SAMFS Website has now been updated:
The South Australian Metropolitan Fire Service (MFS) is currently planning its 2011 Full Time Firefighter Recruitment Campaign and we encourage you to watch our website for further information.
Get ready punters!
Here we go again... :lol:
Why do they insist on advertising this when i have just had an interview for a new job, talk about timing!!!
For a different option, i see MFB are recruiting too:
http://mfb.acer.edu.au/prereg.php (http://mfb.acer.edu.au/prereg.php)
Who cares the job does not pay eonugh!
:-P
Quote from: BundyBear on September 26, 2010, 08:14:09 AM
Who cares the job does not pay eonugh!
:-P
Not all jobs are about $$$ BundyBear
Quote from: Bunyip on September 24, 2010, 10:17:32 AM
For a different option, i see MFB are recruiting too:
http://mfb.acer.edu.au/prereg.php (http://mfb.acer.edu.au/prereg.php)
although the entrance test is a bit harder than the SAMFS. Ive tried for the MFB bfore and the 1st entrance test is like a uni STAT test
Quote from: BundyBear on September 26, 2010, 08:14:09 AM
Who cares the job does not pay eonugh!
:-P
Thats the whole idea....your other business/job on the side is what tips you up into the highest tax bracket......
Quote from: USAR123 on September 28, 2010, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: Bunyip on September 24, 2010, 10:17:32 AM
For a different option, i see MFB are recruiting too:
http://mfb.acer.edu.au/prereg.php (http://mfb.acer.edu.au/prereg.php)
although the entrance test is a bit harder than the SAMFS. Ive tried for the MFB bfore and the 1st entrance test is like a uni STAT test
FS
Does anyone have any idea when next year they might advertise?
anyone doing any specific training for the tests? i'm just doing some generalised running/weights at the moment, but plan to do more specific traing over the next couple of months.
Well if anyone has been reading up on the requirements, they would have noticed that there was a change yesterday.
I emailed the MFS about it last week and they've updated it. Can anyone pick it?
Quote from: Zander on October 19, 2010, 07:31:54 AM
Well if anyone has been reading up on the requirements, they would have noticed that there was a change yesterday.
I emailed the MFS about it last week and they've updated it. Can anyone pick it?
First Aid??
yep, legislation changes in december. I'll be booking myself in this week to get myself up to date.
I think it would have caught a lot of people if they didn't update it!
that blows seeing as i only updated my first aid a few months ago! oh well cant hurt to do it again i suppose.. :roll:
sorry just checked the code on my first aid certificate looks like i'm in the clear! :-D
Thanks for pointing that one out Ferret. Sent an email to Mara the other day. Got a reply saying my first aid will be ok. Thank god I dont have to redo it again seeing as I re did it not long ago
another change.
Hold a current Full Heavy Rigid (Synchromesh) Driver's Licence (valid in South Australia). Full Heavy Rigid (Road Ranger) Driver's Licence is optional. Fur further information access the Department for Transport, Energy & Infrastructure website.
now that is just making it too easy !!!!!
It was that before. They have just simplified it for people to understand. Used to be either unrestricted Heavy Rigid or Heavy Rigid with condition A or B which is automatic or syncromesh. So the only thing they have taken out is the Automatic.
Hi all,
Just wondering where applicants are receiving their Statement of Attainment for the basic skills for Microsoft applications? I have contacted a handfull employment agencies in Adelaide and i dont seem to be getting anywhere.....Any suggestions?
Cheers
Quote from: Bolts84 on November 18, 2010, 02:25:39 PM
Hi all,
Just wondering where applicants are receiving their Statement of Attainment for the basic skills for Microsoft applications? I have contacted a handfull employment agencies in Adelaide and i dont seem to be getting anywhere.....Any suggestions?
Cheers
Got mine from Westaff in the city a few years ago, not sure if they still do it.
westaff still do it did mine with them about a month ago and they were pretty good
Adelaide Branch
Level 2/41 Currie Street
Adelaide SA 5000
Phone: 08 8212 4202
Fax: 08 8212 4922
Thanks for your posts.....that's one place I didn't try. I will get onto them and get it sorted.
Does anyone happen to know the order in which the components of the recruitment takes place?
Cheers
Quote from: Bolts84 on November 19, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Does anyone happen to know the order in which the components of the recruitment takes place?
Cheers
Last year they did PAT 1 first then aptitude and profiling then interview. Dont know about any of the rest. I only got to the interview.
But when you do PAT 1 you have to have License, 1st aid cert and typing cert with you so they can sight them other wise you wont be able to try out. They are strict with that
Quote from: USAR123 on November 19, 2010, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: Bolts84 on November 19, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
Does anyone happen to know the order in which the components of the recruitment takes place?
Cheers
Last year they did PAT 1 first then aptitude and profiling then interview. Dont know about any of the rest. I only got to the interview.
But when you do PAT 1 you have to have License, 1st aid cert and typing cert with you so they can sight them other wise you wont be able to try out. They are strict with that
Usually after the interview the numbers will be culled again, they may cab rank 100 people and then take numbers from the top as they need recruits. The next step is then the pat2, i think when they know how many numbers they need eg. 1 drill squad(18 people) they will put maybe 20 thru this. If you pass the next step is they call your referees and then finally the medical.
Hey USAR, did you take them up on the feed back after your interview? What did they tell you, purely for interest sake of course. I have had the same feed back two years running.....
Quote from: gasman on November 21, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Hey USAR, did you take them up on the feed back after your interview? What did they tell you, purely for interest sake of course. I have had the same feed back two years running.....
The sucky thing with my feedback was that I didn't get my feedback from who interviewed me. They just went by what notes that were written.
I was told that I didn't give enough information / detail in my answers to their questions relating to the PID. Although I was told my note taking was good that I wrote down to prompt myself for my answers.
Hopefully I can get further this year.
Quote from: USAR123 on November 21, 2010, 09:40:53 PM
Quote from: gasman on November 21, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Hey USAR, did you take them up on the feed back after your interview? What did they tell you, purely for interest sake of course. I have had the same feed back two years running.....
The sucky thing with my feedback was that I didn't get my feedback from who interviewed me. They just went by what notes that were written.
I was told that I didn't give enough information / detail in my answers to their questions relating to the PID. Although I was told my note taking was good that I wrote down to prompt myself for my answers.
Hopefully I can get further this year.
They interview roughly 150 people so even if you did speak to the person that interviewed you there is a fair chance they would not remember you personally and would just read the notes they took anyway. The whole recruiting process sucks but not sure what a better way to do it is
Similar feed back to mine, almost seemed to be a bit generic. Keep trying and we will get in eventually
Just curious to what 'PID' stands for?
Cheers
Quote from: Bolts84 on November 22, 2010, 04:13:11 PM
Just curious to what 'PID' stands for?
Cheers
Position Information Document. I think.
Thats fair enough though. They did tell me its a hard process to be able to keep on top of for the interview feed backs.
I got no probs with still trying gasman. I'll keep going till I get there in the end.
PID = Postion Information Document. You were right Ferret
Hi Guys (and Girls?),
Does any one have an idea of what month 2011 application are likely to be taken?
My permanent residency status doesn't come through until May and I'll be gutted if I have to wait another year for my first attempt.
Many thanks,
KPC
Quote from: King Prawn Curry on November 22, 2010, 06:40:55 PM
Hi Guys (and Girls?),
Does any one have an idea of what month 2011 application are likely to be taken?
My permanent residency status doesn't come through until May and I'll be gutted if I have to wait another year for my first attempt.
Many thanks,
KPC
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I would say late January early February buy that would be a complete guess
Thanks Ferret and USAR123 for confirming that. I have now found that info on the MFS website and will have a good read through.
I have a couple other questions to put out there for some responses.....How are most applicants preparing for the Numeracy and Literacy tests and what has been the time frame in the past that the MFS advertise for recruitment to when they actually start testing applicants?
Cheers
Quote from: Bolts84 on November 22, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
Thanks Ferret and USAR123 for confirming that. I have now found that info on the MFS website and will have a good read through.
I have a couple other questions to put out there for some responses.....How are most applicants preparing for the Numeracy and Literacy tests and what has been the time frame in the past that the MFS advertise for recruitment to when they actually start testing applicants?
Cheers
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When I applied the applications were opened for 2 weeks and the testing started approximately 1 month later.
I'd be ready around the time Ferret mentions ;)
It's my first time too. There are plenty of literacy and numerical tests around, you can find this sort of stuff on the web. There is also a course that TAFE offers, specifally around this testing aswell, but i think it runs for about 6 months. My mate did this course and he is now in.
That's interesting around the feedback part. Having interviewed plenty of people in the past in my current line of work, the most i've done is about 15 over two days and it gets a bit hazy remembering that many.
Ferret, was it the interview they didn't pass you on, or did they say anything about the aptitude and profiling as part of the reason? I've heard the feedback isn't great, but if you don't know what the work on.... hmm.
Quote from: Zander on November 23, 2010, 06:08:27 AM
I'd be ready around the time Ferret mentions ;)
It's my first time too. There are plenty of literacy and numerical tests around, you can find this sort of stuff on the web. There is also a course that TAFE offers, specifally around this testing aswell, but i think it runs for about 6 months. My mate did this course and he is now in.
That's interesting around the feedback part. Having interviewed plenty of people in the past in my current line of work, the most i've done is about 15 over two days and it gets a bit hazy remembering that many.
Ferret, was it the interview they didn't pass you on, or did they say anything about the aptitude and profiling as part of the reason? I've heard the feedback isn't great, but if you don't know what the work on.... hmm.
Hey Zander, it was Usar that was saying he didnt pass the interview and received little feedback. I was lucky enough to pass mine.
oops, that's what you get when you're doing a million things at work and typing quickly.
how was your experience for the interview process though? can you give us newbies and idea of what it will be like?
I would say late January early February buy that would be a complete guess
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Thanks Ferret. Sounds like I'll be pushing a zimmer by the time I get my first stab. Is there any age restrictions? I'm 33 now, so will potentially be mid 30's by the time I can apply.
Thanks
KPC
Quote from: King Prawn Curry on November 23, 2010, 08:04:13 PM
I would say late January early February buy that would be a complete guess
Thanks Ferret. Sounds like I'll be pushing a zimmer by the time I get my first stab. Is there any age restrictions? I'm 33 now, so will potentially be mid 30's by the time I can apply.
Thanks
KPC
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No age restrictions, in the last few years there has been about 10 blokes in there 40's get in. 49 is the oldest i know of
Can anyone please tell me where I can find a copy of the PID on the SAMFS website?
Go to the MFS homepage and up the top right corner type PID in the search box. It is the first item on the list.
Cheers
Heard a rumour the license may be changing back to MR for recruitment and then it is employees responisibility to upgrade to HR in first year in job. Might be an idea to check with human resources before going out and getting HR for application.
Quote from: Ferret on November 25, 2010, 11:40:04 AM
Heard a rumour the license may be changing back to MR for recruitment and then it is employees responisibility to upgrade to HR in first year in job. Might be an idea to check with human resources before going out and getting HR for application.
That would right as I have just finished my HR licence! O well it's done now and don't need to worry about it!
Quote from: Bolts84 on November 25, 2010, 12:40:26 PM
Quote from: Ferret on November 25, 2010, 11:40:04 AM
Heard a rumour the license may be changing back to MR for recruitment and then it is employees responisibility to upgrade to HR in first year in job. Might be an idea to check with human resources before going out and getting HR for application.
That would right as I have just finished my HR licence! O well it's done now and don't need to worry about it!
Not sure how true it is, just something I heard
i got told the same thing the other weekend. apprently because too many people were going out and getting hr licences and never using them
I wonder if I can get a refund from getting my HR licence haha, it cost a bomb.
The current drill squad should be due to graduate any time soon yeah?
That's right Citizen, only 3 weeks left. Our Graduation is on the 17th of December. We are doing response drills at the moment and going up to Brukunga week after next.
Has anyone heard any latest news when the applications may open in 2011.
hey bolts how was brukunga? i thought it was gr8 did u? looking forward to friday? i am, i guess were in the best job in the world!!!!!!
good luck for friday all you new recruits, stay safe and hpoe to see you in the job next year
Quote from: F7 on December 15, 2010, 08:00:24 PM
hey bolts how was brukunga? i thought it was gr8 did u? looking forward to friday? i am, i guess were in the best job in the world!!!!!!
What shifts did you and the rest of your squad get??
out of curiosty how does the shift system work? do you do a different station each week or is it just once you are in 1 location you are there for 6mths?
Quote from: Andrew K on December 16, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
out of curiosty how does the shift system work? do you do a different station each week or is it just once you are in 1 location you are there for 6mths?
2 days shifts then 2 night shifts then 4 days off. There is A, B,C and D shift. When you come out of recruits you put your first 3 station preferences down in order from 1-3. Then you will be a reliever(cover sick leave, annual leave etc) until there is a vacancy at your number 1 preference. This can take 4 or 5 years in some cases. But once you get to your prefered station you can stay there for as long as you want eg 10 years. But if you are promoted to Station officer(minimum 9 years in job i think) you change shift and station.
The SAMFS web site has been updated with the new Position Information Document for the 2011 recruitment course. Applications still not open yet but can't be far off. The PID has some interesting changes to the minimum entry requirements. If you are thinking about applying I suggest you read it. Good luck.
Quote from: bolts on February 02, 2011, 09:31:36 PM
The SAMFS web site has been updated with the new Position Information Document for the 2011 recruitment course. Applications still not open yet but can't be far off. The PID has some interesting changes to the minimum entry requirements. If you are thinking about applying I suggest you read it. Good luck.
Looks like license is back to MR and no longer need the computer skills certificate
Looks like testing sequence has changed as well.
Online application;
Personality profiling and numeracy and
literacy tests; click here for example questions
Physical aptitude tests; click here for more detail
Interview and work reference; click here for more detail
National Criminal History Record Check;
Medical examination; click here for more detail.
Looks as though we don't need the certificate for MS Word and Outlook?? Haha I am booked in for that test tomorrow morning. Great timing.
Quote from: wicky on February 03, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
Looks like testing sequence has changed as well.
Online application;
Personality profiling and numeracy and
literacy tests; click here for example questions
Physical aptitude tests; click here for more detail
Interview and work reference; click here for more detail
National Criminal History Record Check;
Medical examination; click here for more detail.
Quote from: wicky on February 03, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
Looks like testing sequence has changed as well.
Online application;
Personality profiling and numeracy and
literacy tests; click here for example questions
Physical aptitude tests; click here for more detail
Interview and work reference; click here for more detail
National Criminal History Record Check;
Medical examination; click here for more detail.
Couldnt see them running the Pat2 before the interview. Would be testing 100+ people
Quote from: Ferret on February 03, 2011, 08:24:21 PM
Couldnt see them running the Pat2 before the interview. Would be testing 100+ people
For my curosity, wouldn't it be easier to physically test alot of people than interview them ?
Interviewing a 100+ people would take alot of time & effort....
Having done the PAT2 late last year it does take up allot of time and resources only testing one applicant at a time. Interviews appeared to have three interviews running at the one time.
Quote from: bajdas on February 04, 2011, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: Ferret on February 03, 2011, 08:24:21 PM
Couldnt see them running the Pat2 before the interview. Would be testing 100+ people
For my curosity, wouldn't it be easier to physically test alot of people than interview them ?
Interviewing a 100+ people would take alot of time & effort....
Quote from: Citizen on February 04, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
Having done the PAT2 late last year it does take up allot of time and resources only testing one applicant at a time. Interviews appeared to have three interviews running at the one time.
Quote from: bajdas on February 04, 2011, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: Ferret on February 03, 2011, 08:24:21 PM
Couldnt see them running the Pat2 before the interview. Would be testing 100+ people
For my curosity, wouldn't it be easier to physically test alot of people than interview them ?
Interviewing a 100+ people would take alot of time & effort....
I would be 99.9% sure they will interview before pat2. All the tests are pass/fail except the interview(this is where the rankng somes in). They usually interview about 150 people. Would take them about a month to pat2 this number. I think the list on the SAMFS website of testing is just a list and not in any particular order
Full-Time Firefighters
Advance Notice
Applications for Full Time Firefighters with the South Australian Metropolitan Fire Service (MFS) will open at 9.00am, 12 March 2011, and close at 5.00pm Australian Central Daylight Time, 25 March 2011. Applications will not be accepted prior to 12 March 2011.
Positions are available at the following locations:
Adelaide Metropolitan stations
Southern Operations in Mount Gambier (day work)
Northern Operations in Port Pirie (shift work)
Please note there are changes to the Minimum Entry Requirements ie Driver's Licence and Computer Skills. Applicants must download and read the Full-Time Firefighter Position Information Document (PID).
Here we go again!
any idea hw long it is between applications closing and the start of the testing?
Quote from: Andrew K on February 12, 2011, 08:42:17 AM
any idea hw long it is between applications closing and the start of the testing?
i would say about 2-3 weeks
Does anyone have any idea from when the applications are accepted to when the first recruit course will start.
Quote from: MRF on February 14, 2011, 05:49:12 PM
Does anyone have any idea from when the applications are accepted to when the first recruit course will start.
June/July, depending on how many squads they plan on running this year
Quote from: Ferret on February 14, 2011, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: MRF on February 14, 2011, 05:49:12 PM
Does anyone have any idea from when the applications are accepted to when the first recruit course will start.
June/July, depending on how many squads they plan on running this year
Hey Ferret you seem to be in the know. How many squads are they taking this year?
Quote from: MRF on February 15, 2011, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: Ferret on February 14, 2011, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: MRF on February 14, 2011, 05:49:12 PM
Does anyone have any idea from when the applications are accepted to when the first recruit course will start.
June/July, depending on how many squads they plan on running this year
Hey Ferret you seem to be in the know. How many squads are they taking this year?
Have heard a rumour of 3 but it is only a rumour. Will depend on retirements i presume
Latest info from website.
The proposed schedule* for the next Recruitment and Selection process is:
Pat 1Test - commence week of 11 April 2011
Personality and Ability Tests - commence week of 2 May 2011
Interviews - commence week of 6 June 2011
Pat 2 Test - commence week of 11 July 2011
Medicals/Uniform fit out - commence week of 18 July 2011
Recruit course commences 12 September 2011.
* Please note, that this schedule may be subject to change at short notice
Quote from: wicky on February 16, 2011, 03:47:23 PM
Latest info from website.
The proposed schedule* for the next Recruitment and Selection process is:
Pat 1Test - commence week of 11 April 2011
Personality and Ability Tests - commence week of 2 May 2011
Interviews - commence week of 6 June 2011
Pat 2 Test - commence week of 11 July 2011
Medicals/Uniform fit out - commence week of 18 July 2011
Recruit course commences 12 September 2011.
* Please note, that this schedule may be subject to change at short notice
By the looks of that schedule they may only be running 1 recruit course for 2011
Bugger.... guess who's in Europe from late May until 20th June :oops:
Quote from: Citizen on February 18, 2011, 11:12:31 AM
Bugger.... guess who's in Europe from late May until 20th June :oops:
Explain your situation to them at the pat1. I know a couple years ago 2 guys were overseas and they let them do the pat2 at a different time
I think i know the answer to this question but ill ask anyway. With the PAT 1 test is it only just the beep test and thats it, or is there more to it. I know that you have to get to 9.6 but do they keep it going to see who can get the highest or does it stop at 9.6.
Cheers
Quote from: antony on February 24, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
I think i know the answer to this question but ill ask anyway. With the PAT 1 test is it only just the beep test and thats it, or is there more to it. I know that you have to get to 9.6 but do they keep it going to see who can get the highest or does it stop at 9.6.
Cheers
At the pat 1 you will have to show your first aid certificate and drivers license, then once you reach 9.6 the test is over. All the testing is pass/fail until the interview when you are ranked against other applicants. Not sure how they can rank accurately when there is 5 or 6 different panels doing the interviews but with the high number they interview(100+) it is the only way
So how do they decide who goes to which stn at the end of recruit training??
Especiallt Pt Pirie and Mt Gambier
Does anyone know what constitutes a pass or fail in the aptitude tests? do you need 100% for a pass or is it a lower percentage like 80% or something ???
Quote from: robin14 on February 27, 2011, 06:08:50 PM
So how do they decide who goes to which stn at the end of recruit training??
Especiallt Pt Pirie and Mt Gambier
Towards the end of the recruit training you have to fill in a station preference form with your 3 preffered stations on it. Until a spot becomes available at the stations you are on the relieving circuit covering sick leave and holidays. Usually the people with the lowest cab rank going into recruits are told before hand that they will be going to a regional station.
Quote from: robin14 on February 27, 2011, 06:08:50 PM
So how do they decide who goes to which stn at the end of recruit training??
Especiallt Pt Pirie and Mt Gambier
Offers of employment will be conditional on the following criteria. Please read this information carefully.
The highest ranking eighteen (18) candidates will be placed on a global cab-rank reflecting their order of merit. These eighteen candidates working in an order of merit from number one to number eighteen, will be offered employment in the MFS. Should any of these candidates have more than one preference of location designated, then they shall be entitled to choose their preference. A candidate in this cab-rank shall be entitled to choose their designated preference so long as that location has not been filled in entirety. When a location has been filled in entirety, a candidate who is in this cab-rank and is offered employment, will have that filled location removed from their preferences. A candidate may still choose from their remaining location preferences if applicable.
Should any location still require staff at the exhaustion of this global cab-rank the following process will be followed:
The highest remaining candidate on the MFS cab-rank shall be offered employment. Should that candidate decline the offer, the next person in order of merit on the cab-rank shall be offered employment. This process shall be followed until all required MFS positions are filled.
The highest remaining candidate on the Port Pirie cab-rank shall be offered employment. Should that candidate decline the offer, the next person in order of merit on the cab-rank shall be offered employment. This process shall be followed until all required Port Pirie positions are filled.
The highest remaining candidate on the Mount Gambier cab-rank shall be offered employment. Should that candidate decline the offer, the next person in order of merit on the cab-rank shall be offered employment. This process shall be followed until all required Mount Gambier positions are filled.
Any candidate on any cab-rank, upon declining an offer of employment in any location, shall remain on any other cab-rank for any other location.
Quote from: Gfoss on February 27, 2011, 08:41:41 PM
Does anyone know what constitutes a pass or fail in the aptitude tests? do you need 100% for a pass or is it a lower percentage like 80% or something ???
It wouldnt be 100%, I would say around 70%. Think the personality profiling is where a lot of candidates come unstuck because they try to answer the way they think the MFS would want but they get found out because there is so many ridiculous questions
Quote from: Jase! on February 28, 2011, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: robin14 on February 27, 2011, 06:08:50 PM
So how do they decide who goes to which stn at the end of recruit training??
Especiallt Pt Pirie and Mt Gambier
Towards the end of the recruit training you have to fill in a station preference form with your 3 preffered stations on it. Until a spot becomes available at the stations you are on the relieving circuit covering sick leave and holidays. Usually the people with the lowest cab rank going into recruits are told before hand that they will be going to a regional station.
Those recruits that are being posted to Mt Gambier or Pirie will definitely be told before accepting the job offer that they will more than likely going to a regional station, especially Mt Gambier because you would have to relocate whereas Pirie you could still live in Adelaide
When does the "Job Offer" actually happen?
Is it the same time you start recruit course as technically you are now their employee?
Or do they wait till the end of your course and basically you have no choice to go to say Mount Gambier or can you stay on the relieving roster till there is a postion you want?
