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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: rescue5271 on June 25, 2008, 04:26:27 PM

Title: Where does it go??
Post by: rescue5271 on June 25, 2008, 04:26:27 PM
Does anyone know when CFS sell their old appliances where does that money go does it go back into CFS for new appliances or does it just float away?? If it does go back into cfs then where is it spent??
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 25, 2008, 04:42:25 PM
no idea but a very good question..sometimes they can fetch quite a bit of $$$$$$ depending of age and condition
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Pipster on June 25, 2008, 05:19:08 PM
When sold at Government Auction, they seems to sell for around $20,000 each.   

Not sure where the funds go...

It has been some time since an appliance was sold at the Government Auction, but they seem to be very slow to sell, and often go up two or three times before being sold.... there doesn't appear to be a huge market for old fire trucks...

Pip
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: rescue5271 on June 25, 2008, 05:36:05 PM
Last week the CFA had their auction of around 35 appliances(30 hino tankers,2 type 2 small town pumpers and some old rescue units) all where sold by Tender so there is a life for the old appliances may be we need to look at better advertising for the auctions..
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 25, 2008, 06:13:50 PM
all of us farmers have one for a fire unit or spray unit...maybe thats why there slow  :wink:
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: 6739264 on June 25, 2008, 07:23:03 PM
Thus for every 20 old fire trucks at $20k, the CFS can buy a brand new, fully stowed Heavy Pumper!
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: safireservice on June 25, 2008, 07:34:49 PM
Probably goes into govt. revenue, cant see it going back to the CFS.
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: SA Firey on June 25, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
The Hino's have been fetching up to $23,000 at the State Supply auction even the old Wilpena 24 went for a mint.

They then show up at truckyards for around $35-42,000
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Pipster on June 26, 2008, 04:11:47 PM
And they sit in the truck yards for months, and years, not selling.......  :wink:
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 26, 2008, 04:33:55 PM
they shuld just send them to KI ...would save takin trucks from mainland and be one less logistical nightmare
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Cameron Yelland on June 26, 2008, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: mac13 on June 26, 2008, 04:33:55 PM
they shuld just send them to KI ...would save takin trucks from mainland and be one less logistical nightmare

They already do this.  There was 5 or 10? trucks this year.

Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Pipster on June 26, 2008, 09:42:31 PM
Five......

Any appliance retired from its brigade, which might be suitable for use, is sent to other brigades...... those sent to auction are generally sent to auction because they are no longer suitable for CFS use (eg mechanical issues - or just a lack of availability of parts should they be required,  pump is stuffed, the body is rusting etc etc etc

Pip
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: bittenyakka on June 26, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
and then the idea behind the 5 trucks on KI failed.
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 26, 2008, 10:14:07 PM
its certainly an interesting topic...one day there will be a sever glut of old trucks....
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: pumprescue on June 28, 2008, 05:16:38 AM
There will be a massive glut in the next few years, in the late 80's early 90's they were buying up to 90 24/34's a year, so there will be a massive problem.
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: OMGWTF on June 28, 2008, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: bittenyakka on June 26, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
and then the idea behind the 5 trucks on KI failed.

how so?
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: bittenyakka on June 28, 2008, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: OMGWTF on June 28, 2008, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: bittenyakka on June 26, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
and then the idea behind the 5 trucks on KI failed.

how so?

their stowage was not really enough to be classed as a fire truck. And originally planned to be for the first strike team of crews flown in to KI the locals had taken the trucks so we had nothing to use (mind you you can;t blame them)
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 28, 2008, 10:06:28 AM
ya would think cfs will hopefully learn from it and make sure those 5 trucks are up to scratch for next year...hey why not send more put twenty spare ones over there mite just help in first 24 hours
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: rescue5271 on June 28, 2008, 01:43:56 PM
and it may help reduce the damage and stealing that is done from appliances that go over there from the main land..... :roll:
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: bittenyakka on June 28, 2008, 05:00:05 PM
It was a big surprise going over there and finding trucks with little useful stowage, crews with little no or half their ppe and many people who seem to just spring up when there is a fire and don;t even know where stuff is stored on their truck. Very different to around here. 
Title: Re: Where does it go??
Post by: SA Firey on June 29, 2008, 01:52:12 PM
Where does it go?.......back into the government coffers :?