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Quote from: mack on Today at 01:49:31 PM
UP TO 20 PEOPLE MISSING NEAR GRANITE ISLAND ALL BOATS AND CREWS REQUIRED URGENT VMR 521
Nice to see it took 6 incidents for south coast SES to call in some assistance with storm damage albiet from yankalilla.
5 jobs on the go and then they get this
1908073 13:39:32 02-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 44 - 02/07/07 13:39,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,FOSTER PL,GOOLWA, MAP 307 L 6 ,,GARDEN SHED ABOUT TO BLOW INTO NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR HOUSE. MRS LEWIS 8555**** P2,79550 73229*CFSRES
Only 300metres from our station.
Yes i realise storm damage isn't our primary job but with this many calls shouldn't they be passing some of these jobs onto CFS?
Yes they should be passing on these calls to the nearest brigade/service
SES don't think like a fire service.......They run job boards which fill up and they will work all night finishing all the jobs and clearing the board.
Fire Services call in resources until each job has been resourced.....
20:03:56 02-07-07 MENG: PLS BE AWRAE THAT MFS MAY NOT BE ON ALERTS CALLS. BRIGADES WILL HAVE TO TAKE DETAILS AND CALL MFS ON 84129007 TO ACTIVATE PAGERS. CFS COMMS MANAGER IS AWARE. CRNG COMMS OFFICER. 2/07/2007 8:03:35 PM
Seems like a big step backwards. Hope only a brief glitch in the new system.
1927478 18:42:00 02-07-07 AS12 at a burns case 11 wk old with blistered genitals from nappy that was in microwave - they are ICP -
Some parents should have to get a licence to have children... Poor kid. :-o
10:16:58 03-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 43 - 03/07/07 10:16,RESPOND Private Alarm,MT BARKER POLICE STATION,64 GAWLER ST,MT BARKER, MAP 172 M 8 ,,FIRE ARMS STORE,1279*CFSRES:
oh scheiße....it betta just be a false alarm....
Quote from: sapolpd on July 03, 2007, 12:11:54 AM
1927478 18:42:00 02-07-07 AS12 at a burns case 11 wk old with blistered genitals from nappy that was in microwave - they are ICP -
Some parents should have to get a licence to have children... Poor kid. :-o
Could'nt believe my eyes when I read that one :-o
1909114 23:21:30 03-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 109 - 03/07/07 23:21,RESPOND Private Alarm,BAROSSA VALLEY RD,ROWLAND FLAT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ORLANDO. AREA 13, WAREHOUSE FIRE PANEL,20624*CFSRES:
Lyndoch have a job but they didnt get this page in full for some reason
Quote from: SA Firey on July 03, 2007, 10:58:50 PM
1909114 23:21:30 03-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 109 - 03/07/07 23:21,RESPOND Private Alarm,BAROSSA VALLEY RD,ROWLAND FLAT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ORLANDO. AREA 13, WAREHOUSE FIRE PANEL,20624*CFSRES:
Lyndoch have a job but they didnt get this page in full for some reason
how so?
Yeah, looks pretty darn good to me?
Listening on the scanner they only got half the page the rest gobledegook....ended up responding 9 minutes later though :wink:
lol - well pager corruption happens everywhere every day.... i sit to close to the TV and my pager doesnt work. :|
1909366 17:54:12 08-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 08/07/07 17:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KALANGADOO CFS,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR 721372 RAPID NO,5688*CFSRES:
The first emergency page from Adelaide Fire to Kalangadoo CFS even though they spelled wepar wrong it was a good message :-) yes i did go to the incident but didnt get off the truck cause someone was needed for spotlighting to see if the driver was hiding in the paddock somewhere
Oh.. I thought you put it in the interesting page cause it was actually a callout.. :P
Just kidding rob.. hee hee 8-)
Quote from: Robert34 on July 08, 2007, 08:11:49 PM
1909366 17:54:12 08-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 08/07/07 17:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KALANGADOO CFS,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR 721372 RAPID NO,5688*CFSRES:
. . . . it was a good message :-) . . . .
What exactly consitutes a bad message?
The poor comms brigade took five mintues to figure out which brigades had been paged (same message sent to a couple of brigades). By the time they put their glasses on, fished out the MFS appliance code list and . . . BINGO!
Does anyone else think the page could be laid out a little more clearly, possibly:
1909366 MFS: KALANGADOO RESPOND Vehicle Accident, KALANGADOO. MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR RAPID NO 721372,5688 DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 17:54:12 08-07-07*CFSRES:
Actually littlejohn only Kalangadoo was dispatched along with SAAS NG81 & MG81 but yeah i agree that it could have been laid out abit more clearly however our brigade knows the back roads like Medhurst and Wepar very well :-)
Quote from: littlejohn on July 09, 2007, 07:31:14 AM
Quote from: Robert34 on July 08, 2007, 08:11:49 PM
1909366 17:54:12 08-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 08/07/07 17:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KALANGADOO CFS,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR 721372 RAPID NO,5688*CFSRES:
. . . . it was a good message :-) . . . .
What exactly consitutes a bad message?
i dunno... including a rescue resource might havebeen good though? i dunno what went on with this job though..
It was an RCR with no entrapments cause like i said before the driver bailed out after crashing his car although were not sure if he walked back to town or called a mate to pick him up :|
Quote from: Robert34 on July 09, 2007, 10:27:34 AM
Actually littlejohn only Kalangadoo was dispatched . . . . . .
Robert, Millicent Rescue was also paged (which created confusion with Comms, as the accident was in Penola's area), but they were stop-called enroute after your crew confirmed no entrapments.
I understand SAPOL spent some time trying to track down the driver, who was nowhere to be found.
Technically littlejohn Wepar Road is on the borderline between Millicent and Penola Rescue response areas so i can imagine it would have caused confusion, yes SAPOL did spend some time trying to locate the driver but couldnt find him
They found him at home apparently.
It sounds like he called a mate to come and pick him up :-o i wonder if he had any cuts or grazes :|
hmm...this sounds very much like the MVA > Search at woodside early yesterday....pretty much the same! :-o
Yeah it sounds like it Dezza although we had 2 SAPOL cars on scene who did the land search with aid of local farmers on Medhurst Road i suggested to one of the SAPOL officers why not turn it into a land search or bring out the sniffer dogs :lol:
For the SAAS Guru's .. :
1925616 09:01:28 11-07-07 HQ401 Cat2 Cnr Florence St, Fullarton 131 A6
Is this a Commander or SOT or in ICP/CTL ? .. - Or something totally different..
i believe it is a paramedic crew. persons working on secondment in HQ still have there quals, and are able to respond to jobs in one of the busses kept there... i think there only usually used when SAAS are a bit stretched, btu i spose since its just around the corner...
Thanks :-) .. Had never seen the call sign before.
Quote from: RescueHazmat on July 11, 2007, 08:47:09 AM
For the SAAS Guru's .. :
1925616 09:01:28 11-07-07 HQ401 Cat2 Cnr Florence St, Fullarton 131 A6
Is this a Commander or SOT or in ICP/CTL ? .. - Or something totally different..
It is Fleet 401 CTL or Crew Team Leaders car :wink:
r u sure SAFirey?
i have been told it is crewed by either paramedics or ICPs seconded to HQ for other duties? i dont believe its a normal on the road car.
Whichever it is, CTL is Clinical Team Leader. :-)
This means it is a HQ spare fleet ambulance,they give the 40 code to ambulances on standby at sporting or non-operational tasks,in this case 401, if there were more than one it would get 402, occasionally they may be needed to respond. As to what level of crewing they could have been anything from AOs to ICPs, but probably paramedics or ICparamedics being a Cat2 they were responding to.
Cheers.
For info they were downgraded to Cat3 shortly after.
Thanks for all the info.. :)
1909029 13:07:00 14-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 35 - 14/07/07 13:06,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,STRATHALBYN CFS,STRATHALBYN, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STRATHALBYN TO GOOLWA RD, 10KM FROM STRATHALBYN. 2 X MOTORBIKES,73329 1558*CFSRES:
1908895 13:13:59 14-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 35 - 14/07/07 13:14,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,STRATHALBYN CFS,STRATHALBYN, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STRATH TO GOOLWA RD, 10 KM FROM STRATHALBYN. 2 MOTORBIKES. DEFAULT FOR SES.,18119*CFSRES: Mt Compass response
Hmmm interesting obviously they don't read the RCR resource directory for the correct 2nd rescue :|
Then take it up with the relevant people... Dont use this medium as an MFS bashing tool.
1909366 10:49:52 15-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 25 - 15/07/07 10:49,RESPOND RCR,KALANGADOO TOWN,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER INJ UNKNOWN NANGWARRY ROAD 2 KM EAST,5749 5688*CFSRES:
Kalangadoo brigade's second callout page sent from Adelaide Fire the interesting thing is that we had no driver or crew except for me as i was the only one who rocked up at the station :-) meaning that it was my responsibility to radio Wattle Range Base and inform we had no crew or driver
your a good lad robert so i take it you have done ya BFF1 now??
Nah blinky everything has been sorted out now :-)i responded right away after reading it was an RCR but still i cant quite put my finger on why there wasnt anyone in town today :? after all the message said injuries unknown that should have resulted in a good crew turn out
I was tempted to set the station siren off but was advised by Wattle Range Base to wait around after getting on the radio to acknowledge our page when no-one turned up i radioed back and advised we had no crew at all
How does this qualify as an interesting pager message? Is it interesting because Kalangadoo actually had a call out? or that they had no crew?
Two MVA's in a week in the doo
Hey i'm interested, 2 calls in a week thats like a busy brigade doing 30 calls in a week, almost a record :-P
13:06:46 16-07-07 SE6 Cat2 Western Hwy, Coonalpyn POLICE REQUIRED
MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 31 - 16/07/07 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TINTINARA CFS,TINTINARA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,1 TRAPPED. ON HIGHWAY HALFWAY BETWEEN COONALPYN AND TINTINARA,30419 30624*CFSRES:
This could be confusing, Coonalpyn and Tintinara are on the Dukes Highway albeit the highway does continue as the Western Highway, but only when it enters Victoria. Hope SE6 is familiar with the area.
Quote from: Mundcfs on July 16, 2007, 08:50:34 AM
Hey i'm interested, 2 calls in a week thats like a busy brigade doing 30 calls in a week, almost a record :-P
It was the second Sunday in a row Kalangadoo has gotten called to an RCR which is really unusual especially seeing as how were a non RCR brigade :? If what happened yesterday with no crew but me being available happens during a Fire Ban Day this coming season well were gonna be in alot of trouble :|
Quote from: mengcfs on July 16, 2007, 12:54:47 PM
13:06:46 16-07-07 SE6 Cat2 Western Hwy, Coonalpyn POLICE REQUIRED
MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 31 - 16/07/07 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TINTINARA CFS,TINTINARA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,1 TRAPPED. ON HIGHWAY HALFWAY BETWEEN COONALPYN AND TINTINARA,30419 30624*CFSRES:
This could be confusing, Coonalpyn and Tintinara are on the Dukes Highway albeit the highway does continue as the Western Highway, but only when it enters Victoria. Hope SE6 is familiar with the area.
SE6 is (I believe) a RTL ... Probably backing up a Paramedic Bus or vollie crew.
1909213 19:04:38 16-07-07 ANY PERSON WISHING TO HAVE MORNING TEA WITH THE PRIME MINISTER FRI 20TH JULY - 10.30 AM - 12.30 PM AT EVANSTOWN - PLS CONTACT DBA CAPTAIN ################
07:34:50 17-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 17 - 17/07/07 07:34,RESPOND Tree Down,POUND RD,ASHTON, MAP 121 Q 12 ,,TREE ACROSS RD. CONTACT name - number. P2,72220*CFSRES: SES Campbelltown Response
now thats a bit far from there response area ey!.....and in terms of closest availble resource...wouldnt it be Norton Summit/Ashton???
Pound Road is definitely Norton Summits area....and Campbelltown would have to drive past the front door of Norton Summit station to get to the tree, or if they came up another way, past Montacute & Cherryville stations....
Pip
Quote from: Dezza on July 17, 2007, 09:29:02 AM
07:34:50 17-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 17 - 17/07/07 07:34,RESPOND Tree Down,POUND RD,ASHTON, MAP 121 Q 12 ,,TREE ACROSS RD. CONTACT DAVID DUFFY - 83920172. P2,72220*CFSRES: SES Campbelltown Response
now thats a bit far from there response area ey!.....and in terms of closest availble resource...wouldnt it be Norton Summit/Ashton???
Bring on SACAD & then the computer database will be combined properly...
Quote from: RescueHazmat on July 16, 2007, 05:27:22 PM
Quote from: mengcfs on July 16, 2007, 12:54:47 PM
13:06:46 16-07-07 SE6 Cat2 Western Hwy, Coonalpyn POLICE REQUIRED
MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 31 - 16/07/07 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TINTINARA CFS,TINTINARA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,1 TRAPPED. ON HIGHWAY HALFWAY BETWEEN COONALPYN AND TINTINARA,30419 30624*CFSRES:
This could be confusing, Coonalpyn and Tintinara are on the Dukes Highway albeit the highway does continue as the Western Highway, but only when it enters Victoria. Hope SE6 is familiar with the area.
SE6 is (I believe) a RTL ... Probably backing up a Paramedic Bus or vollie crew.
Yep, he is a RTL.....and yep, backing up a vollie crew.
14:02:05 22-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:01,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PENOLA RD, 8KM FROM ROBE. NEAR WATER TANKS WITH FOOTY CLUB LOGO.,5799*CFSRES: CFS Robe Response
14:08:52 22-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:08,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8KM FROM ROBE ON PENOLA RD. BRAY DEFAULT FOR ROBE.,5799 5768*CFSRES: CFS Bray Response
14:17:18 22-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:17,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PENOLA RD, 8KM FROM ROBE. ** MT BENSON DEFAULT FOR ROBE AND BRAY **,5788*CFSRES: CFS Mount Benson Response
14:17:50 22-07-07 ROBE: STOP CALL RECEIVED 22-07-07 14:17 CFS Robe Response
14:25:33 22-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PENOLA RD ROBE. 8KM FROM ROBE. ** GREENWAYS DEFAULT FOR ROBE, BRAY & MT BENSON.,5778 5799*CFSRES: CFS Greenways Response
14:28:16 22-07-07 MFS: ROBE GROUP OFFICER PLS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE URGENTLY. 22/07/2007 2:28:05 PM CFS Robe Group Officers Info
:|
Sounds like someone NOT HAPPY
Kinda sounds like what happened to Kalangadoo last Sunday with that car accident when no one but me turned up so Nangwarry & Penola were defaulted :|
Would'nt want to be a house fire would it,3 brigade default :-o
1909144 12:16:17 25-07-07 HERM: ATTN ALERTS OPERS, YOU ARE TO FOLLOW SOP 10.12 WHEN TAKING ALERTS CALLS. IF ADEL FIRE SAYS "ALL VOLUNTEERS HANG UP" YOU ARE TO IGNORE AND MAINTAIN SOP 10.12 - SIGNED HERM CAPT. CC GUM GROUP OFFICERS 25-07-07 12:17:20
Intersting..... don't know what to make of that.
Thats why its so important that someone makes contact with Adelaide fire, otherwise that happens, default after default after default, nothing more they can do!!
17:19:24 26-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 47 - 26/07/07 17:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,188 MAGILL RD,NORWOOD, MAP 119 A 6 ,,CAR FIRE IN WORKSHOP,205 41 201 202 203*CFSRES: MFS Car 41
Apparently a "Heritage" listed Volvo belonging to a well known radio personality and Sunday Mail columnist.
MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 19 - 28/07/07 07:51,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,MT BARKER RD,EAGLE ON THE HIL, MAP 132 A 16 ,,NEAR THE OLD BULLOCK TRACK,2919 2924 9019 441*CFSRES:
Not so much interesting but bizzare. That many appliances to a single car fire?
2919 and 2924 are both Burnside for a start. Stirling are 9019, so that there is a CFS appliance coming from both above and below. That system has been in place for many years. 441 (MFS) also get responded as they are so close to the bottom of the freeway and get to jobs there pretty quickly.
So 4 appliances to a car fire, but only 2 to a house fire? Still bizzare if you ask me, so why dont MFS send 4 appliances to a car fire in MFS area?
It's the politics of the area - no one could decide who's area it was, so instead they respond 3 brigades (including 441) to any jobs there. A good waste of resources, and volunteers time. I believe the situation has been sorted for when SACAD is implemented though.
The freeway jobs go back to the old days of the Mt Barker Road. There were few places to do u-turns along the road. The decision was made therefore to send appliance(s) from above and below allowing for the fact that appliances might have to drive past the job and turn around and go back to it.
For example between the Crafers turn off and Eagle on the Hill there was nowhere to do a u-turn. MFS send appliances to a lot of jobs just into CFS areas. Thats just the way it is. Not ours to wonder why..
And know one can say who will do it with SACAD
Edithburgh 14:29:50 29-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 38 - 29/07/07 14:29,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,64 PARK TCE,GLADSTONE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,,44724*CFSRES: CFS Edithburgh Info
Gladstone, Coltowie14:30:57 29-07-07 MFS: *CFSRES:GLADSTONE AND CALTOWIE RESPOND (HOUSE FIRE,64 PARK TCE GLADSTONE) 29/07/2007 2:30:48 PM CFS Gladstone Response
Gladstone, Laura SES 14:32:19 29-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 39 - 29/07/07 14:31,RESPOND RCR,GLADSTONE CFS,GLADSTONE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RESPOND VEH ACC, PIRIE TO GLADSTONE RD, APPROX 2KM FROM GLADSTONE, NEAR UP$ TURNOFF, FROM PT PIRIT POLICE,75929 49224*CFSRES:
Edithburgh14:37:24 29-07-07 MFS: *** STOP CALL *** NOT REQUIRED FOR GLADSTONE INCIDENT - THANKS ADEL FIRE. 29/07/2007 2:36:40 PM CFS Edithburgh Response
Quite full on for two single appliance stations....probably acutally need Edithburgh for assistance...
Hmm, and then:
MFS: *CFSRES: R/O Ludborzs pls contact Adel Fire on 8204 37## re poss suspiscious house fire and MVA at Gladstone 29/07/2007 2:54:07 PM
Anyone listen to the scanner on this one, Gladstone advised SES were giving them BA backup, ummmmm, righto, since when do SES fight house fires.......
Quote from: Dezza on July 29, 2007, 02:15:56 PM
probably acutally need Edithburgh for assistance...
bit of a drive for them though (they are some way down Yorke Peninsula). It would appear to be another example of the wrong brigade being responded.
ahhh k.....Jamestown should have gotten to that job me thinks...being BA, RCR etc
Mistakes happen.
Quote from: pumprescue on July 29, 2007, 06:45:29 PM
Anyone listen to the scanner on this one, Gladstone advised SES were giving them BA backup, ummmmm, righto, since when do SES fight house fires.......
SES for BA support (im assuming you mean operational firefighting) at a house fire? - Your kidding right??
-Not ragging on SES at all, but that is like responding the CFS to a full USAR without the SES..
You better put your hand up to run it mate, if only they gave the job of running the fire service to forum members, the world would be a better place....
Like the page for South Coast SES to Assist MFS at a Hazmat job at Victor Harbour on Saturday :-o
Do you think that they may have said VA back up and not BA as the MVA at the same time was only 1 to 1 1/2 kms from the house fire and Laura SES are primary Rescue for that area and attended the VA not the fire. Only my views as to what may have been said but i didnt hear the call only from the ses area talkgroup.
That MVA turned out to be a fatal :-(
Quote from: SA Firey on July 30, 2007, 08:07:43 AM
Like the page for South Coast SES to Assist MFS at a Hazmat job at Victor Harbour on Saturday :-o
That job was an oil spill a few kilometres long, believe they got the ses in for they're good broom work :evil:
I am pretty sure that you will find SES were responded to the Victor job for traffic. They have the signs etc and are usually much quicker to the scene than council/DRT. SAPOL in country areas often respond SES to jobs like that to assist with manpower for traffic control. Of course we all know that SAPOL in country areas are under manned.
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:
WHY?
I can only "assume" it would be to help with road blocking or the likes...
(Hopefully well away from the scene)..
Or perhaps threats have been made to burn something down...so having CFS on stand by at an RV point might be a just in case of that happening.... :|
Pip
MFS: MANNUM APPLIANCE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE ON TG 209 31/07/2007 1:06:56 PM
Quote from: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 12:13:58 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:
Did anyone notice on the page MFS: INC # 32? Looks like they are doing a bit of changing around.
Could these be related
MP400 Cat3 Mannum-sedan Rd, Sanderston MULTIPLE HAZARDS
1of2:Afternoon, notification of self harm case @ Sanderston, Barossa crew and Mt Pleasant level 4 crew attending stand by point with SAPOL, patient has 2of2:weapons on scene. Thanks, Emma - comms
MFS: MANNUM APPLIANCE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE ON TG 209 31/07/2007 1:06:56 PM
Craig further to incident at Sanderston, the patient is DOA, but are treating scene as crime scene now. Regards Fadil
PS: Did notice the 'Daily' has dropped off.
1908895 14:41:06 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 31/07/07 14:41,RESPOND Tree Down,VICTOR HARBOR RD,VICTOR HARBOR, MAP 000 0 0 ,,P1 CNR CAHLOOGLEN/VICTOR RD ALAN ##########,18119*CFSRES:
PAGED TO MT COMPASS, SURLEY COUTH COAST SES OR EVEN MFS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED
Quote from: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 12:13:58 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:
WHY?
It's common for the fire service to attend siege situations for fire cover.
1924962 15:09:34 31-07-07 G81 Cat2 667 Main North Rd, Elizabeth North 52 A12 POLICE REQUIRED
1909187 15:32:15 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 31/07/07 15:32,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,667 MAIN NORTH RD,ELIZABETH NORTH, MAP 52 A 12 ,,,329 72920 9219*CFSRES:
Nice delay in rescue being dispatched
Quote from: safireservice2009 on July 31, 2007, 01:36:40 PM
Quote from: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 12:13:58 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:
Did anyone notice on the page MFS: INC # 32? Looks like they are doing a bit of changing around.
Got changed at midday :wink:
Maybe they are starting to wise up for the better
Quote from: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 02:24:38 PM
1908895 14:41:06 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 31/07/07 14:41,RESPOND Tree Down,VICTOR HARBOR RD,VICTOR HARBOR, MAP 000 0 0 ,,P1 CNR CAHLOOGLEN/VICTOR RD ALAN ##########,18119*CFSRES:
PAGED TO MT COMPASS, SURLEY COUTH COAST SES OR EVEN MFS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED
Was opposite the strawberry farm at Mt Compass the tree was blocking road on blind corner.
BTW you might wan't to remove peoples phone numbers. I'm not keen on my no. being splashed around :wink:
MATTY, instead of whining about the response on here, send a discrepancy(sp) form in about it.. - I (along with others) are getting sick of people CONTINUALLY sh!t-canning the Comcen.
Makes sense closest resource and in a life threatening position if soemone hits it and a bit far for Victor MFS. :wink:
1908898 17:52:26 31-07-07 BRIGADE CHAINSAW WILL BE REPORTED AT STOLEN TO SAPOL AFTER 0800HRS TOMORROW 1/8 - WE WILL NOT BE RESPONDING TO TREES DOWN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE - FROM CAPTAIN CFS Goolwa Info
Now that cuts deep :-o
Quote from: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 03:14:52 PM
1924962 15:09:34 31-07-07 G81 Cat2 667 Main North Rd, Elizabeth North 52 A12 POLICE REQUIRED
1909187 15:32:15 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 31/07/07 15:32,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,667 MAIN NORTH RD,ELIZABETH NORTH, MAP 52 A 12 ,,,329 72920 9219*CFSRES:
Nice delay in rescue being dispatched
The second page is BUILDING IMPACT for a shoring team to check the building before removing the car. Metropolitan SES units do not respond to road crash rescue taskings.
MFS are responded automatically, because they can check the situation quickly while volunteers respond with more specialised equipment. Especially for fire cover with leaking vehicle fluids.
Not all MFS trucks use paging, so the RCR might have already been processed via a different method.
Did anyone notice on the page MFS: INC # 32? Looks like they are doing a bit of changing around.
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Got changed at midday :wink:
Maybe they are starting to wise up for the better
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SAfirey,
Has this change also happend to the messages you get for calls at work?? as i saw this pager msg and it appears you guys at MFS still have the long line of Daily incidint number at the begining
MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 23 - 01/08/07 08:58,RESPOND ALARM 36/081,SUGAR AUSTRALIA PTY LTD (CSR),260 REGENCY RD ,REGENCY PARK, MAP 105 J 5 ,,FIP MAIN ENTRY OFFICE AREA,,361 371*CFSRES:
Standard template for Elizabeth :wink:
You based at Eliz. SAfirey?
Negative not based at Elizabeth but the new station does not receive the MDT signals inside which is why Elizabeth crews are sent GRN pager messages for details of the call.
Quote from: SA Firey on August 01, 2007, 11:44:11 AM
Standard template for Elizabeth :wink:
Seems to be Prospect carrying the pager which use to belong to 332?
Boms uses the same format for everything, so what you see on the pager is what MFS get on the MDT's, there is nothing special for Elizabeth.
Quote from: SA Firey on August 01, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
Negative not based at Elizabeth but the new station does not receive the MDT signals inside which is why Elizabeth crews are sent GRN pager messages for details of the call.
Thanks SAFirey,
That clears it up a bit, Good to hear from someone in the know
How would he know, he isn't in MFS
Quote from: pumprescue on August 01, 2007, 05:22:50 PM
How would he know, he isn't in MFS
Did I ever say I was :?
Get over yourself,or cant you find anything better to do than criticise people :evil:
1929264 16:44:33 01-08-07 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 98
Just wondering where is station 98. Is that for testing or is it going to be one of the new stations???
Quote from: Jimmy_91 on August 01, 2007, 07:13:17 PM
1929264 16:44:33 01-08-07 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 98
Just wondering where is station 98. Is that for testing or is it going to be one of the new stations???
It is used for training purposes Jimmy
Not exactly It is actually the MDT in Adelaide station, for those that don't know every station has an MDT. It is used alot for training though.
For all those that want a list of the station codes go here http://www.cfs.org.au/SACAD/brigade_short_name_codes.pdf
09:48:11 06-08-07 MFS: INC # 29 - 06/08/07 09:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,ECHUNGA RD,ECHUNGA, MAP 183 C 5 ,,INTWERSECTION OF DOLMAN,1218 1279*CFSRES: CFS Echunga Response
09:51:05 06-08-07 R1HQ: CFSRES: ECHUNGA & MT BARKER RESPOND 2 CAR MVA CNR DOLMAN RD & MAIN ST ECHUNGA 06/08/2007 9:50:33 AM
09:50:41 06-08-07 MFS: I.T. network being looked into by iIT I.T. DOWLING 06/08/2007 9:51:10 AM
Very interesting R1HQ has cut in there....wonder whats up at MFS HQ ?!?!
1908073 16:07:29 10-08-07 CREW REQUIRED RCR TRUCK VS CAR ADELAIDE RD MYPONGA MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW SHORTLY.
followed by:
1928012 16:16:09 10-08-07 MFS: INC # 45 - 10/08/07 16:15,RESPOND RCR,HINDMARSH VALLEY CFS,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CRN MYPONGA RD AND ADELAIDE RD HINDMARSH VALLEY,719 18624 73229*CFSRES:
1909068 16:16:03 10-08-07 MFS: INC # 45 - 10/08/07 16:15,RESPOND RCR,HINDMARSH VALLEY CFS,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CRN MYPONGA RD AND ADELAIDE RD HINDMARSH VALLEY,719 18624 73229*CFSRES:
1905665 16:15:50 10-08-07 MFS: INC # 45 - 10/08/07 16:15,RESPOND RCR,HINDMARSH VALLEY CFS,HINDMAR[H2VALLEY, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CRN MYPONGA RD AND ADELAIDE RD HINDMARSH VALLEY,719 18624 73229*CFSRES:
A bit of a delay there...?
Looks like a f/service member may have heard a heads up.. ??
The first page went to an SES pager group, not CFS....
Interesting to see that a number of SES pagers, in other areas, are seemingly not going through Adelaide Fire, but appear to be paged locally, by individuals..... :|
Pip
Yeah, sorry meant Fire Serv. or Rescue (SES).. Basically really meant its wasnt from SAAS. :-)
Probably got phoned through to their duty officer who rang link?? You'd think you'd just ring adelaide fire and get the whole lot going??
SAAS were paged at 1550 for that job. :|
Quote from: pipster on August 10, 2007, 06:00:00 PM
Interesting to see that a number of SES pagers, in other areas, are seemingly not going through Adelaide Fire, but appear to be paged locally, by individuals..... :|
most SES units appear to work differently to CFS in that what would be called the response page if it were CFS, only goes to the duty officer / unit manager, ie. one person. That person then pages the rest of the unit to respond. Eg. here's what I mean:
11:54:13 09-08-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 09/08/07 11:54,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,21 GULFVIEW RD,CHRISTIES BEACH, MAP 185 G 7 ,,CAR INTO HOUSE,439 72820 431*CFSRES: SES Noarlunga Response
11:59:48 09-08-07 PRIORITY 1 CALLOUT BLDG IMPACT REPORT TO UNIT REGARDS TREVOR SES Noarlunga Info
so the members of the unit only get the second page (5 mins later too) and respond based on that. Seems a funny way to do things to me but there ya go.
Its mainly the metro SES units that do this... And normally to a senior group (4-6 members)
Pretty much aimed at the jobs which may not require a response right that minute.
For example, it allows the duty officer or unit manager to recce a tree down, and perhaps postpone the task until outside working hours to make it more volunteer friendly. Instead of every member rushing to the unit...
A 5 minute difference in SES dispatch/arrival when local MFS/CFS are rolling isnt going to be a major problem..
1908980 12:50:34 11-08-07 M/V INFO: ANYONE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING US WITH MAKING OUR NEW SPARE APPLIANCE OPERATIONAL WE WILL BE AT THE STATION FROM 13:30 WORKING ON IT. LT 1 - MAWSON BASE
Whats the go here?
A breakdown replacement.
Quote from: Crank on August 11, 2007, 01:02:23 PM
1908980 12:50:34 11-08-07 M/V INFO: ANYONE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING US WITH MAKING OUR NEW SPARE APPLIANCE OPERATIONAL WE WILL BE AT THE STATION FROM 13:30 WORKING ON IT. LT 1 - MAWSON BASE
Whats the go here?
They have Moorak 34 as a spare at present :wink:
QuoteThey have Moorak 34 as a spare at present
And what a beast it is, as long as you have a step ladder to get into the cab and can handle the lack of power steering :)
ha, those country types are a bit tougher than you (us) city wusses obviously ;)
And perhaps a bit taller!! :-D
Quote from: Mundcfs on July 30, 2007, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: SA Firey on July 30, 2007, 08:07:43 AM
Like the page for South Coast SES to Assist MFS at a Hazmat job at Victor Harbour on Saturday :-o
That job was an oil spill a few kilometres long, believe they got the ses in for they're good broom work :evil:
That explains it Al :lol:
you should be tall enough to get in the cab Matt,that appliances served the brigade well so look after it(lololololol) it does not like going across hills so dont let anyone in little red cars drive it????? :lol:
15:50:26 14-08-07 LOFT: Message to Capts only: Region seeking X2 drivers to transport some 24 appliances over to KI on the 30th August and then get flown back. Meet at Region at 11am drive across and get flown back at around 7pm.Please let me know CFS Lofty Group Officers Info
Looks like a good plan by Region :-D
Maybe the plan is to leave a few spare appliances over there for breakdowns, strike teams etc. good thinking.
well since they are starting to fly strike teams in for a day and out that night this must be so there are some trucks for these crews.
That is wahat they are going over there for, i thinks it's nine trucks or something that will be over there for the fire season so all they have to do is fly or ship us over there.
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response
So now the MFS go over the boarder with no water available and through a CFS town
i believe MFS were stop called and Paringa attended with CFA... :wink:
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response
1919310 18:46:07 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE AERIAL CFSRES 14/08/2007 6:45:54 PM CFS Paringa Response
Also interesting that MFS did not page the additional information of being 40KMS out to Paringa Brigade whereas it was given to Renmark MFS :evil:
Plus they were responded almost 5 minutes later
Quote from: SA Firey on August 15, 2007, 10:11:52 AM
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response
1919310 18:46:07 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE AERIAL CFSRES 14/08/2007 6:45:54 PM CFS Paringa Response
Also interesting that MFS did not page the additional information of being 40KMS out to Paringa Brigade whereas it was given to Renmark MFS :evil:
Plus they were responded almost 5 minutes later
It is also interesting to note that there were no numbers for the brigade code at the end of the page. :? :?
judging by the date/time stamp and lack of brigade number i would suggest it has been sent via airsource.... a copy and paste jobbie..
Quote from: Jimmy_91 on August 15, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: SA Firey on August 15, 2007, 10:11:52 AM
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response
1919310 18:46:07 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE AERIAL CFSRES 14/08/2007 6:45:54 PM CFS Paringa Response
Also interesting that MFS did not page the additional information of being 40KMS out to Paringa Brigade whereas it was given to Renmark MFS :evil:
Plus they were responded almost 5 minutes later
It is also interesting to note that there were no numbers for the brigade code at the end of the page. :? :?
Also interesting that it took 3 messages to get the right message through
Quote from: backburn on August 15, 2007, 09:54:36 PM
Also interesting that it took 3 messages to get the right message through
Hope someone fills out a "CRD Registration of Issues Form"
(behind the CRD graphic on the CFS home page)
Unfortunately, Paringa probably have no idea that there was
an extra 5 minute delay paging them...
hi guys we had a intersting job the otherday we had VA neer freeling and the pager msg was
mfs daliy inc 27 respond RCR kapunda rd freeling rollover near cematry with entrapments. 75829,22124,26219
for you info thats kapunda rescue. freeling and hamley bridge rescue
the best part was its not even colse to hamley area infact nuriootpa should have come or gawler 359
and can anybody tell me why there are 2 RCR crews attending MVA'S on the first page now?
"can anybody tell me why there are 2 RCR crews attending MVA'S on the first page now?"
Guess its better having more than nothing hehe....26219 doesnt mean rescue only...its Fire/Rescue...
could just be incorrect data for that location in the system.
Hey guys, I have just come across this forum.
Just wondering what site everyone uses to view the GRN?
I upload a GRN pager monitor to this address:
http://www.sesrescue.com.au/pager/ (http://www.sesrescue.com.au/pager/)
I have worked out all the tags myself, so I can't guarentee 100% accuracy, but they are pretty damn close.
I hide the site from search engines, but don't mind letting other emergency service personelle know the address.
"1929262 15:41:24 16-08-07 MFS: Mr Morgan you are now #1 Safety Officer 16/08/2007 3:41:15 PM "
doh!! :-o
thanks but 26219 came as a rescue appliance and its not the first time we have had the following
respond RCR baggot well road kapunda 3kms from truro car v truck kapunda ses kapunda cfs and eudunda cfs
ambos were paged almost 30mins b4 kapunda cfs and us another 10mins behind kapunda cfs responding with eudunda cfs yet a week earlier we had a mva closer to eudunda and they didnt get paged when the above job would have been at least 20mins travel and not even close to truro
08:33:50 18-08-07 MFS: BOMBER STATUS (date) FOR INFO: BOMBERS 581/582/563/564 ON (AUTO DISPATCH/45 MINS) FROM (Location). 18/08/2007 8:33:41 AM MFS
looks like preparation for this coming fire season is goin well :)
08:38:46 22-08-07 MFS: NORTON SUMMIT CAPTAIN RADIO IS BLOCKING OPEN TG 124, PLS CHECK RADIO - CONFIRM WITM ADEL FIRE 22/08/2007 8:38:01 AM
whoopsies
Apart from ringing MFS HQ on the phone, is there any contingencie's to call Adelaide Fire on the radio if 124 is Blocked with probably an "unknown problem"???
Quote from: Dezza on August 22, 2007, 09:08:17 AM
08:38:46 22-08-07 MFS: NORTON SUMMIT CAPTAIN RADIO IS BLOCKING OPEN TG 124, PLS CHECK RADIO - CONFIRM WITM ADEL FIRE 22/08/2007 8:38:01 AM
whoopsies
Apart from ringing MFS HQ on the phone, is there any contingencie's to call Adelaide Fire on the radio if 124 is Blocked with probably an "unknown problem"???
You can use TG111 or at last resort TG150 :wink:
KIMBA AND LEHUNTE GROUP AGMS TO BE HELD AT WUDINNA MON 27TH AUG AT 8PM TO FORM NEW GROUP. ALL BRIGADES NEED TO ATTEND. CAP BUS LEAVING KIMBA STATION 6,30PM. NUMBERS TO PUMP PLEASE, 22/08/2007 4:46:31 PM CFS: KIMBA GROUP
Yeh i agree, its good that Seaford is doing a great job with turning out with plenty of crew :-)
Quote from: mack on August 22, 2007, 04:39:06 PM
KIMBA AND LEHUNTE GROUP AGMS TO BE HELD AT WUDINNA MON 27TH AUG AT 8PM TO FORM NEW GROUP. ALL BRIGADES NEED TO ATTEND. CAP BUS LEAVING KIMBA STATION 6,30PM. NUMBERS TO PUMP PLEASE, 22/08/2007 4:46:31 PM CFS: KIMBA GROUP
Seems a bit of this happening in Region 6....Ceduna Group changed its name, and is now Western Eyre group....
