Heard a rumor the mfs are looking to build Pumper Tankers,does anyone know any different?
Dont they already have pumper/tankers????
Let me explain what a pumper tanker is for you,its a fire truck with large water and pumping capacity.At the moment they dont have a vehicle that does both.
Can you elaborate on what specific capacities you are referring to?
In the CFS world a tanker is normally at least 6000ltrs or more. Just saying large is a very relative term. :-)
Are you just referring to a normal pumper with higher than normal water capacity for SAMFS(normal being 1000-1800ltrs). Or are you suggesting a true tanker as in bulk water in the realms of 6000 ltrs.
CFA call their trucks tankers so do you mean a 34P type truck?
Edit: I meant CFA, not CFS.
Whyalla MFS have a tanker, anyone know what that one is like
I would be guessing, but I am assuming Pete is referring to the Pumper Tankers like MFB and QFRS. - Like the Scania/ International Twin axel Chassis, 8000lt / m Pumps etc.
That is what I know a " Pumper Tanker / Ultra Large" as.
After posting ^^ , and looking into it, I found CFA also have a " Pumper Tanker " on an Isuzu Chassis.
See pictures here.
http://www.ozfire.org/viewtopic.php?t=981
Quote from: MundCFS on October 09, 2006, 11:12:12 PM
Whyalla MFS have a tanker, anyone know what that one is like
is this what you are looking for:
http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/Station_Display.asp?Service_Code=SAMFS&Station_Code=52
Yeah seen the pic before but just wondered if it was any good??
Or maybe he means one of these 2
That is a MFB tanker pumper they run a crew of 2 on it and it was built by SKILLED in Ballarat.....now dont SAMFS have 4wd pumpers??? I am sure there is one in the bridge???that would be a pumper/tanker...
or this?
24P - That was the type of appliance that sprung to mind with the title " Pumper Tanker ".. :)
Sounds like a great idea and something CFS could follow suit with!!!
It would be nice to arrive at a going incident and know you had more than a couple of minutes of water, before you needed a hydrant!
Have seen the MFB and NSWFB ones - when speaking to the crews they had nothing but praise (execpt for the extra weight and licence upgrade)
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 10, 2006, 08:18:02 PM
24P - That was the type of appliance that sprung to mind with the title " Pumper Tanker ".. :)
When you say 24P it makes you think of "wannabe pumper" or "lil Pumper"
No, sorry, I was referring to the forum user, 24P - With his picture of the twin axel Scania - Being the Pumper Tanker - which is what springs to mind when I hear "P/Tanker" :)
Fair enough. Ill go sit back in the corner
No your alrite mate, wonderful world of Forums ;)
MFS could do with some pumper tankers, maybe 3 or 4 at like STN 43, 42, 35, 32 and maybe even 22 or 44.
CFS were looking into them, basically a 34p but on dual rear axle and 6000L of water. Several areas could use these. I don't know what ever happened to the idea.
So.... a 64P.... Doesnt really roll off the tongue.... by i could get used to it
I don't think they would be on a 4x4, i think they were looking at the Isuzu 1400 the same as lofty tanker so i don't know what they would be called, probably pumper tanker would be easiest and most descriptive.
Quote from: TillerMan on October 26, 2006, 02:53:11 PM
I don't think they would be on a 4x4, i think they were looking at the Isuzu 1400 the same as lofty tanker so i don't know what they would be called, probably pumper tanker would be easiest and most descriptive.
Maybe they could put portable pumps on them and make them as rude and agricultural as the lofty tanker
Quote from: oz fire on November 09, 2006, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: TillerMan on October 26, 2006, 02:53:11 PM
I don't think they would be on a 4x4, i think they were looking at the Isuzu 1400 the same as lofty tanker so i don't know what they would be called, probably pumper tanker would be easiest and most descriptive.
Maybe they could put portable pumps on them and make them as rude and agricultural as the lofty tanker
Have you seen Charleston tanker?
Yank out the banjos folks...
Oh yeah, what an oldie.
But still better than nothing.
We filled from her today, still does the job, just doesnt look that pretty
But Charleston Tanker certainly sounds mean when it winds up!!!! :-D
Thats it, it may look a little strange, but if you can't get a 6wd RFW where you want water, what will you get...
It's a beaut..
Last week I drove past Willunga CFS and saw a gathering of fire vehicles.
Amongst the white & yellow vehicle, I noticed the Kyeema BWT was near the oval. Looked like a milk semi, but is impressive at 17,000litre capacity.
http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/Station_Display.asp?Service_Code=SACFS&Station_Code=G-KYE
Kyeema BWC is similar to Jervois, and Lucindale Group Tankers - all ex milk tankers...
Jervois has the old Promotions Unit Prime Mover attached, the other tow just utilise privately owned Prime Movers in their areas.....
Quote from: pipster on November 13, 2006, 11:12:28 AM
Kyeema BWC is similar to Jervois, and Lucindale Group Tankers - all ex milk tankers...
Jervois has the old Promotions Unit Prime Mover attached, the other tow just utilise privately owned Prime Movers in their areas.....
Do they have any pumps on board ? The CFS Promo website does not list any.
If not, do they utilise a portable pump from somewhere to fill or discharge into a portable dam ?
Yep, they have pumps on board...generally plumbed in, some may carry a portable pump as well, although I am not sure. A pump is not listed on the Promo website, as there is an assumption that if it carries water, it has a pump to move it!! :-)
Some (all?) carry a portable dam as well.....
Just checked up the other details I have - the Lucindale Group tanker is 12,500 Litres (Does that make it BW125 or BW12.5? ) :wink:
Pip
:lol: i reckon it woukd be BWC 12.5 other wise it would carry 125000L which would currently be hard to find in SA.
dont think that BWC for lucindale will see the fireground this year :roll:
Having tankers is all well and good but the next thing to think about is where will we get the water to fill them continuously.
25 weeks of water left in the reservoirs according to the Govt
A busy fire season will only make it sooner :-o
start using all those stock piles of bottled water....
but the group wont let us 'stockpile'.... :lol:
Quote from: medevac on November 19, 2006, 06:26:11 AM
but the group wont let us 'stockpile'.... :lol:
Sounds like your group sucks :-D
shhhhh we must be the only two who know.... :roll:
A BWC is better than a concrete truck full of gravel in your pumps too :evil:
And better than an effluent truck :-o
S*#O Yeah :lol:
The local crap truck down here has a sticker on the windshield "YESTERDAY'S MEALS ON WHEEL'S" Absolutly priceless :lol:
Quote from: pipster on November 24, 2006, 08:07:19 AM
And better than an effluent truck :-o
But you can fertilise the bush for regrowth at the same time has putting the fire out :roll:
A- class foam does that better
And many native plants don't like high levels of Nitrogen, which is contained in effluent....
Might go nicely on the home garden, but not so on native stuff....
Kenny made a fortune in his film :-D