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Yeah i agree with CFS firey ... you agree to turn up and from then on follow orders unless you believe you are not capable of doing it or unsure how to do it in which case you ask for guidance.

MMm not sure, but in talking to the old guys and long time farmers I would say yes.

But a change of technology and the new rules as far as OHS and you can see its a changing world and things have to move with it.

As that has happen I think history and Tradition has no place in respect to the running of the modern day CFS its equipment and personel safety, in regards to injury and customers sueing!

Nah you should go... they go in on all the movies and they still seem to be able to make another movie years latter so you will be fine.. your PPE will protect you!!  :wink:

No seriously you/I would have to sum it up on the day .. I guess some adrenaline will be flowing and sheer size of devastation would see you / I wanting to help! i.e. twin Towers doco where crews responded without being called.

I would imagine that there would be plenty to do away!  away from point of impact and out of immediate radiation danger as such ... also in some circumstances you may find your going to be effected years later and probably have a slow death whether you went into immediate response area or not..

hope to hell something like that never happens or I am standing next to the impact zone so its quick and painless!

MM ok i went i dont care... at risk of being unpopular or whatever i believe its not what Flag or Symbol you march under but why you do it that counts... Though i have to say if the uniform was hot pink instead of yellow i may feel a tad silly wearing it to incidents  :)  :lol:

Well put Mike and I agree I would like to have the same confidence in my crew as well as they could have in me!!

slightly off topic but you may find if you increase the "" appearance / fitness requirement of the CFS "" you may actually attract more members. People wanting to be a part of something that keeps them fit and has a recognition in the public eye that these are fit people... I know that's taking it two steps to far just a point I thought I would throw out there!!

So what you know?

Anybody doing anything interesting.. whos at V8's working or fun!

Nothing here just booked ski trip for this year other than that not much happening...hence the searching for convo ;o)

Yes i heard that too ... also said 15 had just passed the last course!
1400 sounds a bit low dosent it but then we only have 8 I think in our station? ie more just FF than BA

MMm thats interesting James

Not too suprising the ELCB didnt go off as some older houses dont have them on light cct. Also they monitor the differance between supply and return and if its 30mill amps differance... ie 30mill amps that went out but didnt come back it went to earth then it trips. An increase in load will not trip the ELCB monitor but should trip the Circuit Breaker ie greater than rated 10 amps on light cct. (DISCLAIMER....I believe this info is correct but check with your friendly local sparks)

Why didnt the smoke detectors go off?? has that been investigated? hardwired it cant be a flat battery can it ? so ????

best give my detectors at test hey!

Thanks for the news.

I am no good at it so dont know if its just that i dont normally play computor games or that i should have my CFS licence taken away :D

wow
10 mins is a long time! would have thought it would have been shorter than that!

I would think that it would cause all sorts of problems

i.e. people getting ****** off cause
person x lives closer and gets all the calls,
I get to the station as truck drives off,
person x works harder than person Y,
person Y has BA etc person X doesn't so y should be paid more.

Now I wouldn't be that catty but you just watch it happen if they started some sort of paid service.

I believe it should stay volley... if they wanted to do something they maybe could give you a break on your EMERGENCY SERVICE LEVY..

Hi Matte
sounds cool
What type of trainings are they?

like a fitness course/obstacle/combat type thing
Just running and push ups etc
Interval type training
Running with fire gear etc?

Can you give us some more info please
Thanks

hi mike
yeah i agree to a point as after all your life can depend on one of your crew and if they slow the team down that may be a problem..
however If yous start having fintness levels as part of a requirement then crews will be even harder to fill

Interested in others thoughts on this!

Think it would be great to incorperate somesort of fitness training as part of trainings on seperate night maybe???

We have had a series of good trainings not sure if its what you are after but they have been well excepted in our brigade members in no order

(1)Hose drills as a result of Mt Osmond fire!
left for life and protecting your mates

Run out four hoses from each truck and cones set out at 30m+ from truck ... running officer called out advance, left for life, down , up powercone, jet, retreat and turned off one or more lines!

Then sent to use stand pipes and return ASAP... on way told officers to call a burn over drill!

(2) Improvise drills
First part in station handed out a series of drills where things failed.. i.e. water / pump in a fire... that was almost out what could you use to finish job.... MVA hydraulic pump down or rescue vehicle not available (this one happen to us next day... do do do, but luckily no entrapments)
Then went out and did a few drills.... mainly a paper discussion training though!