Pip
found this odd..
1909000 11:20:53 29-08-07 IS ANYONE AVAIL TO INVESTIGATE CAR LEAKING FUEL IN ALGATE CAR PARK PLS CALL GARY ASAP 04088****3
1908991 11:36:42 29-08-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 29/08/07 11:36,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,FENCHURCH RD,ALDGATE, MAP 157 L 2 ,,REAR CAR-PARK OF ALDGATE VILLAGE SHOPS, BRIGHT BLUE CAR LEAKING PETROL NEAR POSTOFFICE,8824*CFSRES:
1908998 11:44:04 29-08-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 29/08/07 11:43,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,FENCHURCH RD,ALDGATE, MAP 157 L 2 ,,FUEL SPILL, REAR OF VILLAGE SHOPS, DEFAULT FORALDGATE,9019*CFSRES:
1908083 13:56:52 30-08-07 MFS: INC # 36 - 30/08/07 13:56,RESPOND SHED FIRE,STRATHALBYN RD,MILANG, MAP 000 0 0 ,,1 KM FRONM MILANG,15424 73329*CFSRES: SES: Strathalbyn
Oops someone made a Boo Boo :|
08065 16:17:50 30-08-07 TASK 25 PRIORITY P2 CALLERS NAME GARSDEN JO- PH 8555**** NUMBER 19 KIGHTLEY RD GOOLWA 5214 - STORM DAMAGED WATER ENTERING VIA WALLS - DAMAGE NUMBER 17 - PLANKS AWAY FROM WALL EXPOSING DOWNSTAIRS WEATHER SES: Saddleworth Duty Crew
Loooong drive from saddleworth to here :lol:
Quote from: Mundcfs on August 30, 2007, 03:17:04 PM
1908083 13:56:52 30-08-07 MFS: INC # 36 - 30/08/07 13:56,RESPOND SHED FIRE,STRATHALBYN RD,MILANG, MAP 000 0 0 ,,1 KM FRONM MILANG,15424 73329*CFSRES: SES: Strathalbyn
Oops someone made a Boo Boo :|
A few minor mistakes I saw today on the paging website, but generally they were good & accurate.
I telephoned in a damaged veranda tasking this afternoon & the 132500 went to 'music on hold' before answering. So the operators have been busy.
SES SCC will be active by volunteers & paid staff from 1700 Thurs to 0700 Friday. this has been preplanned in case of major damage when the storm reaches Adelaide.
Update: SES SCC & RCC's closed at approximately 2000 on Thurs.
11:42:40 31-08-07 STRATH 24P NO OPERATIONAL AT STATION < sounds like an link operator from another country.
11:46:12 31-08-07 PLS PH IAN SPENCE 0885363639 STRATH T4P NOW NOW OPERATIONAL AT STATION < woopsies again
11:50:18 31-08-07 DUE TO INCORRECT LAST 2 MESSAGES FROM PAGING SERVICE MESSAGE SHOULD READ STRATH 24P NOW OPERATIONAL - SIMMO < if no success do it urself :)
Link paging service compared to do-it-yourself airsource? airsource anyday hehe
Should have just done it themselves to begin with..
1925582 22:39:39 01-09-07 PA181 DRIVE SLOW - WINGFIELD FOOTY CLUB - MAJOR BRAWL 40 PEOPLE - SAPOL ON WAY
:-o
Quote from: probationary one on September 02, 2007, 02:28:10 PM
1925582 22:39:39 01-09-07 PA181 DRIVE SLOW - WINGFIELD FOOTY CLUB - MAJOR BRAWL 40 PEOPLE - SAPOL ON WAY
:-o
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
40 person brawl... At the Wingfield Footy Club..?? - Thats not major!! Thats just the kids out the back !!
:D
1911244 14:13:27 03-09-07 CFS: ***** - HOWDY, CAN YOU PLEASE RING ME WHEN CONV RE; A COUPLE OF SHIFTS IN SCC FOR YOU.... COME RELAX, DISPATCH BOMBERS... WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? CHEERS **** ********> 03/09/2007 14:13:16
open invite??? :-D
Quote from: OMGWTF on September 03, 2007, 03:02:56 PM
1911244 14:13:27 03-09-07 CFS: ***** - HOWDY, CAN YOU PLEASE RING ME WHEN CONV RE; A COUPLE OF SHIFTS IN SCC FOR YOU.... COME RELAX, DISPATCH BOMBERS... WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? CHEERS **** ********> 03/09/2007 14:13:16
man, the human resources department have really lost the enthusiasm they once possessed for job writing.
Quote from: OMGWTF on September 03, 2007, 03:02:56 PM
1911244 14:13:27 03-09-07 CFS: ***** - HOWDY, CAN YOU PLEASE RING ME WHEN CONV RE; A COUPLE OF SHIFTS IN SCC FOR YOU.... COME RELAX, DISPATCH BOMBERS... WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? CHEERS **** ********> 03/09/2007 14:13:16
Interesting seeing as it wasnt on the paging site at that time :wink:
SAFirey - taken from the Tea Tree Gully SES paging site... has far less filtering than the sacfs.org one
Gotcha...
15:39:26 04-09-07 MU71 Cat2 Hartmann Rd, Monarto SAAS Murray Bridge
MFS: INC # 54 - 04/09/07 17:05,RESPOND Assist SAAS,HARTMANN RD,MONARTO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,WASHDOWN AFTER EQUINE EVENT, DEFAULT FOR MONARTO TRUCK U/S,36624*CFSRES: CFS Murray Bridge Response
MFS: PRIORITY 2..~~~ ASSIST WITH WASHDOWN OF CREW AND AMBULANCE FOR EQUINE FLU PRECAUTIONS. CFS Murray Bridge Response
interesting...
its standard if there is a possible infection like the equine flu then we have to wash down better to be safe the stuff it up for every one
09:35:20 07-09-07 MPS: INC # 19 - 07/09/0="89:35,RESPOND Marine Vessel,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VAlDEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
happy valley would got a shock since the only place a marine vessel would be is on the reservoir!
09:37:18 07-09-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 07/09/07 09:37,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VALLEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
:wink:
Quote from: Dezza on September 07, 2007, 09:31:53 AM
Quote09:35:20 07-09-07 MPS: INC # 19 - 07/09/0="89:35,RESPOND Marine Vessel,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VAlDEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
happy valley would got a shock since the only place a marine vessel would be is on the reservoir!
09:37:18 07-09-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 07/09/07 09:37,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VALLEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
And another one.......
MFS: INC # 47 - 13/09/07 15:24,RESPOND Marine Vessel,FAIRBANKS DR,PARALOWIE, MAP 70 E 2 ,,2 X CAR COLLISION,329 9119*CFSRES:
MFS: INC # 47 - 13/09/07 15:27,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,FAIRBANKS DR,PARALOWIE, MAP 70 E 2 ,,CNR KINGS RD 2 X CAR COLLISION,321 9119*CFSRES:
sounds like a comm's operator is being overworked ;)
"oops...Adelaide Fire...did it again"
Quote from: Firefrog on July 02, 2007, 06:32:05 PM
SES don't think like a fire service.......They run job boards which fill up and they will work all night finishing all the jobs and clearing the board.
Fire Services call in resources until each job has been resourced.....
its true and i have noticed that some units do this more then others. and thats the way it shouldnt be we are all volunteers so why cant we all work together. in some situations we have to so why not sing out for assistance when we need it! i am a member of the SEs and i know our unit is bad for this but there is nothing members can do that will make them seek assistance.
Quote from: Lizzy on September 13, 2007, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: Firefrog on July 02, 2007, 06:32:05 PM
SES don't think like a fire service.......They run job boards which fill up and they will work all night finishing all the jobs and clearing the board.
Fire Services call in resources until each job has been resourced.....
its true and i have noticed that some units do this more then others. and thats the way it shouldnt be we are all volunteers so why cant we all work together. in some situations we have to so why not sing out for assistance when we need it! i am a member of the SEs and i know our unit is bad for this but there is nothing members can do that will make them seek assistance.
Indications are that this is changing with major storm events going to a AIIMS style management. Thus the vehicles & crew will be combined into staging areas and allocated taskings. I understand that possible staging sites have been identified in the metro area. This would be a similar response structure to what happened in the Renmark storm event.
Unknown if CFS crews would be involved in the metro area because of risk of depleting of resources in the country areas.
But then, we are talking to taskings that limit structural damage not life threat. Yes SES can respond faster than tree doctors or builders, but sometimes do the tasks really need to be done within a few hours ?
the way i see it trees that block a road should be done asap...cause of the possibility it will cause other potential events.
1. ambulance going cat1-2 having to use up quite valuable time to traverse to an accessible route.
2. vehicles crashing into it...happens more in the hills where tight corners and crests exist...and inattentive drivers...
3. Fire service having to possibly take a much longer route to a incident.
and also a quick response, makes the person who called 000 or 132500 happy :-D
we all respond to incidents, but we also undertake incident prevention. :wink:
#end rant...good way to deviate from tafe work :-D
10:25:03 15-09-07 UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info
Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??
Quote from: Dezza on September 15, 2007, 10:07:07 AM
10:25:03 15-09-07 UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info
Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??
I thought Region 1 was on 124?
thats exactly whats got me puzzled...
Quote from: Dezza on September 15, 2007, 10:07:07 AM
10:25:03 15-09-07 UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info
Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??
just mingers
i rekon i saw another page correcting that sent out afterwards?
Quote from: mack on September 17, 2007, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: Dezza on September 15, 2007, 10:07:07 AM
10:25:03 15-09-07 UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info
Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??
just mingers
i rekon i saw another page correcting that sent out afterwards?
you saw right mack.
1919203 15:34:29 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON TO FOLLOW, PLEASE DO NOT RESOND CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919207 15:34:27 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON TO FOLLOW, PLEASE DO NOT RESOND CFS: Stirling North
1919203 15:36:29 20-09-07 STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 20/09/2007 15:35:31 CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919203 15:40:10 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON COMPLETED, PLEASE RESPOND TO FUTURE ALARMS AS PER NORMAL CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919207 15:40:08 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON COMPLETED, PLEASE RESPOND TO FUTURE ALARMS AS PER NORMAL CFS: Stirling North
1919203 15:43:38 20-09-07 STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 20/09/2007 15:42:38 CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919207 15:43:36 20-09-07 STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 20/09/2007 15:42:38 CFS: Stirling North
Doh..... :oops:
21:59:51 25-09-07 MBKR RESPOND TO FIRE ALARM ADELAIDE HILLS, HOMEMAKER LOT 221 DUTTON RD, MT BARKER *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 25/09/2007 21:58:54 CFS Mount Barker Response
22:16:47 25-09-07 MFS: INC # 89 - 25/09/07 22:16,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,DADDOW RD,MT BARKER, MAP 172 Q 5 ,,FLAMES SEEN FROM HARVEY NORMAN,1279 1268*CFSRES: CFS Mount Barker Response
Thats why a good response to fixed alarm is a must.
is daddow and dutton rds the same building?
sounds like the caller just rambled on with the street he/she lived on....ie doesnt know his/her own town lol
Quote from: Dezza on September 25, 2007, 10:00:27 PM
21:59:51 25-09-07 MBKR RESPOND TO FIRE ALARM ADELAIDE HILLS, HOMEMAKER LOT 221 DUTTON RD, MT BARKER *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 25/09/2007 21:58:54 CFS Mount Barker Response
22:16:47 25-09-07 MFS: INC # 89 - 25/09/07 22:16,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,DADDOW RD,MT BARKER, MAP 172 Q 5 ,,FLAMES SEEN FROM HARVEY NORMAN,1279 1268*CFSRES: CFS Mount Barker Response
Thats why a good response to fixed alarm is a must.
Who says there wasn't a good response to the fixed alarm?
I was listening to the scanner at the time and from the sounds of it they had two appliances on scene at the rear of the premises. They may not have been in view of the caller who reported the flame, but it sounded like they were still on scene dealing with the situation.
Really shits me when people give other brigades a bad name by not getting their facts straight and casting aspersions on their response!
And no, I'm not from the brigade, I just know how pissed I'd be if the same thing was said about my brigade.
i wasnt refering to mt barker at all filtered. just the service as a whole.
its just a good example of when a fixed alarm is more than ya think.
MFS: INC # 4 - 26/09/07 01:15,RESPOND Tree Down,PEAKE CFS,PEAKE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TREE OVER ROAD 1 KM EAST PEAKE - FROM SAPOL - NO OTHER INFO FROM THEM,72729*CFSRES: SES Murray Bridge
MFS: STOP FOR CALL/ CLOSER SERVICE IS BEING DESPATCHED, THANK YOU SES Murray Bridge
MFS: INC # 4 - 26/09/07 01:21,RESPOND Tree Down,PEAKE CFS,PEAKE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TREE OVER RD 1KM EAST PEAKE - FROM SAPOL - NO FURTHER INFO AVAIL - P1,37524*CFSRES: CFS Peake Response
MFS: STOP FROM POLICE TREE REMOVED CFS Peake Response
MFS: INC # 41 - 02/10/07 13:03,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,VINE VALE RD,TANUNDA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CORNER OF LIGHT PASS CLEAN UP ONLY FROM AMB,24324 631*CFSRES: CFS: ANGASTON GROUP
MFS: INC # 41 - 02/10/07 13:05,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,VINE VALE RD,TANUNDA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UPDATE FROM AMB 2 X PERSONS TRAPPED,24119*CFSRES: CFS: Nuriootpa
oops, :-(
wasnt much of a delay, 3 car accident, one person was still retrived by Rescue 51 from a school oval in Tanunda...only a few other patients with lesser injuries.
Quote from: Zippy on October 02, 2007, 02:43:35 PM
wasnt much of a delay, 3 car accident, one person was still retrived by Rescue 51 from a school oval in Tanunda...only a few other patients with lesser injuries.
no delay at all..
first rescue and fire were still sent initially..
goes to show though, that ya cant trust initial information no matter the source... apparently 1 person extricated ?
1909029 13:25:40 02-10-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 02/10/07 13:23,RESPOND To,6 STIRLING CT,STRATHALBYN, MAP 251 P 2 ,,PATIENT FROM HOSPITAL IN 80S SMOULDERING NEAR BACK DOOR,1558*CFSRES:
anybody know whats going on here?
Quote from: bittenyakka on September 25, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
is daddow and dutton rds the same building?
Yeah, the new homemaker centre I believe... Its where the beds and the electronics are kept i hear...
Quote from: probationary one on October 02, 2007, 07:12:16 PM
1909029 13:25:40 02-10-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 02/10/07 13:23,RESPOND To,6 STIRLING CT,STRATHALBYN, MAP 251 P 2 ,,PATIENT FROM HOSPITAL IN 80S SMOULDERING NEAR BACK DOOR,1558*CFSRES:
anybody know whats going on here?
I think it was just very badly worded. Perhaps a person in their 80's just out of hospital called because something was smouldering near their back door?
Mind you, I did a double take when I first read it...
16:29:28 03-10-07 MFS: INC # 56 - 03/10/07 16:27,RESPOND To,BARMERA CFS,BARMERA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,JETTY AT LAKE BONNY,39124*CFSRES
That gives you a lot of information. Wonder what it was? Wonder if they can pump out of the lake if theres a fire? now that its closed off to the River
I was there late last year, and they could pump for months if they had too.
Good rumors made it sound as if it was in big trouble and that they might get blue green algy now with no current.
Quote from: backburn on October 03, 2007, 09:46:24 PM
16:29:28 03-10-07 MFS: INC # 56 - 03/10/07 16:27,RESPOND To,BARMERA CFS,BARMERA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,JETTY AT LAKE BONNY,39124*CFSRES
That gives you a lot of information. Wonder what it was? Wonder if they can pump out of the lake if theres a fire? now that its closed off to the River
The actual jetty was on fire. I thought it was a strange page, not much info so i did some investigating :wink:
Quote from: backburn on October 04, 2007, 08:47:04 AM
Good rumors made it sound as if it was in big trouble and that they might get blue green algy now with no current.
Those problems may exist if the water stays stagnent, however if needed im sure it could be used for fire fighting purposes. The water levels were good then though.
09:52:14 06-10-07 MFS: INC # 29 - 06/10/07 09:50,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,WAIKERIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,3 PERSONS ,UNCONCIOUS AND TRAPPED,13 KM TOWARDS BARMERA,35519*CFSRES: CFS Waikerie Response
11:20:27 06-10-07 MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MVA STURT HWY WAIKERIE - 3 FATALITIES - CFS & SAPOL IN ATTENDANCE - FROM DSC MILLER 06/10/2007 11:18:17 AM CFS HQ Info
Not sure if it is interesting but certainly tragic. The news report was fairly detailed on the alleged cause. One interesting fact was Barmera SES was responded as well -
1928012 10:58:32 06-10-07 VEHICLE ACCIDENT MEET CHRIS AT HEADQUARTERS AT 12.15PM FROM STUART
1918239 10:58:30 06-10-07 VEHICLE ACCIDENT MEET CHRIS AT HEADQUARTERS AT 12.15PM FROM STUART
1918239 11:20:00 06-10-07 CHANGE OF TIME FOR RCR CHRIS WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY IN HEAD QUATERS NOW FROM STAURT
this was after a phone call from SAPOL Riverland direct to the Unit Manager (Stuart)
The reason this was interesting is that this is a fairly common in this area, Barmera is one of the best SES RCR units in the State (those who know Stuart knows how pationate he is about RCR).
Barmera were called to provide traffic control, Berri were put on notice in case relief were required. Another interesting fact is this -
1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers
Multiple persons trapped in multiple cars, there should have been two rescue trucks going.
Quote1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers
thats a standard press button message to say need more crew to get the truck going, often pressed around the 4min mark after reciept of callout in the aim of getting the Crew on the Road within 6 minutes. pretty much a silent Fire siren. For this sort of callout, forget a simple pager message, getting the fire siren going can ensure those in Blackspots get the message theres a going job right now.
Thanks for clearing that up Zippy cheers
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
04:56:32 07-10-07 MFS: INC # 15 - 07/10/07 04:57,RESPOND Private Alarm,PYRITES RD,BRUKUNGA, MAP 150 L 15 ,,BRAKUNGA STATE TRAINING CENTRE - 2 ALARMS - CBR A - WEST AND CBR B - EAST,1288 1298*CFSRES:
eek
and something that is strange presently is that:
04:36:27 07-10-07 MFS: INC # 14 - 07/10/07 04:37,RESPOND Private Alarm,NAIRNE RD,WOODSIDE, MAP 137 C 7 ,,WOODSIDE ARMY BARRACKS,1378 1358*CFSRES: CFS Woodside Response
we were responded 20mins after the alarm initally dropped :| and it seems the Alarms connected directly to stations arent sending out WDSD: FIXED ALARM RESPOND STATION....so something has changed :|
they are private alarms so it is a security company eg chubb who rings MFS
Naracoorte had the same problem some 2 weeks ago FIP at station went into alarm pagers did not go off...It was luck that a course was on at the time.Techs came and could not find a fault in the system.....Wish they would get a move on with the change over......
have to wonder if this is a Telstra problem :| lol...sorry i love blaming telstra :-D
bittenyakka, they are showing private alarms to Woodside Army camp because of what zippy posted, its not monitored by a security company, its the army camp ringing the ALERTS number to find out why no one has attended the alarm, and ADELAIDE FIRE paging out for a response :-D
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2007, 10:11:21 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..
Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.
Quote from: mack on October 08, 2007, 08:13:51 AM
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2007, 10:11:21 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..
Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.
I agree with RescueHazmat, 3 reported trapped, easy 1st and 2nd rescue on initial call.
It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.
QuoteIt's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.
its SOP, quite often not followed :|.....2 appliances responding to AFA's, quite often cant be from the same station due to the chance of not enough crew responding. theres always gonna be "the day" its more than a AFA, so having 2 appliances initally can knock it down before the fire takes hold....hopefully.
Quote from: Mundcfs on October 08, 2007, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: mack on October 08, 2007, 08:13:51 AM
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2007, 10:11:21 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..
Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.
I agree with RescueHazmat, 3 reported trapped, easy 1st and 2nd rescue on initial call.
It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.
i still feel differantly, if you have multiple vehicles with entrapments in seperate vehicles then sure go 2nd alarm of greater if necessary... but it is up to the first arriving officer to upgrade alarm, not the operator doing intial dispatch. Opens up new issues when we already have too many with responses.
from my experience and knowledge (no not from an RCR brigade) you shouldnt really be getting to work with more than one set of tools on a single vehicle...
Thats fair enough mack, but as an officer if saw a page like that for our brigade the first thing i would do is respond second rescue.
Quote from: mack on October 08, 2007, 08:13:51 AM
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2007, 10:11:21 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..
Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.
2 Vehicles, 3 reported trapped and unconcious.. Even if the 'only' information was "3 trapped" I would send a second rescue on the ouset as the possibilities are alot higher that a second vehicle involved. (Particularly in areas where rescue resources are some distance..)
I believe in the paper the Ch.Inspector who witnessed the accidents made reference to thinking there were 4 trapped.
I wouldn't take the risk and "hope" they weren't in the second vehicle.. Its much easier to put a stop back than respond them 15 minutes later because you have multiple entrapments in multiple vehicles..
Mate you hit the nail on the head. 2nd rescue is about 40 kms away from the town concerned(and as I said were responded by SAPOL later for traffic).
The closest rescue to me about 18kms away, but that would depend in which direction the MVA is. Obviously if it was towards Loxton, they would get the nod. I know in Victoria there is a lot of discussion regarding too many resources crowding the scene. However around here we don't seem to have that problem often & when we do a discussion is held with all of the services involved and if there is nothing to do some go back home-simple.
This works with local SAMFS, CFS & my SES counterparts. Also some of the units here have some specialised gear (lighting towers, traffic lights etc) which we call on for bad MVA's/ Fatals, which means I can rest my people while nothing is going on, again less people at the scene.
Anyway I wasn't being critical of the brigade involved (have worked with them before & not a bad bunch of guys who know what they are doing), just surprised second rescue wasn't responded automatically.
cheers chook
Quote from: mack on October 08, 2007, 09:06:49 AM
Quote from: Mundcfs on October 08, 2007, 08:55:41 AM
Quote from: mack on October 08, 2007, 08:13:51 AM
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2007, 10:11:21 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..
Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.
I agree with RescueHazmat, 3 reported trapped, easy 1st and 2nd rescue on initial call.
It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.
i still feel differantly, if you have multiple vehicles with entrapments in seperate vehicles then sure go 2nd alarm of greater if necessary... but it is up to the first arriving officer to upgrade alarm, not the operator doing intial dispatch. Opens up new issues when we already have too many with responses.
from my experience and knowledge (no not from an RCR brigade) you shouldnt really be getting to work with more than one set of tools on a single vehicle...
Yes you can use more than one set of tools on a single vehicle. You just need to keep the communication up and work together even more than normally.
Johno,
Yes, it was tragic and perhaps your "BLIEVE" comment might apply to the young lad who was right behind one of the cars involved.
He certainly believed what he saw and it affected him as well.
By the time he got to his home in Waikerie, he needed medical attention for shock.
So how bout you spare a thought for other people in future?
The lad I speak about is related to me.
Countrygirl.. What are you talking about?
For starters.. The "BLEVE" tag in Jono's signature stands for "BOILING LIQUID EXPANDING VAPOR EXPLOSION" (BLEVE).. Not Believe, or 'Blieve'..
Secondly, I don't think he meant any dis-respect by the post, if anything, bringing light to the tradgedy!.. I know when I saw the post it was the first I knew of the incident and straight away phoned a family member who I knew was riding a motorcycle in that general area that morning to make sure it wasnt them !!
So how bout you spare a thought for other people before openly attacking them on here !.. Especially when you don't know the intention of their posting, nor the related content in it! .. Because I "believe" Jono meant nothing negative or dis-respectful by it!
Quote from: Zippy on October 06, 2007, 08:27:32 PM
Quote1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers
thats a standard press button message to say need more crew to get the truck going, often pressed around the 4min mark after reciept of callout in the aim of getting the Crew on the Road within 6 minutes. pretty much a silent Fire siren. For this sort of callout, forget a simple pager message, getting the fire siren going can ensure those in Blackspots get the message theres a going job right now.
Often pressed 4 minutes after reciept of call... Notice this page came out 5 seconds later...?
hehe mate, 4mins hit the button, hopefully at 5mins everyone's got it :P....or i could hammer it into there head with the siren right away!
Quote from: RescueHazmat on October 08, 2007, 09:34:01 PM
Countrygirl.. What are you talking about?
For starters.. The "BLEVE" tag in Jono's signature stands for "BOILING LIQUID EXPANDING VAPOR EXPLOSION" (BLEVE).. Not Believe, or 'Blieve'..
Secondly, I don't think he meant any dis-respect by the post, if anything, bringing light to the tradgedy!.. I know when I saw the post it was the first I knew of the incident and straight away phoned a family member who I knew was riding a motorcycle in that general area that morning to make sure it wasnt them !!
So how bout you spare a thought for other people before openly attacking them on here !.. Especially when you don't know the intention of their posting, nor the related content in it! .. Because I "believe" Jono meant nothing negative or dis-respectful by it!
Thanks bro, :-D Saved me from saying it :-P
1909070 20:46:28 08-10-07 MFS: INC # 75 - 08/10/07 20:48,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,HINDMARSH ESP,HAYBOROUGH, MAP 310 P 5 ,,SMALL FIRE ON BEACH AT CHITON ROCKS NEAR WALKWAY,719 18924*CFSRES: CFS Waitpinga Response
Interesting, Waitping being called to the port elliot side of victor, apart from MFS there are easily 3 brigades closer than them, especially port elliot who is only about 3kms away. :|
Quote from: CFS_Firey on October 08, 2007, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: Zippy on October 06, 2007, 08:27:32 PM
Quote1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers
thats a standard press button message to say need more crew to get the truck going, often pressed around the 4min mark after reciept of callout in the aim of getting the Crew on the Road within 6 minutes. pretty much a silent Fire siren. For this sort of callout, forget a simple pager message, getting the fire siren going can ensure those in Blackspots get the message theres a going job right now.
Often pressed 4 minutes after reciept of call... Notice this page came out 5 seconds later...?
im guessing someone knew about the job and hit the button in the station to get a crew, in the meantime while the page dialed out adelaide fire must have put out the response...
According to a differant website it was 4mins gap between initial and more crew page
the pages were:
09:52:14 06-10-07 MFS: INC # 29 - 06/10/07 09:50,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,WAIKERIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,3 PERSONS ,UNCONCIOUS AND TRAPPED,13 KM TOWARDS BARMERA,35519*CFSRES: CFS Waikerie Response
09:56:16 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53 CFS Waikerie Response
So there was a 4 minute delay in the "more crew" page however the time put in the pager message by the alpha decoder box says 09:53. You would expect this box to get it's time off the paging network so to me that indicates the button was pushed pretty promptly after initial page but then took 3 minutes to dial out and send. So might be worth a Waikerie person looking into that.
actually..i find after pressing any button on the alpha decoder its usually a minute before it comes out....i normally wait till 4mins have passed (yeh i generally find myself at the station after 60 seconds lol)...pressing the button too early doesnt make the already driving responders go any faster hehe.
MFS: From ACO X XXXXXXX, please be advised that due to staffing constraints, the ERV Gallantry will be off duty
untill 1800hrs 09/10/2007. Other services being advised. Pls acknowledge receipt of this page to Comcen
Gee wont the UFU be pleased about that. :-)
isnt that boat just on standby being used rarely???
MFS: INC # 60 - 09/10/07 18:28,RESPOND To,MONTGOMERY CT,STRATHALBYN, MAP 251 J 6 ,,TRANSFORMER EXPLODED, POWER LINES DOWN - ETSA NOTIFIED,1558*CFSRES: CFS Strathalbyn Response
MFS: INC # 61 - 09/10/07 18:28,RESPOND Tree Fire,290 LOBBAN RD,MONASH, MAP 000 0 0 ,,FIRE AT REAR OF THIS PROPERTY,39424*CFSRES: CFS Monash Response
MFS: INC # 62 - 09/10/07 18:32,RESPOND To,SANDSTONE AV,NARACOORTE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UNKNOWN TYPE FIRE, CALLERS # 0887620592,5629*CFSRES: CFS Naracoorte Response
MFS: INC # 63 - 09/10/07 18:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BORDERTOWN RD, 23-30KM FROM PINNAROO,WEST SIDE, GRID REF 780 724,34519*CFSRES: CFS Pinnaroo Response
MFS: INC # 64 - 09/10/07 18:37,RESPOND To,MENINGIE ,MENINGIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,FIRE NEAR SILOS WEST END OF TOWN,32124*CFSRES: CFS Meningie Response
MFS: INC # 65 - 09/10/07 18:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HAHNDORF CFS,HAHNDORF, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SMALL GRASS FIRE ON HAHNFDORF TO ECHUNGA ROAD, 3KM FROM HAHNDORF ON LEFT HAND SIDE,1228*CFSRES: CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
Busy 10mins at Adelaide Fire...at the same time...4 Lots of dispatchs to Private Alarms around Adelaide...Geez...
Radio operations woulda been busy since all of those incidents are spread over 3 Regional talkgroups lol
Thats what they're paid for.
yep!
but the real test is....will the system hold up to the riggers of the service in the summer... 8-)
more of a strange response...
MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:27,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR INTERSECTION OF TURNERS RD. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.,4719 8424
9019*CFSRES:
then
MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:30,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR TURNERS AVE. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER. ASSIST BLACKWOOD,4924*CFSRES:
should of been 4719 & 4924 to begin with...
have to wonder if some data has been rejiggled lately without consultation with all groups/parties when ya see differant/strange responses going down...
1909332 10:29:05 10-10-07 MFS: INC # 34 - 10/10/07 10:30,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,INGLEWOOD (SE) ,INGLEWOOD (SE), MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAR ROLL OVER, NO ENTRAP, ADEL - MANNUM,ROAD, 2KM PAST INGLEWOOD TOWARDS,CHAIN OF PONDS,5968*CFSRES: CFS Bordertown Response
Quote from: wilma on October 10, 2007, 11:11:10 AM
1909332 10:29:05 10-10-07 MFS: INC # 34 - 10/10/07 10:30,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,INGLEWOOD (SE) ,INGLEWOOD (SE), MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAR ROLL OVER, NO ENTRAP, ADEL - MANNUM,ROAD, 2KM PAST INGLEWOOD TOWARDS,CHAIN OF PONDS,5968*CFSRES: CFS Bordertown Response
Thats a long drive for Bordertown. Mack, you may be right with someone fiddling in town. We have found one week we get responded somewhere (in our area) and the next week we dont. Bizzare happenings up in town unless its operators just having some "manual input" into responses?
QuoteINGLEWOOD (SE) ,INGLEWOOD (SE)
would have been the trigger which put bordertown onto that job...just some input error...since theres probably a Inglewood in the SE too.
Just like theres Oakbank in the Hills and a Oakbank in Region 3 or 4 (pretty much middle of nowhere tho hehe)
Have had the same problem as well one minute were responded somewhere for something and then a week later a different brigade goes for the same place :|
Quite interesting to see what is happening, I am wondering if some data for the SACAD is being placed into Boms etc which is causing some of these problems. I am aware that this was the plan with the BOMS brigades. Not sure if this has occurred yet. This could be why we might have some of these unusual responses.
well they have not collected any data yet for SACAD so they better start pulling there finger and get to work.....
Yes they have, back in Febuary or March they did :)....i believe it was probably region 1 and 2 they were doing at the time.
It involved a large print map, and precise boundary drawing of primary and dual response area's. and probably more but i cant remember :roll:.
At that time we had discussions with neighbouring brigades/groups on exactly where the line meets to avoid future politics. :wink:.
1905686 08:18:00 11-10-07 MESSAGE ONLY 701 IS NOW OFF LINE RETURNING TO ADELAIDE REPLACEMENT ARRIVING, THIS AFTER NOON MFS Mt Gambier Response
Heres an interesting pager message any idea why 701 is returning to Adelaide :| :?
I can see how this would have happenned as 'Mannum rd Inglewood' is not in Boms.
You are correct Zippy, if 'Adelaide to Mannum rd' is entered Hermitage is reconmended although looking at the map Paracombe may have been better. Rescue would have been selected from the map and probably would have been Tea Tree Gully. Would this have been correct?
As for the concept of fiddling responses, that is ridiculous. We do our best with information the caller provides and the resources available to provide the right response for any incident. Bring on SACAD!
I hope this helps.
Quote from: mack on October 10, 2007, 11:09:53 AM
more of a strange response...
MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:27,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR INTERSECTION OF TURNERS RD. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.,4719 8424
9019*CFSRES:
then
MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:30,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR TURNERS AVE. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER. ASSIST BLACKWOOD,4924*CFSRES:
should of been 4719 & 4924 to begin with...
have to wonder if some data has been rejiggled lately without consultation with all groups/parties when ya see differant/strange responses going down...
Negative to both of those. That response was correct and as per agreements. Responses aren't specified per street, the response is specified by a zone and the zone is then assigned to a street.
Olave Hill Road Hawthorndene is in the same response zone as Upper Sturt Road Upper Sturt. Since Upper Sturt Road is so long the response for a RCR has been defined as being rescue from Blackwood and Stirling with fire cover from Upper Sturt. So what happened was exactly what it is set in the computer system and agreed to. If it was Turners Ave cnr Olave Hill Road then that would be the 4719 & 4924 response.
So its not strange at all when you actually know what has happened and has been agreed to. SACAD wont change or reduce these "strange" responses. Infact all this discussion goes to prove my point that humans/locals can take more factors into account and can make better decisions than a generic computer response spat out from a data base. This is why any future system needs the flexability for a response/ upgrade to be defined by a human/local at response time.
You all want it both ways. First off you complain when its not as per the database, then you complain when it is done as per the database.
You should just chill a bit over this fanatical response precision. You cant have operators that know every bend and landmark and it cant all be incorporated into a database be it BOMS or SACAD.
I realise all of that HF14, but there is no denying it is a strange response no matter the zone... im not havintg a dig, i actually realise how the systems work, just didnt realise it was the same zone, seems odd.
sorry mate ;)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/station49/map.jpg)
yellow tag is incident location per page
wow that pics come up crap hey :roll:
Quote from: Comms on October 11, 2007, 08:24:44 AM
I can see how this would have happenned as 'Mannum rd Inglewood' is not in Boms.
You are correct Zippy, if 'Adelaide to Mannum rd' is entered Hermitage is reconmended although looking at the map Paracombe may have been better. Rescue would have been selected from the map and probably would have been Tea Tree Gully. Would this have been correct?
As for the concept of fiddling responses, that is ridiculous. We do our best with information the caller provides and the resources available to provide the right response for any incident. Bring on SACAD!
I hope this helps.
hehe..just hope the caller states the approximate suburb of the incident otherwise ull be responding pretty much every brigade along that road :wink:.
Quote from: mack on October 11, 2007, 10:38:27 AM
I realise all of that HF14, but there is no denying it is a strange response no matter the zone... im not havintg a dig, i actually realise how the systems work, just didnt realise it was the same zone, seems odd.
sorry mate ;)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/station49/map.jpg)
yellow tag is incident location per page
easy fix mate....google maps ;)
Quote from: Robert34 on October 11, 2007, 08:00:31 AM
1905686 08:18:00 11-10-07 MESSAGE ONLY 701 IS NOW OFF LINE RETURNING TO ADELAIDE REPLACEMENT ARRIVING, THIS AFTER NOON MFS Mt Gambier Response
Heres an interesting pager message any idea why 701 is returning to Adelaide :| :?
For some alterations. New Air Conditioner for the back part of the cab and some new seals for the pump.
Oh so that's the truck i seen driving past on my way to Mount Gambier this morning :-)
Must not have a big fuel tank stoped in Naracoorte and filled up then off he want,would have been a nice day for a drive to the city......
More than likely the 701 driver filled up before he left Mount Gambier and only topped up in Naracoorte :-)
16:47:05 12-10-07 PLS PH JOSEPHINE SPECK - CITY OF PROSPECT 83428113 OR 0400676426 RE FASHION FOOD AND WINE FAIR NEED 6 FIREMEN TO ASSIST THE MODELS - HAVE SPOKEN WITH MARK SIDERSTROM RE THIS MFS
Pick me, Pick me..... :-D
Quote from: Hicksflat14 on October 11, 2007, 09:48:18 AM
Quote from: mack on October 10, 2007, 11:09:53 AM
more of a strange response...
MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:27,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR INTERSECTION OF TURNERS RD. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.,4719 8424
9019*CFSRES:
then
MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:30,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR TURNERS AVE. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER. ASSIST BLACKWOOD,4924*CFSRES:
should of been 4719 & 4924 to begin with...
have to wonder if some data has been rejiggled lately without consultation with all groups/parties when ya see differant/strange responses going down...
Negative to both of those. That response was correct and as per agreements. Responses aren't specified per street, the response is specified by a zone and the zone is then assigned to a street.
Olave Hill Road Hawthorndene is in the same response zone as Upper Sturt Road Upper Sturt. Since Upper Sturt Road is so long the response for a RCR has been defined as being rescue from Blackwood and Stirling with fire cover from Upper Sturt. So what happened was exactly what it is set in the computer system and agreed to. If it was Turners Ave cnr Olave Hill Road then that would be the 4719 & 4924 response.
