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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: Mike on May 22, 2006, 08:24:47 AM

Title: SPAM
Post by: Mike on May 22, 2006, 08:24:47 AM
Quite often you see SAAS requesting Peer Support for our green friends. In fact i kind of get the impression it is for all incidents of that nature.

Should CFS adopt this process as part of their volunteer management? I know its generally left up to the OIC and individuals, but im talking about notifying them as a default.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on May 22, 2006, 09:26:51 AM
It couldn't be a bad thing???

We've also got access to a local chaplain that is willing to come out to a scene at the drop of a hat if we need, which is a pretty handy thing to have.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: mengcfs on May 22, 2006, 09:32:35 AM
Yeah,
We have access to a Chaplin also.  He is the Police Chaplain. He is good in the interim until the SPAM team is activated. We have found him beneficial as he actually is on scene and sees exactly what we see.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: strikeathird on May 22, 2006, 10:40:39 AM
SPAM should definately be utilised for any Fatality regardless.

But, it doesn't have to stop there... If you feel you may be affected by any incident, big or small.. They are willing to come out and give their support.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: Mike on May 22, 2006, 10:48:06 AM
Quote from: strikeathird on May 22, 2006, 10:40:39 AM
But, it doesn't have to stop there... If you feel you may be affected by any incident, big or small.. They are willing to come out and give their support.

Didnt mean to imply otherwise, just suggesting that in particular for fatals (of any kind) that SPAM be responded without having to even ask....
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: probie_boy on May 22, 2006, 11:29:35 AM
i have dealt with spam team before. they were very caring and helpful and were just listening to our accounts of the incident. I felt happy with knowing that they are there if needed.

also, at one road accident, a guy rocked up to the crash site, and we went to turn him around. we found out it was the victims chaplain, and he was a surprisingly big help in getting him through his ordeal. He had been called by the victims family. He was a big help in keeping the victim calm.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: CaptCom on May 22, 2006, 11:52:59 AM
I can honestly say that without the SPAM team and all their support since Black Tuesday, maybe some people wouldn't still be here.

They do an incredible job and people shouldn't be afraid to talk to them...it's not a sign of weakness or that you have a mental health issue if you need to talk about something that has affected you...that's why they are there for us.. :-)
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: strikeathird on May 22, 2006, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: Mike on May 22, 2006, 10:48:06 AM
Quote from: strikeathird on May 22, 2006, 10:40:39 AM
But, it doesn't have to stop there... If you feel you may be affected by any incident, big or small.. They are willing to come out and give their support.

Didnt mean to imply otherwise, just suggesting that in particular for fatals (of any kind) that SPAM be responded without having to even ask....

Yea no worries mate, didnt mean it to sound like you did..   lol....
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: rescue5271 on May 22, 2006, 04:51:00 PM
we have a SPAM team member in our brigade and we also make sure we have a debrief after every job no matter how small or big..SAAS must have a good fleet of spam members in there service..
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: CaptCom on May 23, 2006, 07:55:15 AM
I think that that would be a good practice for all brigades Bill...sometimes it can be the smallest thing that will tip someone over...or a cumulative effect..you are lucky to have a SPAM member in your brigade..
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: medevac on May 23, 2006, 08:43:26 AM
SPAM may only be 'responded" to incidents at the request of OIC, but they are aware of all fatalities and 'Significant Incidents' as the SPAM head honchos would recieve SOCC SigInc pages...
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: mengcfs on May 23, 2006, 08:51:51 AM
What the hell does SIGINC stand for anyway???
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: medevac on May 23, 2006, 08:55:56 AM
significant incident...
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: mengcfs on May 23, 2006, 11:03:46 AM
Thanks,
Wow that filter is pretty touchy, hardly said anything harsh!
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: probie_boy on May 23, 2006, 12:16:56 PM
haha yeah, we've discussed that one before. but firefrog gets all narky, don't ya f/frog! :-D
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: PF_ on May 23, 2006, 01:24:44 PM
It makes you seem like a foul mouthed lout when all you might have said is HELLo  (not O at the end, did that to break past f/frogs iron fisted filter  :-P
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: Mike on May 23, 2006, 02:21:21 PM
come now kiddies  :wink: ..... be good. Keep with the thread.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: medevac on May 23, 2006, 03:00:35 PM
BAN THEM BOTH
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: rescue5271 on May 23, 2006, 03:01:53 PM
send them to there rooms with no TV or food :lol:
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on May 23, 2006, 03:06:24 PM
The SPAM program is in use to debrief volunteers after incidents even if its a realtively small incident

So lets all get along and play nicely
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: strikeathird on May 23, 2006, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: medevac on May 23, 2006, 03:00:35 PM
BAN THEM BOTH

Agrees...

Ban.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on May 23, 2006, 03:25:13 PM
The Dungeon or Solitary Confinement their choice  :-D
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: PF_ on May 23, 2006, 03:50:08 PM
Hey c'mon, I dindt make the hitler comments, and Im assuming youse are joking about the ban  :-P
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: medevac on May 23, 2006, 05:46:19 PM
hmmm, nah im pretty fed up with every thread getting turned to crap...
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: PF_ on May 23, 2006, 05:51:53 PM
Sorry mate, I didnt mean to turn it into crap or anything, just a light hearted dig at the filter. 

Seriously, threads will always go off on a tangent, it is unlikely threads will always stick to the original toic as everyone has different opinions and thoughts with input.
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: medevac on May 23, 2006, 06:10:09 PM
nah - i think everyone knows what im talking about... but nm, now im whacking the thread  :roll:
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: probie_boy on May 24, 2006, 08:48:52 AM
alright everyone, my comedic post is gone, happy?

ok, now back to the topic. Where were we...oh ok.

SPAM = useful and good
Title: Re: SPAM
Post by: The Assistant on June 07, 2006, 12:18:53 PM
SPAM

what can you say some usefullness and some not, SPAM is split into two sections those involved get a debrief and those that may have been at the incident but not directly involved get a defuse, all participants are supposed to get a follow up call however, we recently involved SPAM in a job we had at which we had a defuse and a debrief, those of us that participated in the defuse recieved a phone call to see how we where going (although not directly affected) however those who were directly affected have as yet recieved nothing from SPAM. If spam is to work then the follow up is necessary part of the process... :?