Cheers
Quote from: Numpty on February 28, 2011, 11:39:16 AM
When does the "Job Offer" actually happen?
Is it the same time you start recruit course as technically you are now their employee?
Or do they wait till the end of your course and basically you have no choice to go to say Mount Gambier or can you stay on the relieving roster till there is a postion you want?
Cheers
You will know well before recruit course starts. When you find out you are offered a job they will tell you that if you accept you will be stationed either Pirie or Mt Gambier
I'm curious to know what happens in Mt Gambier at night time? The shift only goes from 8am to 4pm with no mention of night shift. Does the CFS do the night call outs??
Gfoss the station in Mount Gambier has both a day time crew which runs from 8 am to 4pm as well as retained crew that covers after hours call outs
Was just wondering what a recruit firefighters wage is I had a look on the ufu website but it dosnt make sense to me it says it's based on a 38 hr week but the 10/14 roster averages more then that and that would make a recruit firie in FRNSW is paid as much as a Snr firie in the mfs dosnt make sense to me at all. Also wat are the time frames when moving through the ranks I can't seem to find any info on it
Quote from: robin14 on March 08, 2011, 09:06:59 PM
Was just wondering what a recruit firefighters wage is I had a look on the ufu website but it dosnt make sense to me it says it's based on a 38 hr week but the 10/14 roster averages more then that and that would make a recruit firie in FRNSW is paid as much as a Snr firie in the mfs dosnt make sense to me at all. Also wat are the time frames when moving through the ranks I can't seem to find any info on it
Recruit firefighters(14 weeks at training mon-fri no shifts) approx: $40,000
4th class(after completing 14 weeks training to 1 year of service) $59,000
Basically every year of service you move up a level provided all your Staff Development Framework is completed.
4th class then 3rd class then 2nd class then 1st class(3 levels here so 3 years) then Senior where there is 2 levels. A senior is on about $75,000 from 4th class the pay rises approx $2,5000 a year
QuoteBasically every year of service you move up a level provided all your Staff Development Framework is completed.
4th class then 3rd class then 2nd class then 1st class(3 levels here so 3 years) then Senior where there is 2 levels. A senior is on about $75,000 from 4th class the pay rises approx $2,5000 a year
actually 6 yrs to senior provided SDF is completed
The online application form is a standard job application form for all jobs. Do you have to include the cover letter and additional documents that's on there or do you only need the resume? The MFS site only mentions you needing to attach a resume. Im sure more info is better than not enough but if i dont have to add a letter i wont.
Quote from: Gfoss on March 12, 2011, 11:45:46 AM
The online application form is a standard job application form for all jobs. Do you have to include the cover letter and additional documents that's on there or do you only need the resume? The MFS site only mentions you needing to attach a resume. Im sure more info is better than not enough but if i dont have to add a letter i wont.
Pretty sure you dont need to include a cover letter or additional documents, drivers license and first aid has been checked at pat1 in the past. Call the lady from Locher and ask to be sure. You dont want to bugger anything up because they are ruthless with culling people. Good luck
So how many on here have put a application in or are going to. :-)
Actually in Mt Gambier the day staff work Mon-Fri 8.30-4.30 and not public holidays. The retained members respond to calls 24/7. The day crew effectively only staff 1 appliance.
Quote from: wicky on March 16, 2011, 04:00:59 PM
So how many on here have put a application in or are going to. :-)
sent mine in on sunday :-D
thinking about it, at the moment i'm just geting over a knee injury so it makes the fitness for the beep test a bit hard
Quote from: wicky on March 16, 2011, 04:00:59 PM
So how many on here have put a application in or are going to. :-)
Yeah sent mine in on saturday. step one complete!! :-)
G'day guys I am new to posting on this forum. Basic rundown is I have been SES for about 8 months now, disappeared to Qld when the floods happened.
I know it says you need an MR licence but do you need it on application or is that something for after recruits?
i think its a must for application and has to be upgraded to HR licence within a year of being accepted
Quote from: crossy on March 17, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
i think its a must for application and has to be upgraded to HR licence within a year of being accepted
Yeah you have to get MR before applications close or wont be accepted.
So how does the wage system work do you get a roster allowance or something cause I'm looking at the mfs wages on the ufu website and a 4th class firie is on 822 a week which isn't 55,000 a yr
Quote from: robin14 on March 18, 2011, 01:17:58 AM
So how does the wage system work do you get a roster allowance or something cause I'm looking at the mfs wages on the ufu website and a 4th class firie is on 822 a week which isn't 55,000 a yr
Yeah there is shift allowances etc. It is actually closer to $60,000 now with the last EBA increase
4th class is 59,800 p/a, all penalties are rolled in.
It concerns me that so many of the questions asked here in this thread are easily answered if you read the information that SAMFS provide on their website.
If you want to apply for a job, one would think that at the very least you would be well versed with the requirements?
Hi Guys, new to the forum but i've been reading the threads for a while. Submitted my application last Sat but as i understand it it would be a few weeks yet before we hear back.....fingers crossed to everyone applying!
I need a bit of guidance if thats ok, I'm hoping to compete in an overseas cricket tournament with my club and the latest i can fly out is the 12th April. As you can see that only gives me the option to take the bleep test on the Monday if i'm lucky enough to get through and if by some miracal I get a spot on that Monday. I wasn't sure about approaching recruitment about this as I didn't want to do anything that would be detrimental to my application. Getting into SAMFS is my priority, I haven't booked flights or anything yet but didn't know if there was any hope or if I should just tell my team now. Do you think I could approach them? It would mean contacting them probably before I even find out if i've pasted the application stage.
thinking about it, at the moment i'm just geting over a knee injury so it makes the fitness for the beep test a bit hard
Know how you feel, did the last pat 1 four weeks after knee operation at the last intake. Only got to 7.2
Every thing is pass/fail, if you can't do it - bad luck, no bending for anyone.
well aware of that i'm just holding off the application for as long as possible to see if i can manage it if not theres not a great deal of point putting it in.
Quote from: Tammey on March 18, 2011, 03:19:00 PM
Hi Guys, new to the forum but i've been reading the threads for a while. Submitted my application last Sat but as i understand it it would be a few weeks yet before we hear back.....fingers crossed to everyone applying!
I need a bit of guidance if thats ok, I'm hoping to compete in an overseas cricket tournament with my club and the latest i can fly out is the 12th April. As you can see that only gives me the option to take the bleep test on the Monday if i'm lucky enough to get through and if by some miracal I get a spot on that Monday. I wasn't sure about approaching recruitment about this as I didn't want to do anything that would be detrimental to my application. Getting into SAMFS is my priority, I haven't booked flights or anything yet but didn't know if there was any hope or if I should just tell my team now. Do you think I could approach them? It would mean contacting them probably before I even find out if i've pasted the application stage.
Call Mara Potticary SAMFS Human resources and ask if its possible. Pretty sure everyone who meets the criteria eg. truck license, first aid etc passes the application stage
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Every thing is pass/fail, if you can't do it - bad luck, no bending for anyone.
Except PAT 2...
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Every thing is pass/fail, if you can't do it - bad luck, no bending for anyone.
Except PAT 2...
And interview
Call Mara Potticary SAMFS Human resources and ask if its possible. Pretty sure everyone who meets the criteria eg. truck license, first aid etc passes the application stage
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Thanks for that, i will give her a ring Monday morning.
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And interview
You have misread my reply. As has been mentioned, some people seem to be asking questions that are answered on the SAMFS site!
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Every thing is pass/fail, if you can't do it - bad luck, no bending for anyone.
Except PAT 2...
And interview
You have misread my reply. As has been mentioned, some people seem to be asking questions that are answered on the SAMFS site!
I'm really surprised that they let you re run the PAT 2. Anyone know why there is this leniency for PAT 2?
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Not sure why, but hardly anyone fails it anyway. You can watch the dvd of the testing and pretty much practise most of the tests in some form
You have misread my reply. As has been mentioned, some people seem to be asking questions that are answered on the SAMFS site!
I'm really surprised that they let you re run the PAT 2. Anyone know why there is this leniency for PAT 2?
Hi guys -
I have been watching this forum for a few months now and thought I would join in! I have applied for the first time and am doing everything I can to get in 'first go'. At age 25 I am hoping I am not seen as a tad too young! The main concern for me is the aptitude testing/personality profiling. Of course I have looked over and over the example one that is on the MFS website, however is anyone aware of more practice questions/how to prepare for this? Also from anyone's experience of the past, are you under extreme time pressure to get this testing done? (is it easy to run out of time)
After looking into the career for the last couple of years, visiting fire stations, speaking to people etc, it seems to me that even if I do not get in first go, persistence eventually pays off? Can anyone comment on that from their experiences.
Thanks and good luck everyone!
as for the persistance thing, i will let you know if it pays off if i get in after attempt number five. Dont be too down on yourself if you dont get in, not a very high percentage of people get in first crack
25 will not be seen as too young, plenty of guys around 22 getting in last couple of years because the MFS has realised by recruiting older guys for a long time the fire service now has an average age of about 50.
As far as the testing goes, from memory the times given for the aptitude tests are reasonably short so if you hesitate too much you can run out of time. They are designed to make you think quickly. The examples on the website are very basic, ones in test are slightly harder. If they use similar tests to a few years ago the mathematics involved practical questions eg: If you are driving to a fire 20 km from station and you are travelling at a constant speed of 80kmph, how long will it take to get there? And if you are using 100 litres of water a minute, how long will a 650 litre tank last?
It also involved writing a report on an incident so maybe look up some examples of that.They change the testing quite regularly so it isnt easier for repeat applicants.
Will be interesting to see how many applicants they get this year now that you only need MR truck license and computer skills certificate.
how many applicants would they get on average?
Quote from: crossy on March 20, 2011, 04:05:46 PM
how many applicants would they get on average?
600+
Gasman - As this is your 5th time in applying, can you give anything away in terms of what your stumbling block has been? Therefore, have you made the interview each time and from there you have not gone further or was it the aptitude testing etc? I hope you make it through mate; sounds like your committment deserves it!
i have been cab ranked before and i have been interviewed every time. The process changes slightly every time so any information i could give you could be completely wrong. i know i am not far from getting ranked again, just need to impress them a bit more at the interview i guess. You are only ranked based on the outcome of your interview supposedly so study up for it as you would your apptitude test
Gasman - are calculators permitted in the aptitude test?
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Gasman - are calculators permitted in the aptitude test?
Are you serious?
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Gasman - are calculators permitted in the aptitude test?
Yes and you can use a dictionary and thesaurus for the spelling and comprehension. :-o :?
Yeah man! i took a calcualtor to mine! it was awesome, then they give 5 mins at the end of each test to discuss with everyone your answers and change the ones you think you got incorrect. Also if you can get your hands on the answer book your allowed to bring that in too!
Haha! Didnt think it was a silly question considering all exams I have been in @ uni, trade school etc say bring in calcs etc.. Prob a good thing that no calcs then as it means the maths questions cannot be that hard....
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Haha! Didnt think it was a silly question considering all exams I have been in @ uni, trade school etc say bring in calcs etc.. Prob a good thing that no calcs then as it means the maths questions cannot be that hard....
Do yourself a favour, go to the library and find some aptitude test books. It varies each time so what you study for might not even be in the test. Be prepared for anything.
Hi all and good luck to all that have applied. Apart from the library does anyone know where else you can get some practise questions for both tests? Have heard that there is 700 applicants and still growing. Should be contacted early April about the shuttle so have been told.
Quote from: Scottie on March 23, 2011, 07:54:57 AM
Hi all and good luck to all that have applied. Apart from the library does anyone know where else you can get some practise questions for both tests? Have heard that there is 700 applicants and still growing. Should be contacted early April about the shuttle so have been told.
Just google "aptitude testing" and you should find a heap.
cheers Ferret. Will do that and hopefully get started. First time at having a go. Should have done this ten years ago when Dads mate said I should. He has just retired after 33 years. Said best thing he ever did was joining.
Scottie
Its never too late scotty.. How old are u mate? Im also going first time, wish I did this 5 years ago wen I was 20!
Quote from: BT085 on March 24, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
Its never too late scotty.. How old are u mate? Im also going first time, wish I did this 5 years ago wen I was 20!
25 is a good age to get in. You are mature enough and have been out in the real world for long enough to realise how good the job is.
I am 37 years young. About ten years ago Dads mate said i should give it a go but at the time I was earning nearly $10,000 more than he was. Was younger and starting a family. Four kids later I wish I took his advise. Working three different jobs and had enough. But have decided to give it a shot as it will always be a what if I don,t.
800+ applicants.
hope you all sent in your scanned qualifications etc.
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Friend of mine has been a fire fighter for two years now and tells me it is the best job he has ever had and is not the best paying job he has had but would not give it up for quids.
Have been doing some running with him and I am no where near his fitness. He is the same age as me and just loves the idea of being fit spending time with the kids and wife.
Any way I wish you all the best and if you don,t succeed keep on trying
how many of those 800 would they take to pat 1?
Most, only the people how stuff up the application miss out.
I think over the last few intakes about 50 stuff up the application or don't have the correct paperwork.
Quote from: tft on March 26, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
Most, only the people how stuff up the application miss out.
I think over the last few intakes about 50 stuff up the application or don't have the correct paperwork.
The Pat1 will not remove many applicants either. At a guess i would say absolute maximum 50 would fail it(more likely about 20). If you fail the pat1 then you were obviously not serious about joining or got injured close to the testing because it is not a high level to get to and you can practise it plenty of times before hand to make sure you can reach the 9.6
With the numeracy and literacy test how do they work out the 100-150 people they interview? Is it worked by an average score then they take the first 100-150 people in that average score? Take it they let you know by email or do they actually ring you?
Quote from: Scottie on March 27, 2011, 12:41:57 PM
With the numeracy and literacy test how do they work out the 100-150 people they interview? Is it worked by an average score then they take the first 100-150 people in that average score? Take it they let you know by email or do they actually ring you?
the pyschometric test eliminates a lot of people.
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With the numeracy and literacy test how do they work out the 100-150 people they interview? Is it worked by an average score then they take the first 100-150 people in that average score? Take it they let you know by email or do they actually ring you?
the pyschometric test eliminates a lot of people.
The test eliminates lots of people due to the high pass mark that is required. It is not an average score that decides the numbers. It used to be a score of 90% or higher, although I'm not sure if it still is now? The pass mark may come down a little, pending on how many drill squads are being taken.
Quote from: Scottie on March 27, 2011, 12:41:57 PM
With the numeracy and literacy test how do they work out the 100-150 people they interview? Is it worked by an average score then they take the first 100-150 people in that average score? Take it they let you know by email or do they actually ring you?
They will probably just email all test dates until after interviews. Dont expect too much info during the whole process, they dont like to give too much away.
Cheers for the updates. Just hate the waiting game. My mate said to me not to be dis-hearted if don't make the 18 but said try and make sure in the top 36 as people get called in to do the pat 2 test. He said they did not advertise but took on the next group of 18. Has anyone else heard this before?
Quote from: Scottie on March 28, 2011, 06:15:48 PM
Cheers for the updates. Just hate the waiting game. My mate said to me not to be dis-hearted if don't make the 18 but said try and make sure in the top 36 as people get called in to do the pat 2 test. He said they did not advertise but took on the next group of 18. Has anyone else heard this before?
They only ever do 1 lot of applications per year. After the interviews they will rank the applicants from 1 to 100. Then as the need recruits they will take the first 1-18 then if they need another squad they will take 19-36. This is presuming no one fails the pat2 medical or police clearance. If they need 18 they will prob get 20 to do pat2 incase anyone fails. It is common for them to take 2 or 3 squads from one lot of applications.
Thanks Ferret. My aim is to be in the top 18 as i am sure so is everyone else, but knowing if you get in the top 54 there is still chance of being called up. As of Monday will be checking email daily so bring it on.
Good luck Scottie.
I called locher on monday and Abi said there was about 1000 applications.
1000 applicants!! what a joke!! Why did they have to go and make it easier to apply? they were already getting 300 plus applicants for potentially only 18 positions. surely that was enough. People are going to get rejected for the smallest things now.
Hey guys, I can confirm you get cab ranked from the interview process and they then take people off the rank one drill squad at a time. I was ranked about 67th last intake and recently passed the PAT2 late last year. Unfortunately I then missed out making the final drill squad by 1 position! Obviously only 18 people will make the first squad however it's not all bad news, just need to be ranked say in the top 50. Thats what I am aiming for. (thats if I pass the PAT1 hehe)
Quote from: Gfoss on March 30, 2011, 03:12:25 PM
1000 applicants!! what a joke!! Why did they have to go and make it easier to apply? they were already getting 300 plus applicants for potentially only 18 positions. surely that was enough. People are going to get rejected for the smallest things now.
Isn't that the point? Get the best applicants from as wide a range as possible?
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1000 applicants!! what a joke!! Why did they have to go and make it easier to apply? they were already getting 300 plus applicants for potentially only 18 positions. surely that was enough. People are going to get rejected for the smallest things now.
Isn't that the point? Get the best applicants from as wide a range as possible?
Yeah i totally understand that, I'm just annoyed that they made it easier for people. I along with heaps of others , put in the effort to get HR license and computing certificate which now dont need. I know you eventually will need your HR anyway, i just hope they take it into consideration when culling people.
It wasn't fair to make applicants fork out $1500-$2000 for HR when you don't even need it to drive the majority of the trucks, in the slight hope that they may get a job out of it. The new way is much better,although now that it is easier and doesn't require much effort to apply a lot of the extra applicants will go in half hearted and under prepared.
Did anyone put in for Pirie station as well as Metro
yea i put in for both.
Quote from: crossy on March 31, 2011, 03:42:15 PM
yea i put in for both.
You would be mad not to put in for Pirie. You can still live in Adelaide and just drive there for your shift. Its only 2 years there i think
according to web site all country postings are for five years now. Still, five years of knowing where you are going every tour is not a bad thing. Stability!!
Will there be any preference for the applicants that put down Metro, Pirie and Mt Gambier?
Quote from: Bolts84 on March 31, 2011, 05:42:52 PM
Will there be any preference for the applicants that put down Metro, Pirie and Mt Gambier?
One would hope so, aint nowhere else to go apart from those :-D
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Will there be any preference for the applicants that put down Metro, Pirie and Mt Gambier?
One would hope so, aint nowhere else to go apart from those :-D
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Quote from: Bolts84 on March 31, 2011, 05:42:52 PM
Will there be any preference for the applicants that put down Metro, Pirie and Mt Gambier?
One would hope so, aint nowhere else to go apart from those :-D
Understand that, but i was meaning will be there any preference for those who selected all three in the application to those who only selected Metro / Pirie?
Will depend on where you are ranked after the interview I would think. Read the info in the Samfs website, it explains how it will work
Quote from: Ferret on March 31, 2011, 06:37:19 PM
Will depend on where you are ranked after the interview I would think. Read the info in the Samfs website, it explains how it will work
Thanks Ferret. Have read the website plenty of times and understand how the cab-rank system works.
Any idea when dates and times for the Pat 1 will be announced to the applicants?
I said no to Mount Gambier but yes to Metro and Pire. Only because have family here and 3 of my 4 kids are at school. Not sure if i want to take kids out of school here. Friends they said yes to all three even that they do not want to go to Mount Gambier. They said you just have to make sure you are high in ranking to make sure you miss out on it. Think the truth is better as if you make it and then say no cause you don't want to go no fair on others.
Quote from: Scottie on April 02, 2011, 09:39:44 AM
I said no to Mount Gambier but yes to Metro and Pire. Only because have family here and 3 of my 4 kids are at school. Not sure if i want to take kids out of school here. Friends they said yes to all three even that they do not want to go to Mount Gambier. They said you just have to make sure you are high in ranking to make sure you miss out on it. Think the truth is better as if you make it and then say no cause you don't want to go no fair on others.
I said no to Mt Gambier as well and yes to the others. My wife is at uni and i run a business which i intend to do on the side if i get in so wouldn't be possible in Mt Gambier. I doubt they would use it against you. Like you said, just need to be high in the rank!
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I said no to Mount Gambier but yes to Metro and Pire. Only because have family here and 3 of my 4 kids are at school. Not sure if i want to take kids out of school here. Friends they said yes to all three even that they do not want to go to Mount Gambier. They said you just have to make sure you are high in ranking to make sure you miss out on it. Think the truth is better as if you make it and then say no cause you don't want to go no fair on others.
I said no to Mt Gambier as well and yes to the others. My wife is at uni and i run a business which i intend to do on the side if i get in so wouldn't be possible in Mt Gambier. I doubt they would use it against you. Like you said, just need to be high in the rank!
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Yeah just make sure you are high in the rankings cos that's easy to do and you will be the only ones aiming for that. Don't put ya life on hold, it's a bit of a lotto with 1000 people applying b
There will be 1000 applicants that will pick all three preferences if they think it will give them an advantage, so you guys have just as much a chance as the next person.
I'd check your email, looks like they have replied. Just reading the information now.
Yep got mine PAT 1 test 1.30pm 12th April :-D
Received mine today 13th at 9.30. Let the fun begin.
OK panicked just a little bit when i heard people were getting their emails and still nothing in my in-box. If anyone else is in the same boat i just rang the recruitment office and they stated that the emails will be coming out all week and possibly more today. Obviously that makes sense seeing they did receive over 1000 applications but its nice to have the mind put at ease.....for the time being anyway. Fingers still crossed!
Quote from: Tammey on April 04, 2011, 01:21:03 PM
OK panicked just a little bit when i heard people were getting their emails and still nothing in my in-box. If anyone else is in the same boat i just rang the recruitment office and they stated that the emails will be coming out all week and possibly more today. Obviously that makes sense seeing they did receive over 1000 applications but its nice to have the mind put at ease.....for the time being anyway. Fingers still crossed!
Well if you had the MR license and First aid certificate you are pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Pat1 i think.
Good luck everyone
Quote from: Ferret on April 04, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
Well if you had the MR license and First aid certificate you are pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Pat1 i think.
Thanks Ferret, still nothing this morning so I gave them a call. Seems they forgot a letter in my email address and had sent my email out on Monday! At least now I know and its all sorted. Phew!
Quote from: Scottie on April 04, 2011, 01:19:37 PM
Received mine today 13th at 9.30. Let the fun begin.
I'll be there with you then Scottie. My PAT1 is then also. Will be good morning / few minutes.
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Received mine today 13th at 9.30. Let the fun begin.
I'll be there with you then Scottie. My PAT1 is then also. Will be good morning / few minutes.
Heard out of the 1000 applicants 700 made it to beep test. So 300 didnt have their s$%t together in application.
wow didnt think the application was that hard to work out.... :| anybody else running 8am tues??
How did people go in their beep tests? All well I hope.
Mate had test today at eight. Said he was in and out in no time and has next step on 2nd of May. Be glad to join him
Heard the same news Ferret. All i can say it just makes it a little easier for the rest of us. Odds a little better. Surely no one fails the Pat1 test.
Killed it this morning :)
ALso the interview dates have been shifted, suits me perfectly.
Quote from: Scottie on April 11, 2011, 11:59:41 AM
Heard the same news Ferret. All i can say it just makes it a little easier for the rest of us. Odds a little better. Surely no one fails the Pat1 test.
Maybe 20 will fail. Some dumb arises who don't prepare.
Passed my test this morning :-D Bring on the 2nd May.
Got mine on Friday at 13:30.....