So its not strange at all when you actually know what has happened and has been agreed to. SACAD wont change or reduce these "strange" responses. Infact all this discussion goes to prove my point that humans/locals can take more factors into account and can make better decisions than a generic computer response spat out from a data base. This is why any future system needs the flexability for a response/ upgrade to be defined by a human/local at response time.
You all want it both ways. First off you complain when its not as per the database, then you complain when it is done as per the database.
You should just chill a bit over this fanatical response precision. You cant have operators that know every bend and landmark and it cant all be incorporated into a database be it BOMS or SACAD.
HF 14
The Rescue Dual Response was an initiave by Upper Sturt CFS and Sturt Group and was agreed by The Lofty Group.
Unfortunately at this stage the dual Rescue response has not been occuring at all times. But the dual response has been occuring as Upper Sturt and Sturt Group have been responding the appropriate responses on acknowledgement of the page.
At this stage the co-operation and commitment by brigades and groups involved in this response area have been making it work well for the community they serve.
I believe by all parties the responses are working well, adequate and correct resources are being responded in the overall situation. Their is a good working relationship between Upper Sturt, Sturt Group and Lofty Group and in this response zone and I believe this relationship will continue and get stronger in future.
1908870 15:26:50 15-10-07 MFS: INC # 51 - 15/10/07 15:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MOORES RD,NORTON SUMMIT, MAP 121 Q 1 ,,ASSIST DEH, BURNOFF SPOTTING, ENTER VIA MORIALTA PARK,10824 9419*CFSRES: CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response
Maybe yesterday wasn't such a good day to do a HR Burn :|
it sounds like it's going a bit to quick on the scanner :oops:
Going.. Going... GONE!
definately! not the best week to have done a HR burn. that spot fire was enough to get our hair raised and set up for burnover...then it just died lol.
Just show's you all how dry the bush is and its not summer yet....
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MFS: Call Sign ELZ331 changed to 331. MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
Any one know what this is about?
15:35:09 16-10-07 MFS: INC # 40 - 16/10/07 15:35,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PARNDANA ,PARNDANA KI, MAP 087 F 3 ,,FIRE AT MT BROWN,PARN19*CFSRES: CFS Parndana Response
**PARN19**
1908906 17:44:43 16-10-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 16/10/07 17:44,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,RAZOR BACK RD,MEADOWS, MAP 000 0 0 ,,2-3KM FROM CUTHILL RD,MDWS19 MBKR19 ECHG00*CFSRES: CFS Echunga Response
this must be the new codes. from this message im gathering codes ending in 19 are rescue still and 00 are standard fire response.
1925389 20:41:26 16-10-07 MFS: INC # 61 - 16/10/07 20:41,RESPOND Smoke in Area,WANDEARAH RD,PORT PIRIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BEHIND THE SCHOOL,501*CFSRES: MFS Pt Pirie
But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno :|
QuoteBut i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno
you can't teach and old dog new tricks :evil:
Quote from: Morgan on October 16, 2007, 08:52:27 PM
QuoteBut i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno
you can't teach and old dog new tricks :evil:
Does that make the CFS a young dog? :P
MFS codes have also changed, just not retained yet. Some examples follow.
INC # 68 - 16/10/07 23:48
RESPOND Vehicle Accident
GRANGE RD MAP 116 F 3
SEATON
INT OF TAPLEYS HILL RD.
WDV249
DAILY INC. NO. 65 - 16/10/07 22:07
RESPOND ALARM 11/134
MYER CENTRE
NORTH TCE MAP 4 A 4
ADELAIDE
FIP S FIRE CONTROL ROOM PANELS 1--7
ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203
What has brought on the change.
i can think of a few people who requested this change...but i think there were a whole lot more!
tis good to see its done , nice work mfs comcen :)
SES changing????
The short names on the pager messages were what we were promised from the start of the new CRD system.....but when the new CRD system commenced, it was found there were software issues, and short names couldn't be used without changes being made to the software.
At least two Regions were insisting on the short names (I am guessing the others did too - but I haven't heard anything from them about it)
It is good to see the change has now occurred.
Pip
Quote from: Morgan on October 16, 2007, 08:52:27 PM
QuoteBut i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno
you can't teach and old dog new tricks :evil:
But you're never too old to learn :-P
Quote from: probationary one on October 16, 2007, 08:30:26 PM
But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno :|
perhaps MFS are smart enough to remember a few numbers... and dont need to change a perfectly good system..
has everyone got the info re: that.. i believe it is on the CFS website...
good news is with the new system we should at least be able to tell when rescue, hazmat and tankers have been responded still...
Quote from: probationary one on October 16, 2007, 08:30:26 PM
this must be the new codes. from this message im gathering codes ending in 19 are rescue still and 00 are standard fire response.
it was explained in a fax to all brigades in the group back on 20th August ("brigade short names"). For the 2 digit suffix 00 is the default/generic one replacing 24. The others (19, 28, 42 etc) remain the same as before. There are more changes concerning CRD coming very soon, not quite finalised yet though.
MFS have seemed to have changed as well.
QuoteDoes that make the CFS a young dog? :-P
young and agile unlike another service that could be sonsidered old and stale :roll:
09:15:03 18-10-07 R4HQ STLN: INFO ONLY. STIRLING NORTH WILL BE DUEL RESPONDED TO PORT AUGUSTA WITH MFS FOR FIRE CALLS FOR DURATION OF WATER DISRUPTION - DUE TO BURST MAINS 18/10/2007 9:14:53 AM CFS Stirling North Info
Port Augusta has no water at all.
MFS: INC # 86 - 18/10/07 19:04,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,208 ESPLANADE ,SEAFORD, MAP 195 F 14
,,,SEAF00 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:
hahaha seafoo......... everyone knows what im talking about...
Not sure Mack is that the same as SNAFU? :-D
19:23:58 18-10-07 MFS: *CFSRES: RESPOND OPERATION BINGLE, PORT LINCOLN AIRPORT, 18/10/2007 7:23:45 PM MFS Pt Lincoln Response
wonder what this is :-o an operation with a scripted stuff up?? lol or a real incident gone pear shaped lol
They had the real incident yesterday...and the training exercise today!!
Pip
lol.. they musta felt "knew we should planned it a week early"
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Quote from: Zippy on October 26, 2007, 10:34:21 PM
....soo why not just see WHEN the pager goes...how many people rock up...?
I am GUESSING that page was sent becuase a fire ban was declared, and no one (or not enough) has bothered to let the BDO know if they're available. (I'm also assuming it's a statewide practise to have a radio sched on a fire ban day?)
If you think about why those scheds exisist - so the group (GOs, DGOs, captains etc) have an accurate idea of what resources area available in the instance of an incident, it strikes me as quite fair to give the brigade a rev for being a bit slack.
Waiting ten minutes after a page has gone out to discover that a brigade has no crew is unneccessary on a high fire risk day. Similarly, if you know a neighbouring brigade is low on numbers you can make a conscious effort to fill your own truck, with the knowledge that you'll lose a couple of crew when you reach the fireground.
Lots of good reasons to have a fire ban sched. Bit harder getting crew to keep you informed!
I can never understand why we still have to see if we can get crews on a fire ban day by doing a radio check or call captains...We should treat each day as the same and if its a fire ban then you know you have to page extra units....
Quote from: rescue5271 on October 27, 2007, 10:49:30 AM
I can never understand why we still have to see if we can get crews on a fire ban day by doing a radio check or call captains...We should treat each day as the same and if its a fire ban then you know you have to page extra units....
hence why any rural incident on a TFB is 2nd alarm initial response per SOP.
Guys
But why wait 4, 5 ,6 10 minutes etc to wonder if an you are able to provide an appliance on a high risk fire danger day.
Smarter I would think to know what you have in your station as crew and skill level.
I guess the other stations which perform pre-planning also are incorrect in their management and leadership.
Quote from: ltdan on October 27, 2007, 05:00:19 PM
Guys
But why wait 4, 5 ,6 10 minutes etc to wonder if an you are able to provide an appliance on a high risk fire danger day.
Smarter I would think to know what you have in your station as crew and skill level.
The same could be argued for other (equally urgent)types of call outs...... :| :evil:
It is ultimately up to the Captain to ensure that there are enough crews for various call outs, whatever they may be..... I suppose some brigades do so in a more public fashion than others, via the pager, while others perhaps do so in a less public manner (eg at training, or via some other means).
How the brigade chooses to determine its potential crewing levels is a matter for each individual brigade. :-D
Pip
State Control Centre make mistakes too.
1908894 13:57:39 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 01/11/07 13:57,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MONUMENT RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND, MAP 308 Q 6 ,,,MDDL42*CFSRES: CFS Middleton Response
1908893 14:06:18 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 01/11/07 14:06,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MONUMENT RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND, MAP 308 Q 6 ,,UNNATTENDED BON FIRE,GLWA19 CUCK00*CFSRES: CFS Goolwa Response
tanker gets called first? :?
Yes bit of a muff up there, luckily was just a big pile of tree's, but still :|
Was definatly weird having the tanker pull in 5 mins after us considering it doesn't go over 50 :oops:
Quote from: Mundcfs on November 01, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
Yes bit of a muff up there, luckily was just a big pile of tree's, but still :|
Was definatly weird having the tanker pull in 5 mins after us considering it doesn't go over 50 :oops:
One way of getting it there quicker i suppose.
22:03:26 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 85 - 01/11/07 22:03,RESPOND Fire Alarm,MT GAMBIER MFS,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,INTERSECTION OF BARROWS AND,MINGBOOL ROADS,MTG029*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response
22:07:05 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 85 - 01/11/07 22:06,RESPOND Fire Alarm,MT GAMBIER MFS,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,INT. OF BARROWS AND MINGBOOL ROADS,MTG701*CFSRES: MFS Mt Gambier Response
22:07:09 01-11-07 MFS: STOP FOR FIRE ALARM. SES Mt Gambier Response
:| haha
ANYONE AVAILABLE FOR STRIKE TEAMS IF REQD INSTATE OR INTERSTATE CONTACT THE CAPTAIN ASAP PLEASE CFS Weetulta/Nalyappa Info
So the question here is, is something going down somewhere that the news hasn't picked up on, or is someone just being very efficient in their pre-planning?
No its just good pre-planning, bacause at our last group meeting (Mawson Group) all the Captains were asked to submit name of people who could go on task jobs in or out of state and for how long they could go for.
Quote from: captain on November 02, 2007, 12:00:47 PM
No its just good pre-planning, bacause at our last group meeting (Mawson Group) all the Captains were asked to submit name of people who could go on task jobs in or out of state and for how long they could go for.
That part is the easy bit.
The head-scratcher is this...
You've just sent your only 5 people in-district off on a strike
team to the neighbouring group's area. All the rest of your
members work out-of-area in Adelaide CBD or further..
How to crew the second appliance for _possible_ local fires having
regard for members losing pay (food & shelter).
Remember, there isn't actually a local fire - just the possibility
of one. It may not even be a TFB day. How to spring your members
free of their employers without losing pay & good-will....
cheers
AJ
MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region
NOA029
Noarlunga i presume?? Does this make them a primary RCR response unit now??
Quote from: 24pumper on November 03, 2007, 06:23:14 PM
MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region
NOA029
Noarlunga i presume?? Does this make them a primary RCR response unit now??
rescue code is 19. this is the new codes for SES responses, like our standard fire code is 00, theres is 029.
Possibly wrong dude, no body knows what the codes are (no notification or information give out as yet), but I can tell you this every page for a RCR unit so far is 029 regardless of the task, every page for a non RCR unit is 020. Except NOA029 of course! So who knows, but Noarlunga is the same as Tea Tree Gully, Eastern Suburbs & Metro South - USAR, Shoring,Vertical etc. All metro units are General Rescue units, Storm/Flood damage, so I'm not sure why Noarlunga would be 029 possibly a mistake. Wouldn't be the first :wink: easy way to find out though check out the number on their truck if it is 91, then it is RCR if it is 31 (or 2, 3) then its not. Hope this clears up the confusion.
cheers chook
QuoteMFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region
isn't this akin to sending a fire truck to put out a cigarette butt in an an ash tray?!! :roll:
50cm is quite a large limb for an un equipped person
Quote from: bittenyakka on November 03, 2007, 08:41:12 PM
50cm is quite a large limb for an un equipped person
Depends if you're measuring length or girth...
In some situations I would consider 50cm very well equipped... :P
The call takers usually ask the diameter of the tree/branch not the length. Be a bit hard to call a 50 cm length a tree wouldnt you think?? Would suggest it is the diameter.
1909101 09:13:46 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 30 04/11/07 9;10, RESPOND TO STATION EMERGENCY, DETAILS TO FOLLOW, MAP 000 0 0 *CFSRES: CFS: Angaston
1909101 09:18:48 04-11-07 MFS: LAST MESSAGE HAS NOT BEEN SENT FROM ADELAIDE FIRE CFS: Angaston
Very Interesting....
looks like things got a bit hairy down in the SE last night too...
1929715 02:51:26 04-11-07 STN 70 EMERGENCY PAGE MFS Mt Gambier
1905686 03:00:35 04-11-07 EVERY FIREFIGHTER TO REPORT TO STATION,, GAS METRE TORN, NEED EVERYBODY TO RESPOND, TO HELP WITH SITUATION AND EVACUATION. MFS Mt Gambier Response
and also...
1906658 04:27:20 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:27,RESPOND Tree Down,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CALLER 0405 393 818 TWO TREES OVER ROAD,SAPOL SAY ROAD HAZARD,MTG029 TRPN00*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response
1906658 04:27:58 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:27,RESPOND Tree Down,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8 KMS SOUTH OF TARPEENA,MTG029 TRPN00*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response
1906658 04:35:47 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:35,RESPOND RCR,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UPGRADE CALL TO TARPEENA TO ROAD CRASH RESCUE FROM SAPOL MT. GAMBIER,MTG029*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response
1906674 05:00:33 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 05:00,RESPOND RCR,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8 KMS SOUTH OF TARPEENA/ CALL SES HQ AT MOUNT GAMBIER FIRST,MIL029*CFSRES: SES Wattle Range Response
And earlier today too! Mother Nature has been having some real fun this week
18:16:24 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 05/11/07 18:16,RESPOND RCR,CUDLEE CREEK CFS,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEA TREE GULLY,CHAIN A POND RD,CUDL00*CFSRES: CFS Cudlee Creek Response
Thats the 2nd time recently that Cuddle Creek has been called to a RCR, without a RCR brigades assistance. wheres the SOP?
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1909141 18:29:43 05-11-07 DRIVER REQUIRED ASAP AT THE STATION CFS: Cudlee Creek
1909130 18:25:41 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: GUMERACHA GROUP
1909139 18:25:39 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: Paracombe
Sorry guys that top page would never happen in my unit, no driver default to next resource - simple.
And still no rescue
:-(
Quote from: chook on November 05, 2007, 05:13:20 PM
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1909141 18:29:43 05-11-07 DRIVER REQUIRED ASAP AT THE STATION CFS: Cudlee Creek
1909130 18:25:41 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: GUMERACHA GROUP
1909139 18:25:39 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: Paracombe
Sorry guys that top page would never happen in my unit, no driver default to next resource - simple.
And still no rescue
:-(
OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:
Quote from: SA Firey on November 05, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:
The what? :P
Quote from: CFS_Firey on November 05, 2007, 10:06:57 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on November 05, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:
The what? :P
Road Crash Resource Directory aka the GREEN BOOK :wink:
06:47:50 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 13 - 06/11/07 06:47,RESPOND FACTORY FIRE,PRINCES HWY,MURRAY BRIDGE, MAP 349 F 12 ,,,MNTR00*CFSRES: CFS Mintaro Response
:-D Long drive! 200km's.
Later corrected to Monarto.
I may have misread the pager messages but MFS were never paged?
Yet they call in crews from monarto and jervois?
Rural location - Murray Bridge MFS would not be responded to this??
Monarto are closest brigade to incident so would of been first call, backed up by Murray Bridge with the Jervois bulk water carrier being called due to the remote nature.
Jervois34 also called to assist but stop called shortly afterwards due to the decision to take a defensive strategy......
busier night than usual for these guys...
1919066 00:10:43 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 1 - 06/11/07 00:10,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,14 YORKTOWN RD,ELIZABETH EAST, MAP 52 B 15 ,,NUMBER 50,LOCATED AT SERATODA RD,ADL205 31 ELZ331 ELZ332 SAL329*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1919066 00:26:41 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 2 - 06/11/07 00:26,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,YORKTOWN RD,CRAIGMORE, MAP 52 H 9 ,,EASTERN PARK FOOTY CLUB CARPARK,ELZ331 ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1926877 00:43:45 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 06/11/07 00:43,RESPOND Tree Fire,MAIN NORTH RD,MUNNO PARA, MAP 42 M 6 ,,,ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1919066 01:29:43 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 5 - 06/11/07 01:29,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,PEACHEY RD,DAVOREN PARK, MAP 51 N 5 ,,NEAR FORTINGBRIDGE RD,ELZ331*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1919066 01:53:18 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 7 - 06/11/07 01:53,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,ULEY RD,CRAIGMORE, MAP 52 H 2 ,,IN CARPARK OF RUGBY CLUB.,ELZ331 ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1919066 02:47:22 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 8 - 06/11/07 02:47,RESPOND RCR,CONYNGHAM ST,ELIZABETH EAST, MAP 62 C 4 ,,CAR V PHONE BOX. CAR ON FIRE. OUTSIDE NO 30.,SAL329 ELZ331*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1926877 03:11:11 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 10 - 06/11/07 03:11,RESPOND To,HEWITTSON RD,ELIZABETH WEST, MAP 51 J 8 ,,UNKNOWN TYPE FIRE NEAR OLD DINER,ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
7 jobs in 3 hours, i guess thats what they're paid for.
Just a normal night in Elizabeth, never a dull moment. Dont reckon the Elizabeth crews would ever get much sleep on their night shifts, lol.
Quote from: Crank on November 06, 2007, 02:04:36 PM
I may have misread the pager messages but MFS were never paged?
Yet they call in crews from monarto and jervois?
It might be because the location of the premises is actually Monarto, not Murray Bridge, with it being just about halfway between Monarto & Murray Bridge.
Hence the 2 closest brigades were called initially.....
As for Jervois - the first call was for the Tanker - something the MFS Murray Bridge don't currently have.
I can't see any problem with the responses thus far....
Pip
fair enough i was under the impression it was in or near murray bridge....never mind.
1909007 11:44:07 07-11-07 Congratulations to Allan McGough on this day for 40 years dedicated service to the Upper Sturt Brigade....Thankyou Allan and Well Done!!......Daniel & The Brigade CFS Upper Sturt Info
Well done Allan,so I guess where all going to gate crash the party :roll:
some interesting pages in the way they were sent...
1909165 18:10:18 08-11-07 MFS: INC # 57 - 08/11/07 18:10,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,18 GEOFFREY ST,LEWISTON, MAP 20 F 7 ,,P4 ROOF DAMAGED FROM WIND, YESTERDAY, MRS BRADY PLEASE RING 0418 823 565,GWLR00*CFSRES: CFS Gawler River Response
that was actually a storm damge call for the SES
and this one...
1909304 18:33:34 08-11-07 MFS: CFSRES: BLACKFELLOWS CAVES & KONGORONG RESPOND GRASS FIRE, NEAR CARPENTERS ROCKS CORNER, PT MACDONNELL TURNOFF, CONTACT PORT MAC COMMS CAPT FOR DETAILS 08/11/2007 6:33:22 PM CFS Blackfellows Caves Response
done the old fashioned SHQ way :?
whenever you receive a Airsource sent message from MFS....youll always know....its from ya trustie CFS OCO :)
1919416 14:53:43 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 11/11/07 14:53,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TUNKILLO HOTEL,CAR V 3 MOTORBIKES,MNNM19 PLMR00*CFSRES: CFS: Mannum
1919413 14:53:56 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 11/11/07 14:53,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TUNKILLO HOTEL,CAR V 3 MOTORBIKES,MNNM19 PLMR00*CFSRES: CFS: RIDLEY GROUP
1919417 14:53:54 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 11/11/07 14:53,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TUNKILLO HOTEL,CAR V 3 MOTORBIKES,MNNM19 PLMR00*CFSRES: CFS: Palmer
1908045 15:02:34 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:02,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ADEL-MANNUM RD, 5KM WEST PALMER, MCYCLE V TREE.,MURR00 MRB029*CFSRES: SES: Murray Bridge
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1928012 15:02:33 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:02,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ADEL-MANNUM RD, 5KM WEST PALME SES: SHQ Duty officer pager 2
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1919403 15:02:20 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:02,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ADEL-MANNUM RD, 5KM WEST PALMER, MCYCLE V TREE.,MURR00 MRB029*CFSRES: CFS: Murray Bridge
1909116 15:13:32 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:13,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAR V 3 X BIKES OUTSIDE TUNKILLO HOTEL,MPLT19*CFSRES: CFS: Mt Pleasant
1909111 15:41:30 11-11-07 Mt Pleasant 24p arrived on scene Mannum CFS, Palmer CFS, Murray Bridge SES, Police and Ambulance are also on scene. Vicki 11/11/07 15:48:22 CFS: BAROSSA GROUP
Enough fire cover or what? And before anyone says anything yes initially looks like two incidents but still!
Actually is 3 rescue resources and one fire cover
Your correct my appologies :oops:- still overkill? After all they were motorbikes little risk of entrapment. And yet in other areas fire is responded without rescue to RCR's seems like Raffety's rules out there cheers
No not Rafferty's rules out there. Palmer could not get enough crew to start with for what they thought was 2 different RCR so why not make sure you get enough cover on the road. Are you sure no cars involved to start with they where told 1 car so what is it dammed if you do dammed if you don't.
SAAS were at a stage of thinking there was two RCR's, then back to one, then back to two...lol
better dispatching too much rather than too little.
true, true If I was in a similar position I would have called for support as well. A neighboring unit had a similar problem two jobs very close to each other - turned out two different people called triple 0 and gave slightly different locations. Being called to some else's area I called them up (the other unit) and asked were we really needed. Of course the answer was no. Anyway better to have too much than not enough. The Rafferty's rules comment was about rescue not being called to jobs at all, but fire cover is paged seems to me that the Green book isn't being followed all of the time. cheers
MFS: INC # 86 - 14/11/07 18:34,RESPOND Rescue Animal,LOT 91 MAIN ST,LEASINGHAM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PETER WOULD LIKE A CALL 8XXX XXXX SNAKE IN LAUNDRY MINTARO TO LEASINGHAM RD RAPID 847 377,CLA029*CFSRES
We are turning out TO WHAT :?
You can go in first :-P
MFS: *** stop for call *** inc 86 not req 14/11/2007 6:38:39 PM CFS Clare Response
Bet they dont teach that in BFF1
filtered that! Hate snakes its obvious the call triage is working well - not sure what the girls & boys at Clare would have done when they got there. Chop it up with cutters? Suppose you could catch it with the spreaders - if they closed quick enough :wink: Bet they were sweating on that stop call. I do know of one unit around here who have a registered snake catcher but as I said at the start filtered that! cheers
Quote from: chook on November 14, 2007, 06:21:54 PM
filtered that! Hate snakes its obvious the call triage is working well - not sure what the girls & boys at Clare would have done when they got there. Chop it up with cutters? Suppose you could catch it with the spreaders - if they closed quick enough :wink: Bet they were sweating on that stop call. I do know of one unit around here who have a registered snake catcher but as I said at the start filtered that! cheers
i believe sellicks did a 'snake extrication' back in the day... lol
ya wouldnt catch me doing it though.
Fill it with Luke Warm water, set for trumble dry. :mrgreen:
Quote from: mack on November 14, 2007, 07:18:49 PM
Quote from: chook on November 14, 2007, 06:21:54 PM
filtered that! Hate snakes its obvious the call triage is working well - not sure what the girls & boys at Clare would have done when they got there. Chop it up with cutters? Suppose you could catch it with the spreaders - if they closed quick enough :wink: Bet they were sweating on that stop call. I do know of one unit around here who have a registered snake catcher but as I said at the start filtered that! cheers
I believe Sellicks did a 'snake extrication' back in the day... lol
ya wouldnt catch me doing it though.
Did they do a risk assessment first :lol:
In the words of a well esteemed snake catcher last week on Today Tonight "if you dont get it the first time you wont get a second chance"
There was a page last fire season from a brigade that had one near their BA gear in the station, and members to watchout if they got a call :-o
Also interesting that the call went out to Clare SES but the stop call to Clare CFS. Hope SES got the message in the end.
1909188 14:25:46 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 39 - 15/11/07 14:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HEASLIP RD,MACDONALD PARK, MAP 40 P 10 ,,CORNER CURTIS RD,DALK19 SAIR55 ELZ331*CFSRES:
Anyone know what SAIR55 is?
a bomber??
Might be notification to someone in CFS that bomber might need to be dispatched...???
:?
I would say that would be Air op's...wouldnt have been any bombers since that aint in the Lofty Primary Zone...
Rescue55???
let the theories begin.... :|
It's actually a code for ASIO - when fires occur near secret bases, or when it's suspected terrorism....
MFS: INC # 57 - 15/11/07 17:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,FLOWER ST,ELIZABETH DOWNS, MAP 52 F 6 ,,,SAIR55 ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
MFS: INC # 49 - 15/11/07 16:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GOODRINGTON WAY,MOANA, MAP 205 J 11 ,,,MCLV00 SAIR55 SEAF00 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS McLaren Vale Response
Quote from: CFS_Firey on November 15, 2007, 04:24:50 PM
It's actually a code for ASIO - when fires occur near secret bases, or when it's suspected terrorism....
16:28:16 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 15/11/07 16:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GOODRINGTON WAY,MOANA, MAP 205 J 11 ,,,MCLV00 SAIR55 SEAF00 CDN431*CFSRES
17:27:58 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 57 - 15/11/07 17:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,FLOWER ST,ELIZABETH DOWNS, MAP 52 F 6 ,,,SAIR55 ELZ332*CFSRES:
I dont think its ASIO somehow...
Quote from: uniden on November 15, 2007, 04:57:17 PM
I dont think its ASIO somehow...
It was a joke.. Just so we're clear... :)
Its the Air Desk at CFS, goes to a pager to alert them to a rural incident, then they decide if the bombers are needed and page them. So if you see this on your pager, don't assume the bombers are coming, its not directly to the bombers.
Hope this clarifies things.
The MFS BOMS system will be updated over then next few days to include a pager message to the State Air Desk (located within the CFS State Coordination Centre) for all rural incident types.
Incident Types in BOMS are;
GB Grass Fire Ban Day
GF Grass Fire Danger Season
GO Grass Outside Fire Danger
RW Rubbish/Waste
SA Smoke in area
TF Tree Fire
Note if incident type TO is used for a despatch and the incident is believed to be rural please make sure that SAIR55 is attached to the response.
The State Air Desk will be a recommended response for all of the above incident types statewide, we have not allocated zones just incident types.
Under no circumstances will this resource be removed from a rural despatch, if the incident is not relevant to the State Air Desk it will be ignored by the State Air Desk.
Appliance Name for State Air Desk is SAIR55.
SAIR55 will be displayed as a resource despatched on pagers and MDT messages state wide for the above mentioned incident types.
Note: This does not mean that aircraft will be attending
Upon receiving the pager message the State Coordination Centre Support Officers working in the State Air Desk, assess if the incident is occurring within the primary response zone. If incident is within primary response zone, then State Coordination Support Officers will responds aircraft via pager, included on pager message will be a distance and bearing from the allocated airbase to the incident.
State Coordination Centre Support Officers will then allocate the aircraft to incidents within CRIIMSON
but is there much point in sending them to air ops at this time of night?
1919134 21:39:56 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 75 - 15/11/07 21:39,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,ELIZABETH RD,MAITLAND, MAP 0 0 0 ,,COUNCIL DUMP FIRE,SAIR55 MTLD00 PTVC00*CFSRES:
or is that unavoidable?
i believe that SAIR55 cant be removed from the recommended response for the incident types as Hair has outlined.
From what ive been told bombers for the Mount Lofty Primary Zone started today, with FDI's above 20 making a Auto Dispatch plan in effect roughly between 10am and 5pm.
i think it would be great if it came up as SHQ108 bit more relevent to who it is. SHQ - 108 being Air Ops.
1924962 20:08:50 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 20:06:45 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1909713 20:06:41 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Berri
Does this indicate a MVA? if it does no rescue no fire cover called. Decision made by an operator over 200 ks away, I know fire is a bit busy today - Cobby but there is still SAMFS.
If its not why was SAAS Road Crash Research paged?
Curiouser & Curiouser. If this is an MVA someone had some big kuhunas not to respond anyone else.
cheers
Quote from: chook on November 18, 2007, 07:10:42 PM
1924962 20:08:50 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 20:06:45 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1909713 20:06:41 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Berri
Does this indicate a MVA? if it does no rescue no fire cover called. Decision made by an operator over 200 ks away, I know fire is a bit busy today - Cobby but there is still SAMFS.
If its not why was SAAS Road Crash Research paged?
Curiouser & Curiouser. If this is an MVA someone had some big kuhunas not to respond anyone else.
cheers
This happens more than you think! However be aware that this could be anything from a person being hit by a car to someone falling off their pushbike, a vehicle related accident on private property etc etc. It doesn't always denote a jobe that requires other services. :-)
06:00:22 19-11-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 10 - 19/11/07 06:00,RESPOND ALARM 43/056,SOUTHLINK SEAFORD BUS DEPOT,ERIC RD ,SEAFORD, MAP 195 P 13 ,,,SEAF00 CDN431 STM409*CFSRES: CFS Seaford Response
Only A 25km Drive.......
Quote from: Jono on November 19, 2007, 04:39:06 PM
06:00:22 19-11-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 10 - 19/11/07 06:00,RESPOND ALARM 43/056,SOUTHLINK SEAFORD BUS DEPOT,ERIC RD ,SEAFORD, MAP 195 P 13 ,,,SEAF00 CDN431 STM409*CFSRES: CFS Seaford Response
Only A 25km Drive.......
They were at O'Halloran Hill
MFS: INC # 72 - 19/11/07 17:50,RESPOND RCR,PORT AUGUSTA ,PORT AUGUSTA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ABOUT 70KMS NORTH ON STAURT H/WAY CAR AND HORSE FLOAT ROLLOVER,PAU519*CFSRES: MFS Pt Augusta Response
MFS: CFSRES: respond fire cover RCR 70k nth PT AUG 19/11/2007 5:59:03 PM CFS Stirling Response
MFS: CFSRES: RESPOND FOR FIRE COVER RCR 70K NTH PT AUG 19/11/2007 6:03:36 PM CFS Stirling North Response
Now that would have been a long drive :-o
MFS: ***STOP CALL - OPERATOR ERROR*** 19/11/2007 6:08:55 PM CFS Stirling Response
"This happens more than you think! However be aware that this could be anything from a person being hit by a car to someone falling off their pushbike, a vehicle related accident on private property etc etc. It doesn't always denote a job that requires other services."
Sturt Hwy Berri is the bypass road. not the Old Sturt hwy Berri which is the road thru town - highly unlikely that some of your scenarios would occur. But I take on board your comments as I dig further.
Cheers
question: how do you know when you have an arsonist in your brigade??
answer: when you get pager messages liek this one;
1908054 14:06:59 22-11-07 Any members able to attend call out at 16.30, please phone Ian - 04********
hahaha
ha ha it took me a minute but i get it now!
clever!
*clap clap*
18:28:15 22-11-07 MFS: Contact comcen 82043790 asap re st marys appliance breakdown 22/11/2007 6:28:04 PM MFS
1925577 04:59:54 24-11-07 F174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Fulham
1925576 05:00:52 24-11-07 BP171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Brooklyn Park
1924962 05:02:15 24-11-07 LW2 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1925594 05:02:45 24-11-07 P171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Xark 91 F16 POLx{ SAAS Prospect
1925595 05:03:00 24-11-07 P181 Cat3 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Prospect
1925587 05:11:03 24-11-07 CT174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS City
Looks like an interesting job, anyone know what happened.
Quote from: jasec on November 24, 2007, 08:35:07 AM
1925577 04:59:54 24-11-07 F174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Fulham
1925576 05:00:52 24-11-07 BP171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Brooklyn Park
1924962 05:02:15 24-11-07 LW2 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1925594 05:02:45 24-11-07 P171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Xark 91 F16 POLx{ SAAS Prospect
1925595 05:03:00 24-11-07 P181 Cat3 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Prospect
1925587 05:11:03 24-11-07 CT174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS City
Looks like an interesting job, anyone know what happened.
car v tree, 2 persons extricated
Is it just me or does it seem like were gonna see more RCR's and fires during summertime :|
Well Rob unless you've become a Psychic who knows mate :-D
Just get that ball out Robert and keep rubbing it.........
Quote from: mack on November 24, 2007, 09:09:42 AM
Quote from: jasec on November 24, 2007, 08:35:07 AM
1925577 04:59:54 24-11-07 F174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Fulham
1925576 05:00:52 24-11-07 BP171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Brooklyn Park
1924962 05:02:15 24-11-07 LW2 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1925594 05:02:45 24-11-07 P171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Xark 91 F16 POLx{ SAAS Prospect
1925595 05:03:00 24-11-07 P181 Cat3 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Prospect
1925587 05:11:03 24-11-07 CT174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS City
Looks like an interesting job, anyone know what happened.
car v tree, 2 persons extricated
Cheers Mack
Two large taskings yesterday
13:32:15 24-11-07 MFS: INC # 33 - 24/11/07 13:32,RESPOND Explosive Device,WANDEARAH RD,PORT PIRIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEET AT CNR BALMORAL RD - CORDONED OFF AREA - CAR LOAD OF EXPLOSIVES - POLICE ON SITE - P2 - CALL FROM POLICE,PTP029 PPI501 NAPP00* SES North Region
14:58:04 24-11-07 MFS: INC # 37 - 24/11/07 14:57,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,KIDMAN RD,DRY CREEK, MAP 82 B 12 ,,ON SIDE OF ROAD NEAR TOLL IPEX,SLSB19 APK361 OAK301 SAL329 ADL206 31*CFSRES: CFS Salisbury Response
SES are the Bomb Squad now are they :?
Quote from: SA Firey on November 29, 2007, 05:26:17 PM
SES are the Bomb Squad now are they :?
well if police specifically request them to assist in traffic control... your gonna refuse?
Believe the Bomb tech who attended the Piri job was Military.
Yes ses attended and assisted with traffic and cordons no one in at all was the direction from sapol, the Tech was military and attended with a sapol bomb tech under lights and siren from adelaide. For info Napperby 34 and MFS Pirie 509 also in attendence.
Jono a SES member who attended.
Quote from: mack on November 29, 2007, 06:19:42 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on November 29, 2007, 05:26:17 PM
SES are the Bomb Squad now are they :?
well if police specifically request them to assist in traffic control... your gonna refuse?
I was being sarcastic boys as the page did'nt say required for traffic control :lol: 8-)
17:39:11 30-11-07 TRUR: INFO ONLY- STILL BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR 3 ABORIGINAL MALES IN TRURO AREA-CONSIDERED DANGEROUS PLZ RING SAPOL IF YOU SIGHT THEM. MSG FROM SAPOL- (name) 30/11/2007 5:38:34 PM CFS Truro Info
So what we now work for SAPOL????
Community policing maybe?
Does that mean we get 50 percent of what SAPOL get from the emergency service levy :? :-P
Quote from: Robert34 on December 01, 2007, 08:18:20 AM
Does that mean we get 50 percent of what SAPOL get from the emergency service levy :? :-P
Hmmm, so that would be nothing?
1908852 09:21:54 01-12-07 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: 32000 HECTARE SCRUB FIRE AT PENONG DEH WEST REGION. REFER CRIIMSON FOR DETAILS -DSC WATTS. < 01/12/2007 9:21:42 AM CFS HQ Info
sounds like a good one. Just nothing out there to burn of any concern.
The day before this fire was only 400 hct,so must have got very strong winds over night......
Quote from: rescue5271 on December 02, 2007, 05:44:13 AM
The day before this fire was only 400 hct,so must have got very strong winds over night......
The 400 Hectare fire was at Block 11 at Ngarkat Bill...the other one is on the West Coast between Ceduna and Nundroo :wink:
LOFT: Capts: Region now looking for appliances to go to KI ASAP X6 uncontrolled fires - if you have available crews and appliances please contact Lofty Base soon as poss. Thanks GO (Name) 12/6/2007 CFS Lofty Group Officers Info.
Look's like someone's going on a free overseas trip to KI :-D
Going to be very busy aswell, at least the weather will be nice :-)
1919398 21:39:54 06-12-07 MFS: INC # 201 - 06/12/07 21:39,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ETTRICK ,ETTRICK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SUNNYSIDE OFF OF MARRWONG,ETTR00*CFSRES: CFS Swanport Group Officers Response
1919400 21:44:22 06-12-07 MFS: stop for sunnyside house fire, caller called back to say burn off. 06/12/2007 9:44:11 PM CFS Ettrick Response
One would hope they didn't stop being a TFD and all :|
00:18:41 07-12-07 BE171 Cat2 Jellett Rd, Berri C61 D1 SAAS Berri
00:18:45 07-12-07 BE171 Cat2 Jellett Rd, Berri C61 D1 SAAS Road Crash Research
01:21:11 07-12-07 MFS: INC # 5 - 07/12/07 01:21,RESPOND Assist Police,J C SMITH RD,BERRI, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL AND TOW TRUCK TO REMOVE VEHICLE FROM PREVIOUS ACCIDENT. P3, CONT: BERRI SAPOL,BRI029*CFSRES: SES Berri
Hay Chook what is going on down there?
what happened to fire cover as well?