(3) watched 911 DVD and discussed what happen i.e. chain of command and stuff like that!

(4) Set out cones in shape of house and went through a few drills with people trapped what needed, sitreps, crew jobs etc.

(5) drafting with portable dam and on the run drills with that...

All can be made interesting but all are great to do as we have put a few if not all of then to task in real incidents and to have them as second nature sure makes life easy... also remember to swap crews around don't let same person run pump etc!!

Don't know there was some others but they needed props.
Hope it helps or gives you and idea of something else.

I think I gave you an idea if i didnt then here it is..

Go to each station on training night and do a quick interview or whatever then each month feature a station... members of that station will log on to see what you wrote and some may stay!!

hey hey hey!! mmm you like???  :lol:

Oh an add pic too of all us good look boys and Gals!! or maybe not dont want to scare them away in my case anyway!1 :)

Ok I will be honest I don't get it!
Surely MEADOWS 24 and MEADOWS 24P is pretty self explanatory...Ok if we had two 24 it would be a bit different ... But you have ALFA and BETA don't you?

How is STATION XX 24p or MEADOWS STATION XX 24 any better??

Have you listen to thebraves.com ? when those guys go out its all numbers like........" ladder 34 10:19 10:05 23:56" I cant see that ever happening in a service like ours where you don't know who is going to ride on truck and their rank then have them remember all the codes if there a new FF like myself.

Having said that on jobs like the recent Mount Osmond fire something that shortens radio communication time and therefore makes more space would be good!

Please explain if I am missing the whole point on station numbers

Thanks

This is true but I guess you volunteer the time you have and if you cant spare the time for a strike team or a job that maybe several hours guess you should be able to choose.

I guess If you just got the tone and had to rock up there maybe times where you drop stuff your doing head to station then have to tell Cap or Lt that you cant go as you don't have 4 hrs etc... This maybe a problem in some cases say needing one to roll truck and that one wants to go as they don't have the time to give for strike team but a MVA or small fire they would have gone!!???.

I think the message is a good idea for above reasons but can be bad in the fact people choose... Guess other thing is to if you don't want or feel comfortable with MVA you have that choice too.

What might be an Idea is if you could somehow hook up a truck / trucks rolling so people can get idea if more needed or all go and you can return home type thing... I know there is manual turnout option for no crew but must be frustrating for the people I see at our station that just miss truck as we crewed or rolled after a acceptable time and they just didn't get there in time...

guess a more complex version which we may see someday is that you hit a button on pager if you are attending so the station has idea of numbers coming or personnel responding!!???
yep here (duh hear) ya $$$$$$$$$ as pages would have to talk not just listen... but maybe could be done through mobile network and sms

just some of my thoughts and ideas off top of head thinking allowed (doh aloud).. for better or worse!! :)

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Yeah I believe that if it goes off you attend if you can! Not dependent on the call.
But I guess I have it easy as close to station and work for myself so biggest problem is getting the dog in and locking up! Someone that has to drive to station from a distance to constantly see the truck drive off to a tree down or something and know the likely hood of a second truck rolling would be low would be a bit frustrating I guess..... so I can see why people read the page.

But as you say any job has the potential to turn bad or be bigger than you expect as you cant always rely on the information you get from the person who rang it in... etc

Hi corocfs

I am with Meadows we have always been able to roll a truck but it can be hit an miss on full truck dependent on the call out time.

Cool on the job!! Hope it all goes well for you.
I am thinking I may have to get a real job soon as not much income at he moment... but its the whole thing with my work as it all or nothing and I know there is some work coming soon just not sure on how much longer I can put up with the insecurity of its future and income level.

Hi
Well I joined almost a year ago now as I moved up to the hills. They are pretty short on day crews most times as I am sure most brigades are. So I work from home I thought I could help out and joined up..

Its great to help out the community and that makes you feel good after! the job is done when the achievement sets in that you stopped the situation from being worse. I wish nothing happen but hey its not a perfect world and accidents happen and ***** light fires. :x

so any you Dudes / dudets log on during the day?

Fire03rescue I let some of my cfs mates know about the site.

Let the chit chat start... someone took the time to start the board lets use it! :)

woth while to say ... mmm No nothing today...but good at answering questions :P