Lads,
Received my invitation to the Personality Profiling (PP) and Firefighter Abilities (FA) Test after PAT 1 today. The testing goes for a total of 5 hours! Can anyone tell me the split of time between PP and FA? Also, with FA what are the approximate time splits between Writing Ability Test, Basic Arithmetic & Numeracy Test and Reading & Reasoning Ability Test? Any information greatly appreciated.
Mikey
Quote from: mikey on April 11, 2011, 09:13:54 PM
Lads,
Received my invitation to the Personality Profiling (PP) and Firefighter Abilities (FA) Test after PAT 1 today. The testing goes for a total of 5 hours! Can anyone tell me the split of time between PP and FA? Also, with FA what are the approximate time splits between Writing Ability Test, Basic Arithmetic & Numeracy Test and Reading & Reasoning Ability Test? Any information greatly appreciated.
Mikey
I did it a few years ago now, think the PP was about 3 hours. Involved about 600 questions, had a headache afterwards. Just try to be consistent with your answers. As for the FA testing i think you had about 15 min for each subject. Also had to write up a report on an incident so maybe study up on how to format a report.
passed my pat 1 this morning. and if i heard right 3 of our group didnt even rock up....
Good job Crossy....well done
Normally about 8-10 Key questions in the Personality Profiling you must get correct. They have a heap of questions, but if you get one of the key questions wrong you will fail. Just answer the questions straight away for this section, don't try and think too much about the questions.
With the quick maths, story and word association I am not sure how you study for that.
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Normally about 8-10 Key questions in the Personality Profiling you must get correct. They have a heap of questions, but if you get one of the key questions wrong you will fail. Just answer the questions straight away for this section, don't try and think too much about the questions.
With the quick maths, story and word association I am not sure how you study for that.
From memory there is no right or wrong answers in the PP. Its all about your personality eg. team player, leader etc. There is a few questions that are related to political correctness. No one sees your test, it gets fed thru a computer and your personality type spits out the other end
Thanks guys.. All these little tips help. Cheers
The PP test has 8- 10 key questions, the rest is about Personality eg. team player, leader etc. There is a few questions that are related to political correctness.
All these test are like this.
With questions like this
Your desk, workbench etc. is usually neat and orderly Y or N
I would like to write a famous play or Read a book
Strange questions and a heap of them.
Word Association Test
Dog is to bird cat house fence (cat is the answer)
This test gets harder, but don't worry about the last few questions, they are filtered hard. Just marks something.
Hey I could be wrong about this years test, but most tests are very similar.
Unless the MFS have changed what they want tested, which might be possible.
Passed pat 1 today, 2 failed in first group of six, 1 didnt show at all.
Hi Lads,
Thanks, as hotfire says all these little tips are helpful. Just a question on the basic arithmetic and numeracy test - does the test include questions on long division and long multiplication? Or is it just basic mental arithmetic?
Now let's see if I can help some of you guys - I came across a Fire Service Recuitment Preparation Guide titled "Forced Entry". It cost $25 but well worth a read and has links to numerous websites with practice questions. Here is the link to purchase:
http://fireservicerecruitment.com.au/ (http://fireservicerecruitment.com.au/)
Good luck to all!
Mikey
Quote from: mikey on April 12, 2011, 06:39:12 PM
Hi Lads,
Thanks, as hotfire says all these little tips are helpful. Just a question on the basic arithmetic and numeracy test - does the test include questions on long division and long multiplication? Or is it just basic mental arithmetic?
Now let's see if I can help some of you guys - I came across a Fire Service Recuitment Preparation Guide titled "Forced Entry". It cost $25 but well worth a read and has links to numerous websites with practice questions. Here is the link to purchase:
http://fireservicerecruitment.com.au/ (http://fireservicerecruitment.com.au/)
Good luck to all!
3 years ago the maths was in sentence form. Eg if you are traveling 60km an hour to a fire that is 15km away, how long will it take to get there? So not real in depth calculations. They do get a bit harder then the example I gave
Mikey
Well i ran and completed the test today. Next stage is 5th of May. Three people never showed and one only made it to 7.4. Any way all the best to those still to run and good luck to those on to the next stage. :-D
From what I am hearing there seems to be a lot of people not showing up for the Pat1 test, as well a few failing. Anyone heard the number of applicants that have made next stage? Would have to be below 700.
When i ran my PAT 1 on Thursday i heard a FF ask a SO it was a big group running as there was 22 of us and the SO said they had to run 600 people for the PAT 1
Just a curiosity here, why the obsession with the number of people failing/passing?
Quote from: Scottie on April 17, 2011, 08:49:21 PM
From what I am hearing there seems to be a lot of people not showing up for the Pat1 test, as well a few failing. Anyone heard the number of applicants that have made next stage? Would have to be below 700.
This is what happens when they make it easier to apply, people just apply for the hell of it without having to make any real commitment. Failing the pat1 unless injured or sick is a joke. You have had a few months to train for it and it is pretty much the only test out of the process that you can practise 100%.
Lot of guys seem to be worried about the maths questions. All of the questions are multiple choice so the answer is there in front of you. Just have to make sure that you choose the correct one. Dont get hung up on one question. If you can't figure it out after a few minutes, move onto the next question. You want to make sure that you answer as many questions as possible so dont waste time on a question that you are finding hard. Best to move onto the others that you may know straight away. Haing said that, if you do reach the end of the test and you still have time, make sure you go back through your test and re-attempt the ones that you have missed.
Quote from: 6739264 on April 19, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Just a curiosity here, why the obsession with the number of people failing/passing?
The less people the better the chances. :roll:
Quote from: wicky on April 19, 2011, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on April 19, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Just a curiosity here, why the obsession with the number of people failing/passing?
The less people the better the chances. :roll:
Why not just study and train and thus make sure that no matter how many apply, you are in with a decent chance?
Its a selection process, not a lottery.
Relying on your own merits rather than attrition is certainly the best way to go about things, no?
I think most of us would be training and studying but the curiosty of knowing numbers is still there. Knowing that so many applied and a large drop in numbers just from the application to the Pat1 test is crazy (300 approx). Hearing and seeing people not turning up and some not cutting the 9.6, makes you wonder how bad these people wanted it. :? 8-) :-D
Quote from: Scottie on April 20, 2011, 09:34:01 AM
I think most of us would be training and studying but the curiosty of knowing numbers is still there. Knowing that so many applied and a large drop in numbers just from the application to the Pat1 test is crazy (300 approx). Hearing and seeing people not turning up and some not cutting the 9.6, makes you wonder how bad these people wanted it. :? 8-) :-D
At the end of the day they will still interview around 150 people so it's still tough.
That is correct and I will do my best to be part of the 150 as will everyone else, one would think.
Good luck to everyone who is doing there test next week. :-D
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Good luck to everyone who is doing there test next week.
Good luck! :?
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Posted by: Scottie
Good luck to everyone who is doing there test next week.
Good luck!
...... that basic mistake could make a big difference to your final score!
Yes that is true. Worked all long weekend, so this tells me to make sure I get a good night sleep so I can focus at a 100%.
Good luck to everyone in the exam next week, my test is on Monday morning so spending the weekend with more study! Just a quick question if anyone can help, I've been working on the 'Language' side and I'm concerned that some of the words i commonally use are spelt differently here- such as 'Humor' instead of 'Humour' and 'Color' instead of 'Colour' and 'Judgment' instead of 'Judgement'. I've been using a Aus site for commonly misspelled words and it uses the US English Dictionary. Please can anyone confirm if this is the case or if its the English Dictionary. Sorry if I'm confusing anyone.
If it uses a US dictionary then you are going to get the US spelling. EG: Humor (US) vs Humour (Aus/UK)
Quote from: Tammey on April 30, 2011, 02:27:18 PM
Good luck to everyone in the exam next week, my test is on Monday morning so spending the weekend with more study! Just a quick question if anyone can help, I've been working on the 'Language' side and I'm concerned that some of the words i commonally use are spelt differently here- such as 'Humor' instead of 'Humour' and 'Color' instead of 'Colour' and 'Judgment' instead of 'Judgement'. I've been using a Aus site for commonly misspelled words and it uses the US English Dictionary. Please can anyone confirm if this is the case or if its the English Dictionary. Sorry if I'm confusing anyone.
Make sure you look at the format for writing a report for an incident, when i did testing about 3 years ago we had to write a report.
Thanks guys for the info, head about to explode! Off to put the kettle on, clock counting down. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.
Hi Tammey, are you using stuff from the internet of library for your studying? Some employent agencies have trial questions. My mate goes on the Tuesday the 3rd and myself go on Thursday the 5th. So good luck. :-)
Hi Tammey,
How did you go? Tough going or smooth sailing?
Cheers,
Mikey
Hi all, have heard that there is 506 people left doing the current test. That is just over half of the people who first applied which is crazy I think. Also there could be two more intakes next year which will be taken from this intake so good luck.
Hi Scottie,
Thanks for the tip on study material. I was lucky enough to have some books i brought some time ago when i had to do a similar test, they really helped. I also used two websites- www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm (http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm) and www.psychometric-success.com/downloads/download-practice-tests.htm (http://www.psychometric-success.com/downloads/download-practice-tests.htm), for the practice tests. Hope your friend did well yesterday and good luck for tomorrow.
Hi Mikey,
The test itself on English language, maths etc wasn't too bad though the psychological testing went on and on and on. Now all i can do it wait....
Does anyone know how soon the results come out and if we receive them via post all email.
Good luck for all those still to be tested :-D
Quote from: Tammey on May 03, 2011, 05:17:20 PM
Hi Scottie,
Thanks for the tip on study material. I was lucky enough to have some books i brought some time ago when i had to do a similar test, they really helped. I also used two websites- www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm (http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm) and www.psychometric-success.com/downloads/download-practice-tests.htm (http://www.psychometric-success.com/downloads/download-practice-tests.htm), for the practice tests. Hope your friend did well yesterday and good luck for tomorrow.
Hi Mikey,
The test itself on English language, maths etc wasn't too bad though the psychological testing went on and on and on. Now all i can do it wait....
Does anyone know how soon the results come out and if we receive them via post all email.
Good luck for all those still to be tested :-D
I think it will take a few weeks before you hear anything because i believe the tests are sent away for processing. I would presume they would only interview about 150 and rank 100 of those, going on what they have done previous years. They do not tell you any scores, only if you make it thru to next stage or not.
Hi Tammey, no worries about the information. If I may ask you a question, did the question they asked in the test similar to the ones on the SAMFS site?
Thanks again Ferret!
Scottie,
The questions are similar but they get harder the further you get into the test. The language ones and the maths one start pretty simple and then progressively get more difficult. :| If you've done the study though you shouldn't have a problem.
Good luck.
Well next stage is complete now just have to wait for a couple of weeks till I get an email with a yes or no. Could not get over the 544 questions you have to answer. Well good luck to those still waiting to do the test and all the best to those that have already done the test.
So guys, how do you think you went in the testing? It was my first go and i was very nervous at the beginning but settled down after a bit. Hopefully we don't have to wait to long to get the results.
Has anyone received their results of the exam yet?
Not yet mate
Process only finished wed or thursday of last week, might have to wait just a little longer !!
Quote from: gasman on May 17, 2011, 11:08:37 AM
Process only finished wed or thursday of last week, might have to wait just a little longer !!
You dont get reults. You just get: come in for an interview or try again next time. At a guess i would say end of next week at the earliest to hear if you are thru to the next stage
Oh ok. Thanks guys
Yeah like ferret said, we wont find out till at least the 27th i've been told.
Have been told the same the 27th or there abouts. Also they are working out next years intake so they can work out how many people they will take through to the interview. At a guess 25-30 people per 18 person course, to allow for people that don't make it past the interview or fail the Pat 2 test.
Quote from: Scottie on May 18, 2011, 12:52:29 PM
Have been told the same the 27th or there abouts. Also they are working out next years intake so they can work out how many people they will take through to the interview. At a guess 25-30 people per 18 person course, to allow for people that don't make it past the interview or fail the Pat 2 test.
Pretty sure they will want to cab rank about 100 so will interview 150. Never heard of anyone failing the pat2 twice so very rare that this knocks anyone out. Very hard for MFS to calculate how many they need until people notify them of retiring. Just make sure you prepare for the interview, study up like it is an exam.
Just a quick question does any1 know roughly what the pass mark is to get through to the interview stage like do u need 100% on the tests that were just held?
Pretty sure they will want to cab rank about 100 so will interview 150. Never heard of anyone failing the pat2 twice so very rare that this knocks anyone out. Very hard for MFS to calculate how many they need until people notify them of retiring. Just make sure you prepare for the interview, study up like it is an exam.
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Hi Ferret - can you offer any guidance on what we should know before going into the interview?
Quote from: disturbed on May 18, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
Just a quick question does any1 know roughly what the pass mark is to get through to the interview stage like do u need 100% on the tests that were just held?
I think it will depend on how many they want to interview, so there wont really be a pass mark. They will just take the top say 150 from the testing. Because they couldnt really set a pass mark and interview 400 people
Make sure you have answers and examples of the "Is firefighting for me?" questions from the SAMFS website. Know what a standard day at work consists of and what incidents firefighters may have to attend. Ask someone you know in the job or drop in to any station and someone will be more than happy to give you some info. Have some info or basic idea of the community programs run by the SAMFS( RAP and JFLIP).
What personal qualities do you have that will help at emergency situations?
Read thru the PID and know about how the shifts work, how will you benefit the fire service?
Quote from: disturbed on May 18, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
Just a quick question does any1 know roughly what the pass mark is to get through to the interview stage like do u need 100% on the tests that were just held?
Surely the psych test (are u the right fit for a firefighter) outweighs getting a few maths questions right or wrong. I have assumed they will look at this section of everyones test as a priority and then look to see if u did "ok" in the aptitude then if ur the right fit they will want to have a look at u in an interview.... Time will tell
Quote from: BT085 on May 18, 2011, 10:44:24 PM
Quote from: disturbed on May 18, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
Just a quick question does any1 know roughly what the pass mark is to get through to the interview stage like do u need 100% on the tests that were just held?
Surely the psych test (are u the right fit for a firefighter) outweighs getting a few maths questions right or wrong. I have assumed they will look at this section of everyones test as a priority and then look to see if u did "ok" in the aptitude then if ur the right fit they will want to have a look at u in an interview.... Time will tell
Not sure how it works exactly because the MFS never tell you. But, yes you would have to be the suitable personality first. However they need to have some sort of ranking to cull the large numbers. From what ive heard the aptitude testing is also to see what "type of thinker" you are, not necessarily the smartest. Lets face it firefighting isnt rocket science, you need to be a practical thinker when it comes to operating the pumps on trucks and sorting thru different situations that arise at incidents. Plenty of people are book smart but have no idea when it comes to hands on jobs.
They also need to recruit people that reflect the diversity of the community, so people in minority groups have a better chance(in my opinion)
A few years back the MFS had a test which was very hard. The problem was the people selected where not the best in the end for the job. They changed the test the next year. :-)
So as Ferret said it's about the type of thinker"
Not sure if anyone has said anything to you Ferret but thank you for your knowledge and for answering question as it is a great help to all of us. Come Friday hopefully will receive some good news.
Not sure if anybody has mentioned this but.... Ferret your a twat and a fWaud..... your not even the real ferret your just a waskely wabbit
Well how did we all go? Any interviews? Heard they advised people today
Hi Ferret - no, still have not heard anything.
Cheers,
Mikey
yea got mine back today looks like ill be trying again next year! :wink:
Hi Crossy - how were you notified? Email?
Mikey
Didnt make it again. Moving on will not be doing it again.
The pyschometric test is flawed :x
Yeah unsuccessful but will give it another go next time. Just wish you could get some kind of feedback so you can work on what you need to.
Quote from: wicky on May 23, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
Didnt make it again. Moving on will not be doing it again.
The pyschometric test is flawed :x
Are you sure about that?
Quote from: Scottie on May 23, 2011, 11:37:19 PM
Yeah unsuccessful but will give it another go next time. Just wish you could get some kind of feedback so you can work on what you need to.
It's difficult to provide feedback on the results of a test that you're meant to answer honestly to give an accurate representation of your personality.
If the results came back with areas to improve on, then can't you just lie or "improve" your way through the next test you take, thus rendering the test redundant?
Quote from: 6739264 on May 24, 2011, 07:07:27 AM
Quote from: wicky on May 23, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
Didnt make it again. Moving on will not be doing it again.
The pyschometric test is flawed :x
Are you sure about that?
Quote from: Scottie on May 23, 2011, 11:37:19 PM
Yeah unsuccessful but will give it another go next time. Just wish you could get some kind of feedback so you can work on what you need to.
It's difficult to provide feedback on the results of a test that you're meant to answer honestly to give an accurate representation of your personality.
If the results came back with areas to improve on, then can't you just lie or "improve" your way through the next test you take, thus rendering the test redundant?
They could atleast give feed back on the aptitude testing or tell you if your personality type is not what they are after. The way it is now you dont know where you went wrong.
Can anyone tell me how they select those who go forward to the interview? Do they decide how many they want to interview then take that many, say they want 150 so the top 150 go through. I was under the impression it is all pass/fail but they could potentially end up with hundreds going through. I myself also missed out and I would be happier to know there were people simply better than me applying rather than myself not reaching a given mark.
Quote from: kj on May 24, 2011, 10:57:41 AM
Can anyone tell me how they select those who go forward to the interview? Do they decide how many they want to interview then take that many, say they want 150 so the top 150 go through. I was under the impression it is all pass/fail but they could potentially end up with hundreds going through. I myself also missed out and I would be happier to know there were people simply better than me applying rather than myself not reaching a given mark.
I reckon they just take say the top 150 for example. Not sure if you can contact Mara and ask her how you went or where you went wrong
Works for me.
thanks
Quote from: 6739264 on May 24, 2011, 07:07:27 AM
Quote from: wicky on May 23, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
Didnt make it again. Moving on will not be doing it again.
The pyschometric test is flawed :x
Are you sure about that?
POSITIVE.
Recruits fail personality test MICHAEL OWEN From: The Advertiser December 25, 2006 11:30PM
MORE than one-third of people wanting to join the Metropolitan Fire Service are rejected because of personality quirks.
Firefighters have described a new personality test as "flawed" and called for a review before the next intake early next year.
Latest MFS recruitment data, obtained by The Advertiser under Freedom of Information, shows that of the 443 people who sat the personality profile test for the first time last year, only 159 passed.
Just 50 of the 614 people who applied to become firefighters were successful during the most recent recruitment process.
The 8 per cent success rate confirms just how difficult it is to enter the profession, with the MFS saying it was "not unusual to have some people try up to six times to become an MFS officer".
According to the FoI documents, of 614 initial applicants, 531 were invited to undertake the recruitment process last year.
Stage one, the shuttle run, was failed by 41 potential recruits, while 279 were rejected during the personality profile/firefighter ability phase, 92 did not make it past the interview/assessment centre stage and 10 failed job-related task testing. No applicants failed the medical exam and one did not pass a police check.
MFS spokesman John Foody said the personality profile, used for the first time last year, was a "valuable tool to ensure potential firefighters are able to work closely, in pressure situations, with other firefighters from diverse backgrounds".
"People who are more sociable may be better suited to being in the fire service because you're working closely with your team for extended periods of time," he said.
"If you are too introverted or too domineering this doesn't best suit the role of a firefighter."
But United Fire Fighters Union of SA president Bill Jamieson said there were many cases in which intelligent, stable and well-adjusted people were rejected by the MFS for failing the personality test.
He said the union was not consulted before the test was introduced and demanded a full review of the recruitment process.
"I think it is flawed," he said.
sorry to hear about ppl who hav had the bad news.. I verify my previous posts that it really is based on pych testing. As I did not finish maths questions (got up to question 16 and guessed the rest) also was not too confident with my reading comprehension... However I have made the interview. I believe it does go to show that really maths stuff doesnt matter (as long as u get the 4+9 stuff right) it really is based mostly on pych tsts and being the right fit.. An unfortunate process but I guess thats alll they can do
just curious wicky seeing as the article is from 4 and a bit years ago did you check that it hasnt been changed since that article before making a decsion its flawed?
wicky, your article is outdated.
I think as long as you get most of the maths questions correct, it all comes down to the Psyc test.
It was explained to me as you need to fit in (bell curve) a certain rang for the test. I have no idea what the range is. I have passed the test a while ago. I never finished all of the maths and for the word association. Well the last few questions was a guess. Quick fill in anything.
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
As i have said before you need a bit of luck to get thru to the last 150. You may have been suitable from the psych but not in the 150 they pick. It isnt a coincidence that approx 150 pass the psych every year
Ferret, a couple of questions if you don't mind as you seem to be one not vying into the petty arguments.
1. Do the MFS open applications to the public every year or do they draw from a pool of people that just missed out the previous year until they need a bigger pool.
2. I failed the psych, which to be honest surprised and disappointed me as I thought I would make it to at least the interview,if I'm to sit it again and answer differently can they tell? do they keep a record of who has applied in the past and their results?
And to anyone else out there, what do you know about the airservices firies, I love what I do with the CFS hence the attempt to join the MFS but I would be just as happy with airservices as it's better than nothing.
Ta
How do you know what you failed in the test?
I received the letter with a #5 on it, does anyone know what this means? It doesn't say have a messed up on.. I gotta feeling it might be the phych.
Cheers
I know I failed the psych because the aptitude test was so easy.
Quote from: kj on May 25, 2011, 01:06:08 PM
Ferret, a couple of questions if you don't mind as you seem to be one not vying into the petty arguments.
1. Do the MFS open applications to the public every year or do they draw from a pool of people that just missed out the previous year until they need a bigger pool.
2. I failed the psych, which to be honest surprised and disappointed me as I thought I would make it to at least the interview,if I'm to sit it again and answer differently can they tell? do they keep a record of who has applied in the past and their results?
And to anyone else out there, what do you know about the airservices firies, I love what I do with the CFS hence the attempt to join the MFS but I would be just as happy with airservices as it's better than nothing.
Ta
Im not an expert on the recruitment but how often they call for applications depends on how many recruits they need due to retirements, new station etc. Have heard a rumour they will do 1 squad this year out of current group and maybe 1 or 2 more early next year from same lot if they need more. The psych testing is only valid for 1 year. Not sure if they would notice if you answered differently but you just need to make sure you are consistent with your answers throughout. The test is designed to catch people out who try to answer with responses they think the mfs would want. I would guess they have a record of if you have applied before, many people take 2 or 3 or even more times before they finally get in.
ok.. Thanks ferret. I think I know what I stuffed up on... A couple of the questions that I answered I was not happy with. If I could answer the again I would have answered them differently.
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.
1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True
2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True
A serious answer would be appreciated. :-)
Quote from: flyonthewall on May 24, 2011, 09:44:34 PM
wicky, your article is outdated.
Its still relevant............
Quote from: wicky on May 25, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.
1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True
2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True
A serious answer would be appreciated. :-)
You do own a firearm so question 1a) should have been true aswell
I got notified by email. Not too dissapointed
Though only 19 so plenty of years of trying left! 8-)
Quote from: crossy on May 25, 2011, 07:28:20 PM
I got notified by email. Not too dissapointed
Though only 19 so plenty of years of trying left! 8-)
You had little chance. Youngest I've heard of is 21. They like "life experience"
I did figure that would be the case but can't hurt to try and it does give me an idea
What preparation to do for the next intake
Quote from: wicky on May 25, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.