All ready passed on a complaint to Regional command & a SAAS guy who happened to be standing in the office. It appears our local SAAS people believe its not there job to enquire about fire & rescue cover. Interestingly the SAAS guy I was talking to said they have been told by management on numerous occasions to follow procedure (the guy is not from the local SAAS station but one near by :wink:).
Also the tow truck was called at 12:30, my guys weren't pleased when they found that out!
Hopefully we might get some action this time, I'm hoping that I might be able to talk to the SAAS guys after the exercise on Monday.
I will also be talking to our local SAPOL guy(unit member) on Monday as well, as the patrol had the road blocked with the tow truck but no warning lights or anything.
The incident was a 4x4 ran off the road, landed on its nose, spun 180 & finally sat on the vines. All we did was cut some strainer wires and dragged a vine out of the way. The driver was fine I was told.
Hopefully this was an isolated incident (not being called) and it won't happen again.
However if you see anything like this happening again put a complaint into kingy, I do the same to Scott and we may get things resolved.
cheers
Lithgow Howards Fire Works Factory 4 KM North West of Wallerawang on Wallerawang Portland Road 0 Non Bushfire activity 0 Going 08/12 : 11:00PM
Mmmmmmmm. Interesting.
1909225 12:56:16 09-12-07 CFS: SIG INC: THERE WILL BE A DIAL IN TELECONFERENCE AT 1330 HRS FOR ALL REGIONAL DUTY OFFICERS, DEH & FORESTRY SA DUTY OFFICERS, RE INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT TO KI - PLEASE CONFIRM WITH SCC ON 8231 7999 - DSC EDEN.
Hmmm it sounds like NSW and Victoria are gonna return the favour by sending their fire crews to help battle the KI fires allowing our mainland crews to return home :-)
12:21:26 09-12-07 DISAPPOINTING RESPONSE AGAIN FOR ROSEWORTHY CREW STRIKE TEAM FOR MONDAY THEREFORE CANCELLED. CFS Roseworthy Info
Time some people realised that most people put their paying jobs as a priority ahead of CFS. Especially two weeks before christmas, many workplaces are flat out and asking for time off maybe even unpaid is just not an option. Not to mention those that need to stay behind to protect their own patch..
maybe thats why CFS are looking interstate for releif?
CFS: SIG INC: THERE WILL BE A DIAL IN TELECONFERENCE AT 1330 HRS FOR ALL REGIONAL DUTY OFFICERS, DEH & FORESTRY SA DUTY OFFICERS, RE INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT TO KI - PLEASE CONFIRM WITH SCC ON 8231 7999 - DSC EDEN. > 09/12/2007 12:56:15
1909181 12:21:26 09-12-07 DISAPPOINTING RESPONSE AGAIN FOR ROSEWORTHY CREW STRIKE TEAM FOR MONDAY THEREFORE CANCELLED. CFS Roseworthy Info
Maybe no one wants to go as they have work/family/business commitments if these fires are going to drag on and affect our resources(members) then time to call in out side help. this kind of pager message is not needed and some members might take offence!!!!!!!
Is there an echo in this thread?
I did not see it already on there at the time....It is good to see that CFA/TASSIE and NSW along with MFS are now coming into help along with one skycrane from Victoria
May I ask where the pager messages people are posting are from..I seem to have lost the Site??
Is there an echo in this thread?
Quote from: Smokeydk on December 09, 2007, 06:41:21 PM
May I ask where the pager messages people are posting are from..I seem to have lost the Site??
Here you go smokey
http://www.sacfs.org/paging/ (http://www.sacfs.org/paging/)
or
[link removed - no longer working]
Thanks Mate....noted, I felt out of the loop....^5s, our brigade as crew on KI.
MFS: INC # 42 - 14/12/07 11:38,RESPOND RCR,TWENTYTHIRD ST,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2 CAR MVA CNR STURT HWY,NIL ENTRAPMENTS FROM SAAS,REN029 REN618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response
MFS: FROM SAAS - PERSONS MAY BE TRAPPED CFSRES MFS Renmark Response
Hmmm okay so which is it :-o
They were a slight entrapment Renmark got them out after they got a crew - not too serious I was told both PT's out of vehicle before we arrived.
I was notified of the requirement to respond a minute or so before the page below:-
1918237 11:45:41 14-12-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 14/12/07 11:45,RESPOND RCR,TWENTYTHIRD ST,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CNR STURT H/WAY..RENMARK PROBLEMS GETTING CREW,BRI029*CFSRES: SES Berri
So can only go by what I was told over the radio.
cheers
05:09:00 17-12-07 THANKS everybody only ONE person has turned up for this call you are making it very easy for MFS to move in. Seaford Captain - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info
:-o :-o :-o :-o
And people want to take rescue tasks off us - what can I say.
maybe no one was available at all..people do need sleep before work in the morning...Defaulting isnt the death knell.
fighting against MFS just for a rubbish fire...ehhh im sure they would have it in hand b4 the CFS truck was mobile.
No its not, however when elements with in CFS/SAMFS are constantly pushing for the demise of SES Rescue then it should be an indication that such plans are potentially dangerous
1908931 11:15:47 17-12-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 17/12/07 11:15,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAY TCE,PENNESHAW, MAP 0 0 0 ,,NEAR THE FERRY - CAR VS FENCE,PENN00*CFSRES: CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908937 11:15:45 17-12-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 17/12/07 11:15,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAY TCE,PENNESHAW, MAP 0 0 0 ,,NEAR THE FERRY - CAR VS FENCE,PENN00*CFSRES: CFS Penneshaw Response
1908931 11:29:30 17-12-07 MFS: RESCUE 51 REQUIRES A LANDING SITE FOR HELECOPTER AT PENNESHAW - PLEASE ADVISE ADELAIDE FIRE OF LOCATION 17/12/2007 11:29:17 AM CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908937 11:29:28 17-12-07 MFS: RESCUE 51 REQUIRES A LANDING SITE FOR HELECOPTER AT PENNESHAW - PLEASE ADVISE ADELAIDE FIRE OF LOCATION 17/12/2007 11:29:17 AM CFS Penneshaw Response
No rescue again?
cheers
An MFS appliance was also sent to this call at 1121 Hrs...not sure if they had rescue gear on board.....?
However, even if they did have rescue gear, the set down protocols for that area are not being followed.....
Pip
OK yeah sure it was only a small rubbish fire (infact play equipment i think in the end) and it was in MFS area (just). So does that make it OK for my crew to lay in bed and make the call not to go, just because it might be some crappy little rubbish fire, and MFS might beat us there, so what. The pager has gone off for a reason what ever it might be, how do any of my crew know that the Christies units might be doing at that time, they might be committed with a Fixed Alarm or a MVA else were in their own area and require our help. My personal thoughts are, we get too much info on the pagers and crews make up their minds weather to get out of bed or not, if it was a call for an MVA or a domestic I bet I could have had 2 units on the road no problems. Bring back the old link pagers I say (a tone and a red flashing light) back then we could get 2 units on the road and have 2 relief crew at the station on standby. AHHH bring back the good old days.
Yep I would be filtered too - good on you!
cheers
With regards to the KI RCR,
SES have a dedicated vehicle and crew on the island based at Pandana Basecamp for the duration of the fires so they can relieve local crews. They will not be responded by pager, instead directly by phone or radio (or even tapping them on the shoulder) by SES Command. Although Kingscote SES is still active and Penneshaw would be their area normally (??) I'm sure the SES rescue truck also went.
I believe Kingscote SES is the rescue response for that area...besides, anything at Parndana is about a 40 minute or so drive......
Interesting tho', there was a crash part way between American River & Penneshaw last night (Sunday night)- both CFS & SES in attendance, but I can't find a pager message for either.....so the radio / phone contact might have been the way things were done...
Pip
Quote from: captain on December 17, 2007, 12:39:50 PM
OK yeah sure it was only a small rubbish fire (infact play equipment i think in the end) and it was in MFS area (just). So does that make it OK for my crew to lay in bed and make the call not to go, just because it might be some crappy little rubbish fire, and MFS might beat us there, so what. The pager has gone off for a reason what ever it might be, how do any of my crew know that the Christies units might be doing at that time, they might be committed with a Fixed Alarm or a MVA else were in their own area and require our help. My personal thoughts are, we get too much info on the pagers and crews make up their minds weather to get out of bed or not, if it was a call for an MVA or a domestic I bet I could have had 2 units on the road no problems. Bring back the old link pagers I say (a tone and a red flashing light) back then we could get 2 units on the road and have 2 relief crew at the station on standby. AHHH bring back the good old days.
They are still Volunteers.
You keep sending pager messages like that, and you won't have members. . Even harder to respond then.
I tend to agree.....
I always have believed that it is better to value what time can be given rather than ridicule people for not giving what you may expect.
By actively thanking people for what they can give I have found they in turn want to give more. It takes time but you can turn the tide..... :-)
But these people who are not turning up are the same people that where screaming blue murder when all the whole seaford MFS thing started, you cant jump up and down trying to defend your brigades existence one week then role over and not rock up to jobs the next.
.. & granted.. - However I don't think messages like the one shown, are the method to improve response / crew issues!
Well if members are not willing to get out of bed for all type of call outs and only want to go to the ggod one then there is a need for the action that was taken..Good on their captain for doing it....Time members if able to attend call outs stopped selecting what they want to go to....Its the same with fixed alarms at 3am in winter no one wants to get out of bed but one day there will be a working job from a fixed alarm....
My opinion still stands. - Treat vollies like that, and you won't have them for long.
Quote from: RescueHazmat on December 17, 2007, 07:02:04 PM
My opinion still stands. - Treat vollies like that, and you won't have them for long.
Maybe not, but odds on that the thoughts of the vollies when they saw the response message were "ah, we always get a crew, someone else will get this one." and back to sleep they go.
Sometimes it pays to remind members that 'someone else' won't always get there.
Well they got their domestic job and it was a clan lab explosion very protracted incident :-o
I love people who jump all over 'lazy' vollies.
We have had times that during the day, we might at best, have 6 people available. 2 of those are shift workers, 2 are self employed and 2 of them are student. What happens when two blokes are on shift, the self employed blokes are busy and the student are studying?
Granted, it doesn't often happen, but if I have the choice of staying at work or pissing off my boss to attend a job in MFS area, that MFS will beat us to and we will almost certainly get stopped en route, what am I going to do?
19:51:34 18-12-07 MFS: INC # 56 - 18/12/07 19:51,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KANGARILLA CFS,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,IN FRONT OF KANGARILLA CEMETRY,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Kangarilla Response
20:16:37 18-12-07 MV171 Cat2 Kangarilla Rd, Kangarilla POLICE REQUIRED SAAS McLaren Vale
.....and you lot were bagging SAAS comms for not calling quick enough!
there's a story about people and glasshouses and stones...but I can't remember how it goes - can anyone enlighten me??
Fire Bug in and around the Happy Valley area maybe. :?
00:27:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 19/12/07 00:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,2 PRIDHAM CT,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 K 6 ,,,HPPY00 CRML00 SAIR55 OHH421*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
02:11:28 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 6 - 19/12/07 02:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,15 BROOKS CCT,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 F 14 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
04:46:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 9 - 19/12/07 04:45,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SOUTHBOUND AV,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 C 13 ,,MULCH BURNING IN PLAYGROUND,SAIR55 HPPY00*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
Quote from: jasec on December 19, 2007, 03:40:14 AM
Fire Bug in and around the Happy Valley area maybe. :?
00:27:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 19/12/07 00:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,2 PRIDHAM CT,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 K 6 ,,,HPPY00 CRML00 SAIR55 OHH421*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
02:11:28 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 6 - 19/12/07 02:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,15 BROOKS CCT,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 F 14 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
04:46:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 9 - 19/12/07 04:45,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SOUTHBOUND AV,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 C 13 ,,MULCH BURNING IN PLAYGROUND,SAIR55 HPPY00*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
You missed one
MFS: INC # 11 - 19/12/07 05:03,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,INVESTIGATOR DR,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 G 11 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES:
Yeah thanks for no sleep filtered :evil:
i can see what a lot of members woulda done. "Sleep time for the pager"
MFS: INC # 30 - 19/12/07 10:45,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TRUCK ROLLOVER 6 KMS FROM PALMER ON THE PALMER TO MURRAY BRIDGE ROADNEAR RIEDY CREEK
Palmer 1045AM
Mannum & Mt Pleasant 1051AM
SES Murray Bridge 1053AM
Could comm's do a bit of thinking before paging just a Fire Only responding brigade, it'd get things running smoother and quicker for incidents. Its quite easy to know a single brigade that doesnt have RCR equipment other than a Toolbox cant deal with a Truck rollover themselves. the only thing that helps RCR brigades out in the Palmer District is 100km/h designed roads.
Reminder, unit breakup family fun night tonight, BBQ and soft drinks supplied. bring a salad. 6-30 rotary park Rankine st. Water slide so be prepared SES Strathalbyn
What about the water restrictions fellas :-P
MFS: CFSRES MT PLEASANT ** STOP CALL** FOR MVA, PALMER, FROM MANNUM CAPTAIN 19/12/2007 10:52:39 AM CFS Mount Pleasant Response
MFS: CFSRES: MT PLEASANT RESPOND MVA TRUCK ROLLOVER, MURRAY BRIDGE - PALMER RD, 6 KMS FROM PALMER, CREW STILL REQUIRED FROM MT PLEASANT CAPT 19/12/2007 11:00:15 AM CFS Mount Pleasant Response
OOPS :-o
Quote from: SA Firey on December 19, 2007, 04:53:30 AM
Quote from: jasec on December 19, 2007, 03:40:14 AM
Fire Bug in and around the Happy Valley area maybe. :?
00:27:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 19/12/07 00:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,2 PRIDHAM CT,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 K 6 ,,,HPPY00 CRML00 SAIR55 OHH421*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
02:11:28 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 6 - 19/12/07 02:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,15 BROOKS CCT,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 F 14 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
04:46:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 9 - 19/12/07 04:45,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SOUTHBOUND AV,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 C 13 ,,MULCH BURNING IN PLAYGROUND,SAIR55 HPPY00*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
You missed one
MFS: INC # 11 - 19/12/07 05:03,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,INVESTIGATOR DR,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 G 11 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES:
Yeah thanks for no sleep filtered :evil:
Hadnt had that job when i posted, fun night for the guys n girls, you would have been walking around like a zombie today.
Does it really make sense to respond Morphett Vale, Happy Valley and MFS to jobs in Woodcroft? Why wasnt Woodcroft divided up into areas? ie this part is Morphett Vales and this part is Happy Valleys...
i totally agree, Seems a lot of the dual response/ema work is causing a lot of grief around the fringe.
Why grief?.. Can't hear the crews complaining.
Grass fire, FDS, CFS area. 2 Brigades for CFS isn't it?.. + 1 from MFS due to the EMA.. - Seems to be working if you ask me.
talking about "around the fringe" all the way from Seaford to Dalkeith. not singling out any incidents, just general consistant stop calls to incidents where MFS could easily be by themselves, or MFS leave it to CFS.
EMA Zippy.. =)
Quote from: uniden on December 19, 2007, 08:15:37 PM
Does it really make sense to respond Morphett Vale, Happy Valley and MFS to jobs in Woodcroft? Why wasnt Woodcroft divided up into areas? ie this part is Morphett Vales and this part is Happy Valleys...
woodcroft IS split between Happy and MV....
havent we heard of SOPs for minimum responses?? wow... we talk about them pretty often.
as rescuehazmat said:
Quote from: RescueHazmat on December 19, 2007, 08:48:16 PM
Grass fire, FDS, CFS area. 2 Brigades for CFS isn't it
Don't forget Mack, 99% of CFS brigades don't know what an SOP is, so you can't expect them to understand why these brigades such as Happy Valley and Morphett Vale do what they do. I think its very professional to cover your backside. Most brigades in the urban fringe have a setup like this, the public expect it. Bob's ute isn't acceptable in 2007 even though a large number of CFS in not so small towns still do it day in day out, with no come back, its funny how the brigades that try and do the right thing cop the most abuse from their fellow vols, yet the one's that constantly screw up never get a mention, in fact get supported by people in HQ. Sigh, makes me wonder......... :roll:
PS: Kudos to those brigades, especially with the call rates those guys have been doing the last week or so. Makes you more appreciative of those slow spells :-)
I think you will find that most members are well aware of what SOP's are and how they work the problem is that CFS does not explain how the busy brigade's are able to keep going the way they do. Its also well knowen that region one brigades who do EMS are by far the busiest in the state,time that we as a service stopped knocking each other and gave more support to these brigade's. CFS also needs to start looking at putting in more pumpers to these brigade's rather than part time pumpers....Its not only city brigae's that are busy some country stations are getting more work now than they ever have had before.
If it is split why are 2 brigades responded so often?
SOP is 2 appliances not necesarrily 2 brigades. Happy Valley has 3 units and Morphett Vale 2 last I heard...
QuoteIf it is split why are 2 brigades responded so often?
SOP is 2 appliances not necesarrily 2 brigades. Happy Valley has 3 units and Morphett Vale 2 last I heard...
Because neither brigade can guarantee two appliances every time. Thefore to ensure that appropriate B.A. backup is responding to C Class and above incidents two brigades are responded.
For info Morphett Vale has a 24P, 24 and a 14 CAFS.
In metro area's you should always page two brigade's and send one appliance from each station,how ever that does not work in the country as some brigades are 45km apart.....or more.....
Quote from: uniden on December 20, 2007, 07:07:18 PM
If it is split why are 2 brigades responded so often?
SOP is 2 appliances not necesarrily 2 brigades. Happy Valley has 3 units and Morphett Vale 2 last I heard...
So is there any single brigade that can 100% guarantee they can respond one, let alone two, appliance to an incident 24/7... and in a timely manner?
Quote from: rescue5271 on December 20, 2007, 01:33:07 PM
I think you will find that most members are well aware of what SOP's are and how they work the problem is that CFS does not explain how the busy brigade's are able to keep going the way they do.
was that meant to say "how the busy brigades are meant to keep"??
otherwise i think there are only two words that explain it for you; professionalism & commitment.
Good timing...
1908919 19:31:55 22-12-07 FIVE PERSONS REQUIRED FOR B SHIFT PLEASE PHONE 0438801329
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Admin/Info
19:34:57 22-12-07 MFS: INC # 121 - 22/12/07 19:34,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,NORTH RD,NAIRNE, MAP 162 A 8 ,,CORNER SYDNEY RD CAR INTO CREEK,MBKR19 NAIR00*CFSRES:
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Response
1919413 16:55:20 23-12-07 MFS: INC # 36 - 23/12/07 16:55,RESPOND To,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SETUP OVAL FOR LANDING SITE .RESCUE 1 ETA 1700HRS. FROM MANNUM CAPTAIN,MNNM19*CFSRES: CFS Ridley Group Officers Response
Well thanks for the short notice,yet again......
F70 WITH THE STATE OF THE CALL TAKING SHE COULD BE DEAD BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE SAAS Fulham
Ummmm, I think someone in SAAS comms dont like some procedures
Quote from: alphaone on December 30, 2007, 02:52:13 PM
F70 WITH THE STATE OF THE CALL TAKING SHE COULD BE DEAD BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE SAAS Fulham
Ummmm, I think someone in SAAS comms dont like some procedures
F12 OOPS PLEASE DISREGARD - LEARNER AT HELM -
This might explain it :-P
1929055 20:38:43 30-12-07 MFS: STOP FOR THE NUFFER... 30/12/2007 8:38:31 PM
1929055 20:38:30 30-12-07 MFS: *CFSRES: NUFFER RESPOND TEST ONLY, TEST STREET, TEST TOWN, DO NOT RESPOND TEST ONLY 30/12/2007 8:38:18 PM CFS messages ?
If this really where a brigade it'd be funny to see the look on the faces of the public when they realise the CFS has gone and responded the Nuffer brigade...... they'd all be doomed...
Edit: Wrong thread....woops
Quote from: SA Firey on December 30, 2007, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: alphaone on December 30, 2007, 02:52:13 PM
F70 WITH THE STATE OF THE CALL TAKING SHE COULD BE DEAD BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE SAAS Fulham
Ummmm, I think someone in SAAS comms dont like some procedures
F12 OOPS PLEASE DISREGARD - LEARNER AT HELM -
This might explain it :-P
Those messages went too different cars.. - Im guessing they are un-related..
Quote1929055 20:38:43 30-12-07 MFS: STOP FOR THE NUFFER... 30/12/2007 8:38:31 PM
1929055 20:38:30 30-12-07 MFS: *CFSRES: NUFFER RESPOND TEST ONLY, TEST STREET, TEST TOWN, DO NOT RESPOND TEST ONLY 30/12/2007 8:38:18 PM CFS messages ?
It'd be funny to know who recived these messages, must be a real nuffer! to annoy adelaide fire.
:roll: it's a comms operator doing testing (quite common!)
1925389 20:08:18 31-12-07 MFS: INC # 129 - 31/12/07 20:08,RESPOND Tree Down,2 HYDE ST,PORT PIRIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,AT THREADGOLD PARK, BLOCKING 3/4 OF ROAD. PRIORITY 2,PPI501*CFSRES: MFS Pt Pirie
Why SAMFS?
:-(
Im guessing the ' potential risk to life ' was deemed high enough for an immediate response. (Port Pirie being fulltime)..
1918578 22:51:11 31-12-07 MFS: INC # 157 - 31/12/07 22:51,RESPOND LPG TANK/BULLET,MOONTA ,MOONTA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BULLET AT BP IN MOONTA LEAKING,MNT681 KAD661*CFSRES: MFS: Moonta
Dont light that match!!!! :-o :-o
someone is in for a long night
Im guessing the ' potential risk to life ' was deemed high enough for an immediate response. (Port Pirie being fulltime)..
And?
Other responses aren't? This task isn't a SAMFS task, remember these are the same guys who are complaining about lack of resources
But I guess that doesn't matter & I thought that they were both full time & retained.
cheers
Do they still have a tears icon on here, far out :roll:
Ah but when the tables are turn - who are the first to complain :wink:
Personally I don't care, however the act states Storm/ Flood SES.
And when you consider about 80% of the SAMFS budget is wages, then you can see why there isn't any money for extra appliances, fire fighters etc.
I posted the Pirie job to highlight the hypocrisy in the services, this is one of many!
However if you guys want to keep doing those type jobs, which you don't get funded for - fine. I'm sure the Pirie SES crew were happy not to interupt their New Years eve celebrations.
Oh and here is the tears icon :cry:
Cheers :wink:
Quote from: RescueHazmat on December 31, 2007, 08:37:42 PM
Im guessing the ' potential risk to life ' was deemed high enough for an immediate response. (Port Pirie being fulltime)..
Business rules state it should have been a dual response....common problem in major regional centres & metro areas...
TRUR: ALL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN TODAYS GRASSFIRE ARE TO REPORT IN PERSON TO THE STATION IMMEDIATELY - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:26:59 PM CFS Truro Info
TRUR: ALL MEMBERS NOT WORKING ARE TO REPORT TO STATION NOW - REGIONAL COMMANDER 2/01/2008 9:53:27 PM CFS Truro Info
Oh oh :-o
Yeah whats up with that????? :?
Quote from: Crownie24 on January 02, 2008, 08:37:57 PM
Yeah whats up with that????? :?
Oh to be a fly on the wall :-o
Don't think its a pat on the back
wonder if it has anything to do with
15:54:18 02-01-08 TRUR: HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL, WHAT BETTER WAY TO WORK OFF A HANGOVER AND ALL THAT FOOD THAN ATTENDING TRAINING TONIGHT? - EXERCISES INVOLVING - DRAUGHTING, WATER RELAY, SMD 1, RUNNING GRASSFIRES AND MOPPING UP TACTICS - TIMED TEAM BASED EVENTS CFS Truro Info
and/or
17:33:54 02-01-08 MFS: INC # 69 - 02/01/08 17:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,TRURO CFS,TRURO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ST KITTS, 4KN NW OF TRURO,SAIR55 TRUR00 NTPA19*CFSRES: CFS Truro Response
then
20:56:18 02-01-08 TRUR: TRURO 3-4 & 2-4 ARE NOW BACK AT STATION, RESPONDING AS NORMAL 2/01/2008 8:55:59 PM CFS Truro Info
I thought it was the captain being sarcastic but when an RO demands an attendance I think it is much more involved...
Then came these 2 pager messages for the TRURO brigade :|
1909108 21:27:35 02-01-08 TRUR: ALL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN TODAYS GRASSFIRE ARE TO REPORT IN PERSON TO THE STATION IMMEDIATELY - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:26:59 PM CFS Truro Info
1909108 21:34:48 02-01-08 TRUR: FURTHER TO LAST - CAN ALL AVAILABLE PERSONNEL NOT INVOLVED IN TODAYS FIRE ALSO RESPOND TO THE STATION - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:34:11 PM CFS Truro Info
Quote from: Robert34 on January 03, 2008, 07:22:22 AM
Then came these 2 pager messages for the TRURO brigade :|
1909108 21:27:35 02-01-08 TRUR: ALL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN TODAYS GRASSFIRE ARE TO REPORT IN PERSON TO THE STATION IMMEDIATELY - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:26:59 PM CFS Truro Info
1909108 21:34:48 02-01-08 TRUR: FURTHER TO LAST - CAN ALL AVAILABLE PERSONNEL NOT INVOLVED IN TODAYS FIRE ALSO RESPOND TO THE STATION - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:34:11 PM CFS Truro Info
Because one, all encompassing page wasn't funny enough!
does anyone know anymore about this??
:-o :-o :? :? :-o :-o
sounds like a bend over and kiss your donkey good bye thing!!
I am sure it will come out......
Quote from: mack on December 22, 2007, 06:08:18 PM
Good timing...
1908919 19:31:55 22-12-07 FIVE PERSONS REQUIRED FOR B SHIFT PLEASE PHONE 0438801329
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Admin/Info
19:34:57 22-12-07 MFS: INC # 121 - 22/12/07 19:34,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,NORTH RD,NAIRNE, MAP 162 A 8 ,,CORNER SYDNEY RD CAR INTO CREEK,MBKR19 NAIR00*CFSRES:
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Response
Darn straight it was... B shift starts at 20:00!
MFS: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM LOCHABER 34 PORTABLE RADIO. GO, DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELADIE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. *CFSRES: 06/01/2008 9:31:59 AM CFS Lochaber Response
opps someone pushed the wrong button...
They did push the wrong button.......
Quote from: Jono on January 06, 2008, 08:09:37 AM
MFS: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM LOCHABER 34 PORTABLE RADIO. GO, DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELADIE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. *CFSRES: 06/01/2008 9:31:59 AM CFS Lochaber Response
opps someone pushed the wrong button...
Before that page went out, this one from Southern Fleurieu went.
MFS: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM STH FLEURIEU CAR 2. GO, DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELADIE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. *CFSRES: 06/01/2008 8:39:51 AM
Wonder what page of the SOP's they misread, on Testing communications equipment lol...
Im sure the guys at Adelaide Fire would have lifted an eye brow.
MFS: INC # 43 - 06/01/08 13:01,RESPOND To,213 WEST TCE,CALLINGTON, MAP 000 0 0 ,,ASSIST AMB WITH 13 YEAR OLD WITH BRAKE HANDLE THROUGH LEG,CALN00*CFSRES: CFS Swanport Group Officers Response
Ouch
Dare say that job should have included a Rescue resource..
From the radio traffic SAAS wanted man power to lift gear and the patient....
MFS: INC # 29 - 07/01/08 08:11,RESPOND To,1 ROBIN ST,MURRAY BRIDGE, MAP 350 F 15 ,,COMPLAINING OF
SMELLING SMOKE IN HER HOUSE - BELIEVED TO BE THE 3RD TIME,MBR721*CFSRES:
surely enough is enough....
time to umm...sweep out the druggies? :evil:
12:08:05 07-01-08 LOFT: All Brigades who wish to transfer to "ONLINE" AIRS ie: submit AIRS on your computer.. Please let Rainer know 0438 560 ### 07/01/2008 CFS Lofty Group Officers Info
Online AIRS reports... Finally!
i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.
Quote from: mack on January 07, 2008, 11:28:23 AM
i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.
An article in the latest volunteer directed any brigades interested in using online reporting to contact someone-whose-name-I-don't-remember. Didn't give a timeline on when it would be implemented by the masses.
Quote from: littlejohn on January 07, 2008, 06:30:24 PM
Quote from: mack on January 07, 2008, 11:28:23 AM
i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.
An article in the latest volunteer directed any brigades interested in using online reporting to contact someone-whose-name-I-don't-remember. Didn't give a timeline on when it would be implemented by the masses.
SOPO Yvette Dowling.
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 98 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
UH??? STATION 98, WTF???
Could be a number used for a station MDT or a training MDT? A few on here will probably be able to clarify..
98 & pump 981 are training numbers i believe... training & testing.
331's MDT has been playing up i believe...hence it may be fixed now ;)
Quote from: Zippy on January 08, 2008, 05:13:29 PM
331's MDT has been playing up i believe...hence it may be fixed now ;)
theyve always had MDT problems... i think the problem now is an MCT
1909108 19:39:15 09-01-08 TRUR: ** EXERCISE ONLY ** INC # 1, RESPOND GRASS FIRE, TRURO CFS, TRURO, MAP 0 0 0 ,, ST KITTS RD, 6KM NW OF TRURO, RAPID NO 264 954, TRUR00*CFSRES: **EXERCISE ONLY** 9/01/2008 7:38:40 PM CFS: Truro
.........
....?
This was a previous incident that has been remarked as an exercise....so something must have been really borked for them to need to review or re do their turn-out procedures or whatever it is, if you look back at the previous page(s) you will see what has led up to this.
It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong.
Quote from: Crownie24 on January 09, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
This was a previous incident that has been remarked as an exercise....so something must have been really borked for them to need to review or re do their turn-out procedures or whatever it is, if you look back at the previous page(s) you will see what has led up to this.
It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong.
I think it is fantastic that the Brigade or whoever is mature enough to realise something has gone wrong, identify the training need and quickly train whoever to prevent it happening again.
No Andrew I think they got kicked :wink: So I think they didn't get a choice.
cheers
Quote from: chook on January 09, 2008, 07:36:44 PM
No Andrew I think they got kicked :wink: So I think they didn't get a choice.
cheers
...ahhhh for some people the cup of life is half-full, not half-empty...I still think the specific training in an identified knowledge gap is great...at least the volunteers did not say 'we were told off so stuff it' & walk away.
Filtered Hell!
1928011 19:48:35 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: SES Central Region
1908016 19:48:33 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: SES Enfield Response Duty Officer?
1908870 19:48:24 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response
1908871 19:48:22 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS Athelstone Response
Good to see the services working together but.
I'm a half filled person Andrew :wink:
cheers
K77 no fire and Stop Call from 301. situation found 210 or 310 (pipe rupture or medical assistance) lol bit fuzzy...and action take 21 (assistance/rescue)
Ok thanks Zippy
cheers
1908870 19:48:24 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response
1908871 19:48:22 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS Athelstone Response
Yeah we arrived upon getting the stop, guy tried to set himself alight medical treatment only taken to hospital CAT 2 with the police escort :roll:
1909508 22:45:16 10-01-08 Name:JOHN SIGNORIELLO Number:08******** Address:PARK ON KURRAJONG AVE -KOALA HAS BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 3 HOURS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED THE KOALA TO THE BASE OF THE TREE AND JUST WONT STOP DRINKING JOHN IS QUITE CONCERNED Suburb:ATHELSTONE DEH Northern Lofty Duty Officer
If it wont stop drinking that means it must be severly dehydrated :-)
Quote from: Robert34 on January 11, 2008, 06:12:01 AM
1909508 22:45:16 10-01-08 Name:JOHN SIGNORIELLO Number:08******** Address:PARK ON KURRAJONG AVE -KOALA HAS BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 3 HOURS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED THE KOALA TO THE BASE OF THE TREE AND JUST WONT STOP DRINKING JOHN IS QUITE CONCERNED Suburb:ATHELSTONE DEH Northern Lofty Duty Officer
If it wont stop drinking that means it must be severly dehydrated :-)
It also means there sick.
1925563 17:06:20 11-01-08 P127 Cat5 Riverton Ambulance Stn Ri Torrens Rd, Riverton C251 D10 SAAS Prospect
bit of a drive.
not unusual anymore
the RFDS has implemented a policy in which they refuse to fly any patients to the city from the riverland, yorke Peninsula and the southern end of the mid-north anymore! wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick and choose your work and defer it onto another agency?!!
Quote from: jasec on January 11, 2008, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: Robert34 on January 11, 2008, 06:12:01 AM
1909508 22:45:16 10-01-08 Name:JOHN SIGNORIELLO Number:08******** Address:PARK ON KURRAJONG AVE -KOALA HAS BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 3 HOURS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED THE KOALA TO THE BASE OF THE TREE AND JUST WONT STOP DRINKING JOHN IS QUITE CONCERNED Suburb:ATHELSTONE DEH Northern Lofty Duty Officer
If it wont stop drinking that means it must be severly dehydrated :-)
It also means there sick.
Sounds like many other Aussies on a Thursday evening, drinking to excess and not moving much.
Quotenot unusual anymore
the RFDS has implemented a policy in which they refuse to fly any patients to the city from the riverland, yorke Peninsula and the southern end of the mid-north anymore! wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick and choose your work and defer it onto another agency?!!
as a nursing student who has completed attachment days with both adelaide and port augusta RFDS bases i would suggest that unless it is a retrieval (not all rfds jobs are) that by the time you factor in the 45 minutes it takes them to get airborne after recieveing call combined with flying time.......it may actually be quicker to drive them into town from yorke peninsula. (ps: wallaroo now has 5 ATS officer's)
Understand it has something to do with the green stuff(money) and that the cost of fuel and running cost,they will still be doing medivacs...That might explan why we are seing the chopper down here more often these days...They tell me SAAS used to have their own aircraft years ago and they gave them to RFDS in the end....
1908981 06:00:20 12-01-08 Good morning everyone in future can we all turn up to fire calls regardless of the call thank you - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info
Not helping the issue is it :roll:
Attention all some of you are supposed to be at a First Aid course today nobody has shown up please rectify MFS Whyalla Response
OOPS
MFS: SIG INC: INFORMATION ONLY: AIRDESK UNABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO 60 WAYMOUTH STREET. AIRDESK OPERATING FROM MFS COMMS UFN. AFTER HOURS ATTENDING TO FIX PROBLEM. 12/01/2008 8:00:25 AM CFS HQ Info
I SAID "OPEN SESAME" :-P
Quote from: SA Firey on January 12, 2008, 08:59:30 AM
MFS: SIG INC: INFORMATION ONLY: AIRDESK UNABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO 60 WAYMOUTH STREET. AIRDESK OPERATING FROM MFS COMMS UFN. AFTER HOURS ATTENDING TO FIX PROBLEM. 12/01/2008 8:00:25 AM CFS HQ Info
I SAID "OPEN SESAME" :-P
Maybe the internet service provider that Airdesk uses was down at the time probably having maintenance :-)
lol nah robert...i believe it means they were locked out of the building ;)
What is the issue with this response????
MFS: INC # 48 - 12/01/08 16:05,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAROSSA VALLEY HWY,GAWLER EAST, MAP 24 B 7 ,,1 VEH VS FENCE UNKOWN INJ NEAR CONCORDIA CFS DVR INTOXICATED,GAW359*CFSRES:
My theory: Response was based on the "Barossa Highway, Gawler East" address rather than the extra information given.
Here's a bit of a muff up
1924962 10:52:06 12-01-08 V81 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11
1908895 10:54:27 12-01-08 MFS: INC # 31 - 12/01/08 10:54,RESPOND RCR,WAGGON RD,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 303 M 11 ,,CAR VS BUS 3 KNOWN CASUALTIES NEAR GREENHILLS ADVENTURE PARK,MCMP19 HIND00*CFSRES: CFS Mount Compass Response
1924962 10:55:43 12-01-08 GO81 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11 SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 10:55:36 12-01-08 V76 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11 SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 10:59:00 12-01-08 OC4 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11 SAAS Road Crash Research
1905665 10:59:42 12-01-08 MFS: INC # 31 - 12/01/08 10:59,RESPOND RCR,WAGGON RD,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 303 M 11 ,,CAR VS BUS 3 CASUALTIES NEAR GREENHILLS,VHB719*CFSRES: MFS Victor Response
1908073 11:04:34 12-01-08 MFS: INC # 31 - 12/01/08 11:04,RESPOND RCR,WAGGON RD,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 303 M 11 ,,CAR VS BUS NEAR GREENHILLS,STH029*CFSRES: SES South Coast Response
Thats a fair distance for Mt Compass, about 25kms to that scene, considering it's only about 4km for MFS, and 8km for SES. And Goolwa is probably closer than Compass as well
well at least the correct resources were responded without too much delay though.
it reccon it would depend on traffic from compass or goolwa
Quote from: Morgan on January 12, 2008, 05:27:55 AM
Quotenot unusual anymore
the RFDS has implemented a policy in which they refuse to fly any patients to the city from the riverland, yorke Peninsula and the southern end of the mid-north anymore! wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick and choose your work and defer it onto another agency?!!
as a nursing student who has completed attachment days with both adelaide and port augusta RFDS bases i would suggest that unless it is a retrieval (not all rfds jobs are) that by the time you factor in the 45 minutes it takes them to get airborne after recieveing call combined with flying time.......it may actually be quicker to drive them into town from yorke peninsula. (ps: wallaroo now has 5 ATS officer's)
I can see your point, but considering that SAAS is struggling with it's current workload in metro - it's hardly smart to send a metro resource out on a country transfer.
whilst some of these cases are RV's - there are a large number of known and documented cases where a crew drives to Renmark or Berri from metro and return - thus blowing your theory of it being faster out of the water.
