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Dispatch= Timer 1 begins.
Acknowledgement= first arriving member/officer at station. Timer 2 begins.
Mobile= Vehicle has a crew and has left the station. Timer 1/2 ceases.

Exceeding timer= Either Default, RadioCall/PagerMsg sent, or Alerts call.

Time for Port Augusta CFS to exist :P

Using an appliance from stations with two heavy appliances should be on the top of the list for regional composite strike teams. If that is not a smart idea, what is one.

E.g Summertown BWC, Lobethal 34, Stirling 24, Littlehampton 24, Balhannah 34.

Used by crews from ET/Lofty/Heysen/Onka.

With the above, there is still two heavy appliances from either the primary and the nearest back available for each beat.

When it comes to a Light strike team, I guess it goes the otherway around:

Greenhill 14, Carey Gully QRV, Mylor 14, Bradbury 14 with Norton Summit BWC.

18:58:10   10-05-12   FYI, our 34 has been seconded to Wirrabara for upto 3 days, no Greenhill crew are on this deployment, I did not agree with this, capt - CFS Greenhill Info

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Good on him. Stations with 2x heavy trucks were completely overlooked for the cross-crew strategy.

Where's the coverage policy. Where's the regional strike team appliances policy. Where's any strategy at all?

Having ride on a appliance with a spec'ed up siren with stock code3 hardware...i do wish there were two volumes to our sirens ;)  

1. "Cruise control". - confirming to SOP, whilst not causing a needless raquet.
2. "GTFO of our way". - Indefinately confirming to SOP, wanting people with Dubstep ears off the roads.

Having a very loud siren, and a truck doing no better speed than a B-Double going up a hill is sometimes embarassing.

However, there are definately times where the stock CFS siren gear on todays 34P's just plain sucks.

Quote from: 6739264 on February 11, 2012, 05:30:40 PM
How hard is all of this?

Can the CFS grow up and become a real fire service? Lets hope so. Lets use the Alarm Response SOP like we are meant to. If you don't need the resources then just put a stop on them. If you need a specific specialist resource, just call for it. It's not hard.

If people are open and embrace the new system, rather than just trying to smash the old square peg in the new round hole, we might actually move forward. Anyone remember all the crying and sob stories about the wrong trucks being responded to calls in a certain brigades area and people wanting SACAD to fix the issue? Now SACAD IS fixing the issue and consequently it's opened up a number of large glaring holes in people's perfect little empires and people don't like it.

Grow up, and get with the times.

1) If you have a grievance, as has been said before, LODGE THE FORMS. Of course there will be teething problems.

2) If you're trying to do something the "good old way" and it's not working - LEARN how to operate under the new system before you whinge about it. If it's still not working as intended, see point 1.

3) Yes, CFS shot themselves in the foot and are continuing to shoot themselves in the feet and legs by feeding everybody different information. Once the hierarchy sort that mess out, and people put in their grievance forms, we might actually see SACAD working as intended.

4) It's not hard.

Quote from: Zippy on February 08, 2012, 08:11:00 PM
Totally agree with Big Al. Has there ever been the thought of trialing the CFA "Make" system???

Have you thought about working for SACFS HQ? Yep, lets trial an outdated system that is inferior in every way to the Greater Alarm Response Procedure - Sounds like you're perfect HQ material ;)

Haha Mr No.

And no. Would prefer to work for an American fire department and kill myself in a Flash.

You are right, Greater alarm is far more superior, but the business model that unfortunately majority of volunteers have run by is more closer aligned to "Make"...naming specific appliances and/or brigades.  Meanwhile the COSO/SOP handbook is more closer aligned to Greater Alarm.  Right there is two Left hands shaking hands.

Now that we're here, in the now. Looks like some of those groups are doing better. and... "LEARN how to operate under the new system before you whinge about it." is about how perfect a rsponse can be to a whinging volunteer.

There are still some dodgy ones out there nearby...

Totally agree with Big Al. Has there ever been the thought of trialing the CFA "Make" system???

02-02-12 14:42:03    Mundoo Info: As directed by the R1 Commander we are NOT to use K-Codes under any circumstances. Please use correct GRN communication proceedures. Mundoo Group. - CFS Mundoo Group Info

Still waiting for a valid reason (except "its procedure") as to why using codes is a bad idea. They are very easy to learn, and use very intermittently.

Seems like region are promoting lengthy voice transmission.

I know the default answer is, when they retire, but when can we just become one service with MFS...

Definately is a culture thing, and needs to be dismantled by staff.

Starting with GOMPS, they should be removed, and replaced with Beat/ERZ Response plans (Containing data from sacad that is appropriate resource based + extra stuff that is normally seen in todays GOMPS)....Why you say? Group response boundaries are null and void now. Group officers are now pretty much assisting other groups officers when jobs get big (aside from imt/strike teams)...   Groups exist for administrative purposes only.

GCC's are about the only meaningful representative physical component of a group.  If a job lands in any of the associated beats, and it escalates..bam the job is run from the GCC.