1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True
2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True
A serious answer would be appreciated. :-)
Is this meant to be a set of true/false questions? Your answers do not make sense for the questions posed.
QuoteQuote from: flyonthewall on Yesterday at 10:44:34 PM
wicky, your article is outdated.
Its still relevant............
I understand your frustration wicky. I have been there.
Quote from: wicky on May 25, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.
1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True
2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True
A serious answer would be appreciated. :-)
AS much this isn't quite how the questions are set out, I'll try.
For question one, your answers indicate you're lying regarding part A) given your answer for part B).
If you own more than 3 firearms, then yes, you do own a firearm.
Lying is bad ;)
Not too sure where you're going with the second part question.
I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.
Then the whinging starts......
Quote from: K99 on May 27, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.
Then the whinging starts......
Are you in the MFS K99??
QuotePosted by: K99
I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.
Then the whinging starts......
:-D
Quote from: K99 on May 27, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.
Then the whinging starts......
It would be frustrating when the MFS gives very little feed back on where applicants went wrong. They need to be more transparent and give out scores. But then they couldnt recruit the "types" of people they require......
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: wicky on May 25, 2011, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Failing the psych testing, then blaming the testing process.... maybe thats indicating something right there.
Ok, Alex How would analyse this. I have given my answers.
1 a.) Do you own a firearm. False
b.) Do you own more than three firearms. True
2 a.) Do you hunt animals. False
b.) Do you prefer to shoot animals with a camera. True
A serious answer would be appreciated. :-)
Is this meant to be a set of true/false questions? Your answers do not make sense for the questions posed.
Wicky?
Quote from: Ferret on May 27, 2011, 04:12:45 PM
Quote from: K99 on May 27, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
I love following this recruitment thread each year. Everyone gets all excited about applying for the MFS. Everyone gets their hopes up. Lots of questions are asked, further fuelling their confidence then BAM! FAIL.
Then the whinging starts......
It would be frustrating when the MFS gives very little feed back on where applicants went wrong. They need to be more transparent and give out scores. But then they couldnt recruit the "types" of people they require......
Catch-22?
What K99 says is true - sadly.
Most jobs you apply for either a)don't tell you why or b)don't tell you the real reason :wink:
Yep numbers Catch22
as for answering the firearm question like that-I too would say hmmm dodgy.
And before some attack me - I have been trained to recruit, interview & select new people. And have some experience in selecting wheat from chaff
So for those who didn't make it the first question you should be asking is Do I really want to do this? And then where can I do better? deep down I normally have know why I didn't get the job I want :wink:
This test is primariy to see if your telling fibs, and if you do guess what - try again next year
For those who are thinking about giving Mara ring don't bother as She will give you no reasons why you may not have made it just try again next year as they have their 150 and another 50 on standby for interviewing. I asked why and she said Quote other people where better than you. So all the best to those who have an interview to everyone else see you in 2013 to try again. :-)
Ahhh getting an answer from the non uniformed HR staff, good luck with that....
Do you know of a way to find out pumprescue?
Imagine being in her shoes. For starters, she is not allowed to tell anyone. If she did and someone found out, then she could even lose her job. Could you imagine how many people would be ringing to find out where they went wrong.......I bet there would be hundreds.
As the web site clearly states, feedback will only be given to those people who were not successful during the interview process. Read the web site guys and girls, its written for a reason.
Quote from: gasman on May 31, 2011, 07:56:26 AM
As the web site clearly states, feedback will only be given to those people who were not successful during the interview process. Read the web site guys and girls, its written for a reason.
And why cant they tell you? They should have your scores right in front of them.Would be easier to give feedback at this stage than after the interview in terms of pass fail. Not hard to work out why they dont, besides being a large number of people to inform. An email with an aptitude score would do
They gave out scores for the testing years ago. It was put onto the website and you looked up your application number and could see what you scored in each area of the aptitude test but there was no other feedback for anything. It was all pass or fail, no second chances either.
There are always lots of people who miss out, hundreds infact, so you'll just have to try again next time. Like has been mentioned, it's funny how many people think they can just apply and get in.
This was my first time around, I too failed to get an interview. I'm curious, if there are any MFS firefighters reading, how many times did you apply before you were employed?
Quote from: Sammy on June 02, 2011, 09:28:11 PM
This was my first time around, I too failed to get an interview. I'm curious, if there are any MFS firefighters reading, how many times did you apply before you were employed?
You have a much better chance of getting in the last few years due to the ageing fire service and a couple of new stations they are running 2-3 squads a year. Whereas 8-10yrs ago they were lucky to run 1 a year from what im told. I know a guy who got to the interview 6 times before he got thru, you need a bit of luck.
4X over 7yrs
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Quote from: flyonthewall on June 03, 2011, 12:52:57 PM
4X over 7yrs
of those 4 times- did u make the interview every time?
I know someone that got through on try number 10, got to the interview every time, so not sure what made number 10 work, but it happens.
This was over many years.
QuotePosted by: BT085
Quote from: flyonthewall on June 03, 2011, 01:52:57 PM
4X over 7yrs
of those 4 times- did u make the interview every time?
No
Well, how did the interviews go? Come out thinking "How the hell are they gonna compare and rank us from that?"
All very quiet in here all of a sudden.......
Should change the name of this to NON RECRUITMENT 2011 cause the only people posting are the ones that didnt make it.... like me!!! :-D
Quote from: Ferret on June 09, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
Well, how did the interviews go? Come out thinking "How the filtered are they gonna compare and rank us from that?"
Not well! I couldn't sleep the night before so walked into the interview dog tired. Interview was over in 35 minutes so felt like I did not give enough detail in my answers and felt a little under prepared. I would say detailed and conscise answers would play a big part in the ranking. Will be surprised if I make it through but good experience none the less.
What sort of Questions did they ask you mikey?
Quote from: mikey on June 09, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Ferret on June 09, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
Well, how did the interviews go? Come out thinking "How the filtered are they gonna compare and rank us from that?"
Not well! I couldn't sleep the night before so walked into the interview dog tired. Interview was over in 35 minutes so felt like I did not give enough detail in my answers and felt a little under prepared. I would say detailed and conscise answers would play a big part in the ranking.
Quote from: BT085 on June 10, 2011, 09:05:48 PM
Quote from: mikey on June 09, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: Ferret on June 09, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
Well, how did the interviews go? Come out thinking "How the filtered are they gonna compare and rank us from that?"
Not well! I couldn't sleep the night before so walked into the interview dog tired. Interview was over in 35 minutes so felt like I did not give enough detail in my answers and felt a little under prepared. I would say detailed and conscise answers would play a big part in the ranking.
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Can anyone comment who had been through the process on what stage of the process they would call referees? Would it be after interview before pat 2 or after pat 2? Thanks
Quote from: BT085 on June 17, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
Can anyone comment who had been through the process on what stage of the process they would call referees? Would it be after interview before pat 2 or after pat 2? Thanks
Pretty sure it is after the pat2 and even after the medical. Dont think they put much emphasis on the referees. Only a fool would put someone down as referee knowing they would give them a bad rap.
Hello, sorry for my absence. I was one of the lucky ones who made it to the interview stage. I was lucky with the exam, I've done that kind of testing before and that really helped.
Well interview was on Thurs just gone and i felt that it went really well but of course i won't know if that was good enough until we get the email. I don't know if anyone can confirm for me but i think all the interviews are now complete. If that is the case, am i to understand correctly that the emails will come out over the next couple of weeks?
Congrats by the way to all those who made it to the interview and i hope it has gone well for you all, fingers crossed.
Quote from: Tammey on June 20, 2011, 11:55:03 AM
Hello, sorry for my absence. I was one of the lucky ones who made it to the interview stage. I was lucky with the exam, I've done that kind of testing before and that really helped.
Well interview was on Thurs just gone and i felt that it went really well but of course i won't know if that was good enough until we get the email. I don't know if anyone can confirm for me but i think all the interviews are now complete. If that is the case, am i to understand correctly that the emails will come out over the next couple of weeks?
Congrats by the way to all those who made it to the interview and i hope it has gone well for you all, fingers crossed.
Tammy- I also had mine on thursday and I know a couple of guys who before me, I assume the last day of testing was friday. Early july they said we would get notified by email. I also thought I went "ok" however, the hour was really a blur of information that I "spat" out at them.. I gave heaps of examples and would have shown I know a lot, whether I answered the questions or not....?? It was very easy to ramble on- do u agree tammy and did u use the whole hour? It was more like a speech I felt, but who knows what they are looking for! Good luck to all, let me know if you hear anything.
Tammy- I also had mine on thursday 115pm and considering my last name starts with a T and I know a couple of guys who before me, I assume the last day of testing was friday. Early july they said we would get notified by email. I also thought I went "ok" however, the hour was really a blur of information that I "spat" out at them.. I gave heaps of examples and would have shown I know a lot, whether I answered the questions or not....?? It was very easy to ramble on- do u agree tammy and did u use the whole hour? It was more like a speech I felt, but who knows what they are looking for! Good luck to all, let me know if you hear anything.
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I can't believe how much i rambled on, when they asked was there anything more i would like to add I looked at the clock and realised i only had 9 mins left of the hour so I thought better call it a day. I too felt like i gave lots of examples and answers and they spent all their time looking down and writing, i found it a bit daunting that they didnt really say anything through the whole hour. Nothing i can do now but wait, good luck mate.
Has anyone received their ranking number yet? Or a date for pat2 or a try again next year email??
Must be soon if pat2 are july 11
Nope! Checking my emails on an hourly basis and nothing yet, thought we would of heard something by now as well as it doesn't leave much time before the next stage.
I also I hav not heard anything.. No news is good news at this stage, but they did say early july. Would think it would be next wk.. They havent contacted my referees, but they may did this as the very last thing... Well I hope so!
Quote from: BT085 on July 01, 2011, 01:59:34 PM
I also I hav not heard anything.. No news is good news at this stage, but they did say early july. Would think it would be next wk.. They havent contacted my referees, but they may did this as the very last thing... Well I hope so!
yeah referees will be after pat2 and medical
Still nothing... Wat about u tammy?? No news is better than bad news I guess, but pat 2 is supposed to be scheduled for next wk..
Hey there. Not sure what's going on re no results yet. Pat 2 starting Monday. Has anyone heard anyting at all???? Is this normal to leave such a small gap between results an pat2???
Quote from: Thor on July 05, 2011, 11:39:15 AM
Hey there. Not sure what's going on re no results yet. Pat 2 starting Monday. Has anyone heard anyting at all???? Is this normal to leave such a small gap between results an pat2???
The pat2 might start week after, the dates on website were only a guide. They should give atleast a weeks notice so u can organise day off etc
Yeah that makes sense. Any idea on why it's taken so long after interviews for them to rank??
Quote from: Thor on July 05, 2011, 12:31:55 PM
Yeah that makes sense. Any idea on why it's taken so long after interviews for them to rank??
They may have already told the top 20 people about the pat2 next week. Then they will finalise the cab rank numbers after they have selected the 18 for the drill squad this year. Could be a number of reasons. U will get used to waiting and wondering cos they dont tell u anything
Guess I'm not in top 20 then!!!
I wouldnt jump to conclusions just yet thor... Who knows really wat they're doing
Hi guys,
Just spoken to Mara at HR as I needed to find out what was going on so I could work out work commitments. She said the 'Yes' e-mails were coming out today but didn't specify whether they were already out or still to come. Panicking a bit now but I guess we'll have our answer by end of play today. No news really won't be good news!
Good luck everyone.
Tammy- so Mara didnt give any other indications re the 'no' letters etc? Did u get the feeling the yes letters were already out? Oh well maybe ill be ranked top 50 haha... Holding on to any hope now!!
I know how you feel mate, i feel physically sick checking my emails every 5 mins. My life is on hold for the next 2 hrs where i will be no more then 5 metres away from my computer! My thoughts are racing in regard to the conversation I had with Mara, did she not say anything specific about whether the 'Yes' emails had already come out because she was just being kind or didnt want me to crumble at the other end of the phone?????
She wasn't giving anything away apart from the 'Yes' emails are coming out today, that could mean they are still to come out......don't know for certain either way. Sorry
May only be the yes email for the first twenty as well so dont give up all hope
Ok guys they're out, after a quick look followed by two laps of the living room, i've calmed down enough to post the news. Any news for anyone else???
well done, what number did you get ranked at?
Quote from: gasman on July 05, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
well done, what number did you get ranked at?
No ranking given, even at the interview I asked if we would find out where we were ranked and they said no. It's just an invite to the PAT 2 & uniform fit-out, medical, step-test - 3 different dates.
well looks like attempt number six is on the cards then !!
Well done tammy... No news for me unfortunately.. Was this ur first attempt and how old are u mate?
Quote from: Tammey on July 05, 2011, 03:42:47 PM
Quote from: gasman on July 05, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
well done, what number did you get ranked at?
No ranking given, even at the interview I asked if we would find out where we were ranked and they said no. It's just an invite to the PAT 2 & uniform fit-out, medical, step-test - 3 different dates.
What is the step test??
In the letter it states theres a 'Respiratory Test' and they've allocated 30mins for it, just from experience is sounds like a step test- theres a box you have to step up on in time with beeps on a tape, you wear a heart rate monitor, the beeps get closer together as the levels increase. They record your heart rate at each level. I'm not 100% sure if this is the test but this is what it sounds like. Please no one hold me to this it's just an educated guess really. If it was just a spirometry test (thats the one you blow into a tube and they measure your lung capacity) they wouldnt need 30mins.
BT085 - yes it was my first attempt, however, prior to leaving the UK 14 months ago i was a full time operational firefighter and had been for 6 1/2 years. I'm 31. Don't throw in the towel yet, my opinion is the emails today are only referring to those that have been allocated a place on the 1st training course.
So have I got this right? Yr saying that today's yes results r for the first squad?? If so how reliable is this info? Worth asking Mara?
Quote from: Tammey on July 05, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
In the letter it states theres a 'Respiratory Test' and they've allocated 30mins for it, just from experience is sounds like a step test- theres a box you have to step up on in time with beeps on a tape, you wear a heart rate monitor, the beeps get closer together as the levels increase. They record your heart rate at each level. I'm not 100% sure if this is the test but this is what it sounds like. Please no one hold me to this it's just an educated guess really. If it was just a spirometry test (thats the one you blow into a tube and they measure your lung capacity) they wouldnt need 30mins.
Gasman- yes it was my first attempt, however, prior to leaving the UK 14 months ago i was a full time operational firefighter and had been for 6 1/2 years. I'm 31. Don't throw in the towel yet, my opinion is the emails today are only referring to those that have been allocated a place on the 1st training course.
I think its a lung function test not step test. Exhale in to tube and the strength and volume is monitored by a computer.
Quote from: Thor on July 05, 2011, 04:30:31 PM
So have I got this right? Yr saying that today's yes results r for the first squad?? If so how reliable is this info? Worth asking Mara?
Definitely, this is only my opinion and from the impression i got from speaking to Mara earlier. Fingers crossed though that this is the case and theres still some good news to come.
Thanks Ferret I will probably have to make a call to clarify for certain. When i joined the fire brigade in the UK around 7-8 years ago we did a step test as part of the recruitment. The letter said 'The examination will take approximately 30 mins' and I assumed it wouldnt take 30mins to blow into a tube! What did you have to do when you joined?
Yeah I got a yes for Thursday 14th. Surely it wouldn't take all week to pat2 20 of us???
Quote from: Thor on July 05, 2011, 04:48:41 PM
Yeah I got a yes for Thursday 14th. Surely it wouldn't take all week to pat2 20 of us???
Great news mate, mines at 2.30pm, what times yours? I can't see it taking more than 2 days to pat2 test 20 of us.
Thanks and well done. What I was thinking is pat2 starting on the Monday. If so it would seem it's not just the top 20. So we need to establish how many r doing the pat 2. Hopefully yr right??
Well done thor.. Was this ur first crack at it also? Did u use up the whole hour in ur interview and feel u did heaps well??
I'm fairly convinced that it's only the 20 (18 + 2 reserves) who are earmarked for the first training course who are being invited to the PAT 2 and uniform fitting. My understanding is that it is a pass or fail and you are not in direct competition with everyone else. My information is that when they are ready to run the next course they will PAT2 test the next 20.
It would seem silly at this stage to uniform fit those that have not been allocated a place on the course. This is only my opinion but it is based on information received which I have no reason to disbelieve. As always though I stand to be corrected.
Out of interest tammy and thor are you guys aware if they contacted ur referees prior to your letter today?
Quote from: Ferret on July 01, 2011, 02:55:11 PM
yeah referees will be after pat2 and medical
I have no idea personally, I'm not aware that they have. Ferret is more informed than me so I'm going with what he said.
Hey Tammey. I start at 100pm. Whats got me confused is that Mara said they were running the pat2 all week starting monday. So unless they are only doing 4 a day than there is a lot more than 20 doing it.
Quote from: Thor on July 05, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Hey Tammey. I start at 100pm. Whats got me confused is that Mara said they were running the pat2 all week starting monday. So unless they are only doing 4 a day than there is a lot more than 20 doing it.
I was only guessing at 20. Maybe they are doing enough for 2 squads. Each pat2 takes over an hour by the time you watch the DVD again, get kitted up and then do the testing.
Man it's frustrating. Was expecting to get a rank number to know where I stood. How full on is the medical!??
Quote from: Thor on July 05, 2011, 07:05:55 PM
Man it's frustrating. Was expecting to get a rank number to know where I stood. How full on is the medical!??
no reason to be frustrated thor... U made the next stage...
Hey guys, so is anyone game enough to contact Mara and ask her how it actually works. Was it 20 or so that got a yes yesterday and the rest at a later time? Or did all 100 or so get their yes result yesterday. Who's callin her????? :|
Mate- it doesnt matter... Your in the next stage.. I think its safe to assume they wouldnt send 'yes' letters out to all people ranked in top 100 as there is no gaurantee that they will hav another drill squad.. It depends on retirements etc.. Who knows though.. Thats just my opinion
Quote from: BT085 on July 06, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
Mate- it doesnt matter... Your in the next stage.. I think its safe to assume they wouldnt send 'yes' letters out to all people ranked in top 100 as there is no gaurantee that they will hav another drill squad.. It depends on retirements etc.. Who knows though.. Thats just my opinion
In the past they have selected the numbers for the first drill squad and then given the remaining succesful applicants( those who have "passed" the interview) a cab ranking number so as they need new drill squads they select from this pool.Then they do the pat2 etc
heres hoping they do the same again this time around...... Just an answer would be nice though
Quote from: gasman on July 05, 2011, 03:47:27 PM
well looks like attempt number six is on the cards then !!
Hey gasman, how many times out of your 5 applications have u made the interview?
every time i have applied, i have been interviewed.
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Quote from: gasman on July 07, 2011, 02:05:44 PM
every time i have applied, i have been interviewed.
Hey Gasman, with the times you have been interviewed, did you ever have the same people interview you? What about the questions, did they change them at all?
The questions are always different, same types of questions but always worded differently enough to throw you. The interview panels have always been different people as well. I will continue to apply until they take me or tell me not to apply again !!!
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Quote from: gasman on July 11, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Sorry to hear gasman.. Wat did the letter say? Was it a traditional "try next time" letter.. They must be only sending them out now as I am still waiting
Quote from: gasman on July 11, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Mate just keep trying. Getting to the interview is an achievement it's self. This was my first time, I didn't pass the testing stage.
Quote from: BT085 on July 11, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: gasman on July 11, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Sorry to hear gasman.. Wat did the letter say? Was it a traditional "try next time" letter.. They must be only sending them out now as I am still waiting
What # try is this for you BT085? Maybe your getting cab ranked.
Quote from: Sammy on July 11, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: BT085 on July 11, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: gasman on July 11, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Sorry to hear gasman.. Wat did the letter say? Was it a traditional "try next time" letter.. They must be only sending them out now as I am still waiting
What # try is this for you BT085? Maybe your getting cab ranked.
I know a guy who got an email today that said to stay fit as you may be called upon later. No ranking number though
Quote from: Ferret on July 11, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: Sammy on July 11, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: BT085 on July 11, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: gasman on July 11, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Sorry to hear gasman.. Wat did the letter say? Was it a traditional "try next time" letter.. They must be only sending them out now as I am still waiting
What # try is this for you BT085? Maybe your getting cab ranked.
Sammy this is my first go.. I put a lot of effort into it, a lot of research-spoken to lots of ppl etc... Luck also plays a part.
Ferret that is the letter I got today... Im hoping that is a ranking letter without an "actual rank".. I guess its good news but not sure where I am at now....??? Might ring hr later in wk and try and get some info
I know a guy who got an email today that said to stay fit as you may be called upon later. No ranking number though
Quote from: BT085 on July 11, 2011, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Ferret on July 11, 2011, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: Sammy on July 11, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: BT085 on July 11, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: gasman on July 11, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
Well its official, i missed out again...... Maybe just one more try !!
Ferret that is the letter I got today... Im hoping that is a ranking letter without an "actual rank".. I guess its good news but not sure where I am at now....??? Might ring hr later in wk and try and get some info
Mate that's a very positive response. Fingers crossed for the next squad.
Yeah i got the same letter yesterday too... spoke to HR last week and they said they aren't going to tell us our rank # should we get put into the pool. Good news i think, we are cab ranked, just dont know what number...
Hey there, anyone done their pat2 yet?? Im on Thursday. Heard some full on stories from ones prior. Drop something and your out ect.
Quote from: Thor on July 12, 2011, 10:14:24 AM
Hey there, anyone done their pat2 yet?? Im on Thursday. Heard some full on stories from ones prior. Drop something and your out ect.
The pat2 isnt that hard. If you have watched the dvd you know what to expect. You have plenty of time to finish it, only was you can really fail is to freak out or drop something. You get a warning for most of the tests(eg, wrong technique lowering ladder). Most of the tests are designed to test any phobias you may have. Eg. scared of heights, closed spaces, wearing BA and gas suit, being disorientated in the dark etc. Just pace yourself and hold onto everything tight. make sure you are comfortable with the positioning of the hose in the hose hold at the start because it can easily slip once the pressure is turned up and you are directing from side to side
Quote from: Thor on July 12, 2011, 10:14:24 AM
Hey there, anyone done their pat2 yet?? Im on Thursday. Heard some full on stories from ones prior. Drop something and your out ect.
I can see the training tower from my office and it looks like there are some doing it now.
How bout the medical. Have heard the look at you petty hard. Do many fail that stage. How bout knee recons ect. Do you sign a medical release.
Quote from: Thor on July 12, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
How bout the medical. Have heard the look at you petty hard. Do many fail that stage. How bout knee recons ect. Do you sign a medical release.
When i did the medical about 3 years ago i think you had to fill out a questionaire on previous injuries. The main focus of the medical was the stability of all your joints, so previous injuries shouldnt matter as long as the joints are now stable. To be honest it was one of the more basic medicals i have been through. I think they realise that you have already passed the pat1 and pat2 so you are physically ok.As long as your vision and hearing are to the levels they require
obviously age isnt much of a barrier when they look for recruits, have heard someone made the pat 2 at age 50?
Still hope for me yet then, 42 this year
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on July 12, 2011, 06:55:57 PM
obviously age isnt much of a barrier when they look for recruits, have heard someone made the pat 2 at age 50?
Is this for real? What is the age a firefighter will come off the tools? One would think 60ish?