PS: thank you morgan, for informing me of Wallaroo RMTS - which started 4 years ago!
PPS: Yes - I'm taking the piss!! :evil:
Quote from: bittenyakka on January 12, 2008, 04:17:06 PM
it reccon it would depend on traffic from compass or goolwa
18km from Goolwa to Victor (dead flat all the way)
25km from Compass to Victor (quite hilly)
But anywho Hindmarsh Valley and the mets lads would have been there pretty quick and had it over in a jiffy.
And definatly not suggesting we should have been called either. :wink: In case anyone was thinking that. :-)
lol theres a point where its a cluttered scene...pretty close to it me thinks...
MFS: INC # 73 - 12/01/08 23:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CEDUNA CFS,CEDUNA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,END OF JETTY AT FORESHORE HOTEL ON FIRE,CEDU19*CFSRES: CFS Ceduna Response
MFS: CFSRES CEDUNA MORE CREW REQUIRED, SECOND APPLIANCE IS NEEDED ON SCENE 12/01/2008 11:32:49 PM CFS Ceduna Response :? :?
Ceduna's 2nd Alarm brigade's are a fair distance away, and they actually serve a large area as "the BA/RCR/Hazmat Brigade" in the region.
So there 2nd Appliance rolling is quite vital i assume.
Welcome to remote area firefighting......Not sure if they have the man power but if they did may be time for a 3 pump at ceduna???
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:
aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????
Quote from: rescue5271 on January 13, 2008, 05:41:18 AM
Welcome to remote area firefighting......Not sure if they have the man power but if they did may be time for a 3 pump at ceduna???
Obviously not if they have to page out for a 2nd crew?
Quote from: mack on January 13, 2008, 06:37:56 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:
aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????
MFS maybe re-writing the response areas already. Or just our magnificent CRD system working efficiently again.
Quote from: safireservice2009 on January 13, 2008, 08:45:14 AM
Quote from: mack on January 13, 2008, 06:37:56 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:
aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????
MFS maybe re-writing the response areas already. Or just our magnificent CRD system working efficiently again.
That is a very odd response indeed, considering Willunga & Sellicks are closer to that area than M/Vale & Christies and Seaford. Nice way for the guys at MV to be woken up, an incorrect page at 8am Sunday morning:? : :-(
Quote from: jasec on January 13, 2008, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: safireservice2009 on January 13, 2008, 08:45:14 AM
Quote from: mack on January 13, 2008, 06:37:56 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:
aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????
MFS maybe re-writing the response areas already. Or just our magnificent CRD system working efficiently again.
That is a very odd response indeed, considering Willunga & Sellicks are closer to that area than M/Vale & Christies and Seaford. Nice way for the guys at MV to be woken up, an incorrect page at 8am Sunday morning:? : :-(
OMG well there is going to be MFS at Aldinga eventually so maybe Christie Downs are getting an area familiarisation :-P
Should have been Aldinga,Sellicks,Willunga.
Then again not as bad as paging Stirling to go to a RCR job 70kms north of Port Augusta....instead of Stirling North :oops:
It would be very nice to see the Prescribed plans existing in Bom's for recommended responses. Brigades could point out 'No thats incorrect'.
At Least...when something goes wrong...CORRECT IT permanantly.
Quote from: Zippy on January 13, 2008, 10:34:57 AM
It would be very nice to see the Prescribed plans existing in Bom's for recommended responses. Brigades could point out 'No thats incorrect'.
At Least...when something goes wrong...CORRECT IT permanantly.
Been there, tried that. We got a copy of ours, worked out what needed to be changed and guess what? Nothing happened. Stiil chasing it now.
Quote from: mack on January 13, 2008, 06:37:56 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:
aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????
I wonder if the MFS will be asking for their $50 :?
Yeh how about we just say...how about we edit the system for you...personally perform the changes FREE of CHARGE :roll:
Are you sure you want to do it for free you'll be there a while Zippy
Quote from: SA Firey on January 13, 2008, 10:52:28 AM
Are you sure you want to do it for free you'll be there a while Zippy
At least it WILL get done!
hahahaha...at least something will get done other than sitting on this forum in my free time :P
1908971 10:32:39 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 28 - 13/01/08 10:32,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,LESS THAN 1 KM TOWARD MCLAREN FLAT,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Kangarilla Response
1909048 10:32:35 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 28 - 13/01/08 10:32,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,LESS THAN 1 KM TOWARD MCLAREN FLAT,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Blackwood Response
1908910 10:32:24 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 28 - 13/01/08 10:32,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,LESS THAN 1 KM TOWARD MCLAREN FLAT,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Meadows Response
1924962 10:30:00 13-01-08 N81 Cat2 Easton Rd, Clarendon 178 J9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1925572 10:29:56 13-01-08 N81 Cat2 Easton Rd, Clarendon 178 J9 SAAS Noarlunga
1908969 10:28:24 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 27 - 13/01/08 10:27,RESPOND RCR,EASTON RD,CLARENDON, MAP 178 J 9 ,,VEHICLE ROLLOVER POSSIBLE FIRE,MDWS19 BKWD19 CLDN00*CFSRES: CFS Clarendon Response
1909048 10:28:18 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 27 - 13/01/08 10:27,RESPOND RCR,EASTON RD,CLARENDON, MAP 178 J 9 ,,VEHICLE ROLLOVER POSSIBLE FIRE,MDWS19 BKWD19 CLDN00*CFSRES: CFS Blackwood Response
1908910 10:28:07 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 27 - 13/01/08 10:27,RESPOND RCR,EASTON RD,CLARENDON, MAP 178 J 9 ,,VEHICLE ROLLOVER POSSIBLE FIRE,MDWS19 BKWD19 CLDN00*CFSRES: CFS Meadows Response
1929698 10:27:41 13-01-08 MV71 Cat2 Kangarilla Rd, Kangarilla SAAS McLaren Vale
Interesting, wonder if its the same job or just a bad case of timing as both rescue resources have been responded to both jobs, also interesting to see the SAAS pages.
two separate jobs...with a heap of confusion in the first 10 mins ive been told.
Quote from: jasec on January 13, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
Interesting, wonder if its the same job or just a bad case of timing as both rescue resources have been responded to both jobs, also interesting to see the SAAS pages.
i wondered that for a moment also, but the first one is a road north of clarendon, where as the second is the main drag, south of kangarilla... very differant locations. Pretty handy having Meadows on that dual response actually... got the appropriate resources going for both (just divert a rescue resource), otherwise ya would have only had Meadows on the road to begin with.
BURNSIDE TWO FOUR WILL BE OFFLINE UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK - REAR DIFF IS TOTALLY DESTROYED & WAS ABOUT TO LET GO IN A BIG WAY - PARTS ARE BEING SOURCED AT THE MOMENT - FROM DAVID
Another KI casualty....I reckon they should give you a new one Dave 8-)
Burnside 24 was off line recently for repairs after KI then i think was offline again for something else, went back online in the last few days and broken again makes you wonder whats going on with these trucks
our 24 has had a broken rear axle and just replaced the clutch all during this season.
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 15, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
...makes you wonder whats going on with these trucks
Simple really. Busy brigades that actually use their appliances are stuck with one and two decade old junk heaps that are falling apart and held together by masking tape and goodwill, whereas brigades that do a handful of jobs a year get the first trucks out of the factories...
10:30:52 17-01-08 PLS PH NICOLE ELY <number removed> OR <number removed> FROM ABC TV NEWS RE FIRE TOWERS IN ADELAIDE HILLS
08:30:19 17-01-08 CFS: BOMBER 583 DEPLOYED TO BUNBURY WA FOR INTERSTATE SUPPORT TO SW-WA. BOMBER 558 BEING ACTIVATED AS BACK UP AIRCRAFT AT WOODSIDE - SARC ELLIS.
Quote from: SA Firey on January 17, 2008, 09:16:09 AM
10:30:52 17-01-08 PLS PH NICOLE ELY <number removed> OR <number removed> FROM ABC TV NEWS RE FIRE TOWERS IN ADELAIDE HILLS
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/17/2140461.htm
all crew the skyjet has landed cheers the boss
-= MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse =-
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:03,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CNR ALMA RD. TRUCK VS PEDESTRIAN.,RIVN19 TARL00*CFSRES: CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:21,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,SAD029*CFSRES: SES Saddleworth
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,KAP029*CFSRES: SES North Region
just a few mistakes in the paging but oh well
my question is what was riverton doing responding to a VA on our area the job was a motorbike v truck
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 17, 2008, 04:39:28 PM
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:03,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CNR ALMA RD. TRUCK VS PEDESTRIAN.,RIVN19 TARL00*CFSRES: CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:21,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,SAD029*CFSRES: SES Saddleworth
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,KAP029*CFSRES: SES North Region
just a few mistakes in the paging but oh well
my question is what was riverton doing responding to a VA on our area the job was a motorbike v truck
the tarlee area has all ways been riverton and hamley area for rcr kapunda's area stops just be for quarry on the hill plus being an rcr job who cares which area it is as long as you get the job done
every other road crash that has been in the tarlee area for the last 2 years at least has been ours we have only seen riverton or hamley at one other crash in the area ant that was at linwood
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 18, 2008, 01:25:59 PM
every other road crash that has been in the tarlee area for the last 2 years at least has been ours we have only seen riverton or hamley at one other crash in the area ant that was at linwood
i think you need to check your facts more carefly riverton & hamley has responed to more rcr in tarlee area than kapunda ses has and i konw that for a fact
MFS: INC # 34 - 18/01/08 12:27,RESPOND Assist Resident,8 MCDONALD ST,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAT STUCK IN A TREE FOR 3 HOURS ACROSS FROM FREW PARK,MTG701
"mew....mew"
"here kitty kitty kitty!"
64 on straight jet me thinks.... :-D
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 18, 2008, 01:25:59 PM
every other road crash that has been in the tarlee area for the last 2 years at least has been ours we have only seen riverton or hamley at one other crash in the area ant that was at linwood
How do you know if you weren't called? ;) Are you sure you didn't mean "Every Road crash that we were called to has been ours..."
CFS_Firey thanks sorry i did mean every one we have been called to which has been to many in that area
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 17, 2008, 04:39:28 PM
just a few mistakes in the paging but oh well
my question is what was riverton doing responding to a VA on our area the job was a motorbike v truck
The RCR resource directory lists for Tarlee
1st rescue- Rivereton CFS
2nd rescue- Hamley Bridge CFS
No mention of SES
So it doesnt look like as many mistakes in the paging as you think
Quote
MFS: INC # 34 - 18/01/08 12:27,RESPOND Assist Resident,8 MCDONALD ST,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAT STUCK IN A TREE FOR 3 HOURS ACROSS FROM FREW PARK,MTG701
"mew....mew"
"here kitty kitty kitty!"
64 on straight jet me thinks....
Maybe use the roof monitor of your Scania for the ultimate wet pussy launching contest, Blue!!
1909105 17:30:54 21-01-08 ANGN: Burnover Wednesday night, If not done you will be unable to attend Grass Fires, Also training wil be on Truro 34 .From Lt 1 1/21/2008 5:30:21 PM CFS Angaston Info :? thought this was meant to be done before the fire season??
15:05:25 22-01-08 HAVE CONFIRMED FROM REGION 3 CAMBRAI IS NO LONGER RCR OR BA BRIGADE DUE TO LACK OF TRAINED MEMBERS-MT PLEASANT AND MANNUM TO RESPOND IN CAMBRAI RESPONSE AREA-FROM JASON CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
its a bit sad when it comes to this
Last time I called Cambrai to a job they turned up in shorts and a t shirt to a grass fire...only one person had his full PPE. :-o
Whats wrong with shorts and a T Shirt??? only joking yes its sad when this happens but the truth is NO ONE is joining the service in some of these area's as people are leaveing the land or moving to the bigger city's for work..It will only get worse before it gets better...Now where did I put that new RCR chopper with all that remote area gear.......
MFS: INC # 40 - 23/01/08 13:09,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MILLBROOK RD,INGLEWOOD, MAP 74 M 13 ,,2 CARS INVOLVED NO INJURIES - FROM POLICE MESS NO 499,HERM00 TTGY19*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 43 - 23/01/08 13:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,YATALA VALE RD,YATALA VALE, MAP 73 C 16 ,,SCRUB FIRE STARTED BY A QUAD BIKE,TTGY19 SAIR55 GGV311*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 44 - 23/01/08 13:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GUNDA RD,BANKSIA PARK, MAP 85 K 5 ,,IN THE CREEK,TTGY19 SAIR55 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
Would have been a bit frantic lucky they have 3 trucks, dunno how easily they can man them all on demand tho.....
with the comment about t shirt and shorts i was looking at the pics on the compton website and there is a pic of a firey doing fire cover at a va with sneakers and turn out gear gpes to show nobody is perfect
1st try
08:40:20 23-01-08 SEAF MRPH RESPOND FIRE ALARM ELDERCARE DUAL RESP, CNR SEAFORD RD & GRAND BOULEVARD, SEAFORD *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 23/01/2008 08:38:56 CFS Morphett Vale Info
2nd try
08:43:48 23-01-08 SEAF MRPH RESPOND FIRE ALARM ELDERCARE DUAL RESP, CNR SEAFORD RD & GRAND BOULEVARD, SEAFORD *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 23/01/2008 08:42:28 CFS Seaford Info
3rd time lucky!!!!
08:44:37 23-01-08 MFS: INC # 26 - 23/01/08 08:44,RESPOND To,SEAFORD RD,SEAFORD, MAP 195 F 14 ,,RESPOND WITH CFS TO FIRE ALARM AT ELDERCARE CNR GRAND BOULEVARD,SEAF00 CDN431 MRPH00 CDN439*CFSRES: CFS Seaford Response
gave morphett vale a 4min head start ;)
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 23, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
with the comment about t shirt and shorts i was looking at the pics on the compton website and there is a pic of a firey doing fire cover at a va with sneakers and turn out gear gpes to show nobody is perfect
Special issue sneakers, gas tight, splash proof, rated to 1000degC :-)
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 23, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
with the comment about t shirt and shorts i was looking at the pics on the compton website and there is a pic of a firey doing fire cover at a va with sneakers and turn out gear gpes to show nobody is perfect
Wish i knew that at the time.....that photo is bit over 2 years old and first time ive noticed that.
Incorrect PPE is a pet hate of mine!
18:56:45 23-01-08 REPLACEMENT RURAL APPLIANCE IN THE STATION WHILE 24 IS BEING REPAIRED - CALL SIGN IS ,BURNSIDE 34, DRIVERS AND CREWS PLEASE FAMILIARISE YOURSELF WITH BASIC RURAL STOWAGE PLUS 2BAZ CFS Burnside Info
mmmm Must be the one of the many old 34 that is floating around,i am sure they would have gear to put on it.......
On the issue of correct PPE I hear that Photoshop works wonders with making members seem to be wearing gloves and other items (spot the pic of the photoshopped volly in the volunteer mag...)
nah just kidding for those who went and grabbed it. lol. but im sure it has been done
Quotegave morphett vale a 4min head start
Actually both the WFAM pages went to Seaford and Morphett Vale, it's just a pity that they haven't actually properly tested or commissioned that alarm yet - if they had they would have found that the response pager messages were ending up on our brigade info address instead of the brigade response one. That would explain why the Group Officers had no idea what was going on until the page from Adelaide Fire came out for 431 and 439. I believe the situation is soon to be rectified.
Quote from: rescue5271 on January 23, 2008, 07:20:31 PM
mmmm Must be the one of the many old 34 that is floating around,i am sure they would have gear to put on it.......
Could possibly be the one Blackwood had?
PLS PH COCKO ON xxxxxxxxx IF AVAILABLE TO DECOMMISSION BLACKWOOD 34 ASAP
Quote from: Crownie24 on January 23, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
MFS: INC # 40 - 23/01/08 13:09,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MILLBROOK RD,INGLEWOOD, MAP 74 M 13 ,,2 CARS INVOLVED NO INJURIES - FROM POLICE MESS NO 499,HERM00 TTGY19*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 43 - 23/01/08 13:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,YATALA VALE RD,YATALA VALE, MAP 73 C 16 ,,SCRUB FIRE STARTED BY A QUAD BIKE,TTGY19 SAIR55 GGV311*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 44 - 23/01/08 13:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GUNDA RD,BANKSIA PARK, MAP 85 K 5 ,,IN THE CREEK,TTGY19 SAIR55 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
Would have been a bit frantic lucky they have 3 trucks, dunno how easily they can man them all on demand tho.....
I was down the road yesterday from their station, it took them alittle while to get them out but they did and all looked fully crewed.
19:58:33 24-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC084 24/01/08 19:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MAIN NORTH RD,ELIZABETH DOWNS MAP 52 A 12 TG182,ADEL BOUND SOUTH OF ULEY RD ON LHS,SAIR55 ELZ331
Is it just today that this has started happenning??
18:58:24 24-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC080 24/01/08 18:57,RESPOND Private Alarm,RAMCO ,RAMCO MAP 0 0 0 TG205,GOLDEN HEIGHTS PUMPING STATION,WAIK19
19:22:57 24-01-08 BA178 Cat2 Ramco Rd, Waikerie FIRE
Unfortunately some people dont take these alarms seriously and say that alarms arent real calls. Well this one was, 2 people affected by smoke.
1918604 00:13:02 27-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC002 27/01/08 00:12,RESPOND To,PORT LINCOLN MFS,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,FUEL FIRE W/WORTHS + PETROL,PLI549 MFS: Port Lincoln
Fun......
07:22:05 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, NATIONAL RAIL REST HOUSE, RAILWAY PDE, PORTAUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:22:01 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, BIG W, 5 EL ELAMEIN ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:56 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION STACK, HOSPITAL RD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:52 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
Where these just testings? or did the Port Augusta crew have four separate calls within 13 seconds?
I do agree, either that...or they are notoriously faulty.
That particular capcode was not the port augusta response one though.
1918593 17:59:52 26-01-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: STN No 51 1800 HOUR PAGER TEST, PORT AUGUSTA FIRE STATION MFS Pt Augusta Response
1918602 07:21:52 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA
Quote from: Footy on January 27, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
07:22:05 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, NATIONAL RAIL REST HOUSE, RAILWAY PDE, PORTAUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:22:01 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, BIG W, 5 EL ELAMEIN ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:56 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION STACK, HOSPITAL RD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:52 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
Where these just testings? or did the Port Augusta crew have four separate calls within 13 seconds?
on surface value, there all "no carrier" alarms... perhaps someone cut the line that connects them.
i know that a new hardware store has been "off lined" due to 6 or 8 no carrier alarms over the course of a weekend.
Hopefully there is a secondary alarm system that they are falling back on during this time??
If the sprinkler head was knocked off causing water flow through the system wouldn't this normally be a primary alarm??
Yes a sprinkler activation would be a primary alarm. A no carrier is a fault in the link from the premises to the MFS. Or a fault at either end.
Footy if its the hardware shop I think,it has a number of back up alarms....
02:24:22 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, NATIONAL RAIL REST HOUSE, RAILWAY PDE, PORTAUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
02:24:18 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, BIG W, 5 EL ELAMEIN ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
02:24:13 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION STACK, HOSPITAL RD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
02:24:07 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
Same thing again? Is there anyone from up there that can explain?
09:40:54 28-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:40,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,SMOKE FROM WALLS GARAGE,BUR561 BRRA00 CFS Burra Response
09:49:41 28-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:49,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,WALLS GARAGE,BRRA00 CFS Burra Response
09:51:39 28-01-08 MFS: URGMSG BURRA RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, 7MARKET ST, WALLS GARAGE 28/01/2008 9:51:20 AM CFS Burra Response
Do you think Burra may have got the idea?
too right there mate, a single CFSRES then a URGMSG should be enough...a proper default didnt occur.
We all know who *doesnt* these out of character actions ;).
Quote from: Footy on January 27, 2008, 04:35:53 PM
i know that a new hardware store has been "off lined" due to 6 or 8 no carrier alarms over the course of a weekend.
Hopefully there is a secondary alarm system that they are falling back on during this time??
a no carrier means the alarm system is offline.... no connection to the service provider (MFS??) and therefore no information from the premises to the fire service.... fall back would be 000.
1908918 15:21:43 28-01-08 MdwsInfo: Today is Austrian National Holiday, no training, unless you are wearing leather pants and can dance while slapping knees. That is all. Love & Kisses, Broady. CFS Meadows Info
Austrian :? :wink: :-D
what time the knee slapping :wink:
Quote from: CFS_Firey on January 28, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
09:40:54 28-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:40,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,SMOKE FROM WALLS GARAGE,BUR561 BRRA00 CFS Burra Response
09:49:41 28-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:49,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,WALLS GARAGE,BRRA00 CFS Burra Response
09:51:39 28-01-08 MFS: URGMSG BURRA RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, 7MARKET ST, WALLS GARAGE 28/01/2008 9:51:20 AM CFS Burra Response
Do you think Burra may have got the idea?
I am guessing they didn't !!!!
Who knows maybe they asked for another page, then got no crew so wanted the siren set off, who knows, wasn't there.......
1919118 21:14:50 29-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC069 29/01/08 21:14,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,WAROOKA CFS,WAROOKA MAP 0 0 0 TG103,RONALD ROSE PROPERTY, 3RD PADDOCK,SAIR55 WARK00 MRNO00 CFS: Warooka
There is no rest for the Warooka Boys and Girls....It seems.
MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Woodside Response
MFS: CFSRES FURTHER CALLS ADVISE THIS HAS NOW STARTED A GRASS FIRE CFS Woodside Response
Last I knew Onkaparinga Group was TG140, obviously have'nt fixed the filtered from the other day.TG100 is Region 2 boys :-P
hehe yep, not the only time its happened...lets wait and see what the Talkgroup is for Lobethal, Lenswood and Balhannah ;)
does it matter MFS assign a tg to an incident so be it if it is 100. for all i care want the first job have TG 1 the 2nd job have tg 2 etc and when inc no 1 is finished then tg 1 can be re assigned.
Yes bittenyakka it matters,the GRN talkgroups have been assigned for several years now and worked well having dedicated primary and secondary talkgroups for each group.
Now that AF have finally got around to following SOP10.14 and should be putting the primary response brigades talkgroup on the page ,it will help brigades such as your own that respond with other groups to help determine who is primary to each response.
The new funding arrangements that have been mooted will be very much influenced by the amount of primary calls each brigade does each year, unfortunately this looks to be the way of the future,tell me if I'm wrong,my thoughts only.
Cheers Jaff
Oh so it means we will have a referee in determining who is primary response rather than hoping the other brigade knows their boundary's
Or having a captain who thinks he is boss at every call?
and footy kicks a goal!
Quote from: Zippy on January 30, 2008, 08:08:35 AM
hehe yep, not the only time its happened...lets wait and see what the Talkgroup is for Lobethal, Lenswood and Balhannah ;)
OK you asked :-P
00:09:58 30-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response
1909020 00:09:56 30-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Lobethal Response
1909018 00:09:48 30-01-08 ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response
1909022 00:09:47 30-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Woodside Response
QuoteOr having a captain who thinks he is boss at every call?
pretty certain the captain IS the boss :? or maybe it's the cadet................ :roll:
On face value you are probably right. that post looked awfully like i was saying captain shouldnt be in charge. Let me clarify. A captain from a brigade that is consistently second or third on scene should not try and assume responsibility over the incident and assume that because they are there, everyone else should bow down before them.
I hope this puts the statment in context. Chain of Command is important, Captains recognising and following that chain at a multi brigade/agency incident is also important...
Quote from: jaff on January 30, 2008, 09:24:29 AM
Yes bittenyakka it matters,the GRN talkgroups have been assigned for several years now and worked well having dedicated primary and secondary talkgroups for each group.
add "in region 1" to the end of that (as only region 1 have 2 TGs per group).
it doesn't really matter whether we have fixed TGs assigned to groups or use a rotating first-available system of allocation, except that CFS has chosen the first way so that is how we do it.
the reason why it is particularly a problem in this case though is that the pager message has a region 2 TG for a job in region 1, and apart from a few exceptions (and a bit of overlap) regional TGs only work within the region they are allocated to. Anyway this error in this case is being corrected.
09:48:52 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Ceduna Group Officers Response
1919439 09:48:50 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Nunjikompita Response
Now that makes an interesting drive to a job so far away :-o
Quote from: SA Firey on January 31, 2008, 11:04:53 AM
09:48:52 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Ceduna Group Officers Response
1919439 09:48:50 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Nunjikompita Response
Now that makes an interesting drive to a job so far away :-o
The tag associated with that page - listed as Nunji Response, is incorrect...it was actually Eucla who were paged...even further to travel!! :-D
And Ceduna Group no longer exist...name changed to "Western Eyre Group " a few months ago...
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on January 31, 2008, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: SA Firey on January 31, 2008, 11:04:53 AM
09:48:52 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Ceduna Group Officers Response
1919439 09:48:50 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Nunjikompita Response
Now that makes an interesting drive to a job so far away :-o
The tag associated with that page - listed as Nunji Response, is incorrect...it was actually Eucla who were paged...even further to travel!! :-D
And Ceduna Group no longer exist...name changed to "Western Eyre Group " a few months ago...
Pip
I knew it was Eucla, and you and I know the group name has changed but obviously others dont :wink:
far west thirty-four eh?
Not sure of what you mean there Mack.... Far West brigade is based at Nundroo, and has a 34... different brigade to both Eucla & Nunji..
Interesting though...I though Eucla had gone from CFS, and back to FESA (since they are actually based on the WA side of the border.......! )
Pip
aahh i must just be thinking of the furthest west fire resources we have in SA, Eucla are not CFS, as you said Pip.
MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC050 31/01/08 16:31,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,ESPLANADE ,PORT WILLUNGA MAP 223 F 4 TG132,ADJ STAR OF GREECE RESTAURANT,STAR OF,ALDB19 CFS Aldinga Response
MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC050 31/01/08 16:38,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,ESPLANADE ,PORT WILLUNGA MAP 223 F 4,NEAR STAR OF GREECE,NAD020 SES Northern Districts Response?
hmm maybe a lot of confusions happenin in Adel fire...not using full names might be havings its toll.
NAD020 and NOA029 too similar?
the computer shows best response for the area so there could be a fault with the information and possible operator interference
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on January 31, 2008, 03:19:19 PM
the computer shows best response for the area so there could be a fault with the information and possible operator interference
the computer shows the reccomended, or preset, response... then any additional resources have to be entered in.
1909800 22:48:54 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 02/02/08 22:48,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,91 CHILDERS ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 H 4 TG182,BACKYARD,SAIR55 ADL202 - State Airdesk
1909800 22:52:35 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 02/02/08 22:52,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,93 GOVER ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 M 4 TG182,IN BET GOVER AND CHILDERS,SAIR55 ADL201 - State Airdesk
1909800 22:54:09 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 02/02/08 22:53,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,93 GOVER ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 M 4 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 - State Airdesk
Type: Grass Fire Became 1st Alarm Structure then went 2nd Alarm
Location: Between 91 Childers st & Gover st, North Adelaide
Appliances: 201, 203, 202, 206, 371
Here is one for you all-
1919303 23:00:56 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Chaffey Group Officers Response
1919310 23:00:54 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Paringa Response
Incorrect resourse
1928012 23:21:43 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES East Region
1915574 23:21:41 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES Renmark Response
Correct response - Why? simple this unit has specially modified ladders and litters to get casualities off houseboats. Pity it took 20 minutes :-(
I'm not sure why non rescue teams are sent to these jobs, if was a simple pickup and carry SAAS wouldn't ask for help would they?
Similiar to the South Coast fatality a couple of weeks ago.
At least this time something may be done as our boss is also a vollie at Paringa, so finally the message may get through heres hoping.
Have a good night & cheers
Quote from: chook on February 02, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
Here is one for you all-
1919303 23:00:56 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Chaffey Group Officers Response
1919310 23:00:54 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Paringa Response
Incorrect resourse
1928012 23:21:43 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES East Region
1915574 23:21:41 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES Renmark Response
Correct response - Why? simple this unit has specially modified ladders and litters to get casualities off houseboats. Pity it took 20 minutes :-(
I'm not sure why non rescue teams are sent to these jobs, if was a simple pickup and carry SAAS wouldn't ask for help would they?
Similiar to the South Coast fatality a couple of weeks ago.
At least this time something may be done as our boss is also a vollie at Paringa, so finally the message may get through heres hoping.
Have a good night & cheers
I was listening to the scanner SAAS wanted the rescue boat....
Edit: Next time I'll read the quote I am a dumb donkey....
Yep should have been called 20 minutes earlier, but as I said I'm sure it will be all soughted.
I hope Renmark was all present & correct though with the boss there in his firemans hat :-D.
cheers
Well Chook was listening to scanner SAAS first asked for Paringa to attend as they have assisted done so before,on other occasions then after awhile it changed to they requested a boat. They where just doing as asked by SAAS.
Yep understand all of that - it seems that some re-education is required :wink:
As I have said previously, I'm sure it will be soughted out onne way or another.
cheers
Quote from: chook on February 02, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
I'm not sure why non rescue teams are sent to these jobs, if was a simple pickup and carry SAAS wouldn't ask for help would they?
The majority of Assist SAAS jobs i have been called to are just that, "a simple pick-up and carry" usually as the SAAS crew of 2 required another set of hands or 2. Having spoken to a few ambo's about it they generally say they ask for "firies" if they need a help with a lift. Which poses an interesting question, if a service requests a specific resource, eg. Firies, should the Comms guys be second guessing that??
from a saas point of view i have always been told that in our area SES would be responding to assist with lifts etc unless we need to have fire there for a reason its ok we have three different kinds of trucks to pick from one red two white with yellow and three white with orange.
Comms can't go on every local arrangement, 9 times out of 10 they want man power or a stokes, which a number of CFS and MFS have. SAAS are used to the fact that most SES take to long, and most towns have a fire service in them. Saw a classic example the other day at Waterfall Gully, took SES well over 25 mins on the bell to get to the scene, when you have a fire appliance with stokes and rope equipment just down the street, and they call another SES for backup, so it makes you wonder doesn't it. The fire service always get accused of playing games, but it seems that isn't the case !
My volly station gets several calls a year for patient lifts, 99% of the time they just want man power, and the other 1% they want a stokes. They want it then and their, they don't want to wait, someone is having a heart attack etc, they want the nearest resource !
But having said that, if SES are nearest and have quick turn outs, then so be it.
we work very close with our local SES (talk form SAAS view again)
we also what at least one full crew not one in a red truck and two in a white truck in our SES unit only 5 members live out side the town and out of them only two are to far away to respond for P1 P2 calls with a tun out time of less the 8mins at the same time if not soon after saas (when paged at the same time)
fair call, thanks for that info.
cheers
well, here we go guys...heres what the NSW Rural fire service get for pager messages:
"04 February 2008 11:17:48 TOMKI BRIGADE PLEASE RESPOND TO MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT AT BRUXNER HWY 2 KM FROM CASINO"
RFS Tomki (Richmond Valley)
Basically the same as what SHQ used to put using airsource.
yeh the good old days :)
SHQ: *CFSRES <BRIGADE NAMES> RESPOND <INCIDENT TYPE>, <INCIDENT LOCATION>, <FUTHER INFO>; <DATE/TIME>;
:cry:
it could be worse have you seen the CFA paging system.........
I have, im happy to say i like there's the most in Australia.
They can input the exact words they hear over the phone from the 000 call..."oh theres a fire on a powerpole, think its a transformer"...
ALERT F080200815 BUNI4 NOSTC3 POWERPOLE FIRE CNR KILDERKIN AV/GEAR AV MOUNT HELEN SVC 6520 G4 (561311) SEBA
ALERT <INCIDENT NO> <UNSURE> <SHORT INCIDENT TYPE> <DEFINED INCIDENT TYPE> <LOCATION INC Grid reference> <BRIGADES>
... and this is a huge change from SACFS paging how?
The old way was the best and "if it's not broke don't fix it" doesn't go down well with the CFS/MFS head honchos, give it 2 years they'll change it again, and the GRN will get phased out in 3....
01:13:41 07-02-08 RIVN RESPOND FIRE ALARM RIVERTON DSM HOSPITAL, 23 MOORHOUSE TERRACE, RIVERTON *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 07/02/2008 01:12:00 CFS Mount Barker Response
01:14:20 07-02-08 MFS: respond fixed alarm riverton hospital, contact mfs comms 07/02/2008 1:14:09 AM CFS Riverton Response
01:15:09 07-02-08 MFS: stop for riverton hospital. riverton have been responded. 07/02/2008 1:14:57 AM CFS Mount Barker Response
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 07, 2008, 08:00:07 AM
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.
strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"
Quote from: mack on February 07, 2008, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 07, 2008, 08:00:07 AM
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.
strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"
that "testing" is sometimes very superficial and cursory, I reckon for all the alarms done in my group area about 75% of them had some error/mistake on initial install (fortunately most were quickly noticed by the group/brigade and fixed).
Not nice for the poor vollies at Littlehampton and Mt Barker...
Computers do strange things at times. We got the correct pages out as soon as we realised the error.
Quote from: Darius on February 07, 2008, 08:36:09 AM
Quote from: mack on February 07, 2008, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 07, 2008, 08:00:07 AM
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.
strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"
that "testing" is sometimes very superficial and cursory, I reckon for all the alarms done in my group area about 75% of them had some error/mistake on initial install (fortunately most were quickly noticed by the group/brigade and fixed).
mmmm.... i thought the install and programming was done, and then tested, with the brigade captain or another member acknowledging that it went to the correct adress, before the alarm went live.
Quote from: mack on February 07, 2008, 08:54:19 AM
mmmm.... i thought the install and programming was done, and then tested, with the brigade captain or another member acknowledging that it went to the correct adress, before the alarm went live.
mostly it is, and that's where the errors I mentioned were spotted, while the contractor was still on site so could fix it straight away. However there was one in our group that was changed over without the group being notified so obviously the plan is not followed all the time.
You would hope they were tested before going live wouldn't you, but the one that went in to a nursing home down our way recently wasn't. Consequently the only way we knew it was active was when we got responded to a call there.
Maybe if it had of been tested someone would have picked up that the messages where going to the wrong address. As far as I know it still hasn't been fixed, we still haven't had any test messages from them - and that was over 2 weeks ago now.
Hmmm, great error checking there.
19:22:18 08-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 08/02/08 19:21,RESPOND ALARM 11/060,UNI HOUSE,STUDENT ACCOMMODATION,160 RUNDLE MALL,ADELAIDE MAP 119 E 1 TG182,FIP ADJ TO LIFTS IN FOYER,2ND ALARM. TG155,ADL203 PPT371 AD2090 ADL206 41 BPK451 MFS Car 41
Back to 1st Alarm.
Another one
1919082 20:06:50 08-02-08 MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM B CLASS STRUCTURE ...ADJAC WINSOR HOTEL N/E RD, WINSOR GDNS 08/02/2008 8:06:38 PM MFS FCI 1
1926877 21:14:33 08-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/02/08 21:13,RESPOND Private Alarm,5 ARRAS CT,PARALOWIE MAP 60 N 14 TG182,ALARM OPERATING,SMELL OF SMOKE,SAL321 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1919072 21:31:07 08-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/02/08 21:30,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 ARRAS CT,PARALOWIE MAP 60 N 14 TG182,,31 MFS Car 31
1919082 21:40:50 08-02-08 MFS: Another job at 5 Arras ct Paralowie,map 60,N 14, two bedrooms involved,SO Miller332 08/02/2008 9:40:39 PM MFS FCI 1
It never rains but it pours!!!!
58:52 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 CFS Port Macdonnell Group Officers Response
1909304 19:58:50 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 CFS Blackfellows Caves Response
1928012 19:58:41 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 SES East Region
Not sure why SAAS where not paged?? Turned out to be a car fire that then started a grass fire all brigade's in port mac group where paged in the end to attend....
except donovans :-D
Still uncontained but not going anywhere fast. Burnt approx 100m by 20m?
1905686 20:32:43 09-02-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 MFS Mt Gambier Response
At this rate there should be a fire station based at the Mount Gambier jail manned by inmates just like at Cadell :-)
would never work as its normally the prisoners that set the alarm off. :-D
1909800 21:48:33 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 09/02/08 21:46,RESPOND Smoke in Area,6 SWIGGS ST,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 P 4 TG182,TAKE CARE!!,SAIR55 LGS281 - State Airdesk
What? What was the reason behind appending that to the message?
should have sent compton....or the new bwc.....just love alarms at prisons NOT...stirling north get paged each night at the moment only to be stopped called a few mins later..Hope they send them an account for false alarms.....
