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With all the stuff going to MDTs now, there was really not much point of putting street address on + means more privacy for patients.

Just interested if anyone knows what the go is with MDT's and country on-call paramedics?

Eg NC188, do Alpha and Bravo both get an MDT messages or just the one you see paged?

Cheers in advance

Just a question regarding MDT dispatch - if anyone knows - Apparently MDT dispatch is done by giving MPDS type eg. 10: Chest Pain and then a Subtype. So radio info like patient age/gender, is that included in remarks - cause according to a friend I was talking to, the subtypes are not gender/age specific?

Interesting choice of where to deploy them.

eg. Pt Lincoln don't have one but Pinnaroo do.

Anyway they seem like they'll be a good tool for SAAS to use and faster response times will certainly benefit patients

So I'm hearing a lot less radio traffic from SAAS with the introduction of the mobile data terminals. Wondering whether anyone has used one, or knows someone who has, and what their thoughts are about them?

My understanding is that info, warnings and all remarks are basically relayed to the mdt - seems a good idea.

Any thoughts?

Quote from: Raven on February 19, 2013, 01:24:10 PM

Quote from: fire8029 on February 19, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
and this one,

19-02-13 10:43:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 18/02/13 15:58 RESPOND STRIKE TEAM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @TILLEY SWAMP:,MAP:C/41 54,TG 224, ==STRIKE TEAM AS ADVISED BY REGION 3 DUTY OFFICER :WDV243 : - MFS Woodville WDV243

I saw that then.

But it appears the paging feed is either broken or frozen.

Adam internet has had some major outages at it's stirling and glenunga exchanges, so the person who is hosting the feed may be affected by this. Believe it is due to some issue with Adam's backhaul provider.

So that may be why feed 1 is down?

For those who are interested, Adelaide Now has set up a survey after the commencement of fire danger season in the Mid North, Murraylands, Riverland, Upper South East and Yorke Peninsula

The survey asks questions such as; should it be compulsory for homeowners to clean up before fire danger season and, another question which may raise some debate, should CFS firefighters be paid? I presume based on the MFS retain model.

So I thought I throw this survey out into the open and allow for you guys and gals to raise some debate about some of the questions - especially the paid question

For those interested in completing the survey, here it is below

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CJ9KPRF

Cheers,

Skip

If I may say something here - now im not part of the health industry.

BUT

from what I am reading I do not agree with you at all Kelly. Close family members have rendered the assistance of ECPs in the past, and, on one or two occasions I have been there watching their work. There is no way that someone would volunteer to be a "like a local doctor/clinician.

One - because they volunteer to assist in the prehospital service delivery/transporting to hospital so that trained and paid clincians can do the job.
Two - lets not forget that one does not automatically attain the ECP position: paramedic -> Intensive care paramedic -> ECP. So a vollie who has gone through 12-18 months of training, and, has been trained to provide basic emergency management should not be instilled with the obligation to provide the service which is regarded as the bridge between ambulance personnel and doctor.
And Three - How many vollies would actually want to go to a patients house for up to two hours (mentioned in this article) to establish a patient care plan or undertake the tasks mentioned by SBA? With work and family commitments I would say not many.

There's no escaping that ECPs do attend mundane taskings - like most emergency personnel do. However, I dont believe that a volunteer should be trained to undertake this training, only to call in a paramedic (who might be 100 km away) and waste time that could have been spent at hospital.

So whilst I dont have the clinical experience like you guys, I have witnessed the role of an ECP, and this is my personal opinion.

Cheers, Skip

Just another call sign question:

Few TL's ive heard today, just wondering what districts they cover if any knows?

OS8, OS6 & OS7

cheers

I found this interesting, but should be a good idea with the growing population on the Limestone Coast. I believe they will be based in Mt Gambier

LIMESTONE Coast paramedics are trialling a program intended to reduce the strain on medical services.


Three of the region's experienced paramedics are undertaking specialist training so they can treat people suffering from non-urgent health complaints in their own homes.

Instead of arriving in a traditional ambulance, two of the specialist paramedics - known as extended care paramedics (ECP) - will arrive at the scene in a four-wheel-drive equipped to provide more than just emergency care.

While the vehicle will not be able to transport a patient to hospital, it will be stocked with supplies such as antibiotics, catheters and blood testing equipment.

Limestone Coast ambulance operations manager Andrew Thomas told The Border Watch he was hopeful this would prevent people who were suffering from low-acuity health complaints being taken to hospital unnecessarily.