Quote from: Sammy on July 12, 2011, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on July 12, 2011, 06:55:57 PM
obviously age isnt much of a barrier when they look for recruits, have heard someone made the pat 2 at age 50?
Is this for real? What is the age a firefighter will come off the tools? One would think 60ish?
As you will work out if you get in the SAMFS, they are not allowed to discriminate in any way during any recruiting or promotions. There should be an age limit, its not a job for someone in there mid 50's to be running round on the back of trucks.I think they have realised this and are now recruiting a lot more younger people. You might get a couple in their 40's in each drill squad.
Quote from: Ferret on July 13, 2011, 05:23:06 AM
Quote from: Sammy on July 12, 2011, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on July 12, 2011, 06:55:57 PM
obviously age isnt much of a barrier when they look for recruits, have heard someone made the pat 2 at age 50?
Is this for real? What is the age a firefighter will come off the tools? One would think 60ish?
As you will work out if you get in the SAMFS, they are not allowed to discriminate in any way during any recruiting or promotions. There should be an age limit, its not a job for someone in there mid 50's to be running round on the back of trucks.I think they have realised this and are now recruiting a lot more younger people. You might get a couple in their 40's in each drill squad.
You'd think they wouldn't take on anyone without the intention of getting 10yrs service out of them.
Hi, I'm new to the forum but have been following it for a few months... My Husband applied but did not get through the written test but a friend of ours got through the interview and was given the "Stay Fit" email. I've heard that some people have been failing the pat 2 test! does anyone know how true this is?
Quote from: triple j on July 13, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
Hi, I'm new to the forum but have been following it for a few months... My Husband applied but did not get through the written test but a friend of ours got through the interview and was given the "Stay Fit" email. I've heard that some people have been failing the pat 2 test! does anyone know how true this is?
Generally not too many people fail the pat2 test so i doubt its true. Not sure if it is still the same but you get a 2nd opportunity if you fail the pat2 on first try.
One go at pat 2!!!!!!
Quote from: Thor on July 13, 2011, 03:10:41 PM
One go at pat 2!!!!!!
They have changed this then. In the past if you failed pat2 you were given another opportunity when they tested for the next drill squad.
So did the guys/girls on forum tick or agree to be employed at either Pt Pirie, metro or Mt gambier??
Yeah mate I did. Would prefer the piere than the mount. Any comments from any that passed or failed pat 2?? I'm up tomorrow.
nah i didnt pick pirie or mount gambier
Why's that ferret
Quote from: Thor on July 13, 2011, 04:49:59 PM
Yeah mate I did. Would prefer the piere than the mount. Any comments from any that passed or failed pat 2?? I'm up tomorrow.
Excited mate? Have you been doing anything to prepare for it? All the best for tomorrow
Yeah mate keen to do it. Watched pat2 video. Trained runnin ect. Had a cold fir last 2 weeks!! Good to go !
Good luck Thor, i did the pat 2 about four yeras ago, absolutely loved it. Only advice i would give is do not drop anything. Especially the life line in the tunnel crawl.... Mate have a blast
Thanks mate. Howd u go when u did it. Howd u find the time limits??
Quote from: gasman on July 13, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
Good luck Thor, i did the pat 2 about four yeras ago, absolutely loved it. Only advice i would give is do not drop anything. Especially the life line in the tunnel crawl.... Mate have a blast
Life-line? Is that the rope you hold onto to guide you through the tunnel? Is it relatively simple to get through as long as you keep hold of that rope??
Quote from: BT085 on July 13, 2011, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: gasman on July 13, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
Good luck Thor, i did the pat 2 about four yeras ago, absolutely loved it. Only advice i would give is do not drop anything. Especially the life line in the tunnel crawl.... Mate have a blast
Life-line? Is that the rope you hold onto to guide you through the tunnel? Is it relatively simple to get through as long as you keep hold of that rope??
Yeah the life line is the rope to guide you through. Make sure you always have one hand on the rope, when you come to a point where it is tied off, feel around with other hand til you find the rope again. Just take your time and dont panic, you do not have to race thru any of the tests. If you progress steadily you will have no problems with your overall time.
Ferret- do u recall approx how many times the rope was tied off and u had to find the new one within the tunnel? Was it also a hands and knees excercise or more crouching/walking? That one probably for me would be the most challenging compared to the other excercises-did u feel the same?
Help me understand! will the people who got the "Stay Fit" email be given a chance to do the pat 2 if people fail it or have they already got reserves to fill these spots?
Quote from: triple j on July 14, 2011, 11:29:50 AM
Help me understand! will the people who got the "Stay Fit" email be given a chance to do the pat 2 if people fail it or have they already got reserves to fill these spots?
Pretty sure they have 4 reserves already
Thanks Ferret, And do these reserves get first preference for the next drill squad if they do one?
Thor, how did ya go mate?
Quote from: triple j on July 14, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
Thanks Ferret, And do these reserves get first preference for the next drill squad if they do one?
Im not 100% sure, im only going on what they have done in the past. but i would presume the reserves would be ranked 1-4 for the next drill squad if they run one.
Passed pat2. Measured up for uniform. Just got medical to go.
How'd u go tammey
Good luck, but a few guys have been measured up for uniforms before ans still missed out.
With being on the waiting list anything is possible.
From missing out and applying again to getting called up 8 months later and being told to come in for the Pat 2.
So stay fit just in-case.
Quote from: tft on July 14, 2011, 06:26:11 PM
Good luck, but a few guys have been measured up for uniforms before ans still missed out.
Don't be a party pooper TFT. They have jobs, drill squad starting September.
Not being a party pooper, but getting all measured up and being told you are first reserve sucks.
Quote from: tft on July 14, 2011, 09:13:42 PM
Not being a party pooper, but getting all measured up and being told you are first reserve sucks.
Yeah it would but surely the reserves were told they were spares before the pat2
Not sure about this drill squad, but in the past not until very late.
Does anyone know how likely they are to be running more than one drill squad from this intake?
Quote from: triple j on July 14, 2011, 10:02:49 PM
Does anyone know how likely they are to be running more than one drill squad from this intake?
I think you can only go by history, and they took 3 or 4 squads from the 09 intake. I am hoping they do the same!!
Quote from: Thor on July 14, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
Passed pat2. Measured up for uniform. Just got medical to go.
Howd u find it thor?
Quote from: triple j on July 14, 2011, 10:02:49 PM
Does anyone know how likely they are to be running more than one drill squad from this intake?
The rumour a couple months ago was the first squad this year and perhaps 2 early next year. This will depend on retirements and funding from government.
They have only ever taken 4 squads once(2008-09), this was due to 2 new stations opening up so they needed a lot more recruits.
Thor...did you find the Pat 2 hard? if so what part?
Tammey... How did you go with your pat 2?
Trained for it mate. But didn't allow for the equipment pants jacket ect. Toughest part is tunnel crawl. No idea where u r. Need to relax and try not to worry about the time. Loved it.
Do you think it would be hard for older people? How old are you?
How old are you Thor? What number shot was this for you?
Quote from: Thor on July 15, 2011, 11:18:00 AM
Trained for it mate. But didn't allow for the equipment pants jacket ect. Toughest part is tunnel crawl. No idea where u r. Need to relax and try not to worry about the time. Loved it.
Well done thor! How long in total do u think u would hav been in tunnel for? If you keep hold of that rope you cant go wrong yeah??
35 yrs old. Tried a few times when I was younger. Wasn't really fully prepared till this time. As for the rope question... It's hard to explain! U hav hold of the rope but hav to find the other end after it's been tied off. Pitch black! Just hav to remain calm. No idea how long I was in there. Any word on how tammey went???
good work Thor, might have to have a chat to you about your interview, see if i can work out where i keep going wrong. Pat 2 is a blast isnt it?
no worries mate
Quote from: gasman on July 15, 2011, 02:58:58 PM
good work Thor, might have to have a chat to you about your interview, see if i can work out where i keep going wrong. Pat 2 is a blast isnt it?
Wouldnt they tell you where u are going wrong from feedback offered?
QuotePosted by: BT085
Well done thor! How long in total do u think u would hav been in tunnel for? If you keep hold of that rope you cant go wrong yeah??
sounds like someone is a bit worried?
here's a tip....... if you are trying to simulate working/searching in the dark, don't do it with your eyes closed. Put something over your head so you can't see anything and turn off the lights. Closing your eyes is a different sensation (it also sends a signal to your brain telling it that you are trying to go to sleep!), also practice relying on feel.
Quote from: flyonthewall on July 15, 2011, 06:17:47 PM
QuotePosted by: BT085
Well done thor! How long in total do u think u would hav been in tunnel for? If you keep hold of that rope you cant go wrong yeah??
sounds like someone is a bit worried?
here's a tip....... if you are trying to simulate working/searching in the dark, don't do it with your eyes closed. Put something over your head so you can't see anything and turn off the lights. Closing your eyes is a different sensation (it also sends a signal to your brain telling it that you are trying to go to sleep!), also practice relying on feel.
Just hold the rope and keep moving forward, just steadily and feel the ground infront of you. Its more to see if you freak out in the dark and not knowing where you are.
So anyword on if all got through on pat2???
I've heard from a couple of sources that there were a few that didn't pass the pat 2 this time!
Quote from: flyonthewall on July 15, 2011, 06:17:47 PM
QuotePosted by: BT085
Well done thor! How long in total do u think u would hav been in tunnel for? If you keep hold of that rope you cant go wrong yeah??
sounds like someone is a bit worried?
here's a tip....... if you are trying to simulate working/searching in the dark, don't do it with your eyes closed. Put something over your head so you can't see anything and turn off the lights. Closing your eyes is a different sensation (it also sends a signal to your brain telling it that you are trying to go to sleep!), also practice relying on feel.
Haha... Not really worried, just giving myself the best chance with finding out as much as I can .. especially wen iv heard that not all hav passed pat 2
Have you heard that too BT085?
Quote from: triple j on July 17, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
I've heard from a couple of sources that there were a few that didn't pass the pat 2 this time!
If this is true, how disappointing for them. Would they be first called up for the second squad? Or once you fail, goodluck next intake?
Quote from: Sammy on July 18, 2011, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: triple j on July 17, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
I've heard from a couple of sources that there were a few that didn't pass the pat 2 this time!
If this is true, how disappointing for them. Would they be first called up for the second squad? Or once you fail, goodluck next intake?
Apparently now once you fail it is all over, try again next time. I would be very suprised if too many people have failed. 1 or 2 max. It aint hard
Quote from: triple j on July 17, 2011, 09:28:51 PM
Have you heard that too BT085?
I have heard similar yes
So, does anyone know if there was more than one letter sent out to applicants after interviews or did everyone who was not successful receive the same "maintain fitness" etc letter.???
Quote from: Scott. on July 18, 2011, 04:01:34 PM
So, does anyone know if there was more than one letter sent out to applicants after interviews or did everyone who was not successful receive the same "maintain fitness" etc letter.???
Scott- I have friends that received unsuccessful letters.. By the sound of it- two types of letters were sent out
Definately two types of letter. One asking you to maintain fitness the other saying you have been unsuccessful and please try again. Also gives details of how to obtain interview feedback
Well it sounds as tho they are more than likely going to run more than one drill squad!!!!! Tammey.. How did you go with your Pat2????? where have you gone?
Quote from: triple j on July 18, 2011, 04:46:01 PM
Well it sounds as tho they are more than likely going to run more than one drill squad!!!!! Tammey.. How did you go with your Pat2????? where have you gone?
Heard a female failed the pat2. Tammy perhaps??
Has been very quiet. Be a shame for anyone to fail the Pat2 especially if they are involved on here, i will agree that it did seem easy to complete the pat2, i went round in about 22 minutes from memory, nearly let the rope slip in the equipment haul, had to sit and think for a minute in the tunnel crawl as the life line was untied just after the small ladder. Just kept it together and said to myself that i only had one chance and not to let it go !! Just want to get back and do it again
Ferret.. Do you know how many failed the pat 2?
Quote from: triple j on July 18, 2011, 08:43:29 PM
Ferret.. Do you know how many failed the pat 2?
No. Just heard one female failed. But it's only hearsay. Generally not too many fail it from what I've been told.
Are the medicals this week? how's everyone going with them?
Yeah got mine Friday. Would be good to know how other hav gone with them. Anyone had theirs and got some info ????
Quote from: Thor on July 19, 2011, 11:10:38 AM
Yeah got mine Friday. Would be good to know how other hav gone with them. Anyone had theirs and got some info ????
Any worry mate? Or you in a good shape? No big previous injuries?
All good mate. Knee recon six years ago. Police cleared me on it when I joined them. Fit and good to go.
Quote from: Thor on July 19, 2011, 03:22:40 PM
All good mate. Knee recon six years ago. Police cleared me on it when I joined them. Fit and good to go.
If u passed the police testing, i would say you will pass the SAMFS one no worries.
Cheers mate. Lookin forward to gettin it over and done with. Been a long process. Thanks for the advice along the way.
Quote from: Thor on July 19, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
Cheers mate. Lookin forward to gettin it over and done with. Been a long process. Thanks for the advice along the way.
The way the whole process is run is poor. You never know quite where you stand, which is quite stressful. Atleast now you only have the medical to get through and its all over.
How long were you a copper for Thor?
Builder for 15 year then cop for 3 mate
Years ago going from cop to firefighter was very hard. Now it is normal.
its still hard !!!!. Just as hard for a cop as anyone else, i can assure you. You may have more examples to draw upon in the interview but thats it. You still have to pass everything else just the same. I am told that over 100 cops applied. All the ones i know didnt get in. So i believe that its a false belief that more cops get in than the average. I can tell you that i was fully prepared and did years of research and hard work. Along with 9mths at the academy which taught me valuable skills. Then general patrols where you learn to deal with people in stressful situations on a daily basis. Working under a chain of command. 15 years running my building business and having structural and engineering qualifications and skills along with knowledge of commercial domestic and industrial structures ticked the rite boxes as well.
Quote from: Thor on July 19, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
its still hard !!!!. Just as hard for a cop as anyone else, i can assure you. You may have more examples to draw upon in the interview but thats it. You still have to pass everything else just the same. I am told that over 100 cops applied. All the ones i know didnt get in. So i believe that its a false belief that more cops get in than the average. I can tell you that i was fully prepared and did years of research and hard work. Along with 9mths at the academy which taught me valuable skills. Then general patrols where you learn to deal with people in stressful situations on a daily basis. Working under a chain of command. 15 years running my building business and having structural and engineering qualifications and skills along with knowledge of commercial domestic and industrial structures ticked the rite boxes as well.
It's an idea I have, to become a cop to help educate me. Would be an interesting job at times
What I should have said was that the police force hated training police officer and having them go to the MFS.
They had a gentleman's agreement to make it harder for cops to get in. This was a long time age. I was all down to the money it costed to train up police officers
Yeah good point. In some ways I still think they look at u harder. The only way police are going to keep their people is to look after them better. Alot of people have the belief that being a cop will help u get in. Certainly not the case. I'm just happy to be through to this stage.:)
So research and practice is the better option that a career change you think Thor?
Cant beat life experience!!!!
Quote from: Sammy on July 20, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
So research and practice is the better option that a career change you think Thor?
The advantage in being a police officer when applying is that you can pretty much relates every question they ask to your experience with SAPOL. Hard to give example for working shift work, extreme conditions etc if you have for example worked in a bank. But when they recruit they want all "types" of people. From my short experience in SAMFS the better fireys are ones with trade backgrounds or coming from physical type jobs.
I agree. Having left school at 15 and going into building and progressing to gettin my trade then builders licence set me up well. Joining the police just gave me some experiences to draw on. I think they r after common sense practical balanced people. End of the day u got to b in it to win it .
Anyone had medical yet????
Quote from: Thor on July 20, 2011, 03:37:14 PM
Anyone had medical yet????
You are about the only one on this forum left in the process i reckon??
pressures on then :-D
Well if trade background is a help, i am stumped. 25 years of trade work, 10 of those as a self employed business owner, volunteer and all round nice guy and i still cant get past the interview. Thor, i need your help !!! Email me please!
Quote from: gasman on July 20, 2011, 05:03:10 PM
Well if trade background is a help, i am stumped. 25 years of trade work, 10 of those as a self employed business owner, volunteer and all round nice guy and i still cant get past the interview. Thor, i need your help !!! Email me please!
Have you come out of the interview thinking "i had answers and examples for all the questions i was asked"? As i have said on here before there is a lot of luck involved. 4 or 5 different panels interviewing a lot of different applicants, the difference between getting through interview or not may be just 1 answer. I know it must be frustrating, have you had feedback on where you went wrong?? What did they say?
I walked out this year and thought it would be my year. Best interview i have had to date. No feedback as yet. Starts monday next week i believe. Feed back in past has been very generic, i tink almost everyone i have spoken to has had almost identical feedback. Look forward to what they have to say this year. Just cant believe that i didnt at least make the standby group... Well i am 42 this year, my business starts to suffer every time i apply as i try not to overload my work in case i get accepted, if they dont see me ever getting in i wish they would just tell me straight up. Wait and see i guess.
Quote from: gasman on July 20, 2011, 06:21:26 PM
I walked out this year and thought it would be my year. Best interview i have had to date. No feedback as yet. Starts monday next week i believe. Feed back in past has been very generic, i tink almost everyone i have spoken to has had almost identical feedback. Look forward to what they have to say this year. Just cant believe that i didnt at least make the standby group... Well i am 42 this year, my business starts to suffer every time i apply as i try not to overload my work in case i get accepted, if they dont see me ever getting in i wish they would just tell me straight up. Wait and see i guess.
The person giving the feedback wont be the person who interviewed you so HR will just be going on how many boxes were ticked or not ticked.
Gasman.. a friend of mine who got put on the stand by list walked out thinking that was ths worst interview he had ever had! so who knows. Like ferret said there is more than one panel interviewing and you sound as though you have a real passion for the firies, Keep trying mate
When do all the medicals finish?
This is my first attempt, so I am still trying to understand how the process runs.
1. Does anyone know how many are on the standby list?
2. Do you think the ones on standby will ever receive their ranking number?
3. Does anyone ever fail the 14 week recruits course?
Definitely have more questions than answers at this point. (I think maybe that's how they like it!!.)
How far did you get this time scott? are you on the standby list? how old are you?
Got to interview Triple,j, then got the "maintain fitness" email, so I am guessing I'm on standby list.
Turning 39 next week and living in hope!!
Well Scott my husband is also 39 and he didn't even get to the interview stage but he is determined as ever to give it another go next time!!!!! all the best i hope you get a shot on the next drill squad, and by the sounds of it they are going to run one.
Thanks Triplej, this would have to be the most frustrating and annoying drawn out process I have ever experienced, especially when trying to stay focused on running my own business, having said all that I have enjoyed it, and learnt a lot about myself along the way, and if nothing happens this time around, I'll definitely be back again next year.
Quote from: Scott. on July 21, 2011, 04:05:11 PM
This is my first attempt, so I am still trying to understand how the process runs.
1. Does anyone know how many are on the standby list?
2. Do you think the ones on standby will ever receive their ranking number?
3. Does anyone ever fail the 14 week recruits course?
Definitely have more questions than answers at this point. (I think maybe that's how they like it!!.)
#3 is an interesting question, has anyone ever failed does anyone know? Ferret?
Quote from: Sammy on July 22, 2011, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Scott. on July 21, 2011, 04:05:11 PM
This is my first attempt, so I am still trying to understand how the process runs.
1. Does anyone know how many are on the standby list?
2. Do you think the ones on standby will ever receive their ranking number?
3. Does anyone ever fail the 14 week recruits course?
Definitely have more questions than answers at this point. (I think maybe that's how they like it!!.)
#3 is an interesting question, has anyone ever failed does anyone know? Ferret?
Pretty sure no one has failed, few have had to pull out with injuries over the years from what ive heard
U think u would try and tough it out even if u broke your back!!! :) Must hav been bad injuries to pull out!
Quote from: Thor on July 22, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
U think u would try and tough it out even if u broke your back!!! :) Must hav been bad injuries to pull out!
The drill squad is quite physical, with physical training every morning and practical firefighting drills most days so to carry a bad injury through would be tough. Especially a shoulder or knee injury
Some have gone into the next drill squad to finish off. I also think a few years one person was asked to leave half way through the course.
How did your medical go Thor? Did they give you a start date?
Medical went well. Should hear early august
Quote from: Thor on July 22, 2011, 04:50:06 PM
Medical went well. Should hear early august
Nice one. How did you find the medical? Pretty basic? What was the hearing test like?
Cheers mate.Same as police. Covered all bases. The respiratory testing was full on. U wouldn't want to smoke or hav asthma! Can't wait to hear now.
Thor.. did they tell you they would tell you early august or is that a guess?
Hey, was told a couple of weeks ago that the squad would b informed early august.
Quote from: Thor on July 22, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Hey, was told a couple of weeks ago that the squad would b informed early august.
They would still have police check and referee calls to do, which are mere formalities. Unless your a criminal
They already called referees.
Would they call referees for only the top 18 or for the reserves and stand by list as well?
Quote from: triple j on July 22, 2011, 09:35:09 PM
Would they call referees for only the top 18 or for the reserves and stand by list as well?
I would say only top 18. Think they call them after pat2 is passed. Don't wanna be a spoil sport but being on standby list doesn't guarantee a job, number of squads may depend on funding and retirements. I heard of one year when people on standby list did pat2, medical and measure for uniform and then they cancelled the squad. Then they had to reapply again with everyone else. Mfs is ruthless in recruiting cos they can be due to the popularity of the job and large number of applicants they get each year.
What I'm trying to say is don't put your life on hold waiting for a call up because if and when they recruit is unpredictable.
Yeah your probably right ferret, my husband is just so set on getting in. I feel sorry for him. Would they only check the referees for the one's that are going to be put om the drill squad?
Quote from: triple j on July 22, 2011, 10:00:32 PM
Yeah your probably right ferret, my husband is just so set on getting in. I feel sorry for him. Would they only check the referees for the one's that are going to be put om the drill squad?
I dont have any inside info, im just going on what happened when i got in. I was on the cab ranking list and my referees were not contacted until after i had done the pat2. The HR people have changed since i applied so they could be doing things differebtly now
They contacted my referees after pat 2. Then had medical. Then have to wait now. Not sure what they doing now .
Quote from: Thor on July 23, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
They contacted my referees after pat 2. Then had medical. Then have to wait now. Not sure what they doing now .
Well congratulations Thor. You'd think it's just an offer of employment to come.
Well congratulations Thor.. Did they tell you when you will be getting your final letter? I bet your heart rate and blood pressure would have been up while they were doing the medical.. How nerv raking... Well done mate you deserve it.
Thanks guys. Yeah I was nervous that's for sure. All I've been told is that we will b notified early august.
Well done Thor, save a spot for me in the next intake. As for being ranked and missing out, been there five years ago. Very hard to take but just keep trying.
Hey ferret, do u know what the go is now? R medicals finished? Once u have passed medical would it be a given that yr in?
SORRY SORRY!
Its me I'm back, my computer was down and I've been dying from a chest infection. First let me give you the good news.....Thor you're not alone! I passed my Pat 2 and the medical. Just waiting for the official letter now.