Quote from: Crownie24 on February 09, 2008, 08:23:24 PM
1909800 21:48:33 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 09/02/08 21:46,RESPOND Smoke in Area,6 SWIGGS ST,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 P 4 TG182,TAKE CARE!!,SAIR55 LGS281 - State Airdesk
What? What was the reason behind appending that to the message?
Could have been anything from a friendly Comms Op who knows the Largs North crew, to issues they have had at the given address previously...
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info
This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?
Quote from: Footy on February 11, 2008, 06:36:29 AM
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info
This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?
They have always done it, keeps the troops informed, and I guess if you don't want to know about it, then don't have your pager on, if you didn't go to the call then clearly your not very interested anyway so you may as well turn your pager off.
Not a bad idea!.. Would save those people who might be leaving work etc, from taking a few extra chances trying to get to a call that had returned 1o minutes prior.
MFS: GROUP INFO: IF ANY BRIGADES RESPOND TO A CAR FIRE WITH A GREEN VK COMMODORE PLEASE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION - GROUP OFFICERS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR FURTHER INFO 11/02/2008 3:03:20 PM CFS Blyth-Snowtown Info
Didnt take long.
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/02/08 15:19,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,AUBURN CFS,AUBURN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CAR FIRE AT PREMISES OF JOHN WILLIAMS O,N GRIMWOOD PARK ROAD.,AUBN00 CFS Auburn Response
Quote from: Footy on February 11, 2008, 06:36:29 AM
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info
This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?
Particularly if you are in a busy brigade, where perhaps one appliance has responded to a call, and another, unrelated, call comes through, it is good to know if the crew at the first is back in station, or still tied up on something
Members can then make a decision as to whether to race down to the station, ready to take out the other truck or not... very frustrating to race to the station, only to find the first truck left the station as the pager message came in, and no second truck is required.... :-(
Within my own brigade, we send out a "returned to station page" - for a couple of reasons.
Generally, for any call, the first appliance is gone in around 6 minutes. If the call is during a weekday, then the next crew are often 30 minutes away (eg have to leave work, and make their way to the station). For some, leaving work early is not an option, but at finish time, they need to decide if they should go straight home, as quickly as they can, ready to assist with the call, or do they wander home, doing their errands on the way.
If the page goes out, to say the crew are back, then the other members know the status of the call.
It also alerts crews to the return of an appliance from a strike team - that is so we know the truck is back, and second, so that anyone else around the place can go the station and assist with cleaning it up / restocking / restowing.
Our "Appliance returned to station" message works well for us
Pip
Quote from: uniden on February 11, 2008, 03:34:23 PM
MFS: GROUP INFO: IF ANY BRIGADES RESPOND TO A CAR FIRE WITH A GREEN VK COMMODORE PLEASE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION - GROUP OFFICERS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR FURTHER INFO 11/02/2008 3:03:20 PM CFS Blyth-Snowtown Info
Didnt take long.
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/02/08 15:19,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,AUBURN CFS,AUBURN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CAR FIRE AT PREMISES OF JOHN WILLIAMS O,N GRIMWOOD PARK ROAD.,AUBN00 CFS Auburn Response
They didn't page the Gilbert Group with that warning, but i'm sure adelaide fire would have notified them as soon as they called on air....
was it related though the page for any car fires attended that was sent to some groups is in relation to a shooting at paskeville today the car was seen leaving in a hurry. thats why some groups were paged.
if they were dumping it in burning it why would they do it there id say they would do it some where out of the way.
Yeah that is bizarre, obviously they had a RV there....
According to ten news the car fire at Auburn was the offending Commodore. See the news for more details.
Yep thats what they said alright. And it certainlt looked like a green VK from the chopper shots. Apparently a bikie thing - oh well.
cheers
ok cool well least they found the car hope they find the owners now
not yet - but hopefully soon.
cheers
thanks for the info pip,
like i said i wasnt taking the piss, i was just honestly interested
being members of smaller brigades, i generally havent had that issue.
Story is running about the shooting on ninemsn.com - News section. - At the moment.
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 12/02/08 10:23,RESPOND Assist Police,ARNO BAY CFS,ARNO BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG009,10 KMS SOUTH OF ARNO BAY -2 PERSONS ONLY,FOR FIRE COVER,ARNO00
Is this not against our SOP I thought you had to have min 4 even if its only Fire cover?
Quote from: backburn on February 12, 2008, 09:15:05 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 12/02/08 10:23,RESPOND Assist Police,ARNO BAY CFS,ARNO BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG009,10 KMS SOUTH OF ARNO BAY -2 PERSONS ONLY,FOR FIRE COVER,ARNO00
Is this not against our SOP I thought you had to have min 4 even if its only Fire cover?
Yes it is Operational Management Guidelines Section 46 Minimum of 4 personnel :wink:
so how do you argue that point when a QAV only has a crew of two??
Quote from: boredmatrix on February 12, 2008, 09:40:24 AM
so how do you argue that point when a QAV only has a crew of two??
Initial response must be minimum 2.2 appliance and a crew of 4, a QAV can respond after the first initial response has been met, or if a brigade with 2 x 14's or QAV also meets the response criteria :wink:
Quote from: backburn on February 12, 2008, 09:15:05 AM
Is this not against our SOP I thought you had to have min 4 even if its only Fire cover?
not an SOP but a guideline, you can respond with less with permission.
Also you are reading too much into a pager message that presumably wasn't sent to you (as is common on this forum), eg. perhaps Arno Bay already had 2 members at the station and asked MFS to just request 2 more people.
Quote from: Darius on February 12, 2008, 11:38:23 AM
not an SOP but a guideline, you can respond with less with permission.
since when?
it used to be three but then it was made four crew and its a must not a guideline i was in a brigade that would send 2 crew to a going fire on a 34 and its hard work to run a job with a driver and one on the back. and to be correct you should have 5 crew 4 on the truck and 1 at station other wise lock the shed and go through Adelaide fire until you get some one on the radio at your station or your group base can open
their having fun in vic..........twice in week?! :-o
taken from the online advertiser:
QuoteAn explosion and fire has caused the evacuation of a busy shopping centre in Sydney's inner west and sent flames high into the air.
The NSW Fire Brigade was called to the Broadway Shopping Centre in Ultimo just after 1:45pm after a high voltage sub-station exploded.
The shopping centre has been evacuated and no injuries have been reported, although at least one person was reportedly stuck in a lift after power to the building failed.
At least eleven fire engines were called to the blaze. The size of the fire is not yet known.
A large crowd has gathered outside the shopping centre which has been barricaded off by police.
Have you seen the fire? Post your comments below.
Eyewitnesses reported flames and smoke shooting from a low air vent at the centre, and smoke billowing from a car park, although the fire appeared to be contained by about 3pm.
A staff member working in one of the shops above the blast told The Daily Telegraph Online flames reached high into the air and smelled of burning plastic.
Mobile phone coverage was also said to be down in the wake of the explosion.
The blast is the second to strike the area in as many weeks, following a separate explosion in a nearby apartment building last week.
A Nando's takeaway chicken shop on Mountain Street was gutted by that explosion, which also forced the evacuation of 1000 people in the early hours of February 4.
The cause is still being investigated but Nando's has blamed a problem with the gas main.
that first explosion that happened in the Wales seemed very similar to the Pirie Street incident that occured in our CBD sometime back...
Morgan read the story since when has Sydney's inner west been in vic
havn't you heard victoria run's australia :roll:
Nice bunch of highly strung people here. So what if Arno Bay only need 2 x more people at the station to crew a truck? They may have special local arrangements about the numbers of crew...
Christ you people blow up deluxe about issues that you see a snippet of.
Half the problem with the CFS is the fact there there are far too many people who follow the book to the letter rather than adapting the 'rules' to the situation. There are so many variables when it comes to firefighting. Can't we just be happy when a job is done professional and to the best of our abilities?
...or do we have to nitpick the living hell out of everything?
Victoria wishes they did
well said numbers....
now we might cut and paste that rant into every other topic on this forum where people have a go at Adelaide Fire/SAAS comms/SAPOL Comms or SAAS crews/MFS Crews/SAPOL crews whenever things don't go to as they "think" they should have!
yeah nice idea broadmatrix not that you havent had your share of rants on here i guess this is a place for people to let of steam about issues no matter how minor i reckon just about every body on this forum has had a spit about someone/something, or servic.
so if you dont want people to have there say close the forum we all know everything has its reasons each station for each service has had to get things set up to suit the way they work at the moment working for the CFS/SES/SAAS isn't always good as we all know and even though we are not paid it still gets stressful MFS are paid im sure they get stressed when things dont work same with SAPOL and Career SAAS let people blow of steam if they dont blow it off they will quit and soetimes its better to write it down show people you dont know that well and walk away.
The value of people having a rant/spit is two fold ,it lets the person vent and god knows we all need to do that sometimes, but it also opens up our own perfect little worlds to criticism, you certainly don't have to agree with it! but it might just make you reflect on the way you do business and possibly find a better way .
Cheers Jaff
Better make that three ways, it is fun to have rant/spit sometimes, you got that you bunch of stupid,filtered, filtered, filtered , filtered tossers :-D :-D
There is nothing wrong with venting if something happens to you, but getting your knickers in a knot because you think that some brigade halfway across the state didn't do something right, or exactly by the book is just silly. Then there is the rampant commcen bashing which achieves nothing...
Thanks Jaff - now I know how to correctly describe myself :-D :-D
cheers
:-D I'll go with the filtered bit but you can keep the tossing to yourself!
I prefer to think of myself and cool calm and collected under strain and the rest of you filters can go and filter yourself :-D :-D :wink:
Actually venting is good for the system, everyone needs someone to be able to do this with and I guess I am lucky as I have someone I can have a grumble with after a job or about an issue and it gets it out of the system. This should be a safe place to have a whinge without getting jumped on.
BUT.. you do always need to remember that just going on what is on the page does not reflect what is actually going on on the ground. I know I have paged for 2 crew members to go to an incident and what you would not have seen was the 3 crew had who were extra from the first truck that left and were available to go on another truck.
It is okay to ask it as a question but not to damn it without having all the information
boom tish....
and the tide comes in again!
yes - I've had rants - I don't deny it! But when topics are based around what one organisation did or didn't do "because that's how I think it should happen...."
...it gets a little tiresome after a while!
and numbers hit the nail on the head again! smart bloke that one!
Hypocritical bunch aren't we?
Taking the piss out of comms for not spelling so well,
I kwouldn't be able to count the number of spelling mistakes i haave made on this forum, and I am not getting a crew dispatched to an emergency so not rushing and have plenty of time to think about it...
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 581 & 584 RESPOND GRASSFIRE COMAUM, 13 DEGREES, 58 KMS FROM GAMBIER AB. INC NO 818860 - DESCRIBED AS HALFWAY BETWEEN PENOLA & NARACOORTE > 13/02/2008 14:11:40
Anyone know anything?
Wattle Range, Naracoorte Group and Several CFA brigades involved with a Plantation fire.
14:51:22 13-02-08 CFS: AIR OPS INFO: BOMBERS 581 & 584 CURRENTLY SUSTAINED BOMBING AT COMAUM, SPOTTER 505 ALSO RESPONDED. FIRE IN EDGE OF PINE PLANTATION - SARC STONE > 13/02/2008 14:51:11 CFS R5 Air Observer
@@ALERT F080202977 CAT4 G&SC1 GRASS & SCRUB FIRE OLD COMAUM RD COMAUM (SA) SVSW 384 D2 (967768) LKOP [LKOP]
R17 - Langkoop
Cheers how did you get the CFA pages?
check your PM's.
excellent...
we needed a new page to get this thread moving again
lol
I think the fire season just woke up....
MFS: *CFSRES INC045 13/02/08 15:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LOBETHAL CFS,LOBETHAL MAP 0 0 0 TG140,WILLOW BANK RD,CHARLSTON,SAIR55 LOBE19 WDSD00 MTOR00
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580 & 582 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, CHARLESTON, 15 DEGREES, 4 KMS FROM WOODSIDE AB. INC NO 818867. < 13/02/2008 3:49:16 PM
no action taken...nah it hasnt...but it is slowly warming up!
Its like winter down south at the moment...Will have to crank the heater soon if it continues to get colder.
Yeah I noticed....spoke too soon oh well I guess it's a good thing that its been nice and quiet! :|
Quote from: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 02:32:41 PM
I think the fire season just woke up....
Or as Colin Thiele so eloquently put it... "The February Dragon is awaking from it's sleep and it is looking for fuel to feed its hunger"
(ok i sorta ad libbed but ya get the point... lol
You gotta make the move up here COMP000 lovely 26 degree days now...
Good old Colin Thiele....36 saturday and sunday up north..
filtered freeezing down here and very windy just waiting for the snow to fall...Naracoorte group sent two appliances to the fire and a CFA strike team came over the border as it was not the far from the border..Did not go as we are house moving....
I think we had ten CFS trucks several from across the border and forestry etc
Quote from: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 06:03:12 PM
Good old Colin Thiele....36 saturday and sunday up north..
That dont sound too good cause Ash Wednesday 2 memorial service is being held on Saturday :|
Errr I didn't think about that.....So long as the wind stays down..
And the people in the Hills have all but forgotten about it too...
Can We start a thread on how we are going to get those people to actually clean up their properties??
I have friends who live near Scotch College and that fire that went through last month got really close to their house and they had no idea how bad it could have been, they didn't even realise how serious it was when leaves that were smouldering were landing on their tennis court...
I'll change my statement, a lot of people certainly wouldnt have forgotten (certainly wasnt meant to sound like tha), some people who were barely alive, might not understand the implications, I have friends near Hahndorf who lost everything, and they are serious about their fire protection, as are a lot of others who lost things in that fire
but the message does need to get to those who don't really remember it
Heard on scanner.
CAT2 1125 South Road, St Mary's fire station
"Works accident, patient injured using angle grinder"
I wonder if it was a FF doing an odd job? Oh the paper work!
MFS: *CFSRES INC028 14/02/08 13:07,RESPOND To,SOUTH RD,ST MARYS MAP 141 N 11 TG182,ASSIST INJURED
PERSON AT ST MARYS FIRE S,TATION,41
MFS: *CFSRES INC044 15/02/08 16:26,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KAPUNDA CFS,KAPUNDA DISTRICT MAP 0 0 0 TG100,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.AT THE FORD,ANGELBY RD.NIL INJURIES.FROM KAPUNDA,CAPTAIN,KAPD00 CFS Kapunda Response
saas responded my radio no rescue responded.
17:51:13 15-02-08 RI81 Cat2 Main North Rd, Tarlee MULTIPLE HAZARDS SAAS Riverton
no fire no rescue car v truck
only 25mins ago
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on February 15, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC044 15/02/08 16:26,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KAPUNDA CFS,KAPUNDA DISTRICT MAP 0 0 0 TG100,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.AT THE FORD,ANGELBY RD.NIL INJURIES.FROM KAPUNDA,CAPTAIN,KAPD00 CFS Kapunda Response
saas responded my radio no rescue responded.
call from Kapunda captain on scene, so no need to send rescue...
Quote from: Jono on February 14, 2008, 11:41:01 AM
Heard on scanner.
CAT2 1125 South Road, St Mary's fire station
"Works accident, patient injured using angle grinder"
I wonder if it was a FF doing an odd job? Oh the paper work!
I went past on way to town it was a private contractor working on the side of the station leanto.
17:51:13 15-02-08 RI81 Cat2 Main North Rd, Tarlee MULTIPLE HAZARDS SAAS Riverton
case canceled as they arrived no idea what was going on there and at almost 35mins after the job was handed out.
11:56:46 16-02-08 BURNSIDE 24 DIFF HAS BEEN REPAIRED -UNFORTUNATELY GEARBOX IS TO BE OVERHAULED WHICH WILL BE STARTED NEXT WEEK -CRAIG CFS Burnside Info
Still reckon they should have given them a new one...oh well the ex Sellicks 34 will have to do for now :-)
so much time and effort...yes SAfirey, do agree with you.
QuoteStill reckon they should have given them a new one...oh well the ex Sellicks 34 will have to do for now
but cum on the CFS can't go and fix everything............then certain ppls in here would nothing left to whinge about...........wouldn't know what to do with themselves :lol:
QuoteSTLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 16/02/2008 20:22:14 CFS Stirling North Response
KNGC, RESPOND FIRE ALARM OZONE, SEAFRONT APARTMENTS, 1-1 COMMERCIAL ST.,, KINGSCOTE *CFSRES:, FIP IN FOYER *WFAM*, 16/02/2008 20:25:47 CFS Kingscote Response
hmm i think its not the Fire Alarm systems in the premises that are faulty so many times im seeing these alarms goin off at the same time...maybe its a Central concentrator failure?
Quote22:21:28 16-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:20,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CARPARK BEHIND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WHITE F,ORD S/WAGON. FROM SAPOL,EUDN19 CFS Eudunda Response
22:44:46 16-02-08 EUDN: *CFSRES: MANUAL TURNOUT RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION 16-02-08 22:44 CFS Eudunda Response
22:45:24 16-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:44,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,BA CREWS REQUIRED FOR STRUCTURE FIRE IN,EUDUNDA, CONTACT GIBERT DGO1 097,RHYN42 TOTH00 RBTN00 SDDL00 CFS Tothill Response
23:08:20 16-02-08 RESPOND TO GRASS FIRE EUDUNDA. ASSIST EUDUNDA. CFS Neales Flat Response
Geez, shows how things can change in a short time..
Quote from: SA Firey on February 16, 2008, 11:22:37 AM
11:56:46 16-02-08 BURNSIDE 24 DIFF HAS BEEN REPAIRED -UNFORTUNATELY GEARBOX IS TO BE OVERHAULED WHICH WILL BE STARTED NEXT WEEK -CRAIG CFS Burnside Info
Still reckon they should have given them a new one...oh well the ex Sellicks 34 will have to do for now :-)
Does that mean that Blackwood no longer have Sellicks 34 at their station ?
1925592 03:51:15 17-02-08 C181 HI, HE IS CLAIMING SAPOL ASSAULTED HIM...... SAAS Campbelltown
:-oh boy that doesnt sound good :-o
"Comply! Stop resisting! Stop hitting yourself!"
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 16, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
Quote22:21:28 16-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:20,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CARPARK BEHIND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WHITE F,ORD S/WAGON. FROM SAPOL,EUDN19 CFS Eudunda Response
22:44:46 16-02-08 EUDN: *CFSRES: MANUAL TURNOUT RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION 16-02-08 22:44 CFS Eudunda Response
22:45:24 16-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:44,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,BA CREWS REQUIRED FOR STRUCTURE FIRE IN,EUDUNDA, CONTACT GIBERT DGO1 097,RHYN42 TOTH00 RBTN00 SDDL00 CFS Tothill Response
23:08:20 16-02-08 RESPOND TO GRASS FIRE EUDUNDA. ASSIST EUDUNDA. CFS Neales Flat Response
Geez, shows how things can change in a short time..
the car fire and grass fire was one incident and the buliding fire was another one Gilbert base was running the buliding fire while eudunda was dealing with the grass and car fire
there was six fires in total at eudunda last night 4 grass 1 car and a house. the house was started first then the car fire then the grass fires.
i was there with SAAS eudunda was dealing with the 6 fires when i got there and saddleworth got there about 5mins after us the house was abandoned and was a broken down car we got to leave at 130hrs and rudunda and saddleworth were still there waiting for fire cause to rock up
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on February 17, 2008, 11:40:04 AM
there was six fires in total at eudunda last night 4 grass 1 car and a house. the house was started first then the car fire then the grass fires.
i was there with SAAS eudunda was dealing with the 6 fires when i got there and saddleworth got there about 5mins after us the house was abandoned and was a broken down car we got to leave at 130hrs and eudunda and saddleworth were still there waiting for fire cause to rock up
Arson? I hope not....Though it is good to see Neales Flat get a turn poor fellas are on the chopping block...!!!!
P.S: Lucky it happened at night coz the wind is real gusty!!!
there was wind around but i didnt see Neales Flat there i saw
saddleworth 34, rynie tanker, eudunda 24p, eudunda 34, tothill 24 robertstown 24, ididnt see Neales Flat there but they may have been on the other side of the hill with the grass fires and left once the grass fires were out.
Quote from: sesroadcrashrescue on February 17, 2008, 11:53:36 AM
there was wind around but i didnt see Neales Flat there i saw
saddleworth 34, rynie tanker, eudunda 24p, eudunda 34, tothill 24 robertstown 24, ididnt see Neales Flat there but they may have been on the other side of the hill with the grass fires and left once the grass fires were out.
More than likely because they aren't a B.A brigade...they might well not of turned out..... :|
Why the chopping block?
Quote from: chook on February 17, 2008, 01:07:03 PM
Why the chopping block?
Cant get crews and they don't get many calls...
oh fair enough - I guess
More than likely because they aren't a B.A brigade...they might well not of turned out..... :|
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Didnt seem to matter at the Primo Port Wakefield fire..Where a lot of non BA brigades were responded. Obviously they were needed for support though.
Quote from: uniden on February 17, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
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More than likely because they aren't a B.A brigade...they might well not of turned out..... :|
Didnt seem to matter at the Primo Port Wakefield fire..
What do you mean by that? :?
Quote from: StopCallKing on February 16, 2008, 11:23:48 PM
Does that mean that Blackwood no longer have Sellicks 34 at their station ?
Affirmative, it went to Burnside.
what does 'WFAM' stand for on the alarm messages?
And how do the alarms work?
As soon as it goes off does it go to the pager? Or is a dispatch notified which then in turn notifies brigades?
Quote from: Footy on February 17, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
what does 'WFAM' stand for on the alarm messages?
And how do the alarms work?
As soon as it goes off does it go to the pager? Or is a dispatch notified which then in turn notifies brigades?
It stands for (i think) wireless fixed automated modem??
I believe when the alarm goes of it goes up to town and the computer registers the alarm and automatically sends out the preset response, whether it be a WFAM alarm or sprinkler alarm. I think it takes about 45 seconds after the alarm goes off to the pagers dropping.
I could be completely wrong on this though.
Close....
Wireless Fixed Alarm Monitoring
Some more info can be found here (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php/topic,432.msg6468.html#msg6468)
This would have been an interesting one for us city workers if bombers did actually respond to these:
14:03:59 18-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 18/02/08 14:03,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,VICTORIA SQ,ADELAIDE MAP B B 15 TG182,,SAIR55 ADL201 CFS State Air Desk
lol :wink:
Quote from: StopCallKing on February 18, 2008, 12:40:09 PM
This would have been an interesting one for us city workers if bombers did actually respond to these:
14:03:59 18-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 18/02/08 14:03,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,VICTORIA SQ,ADELAIDE MAP B B 15 TG182,,SAIR55 ADL201 CFS State Air Desk
make fore some interesting photos. I reckon a bomber would look good with the SANTOS (Think the name has changed but buggered if i can keep up) building in the background.
Westpac House ;) Santo's name was very attached to it...its like saying the MFS Headquarters is Bank SA :evil:
MFS: *CFSRES INC071 18/02/08 17:34,RESPOND Smoke in Area,DONOVANS CFS,DONOVANS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,HONEYSUCKLE RD,PENAMBOL CONSERVATION PARK,SAIR55 DONV00 CFS State Air Desk
Did Smoke in Area replace smoke sighting or is there a different one for say a plume of smoke? Because when I read smoke in area I think its just a haze....?
yeh i have to agree with you...they are too generic.
How about SMOKE SIGHTING (visible smoke) / UNKNOWN FIRE (unknown cause) / G&S FIRE (visible fire)
(G&S=Grass/Scrub obviously :P)
Yeah exactly!
Ah... hasn't it always been Smoke In area for either people seeing a little bit of smoke, or smelling something burning?
I've always been turned out to "Smoke in Area".
And Zippy, doesn't "Smoke sighting" and "Smoke (visible) in area" essentially mean the same thing?
It hasn't always been that...smoke sighting was the old one i.e BOMS it was more specific....thats my opinion....my interpretation of smoke in area would be like an area is dutched out where as a smoke sighting is a visible plume.
Hmmm, perhaps they are two separate issues. Since the introduction of the Alphanumeric pagers, I've always received "Smoke in area" from SAMFS. Can't ever remember getting smoke sightings, maybe SOCC did.
hmmm, dunno whether we need to lob the poor comms ppl with more nitty gritty things to worry about...
the impersonality of the messages sorta leads to people assuming things anyway, its like when you get a text from someone and it actually means something totally different to what they wanted it to, but its just how you understood it
So what would you sugget?
"MFS: Footy, please can you head to the station as there may be a fire in a vehicle at [location]"
:D
hehe, a phone call maybe??
haha, how funny would that be, can just imagine a comms going
oh, um hi numbers, yeah look, we've got a car vs tree, any chance you would be able to respond, i mean if your not too busy, is that ok?
Quote from: 6739264 on February 18, 2008, 07:16:39 PM
So what would you sugget?
"MFS: Footy, please can you head to the station as there may be a fire in a vehicle at [location]"
:D
Well just picture it this way Smoke in area no visible origin then smoke sighting and a visible origin. You know what I mean as though smoke in area would mean you driving around trying to find a source where as smoke sighting could be more specific......
PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 CFS Moorak Response
If the Jail and Bunnings keep going off Gambier group could be in line for funding for about another 30 trucks this next year!!!
hahaha
Ok Footy....Time to put the juice box back the fridge! :-D
Quote from: Footy on February 18, 2008, 07:30:02 PM
PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 CFS Moorak Response
If the Jail and Bunnings keep going off Gambier group could be in line for funding for about another 30 trucks this next year!!!
hahaha
Yeah as well as Stirling North and Murray Bridge :-P
1908852 22:01:05 18-02-08 MFS: BE ADVISED, TELSTRA IS EXPERIENCING WIDESPREAD MOBILE NETWORK INTERUPTIONS FOR UNKNOWN DURATION 18/02/2008 10:00:54 PM CFS HQ Info
Yet again another flaw in the telstra Next G mobile network :roll:
QuoteAnd Zippy, doesn't "Smoke sighting" and "Smoke (visible) in area" essentially mean the same thing?
I would think Smoke sighting means its seen visible from a location into the distance...while Smoke in Area would actually be in the very near vacinity of the caller.
SOCC could write what ever incident type they wanted...there were no presets..There was even "Tractor Rollover"...in MFS terms thats a MVA...typically MVA's are found on the road, but this rollover occured on a farm...so it could be a "Rescue General" ;)
My god, when will people learn to stop interrogating their pagers? It says there is an incident of X type (RESCUE, STRUCTURE FIRE, RURAL FIRE, HAZMAT, GENERAL ASSISTANCE) at a LOCATION.
How is that not enough information? You have a general idea of the incident, it allows you to select which truck you take, then you drive to the LOCATION see what the incident ACTUALLY is then deal with it. SIMPLE.
Smoke in area/smoke sighting at given location, still means that you drive to an area and look for the smoke, then extinguish the cause...
I'm with you - I would only have the problem with it just sending you to an area without telling you what it is you need to be looking for or doing. Smoke in area ?? Gee, lets take a fire truck and see if we can find any fire that is generating that smoke, I'm guessing it means someone is smelling smoke or seeing a haze of smoke in the area without actually seeing flames or the source of it. Then again maybe you could issue a press release asking people to not ring up unless they actually see smoke, would that be better :? :evil:
Quote from: Crownie24 on February 18, 2008, 04:18:59 PM
Did Smoke in Area replace smoke sighting or is there a different one for say a plume of smoke? Because when I read smoke in area I think its just a haze....?
im almost 100% sure it has always been "smoke in area" in BOMS...
Quote from: Mike on February 18, 2008, 09:08:51 AM
Close....
Wireless Fixed Alarm Monitoring
Some more info can be found here (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php/topic,432.msg6468.html#msg6468)
actually;
Wireless Fire Alarm Monitor[ing]
The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??
QuoteThe whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".
Quote from: Footy on February 19, 2008, 08:22:01 AM
The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??
An alternative is to pickup the telephone in the station or brigade mobile telephone to gain more information, rather than use a GRN talkgroup. Can be quicker to discuss & clarify than 'waiting for over & out'.
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 19, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".
So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.
Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?
I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.
Quote from: 6739264 on February 19, 2008, 08:52:55 AM
I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.
NO NUMBERS!!!!!!!!
BOMs should have thousands of codes, one for every single possible incident that may occur.....
i can see it now, "respond grey smoke plume" "respond hazy smoke in area" "respond white puffy bits"
sarcasm very much intended.
Quote from: 6739264 on February 19, 2008, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 19, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".
So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.
Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?
I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.
But for a RCR more information can be available than will fit on a single pager message. Even for the 'tree down' jobs we can also have extra information. For example, street access information, contact details, risks (powerlines), etc.
Some taskings no further information is available...
Quote from: bajdas on February 19, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
But for a RCR more information can be available than will fit on a single pager message. Even for the 'tree down' jobs we can also have extra information. For example, street access information, contact details, risks (powerlines), etc.
Some taskings no further information is available...
Of course that can be the case. I was just suggesting to Zippy that its quite possible for there to be no more information than is on the page. RCR are a little different, I always make a point of asking if Comms can confirm persons trapped at the very least.
Mack, I'd be a fan of "Dark grey smoke issuing from the combustion of the contents of a room in a domestic dwelling." :D
Quote from: 6739264 on February 19, 2008, 08:52:55 AM
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 19, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".
So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.
Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?
I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.
Yeah mabye the smoke in area page was always a part of BOMS, I was mistaken (thought BOMS was SOC) tho SOC did page smoke sighting.
Quote from: Crownie24 on February 19, 2008, 11:11:21 AM
Yeah mabye the smoke in area page was always a part of BOMS, I was mistaken (thought BOMS was SOC) tho SOC did page smoke sighting.
no problems mate, the old pages from SOCC were typed in airsource. Therefore they were able to put whatever they felt like into the message. Where as BOMs uses pre-determined incident types, which leads to the famoous "Respond TO" for when they dont quite suit.
Quote from: ZIPPY28 on February 18, 2008, 09:10:37 PM
...There was even "Tractor Rollover"...in MFS terms thats a MVA...typically MVA's are found on the road, but this rollover occured on a farm...so it could be a "Rescue General" ;)
MVA = Motor Vehicle Accident. A tractor is a motor vehicle, an unintentional rollover is an accident.
At no point does MVA = a road job, just as tractor rollover wouldn't mean a farm job, because it could also be on the road...
Incident type is general, the specifics come in the extra information.
A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident :-)
Quote from: Robert34 on February 19, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident :-)
What if it didn't happen on a farm?
Quote from: CFS_Firey on February 19, 2008, 02:39:41 PM
Quote from: Robert34 on February 19, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident :-)
What if it didn't happen on a farm?
What if the tractor was being transported on the road,on the back of a truck and rolled off the truck ,killing a man that was wearing a "i luv tractors" t shirt?
Would he be a extractorfan ,haha I crack me up :-D oh well he probably sucked anyway.
Cheers Jaff
I'm with you Jaff!!!!! :-D
I did a search and answered my first Q, what SAIR55 means...
but what does TG182 mean?
TG = Talk Group
it tells the brigades which channels to communicate on.
so TG182 means Talk Group 182
Quote1919371 18:55:18 19-02-08 MFS: CFSRES: PINNAROO RESPOND MVA, TRUCK TRAILER ROLLOVER, LOXTON RD, APPROX 15 KM FROM PINNAROO, SHEEP ON ROAD 19/02/2008 6:55:08 PM CFS Pinnaroo Response
:? :? :? How come it was like this???
30 seconds down the track, it comes like this
Quote1919371 18:55:46 19-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC088 19/02/08 18:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,LOXTON ,LOXTON MAP 0 0 0 TG193,12K NORTH OF PINAROO DRIVER OUT - SHEEP,ON RD.,PINN19 CFS Pinnaroo Response
The first page looks incomplete, doesnt have incident number, doesnt have talk group and doesnt have name of appliance responding?
comms may have done first one, then had to edit cos not complete,
or 1 may have come from adelaide fire and the other from group??
That would have been two different Comm's operators not knowing what eachother was doing.
and my bet is the AIRSOURCE page was done by a Ex CFS OCO ;)...somewhere in our audience ;)
Remember...URGMSG activates our fire sirens, and it seems only a few operators know that ;)
yeah i didnt know that about urgmsg, so your saying it sets of the fire siren at the station? thats cool... lol
What is airsource?
Paging software for computers Footy, We don't use it any more as the company does not exist anymore.
We now use Netpro - its good.
cheers
17:29:43 21-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 21/02/08 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PARA RD,EVANSTON MAP 33 G 3 TG182,AMBULANCE ON FIRE,GAW359 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
Not another Sprinter :-o
05:53:45 22-02-08 Millicent SES:Respond to Mount Gambier for tasking. for details contact MTG HQ - Fron <name> SES Wattle Range Response
I know a Gale Warning was issued at 11:25am by the Bureau for that area, but cannot see much else on the pager.
I am guessing that the tasking (or multiple taskings) are being handled all within Mt Gambier via GRN rather than pager.
I hope everything is OK.
Would have been to assist with the MVA clean up from 0020 that morning. Maybe relief crews, was a messy job apparently.
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 22/02/08 00:17,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PENOLA RD,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT MAP 000 0 0 TG226,5KMS PAST AIRPORT TOWARDS TARPEENA,TRUCK OF ROAD NO ENTRAPMENT,WNDL00 MTG029
10:17:39 22-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC020 22/02/08 10:16,RESPOND To,STURT HWY,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,APPROX 30M SPILL OF ANIMAL EFFLUENT CAUS,ING HAZARD OPP KINGSTON ESTATE WINERY,MORK00 CFS Moorook Response
Yuck lucky them :lol: :-D
First appliance arrives on scene with the arrival message of 'oooh s.h.i.t.t!!!!" :-D
09:03:49 29-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 29/02/08 09:02,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,60 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP A A 11 TG182,MEET CATHERINE FROM SAFECOM AT FRONT DOOR, SMOKE IN BLDG, COMP FIRE NOW OUT. TG155,ADL205 41 ADL201 ADL203 ADL204 MFS Car 41
MFS: *CFSRES INC064 29/02/08 16:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAROSSA VALLEY HWY,LYNDOCH MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1 KM FROM ROSEDALE TURN OFF TO LYNDOCH,TANT00 LYND00 CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Response
1909376 16:29:50 29-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 29/02/08 16:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAROSSA VALLEY HWY,LYNDOCH MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1 KM FROM ROSEDALE TURN OFF TO LYNDOCH,TANT00 LYND00 CFS Tantanoola Response
No offence to you lot in the Barossa but it is a little bit too far to travel for our crew :-D
1908911 16:03:56 29-02-08 BARKER RESCUE NOW BACK IN STATION - AWAITING TO BE RESTOWED WITH EQUIPMENT CFS Mount Barker Response
Wonder if they got that equipment on in time?? :-P
1908911 16:16:22 29-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 29/02/08 16:15,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,MT BARKER MAP 173 E 11 TG128,CNR SPRINGS RD,MBKR19 CFS Mount Barker Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 01/03/08 00:43,RESPOND Rescue Animal,WELLINGTON RD,WISTOW MAP 000 0 0,FROM POLICE, ABOUT 2-3 KM FROM WISTOW. N,O ONE TRAPPED,MTB020 SES Mt Barker Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 01/03/08 00:47,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,WELLINGTON RD,WISTOW MAP 000 0 0 TG128,FROM POLICE ABOUT 2-3 KM FROM WISTOW NO,ONE TRAPPED,MBKR19 CFS Mount Barker Response
adelaide fire is doing well lately :|
1919066 21:27:02 01-03-08 MFS: HAVE FUN CHASING THESE KIDS TONIGHT NIPPER MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
Quote from: Trav on March 01, 2008, 08:41:13 PM
1919066 21:27:02 01-03-08 MFS: HAVE FUN CHASING THESE KIDS TONIGHT NIPPER MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
At This rate Elizabeth aint gonna have a good nights sleep. :mrgreen:
This may not be the right spot but heard something funny on the scanner tonight Barmera 24P was bogged down by the Lake :lol:
1915531 23:31:24 03-03-08 22:19:58 ESCUE HEIGHTS,PENNESHAW ,PENNESHAW MAP 0 0 0 TG130,RIVERSIDE RD BAUDIN BEACH 77YEAR OLD OV,ER CLIFF CONTACT CHARLES VONDUSSA XXXXXXX,10 P1,PENN00 KIS029 SES Loxton
I dont know about you but Loxton sure is a long way from KI :-P
Quote from: SA Firey on March 03, 2008, 10:12:47 PM
1915531 23:31:24 03-03-08 22:19:58 ESCUE HEIGHTS,PENNESHAW ,PENNESHAW MAP 0 0 0 TG130,RIVERSIDE RD BAUDIN BEACH 77YEAR OLD OV,ER CLIFF CONTACT CHARLES VONDUSSA XXXXXXX,10 P1,PENN00 KIS029 SES Loxton
I dont know about you but Loxton sure is a long way from KI :-P
Don't believe the pager website tags...the resources paged were PENN00 (Pennishaw CFS) and KIS029 (Kingscote SES).
The page looked more like one that had been redirected to someone's pager, rather than a direct page from MFS....
