SA Firefighter

First line of the MFS recruitment policy: All recruitment processes will be conducted in a fair and equitable manner.

Doesn't appear that is the case......

Stop being a sook. If you want to know why you haven’t processed perhaps try some self reflection. A self entitled whinger who has no self awareness and blames other people and/or the process rather than taking responsibility for the outcomes of their own responses and actions is not what the MFS is looking for. 

I can’t answer this one. Call HR and ask. There were a number of people unable to complete the PAT1 the first time round due to illness who were invited to run this time. It could be that their scores were higher.

I think you’ll find the profiling test pool may have been widened too far for the most recent squads (600-700 deep) and hence a couple of square pegs trying to fit into a round hole. If anything, the process will be reopened again next year to get more applicants to add to the pool of those who have already applied. The aim would be to get more people through to the interview stage who fit into the parameters of the psych test for suitability for the job, rather than widen the parameters and take less suitable people.

Don’t read into how many taken through to recent PAT1. They have to release people to run the test so it’s easier to run a larger group and have extra in the bank for future squads rather than not run enough to top up a squad.

You are required to have 6/6 vision unassisted. Therefore, glasses/contact lenses are not suitable for firefighting. Your safest bet would be to have laser vision correction.

Fact 1: last recruitment campaign, a potential recruit failed the Pat 2 by way of dropping the dummy in the casualty rescue task.

Fact 2: That same recruit was given another chance to contest the Pat 2 after their Station Officer father got involved.

Fact 3: That individual passed the second attempt and is now a serving firefighter!!!

But “We don’t assist anyone during their Pat 2” Bull...t

You’ve taken a second hand information and skewed it to make you feel better about being deemed unsuitable to the role of a firefighter.

Check your facts. You are way off on this one. There was an issue with the equipment provided for the PAT2 which put the applicant at a significant disadvantage and they were offered an opportunity to re contest under the same conditions as everyone else. And they passed with flying colours. The father wasn’t involved. Stop making things up.

If you want to know why you haven’t progressed look at your attitude and posts on this forum and focus on what you need to do no progress in the future, not other people.

Also have been told that “assistance” has been given during the pat2 to enable/encourage gender quotas

There’s always a chance. People from squads 52/53 were beep tested at a later date than those in earlier squads of the same intake.

It’s pretty clearly explained both at the seminars and before you sit the test not to try and overthink your responses or pick the answers you think the MFS are looking for. If you answer it honestly and your results have you sitting within the personality profile the MFS are looking for, you progress.

It is by no means the perfect test, but it is the most effective way of getting a snapshot of the personality types of 2500 applicants, to allow them to PAT 1 and interview a manageable number which doesn’t drain limited MFS resources for months on end.

Just because you spent time in the defence force, doesn’t guarantee you a fast track through the process. Hundreds of choccos apply each intake, and they are well represented in each squad. I get your frustrated but almost  every person who applies can make a claim on why they would be a good candidate based on their skill set and experiences.

Not getting through at this point, doesn’t meant your not suitable for the role, it just means that there were people who were more suitable at this stage in the recruitment process.

The MFS have been pretty clear that they want to diversify their workforce to reflect the community. However, they don’t want to compromise the standards required for entry like other emergency services have. It’s about getting more people with diverse backgrounds to apply, not giving them a free pass.

If you haven’t received a PAT 1 invite yet, you will not receive one until more numbers are required to fill squads. The first three squads of the last intake were made up of the first 240 been tested. All the invitations to contest each stage are sent out at the same time and are not sorted alphabetically or by date.

PAT1 testing will be knocked out in a day and a half if that. They test 32 people per timespot. 6 timeslots a day.

As long as you’ve not been told NO, your still in the mix.

From what I understand, the personality profile can be quite subjective..
I assume having a few ‘neutral‘ answers wouldn’t be bad?

Word of advice. Don’t overthink the personality profiling. Don’t try to predict what they are looking for. It’s not subjective, it’s just a tool to identify personality traits that are conducive to the role of a firefighter. It’s not the perfect system, but it is the most effective and efficient way of ranking thousands of applicants.

If you’ve done the profiling before, be consistent with your answers. Your responses are cross referenced with previous tests. Some of your responses will  change over time as your collect life experience,, but if you said you have never been caught drunk driving and in a previous test you said you did, that’s an obvious red flag that you’re manipulating the result.

They’ve been predicting a mass exodus of employees for 5 years but it’s always in dribs and drabs. There are only so many operational positions they can fill and they will only recruit as numbers demand.  Don’t plan your life around 300 firies retiring tomorrow.

It’s the best job in the world so I’d encourage everyone to have a crack. Just be realistic with the number of positions vs the number of applicants vs competitive field... and don’t be a filtered like beater if you don’t get in the first few squads.

They've probably been busy notifying successful applicants. Squad starts last week of Feb.

With the new process applicants are not required to have their MR until late in the process. There are multiple applicants  who passed the PAT2 and medical but does not have their license. I think they were given 4 weeks from their medical to attain it which takes things to around mid Jan.

All applicants will be notified at the same time late in January.

Who else is going to be?? A number of panels included commanders and those running the forthcoming drill squad.

People can't have it both ways. You can't on one hand complain that the interview process is to rigid, not personable enough and doesn't give the opportunity to weed out potential spuds and then on the other complain that it is too personal and gets to know you on a deeper level.

Given you have not sat in an interview beater, i'd pipe down. There has been a major overhaul of the application process and what you've seen this year is here for the foreseeable future. Figurw out a way to make it work for you rather than whinge.