I was worried about the Pat2 as the chest infection was leaving me with the energy levels and speed of a snail! The doc gave me some pretty extreme medication to try and keep my lungs clear and i still have no idea how i managed to pass! During the tower climb i felt i had nothing left but i was determined not to give up, i hadn't come all this way and put in all this work to let a chest infection beat me. My previous experience got me thorough as the majority of the tests I had already done. It was annoying though as I knew on any other day I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
The respiratory test was interesting as i had to keep repeating certain parts as my coughing kept throwing the results out.
At least now I've got time to get over it before the course!
When i was being fitted for the uniform i had a look at the sheet with the names on it, just to see if any other females had made it through. I noticed one or two names had question marks by them, don't know if this means anything, whether this means they failed or not?
Sorry to hear about those that didn't make it this intake, good luck for next time. Fingers crossed for all those that got the 'Keep Fit' letters.
Well done!! Thought u were gone for good! Yeah I had the chest infection curse durin pat2 as well. Hav they told u when we will hear??? Once again, good work!
Thanks Thor. Well done to you too.
I spoke to the Doc about a time frame and he didn't have any information. I read earlier on the forum that it could be early Aug. I can't imagine it will be long as they only had the 18 + 4 reserves to go through and all testing is now complete. They have to give people enough time to give the required notice to their current employers.
Do you think they would contact the reserves referees or only the top 18? Tammey.. how many on that list do you think had question marks next to them?
Quote from: triple j on July 24, 2011, 10:13:59 PM
Do you think they would contact the reserves referees or only the top 18? Tammey.. how many on that list do you think had question marks next to them?
Pretty sure they wont contact referees until after they have done the pat2. They wouldnt waste their time contacting referees if they have no job offer for the applicants. I dont think a great deal of emphasis is put on the references because who is gonna put down a contact that will give them a bad wrap??
Quote from: triple j on July 24, 2011, 10:13:59 PM
Do you think they would contact the reserves referees or only the top 18? Tammey.. how many on that list do you think had question marks next to them?
There was one maybe two but i don't know what this means, whether someone didnt make the PAT2 or someone just couldnt make the uniform fit that day or it could mean the store didnt have their size????? Sorry i can't be more help.
Tammey.. Have they contacted your references yet?
Hi there. New to this forum and have been looking over the recruitment section. I was one of the lucky ones i guess who got a stay fit email now i just have to play the waiting game. Congrats to Thor and Tammy well done and good luck for your future career I'm a bit jealous but still holding on with some hope. A question for anyone who has done the pat2 after being put in the pool is how much notice do they give you before you do the pat2?
Quote from: JLS on July 25, 2011, 03:05:36 PM
Hi there. New to this forum and have been looking over the recruitment section. I was one of the lucky ones i guess who got a stay fit email now i just have to play the waiting game. Congrats to Thor and Tammy well done and good luck for your future career I'm a bit jealous but still holding on with some hope. A question for anyone who has done the pat2 after being put in the pool is how much notice do they give you before you do the pat2?
Was about 2 weeks notice if i recall correctly. If they give you cab ranking numbers it will be easier to work out if you are a chance of a call up or not. I would call and ask where i sat in the pool if they havnt told u in next week or 2
Well just got a letter......... Criminal history check completed.
Thanks Ferret. I was thinking of ringing Mara but thought if they new our rank or wanted us to know they would have told us by now like they have done in the past. I might wait a bit like you have suggested and give her a call. Even if it's a rough guide it will be better than nothing.
Thor...did you receive a letter in the post or an email?? And was it from the MFS or the police? Did you get one Tammey?
Mfs letter.
Awesome Thor....got to be close :-)
Thanks jjj i hope so :-o
Quote from: triple j on July 25, 2011, 10:43:17 AM
Tammey.. Have they contacted your references yet?
Yes, they did it straight after the PAT 2.
Quote from: triple j on July 25, 2011, 04:43:59 PM
Thor...did you receive a letter in the post or an email?? And was it from the MFS or the police? Did you get one Tammey?
Yeah, same as Thor - Letter in post from MFS.
Thor did you need to inform the Doc about your knee recon at the medical? I have had one done years ago as well.
Yeah mate you hav to disclose all that stuff. Took a letter from my surgeon. Plus the doc checks yr joint pretty hard!!!
Cheers Thor. I should be fine if I get the chance just was curious on how deep they dig.
Good stuff mate. Any concerns see yr doctor first and get the all clear.
Thor, do they do the strength tests? The pull and push kind?
Sure do!
Anyone get interview feedback yet. And how was it??
Nothing yet, still waiting.
Quote from: Thor on July 27, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
Sure do!
Hey thor- does the doctor let u know there and then that u hav passed medical? Any info u can let us know about the experience would be great?
Yeah he does mate. Urine test and respiriatory test results r instant. If he has an issue with something u may hav to hav further tests.
Hey Ferret, any more word on how many drill squqds they will do from this intake? It seems like a massive task just to recruit 18 people?
Quote from: triple j on July 28, 2011, 10:34:19 PM
Hey Ferret, any more word on how many drill squqds they will do from this intake? It seems like a massive task just to recruit 18 people?
Ferret might know more but i have heard from a number of people in the service a range of different versions of how many squads will be taken and how many have been placed in the pool. I suppose until you are in the door on your first day anything could happen from the stories on this forum.
Quote from: JLS on July 29, 2011, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: triple j on July 28, 2011, 10:34:19 PM
Hey Ferret, any more word on how many drill squqds they will do from this intake? It seems like a massive task just to recruit 18 people?
Ferret might know more but i have heard from a number of people in the service a range of different versions of how many squads will be taken and how many have been placed in the pool. I suppose until you are in the door on your first day anything could happen from the stories on this forum.
The MFS probably dont know yet, will depend on retirements and funding i would guess.
Hey Ferret, still no feedback on interview as yet. They were supposed to start the feedback on monday and it was on a first in first served basis. I think i waited a few days before i registered for my feedback. Will keep you posted.
The word has to be out pretty soon punters!!!! good luck to you guys and girls who have made it!!
Seems to have gone very quiet on the forum..is everyone all a bit over it? Or have people heard good news?
Hi Ferret, I think u may of inboxed my message on the forum, but i'm having trouble accessing it.... My Quote was that it's a big campaign just to recruit 18 people!! and I think u may have replied to it. I want more than anything for my husband to get into the job because I know how much it means to him, but for him to not to even get an interview and one of his good mates being put on the "Maintain Fitness" list makes it hard for him. How old were u Ferret When u joined? And also thanx for all the information u have provided to everyone during this campaign..You sound like a very passionate Firefighter.
Quote from: triple j on July 30, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
Hi Ferret, I think u may of inboxed my message on the forum, but i'm having trouble accessing it.... My Quote was that it's a big campaign just to recruit 18 people!! and I think u may have replied to it. I want more than anything for my husband to get into the job because I know how much it means to him, but for him to not to even get an interview and one of his good mates being put on the "Maintain Fitness" list makes it hard for him. How old were u Ferret When u joined? And also thanx for all the information u have provided to everyone during this campaign..You sound like a very passionate Firefighter.
Thanks for that Ferret, I shall pass it on to him.
Tammey u had any word???
Has anyone had any feedback with their interviews? Thor and Tammey have you both made the drill squad?
Sorry been away from the computer, still no word, no letter. Been contacted by recruitment this week as they're chasing a reference up from the UK. Given it a helpful push and hope SAMFS will have a copy sometime tomorrow. Looks like it wont be this week but heading out for a celebratory meal tomorrow night just to toast on getting this far.
Well we've passed everything. But not told anything. Still hangin till we get a letter. Would hope it's only a formality now.
A pack of paperwork arrived at my house by Express Post about half an hour ago. In it, among lots of other stuff, is a letter hand signed by the Chief Fire Officer congratulating me & offering me a place on the recruit course starting 12th September. Champagne in the fridge and off out to celebrate tonight! :-D :-D :-D
Well done congratulations!!!!! Nothin 4 me yet. Did it come by courier??
Quote from: Thor on August 09, 2011, 12:45:35 PM
Well done congratulations!!!!! Nothin 4 me yet. Did it come by courier??
Yeah, ring of the doorbell and spookily no one there when answered ..... Just the envelope lying on the floor in front of the door.
Is there anything on your letter suggesting possible posting location such as Pirie or Mt Gambier?
No nothing to indicate where I may be posted. I didn't put down for Mt Gambier or Pt Pirie in my application.
Quote from: Tammey on August 09, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
No nothing to indicate where I may be posted. I didn't put down for Mt Gambier or Pt Pirie in my application.
Pretty sure if there was a chance you would be going to Pirie or Mt gambier they would call u before the offer of employment
Hey Gasman have you received any feedback?? Were you satisfied with it??
Well it's official.... I'm in :-D
Again officially congratulations. Exciting stuff
Have not heard a peep from them as yet ferret. Starting to wonder if i have failed that as well LOL. Well done to Tammy and Thor. I will have a drink to both of you for your success at getting there..
That's great news Thor and Tammy congratulations.I can only imagine how pumped you both must be getting those letters. Good luck for the course and for the future and hope to join you both soon.
just wondering if anyone has any info if there will be anohter drill squad
Well there will be at least one SES member in the squad. One of my members has received his call up papers and returned his SES crew kit last night.
He said he was one of 18 for this intake out of about 2000 starters so he is a VERY happy chap.
Cheers,
Oldone
I have heard a flurieu CFS member who got in has been offered a 5 year contract to Pt Pirie
Quote from: OldOne on August 11, 2011, 06:00:09 PM
Well there will be at least one SES member in the squad. One of my members has received his call up papers and returned his SES crew kit last night.
He said he was one of 18 for this intake out of about 2000 starters so he is a VERY happy chap.
Cheers,
Oldone
Pretty sure only 900 applied. But a good effort none the less.
Congratulations to you guys that got into the next squad. The 14 weeks of the drill squad are pretty full on but you will love it. It's so much fun and really hard work. You filtered are going to be the first squad to have 4 Scania's to use as well. I was in the last squad and we still had to use the old Volvo's. Enjoy guys. See you when you graduate at the end of the year. If you have any questions let me know. Still got all of my study material
Well done to all that are in the first drill squad!!
Hey Bolts, were you in the first drill squad of your recruitment year?? if not how long after the first drill squad were you notified??
Quote from: OldOne on August 11, 2011, 06:00:09 PM
Well there will be at least one SES member in the squad. One of my members has received his call up papers and returned his SES crew kit last night.
He said he was one of 18 for this intake out of about 2000 starters so he is a VERY happy chap.
Cheers,
Oldone
Got accepted by the SAMFS, so left the SASES? Why?
Quote from: Alex on August 16, 2011, 05:58:46 PM
Quote from: OldOne on August 11, 2011, 06:00:09 PM
Well there will be at least one SES member in the squad. One of my members has received his call up papers and returned his SES crew kit last night.
He said he was one of 18 for this intake out of about 2000 starters so he is a VERY happy chap.
Cheers,
Oldone
Got accepted by the SAMFS, so left the SASES? Why?
Maybe he was just using SES as a stepping stone to the MFS??
Quote from: Ferret on August 16, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
Maybe he was just using SES as a stepping stone to the MFS??
Yep same as some CFS members upgrade. So far locally we now have one join the MFS and 4 members join SAPOL, they all make excellent SES ambassadors to their new services and have new skills and knowledge they take with them and hopefully transfer some to the others in their intakes.
It's a win, win for all, SES gets dedicated operators for a number of years and their skills are never lost to the Emergency Services.
Oldone.
Win, lose in my opinion.
MFS get people with prior skills, SES lose previously dedicated members.
Sorry, seems strange to me. I know plenty of people who have MFS as primary employment and still find the time to vollunteer.
My thoughts only.
personally if i find out a new member or someone who is wanting to join is planning on using the ses for a stepping stone for sapol firies or army i don't really like accepting them they may be dedicated for 6 - 12 months by which time they are just about getting useful. Then we lose them and we've wasted 6months of volunteers time training them and the effort could have been devoted to other members.
we used to have alot of people join as for 6mths to get into sapol then vanish so now we don't take them and we are only taking people are there for their commmunity and generally they are staying 3 or 4 years which is far better for us
We also ask the same question, those that say I am just in it to train for MFS are asked to move on.
You can look at a short term members in two ways....
What WE can get out of them directly, train then for 6 months and get 3 to 4 years of as a operational members with usually the last year of low response to callouts.
Secondly what we can do to educate the community about self help, again train then for 6 months and then get about 1 to 2 years of VERY active operational response from them. When then join MFS or SAPOL they all say then will stay with SES in their spare time but with long shifts and family commitments most end up resigning. BUT they left the service with good memories and will act as positive ambassadors in the future.
I have no problems with a couple of short term members in the unit who as using SES to get community involvement experience for their future job prospects. Where else can then get that sort of "training" experience.
Oldone
i work more than the standard mfs roster and worse hours and i still find time to volunteer around family commitments so lack of time for me doesn;t really cut it. I have no problems if they commit to hang around after even if they say on one of my days off i'll be availiabe for days and commit to it which we'vehad a couple do that and no probs its great to have a guarnteed person on hand that is usually a reasonably experinced member, i just don't think we should waste training resources when we are stuggling for places on some courses anyway and most of our unit training is organised by volunteers. Normally it takes more than 6 months to get a usefull crew member sure you can get basic first aid and tools done but to get them to understand the capabilites of the equipment and what you can do with and get some jobs under their belt takes longer normally 12 to 18.
As for gettting that experince elsewhere not really our problem, if they want that experince there are courses you can pay for to get that sort of thing and then work the shutdowns in the mines or industry during leave if you are desperate or committed to entry. - before you ask yes i have been and done this a couple of times and its a great experince.
Quote from: Johnny on August 16, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Well done to all that are in the first drill squad!!
Hey Bolts, were you in the first drill squad of your recruitment year?? if not how long after the first drill squad were you notified??
Hey Johnny. I was actually in the third squad of my recruitment process. So I originally applied around Feb/March 2009, I did the interview and got cab ranked which would have been around July 2009. Then I didn't hear anything until about May 2010 when they rang me to say that they were THINKING about taking a third squad so I went and did the PAT 2 / uniform fit out / medical in June 2010 without any guarantee that they would actually do the third one. Then lucky for me in Aug 2010 I was told that I would be a member of Squad 42 starting in September. So it was a good 18 months from when I originally applied to when I finally started so it can be a really long process if you arnt in the first squad, but worth it.
I'd actually started a new job the day before they rang me to come in and do the PAT 2 so I was only there for a couple of months.
Quote from: Johnny on August 16, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Well done to all that are in the first drill squad!!
Hey Bolts, were you in the first drill squad of your recruitment year?? if not how long after the first drill squad were you notified??
Best advice I could give is: don't put your life on hold waiting to get in because you never know when or if they will call. And if u have the stay fit letter unless u are given a rank number you could be well down the list. Call mara and ask where u stand and the chance of a call up
Quote from: Ferret on August 17, 2011, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: Johnny on August 16, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Well done to all that are in the first drill squad!!
Hey Bolts, were you in the first drill squad of your recruitment year?? if not how long after the first drill squad were you notified??
Best advice I could give is: don't put your life on hold waiting to get in because you never know when or if they will call. And if u have the stay fit letter unless u are given a rank number you could be well down the list. Call mara and ask where u stand and the chance of a call up
For anyone who is interested in finding out their rank number as well I rang HR a few weeks back and was told that they hadn't planned on giving out the rank No's even though they knew what rank everyone has but maybe call back further down the track to check.
Thanks Guys. Yeah couldnt agree more. Just curious as to how long the whole process hangs around for! The waiting part i think is the worst of the whole process but definitely not putting my life on hold. Lucky enough to have a good job but still a glimmer of hope in there some where :-) Also contacted HR for a cab rank but was told they werent giving them out... not sure if they will down the track???
Quote from: Ferret on August 17, 2011, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: Johnny on August 16, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Well done to all that are in the first drill squad!!
Hey Bolts, were you in the first drill squad of your recruitment year?? if not how long after the first drill squad were you notified??
Best advice I could give is: don't put your life on hold waiting to get in because you never know when or if they will call. And if u have the stay fit letter unless u are given a rank number you could be well down the list. Call mara and ask where u stand and the chance of a call up
Hey guys- I also have spoke to HR... They wont give rank number... But I will call again early next year
Hey everyone, so any word of another Drill Squad this year? I take it everyone who received the "keep fit letters" has not heard anything further?
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Quote from: Ferret on August 17, 2011, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: Johnny on August 16, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Well done to all that are in the first drill squad!!
Hey Bolts, were you in the first drill squad of your recruitment year?? if not how long after the first drill squad were you notified??
Best advice I could give is: don't put your life on hold waiting to get in because you never know when or if they will call. And if u have the stay fit letter unless u are given a rank number you could be well down the list. Call mara and ask where u stand and the chance of a call up
For anyone who is interested in finding out their rank number as well I rang HR a few weeks back and was told that they hadn't planned on giving out the rank No's even though they knew what rank everyone has but maybe call back further down the track to check.
There wont be another one this year. No time
Hey Ferret, Have you heard anything about a Drill squad next year?
Quote from: triple j on September 06, 2011, 10:35:04 PM
Hey Ferret, Have you heard anything about a Drill squad next year?
I heard a rumor last week and that's all I'm taking it as at the moment that they may take another drill squad early next year. After that drill squad it will all depend on people leaving the service as they will already be above the level they like to keep. As I said earlier it's only a rumor and things can change quickly.
Good luck to all the guys/girls who are starting their new career on Monday.
Quote from: JLS on September 09, 2011, 03:47:16 PM
Good luck to all the guys/girls who are starting their new career on Monday.
Yeah, its a huge achievement and alot to go through, well done to all, and best of luck to those in the cab rank.
Quote from: JLS on September 09, 2011, 03:47:16 PM
Good luck to all the guys/girls who are starting their new career on Monday.
Yeah good luck to everyone, enjoy drill squad. One tip, if you make a douche bag of yourself in drill squad it will take a long time to shake the tag.
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Yeah good luck to everyone, enjoy drill squad. One tip, if you make a douche bag of yourself in drill squad it will take a long time to shake the tag.
.... the rest of your career! :-o
Give us an example!!
You NEVER shake the douche bag tag.....EVER
Quote from: Thor on September 10, 2011, 10:27:25 AM
Give us an example!!
Brown nosing to the instructors, asking questions just for the sake of asking questions or to think u are impressing the instructors. You will see what I'm talking about. There is always atleast one. It's quite interesting to see all the different personalities in the squad.
Quote from: Thor on September 10, 2011, 10:27:25 AM
Give us an example!!
People coming in from the CFS and being a "know it all"
Be humble, learn all there is to learn and you will still know nothing. DO what is asked of you then some, and above all work as a team.
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Quote from: Thor on September 10, 2011, 10:27:25 AM
Give us an example!!
People coming in from the CFS and being a "know it all"
Spot on. Even when they finish drill squad some of them think they are higher up the food chain then they actually are. If u are a "tool" everyone will soon know your name
Don't be lazy and don't become a blister
Just looking to get info regarding feed back from the interview stage. I'm in the stay fit group and was wondering if I didn't get a spot on a course if they end up giving you any feed back on your interview?
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Quote from: Thor on September 10, 2011, 10:27:25 AM
Give us an example!!
People coming in from the CFS and being a "know it all"
lmao.....as opposed to those finishing Drill Squad and thinking they know it all.... :lol:
So you get on the MFS drill squad and you have been in a busy CFS brigade for 10 years, you have a fair bit of experience with a lot of firefighting.
QuoteSo you get on the MFS drill squad and you have been in a busy CFS brigade for 10 years, you have a fair bit of experience with a lot of firefighting.
Keep it to yourself, do your CFS stuff with the CFS and do what you're told by the instructors. When you finish drill squad, still keep it to yourself, still do your CFS stuff with the CFS and follow the orders given to you by your S/O and senior F/F's.
That's strange, compartment firefighting course (CFS) had a MFS and CFS firefighters doing the instruction.
I'm not sure what you're saying tft, the " had a MFS and CFS firefighters doing the instruction" bit has thrown me!........
opps, it was more than one
so..................? :?
your point is?
So how has the course started of Thor? Is it what you expected?
Yeah its all good. Very lucky to have a great bunch of people on the squad along with very experienced instructors. Its mentally and physically demanding thats for sure. You train study eat sleep and do it all again the next day.
Well sounds like it is going to be a hard but fun road ahead Thor. You still good for some info regarding the interview down the track?
Sure mate. Biggest bit of advice is study the pid till u know every word!!!!!!
after five interviews i think i have a reasonable grasp of the pid
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
I once thought the same and obviously the media training etc would help these people alot more than the average person but they still need to pass all the same tests. What I found interesting at my written test is that there where three high level footballers two of AFL level. The two AFL guys didn't get through but the SANFL guy did. Thor do you know if he is on your squad?
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
Think this rule only applied in the 80's and 90's. Out of the last 5 or so drill squads(80 or 90 people) there would only be 2 or 3 well known(using the term very loosely) sports people It helps if you have been involved in a sporting or community club of some type because of the high reliance on team work and living together in close proximity in the SAMFS. It is a very competetive process and lots of people who would make excellent firefighters miss out, you need a lot of luck and to really sell yourself at interview. Maybe the people who are applying multiple times need to find out where they are deficient and do something about it instead of blaming the system.
Well i can honestly say i have never blamed the system, all i have ever asked for is some constructive feedback. Still waiting for the feed back from this years interview. I have tried to address any deficiency i might have but i obviously have not managed to get it quite right yet. Its all well and good to say "keep trying, you'll get there eventually" but at what cost to my business, family and close friends who try to support me through the whole process?
I am used to the whole system now and the best thing that was ever said to me was, "it's just a game, you just need to learn how to play."
Well it's back to the drawing board, more interview experience and live in hope!
Best of luck to all the new recruits and those who are still in with a chance. See the rest of you when the time comes around again. Might manage to nail it sixth time around!!
I can't explain how you get in, there seems no rhyme nor reason, you see some new one's come in that are quite possibly the worst firefighters in the entire world, and some that are just born to be firefighters. There seems to be no explanation for it, and I can tell you there are some real shockers coming through!
Quote from: pumprescue on September 19, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
I can't explain how you get in, there seems no rhyme nor reason, you see some new one's come in that are quite possibly the worst firefighters in the entire world, and some that are just born to be firefighters. There seems to be no explanation for it, and I can tell you there are some real shockers coming through!
As long as you can study the PID, sell yourself and spew out all the keywords that are on the interviewers page to tick then you are half a chance to get thru.
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
After I looked at the previous drill squad photos on the wall it looked as if you needed to be slightly overweight and balding. Or maybe that is just the life experience they're looking for.
Quote from: kj on September 19, 2011, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
After I looked at the previous drill squad photos on the wall it looked as if you needed to be slightly overweight and balding. Or maybe that is just the life experience they're looking for.
The fact that there isnt an age limit is a joke. Yeah lets recruit 50 yr olds to do a physically demanding job and get 10yrs service out of them.....
Thats happening more and more, talk about poor economy...but then again it might spread the drill squads out a bit, its interesting that the instructors and recruits are only a few hundred pay numbers apart, shows the massive gap in recruiting.
Quote from: Ferret on September 19, 2011, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: kj on September 19, 2011, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
After I looked at the previous drill squad photos on the wall it looked as if you needed to be slightly overweight and balding. Or maybe that is just the life experience they're looking for.
The fact that there isnt an age limit is a joke. Yeah lets recruit 50 yr olds to do a physically demanding job and get 10yrs service out of them.....