Pip
Probably East region Regional Training officer who is based in Loxton.
cheers
Quote01:22:28 05-03-08 MFS: FROM MURRAY BRIDGE CAPTCHANGE OF QUARTERS TO MFS MURRAY BRIDGE CFS Jervois Info
01:23:35 05-03-08 MFS: JERVOIS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MURR BRIDGE MFS STATION CFSRES CFS Jervois Info
01:33:50 05-03-08 MFS: FROM MURRAY BRIDGE CAPT CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO MFS MURRAY BRIDGE CONFIRM WITH ADELAIDE FIRE*URGMSG CFS Jervois Info
Jervois rings up Adelaide Fire...."Whats a Change of Quarters???".... :roll:
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:09,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,PRIVATE DWELLING,DALK19 CFS Dalkeith Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:21,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,WITH DALKEITH,GWLR00 CFS Gawler River Response
DALK: *CFSRES: STATION MANNED FOR FIRECALL 05-03-08 08:21 CFS Dalkeith Response
DALK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED FOR THIS INCIDENT 05-03-08 08:24 CFS Dalkeith Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:36,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,,GAW359 CONC00 MFS Gawler 359
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:36,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,,GAW359 CONC00 CFS Barossa Group Officers
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:45,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,WITH MFS,ROSE00 CFS Roseworthy Response
MFS: *CFSRES:concordia RESPOND stop, ( for private alarm 05/03/2008 8:48:01 AM CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
MFS: STOP FOR CALL CFS Roseworthy Response (08:51)
Now I did not hear the radio traffic associated with this call so I am only guessing that this was not a going structure fire - if it was and all the other brigades were turned out as a result of an upgrade then please dismiss my further message.
If however this was a standard Private Alarm and the other resources were responded as a result of brigades not being able to get a crew then I will begin my own hypothesis on the incident.
First of all why are Dalkeith being responded to Private Alarm by themsleves, this is a two appliance response which for nearly all EMA brigades would indicate a two brigade response (rural brigades will only ever be paged singularly because BOMS is not setup with their data). EMA brigade zones should be setup with two brigades for any structure fire type incident.
If someone in Dalkeith was switched on enough to realise this should be a dual response call why does it then take 12 minutes to respond another brigade, or if turning out Gawler River was a result of no crew at Dalkeith then again I ask why does it take 12 minutes to default. Obviously someone must have acknowledged the page with MFS or they would have defaulted them after 4 minutes, so therefore whoever does the acknowledging then takes on the role of ensuring a suitable response occurs, in any case after 4 minutes if you have not heard any appliance respond you should be thinking about defaulting.
After 15 minutes Dalkeith still don't have a crew - no problems we all have those days sometimes, but then MFS from Gawler and Concordia CFS are responded 27 minutes after the initial response. Surely if you push the more crew button after 15 minutes you should be contacting Adelaide Fire immediately to inform them that we cannot respond you had better turnout someone else in our place.
Roseworthy were responded 36 minutes after the inital call, I am assuming this is because no other CFS brigade had actually managed to crew a truck and the MFS from Gawler were wondering why they were deep in CFS area without them there.
So about 30 minutes after the initial call someone might have actually arrived, god help us if this was a going job.
I have my 'armchair expert' hat firmly attached to my head so I would love for someone involved in this call to fill us in on what actually happened, hopefully it is nothing like I have explained otherwise the whole thing is just an absolute joke.
I am not conented with the issue raised in the above post in any way, but from what i can gather, Hiller is not CFS area any way. All previous calls to Hiller have been MFS first off. So the question that should be asked, is why was Dalkeith responded to MFS area in the first place with out MFS going.
Perhaps SAMFS were busy? Their appliance offline?
QuotePerhaps SAMFS were busy? Their appliance offline?
pizza guy turned up just as call came in :wink:
QuoteTWO workers have been injured, one of them seriously, in a structural collapse at a southern suburbs winery that has spilt one million litres of wine.
A platform supporting a stainless steel tank collapsed on the two men at Wirra Wirra winery, on McMutrie Rd, about 12.30pm, and one was trapped in the wreckage.
The other was able to free himself and is shaken but not seriously injured, according to paramedics.
The man who was trapped has been freed and is on his way to Flinders Medical Centre with spinal injuries.
SafeWork SA has been advised and police are on the scene.
thats umm rather a lot of wine?! 333 34's worth to be precise :-o
Quote from: alphaone on March 06, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
I am not conented with the issue raised in the above post in any way, but from what i can gather, Hiller is not CFS area any way. All previous calls to Hiller have been MFS first off. So the question that should be asked, is why was Dalkeith responded to MFS area in the first place with out MFS going.
Riverbanks, Hillier, Parr and Angle Rds are all zoned 92B in BOMS. The turnout for a PA to any of those streets in Dalkeith only. Turnout for a SD adds Virginia. That's consistent with the boundaries we have loaded in OziExplorer.
I'd also send Stirling North :evil:
Any chance of getting a copy of the Boundaries/responses Layer in the Oziexplorer setup for Comcen?? (Assuming your using the Mt Lofty topographical map ;))
Google Maps would definately say No to Stirling North being responded :P (283 km – about 3 hours 34 mins)
MFS: *CFSRES INC052 07/03/08 13:56,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,462 GREENHILL RD,LINDEN PARK MAP 131 A 1 TG182,TUSMORE BAKERY,EAS020 BURN19 MIT020 GLO441 SES Metro South Response
task has been passed to central region do as power outage at lynton makes roller doors...a manual proposition. SES Metro South Response
I find this concerning that an agency concerened with disaster response doesn't have contingencies to do with power outages, or has a high reliance on electricity to be able to operate and respond.
Do any other brigades out there have similar relainces on electricity, or do they have back up power etc.
Any thoughts
All units have generators however most builings are not wired correctly to hook up generator power (yes I know there is a dodgy way but).
A recent request to upgrade our electrical system, so that we can do that & comply with current ohs & electrical standards was knocked back - NO MONEY.
Seems there are higher priorities in other agencies, than complying with state legislation. So its not a lack of planning or professionalism on the part of the units concerned but rather the powers that be!
This soughtof thing makes a mockery of the whole SAFECOM/ESO portfolio!
Anyway cheers before I say anymore!
So they don't have a procedure to open doors when the power goes out, so they are unaware of how to change the doors over to manual, hmmm, thank god they aren't an emergency service.......
:-o.....have they ever heard of Chains to open the doors, no need for generators...just good old Hard work using what we have called "arms".
Saw an SES Unit leaving as we went past this arvo, two people in total? Do they have trouble getting crews to man units as well?
Ashes
Quote from: Morgan on March 06, 2008, 06:44:46 PM
QuoteTWO workers have been injured, one of them seriously, in a structural collapse at a southern suburbs winery that has spilt one million litres of wine.
A platform supporting a stainless steel tank collapsed on the two men at Wirra Wirra winery, on McMutrie Rd, about 12.30pm, and one was trapped in the wreckage.
The other was able to free himself and is shaken but not seriously injured, according to paramedics.
The man who was trapped has been freed and is on his way to Flinders Medical Centre with spinal injuries.
SafeWork SA has been advised and police are on the scene.
thats umm rather a lot of wine?! 333 34's worth to be precise :-o
& a 14... - To be precise.. ;)
"So they don't have a procedure to open doors when the power goes out, so they are unaware of how to change the doors over to manual, hmmm, thank god they aren't an emergency service.......".....have they ever heard of Chains to open the doors, no need for generators...just good old Hard work using what we have called "arms"."
The page was a "dig"at some people in high places - it should not have been sent, so that everyone can read them-however!
You guys amaze me, very quick to question another service when things don't look right but on the other hand go right off when the criticism is leveled at your respective services. An SES recon team is two people, that is the minmum standard for general response.
If you want to throw stones 1) Urban pumper dragging a combitool down the road, not this area 2) Urban pumper total of 3 crew to a MVA 3) CFS 34 crew of 1 to a MVA 4) CFS Hazmat respones 3/4 hr after other services arrive 5) SAMFS Pumper "rear ends" another pumper - need I go on?
Yes we all have problems, however like it or not we are an ESO & will remain so - get used to it!
Suggest there were other problems - "1908032 15:40:45 07-03-08 replacement duty officer required phone ********* SES Metro South Info"
So I think the issue is being dealt with internally, did it really need the comments?
bye for now
Chook if you want to get into a filtered measuring contest about which emergency service is the worst and shouldn't be throwing stones, I can tell you right now, from the three SES units I work with on a regular occasion, I have never ever seen a job done in a professional manner. There have always been massive issues of either flat out incompetence or self importance being more important than the job at hand.
I'm sure you country guys who actually perform rescue work are half decent, its just your retarded city cousins that are smearing your reputation amongst the other services.
As I have said, there are issues in ALL services, perhaps more in some than others, but there is nothing wrong with pointing out stupidity or incompetence in any service - especially our own.
Hopefully once its commented upon and the issues brought forward, it can be fixed!
1928011 21:39:30 07-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 07/03/08 21:38,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,15 GUM AV,DRY CREEK MAP 94 A 4,TARPS AND LIGHTING REQD FOR SAPOL, P3,ENF020
1919072 14:15:22 08-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 08/03/08 14:15,RESPOND Assist Police,3 GUM AV,DRY CREEK MAP 94 A 4 TG182,,APK361 31 MFS Car 31
Hmmm popular street for SAPol :|
Quote from: BigBaldOne on March 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
1928011 21:39:30 07-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 07/03/08 21:38,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,15 GUM AV,DRY CREEK MAP 94 A 4,TARPS AND LIGHTING REQD FOR SAPOL, P3,ENF020
1919072 14:15:22 08-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 08/03/08 14:15,RESPOND Assist Police,3 GUM AV,DRY CREEK MAP 94 A 4 TG182,,APK361 31 MFS Car 31
Hmmm popular street for SAPol :|
probably drugs stuff. from memory a while back cops raided a meth lab in dry creek. on the way back they could smell dope, opened a warehouse half a street down and found a hydro crop. keeps the cops busy i guess
is it off line or is my comp playing up? :? :?
No your computer is not playing up I've lost the site too and was wondering the same thing.
2nd one was ethanol leaking from a drum.
Quote from: Thirty-eight on March 08, 2008, 02:30:13 PM
No your computer is not playing up I've lost the site too and was wondering the same thing.
Thanks for the info just found it working again. :-D
1909193 16:04:47 10-03-08 STOP FOR CALL - ONE BOAT - FLIPPED OFF TRAILER - CRUISE ISOLATED FUEL LEAK - 34P NOW RETURNING TO STATION - FROM SENIOR ONE CFS Dalkeith Info
1909193 16:06:13 10-03-08 STOP FOR MVA BOAT ROLLOVER FUEL SPILLAGE 34 PUMPER RETURNING TO STATION FROM SANDRA CFS Dalkeith Info
Well I'd just like to say that Dalkeith have great communication skills..... :|
CFS: CFS: AIR OPS INFO: BIRDDOG 500 & BOMBER 563 RELOCATE TO WOODSIDE AT 1700 - SARC CANT > 10/03/2008 4:37:17 PM
who is birddog?
I think its an observation helicopter??? Its really small from memory...
1909265 01:23:03 12-03-08 MFS: HELICOPTER ARRIVING 0155 MONITOR TALK GROUP 020 SECURE LANDING SITE CFS Moorak Response
00:44:04 12-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 12/03/08 00:43,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,ADELAIDE SIDE OF KINGSTON BRIDGE,MORK00 CFS Moorook Response
What a nice early morning wake up call, Moorak probably thought they were going to the jail, not driving 500km to assisst with a helicopter...
When comms puts in details does the GO response automatically come up? Because if it does they might ave noticed Gambier vs Chaffey Groups?
1919074 10:00:38 12-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 12/03/08 10:00,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,GRAND TRUNKWAY ,TORRENS ISLAND MAP 80 G 2 TG182,OIL FIRE ON A4 TURBINE,ADL205 41 PAD251 APK361 OAK303 ERV071 LG2814 LGS281 MFS Car 41
ERV071: Is this emergency response brigade for the Power Station..if not who is it?
LG2814: In this instance would this be the fire boat?
The boys at Largs turn out on 2814 and 281 to man the M.V. Gallantry I believe...
ERV071 is the Gallantry. Marine Officer is on 2814. 281 have another Marine Officer, a regular Station Officer and 2 Firies to crew the boat.
More to the point, the loss of a turbine means reduction in generating capacity. Is there enough capacity in the interconnectors to make up the shortfall...
1909800 14:21:58 13-03-08 CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580/582, FIREBIRD 507 & RESCUE 54 RESPOND GRASSFIRE MCLAREN FLAT, 213 DEGREES, 40 KMS FROM WAB. INC NO 821734 < 13/03/2008 14:21:45 CFS State Air Desk
what is rescue 54?
It must be another Spare ;)
850 hectare fire possibly.
BURNSIDE 24 WILL BE BACK IN STATION AT 1930 HOWEVER IT WILL ONLY HAVE A QUARTER OF A TANK OF DEISEL AND SHOULD ONLY BE REFILLED AND USED IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY MOUNT BARKER TRUCK COMING TO FIX IT IN THE MORNING -
FURTHER CORRECTION - DO NOT TAKE 24 ANYWHERE - IT IS NOT A CACTUS BUT IT IS CACTUS - ANY HELP REQUIRED FOR RE COMMISSIONING IS APPRECIATED CFS Burnside Info
Interesting, then they responded it to this?
MFS: *CFSRES INC096 14/03/08 19:30,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HORSNELL GULLY RD,HORSNELL GULLY MAP 120 M 8 TG126,,NORT00 BURN19 SAIR55 ATHL19 CFS Burnside Response
Obviously wasnt that bad after all?
Did they take their 24?
yeah Burnside pumper, 24 and tanker all came up on GRN
1909191 13:43:15 16-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC055 16/03/08 13:41,RESPOND Assist Police,50 REUBEN RICHARDSON RD,GREENWITH MAP 72 Q 2 TG182,RENDEVOUS WITH SAPOL AT SOUTHERN END OF,REUBEN RICHARDSON RD MALE POURD PETROL,ON SELF AND ARMED WITH CROSS BOW,TTG CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
1909187 13:48:30 16-03-08 MFS: ATTEMPTED SUICIDE BY POLICE, LIGHT BUT NO SIREN, WITH DUE CAUTION CFS Para Group Officers Response
Obviuosly someone doesn't like their job!!!!
Or maybe the heat has gotten to them.
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 04/04/08 13:54,RESPOND Marine Spillage,ELDER RD,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 Q 5 TG182,SPILL IN PORT RIVER COMING OUT OF NORTH,ARM PETER BRADDOCK 0421611757,LG2814 LGS281 ERV071 MFS 2814 Marine
Not sure if this has been asked before but what appliance / person is this?Obviously its environment related.
Thats the MFS Fire Boat Pager Code
Fire boat?
I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry :-)
QuoteFire boat?
I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry
since when do we use the words "MFS" and "gallant" in the same sentence?? :wink:
Quote from: Red Message on April 05, 2008, 05:54:09 PM
Fire boat?
I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry :-)
There is a difference? :-D
1908852 08:08:54 06-04-08 CFS: SIGINC: CFS, NSWRFS & NSWSES ATTENDING TRUCKFIRE BARRIER HWY, COCKBURN. $400,000 DAMAGE, NIL INJURIES - DSC MILLER > 06/04/2008 08:08:43 CFS HQ Info
Any info on this incident :|
1909148 12:45:20 09-04-08 DELIVERY OFF PARACOMBES NEW QUICK ATTACK VEHICLE ARRIVES 1900 THURSDAY THE 1OTH TRAINING ON THIS VEHICLE 1930 PHONE DARRYL FOR APOLOGIES 041780:?23 CFS Paracombe Info
Lucky Bast.ards!
Quote from: Jacob W on April 09, 2008, 12:29:35 PM
1909148 12:45:20 09-04-08 DELIVERY OFF PARACOMBES NEW QUICK ATTACK VEHICLE ARRIVES 1900 THURSDAY THE 1OTH TRAINING ON THIS VEHICLE 1930 PHONE DARRYL FOR APOLOGIES 041780:?23 CFS Paracombe Info
Lucky Bast.ards!
One went out last night but not sure who to.
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on April 06, 2008, 07:47:24 AM
1908852 08:08:54 06-04-08 CFS: SIGINC: CFS, NSWRFS & NSWSES ATTENDING TRUCKFIRE BARRIER HWY, COCKBURN. $400,000 DAMAGE, NIL INJURIES - DSC MILLER > 06/04/2008 08:08:43 CFS HQ Info
Any info on this incident :|
I believe the NSW crews were the nearest resource..
Quote from: safireservice2009 on April 09, 2008, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: Jacob W on April 09, 2008, 12:29:35 PM
1909148 12:45:20 09-04-08 DELIVERY OFF PARACOMBES NEW QUICK ATTACK VEHICLE ARRIVES 1900 THURSDAY THE 1OTH TRAINING ON THIS VEHICLE 1930 PHONE DARRYL FOR APOLOGIES 041780:?23 CFS Paracombe Info
Lucky Bast.ards!
One went out last night but not sure who to.
And the lucky winner is....Bute!
Believe there are a further 6 still to go out.
Pip
16:46:43 09-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 09/04/08 16:45,RESPOND Smoke in Area,MILLICENT CFS,MILLICENT MAP 0 0 0 TG231,N/E SHOW GROUNDS, SMOKE IN PADDOCK WITH,HAYBAILS. CALL FROM GYMNNASTICS CLUB,SAIR55 MILL19 CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Response
It's not the page itself that is interesting it's what happens to fire trucks that drive on a freshly plowed paddock that is the interesting bit :-D
11:59:05 14-04-08 MBKR: CFSRES: MT BARKER CENTRAL ALARM ACTIVATED RESPOND MT BARKER STN CFS Mount Barker Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 14/04/08 12:00,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,! B/ 13 MACLAREN ST,MT BARKER MAP 172 M 6 TG128,FAT FIRE IN SHOP ADJACENT BI LO,MBKR19 LTHT00 CFS Mount Barker Response
12:17:39 14-04-08 W81 Cat2 13 Mclaren St, Mount Barker 172 M6 SAAS Woodside
12:20:18 14-04-08 S81 ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO CLEAR FOR A BURNS CASE IN MT BARKER, WOODSIDE IS EN ROUTE SAAS Stirling
Proof that not all Fire Alarms are FALSE
13:08:22 15-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 15/04/08 13:07,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,XX EASTON RD,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 C 2 TG134,SMELL OF SMOKE AND ALARM SOUNDING,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 CDN431
A little while later.....
13:45:45 15-04-08 HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL* RADIO ALARM CLOCK SOUNDING AND SMOKE FROM SCOTT CREEK - H/V STATION 15/04/2008 1:44:28 PM CFS Happy Valley Info
I know people panic, and we all get these calls occassionally, but with all due to respect to the house owner concerned, and in the words of John Sammy Newman...
YOU IDIOT!
4 Responding Fire trucks, plus one that couldn't (sorry, I'm at work), one Ambo and probably some Sapol as well.
2nd Alarm response off the bat ain't too shabby... :roll:
EMA working atleast.
1908980 17:44:30 15-04-08 MRPH INFO: STATION TURNOUT INFORMATION MANAGEMENT (TIM) SYSTEM IS NOW RUNNING IN TEST MODE, PLEASE COLLECT MAP PRINTOUT FROM PRINTER IN OFFICE AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING THE PAGE - ANY QUESTIONS CONTACT MATT
Curious as to what this is?? :-)
Very interseting.
Sounds like Matt has managed to integrate the paging data with the streetfinder - or something to that affect, so that a map is automatically printed of the incident location based on pager info. Any details MattB???
Can can you integrate it with a Navman and put it in the trucks for full turn by turn directions?
Fireman Sam has had one for ages :lol:
MMMMMM,but will they say GREAT FIRE"S OF LONDON like fireman Sam does??? :lol: May be Matt can let us all know what he has done....
16:32:09 17-04-08 Member attending the BA Course on the weekend, commencement time 1730 Friday at Wakefield St. 380 approved to take.Regards Trevor SES Noarlunga Info
Any one know anything about this???? Would BA be a requirement for any SES members who do Confined Space Rescue????
Quote from: alphaone on April 17, 2008, 04:33:57 PM
16:32:09 17-04-08 Member attending the BA Course on the weekend, commencement time 1730 Friday at Wakefield St. 380 approved to take.Regards Trevor SES Noarlunga Info
Any one know anything about this???? Would BA be a requirement for any SES members who do Confined Space Rescue????
I think this would be USAR and confined space rescue training...many SES units now have BA and complete training to industry standard. Maybe a training exercise or re-assess which has to be done regularly.
Cool, thanks for the info Andrew. Thats what I thought it must before.
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED DOWNGRADE RESPONSE CLARENDON 24P RETURNED TO STATION - H/V STATION 18/04/2008 9:37:49 AM
Anyone know why Happy Valley are running Clarendon 24P from their station?
pumper offline perhaps?
Their Pumper left our station yesterday bound for Skilled in Victoria, I believe there is some electrical issues with the pump control.
Clarendon 24P running out of Happy Valley and Happy Valley 34 running out of Clarendon.
Along with an old 34 which is soon to grace their presence for the shor term.. (Until pumper is back).
Now did I hear it right that Barker pumper has the same problem??? If so is CFS going to tell the other brigade's/groups about the problem so that they can check their type two pumpers???
Its nothing that you can "check" I believe Bill.. From what I have heard, it seems to be an intermittent problem with either the main control box, the rear pump panel, or, the wiring some where in between..
However, I have heard reports of this through a number of various editions of those appliances (Mainly the more recent models).. So hopefully what ever it is, it is picked up and rectified SOONER rather than later!!
** Shakes head **
When will they ever learn?
1909229 14:37:18 19-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 19/04/08 14:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KEILIRA CFS,KEILIRA MAP 0 0 0 TG224,DEH BURNOFF BROKEN LINES AT MT SCOTT,SAIR55 KEIL00 KNGS00 REED00 CFS: Keilira & District
Ease up. Mistakes happen.
Was not a big problem,the wind picked up that is all and some brigade's where stopped called,we all make mistakes and it was good to see that DEH called for help sooner rather than later.....
Quote from: safireservice2009 on April 19, 2008, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on April 19, 2008, 04:21:05 PM
Ease up. Mistakes happen.
All too often in some cases. :-P
Yeah granted if they were doing a burn in the middle of summer i would tend to agree with you. But the weather at the moment is perfect for completing controlled burns. So in the event that it does break free like it did yesterday it wouldnt travel far. Yesterdays effort burnt less than a hectare i believe.
17:48:33 21-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 21/04/08 17:48,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ANGAS ST,ADELAIDE MAP B B 18 TG182,CNR PULTENEY, PERSONS TRAPPED, RESCUE UN,DER WAY,31 MFS Car 31
What was the result Jono? Did they make the grab?
primary & secondary searches of the (abandoned) premises found no persons inside. seems it was a common squat for more than one homeless person...
Thanks rusty. - Good outcome!
Did anyones PDW's pickup the other half of this message????
1909545 12:36:38 22-04-08 (2of2) t Thursday (17/4). No assets are at threat and CFS crews have not been responded. DEH SC.
12:36:29 22-04-08 (1of2) DEH crews in South East Region are attending a 1 ha fire adjacent Mount Scott CP that has breached containment lines from a prescribed burn conducted las
Cheers CFS_Firey,
I understand that it is the season for burning, but surely they need to keep a better eye on these things.
14:25:43 23-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 23/04/08 14:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,73 HIMALAYA DR,NORTH HAVEN MAP 67 K 11 TG182,ASSIST 281 AT REAR OF THIS LOCATION WITH, GRASS FIRE,SAIR55 LG2814 MFS 2814 Marine
Imagine having a boat as one of your primary response appliances?
That is way cool!!
It would be funny, but its not a boat, its a 14 appliance.
oops...
there go my fantasies...
Is it a ROSA then?
Quote from: Footy on April 23, 2008, 05:21:17 PM
oops...
there go my fantasies...
Is it a ROSA then?
yes
last night, no sleep.
02:12:45 24-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 24/04/08 02:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RIVER RD,PORT NOARLUNGA MAP 185 J 14 TG182,OPPOSITE CATHERINE ST,CDN431 SEAF00 SAIR55 CFS Seaford Response
03:15:11 24-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC009 24/04/08 03:14,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NEW RD,PORT NOARLUNGA MAP 185 M 16 TG182,FIRE IN SCRUB BETWEEN NEW RD & KULKYNE W,AY,CDN431 SEAF00 SAIR55 CFS Seaford Response
03:39:03 24-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 24/04/08 03:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RIVER RD,PORT NOARLUNGA MAP 185 J 14 TG182,,CDN431 SEAF00 SAIR55 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
04:09:00 24-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 24/04/08 04:08,RESPOND Fence Fire,75 COMMERCIAL RD,PORT NOARLUNGA SOUTH MAP 195 H 3 TG182,,CDN431 SEAF00 CDN439 CFS Seaford Response
Kids these days... *shakes fist*
Ah well, looks like Seaford MFS will be kept busy then.
Poor gents won't get a wink of sleep. As long as it all happens after Foxtel time, its all good.
:lol:... - New Season of Rescue Me starts beginning of May.. ;)
Oh well, when MFS go in there you will get your sleep :evil:
sorry, poor form i know...
Not poor form, just a lack of intelligence to post something worth while. :-o
1928012 16:33:29 26-04-08 MFS: stop for call 052 child found from sapol 26/04/2008 4:33:17 PM SES East Region
1918237 16:33:27 26-04-08 MFS: stop for call 052 child found from sapol 26/04/2008 4:33:17 PM SES Berri
Not bad we weren't called :x
1908528 16:27:57 26-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 26/04/08 16:26,RESPOND SEARCH,BERRI SES,BERRI MAP 0 A 0,LIAISE WITH SAPOL AT PUMP STN RIVERVIEW,DR FOR SEARCH OF 7YO BOY. 4WD REQD,SDO050 SES State Duty Officer
Used to be activated locally & considering the location was near the river, time is of the essence! Thankfully the child was found!
Seems to be the way of the future!
Anyway I guess a grievance will be going in :wink:
cheers
By the looks of that, the SES state duty officer was notifed of the response, then 6 mins later a stop went out.. - Maybe in that time he was in the process of sending out a Unit response?
SES were notified though, so you can only grieve to your heirachy if what I can see is what occured..
Yep already spoken to the regional DO to find out what happened, but in the past the state DO and the unit would be paged together (takes time to organise the boat etc). Now we seem to be controlled more by central, several weeks ago (the two semi fatal at Monash) we were responded without any request by the unit in attendance (Barmera), they weren't even informed we were coming!
We (the local UM's) have already asked "Is this (Monash)a one off or is this the way we are going to operate from now on?"
It appears that going forward Unit Managers (used to be controllers) have less control of our units.
This time as I said the outcome was a good one, however next time that six minute delay could cause a very different result! Hopefully this was an oversite and not a change in operational practice! By the way any search near the river would result in the boat being deployed early as a possible so it (the river)can be discounted & the quad bikes from Barmera and a team from Loxton or Renmark as well! The plan is to hit the area hard and early to contain the person quickly, as I said time is of the essence.
cheers
FROM KAPUNDA FIRE STANDBY FOR THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE, FROM S.F.F. DEUTER BECAUSE KAPUNDA S.E.S. WILL BE OUT OF DISTRICT FROM 0400 HRS MONDAY 5TH. MAY FOR INDEFINITE PERIOD KAPUNDA 641 WILL BE FIRST RESPONCE FOR R.C.R. UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
Related to:
1908027 21:35:31 04-05-08 KAPUNDA CREW GOING TO SEARCH AREA BRING OWN FOOD FOR BREAKFAST. BE AT STATION BY 0340HRS FROM KAPUNDA DUTY OFFICER SES Kapunda Response
The search is in regards to a report of uni students trapped by a rock slide in the rangers somewhere possibly Mambray Creak started yesturday.
REPLACEMENT TRUCK COMING FOR KAROONDA 34P ALL BA RCR GEAR AND HANDHELD RADIOS WILL BE IN THE TRAILER - TAKE TO INCIDENT AS REQUIRED - THANKS KAROONDA CAPTAIN CFS Karoonda Info
dose anyone knows whats wrong with new 34p fleet :| :| :?
Quotedose anyone knows whats wrong with new 34p fleet
laughing out loud.
MMMMMM yet another one bite's the dust,well there getting a temp appliance poor Meningie only have one appliance to cover their area how rude is that.....with all those 34 spare's sitting at MFS workshops why can't they have one???
theres are lot of shifting and temporary changing around at all brigades involved for the duration of repairs to the 10 trucks ;)
16:05:33 06-05-08 REMINDER OF BRIGADE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT -NEED AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE TO ATTEND AS WE HAVE MEMBERSHIP ISSUES TO DISCUSS - IF YOU HAVE DRESS UNIFORM PLS WEAR IT - THANKS DEAN YOU CFS Aldinga Info
Interesting...
May be at last they are looking at asking region to allow them to have more members than what they have :roll: I hope so
Quote from: CFS_Firey on May 06, 2008, 04:28:33 PM
16:05:33 06-05-08 REMINDER OF BRIGADE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT -NEED AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE TO ATTEND AS WE HAVE MEMBERSHIP ISSUES TO DISCUSS - IF YOU HAVE DRESS UNIFORM PLS WEAR IT - THANKS DEAN YOU CFS Aldinga Info
Interesting...
yes! how many people at brigade level (or even group level) have dress uniforms? In my brigade I reckon maybe 3 people and probably 1 that can still fit in it after all the years.
12:17:26 07-05-08 LOX: URGMSG Respond RCR. Required 2 members in 41 to assist Police 10k past Alawoona for roll over. No injuries and all out of vehicle. NO LIGHTS or SIRENS. Pls call Danny to confirm responce NOT Adel Fire. Danny
Then..
MFS: *CFSRES INC029 07/05/08 12:22,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,VEITCH ,VEITCH MAP 000 0 0 TG203, FROM BERRI POLICE CAR ROLLOVER 30 KMS F,5A TOWER,LOX029 BRWL00
17:11:31 07-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 07/05/08 17:10,RESPOND Tree Fire,BOSMAN DR,BERRI MAP 0 0 0 TG193,OPP BERRI CLUB,SAIR55 BER609 MFS Berri Response
17:26:41 07-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 07/05/08 17:25,RESPOND Tree Fire,BOSMAN DR,BERRI MAP 0 0 0 TG193,OPPOSITE BERRI CLUB.MFS PROBLEMS GETTING, CREW,SAIR55 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
Now that is a long delay 15 minutes :?
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: CONFIRMING TELECONFERENCE AT 1530 HRS THIS AFTERNOON REGARDING FIRE & EMERGENCY SERVICES ACT. COMMANDERS & MANAGERS PLEASE ATTEND - REGARDS A.LAWSON. > 09/05/2008 9:39:32 AM CFS STC Info
Anyone know what's up with the act?
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera
Cook is that area not Berri responce area? :?
This is what I sent to region
*****not sure why Barmera & Glossop got called to this:-
1919306 08:40:10 09-05-08
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera
1924962
08:34:43
09-05-08
BE71 Cat2 Trennaman Rd, Berri SAAS Road Crash Research
Except for the fact they said Glossop instead of Monash
Hopefully SACAD will fix this problem
Cheers
Ken"
If the attached map works you will see you are quite right, unfortunately
if you type "Glossop" into the system Barmera gets responded. In all honesty I'm not particularly worried about this type of stuff anymore as the Commcen can only go on what they are told. Of more concern is the other stuff thats going on around the place like "volunteers charter" that we didn't know about until 2 weeks ago & other weird stuff like that. Anyway cheers mate & take it easy.
QuoteThis is what I sent to region
*****not sure why Barmera & Glossop got called to this:-
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera
08:34:43 09-05-08 BE71 Cat2 Trennaman Rd, Berri
Except for the fact they said Glossop instead of Monash
Hopefully SACAD will fix this problem
Cheers
Ken"
If the attached map works you will see you are quite right, unfortunately
if you type "Glossop" into the system Barmera gets responded. In all honesty I'm not particularly worried about this type of stuff anymore as the Commcen can only go on what they are told. Of more concern is the other stuff thats going on around the place like "volunteers charter" that we didn't know about until 2 weeks ago & other weird stuff like that. Anyway cheers mate & take it easy.
I did my own search for 'TRENAMAN ROAD, GLOSSOP' in Google maps...and the first suggestion was acutally 'Trenaman Crescent Berri SA 5343' It wasnt until i corrected the spelling that it came up as 'Trennaman Rd Glossop SA 5344'.
Quite right about the response being decided on the town name rather than the pin point location, since outside the land of the UBD map theres no preprogrammed addresses...so all youll get is "Vehicle Accident, GLOSSOP CFS, GLOSSOP" or "Vehicle Accident, BERRI, BERRI"...either way...a Fire brigade and a rescue brigade will be "recommended" best suiting the township chosen...
I think it all depends on the mind of the call taker ;) Cant trust a computer for filtered these days...
SACAD continues to be God :evil:
Yep, anyway at least someone was responded :wink:
So no real harm done, my greater concern is when no one is called.
cheers
Quote from: chook on May 09, 2008, 02:50:42 PM
This is what I sent to region
*****not sure why Barmera & Glossop got called to this:-
1919306 08:40:10 09-05-08
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera
1924962
08:34:43
09-05-08
BE71 Cat2 Trennaman Rd, Berri SAAS Road Crash Research
Except for the fact they said Glossop instead of Monash
Hopefully SACAD will fix this problem
Cheers
Ken"
If the attached map works you will see you are quite right, unfortunately
if you type "Glossop" into the system Barmera gets responded. In all honesty I'm not particularly worried about this type of stuff anymore as the Commcen can only go on what they are told. Of more concern is the other stuff thats going on around the place like "volunteers charter" that we didn't know about until 2 weeks ago & other weird stuff like that. Anyway cheers mate & take it easy.
Sorry chook but that road is boundry of Glossop and Monash and seeing Monash 34 is off line until later this month they had to send Glossop only. Glossop is all the way up Jurry road to the middel of Trennaman from Old Sturt Highway
Quote1926877 16:24:35 09-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC041 09/05/08 16:24,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,MAIN NORTH RD,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 H 15 TG182,IN DRIVEWAY OF ON THE RUN,ELZ331 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
a carfire in the drive way of a petrol station??? fun..................... :-o
GROUP INFO TO ALL MEMBERS THAT WERE BOOKED FOR NAVIGATE IN URBAN ENVIRONMENT COURSE THIS WEEKEND HAS BEEN CANCELLED BY STATE TRAINING CENTRE DUE TO LACK OF NUMBERS - ANY QUERIES CONTACT GROUP TRAINING COORDINATOR
I wonder if it was lack of numbers or money? I've been wanting to do that course for a while now, obviously didnt try too hard to fill it?
Doesnt seem available to many brigades in the first place? not openly advertised enough to firefighters?
well i got told it was for officers and drivers and as i am neither it wasn't offered. mabey we need an online interactive sign up for courses? :roll:
Thats an idea...a CFS Intranet that goes beyond State and Region but also to brigades ;)
Never even heard of it until now :|
Apart from the obvious what does it actually do??
If you have a good T/O that gives you the state and region course lists, that should make the best of the 'advertisement' side of things Zippy. That is a big IF though :wink:
As to what the course has in it, when I did it, it was focusing on the different types of maps used, as well as how to direct someone correctly, and finally looking at major and minor landmarks to use as points of reference given a major disaster.
Quote from: Red Message on May 12, 2008, 05:33:41 PM
If you have a good T/O that gives you the state and region course lists, that should make the best of the 'advertisement' side of things Zippy. That is a big IF though :wink:
As to what the course has in it, when I did it, it was focusing on the different types of maps used, as well as how to direct someone correctly, and finally looking at major and minor landmarks to use as points of reference given a major disaster.
Hopefully it is the same course that SASES have been delivering. Sounds like the same competency.
1928011 02:03:39 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 01:59,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE AS A RESULT, OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 SHED WALL,SDO050 NOA029 SES Central Region
1908053 02:03:37 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 01:59,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE AS A RESULT, OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 SHED WALL,SDO050 NOA029 SES Noarlunga Response
1908528 02:03:26 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 01:59,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE AS A RESULT, OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 SHED WALL,SDO050 NOA029 SES State Duty Officer
1908528 02:05:13 13-05-08 MFS: stop for call - not required afterall 13/05/2008 2:05:02 AM SES State Duty Officer
1928011 02:05:11 13-05-08 MFS: stop for call - not required afterall 13/05/2008 2:04:58 AM SES Central Region
1908053 02:05:09 13-05-08 MFS: stop for call - not required afterall 13/05/2008 2:04:58 AM SES Noarlunga Response
1928011 02:21:33 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 02:19,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE ASA RESULT,OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 - REQUEST,FROM POLICE,SDO050 NOA029 SES Central Region
1908053 02:21:30 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 02:19,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE ASA RESULT,OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 - REQUEST,FROM POLICE,SDO050 NOA029 SES Noarlunga Response
1908528 02:21:18 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 02:19,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE ASA RESULT,OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 - REQUEST,FROM POLICE,SDO050 NOA029 SES State Duty Officer
I'm not sure if I would bother getting out of bed the second time, maybe push the wall over, put up barrier tape and then no dramas :wink:
cheers
obviously the police thought it to be more of a risk than the MFS?
