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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: SA Firey on December 15, 2006, 07:58:45 PM

Title: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: SA Firey on December 15, 2006, 07:58:45 PM
A little bird tells me Mt Barker has received their new 24P  :-P

Could this spell the end for Dennis the Menace :-o
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: calspec on December 15, 2006, 08:45:50 PM
NEW???

That was a quick turn around.  Must of just rebadged HV24P, gave it a quick clean and checked its kit.  Good luck with it!

It is the same vintage as the 24P they lost to Littlehampton.  Wouldn't think there would be much difference.

What is their short term plan?  Hold onto Hahndorf pumper or use 24P as their primary urban appliance and give the type 2 back?
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: vincent on December 15, 2006, 10:51:24 PM
yes our new 24P is just a HV rebadged.

The Heysen group Officers lost their balls and sent Hahndorf pumper back to Hahndorf (u really have to wonder why you would send a pumper back to a station that cant crew it and has bugger all urban risk)

So we are now responding Barker Rescue as our primary truck for all urban and rescue jobs with 24P being backup

DGO1 has told us that we should respond hahndorf and little hampton if we need them, I DON'T THINK SO,

you group officers will pay for this bad decision
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: 24P on December 16, 2006, 04:36:56 AM
So are you keeping it for good or is it just a temporary appliance?
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Camo on December 16, 2006, 07:22:35 AM
Quote from: vincent  link=topic=996.msg22870#msg22870 date=1166190684
yes our new 24P is just a HV rebadged.

The Heysen group Officers lost their balls and sent Hahndorf pumper back to Hahndorf (u really have to wonder why you would send a pumper back to a station that cant crew it and has bugger all urban risk)

So we are now responding Barker Rescue as our primary truck for all urban and rescue jobs with 24P being backup

DGO1 has told us that we should respond hahndorf and little hampton if we need them, I DON'T THINK SO,

you group officers will pay for this bad decision


Why wouldnt you respond them if you need them?
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: bittenyakka on December 16, 2006, 08:30:09 AM
yeah not responding them seems like there is mets blood up that way. remember the team aspect of CFS? :? :evil:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: SA Firey on December 16, 2006, 09:48:33 AM
Quote from: vincent  link=topic=996.msg22870#msg22870 date=1166190684
yes our new 24P is just a HV rebadged.

The Heysen group Officers lost their balls and sent Hahndorf pumper back to Hahndorf (u really have to wonder why you would send a pumper back to a station that cant crew it and has bugger all urban risk)

So we are now responding Barker Rescue as our primary truck for all urban and rescue jobs with 24P being backup

DGO1 has told us that we should respond hahndorf and little hampton if we need them, I DON'T THINK SO,

you group officers will pay for this bad decision

You cant let pride stand in the way of protecting life and property,which is the essence of our existence.TEAM SPIRIT :wink:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: 5271rescue on December 16, 2006, 11:17:28 AM
I think vincent will be getting his rear kicked for what he has said and may be it is about time that marker did call for back up and use what is in your group..Last time I looked your rescue was a type two pumper so what is your problem........
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: squiddy on December 16, 2006, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: 5271rescue on December 16, 2006, 11:17:28 AM
I think vincent will be getting his rear kicked for what he has said and may be it is about time that marker did call for back up and use what is in your group..Last time I looked your rescue was a type two pumper so what is your problem........

Think the problem is that they might as well call in a crew from Adelaide by the time the others got crews and decided to rock up...
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Darius on December 16, 2006, 06:30:02 PM

I think the problem here is that airing your complaints on here (rather than at a group or regional meeting) is in no way productive.  Publicly slagging off a fellow brigade (or your group officers) says more about the complainer, to me, than what is being complained about.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: pumprescue on December 16, 2006, 08:00:30 PM
I heard Mt Barker are now getting a horse and cart.....
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: 5271rescue on December 17, 2006, 05:22:29 AM
No,they MFS will just open up the road from them.....
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Camo on December 17, 2006, 09:25:05 AM
I heard the SES were going to take over fire duties in the Barker area  :lol:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: SA Firey on December 17, 2006, 11:23:01 AM
OMG :lol:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Crankster 34 on December 17, 2006, 01:06:35 PM
Barker will actually decide to de-register themselves as a CFS brigade and then form their own fire service, supplying a range of fire and EMS resources. MFS will then move in and a bitter row will evolve, crews will arrive and park on others hoses and fights will break out at jobs, crews in BA in going house fires will even have to deal with crews from other services turning off their air sets, some of this will be captured by the media and there will be public outcry.