I may have to rely on that fact.
i Know that one on this drill squad is 50, and was offered a 5yr contract to pt pirie, maybe thats the MFS' way of getting more out of the older folk is to put them in quieter stations?
Quote from: kj on September 19, 2011, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
After I looked at the previous drill squad photos on the wall it looked as if you needed to be slightly overweight and balding. Or maybe that is just the life experience they're looking for.
Didnt they have their peak caps on in photo like the 40 previous drill squads???
Quote from: Ferret on September 20, 2011, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: kj on September 19, 2011, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: BundyBear on September 19, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
You've got it all wrong you just need to be a footballer at SANFL level or greater or a sportsperson that's been in the public limelight then you're in!
:-D
After I looked at the previous drill squad photos on the wall it looked as if you needed to be slightly overweight and balding. Or maybe that is just the life experience they're looking for.
Didnt they have their peak caps on in photo like the 40 previous drill squads???
Probably, but the story I have sounds better.
hi does anyone have any idea about any upcoming drill squads for the few in the cab rank?
and any info from the few that are in this drill squad would be a great help
Hey Ferret.... I've heard there is going to be a drill squad in February. Do you know if there is any truth to this?
Quote from: triple j on September 23, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
Hey Ferret.... I've heard there is going to be a drill squad in February. Do you know if there is any truth to this?
Is this info from people being notified for pat2 or from someone in the service triple j?
Quote from: triple j on September 23, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
Hey Ferret.... I've heard there is going to be a drill squad in February. Do you know if there is any truth to this?
Havnt heard much except that they were unsure about if there was gonna be another squad. But i must stress that this is just gossip
JLS.. this is just second hand information, so I take it with a pinch of salt. Are you still in the running?
Yeah triple j just playing the waiting game with a few others on this forum. I have heard a number of different versions as well what might or might not be happening in the next year.
so it looks like it time to keep my chin up and get back into training HARD for a maybe next year. please keep us posted if anybody hears anything.
thanks guys
You would think IF they are running a squad early next year... PAT 2 invites would go out November some time???
So ......... How's the drill squad going peoples?
Quote from: flyonthewall on September 28, 2011, 09:31:10 PM
So ......... How's the drill squad going peoples?
They are probably all too busy studying to browse forum :-D
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Quote from: flyonthewall on Yesterday at 10:31:10 PM
So ......... How's the drill squad going peoples?
They are probably all too busy studying to browse forum
So who can name all the parts of a standpipe then? :-P
Who can a couple years later....they teach some awesome stuff...and some stuff that is never used again....but oh well, its only 14 weeks out of the next 30 years....or less than 10 depending when you get on... :wink:
Quote from: flyonthewall on September 29, 2011, 06:09:46 PM
So who can name all the parts of a standpipe then? :-P
yes, very important down the street that.....study on chaps, knowledge is power
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So who can name all the parts of a standpipe then?
yes, very important down the street that.....study on chaps, knowledge is power
.....for the record, I really don't care and unless you've been there, you won't understand my little joke in that comment. :-o
OK then......I'll give you a clue .........
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Who can a couple years later....they teach some awesome stuff...and some stuff that is never used again....but oh well, its only 14 weeks out of the next 30 years....or less than 10 depending when you get on...
LOL
Study hard remember all the parts, then you are studying for something else, then next test, then next test.
A question to Thor or anyone who has been in a drill squad. How many reserves are taken to do the pat2 and medical?
Cheers
Quote from: JLS on October 12, 2011, 02:27:26 PM
A question to Thor or anyone who has been in a drill squad. How many reserves are taken to do the pat2 and medical?
Cheers
I think its only 2 usually. Have u heard something?
I Think last time they took four reserves... Why is something happening with a new drill squad?
Quote from: Ferret on October 12, 2011, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: JLS on October 12, 2011, 02:27:26 PM
A question to Thor or anyone who has been in a drill squad. How many reserves are taken to do the pat2 and medical?
Cheers
I think its only 2 usually. Have u heard something?
Just looking through the previous posts and noticed that there were either 2 or 4 reserves mentioned and was interested to see if anyone new the number who had been on a course?
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Quote from: JLS on October 12, 2011, 02:27:26 PM
A question to Thor or anyone who has been in a drill squad. How many reserves are taken to do the pat2 and medical?
Cheers
I think its only 2 usually. Have u heard something?
Just looking through the previous posts and noticed that there were either 2 or 4 reserves mentioned and was interested to see if anyone new the number who had been on a course?
Ive been on a course and you dont get told how many reserves there was, as you know u get told bugger all throughout the process. Only people who would know would be HR even the reserves wouldnt know the number, they would just know that they are a reserve. I couldnt see it being more than 2 or 3 because not many people fail once they get to pat2 and it is no big deal to call someone up if 5 happened to fail.
sounds like there is a bit of movement at the station,
is there any news about anymore drill squads?
I heard that there may possibly (99.9%)be one.
I heard some have been notified their Pat 2 will be in April
Pat 2 in april... I have heard on good authority that the next 22 were called last week to come in for pat 2 for a recruit course that begins in may. Spewin I wasnt one of them .... Hopefully they run another late next yr like they did in 2009/2010 pool.
I heard that calls went out last week informing that letters will come out by the end of the year for a recruit course at the end of March!! Either way it seems like a long time between the phone call to time of pat2.
Quote from: BT085 on October 19, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Pat 2 in april... I have heard on good authority that the next 22 were called last week to come in for pat 2 for a recruit course that begins in may. Spewin I wasnt one of them .... Hopefully they run another late next yr like they did in 2009/2010 pool.
Testing may have expired if it is too late in the year. Think psych is only valid for 12 months. Could be wrong
Quote from: JLS on October 19, 2011, 12:45:11 PM
I heard that calls went out last week informing that letters will come out by the end of the year for a recruit course at the end of March!! Either way it seems like a long time between the phone call to time of pat2.
Atleast they are keeping people informed instead of all the guessing and hearsay
Did everyone who requested feedback after the interview get it? Unfortunately when they rang me for mine i was in the hospital with my daughter and unable to take the call. They said they would call back but they never did. Going to polish up my letter writing skills and request a written response.
Sorry I probably meant May
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Quote from: BT085 on October 19, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Pat 2 in april... I have heard on good authority that the next 22 were called last week to come in for pat 2 for a recruit course that begins in may. Spewin I wasnt one of them .... Hopefully they run another late next yr like they did in 2009/2010 pool.
Testing may have expired if it is too late in the year. Think psych is only valid for 12 months. Could be wrong
Quote from: JLS on October 19, 2011, 12:45:11 PM
I heard that calls went out last week informing that letters will come out by the end of the year for a recruit course at the end of March!! Either way it seems like a long time between the phone call to time of pat2.
Quote from: BT085 on October 19, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Pat 2 in april... I have heard on good authority that the next 22 were called last week to come in for pat 2 for a recruit course that begins in may. Spewin I wasnt one of them .... Hopefully they run another late next yr like they did in 2009/2010 pool.
Does this mean there is going to be two courses early next year?
Quote from: JLS on October 20, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Quote from: JLS on October 19, 2011, 12:45:11 PM
I heard that calls went out last week informing that letters will come out by the end of the year for a recruit course at the end of March!! Either way it seems like a long time between the phone call to time of pat2.
Quote from: BT085 on October 19, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Pat 2 in april... I have heard on good authority that the next 22 were called last week to come in for pat 2 for a recruit course that begins in may. Spewin I wasnt one of them .... Hopefully they run another late next yr like they did in 2009/2010 pool.
Does this mean there is going to be two courses early next year?
Ahh the SAMFS rumour mill in full swing. Love it
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Ahh the SAMFS rumour mill in full swing. Love it
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It does seem that it's alive and well at the moment.
my turn.......
Q.) Where are they going to put all these new recruits?
A.) In the fifth seat on the appliance!
:-P
Quote from: flyonthewall on October 20, 2011, 12:21:53 PM
my turn.......
Q.) Where are they going to put all these new recruits?
A.) In the fifth seat on the appliance!
:-P
Murray Bridge might be a good start. Then Tanunda.
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my turn.......
Q.) Where are they going to put all these new recruits?
A.) In the fifth seat on the appliance!
Murray Bridge might be a good start. Then Tanunda.
......... maybe the new Mt Barker station!
Tanunda?
No I think Kapunda and Peterborough are very high risk areas that deserve fulltime staffing....
My apologies, I did mean Kapunda.
Too much wine :-D
Eudunda?
They would have to pull Eudunda station out of mothballs and re-staff it, but its a viable prospect......
Have you seen the old MFS Station at Eudunda lately......?
Very mothballed!!!
Pip
sounds like a perfect place to put some eager newbies....
Quote from: JLS on October 19, 2011, 12:45:11 PM
I heard that calls went out last week informing that letters will come out by the end of the year for a recruit course at the end of March!! Either way it seems like a long time between the phone call to time of pat2.
So, Pat2 starts week of 13/2/2012, and squad 44 starts 26/3/2012.
No probs finding places for them all, B and D shift have been regularly recalling for OT in the northern stations, plus some more Comms operators if all goes to plan
Please, no more jaded firies in comms...PLEASE!
I see the MFS website has been updated to say it is not known when the MFS will be recruiting again!! Did anyone find out if there is a recruit course scheduled for May next year as well as the March course?
Quote from: JLS on October 25, 2011, 02:39:18 PM
I see the MFS website has been updated to say it is not known when the MFS will be recruiting again!! Did anyone find out if there is a recruit course scheduled for May next year as well as the March course?
Only March at this stage
Quote from: pumprescue on October 24, 2011, 08:25:40 AM
Please, no more jaded firies in comms...PLEASE!
If some get their way it will be advertised to other Emergency Services Staff, and I reckon there would be plenty interested in jumping ship
MrT what do you mean about it being open to other emergency services? and is the march course definately going ahead? Has anyone had an invite to contest pat2?
Quote from: triple j on October 25, 2011, 06:26:44 PM
MrT what do you mean about it being open to other emergency services? and is the march course definately going ahead? Has anyone had an invite to contest pat2?
They are proposing to advertise for comms ppl internally to the likes of CFS and SES Staff, but not Voli's.
18 ppl have had ph calls to prepare for Pat2, dates as previously mentioned. Letters to come later
Thanks MrT.. are they putting any reserves through as well?
Quote from: triple j on October 25, 2011, 08:16:05 PM
Thanks MrT.. are they putting any reserves through as well?
The reserves from the last Pat2's become the first members of this next squad. 18 do Pat2, so the last ones in 'order of merit' become the next reserves incase of sickness/fail etc.
Thanks MrT.... so where do the internal people get a chance at contesting a position?
Quote from: triple j on October 26, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Thanks MrT.... so where do the internal people get a chance at contesting a position?
Not set in concrete, has to be approved by all parties first.
And given it is different to the way Comms has 'always been' then it may take time to get it approved. Union will be the first one that will have something to say im sure
Quote from: MrT on October 26, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: triple j on October 26, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Thanks MrT.... so where do the internal people get a chance at contesting a position?
Not set in concrete, has to be approved by all parties first.
And given it is different to the way Comms has 'always been' then it may take time to get it approved. Union will be the first one that will have something to say im sure
Couldnt see the Union letting it happen. Comms is a nice place for people with long term injuries to go.
Is it likely to get the go ahead before the next drill squad?
Quote from: Ferret on October 28, 2011, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: MrT on October 26, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: triple j on October 26, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Thanks MrT.... so where do the internal people get a chance at contesting a position?
Not set in concrete, has to be approved by all parties first.
And given it is different to the way Comms has 'always been' then it may take time to get it approved. Union will be the first one that will have something to say im sure
Couldnt see the Union letting it happen. Comms is a nice place for people with long term injuries to go.
It has happened before when CFS OCO's moved over to Adel Fire CommCen
Quote from: Ferret on October 28, 2011, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: MrT on October 26, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: triple j on October 26, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Thanks MrT.... so where do the internal people get a chance at contesting a position?
Not set in concrete, has to be approved by all parties first.
And given it is different to the way Comms has 'always been' then it may take time to get it approved. Union will be the first one that will have something to say im sure
I wouldn't put your house on it not happening. Having said that there will still be room for those you mentioned.
Couldnt see the Union letting it happen. Comms is a nice place for people with long term injuries to go.
Anymore news from anyone about the March Drill Squad? Is it still on the cards? anymore after that one?
Quote from: triple j on November 02, 2011, 08:10:19 PM
Anymore news from anyone about the March Drill Squad? Is it still on the cards? anymore after that one?
from Previous Post:
Pat2 starts week of 13/2/2012, and squad 44 starts 26/3/2012.
Any more.....depends upon retirements, and EBA Negotiations (if the organisation can get more staff)
Thanks MrT, You are a hive of information! How long have you been in the service?
How is it all going Thor? Over half way now? Have you picked your preference for stations yet?
surely stations are set before the course starts?? i know one on the course was signed to a contract for a station for 5 yrs
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on November 03, 2011, 05:56:12 PM
surely stations are set before the course starts?? i know one on the course was signed to a contract for a station for 5 yrs
I could be wrong as I'm not on the course but I would think the only places which would be know would be the mount or pirie.
Metro stations are on a preference list, but you can only get in once their is a vacancy, country stations are always hard to fill so by putting your hand up it can help.
ah yeah it was a 5yr contract to pirie
Quote from: triple j on November 03, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
Thanks MrT, You are a hive of information! How long have you been in the service?
Just a couple of years.
Wish I had have done it years ago. I won't be moving on ever. The flexibility for time with my family is the single best thing about the shift work. I just wish the $'s were better, but then it ain't that bad.
Quote from: MrT on November 03, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: triple j on November 03, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
Thanks MrT, You are a hive of information! How long have you been in the service?
Just a couple of years.
Wish I had have done it years ago. I won't be moving on ever. The flexibility for time with my family is the single best thing about the shift work. I just wish the $'s were better, but then it ain't that bad.
The money isnt bad for 3 months training then start on just under $60k. Money could be better but everyone knows the salary scale when they apply and there is the option to work a 2nd job to top it up. Awesome job.
As far as stations being set before drill squad, how can they give u a station before you have even passed?? Think the people who are marked to go to country are told "if u accept this offer, its more than likely you will be going to Pirie or Mt Gambier". In metro most people relieve for 2-3 years minimum before they are given a permanent station. Some people not permanent for 6/7 years depending on the waiting list at the station they want
How is everyone going on the Drill Squad? You Guys are coming close to the end?
Ferret it seems they may too busy to worry about chatting, I would suggest they finish around 16th Dec (if not then 23rd) then start work a day or 4 later depending on what shift they get
Quote from: Moose on November 22, 2011, 07:08:42 PM
Ferret it seems they may too busy to worry about chatting, I would suggest they finish around 16th Dec (if not then 23rd) then start work a day or 4 later depending on what shift they get
They graduate on the 16th, if they are lucky enough to get through...
They are starting their rotations now (-Split into groups and then rotated through different scenarios/excercises as crews), so they are roughly half way and a bit through.
I'd say well past half way, more like three quarters. Week 12 starts next week so only three weeks to go then they are firefighters... if they pass....
How many fail??
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding MR/HR licence?
I'm hoping to apply for the next selection process and haven't got my MR qualification yet.
Is it all much of a muchness? I've been quoted about $1,200 all up for MR lessons and test.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Quote from: King Prawn Curry on December 02, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding MR/HR licence?
I'm hoping to apply for the next selection process and haven't got my MR qualification yet.
Is it all much of a muchness? I've been quoted about $1,200 all up for MR lessons and test.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Mine was $850 6 years ago, so sounds fair
T
Quote from: King Prawn Curry on December 02, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Is it all much of a muchness? I've been quoted about $1,200 all up for MR lessons and test.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
I'd say get another quote....
Quote from: MrT on December 02, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: King Prawn Curry on December 02, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding MR/HR licence?
I'm hoping to apply for the next selection process and haven't got my MR qualification yet.
Is it all much of a muchness? I've been quoted about $1,200 all up for MR lessons and test.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Mine was $850 6 years ago, so sounds fair
T
Try G&L Heavy Vehicle Driving Center I got my HR licence through them for just over $1500
I did my HR through RMS training.. Cost about 1500 aswell.
Has anyone heard any rumors if applications will open early next year again or will they have a year off?
Quote from: JLS on December 09, 2011, 05:29:33 PM
Has anyone heard any rumors if applications will open early next year again or will they have a year off?
Doubt they would run another process til atleast mid year as they probably have enough for 2 more squads cab ranked
I can see that people are saying people have been notified about the second drill squad. But has anyone here ACTUALLY been notified themselves? Or are we all running on heresay as usual?
Seems the second drill squad gets a lot more warning in prep for PAT2 than first drill squad...
Quote from: senti@nt on December 13, 2011, 06:48:20 PM
I can see that people are saying people have been notified about the second drill squad. But has anyone here ACTUALLY been notified themselves? Or are we all running on heresay as usual?
Seems the second drill squad gets a lot more warning in prep for PAT2 than first drill squad...
Not really, if you applied earlier this year then you were told approximately when the pat2 was gonna be months in advance.
Quote from: Ferret on December 13, 2011, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: senti@nt on December 13, 2011, 06:48:20 PM
I can see that people are saying people have been notified about the second drill squad. But has anyone here ACTUALLY been notified themselves? Or are we all running on heresay as usual?
Seems the second drill squad gets a lot more warning in prep for PAT2 than first drill squad...
Not really, if you applied earlier this year then you were told approximately when the pat2 was gonna be months in advance.
Eh true that.
I'm still wondering if anyone has actually heard themselves that they're in. Just trying to keep my hopes up
Good luck to Thor, Tammy and the rest of the drill squad for tomorrow.
Quote from: senti@nt on December 13, 2011, 06:48:20 PM
I can see that people are saying people have been notified about the second drill squad. But has anyone here ACTUALLY been notified themselves? Or are we all running on heresay as usual?
Seems the second drill squad gets a lot more warning in prep for PAT2 than first drill squad...
Yes I can confirm, my partner has been notified of second drill squad and has a letter confirming PAT2 date.
No worries. Thanks for confirming that ABS
Quote from: ABS on December 16, 2011, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: senti@nt on December 13, 2011, 06:48:20 PM
I can see that people are saying people have been notified about the second drill squad. But has anyone here ACTUALLY been notified themselves? Or are we all running on heresay as usual?
Seems the second drill squad gets a lot more warning in prep for PAT2 than first drill squad...
Yes I can confirm, my partner has been notified of second drill squad and has a letter confirming PAT2 date.
Yeah i was also lucky enough to be included in the next squad, pretty stoked :-D
Hi Johnny! have you been offered a position in the next squad or an invititation to contest pat 2?
Quote from: triple j on December 19, 2011, 04:52:44 PM
Hi Johnny! have you been offered a position in the next squad or an invititation to contest pat 2?
Received an invite to the PAT 2 & medical / Respiratory tests... not an actual position offering
All the best then Johnny, Hope all works out for you!
pat 2 starts on the 13th feb
drill squad starts 27th march
Hey Johnny, Have they given u a booked doctors appointment? Because i would think if they have then you would have to be a certainty... Good luck
Hi Ferret.. Do u know where all the graduates were posted too?
Quote from: triple j on December 22, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
Hey Johnny, Have they given u a booked doctors appointment? Because i would think if they have then you would have to be a certainty... Good luck
everyone is advised of a follow up doctors appointment, it is only kept if you pass the pat 2.
good luck for the pat2 johnny, when is your test?
Quote from: triple j on December 22, 2011, 07:36:24 PM
Hi Ferret.. Do u know where all the graduates were posted too?
2 to port pirie. Rest to metro.
The old 2 to Port Pirie, how many over the last 10 years have gone to Port Pirie?
Quote from: triple j on December 22, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
Hey Johnny, Have they given u a booked doctors appointment? Because i would think if they have then you would have to be a certainty... Good luck
Thanks Triple J!
Doctors appointment & Respiratory are booked in a couple days after the PAT 2 (assuming you pass of course)...
Quote from: tft on December 23, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
The old 2 to Port Pirie, how many over the last 10 years have gone to Port Pirie?
Not sure on the numbers but it is a 5 year term up there now so instead of having brand new recruits every 2 years they have slightly more experienced people. Samfs want pirie locals to apply but Adelaide people are so desperate to get in a lot are saying they will go just to have a slightly better chance of getting recruited
Ferret did they get put in a relief position or a permanent station?
Quote from: Johnny on December 23, 2011, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: triple j on December 22, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
Hey Johnny, Have they given u a booked doctors appointment? Because i would think if they have then you would have to be a certainty... Good luck
Thanks Triple J!
Doctors appointment & Respiratory are booked in a couple days after the PAT 2 (assuming you pass of course)...
Well done johnny!! How old are u and how many times have u applied? Cheers
Quote from: BT085 on December 27, 2011, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: Johnny on December 23, 2011, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: triple j on December 22, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
Hey Johnny, Have they given u a booked doctors appointment? Because i would think if they have then you would have to be a certainty... Good luck
Thanks Triple J!
Doctors appointment & Respiratory are booked in a couple days after the PAT 2 (assuming you pass of course)...
Well done johnny!! How old are u and how many times have u applied? Cheers
Dont worry about age, there is 50yr olds getting in :roll:
Several of the older guys are going to pirie, but its luck of the draw, they can't get pirie locals to do retained let alone fulltime, then again the fulltime crew treat retained like crap, so thats not surprising.
Quote from: pumprescue on December 27, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Several of the older guys are going to pirie, but its luck of the draw, they can't get pirie locals to do retained let alone fulltime, then again the fulltime crew treat retained like crap, so thats not surprising.
Maybe the Pirie "locals" who are applying are not meeting the standards that the MFS sets when recruiting full time applicants. If people who live in Adelaide are desperate to get in and tick the Port Pirie box then they can only blame themselves for a 250km drive a few times a week for 5 years. Pretty sure the 5 year term was meant to deter people from doing it but obviously not
Hi all, I was one of the candidates that came out of the last interview stage with one of the "Stay Fit" letters. I've been following this forum and have read that some people who initially received "Stay Fit" letters have since been called up for the next round of tests. I unfortunately didn't receive a call up but was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on where to go from here. Is it likely that there will be another calling from this group, or is it more likely that the standard application process will begin again? Having said that though I still haven't received any further notification yet to say that my application is no longer valid. Cheers
QuotePosted on: Yesterday at 08:17:55 PMPosted by: td
Hi all, I was one of the candidates that came out of the last interview stage with one of the "Stay Fit" letters. I've been following this forum and have read that some people who initially received "Stay Fit" letters have since been called up for the next round of tests. I unfortunately didn't receive a call up but was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on where to go from here. Is it likely that there will be another calling from this group, or is it more likely that the standard application process will begin again? Having said that though I still haven't received any further notification yet to say that my application is no longer valid. Cheers
Sorry mate but it looks like youv'e missed out. Sounds like there will not be anymore drill squads and next recruitment will be a fresh intake.
Quote from: flyonthewall on January 07, 2012, 09:13:43 AM
QuotePosted on: Yesterday at 08:17:55 PMPosted by: td
Hi all, I was one of the candidates that came out of the last interview stage with one of the "Stay Fit" letters. I've been following this forum and have read that some people who initially received "Stay Fit" letters have since been called up for the next round of tests. I unfortunately didn't receive a call up but was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on where to go from here. Is it likely that there will be another calling from this group, or is it more likely that the standard application process will begin again? Having said that though I still haven't received any further notification yet to say that my application is no longer valid. Cheers
Sorry mate but it looks like youv'e missed out. Sounds like there will not be anymore drill squads and next recruitment will be a fresh intake.
