent service to their respective communities. There are also those places around the state that don't quite reach the same level or service. I agree that these areas should be coached and supported to maintain an acceptable level of rescue response.

You continually tell the fire service members on this board to come by your Unit and play with the equipment that you have. How about next time you're down in the big smoke you come past and play with some of the gear we have? I think you'll be surprised and it might, with any luck, shock you out of your apparent opinion that the Fire Service and namely the CFS, merely play at rescue and cannot provide a service to the same level as the 'specialist' SES.

[uniden]

what happenned to the language filter

[chook]

That is a harsh comment & is far from the truth. In fact the reason for this particular thread was to show how another state does it!
And I know of the equipment and other issues around the state as far as SES is concerned - I do travel!
I'm also well aware on the activities of the CFS, I also know what a great job the rescue brigades as well as the other brigades do.
A common thread is a) lack of equipment b) lack of common standards.
I have never said that RCR arrangements were as you described (love that word).
However wouldn't it be nice that when we talk rescue - RCR in particular, we all sing from the same page?
That whether it be a SAMFS, CFS or SES RCR unit that they all meet the same standard in all aspects and if they don't there is a process to fix the problem?
I'm am sorry if you believe this is an attack on the fire services, its not!
If it was decreed tomorrow that the local SAMFS station would be taking our equipment & role personally I don't care! Afterall that was the original plan when I was moved to this unit (well role anyway - equipment to another location)!
So to clarify:-
1) No I don't believe CFS "play" rescue!
2)Yes there are some units/brigades that are struggling & require help!
3)That I don't believe the SES is the be all and end all of rescue! Never have Never will.
4) No its not a "Big cluster" but it could be improved, it it was a "cluster" then there would be more media exposure
Finally if I get the chance, I would love to have a look at a big brigade, can you suggest one?
cheers

[Firefrog]

Play nice.

[Robert-Robert34]

Ding Ding Round 1 Chook vs 6739264 

[chook]

Thanks Robert but its not a wrestling match
cheers