MFS: *CFSRES INC0027 29/01/12 22:22 RESPOND FLOODING SALVAGE P1 ROGERS ST/FLINDERS TCE PORT AUGUSTA MAP:PUG 2 K 4,CALLER: ==FROM SAPOL THERE IS A STRONG SMELL OF DEISEL IN THE WATER :PAU20 O SNOTIFY N SNOTIF SDO :

Bit of a EPA issue there..

Round number 2.

Yay consultation with the frontline! Kicking points, not boundarys now!

They'll probably forget to take structural kit..if asset protection/BA is required lol   At least hopefully take a structural helmet and flash hood.

25-01-12 15:44:03    Requiring crew for nightshift at Wilpena tonight please contact Linda 86675204 ASAP if available BA opereators also required as well as fire fighters - CFS Wilmington Info

Organising the next shift within 2-3 hours WELL DONE REGION 4!!!!! Seems like they are on the ball.

and Hahndorf

Coooould be related to the weather forecast.

Definitely agree with you on that one, the fit out is reasonable for a brigade that size.

Starting from scratch will only be wasting valuable members time.

Believe they only in the last 12 months renovated the radio room.

The only perceived tight space is the turnout gear area, which probably could double to allow OHS complaint access and more members.

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IF they end up having a new station...

A morphett vale replica would be pretty suitable, 4 doors, two each end.

Onkaparinga Bulk water carrier might even have a CFS home..

Quote from: Ashes on January 24, 2012, 04:23:53 PM
I don't think the building is the problem for Lobethal....

http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.903427,138.874333&z=19&t=h&nmd=20101001

Yep, its the retiree's/developers living within 20m of the fire siren...

Pretty sure relocation is going to be interesting.


The nearest vacant land is : http://g.co/maps/d5qvk

**SACAD TEST**MFS: *CFSRES INC0098 23/01/12 08:48 RESPOND OPEN DOORS ALARM LEVEL 1 : STATION 4 0 MAP:C/583 54,TG 068, : : *****SACAD TEST ONLY*****

Seems like they are making some progress with the ability to open doors, and the Alarm Level function.

However they still can't get it right, 1ST ALARM :P

MFS: *CFSRES INC0062 12/01/12 17:53 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, STUART HWY NO SUBURB,,TG 073, ==RING COOBER PEDY SAPOL,86725056,120 KM STH,NEAR MIRACARDA TWIN STATION :AIRDESK COOB19 MRLA34 : - CFS Marla Response

MFS:TAKE A STOP FOR CALL 062 ,GLENDAMBO WILL BE RESPONDED INSTEAD - CFS Marla Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC0062 12/01/12 17:53 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, STUART HWY NO SUBURB,,TG 073, ==RING COOBER PEDY SAPOL,86725056,120 KM STH,NEAR MIRACARDA TWIN STATION :COOB19 GLAD34 : CFS Gladstone Response

MFS: STOP FOR CALL - CFS Gladstone Response

And it was the humans choice to have two Stirling's and a Iron Knob in existence :P

Add that to the 4000 issues forms existant...

Planning & Timing doesnt seem to be on Region 1's side at present.

The initial Sturt/Lofty/Mawson/ET strike team left yesterday at 1500.

Instead of 8pm or 5am this morning, The call to individual brigades in Victor/Strath/Onka/SouthFleu should have started at 1500 yesterday. That gives people time at work, to discuss arrangements with there bosses. Departure time could have still been 0700.

In 2009, for the victorian fire deployments, Region 1, did a very good job. They paged all of the group officers at the same time, bringing the request to all GO/DGO/CAPT's attention at the same time. Due to this, pre-planning was on the spot, rather than delayed.

Was information flow a victim of staff movements???  Region 2 are kicking 1's asses.

(1 of 3) STRL INFO: NEW GRN PORTABLE RADIO's ARE SERVICEABLE. PLEASE FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THIS NEW EQUIPMENT. THERE ARE DOCUMENTS AT THE STATION BELOW THE - CFS Stirling Info

(2 of 3) "CALL OUT" TALLY. ALL APPLIANCES HAVE A QUICK REFERENCE CARD ON THE DASH SHOULD YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THE NEW GRN PORTABLE RADIO S - CFS Stirling Info

(3 of 3) Furthermore, there will be a familiarization night tomorrow from 1830 until 1930 for any member wishing to come along. Stirling Comms - CFS Stirling Info




....AFTER WHICH THERE WILL BE A RECITAL OF WAR AND PEACE, OVER THE PAGING NETWORK 05/01/2012 - CFS Stirling Info

Question: Whose idea was it to break up the daily incident number system into ....god knows another groups..

Isn't the whole point of the DIN, for the comcen to differentiate between each and every job.

I would have thought each DIN, has a different AIRS incident number.

E.g

INC0001 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERICAL BLA
INC0001 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS

As the COQ is an action caused by Incident 0001 ;)