The testing is only valid for 12 months(90% sure) so they can't keep u cab ranked for too long. They pretty much do the same thing every application process
Quote from: td on January 06, 2012, 08:17:55 PM
Hi all, I was one of the candidates that came out of the last interview stage with one of the "Stay Fit" letters. I've been following this forum and have read that some people who initially received "Stay Fit" letters have since been called up for the next round of tests. I unfortunately didn't receive a call up but was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on where to go from here. Is it likely that there will be another calling from this group, or is it more likely that the standard application process will begin again? Having said that though I still haven't received any further notification yet to say that my application is no longer valid. Cheers
I would suggest all is not lost. Last process they took 3 drill squads over 2 years. And with the costs involved in Advertising/Pat1/profiling/interview, I reckon if they could get another 18 out of the current list they will, it just may be 6 or more months at least.
The SAMFS budget is already overspent.
Hang tight, ya just never know.
And, they have taken 4 squads from 1 process In recent times!
The driving factor is retirements, as like any Govt department there are set 'Full Time Equivilents' that have to be adhered to. Can't recruit just cos they feel like it. Have to keep the Minister happy. Balance that with lead in time from Advertise to Graduation, and it is quite a challenge to forecast how many new recruits are required in a years time, when retirements happen at very short notice (not many say they are leaving until the last minute).
MrT
Quote from: Ferret on January 07, 2012, 09:43:41 AM
Quote from: flyonthewall on January 07, 2012, 09:13:43 AM
QuotePosted on: Yesterday at 08:17:55 PMPosted by: td
Hi all, I was one of the candidates that came out of the last interview stage with one of the "Stay Fit" letters. I've been following this forum and have read that some people who initially received "Stay Fit" letters have since been called up for the next round of tests. I unfortunately didn't receive a call up but was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on where to go from here. Is it likely that there will be another calling from this group, or is it more likely that the standard application process will begin again? Having said that though I still haven't received any further notification yet to say that my application is no longer valid. Cheers
Sorry mate but it looks like youv'e missed out. Sounds like there will not be anymore drill squads and next recruitment will be a fresh intake.
The testing is only valid for 12 months(90% sure) so they can't keep u cab ranked for too long. They pretty much do the same thing every application process
Profiling is valid for 12 months, correct Ferret. So you have til prob May 2012 (whenever you sat the profiling) for them to give the yes or no. The squad can start after that (last time they sent letters around expiry, but didn't start the squad until Sept (that was Advertised Jan/Feb 2009, 3rd squad from that process started Sept 2010)
MrT
Quote from: td on January 06, 2012, 08:17:55 PM
Hi all, I was one of the candidates that came out of the last interview stage with one of the "Stay Fit" letters. I've been following this forum and have read that some people who initially received "Stay Fit" letters have since been called up for the next round of tests. I unfortunately didn't receive a call up but was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on where to go from here. Is it likely that there will be another calling from this group, or is it more likely that the standard application process will begin again? Having said that though I still haven't received any further notification yet to say that my application is no longer valid. Cheers
Hi td, I'm in the same boat mate in waiting to see if there will be a third course. It's been mentioned on here a few times before and it's easier said than done but don't put your life on hold waiting but stay fit just in case. Having said that I have heard rumors from firies at different ranks and I would take it with a pinch of salt that they might not do another recruitment drive until next year. Also this second recruit course will get the service just above the line they like to keep so it will depend on how many retire from now to July if they need a third course. I stress this is just rumors and someone else on this forum may be able to help you out some more but good luck for the future.
Thanks for everyones advice on this. I will let you all know if i get any correspondence. Cheers
well done on even getting the stay fit letter, it is an achievement all of its own.
Quote from: gasman on January 07, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
well done on even getting the stay fit letter, it is an achievement all of its own.
Cheers for that gasman
Anyone had anymore news with their application? is the drill squad still going ahead?
Quote from: triple j on January 21, 2012, 06:30:30 PM
Anyone had anymore news with their application? is the drill squad still going ahead?
pretty sure a squad starts in march
Quote from: skip on December 21, 2011, 01:00:18 PM
pat 2 starts on the 13th feb
drill squad starts 27th march
As quoted: Confirmed, this course is going ahead
G'day Everyone, I am hopeful of getting through the March intake and was wondering if anyone could provide a bit of back ground on the 3 month training block so I can figure out what I may be in for and need to plan ahead to keep the family happy(!)?
Things like
1. Is it 5, 6 or 7 days a week at 8, 10 or 12hr days.
2. What amount of extra study is required at the end of the day (homework!)
3. Is there specific fitness sessions during the day or is that done in our own time?
If there are any other suggestions or recommendations then would be great to hear them.
Cheers
Quote from: Truck on February 12, 2012, 11:00:14 AM
G'day Everyone, I am hopeful of getting through the March intake and was wondering if anyone could provide a bit of back ground on the 3 month training block so I can figure out what I may be in for and need to plan ahead to keep the family happy(!)?
Things like
1. Is it 5, 6 or 7 days a week at 8, 10 or 12hr days.
2. What amount of extra study is required at the end of the day (homework!)
3. Is there specific fitness sessions during the day or is that done in our own time?
If there are any other suggestions or recommendations then would be great to hear them.
Cheers
I went through a few years ago. The training is monday to friday, work on the hours of 7am to 5pm, they change depending on the stage of the training you are in. There is also a night excercise where you start later in the day and work til about 10pm but this is in the last few weeks of the course and there is a full week away at Brukunga in the hills where you do live fire pad training, you stay here for the week and there is a display night where your family and friends can come up and watch you strut your stuff. There would be a average of 1hr per night required for extra study or home work, the night before an exam you made need to study a bit longer. You have PT training sessions pretty much everyday of the recruit course so there isnt much need to do any after hours unless you like to run because the majority of the PT sessions were based around core strength. Majority of guys who play footy dont play while they are in recruits incase of injury at footy because if you cant complete the course you may have to go thru the whole application process again.
Someone who has gone thru more recently may be able to add more or correct any of my info as things may have changed slightly. Good luck
5 days a week, 0700h to 1630h (ish). Week 13 you will live at the State Training Centre, Mon to Fri.
And one day is an afternoon shift with a night drill
No extra fitness reqd, you will be doing PT 3 or 4 days each week, for an hour. And in work time.
Study - generally an hour or so each night, some do more, some less. Plus extra beige each test/exam. I think there were 4 or 5 of those
Other advice: shut up and listen. No one likes a know it all.
You need to be superman for 14 weeks, then the good life begins!
MrT
Ha, looks like Ferret and I are on the same page
Good luck for the pat2 this week Johnny and Truck keep us posted.
Hey, Good luck for all the PAT 2'S this week. When do you all have your medicals? Shouldn't be that long until u get the nod!
Quote from: triple j on February 13, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
Hey, Good luck for all the PAT 2'S this week. When do you all have your medicals? Shouldn't be that long until u get the nod!
A friend of mine did Pat2 today
Medical tomorrow
T
Mr T, When will they get told that they have a position on the drill squad?
Quote from: triple j on February 13, 2012, 06:59:28 PM
Mr T, When will they get told that they have a position on the drill squad?
Once they have all passed medicals.
Usually 4 or 5 days after the last medical
MrT
Johnny and the rest of you guys, How have you all gone in your Pat 2's and medicals?
Cheers for the info re the training block fellas. Really helpful. Interesting to read any injury and you have to start the whole process again. Tough break if it happened.
...next step wait and see!
Quote from: Truck on February 15, 2012, 06:33:15 PM
Cheers for the info re the training block fellas. Really helpful. Interesting to read any injury and you have to start the whole process again. Tough break if it happened.
...next step wait and see!
if you are injured during recruits you are fine but an injury when off duty is problem because if you can't complete the drill squad there is no guarantee when the next one starts
Quote from: triple j on February 14, 2012, 06:54:57 PM
Johnny and the rest of you guys, How have you all gone in your Pat 2's and medicals?
Hi All, Got through the PAT 2 all ok. Medical to go...
All the best Truck and Johnny....Have they told you when u might get a job offer?
Its gone pretty quiet on the forum! Has anyone got any good news yet?
Quote from: triple j on February 21, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
Its gone pretty quiet on the forum! Has anyone got any good news yet?
If they pass the pat2 and medical they get a job. Simple
There were a bunch of guys running the Pat 2 last week, so can't be long now.
...have not heard anything. May be end of the week or start of next...
This is like waiting for the second coming of christ!
when will we know?
Quote from: skip on February 22, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
This is like waiting for the second coming of christ!
when will we know?
you didnt get the page?....deferred due to budget issues :lol:
good luck with it all
Quote from: skip on February 22, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
This is like waiting for the second coming of christ!
when will we know?
I'd like to think you would have a letter by this Friday, so you can give your employer 1 months notice
Quote from: MrT on February 22, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: skip on February 22, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
This is like waiting for the second coming of christ!
when will we know?
I'd like to think you would have a letter by this Friday, so you can give your employer 1 months notice
Are the MFS required to give you 4 weeks to give notice?
Quote from: JLS on February 23, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
Quote from: MrT on February 22, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: skip on February 22, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
This is like waiting for the second coming of christ!
when will we know?
I'd like to think you would have a letter by this Friday, so you can give your employer 1 months notice
Are the MFS required to give you 4 weeks to give notice?
No, it is just to allow new recruits to give enough time. Most employers fall below 4 weeks, but it is more goodwill.
I suspect it is more about 18 ppl accepting the offer, and giving the recruit instructors enough time to organise TRK's, uniforms, lockers, induction. Starting 18 new employees at once is obviously a lot of work compared to a 'normal' job where you start just 1 or 2 together
Mr..T whats are TRK's?
Quote from: MrT on February 23, 2012, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: JLS on February 23, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
Quote from: MrT on February 22, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: skip on February 22, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
This is like waiting for the second coming of christ!
when will we know?
I'd like to think you would have a letter by this Friday, so you can give your employer 1 months notice
Are the MFS required to give you 4 weeks to give notice?
No, it is just to allow new recruits to give enough time. Most employers fall below 4 weeks, but it is more goodwill.
I suspect it is more about 18 ppl accepting the offer, and giving the recruit instructors enough time to organise TRK's, uniforms, lockers, induction. Starting 18 new employees at once is obviously a lot of work compared to a 'normal' job where you start just 1 or 2 together
Pretty sure the 4 weeks is for recruits to give notice and make other arrangements in their lives. Many may be dropping a lot of money in pay for the 14 weeks and have to organise other parts of their lives.
Pretty sure the instructors would be organised already, its not like its the first ever drill squad. Hardest thing they have to do is write the recruits names on their lockers :-D :-D
Quote from: triple j on February 23, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
Mr..T whats are TRK's?
Oops, sorry. I have spent to much time in the training environment.
Training Resource Kits. So the folders/learner guides/trainer assessor guides etc
Given the cost of preparing, and the contents having to be current, most organizations won't print/make too many in advance, just so they don't have to edit pages, or throw them away.
How did you go guys? did you get your letters today?
Truck/Johnny have they been in contact with your referees yet?
Quote from: JLS on February 25, 2012, 07:33:11 AM
Truck/Johnny have they been in contact with your referees yet?
I shouldn't laugh but its funny. I was the same a few years ago. Don't try to guess or presume when things will happen. It will all happen eventually. If you have passed medical and pat2 you will get an offer. They just take their sweet time
Surely you guys will get your offers this coming week!
How did you go guys? are you in????????????
Its Gone very quiet again....
Quote from: triple j on February 28, 2012, 02:32:31 PM
Its Gone very quiet again....
Its government, you dont expect things to happen quickly do you??
Has anyone got any news yet?
you didnt get the page?....deferred due to budget issues :lol:
good luck with it all
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Maybe the course has been deferred!!!!!!!
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
Quote from: triple j on March 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
There are 3 or 4 having to re do respiratory medicals, and the 'can you do Pirie or Mt Gambier' ph calls have happened this week too. 'They' are saying letters of offer this week
MrT
Quote from: MrT on March 05, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: triple j on March 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
There are 3 or 4 having to re do respiratory medicals, and the 'can you do Pirie or Mt Gambier' ph calls have happened this week too. 'They' are saying letters of offer this week
MrT
Are you aware if extra people have been put through the pat2 just in case then?
Quote from: MrT on March 05, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: triple j on March 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
There are 3 or 4 having to re do respiratory medicals, and the 'can you do Pirie or Mt Gambier' ph calls have happened this week too. 'They' are saying letters of offer this week
MrT
Mr T, is it a "can you do" regional or a "will you do". I thought if they ticked the willing to go regional box then they wouldnt have a choice.
I would guess that maybe 2 extras did pat2 but they would have been told they were spares
Is having to redo the respiratory/ medical tests again a regular occurrence then? Also I assume it's not a one of test like the pat2 in that you fail the first one and that's it?
Quote from: JLS on March 06, 2012, 09:06:53 AM
Is having to redo the respiratory/ medical tests again a regular occurrence then? Also I assume it's not a one of test like the pat2 in that you fail the first one and that's it?
Doubt it would be a regular occurence.Cant compare the lung testing to pat2 as far as pass/fail goes. Im sure there is a legitimate reason why they are being retested, maybe a machine was faulty or something. Or maybe they have gone even older this recruitment and the 60-70yr olds had trouble expiring hard enough :-D :-D
If that's the case at least I have a good 40 years of trying to get in. If I haven't got in by then I might just have to give up. :-D
Quote from: Ferret on March 06, 2012, 07:53:31 AM
Quote from: MrT on March 05, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: triple j on March 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
There are 3 or 4 having to re do respiratory medicals, and the 'can you do Pirie or Mt Gambier' ph calls have happened this week too. 'They' are saying letters of offer this week
MrT
Mr T, is it a "can you do" regional or a "will you do". I thought if they ticked the willing to go regional box then they wouldnt have a choice.
I would guess that maybe 2 extras did pat2 but they would have been told they were spares
I didn't word that quite right, sorry. If you ticked the box you get the choice. Then if all regional spots are not
filled then you get an offer based on 'you must' go regional. If you say no, they move in tithe next one on the list
Quote from: triple j on March 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
Job offer packages arrived in mail boxes yesterday.
Thunderbirds are go!
Quote from: MrT on March 09, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: triple j on March 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Maybe it has.... Truck, Johnny, Ferret or Mr T can you shed any light on it?
Job offer packages arrived in mail boxes yesterday.
Thunderbirds are go!
I heard a few maybe of to pirie and one unlucky person didn't pass the testing this time around.
Geez they left this late, not even sure i am within the required time to give notice! Whats the chances of failing the 6month probation period, got an offer but the letter recommends organising leave without pay from current job...not a chance, particularly if i tell them I am gone in two weeks!
Quote from: Truck on March 12, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
Geez they left this late, not even sure i am within the required time to give notice! Whats the chances of failing the 6month probation period, got an offer but the letter recommends organising leave without pay from current job...not a chance, particularly if i tell them I am gone in two weeks!
Not many fail, there is a whole lot invested in getting you this far.
So long as you can follow instructions, and are polite, there should be no issues. Be prepared to study, be at APTC before 7am each day, and be physically and mentally drained and all will be cool.
See you soon on a BRT
APTC: Angle Park Training Centre
BRT: Big Red Truck
Well done Truck... Enjoy the drill squad. Johnny, How did you go?
Quote from: triple j on March 13, 2012, 08:18:41 AM
Well done Truck... Enjoy the drill squad. Johnny, How did you go?
Hi Guys, all good! Received letter last week :-D
G'day fellas, thanks for all the feedback and discussions....super pumped about getting in/through, can't wait to get stuck into the drill squad training! Bit delayed writing this as flat out trying to get stuff sorted!
Well done guys! I bet you are both pumped. Is there a "Meet and Greet" session before you start for all the recruits?
Quote from: triple j on March 19, 2012, 03:26:47 PM
Well done guys! I bet you are both pumped. Is there a "Meet and Greet" session before you start for all the recruits?
Usually the week before you start there is the opportunity to take your family along to meet the other recruits and some of the instructors and some MFS big wigs
More suckers starting tommorow! Where are they all going to fit?
Good luck to all :-)
good luck for tomorrow for all the lucky ones! Will the new recruits get permanent stations or are they likely to relieve for a few months/years?
Quote from: triple j on March 25, 2012, 02:09:24 PM
good luck for tomorrow for all the lucky ones! Will the new recruits get permanent stations or are they likely to relieve for a few months/years?
The only ones who get permanent spots will be at Pt Pirie or Mt gambier :-D :-D The rest can expect to relieve for a few years
Good luck for tomorrow guys and girls.
Out of interest, any females in this squad?
hows the squad going Truck and Johnny?
Quote from: flyonthewall on March 25, 2012, 10:13:54 AM
More suckers starting tommorow! Where are they all going to fit?
Good luck to all :-)
Suckers?
Is that a massive chip on your shoulder or what???
I would say a big congrats to all embarking on their new careers!!
Seeya on the BRTs soon
QuoteSuckers?
Is that a massive chip on your shoulder or what???
I would say a big congrats to all embarking on their new careers!!
Seeya on the BRTs soon
No chips here.
Anyone know how they drill squad is going? Truck/Johnny?
Quote from: triple j on April 08, 2012, 07:09:04 PM
Anyone know how they drill squad is going? Truck/Johnny?
I think they are told not to say much in social media sites so may not answer
QuotePosted on: Yesterday at 06:34:13 PMPosted by: Ferret
Quote from: triple j on April 08, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
Anyone know how they drill squad is going? Truck/Johnny?
I think they are told not to say much in social media sites so may not answer
Yep, there have been issues in the past.
Quote from: Ferret on March 25, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: triple j on March 25, 2012, 02:09:24 PM
good luck for tomorrow for all the lucky ones! Will the new recruits get permanent stations or are they likely to relieve for a few months/years?
The only ones who get permanent spots will be at Pt Pirie or Mt gambier :-D :-D The rest can expect to relieve for a few years
One of my Officers in Drill Squad waited 11 years for his permanent spot @ Christies, but then I got mine in 9 months. hard to pick who will move when, it all ends up luck of the draw. Once in you can keep feelers out for who is moving when, but you never really know
I'm realising really quickly that everything associated with the recruitment process is very tight lipped. Keeps the process honest and fair for everyone i guess. However, in contradiction to that statement, has anyone heard any further rumours with regards to another squad to be chosen from last years selections. It's now months on with two squads selected and probably numerous potential candidates like myself who still sit with fingers crossed as we haven't got the dreaded final notification to say better luck next time.
Quote from: td on April 30, 2012, 09:04:15 PM
I'm realising really quickly that everything associated with the recruitment process is very tight lipped. Keeps the process honest and fair for everyone i guess. However, in contradiction to that statement, has anyone heard any further rumours with regards to another squad to be chosen from last years selections. It's now months on with two squads selected and probably numerous potential candidates like myself who still sit with fingers crossed as we haven't got the dreaded final notification to say better luck next time.
If it doesnt happen soon then your testing will expire, only last 12 months(i think). Samfs would be waiting to see how many people are going to retire at end of financial year i would guess before they make a decision
Im in the same position as you td.. in fact i think there seems to be a lot of us.. ive spoken to mara a few times over the last 6 montgs and about a month ago she said to me exactly wat ferret said... they will decide depending on retirements EOFY. however if it goes by 2009/2010 intake the third squad was notufied in may 2010 that to come in for pat2 but not sure if they r running a third ssquad. they reason they called them in to do pat2 in may was bcos of wat ferret said is correct... (the accreditted psych test we did does only last 1 year.. So i get a feeling that if there is a chance then it would be this month that third squad ppl will b called... but be told "maybe" dependin on retirements... who really knows though... its fun guessing! wat really would b good to know is how many pol like u and me td got that "strongly recommend you maintain your fitness"... Its a very leading statement which i now wish was not used haha!
Quote from: BT085 on May 03, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
Im in the same position as you td.. in fact i think there seems to be a lot of us.. ive spoken to mara a few times over the last 6 montgs and about a month ago she said to me exactly wat ferret said... they will decide depending on retirements EOFY. however if it goes by 2009/2010 intake the third squad was notufied in may 2010 that to come in for pat2 but not sure if they r running a third ssquad. they reason they called them in to do pat2 in may was bcos of wat ferret said is correct... (the accreditted psych test we did does only last 1 year.. So i get a feeling that if there is a chance then it would be this month that third squad ppl will b called... but be told "maybe" dependin on retirements... who really knows though... its fun guessing! wat really would b good to know is how many pol like u and me td got that "strongly recommend you maintain your fitness"... Its a very leading statement which i now wish was not used haha!
When i got in a few years ago, 100 were cabb ranked after the interviews so i would guess it would be a similar number this time
Did u get in the first lot of 18 ferret?
Quote from: BT085 on May 04, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
Did u get in the first lot of 18 ferret?
No had to wait around and try to guess what would happen next. Best piece of advice, dont put your life on hold waiting for it to happen. But when i was waiting we were given a ranking number so we knew where we stood as far as if they decided to do another squad would we be in it or not
end of may so guessing its back to the drawing board to reapply again
i got the 'keep fit' letter too
bummer! but ill keep trying.
Quote from: MB on June 02, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
end of may so guessing its back to the drawing board to reapply again
i got the 'keep fit' letter too
bummer! but ill keep trying.
When did you guys do the Psych test? I wonder how strict they are on the 12 month expiry?
Because, the budget for the 2012/2013 fin yr shows funding for 36 recruits! I hope at least 18 come from the current cab rank
MrT
My psych test was done in the first week in May 2011. So hopefully the 12 month expiry is just a guideline. Fingers crossed there's still a chance for us that are still (possibly) in the running!
Quote from: MrT on June 02, 2012, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: MB on June 02, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
end of may so guessing its back to the drawing board to reapply again
i got the 'keep fit' letter too
bummer! but ill keep trying.
When did you guys do the Psych test? I wonder how strict they are on the 12 month expiry?
Because, the budget for the 2012/2013 fin yr shows funding for 36 recruits! I hope at least 18 come from the current can rank
MrT
I would think if they were going to use some of the cab ranked guys for the next squad they would hear in the next month or so. At a guess i would say they will run another application process because the current squad going through will cover any retirements this year and the next round of retirements would be end of next financial year( most people retire end of financial year, as a guide). Pretty sure the 12 month restricition on psych testing is pretty firm
i was in the first week of may also.
i beleive they held it every day the first week.
ive been told psych testing is quite firm too.
never know though fingers crossed,but atleast i know what to expect for next year,
im sure they see the same names pop up each year and keep that info on hand.
Quote from: MrT on June 02, 2012, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: MB on June 02, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
end of may so guessing its back to the drawing board to reapply again
i got the 'keep fit' letter too
bummer! but ill keep trying.
When did you guys do the Psych test? I wonder how strict they are on the 12 month expiry?
Because, the budget for the 2012/2013 fin yr shows funding for 36 recruits! I hope at least 18 come from the current cab rank
MrT
If they only have funding for 2 squads next year, i would guess that they would run a new process for the 2 squads rather then go through the whole process just to take 18 people. But who really knows?? its nice to guess. Not much fun for the guys/girls with the keep fit letters, thay should give you a number so you have a bit of an idea where you sit and what your chances are
Once again it comes down to not getting your hopes too high. There will always be another intake, just keep on plugging away.