Eventually Barker will prove that they provide a service equally as well as their paid brothers and the MFS will be asked by the community to leave town, Barker will once again reign supreme and will remain as a private fire service supported by the community and won't have to deal with the crap the CFS deals out to them anymore.

Just the way I see it unfolding in the future.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Camo on December 17, 2006, 01:40:21 PM
Thats a classic.  I love it
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: SA Firey on December 17, 2006, 08:54:30 PM
On another note Mt Barker could be signing their own death warrant :?
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: pumprescue on December 17, 2006, 10:59:30 PM
SA firey what are you trying to say.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Smallflame on December 18, 2006, 06:24:14 AM
Quote from: 5271rescue on December 16, 2006, 11:17:28 AM
I think vincent will be getting his rear kicked for what he has said and may be it is about time that marker did call for back up and use what is in your group..Last time I looked your rescue was a type two pumper so what is your problem........

The fact that its our dedicated RESCUE appliance, hence the RESCUE callsign. If it is committed at a job where a pumper is required and a RCR is required, backup is a fair while away, and like all volunteer brigades there's no guarantee its coming either.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: calspec on December 18, 2006, 08:06:10 AM
Please don't take this the wrong way, but isn't 24P your backup in that situation?  For sure, respond Rescue where a pump is required, but if Rescue is already tied up and you have crews available for a second appliance/job then send 24P.  Heck, 24P is good enough for a lot of brigades as their primary urban pump, it should be good enough for Mt Barker as a backup pump??

I also do realise that MtB have been accustomed to a dedicated pump as well as a seperate Rescue, and have had to back pedal to their original setup of 24P/24/Rescue, and no one likes going backwards - but at least their current rescue is MORE than capable as a Pumper. 

I just think that a lot of noses will be put out of joint if MtB get a second type 2 before some other brigades can even get their first one.  My two cents.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: HV_RKO007 on December 18, 2006, 01:24:32 PM
I agree with Calspec. Some brigades are more needing of a Pumper Appliance where their Urban risk is just as great as their rural risk. Plus for you Barker Boys, wouldn't it be better for you to have a Truck that can do both Urban and Rural Firefighting to back up your 24, so you can protect assets and fire bushfires aswell with the one Truck, hell you may even get to go on Stike Teams having an Urban/Rural Firetruck :lol:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: medevac on December 18, 2006, 01:52:10 PM
they already regularly go on strike teams....
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: SA Firey on January 12, 2007, 05:57:29 PM
Just fix the Dennis and problem solvered  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: JC on January 17, 2007, 10:12:45 PM
It seems to me, that what Mt Barker want they get, there are brigades around that would love to have a 24p to back up there 24p, they seem to forget they have rural risks as well, wanting to many pumpers could mean those trucks may turn red someday.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: probie_boy on January 18, 2007, 02:52:58 PM
does anyone have a snap of this truck?
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Pipster on January 18, 2007, 03:15:14 PM
It is the same as their old 24P, which is now at Littlehampton

http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/Station_Display.asp?Service_Code=SACFS&Station_Code=LTHT

Pip
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: probie_boy on January 18, 2007, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: pipster on January 18, 2007, 03:15:14 PM
It is the same as their old 24P, which is now at Littlehampton

http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/Station_Display.asp?Service_Code=SACFS&Station_Code=LTHT

Pip

oh ok, i thought it was a newer one like woodsides or lobethals.
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: filtered on January 18, 2007, 10:23:56 PM
Quote from: jasec on January 17, 2007, 10:12:45 PM
It seems to me, that what Mt Barker want they get

From what I've heard round the traps, Mt Barker hasn't had any say in any of their vehicle movements during the past few years...

This should be taken with a pinch of salt as it had gone through many people before I heard it, but their appliance numbers have dropped over those years...

Does any brigade really have any say in  what they do/don't get these days?  From what I've observed, most are getting told what happens and have very little say in what happens with their fleet...
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: medevac on January 19, 2007, 08:11:50 AM
i can think of a couple of places tjhat have kicked up scheiße until they got what they wanted... or just flat out refused to accept appliances...  :roll:
Title: Re: Mt Barker 24P
Post by: Pipster on January 19, 2007, 11:20:20 AM
Our old 14 was coming up for replacement around 2 years ago.

We were given 3 options to replace it - with a Light Rural (2 seater landcruiser type set up), a six wheel drive single cab thing, (I think) again with 2 seats, but carries more water than the light rural, and a 1000 litre twin cab Canter.

We selected the 1000 litre Canter, and that is what we got......

So we certainly had a say...    :-D

Pip