"It's a more community-based approach, and it's been about three years in the making," he said.

Mr Thomas said an example of the service could be somebody with a urinary infection who would ordinarily have to call an ambulance to access medical help being administered the appropriate antibiotic by an ECP.

The specialist paramedic would then write a care plan - to be shared with the patient's usual GP and existing health providers such as aged care workers - to thoroughly tackle the issue and try to keep the patient in their home for longer.

"A traditional ambulance is usually at somebody's house for 20 to 30 minutes ... these guys might be at a person's house for up to two hours," Mr Thomas said.

If the situation turned out to be serious enough to warrant a trip to the hospital, Mr Thomas said the specialist paramedics could always call for an emergency ambulance.

"It's not replacing anyone - it's filling in the gaps and providing extra clinical pathways for patients in country areas," he said.

The pilot program will be tested in the Limestone Coast over 18 months, starting from the end of the year,

and will be regularly reviewed.

The initiative was made possible by the region's successful funding application to Health Workforce Australia, which resulted in a previously reported $630,000 federal grant to extend the scope of its workforce.

Experienced intensive care paramedic David Dewar is one of the three South East men training to become an ECP.


He said he was excited by the program because it could give people with non-emergency conditions an option other than an ambulance or the hospital's accident and emergency service.

"We might be able to avoid unnecessary long-distance transfers to the hospital, free-up emergency ambulance services and reduce the impact on our South East ambulance volunteers," Mr Dewar said.

"It could also take the pressure off the emergency department at the hospital because we can divert patients away from there."

bit of both - but more so - yes - the research pagers are no longer on the paging feed

is anyone noticing that the SAAS Road crash research is down? Any one know why?

cheers :)

Thanks All

I ended up doing it 2 weeks ago at South Coast District Hospital in Victor Harbor, following the medical/paramedic industry I had desired. Met some a volly from Goolwa who is a nurse there and she said I can do an observer shift with SAAS which I didnt know. Anyway was a great week, saw and learned a lot.

Cheers

Quote from: straps on November 12, 2010, 04:24:06 PM
I should have clarified and said that SAAS medical officers have a DR callsign.
Am guessing that Uncle Hugh is DR1 and Bill is DR2 and maybe Evan is DR3..

From my south coast days, I think Lyn Gardiner (yankalilla) was DR9...

Happy to be corrected..

Dragging up an old topic I know, but did anyone see this one!?!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/yankalilla-doctor-saved-by-medstar-emergency-rescue/story-fn6bqphm-1226375600651

Not sure if this is the right place to put my post. I was interested in knowing why some cars are on one pager feed but not on others. Like a RTL like OS11 will come up on the Saas road crash feed but when it gets responded to a chest pain case wont comes up. Is this a fault, and is there anyone who fixes this? Pretty minor I know, just interested?

Cheers

Thanks for that Al. Just one other thing, do volunteers stay at the station when they are rostered or do they wait at home for a call. I suppose this would be based on how busy the station is?

Hi all,

Just after some information.

I understand all volunteer stations would run different systems of rostering, but would anyone know how rostering of volunteers work in some stations. Take Strath for a example, a busier station, do they roster people of from 8:00am to 6:00pm or are shifts divided into time slots

Thanks

Gotta say, SAFirey takes some pretty awesome shots...Saw a few on ozfire and in the Advertiser. Nice work.

Any update on the injured firefighter. Saw all the smoke from West Tce, and throught straight away: Wingfield.

I think there is a major fire there every six months?

Hi all,

I was looking for some information or possible contacts. I am doing my year 11 studies at the moment and looking for work experience for mid June this year. My initial preference was hospitals and the ambulance, but most are full or unable to do this due to the privacy act. My second interest is the SAMFS or CFS. I sent an email this afternoon, however, does anyone know if the MFS or CFS HQ do work experience, ie comms work ect.

Dont hesitate to send me a pm too.

Cheers

Thanks Pip, safireservice and fire000, much appreciated.

:-D

May I ask what website that was safireservice? Cheers

Are you sure, they must be displayed privately because not seen them displayed over the urgmsg.net site in ages. Thanks anyway

I'm just interested (this is more on the SAAS side of SACAD) will the Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research pagers resume or does that cause to many issues?

lol, i must say, i like the sacad countdown tab now

One thing's for sure, we have never seen so many 2nd, 3rd or even 4th alarms in such a short time.