Yep & maybe that discussion should of taken place prior to a Stop call being issued in the first place, interagency coordination at its best :wink:
After all these guys are volunteers who have jobs to got to in the morning, so as I said a bit of consultation at the scene & a decision made would be a lot more professional than "go" "don't go" "go" don't you think?
Anyway I said my piece & I'm sure the payed staff of our service will look into it.
cheers
OK, we all know how it works, especially with this weather, but my whinge for the day... :roll:
10:43:18 17-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 17/05/08 10:41,RESPOND To,*** BLACK RD,FLAGSTAFF HILL MAP 165 Q 2 TG182,WATER COMING THROUGH LIGHT GLOBE DUE TO,LEAKING ROOF,OHH421 HPPY00
1. Call a plumber to fix the roof, then,
2. An Electrician to check the wiring is safe and dry,
but why "000" ?.
Sometime ago now, the circuit breaker was invented. Even more recently, the RCD (safety switch) was invented. These should adequately protect the installation from catching fire, in this circumstance. But if your not sure, turn the filtered thing off just in case. Then refer to 1. and 2. above
Unless there is ACTUALLY a fire, dont call the Emergency services - don't you think they're busy anough at the moment!
Lack of proper home maintenance does not constitute an emergency. More than likely, we will just isolate it and tell the owner to call a sparky anyway.
Enough said. Whinge over :-D
00:31:31 17-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC003 17/05/08 00:30,RESPOND To,STIRLING NORTH CFS,STIRLING NORTH MAP 0 0 0 TG068,CREW REQUIRED IN WHYALLA BY 0900 HRS,PLS RING BOB ON 0417 837794 IF AVAILABLE,MEMBERS ON 1ST AID IGNORE THIS MSG,STLN19
Anyone know what is going on in Whyalla???
I found it there is a gas problem.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23712892-5006301,00.html
Quote from: calspec on May 17, 2008, 10:29:06 AM
OK, we all know how it works, especially with this weather, but my whinge for the day... :roll:
10:43:18 17-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 17/05/08 10:41,RESPOND To,*** BLACK RD,FLAGSTAFF HILL MAP 165 Q 2 TG182,WATER COMING THROUGH LIGHT GLOBE DUE TO,LEAKING ROOF,OHH421 HPPY00
1. Call a plumber to fix the roof, then,
2. An Electrician to check the wiring is safe and dry,
but why "000" ?.
Sometime ago now, the circuit breaker was invented. Even more recently, the RCD (safety switch) was invented. These should adequately protect the installation from catching fire, in this circumstance. But if your not sure, turn the filtered thing off just in case. Then refer to 1. and 2. above
Unless there is ACTUALLY a fire, dont call the Emergency services - don't you think they're busy anough at the moment!
Lack of proper home maintenance does not constitute an emergency. More than likely, we will just isolate it and tell the owner to call a sparky anyway.
Enough said. Whinge over :-D
Could have been a call to 132500, not 000. At that time both lines are answered by MFS ComCen. A person being electrocuted is a risk in my book.
During the late afternoon, I answered a 132500 call as a SES volunteer when SES SCC sctivated. The resident stated the handyman sent by the insurance company would not fix the 'water blown under flashing on a flat roof' due to the storm. So the insurance company suggested SES be called to minimise further damage. She had water dripping from the family room light fitting, so the ceiling would be next to collapse.
I do not know what the volunteer crew did at the tasking, or if the SES Unit accepted the tasking.
Protection of injury and structure.
I would think water entering the house would be more of an emergency than a tree branch fallen on a fence. You see plenty of pages for those jobs or trees on driveways.
GOOD EVENING - AS THE CAPT OF THE BRIGADE I NEED TO REMIND ALL PERSONNEL THAT ANGLE VALE IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF DALKEITH BRIGADE AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO RESPOND 2 TRUCKS TO ALL INCIDENTS - PLS KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN PAGER SOUNDS >>> CFS Dalkeith Info
hardly think a rubbish fire/grass fire in middle of winter is much to get over excited about not gettin a big response....
CFSRES INC056 26/05/08 18:42,RESPOND RCR,BOUNDARY RD,LEWISTON MAP 20 N 11 TG100,ADJ HAYMAN RD FROM POLICE CAR V TREE,VIRG19 GWLR00
Opps :-o
Hope they get out ok.
although it looks funny i think it meant to be from police, Car V's tree
QuoteIn your own time please come down to the station to have a look at the entry and exits to the station so you know how to get in for a fire call - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info
Any one know what this is about. Just curious.
Seaford and pager messages.. Like the omega code sometimes..
lol..
My theory is the secret code means "for those who havent came to a firecall in a while, this is how you do it" :evil:
Quote from: alphaone on May 27, 2008, 11:13:06 AM
QuoteIn your own time please come down to the station to have a look at the entry and exits to the station so you know how to get in for a fire call - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info
Any one know what this is about. Just curious.
Seaford Road is closed between Commercial & Grand Boulevard while they rebuild the road. This closure started during the weekend.
Seaford CFS have had a dirt road put in a few weeks ago so that they can enter & exit the station while the new Seaford Road gutters were built.
This access road might have changed this week.
MRPH INFO: ANYONE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IN PICKING UP A NEW 34 FROM ANGLE PARK ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND RETURNING IT ON MONDAY PLEASE CALL MATT - 0403 437 226 CFS Morphett Vale Info
Are MV finally getting a new truck :? :?
id say it would e for their big equipment day on sunday...just a guess???
Quote from: Jason Carroll on May 27, 2008, 07:23:22 PM
MRPH INFO: ANYONE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IN PICKING UP A NEW 34 FROM ANGLE PARK ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND RETURNING IT ON MONDAY PLEASE CALL MATT - 0403 437 226 CFS Morphett Vale Info
Are MV finally getting a new truck :? :?
They deserve it! dont we all agree, unless they are waiting for something that suits them better of course ;)
Ha ha, Morphett Vale get a new truck - you must be joking!!
The 34 is the new Varley built one, it is not entirely finished yet as I believe Varley still need to fix up a couple items but it will be there on Sunday.
We now have a quite a good list of vehicles coming along, still room for more though just let me know what your bringing and we will put you somewhere.
Matt
should get a pumper down there matt for the display, then just loose the keys when it comes time to returning it, might be the quickets way to get some new equipment in the gararge :evil:
Sounds like the sort of thing one of our neighbours might do, borrow a truck for a PR event and not give it back :-o
Thought it was to good to be true, yep they do deserve a new truck but not one of them Varley 34's.
Quote from: mattb on May 28, 2008, 11:54:43 AM
Sounds like the sort of thing one of our neighbours might do, borrow a truck for a PR event and not give it back :-o
Gotta be quick in this day and age..
UPST: Attention Lofty DO from UPST Capt: FYI Upper Sturt Station offline till 2300 hrs. Default brigade has been arranged with Adelaide Fire. 2/06/2008
Interesting....anyone know why?
This would be why Camo
1909007 19:06:46 01-06-08 FLEX-A ALPHA 1600 From Capt: Crews to Brukunda as follows. Upper Sturt 12 leaving station at 1830hrs. If you are not there the appliance will go without you. Crew: Steve, Allan, James, Dan, John.
-= CFS Upper Sturt Info =-
1909007 19:08:27 01-06-08 FLEX-A ALPHA 1600 From Capt: Crews to Brukunda as follows. Upper Sturt 24 leaving station at 1915hrs. If you are not there the appliance will go without you. Crew: Moose, Geoff, Ginger Ninja, Fire Man Sam.
-= CFS Upper Sturt Info =-
Hey Chook, you're an SES man, whats the go the search happening in Adelaide?
Seems to be a few teams heading out, I havent seen anything on the news so was wondering if you knew anything?
MFS: *CFSRES INC013 03/06/08 09:02,
RESPOND SEARCH,
U61 - 17 RIVER ST,
MARDEN MAP 107 B 12,
FROM POLICE - PERSON MISSING SINCE 1/6/2008 - CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR MORE INFO- 82043505,
SDO050
Quote from: Zippy on June 03, 2008, 03:50:17 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC013 03/06/08 09:02,
RESPOND SEARCH,
U61 - 17 RIVER ST,
MARDEN MAP 107 B 12,
FROM POLICE - PERSON MISSING SINCE 1/6/2008 - CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR MORE INFO- 82043505,
SDO050
Also from pager website
17:22:26 03-06-08 NO REQUIREMENTS FOR SEARCH CREW TOMORROW MISSING PERSON LOCATED
Also from http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23802583-2682,00.html
June 03, 2008 10:50am
Search for missing, deaf, disabled man at Marden
"A SEARCH is underway for a disabled man missing from his northeastern suburbs house.
Kevin John Lee, 58, has suffered a stroke, is intellectually disabled, deaf and has trouble communicating due to a speech impediment.
Mr Lee was reported missing from his River St, Marden, home at about 5pm yesterday by his mother when he failed to return from a morning walk.
He is described as being Caucasian, about 160cm tall, about 60kgs and of slim build.
SES Volunteers have joined local police in a search of the area around River St and the nearby River Torrens."
Sorry Footy not my area - seems like Andrew & Zippy have covered it though. And the person was located by the last message.
cheers
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 12/06/08 12:09,RESPOND Rescue Industria,MULLER RD,GREENACRES MAP 106 P 3 TG182,GREENACRES SHOPPING CENTER ,GREENACRES M,EAT MARKET, PERSON WITH HAND STUCK IN MINCER,ADL204 ENF020 OAK303
Two words, F*&#ing OUCH!!!
maybe another attempted mfs takeover :?
21:10:11 13-06-08 PL181 Cat2 Grand Tasman Hotel 94 Tasman Tce, Port Lincoln C228 N1
and then:
21:20:50 13-06-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP MAIN ENT FOYER, TASMAN HOTEL, TASMAN TCE, PORT LINCOLN
Coincidence? Or was there something happening there?
17:56:05 14-06-08 MFS: KEITH SES HAS BEEN RESPONDED AS DEFAULT FOR VEHICLE RESCUE AT KEILORA INC 41 - PLEASE CONTACT ADEL FIRE 82043782 SES East Region
MMMM Lucindale is a hell of a lot closer than keith ses....
1924962 18:10:45 14-06-08 LU181 Cat2 Bordertown-kingston Rd, Kingston SAAS Road Crash Research
1908551 18:10:43 14-06-08 LU181 Cat2 Bordertown-kingston Rd, Kingston SAAS Lucindale
SAAS from Kingston where paged at 1733hrs....
Whats with that time difference? Maybe we should have a long and furiously impotent discussion about it!
Go!
No point :-D
The comms people were rather busy I gather - took ages for them to answer the phone when I called to acknowledge our page (which was about the same time).
And I gather that there may have been changes with CFS that they are trying to get used to - e.g. Glossop being called to a Monash job! (apparently response areas changed a month ago).
So whinging about it is a waste - its not a pefect world after all.
have a nice day cheers
MRPH: IF ANYONE IS AVAILABLE TO TAKE M24P TO WILLUNGA TOMORROW MORNING COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE STATION NOW - FOR INFO IT WILL BE UNAVAILABLE FOR TWO DAYS - LT1 - MAWSON BASE CFS Morphett Vale Info
Interesting, whats going on Matt? this must be a bit of a risk not having your pumper?? do you have a replacement or just running with your 24 for a few days?
19:31:33 17-06-08 F174 THIS PT HAS ANSWERED YES TO QUESTIONS ON BIRD FLU, PLEASE RING INFECTION CONTROL BEFORE ATTENDING SAAS Fulham
:roll:
00:42:11 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:41,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,POSSIBLE HOUSE FIRE.,BRDG00 ALDG00
00:50:18 18-06-08 MFS: NO. 91 OSTERLY. WELL INVOLVED.*URGMSG
00:55:15 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST BRIDGEWATER AND ALDGATE.,STRL19
00:57:30 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:56,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH BA AND ATMOSPHERIC MONITORIN,G AT HOUSEFIRE.,BURN28
01:03:00 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 01:02,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE. TG 136,HAHN00
06:58:09 18-06-08 MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MT LOFTY GROUP ATTENDED HOUSE FIRE, BRIDGEWATER. HOUSE DESTROYED. FIRE CAUSE ATTENDED. DSC WATTS 18/06/2008 6:57:59 AM
Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!
hahahah
SNAFU??
Situation normal - all filtered up.
Why was this an over resourced job?
How did the job not go as it should have?
i am guessing that numbers is referring to a bit of a lofty group thing that whenever there is a job there is a huge response.
Stupidly resourced, doubling up on resources, inability to correctly use assigned resources etc etc...
Quote from: bittenyakka on June 18, 2008, 12:01:59 PM
i am guessing that numbers is referring to a bit of a lofty group thing that whenever there is a job there is a huge response.
One in all in policy.
PS they have been called back there.
Christ, they can't even burn a house down properly. ;)
QuoteMRPH: IF ANYONE IS AVAILABLE TO TAKE M24P TO WILLUNGA TOMORROW MORNING COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE STATION NOW - FOR INFO IT WILL BE UNAVAILABLE FOR TWO DAYS - LT1 - MAWSON BASE CFS Morphett Vale Info
Interesting, whats going on Matt? this must be a bit of a risk not having your pumper?? do you have a replacement or just running with your 24 for a few days?
Well the risk is minimal as 24P isn't really a pumper anyway, unless you class pumping out 1650lpm a pumper (I know the specs say 1900lpm but some independent testing with some pretty schmick gear confirmed our own numbers).
Also CFS don't have any spare pumpers anyway so the best we can get is a 24, if our appliance isn't going to be back this week we will push for a spare but really there is not a lot you can do.
Matt, in the past CFS have been able to get a spare MFS pumper so you guys should be able to get one.....As there are a number of MFS spare's around.....
Morphett Vale 811 ;)
Quote from: bill - Hynam CFS on June 18, 2008, 09:54:29 PM
Matt, in the past CFS have been able to get a spare MFS pumper so you guys should be able to get one.....As there are a number of MFS spare's around.....
Yeah in the past they have, but not in a sensative area like that, others have recently tried.
Quote from: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 09:46:19 AM
00:42:11 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:41,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,POSSIBLE HOUSE FIRE.,BRDG00 ALDG00
00:50:18 18-06-08 MFS: NO. 91 OSTERLY. WELL INVOLVED.*URGMSG
00:55:15 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST BRIDGEWATER AND ALDGATE.,STRL19
00:57:30 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:56,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH BA AND ATMOSPHERIC MONITORIN,G AT HOUSEFIRE.,BURN28
01:03:00 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 01:02,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE. TG 136,HAHN00
06:58:09 18-06-08 MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MT LOFTY GROUP ATTENDED HOUSE FIRE, BRIDGEWATER. HOUSE DESTROYED. FIRE CAUSE ATTENDED. DSC WATTS 18/06/2008 6:57:59 AM
Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!
Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Quote from: jaff on June 19, 2008, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 09:46:19 AM
00:42:11 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:41,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,POSSIBLE HOUSE FIRE.,BRDG00 ALDG00
00:50:18 18-06-08 MFS: NO. 91 OSTERLY. WELL INVOLVED.*URGMSG
00:55:15 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST BRIDGEWATER AND ALDGATE.,STRL19
00:57:30 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:56,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH BA AND ATMOSPHERIC MONITORIN,G AT HOUSEFIRE.,BURN28
01:03:00 18-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 01:02,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE. TG 136,HAHN00
06:58:09 18-06-08 MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MT LOFTY GROUP ATTENDED HOUSE FIRE, BRIDGEWATER. HOUSE DESTROYED. FIRE CAUSE ATTENDED. DSC WATTS 18/06/2008 6:57:59 AM
Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!
Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Not when the DGO's from Burnside :wink:
Quote from: safireservice on June 19, 2008, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: jaff on June 19, 2008, 06:48:52 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 09:46:19 AM
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Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!
Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Not when the DGO's from Burnside :wink:
Actually, he's from Bradbury ;)
I believe Oakbank Balhannah don't have atmospheric monitoring other than a PID - making Burnside the closest most appropriate resource... :)
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Quote from: jaff on June 19, 2008, 06:48:52 PM
Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Or Stirling that is already at the job...
a 'Micro 5' enough?
QuoteGases monitored: VOCs (PID), H2S, CO, O2, SO2, PH3, NO2, NH3, HCN, Cl2, ClO2, O3 and/or combustibles (0-100% LEL or 0-5.0% methane)
I believe Stirling would already have this at the job with there pumper?
was there any particular reason for the atmospheric monitoring??? or just more wan k?
Permapine log cabin??
Or DRUG CROP
(1/1) 21/06/2008 9:14:37 AM Good morning, Paracombe and TTG are responding to an MVA 2km West of Torrens Hill Road. You can respond if you want! Paracombe LT1 Paracombe: CFS Gumeracha Group Officers Response
This sorta sounds like an invite to a party and not an urgent message for help?
Hey guys, come along if ya wnat, might be able to see some cool stuff...
lol i agree...woulda been easier to ring Comcen to get them paged.
Quote from: Zippy on June 20, 2008, 05:59:22 AM
a 'Micro 5' enough?
QuoteGases monitored: VOCs (PID), H2S, CO, O2, SO2, PH3, NO2, NH3, HCN, Cl2, ClO2, O3 and/or combustibles (0-100% LEL or 0-5.0% methane)
I believe Stirling would already have this at the job with there pumper?
You believe correct! Although apparently you can't use it unless you have done a course the CFS no longer offers - because you need a course to understand what the alarm and flashing red lights mean! ;)
17:59:41 21-06-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: STN No 51 1800 HOUR PAGER TEST, PORT AUGUSTA FIRE STATION MFS Pt Augusta Response
Does this mean that Pt Augusta have an automated system now so firies don't have to go in every night and trip the alarm tests button??
No, they are continually testing the pagers for the next 1800 hours... ;)
One way to stop getting those annoying installation calls... lol
Quote from: 6739264 on June 21, 2008, 06:44:29 PM
Quote from: Zippy on June 20, 2008, 05:59:22 AM
a 'Micro 5' enough?
QuoteGases monitored: VOCs (PID), H2S, CO, O2, SO2, PH3, NO2, NH3, HCN, Cl2, ClO2, O3 and/or combustibles (0-100% LEL or 0-5.0% methane)
I believe Stirling would already have this at the job with there pumper?
You believe correct! Although apparently you can't use it unless you have done a course the CFS no longer offers - because you need a course to understand what the alarm and flashing red lights mean! ;)
Are you talking about Monitor Hazardous Atmosphere course cause theres one in July - Aug sometime. If your just looking to detect something i agree you shouldnt have to do the course, but if your using it in confined space sense you need to be able to intepret what the detector is reading.
1916024 11:55:54 24-06-08 AR81 Cat2 Coast Rd, Port Arthur SAAS Ardrossan
1924962 12:09:58 24-06-08 WL76 Cat2 Coast Rd, Port Arthur SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 12:05:00 24-06-08 MO81 Cat2 Coast Rd, Port Arthur SAAS Road Crash Research
1916042 12:00:39 24-06-08 KA81 Cat 2 - V/A SAAS Kadina
1909210 12:58:45 24-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 24/06/08 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN ST,PORT CLINTON MAP 0 0 0 TG105,COAST RD PORT ARTHUR CAR AND TRUCK,PTWK19 PTCL00 ARDR19 CFS Port Wakefield Response
:-o Someone forget something :|
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew
Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.
Thats really strange because i had a quick glance over the paging and there have been a few jobs down strath way, where Strath SES havent been paged at all. lack of day crews prehaps?
Quote from: JC on June 25, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew
Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.
Looking at the pager code it is probaly ashbourne......maybe one of the deh guys is in the brigade? or someone has the wrong filter on the code?
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on June 25, 2008, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: JC on June 25, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew
Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.
Looking at the pager code it is probaly ashbourne......maybe one of the deh guys is in the brigade? or someone has the wrong filter on the code?
Your on the money Camo :wink:
Quote from: SA Firey on June 25, 2008, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on June 25, 2008, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: JC on June 25, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew
Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.
Looking at the pager code it is probaly ashbourne......maybe one of the deh guys is in the brigade? or someone has the wrong filter on the code?
Your on the money Camo :wink:
it's not Ashbourne (they are 1909030) but could well be the wrong tag saying DEH. The responses to that incident are interesting all round:
1928012 10:20:54 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 10:20,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16,ON TURNOFF BEFORE GREENMAN INN,STR029 SES East Region
1908083 10:20:50 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 10:20,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16,ON TURNOFF BEFORE GREENMAN INN,STR029 SES Strathalbyn
1909029 11:08:19 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:06,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN, ASSIST SES,STBN00 CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909035 11:08:17 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:06,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN, ASSIST SES,STBN00 CFS Strathalbyn Response
1915879 11:13:15 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew
1909029 11:13:13 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909030 11:13:11 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 CFS Ashbourne Response
1909029 11:15:22 25-06-08 MFS: STOP FOR TREE DOWN ASHBOURNE RD ASHBOURNE, , CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909035 11:15:21 25-06-08 MFS: STOP FOR TREE DOWN ASHBOURNE RD ASHBOURNE, , CFS Strathalbyn Response
Could that mystery extra one (tag "DEH", capcode 1915879) perhaps be Forestry? Do Ashbourne brigade have some link with Forestry as far as responses go in that area maybe?
13:34:15 26-06-08 V81 Cat2 15/60 Renown Av, Victor Harbor 309 Q9 SAAS Victor Harbour
13:53:09 26-06-08 V81 HI - HAVE CAT 3 IN LOBETHAL FOR YOU WHEN READY FOR DETAIL SAAS Victor Harbour
Lol....what a potentially long trip.
1909007 15:09:05 26-06-08 Attention Attention: Any members available in area now please ring Captain ASAP on 0400 267 178 CFS Upper Sturt Info
1909053 16:47:33 26-06-08 INFO: CREW REQUIRED SPECIAL SERVICE CALL TREE DOWN BWD CPT HAS INFO. CFS Blackwood Info
:? :? :?
Upper Sturts was nothing to do with blackwoods job, it was something at th station.
12:10:20 27-06-08 BL81 Cat3 Wallace St, Balaklava C55 G7 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Balaklava
12:15:39 27-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 27/06/08 12:14,RESPOND Assist Police,BALAKLAVA CFS,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,AVOID MAIN STREET ON WAY STATION,BALA00 CFS Balaklava Response
Would assume its to do with the ANZ bank being robbed.
Right on the Money COBB
FROM TODAY TALKGROUP 008 ON THE GRN RADIO IS TO BE USED TO ACKNOWLEGE PAGER MESSAGES OR TALK WITH ADELAIDE FIRE. TALKGROUP 007 IS NOW REGION 6 OPERATIONS CHANNEL. R6HQ OPS 27/06/2008 4:28:45 PM CFS R6 Fire Bans Maildrop
20:34:00 27-06-08 I know an Auto Alarm Call is boring to some BUT 4 crew to any fire call is not acceptable. MFS Pt Augusta Response
Maybe even money is no incentive these days?
Thats what I don't get, its money for jam being retained, you may as well go and get the cash, especially if your home, and last time I checked retained have to sort of make an effort or get the boot.
You're soprt of right pumprescue, There is definitely a clause in the employmen contract saying retainees must make it to the station for 50% of the calls, and ride for 50% of the times they make it, but as far as I can see it is up to the individual stations to enforce these.
If getting your quota of firies is difficult, then you are going to be less likely to give someone the flick, as opposed to a station that has a waiting list for people to join (not actually sure if there is a station in this category at the moment tho??)
I doubt its up to the stations as to keeping you or not, the HQ see's the pay sheets, if your number hasn't clocked on for month after month then I think you will be asked to turn your gear in or give a good reasson why you aren't around !
Quote from: safireservice on June 27, 2008, 08:14:16 PM
20:34:00 27-06-08 I know an Auto Alarm Call is boring to some BUT 4 crew to any fire call is not acceptable. MFS Pt Augusta Response
Maybe even money is no incentive these days?
Some retained that I have talked to, have stated that the money you get for responding is less than the money they get from their business/paid-work.
So I think they are more like volunteers because the money incentive is not there.
At something like $21 an hour, most blue collared jobs dont pay that much.
But depending on where you are most blue collared jobs can guarantee more than 2 or three hours worth of work a week...
this is true
Group Officers: Elliot 34 is non operational until further notice. Elliot 24 still non operational. Alerts operators be aware. Use VH MFS or Middleton for Port Elliot calls. Hopefully problem may be fixed within 24 hrs. PE Captain CFS Mundoo Group Officers Info
They can always get the Region Spare 34 from Coromandel Valley :-P
Or a spare mfs appliance from somewhere?? LOL
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)
Quote from: OMGWTF on June 29, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)
Ahh negative to that, wouldn't be smart giving them a truck they haven't trained on or don't know the layout on, smartest thing would be to give them middleton 24 or Mt Compass 34 which that brigade would be familiar with. Or even a Victor group truck they have heaps of them sitting around doing nothing during winter.
But thats just my veiw, up to the GO's as to what they do.
1919072 18:47:39 29-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 29/06/08 18:46,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,ROSS SMITH SECONDARY,HAMPSTEAD RD,NORTHFIELD MAP 94 M 11 TG182,OBJECT THROWN THROUGH WINDOW NOW ON FIRE, BUILDING 2A FROM POLICE SEC,ADL205 31 OAK303 PPT371 APK361 MFS Car 31
unhappy student maybe?? :-o :-o :-o :mrgreen:
Quote1919072 18:47:39 29-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 29/06/08 18:46,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,ROSS SMITH SECONDARY,HAMPSTEAD RD,NORTHFIELD MAP 94 M 11 TG182,OBJECT THROWN THROUGH WINDOW NOW ON FIRE, BUILDING 2A FROM POLICE SEC,ADL205 31 OAK303 PPT371 APK361 MFS Car 31
unhappy student maybe??
the teachers threaten to up the ante in their wage claims............. :-P
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 29, 2008, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: OMGWTF on June 29, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)
Ahh negative to that, wouldn't be smart giving them a truck they haven't trained on or don't know the layout on, smartest thing would be to give them middleton 24 or Mt Compass 34 which that brigade would be familiar with. Or even a Victor group truck they have heaps of them sitting around doing nothing during winter.
But thats just my veiw, up to the GO's as to what they do.
hahaha an expected response...
"they need a truck... no they cant borrow one of ours..."
cant have a truck they havent been trained on or know the layout of...? Goolwa 34 is a real tricky truck is it? being a basic standard issue 34? honestly...... sometimes i sit here and laugh all day...
hmmm, borrow middleton 24....? and therefore empty middleton station. doh, great plan....
looks like coro has given up that 34 judging by some pager messages today...
totally agree with u OMGWTF......
Quote from: OMGWTF on June 30, 2008, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 29, 2008, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: OMGWTF on June 29, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)
Ahh negative to that, wouldn't be smart giving them a truck they haven't trained on or don't know the layout on, smartest thing would be to give them middleton 24 or Mt Compass 34 which that brigade would be familiar with. Or even a Victor group truck they have heaps of them sitting around doing nothing during winter.
But thats just my veiw, up to the GO's as to what they do.
hahaha an expected response...
"they need a truck... no they cant borrow one of ours..."
cant have a truck they havent been trained on or know the layout of...? Goolwa 34 is a real tricky truck is it? being a basic standard issue 34? honestly...... sometimes i sit here and laugh all day...
hmmm, borrow middleton 24....? and therefore empty middleton station. doh, great plan....
looks like coro has given up that 34 judging by some pager messages today...
Middletons given their truck up to port elliot a few times before!!!! it's only 5km either side of middleton to goolwa or port elliot!!!!! And they have the group tanker in the station.
And sorry like alot of brigades we've loaned our truck out to crews not from our brigade and it comes back stuffed.
And yes myself and another member picked that truck up from coro tonight.
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on June 30, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
Middletons given their truck up to port elliot a few times before!!!! it's only 5km either side of middleton to goolwa or port elliot!!!!! And they have the group tanker in the station.
And sorry like alot of brigades we've loaned our truck out to crews not from our brigade and it comes back stuffed.
And yes myself and another member picked that truck up from coro tonight.
yes, im aware of the geographical location of middleton and its surrounding brigades, still your not really fixing a problem by removing there fire appliance...
3 appliances, 3 stations, answer seems obvious to me... the cfs attitude of its "our appliance" needs to go, there all state resources.
you both have very good points.
Yes they are state resources, people need to let go.
but on the other hand some brigades spend hours putting TLC into the trucks in their station and unless the brigade on the other hand have the same morales then the truck receives no care at all!
very interesting issue!
Three things
1, I see merit in both sides of the debate, we were asked to consider lending our primary rescue to another unit until their new one was built & then we would get ours back (I was in another unit at the time but advised the members that this idea sucked!) Eventhough they are a state resource, why should one unit be messed around for the sake of a couple of months? And why should they the get their old one back (which was one of the first in the fleet)instead of a suitable replacement?
2, Why have two appliances gone down in the same brigade with problems that seem major in the middle of the "off peak" season?
3, As the neighbours seem very close why not "man up" on the surrounding brigades trucks (which will cover their area)until theirs are repaired?
Don't know just seems simple issue to fix to me.
cheers
It seems that the simplest issues are never easy to fix...
Maybe we should discuss this idea further??
Or just get over it??
Port Elliot 24 has gone down with a serious plumbing issue ( i Beleive corrosion has led to a hole in the plumbing) which has been considered too expensive to fix. They are earmarked for a new 34 in july?? And their 34 went down with a plumbing issue as well.
Both of these trucks are pushing very close to 20 years of age.
has the issue been passed onto group then further onto Region?
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 01/07/08 11:50,RESPOND Fire Alarm,67-69 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP A A 11 TG182,,STM401 BLP211 ADL204 ADL205 ADL206 AD2090 PPT371 41
Numbers...eat ya heart out...
This has turned out to be a Flooding/Salvage incident. That turned out to be a...i lost track.
Eat my heart out?
Wow...
Its called investigating why the sprinkler system is running, BEFORE shitting yourself and calling in the reinforcements. Its not hard!
haha....sorry i was going by a previous post of yours a few months back...about MFS's alarm responses.
Yeah? I can write really small as well :P
Good on you, moving onnnnn :wink:
13:54:32 01-07-08 (65) THIS IS A LONG TEST MASSAGE FROM STUART AT LINK 0123456789 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ END OF TEST. Link GRN Test Pager
Nice Spam link, wonder whats up?
That was very clever Numbers :-D
FOR INFORMATION WEATHER CONDITIONS MAY CAUSE SEA LEVELS TO BE HIGHER THAN NORMAL OVER THE WEEKEND POSSIBLY HALF A METRE HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST TIDE OF THE YEAR FROM CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
Quote from: Zippy on July 18, 2008, 04:43:55 PM
FOR INFORMATION WEATHER CONDITIONS MAY CAUSE SEA LEVELS TO BE HIGHER THAN NORMAL OVER THE WEEKEND POSSIBLY HALF A METRE HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST TIDE OF THE YEAR FROM CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
look out salisbury....
nah rather look out glenelg AGAIN.
Quote from: Zippy on July 18, 2008, 06:24:25 PM
nah rather look out glenelg AGAIN.
Nope, not in recent times ... toooo many failsafes on the patawalonga and westlake gates now.
Check http://www.dwlbc.sa.gov.au/urban/patawalonga/system/index.html & click on the current levels (warning it takes a long time to update the chart to realtime data)
The tide chart at http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/tides/MAPS/adelaide.shtml does show 2.67m on 20th July at 1747 at Outer Harbor. Basically above 2.6m high tides from tonight to Monday night.
More interested in St Kilda, railyards west of city, showgrounds, torrens rivers and associated creek, airport, etc , for metropolitan flooding.
Because it is still dry, I think the broken water mains is the main flood risk. :lol:
Also, not much wind forecast to create a storm tide or rain to have large outflows through the estuaries or pipes (eg Onkaparinga River).
Sounds like a lot of fishing could be done this weekend......
may have been refering to this?
IDS20235
AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT - BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
SOUTH AUSTRALIA REGIONAL OFFICE
STORM TIDE ADVICE for Gulf St Vincent and Spencer Gulf
Issued at 4:05 pm on Friday, 18 July 2008
The weather conditions are expected to cause sea levels to be higher than
indicated by tide tables during the weekend. Sea levels along parts of Spencer
Gulf and Gulf St Vincent are likely to be around half a metre or more higher
than the highest tide of the year with the afternoon/evening high tides on
Saturday and Sunday.
At the Port Adelaide Outer Harbor tide gauge, sea levels between 3.2 to 3.5
metres [local gauge datum] are possible with the high tides on both Saturday and
Sunday.
This advice will be updated at or before 10:00 am Saturday.
Note: A change in the definition of the datum occurred on 1 January 2001. A tide
level of 3.5 metres in 2001 is equivalent to a tide level of 3.77 metres on the
old scale.
Surfs up dudes 8-) :-P
1909193 16:50:35 25-07-08 NO MORE CALLS DUTY OFFICER IS AWARE MFS IN CFFS AREA WITHOUT NOTIFCATION FROM DUTY OFFICER CFS Dalkeith Info
Is this a real problem?
Don't rip my head off with replys - just curious as we all have "turf problems" & they are the full time service & everyone doesn't always meet the standard 24/7.
so whats the big deal?
cheers
If it happened in reverse heads would roll!
Yeah true,however it happens to us all - for example early last Wednesday morning a major MVA happened deep within our turf but we didn't get responded ADL fire called Moorook, Glossop & Barmera CFS, Barmera SES and ambulances as far away as Renmark yet Berri SAMFS & us weren't invited! (I know it's not strickly MFS area but they were the closest)
I know for a fact that if the shoe was on the other foot those concerned would cut sick :-D (It's happened before & at least we had the courtisy of telling them!) I'm not sure if the new unit manager will do anything- nolonger not my problem.
All I was asking is this such a big deal? As they have trouble getting crews occasionally.
cheers
maybe we could think about it the otherway, if we dont get responded..its a good thing because we can go about our lives as normal....
They gets enough calls as it is... dont know why they need to have a hissy fit... Is it just getting to there heads???
Not wrong Zippy, it was filtered freezing last Wednesday morning :-D I wasn't upset we were not called was a warmer in bed :-D
cheers
I suppose it just comes down to common courtesy and correct procedure i.e notifying the respective service of the event.
I wouldn't get to concerned about it, are those same 100 people ringing up going to turn out so they don't consistently fail to respond, CFS people like that really annoy me, they are quick to carry on when something like this happens but you never see them when the truck needs to get out the door at 3am.
Who knows it could have been a road that led onto a CFS area, might have been a nothing call, why turn someone else out, just deal with. I am sure if 421 went to a call in 43's area they aren't going to ring each other and cry. Worry about getting out the door to the calls you DO get responded to :x
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response
Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response
In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response
12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response
no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though
Quote from: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response
Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response
In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.
is it going to the dogs at the moment??? lol...thats the third brigade to be walked over now...
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response
Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response
In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.
is it going to the dogs at the moment??? lol...thats the third brigade to be walked over now...
must be. anyone care to expand on why the mfs are on passive duty? that boms system we work off must be 1st class :-D
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
Quote from: 6739264 on July 28, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
As stated before if the shoe were on the other foot, watch the sparks fly then!
QuoteAh christ, as long as a truck turns up...
yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be. they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.
Quote from: safireservice on July 28, 2008, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on July 28, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
As stated before if the shoe were on the other foot, watch the sparks fly then!
You mean if CFS responded into MFS area then Stopped the MFS because it was a nothing call there would be sparks? I highly doubt there would be any issue - most of the SAMFS guys I've met have no problems with being logical.
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
QuoteAh christ, as long as a truck turns up...
yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be. they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.
And a whole lot of people on this forum evidently...
QuoteAnd a whole lot of people on this forum evidently...
only because we observe these things occuring, thanks to the internet...putting our feet in there shoes i would be getting less motivated to respond to real jobs, if there is another service that can easily do the same job....scheiße would then hit the fan when that 'other service' isnt available...
Jesus, I still don't get why there is an issue beyond "You got to have some fun and we didn't" It has happened to me before, where we have attended a job, and on our way back to our station, we have come across another job, a few hundred meters from the local CFS station. It was a minor MVA, your usual "Apply medical treatment untill the ambos arrive" gig. Our pump had things quite in hand, yet the 'other' station blew up as they weren't invited to the job. We gave their captain a courtesy call once we had returned to station, he was not a happy boy.
Given that the incident is delt with in a timely and professional manner, what is the problem? You see people cracking the shits about minor MVA's and bin fires etc etc - I don't understand it.
So if a CFS crew were in MFS area, came across a job, dealt with it and went home without notifying them, it would be ok. I dont think so. Have been down that road, we notified then on return to station (all it involved was about 5 m2 grass, comms cracked the shits and sent an appliance out to the area to "check it out" So there would be no issues? Bullshit.
Quote from: 029 on July 28, 2008, 12:13:30 PM
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response
12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response
no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though
Glendambo don't have GRN coverage, hence the lack of callsign in there. ITs all phone calls out there.
What would happen if the CFS truck was way out of area say Piccadilly CFS visiting the airport and we came across a nice bin fire on the way home Which we see no MFS in attendance yet so we call it in to Ad fire and get to work. Is that not our duty?
Or should we just drive past and go not our turf, and then when it spreads into exposures and becomes a factory fire.......
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
QuoteAh christ, as long as a truck turns up...
yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be. they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.
Can I ask how you have proof they are playing around with the responses ?
I don't think the Comms staff go out of their way to mess with responses.
If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway.
Also last time I checked BOMS isn't smart enough to work out where the middle of the road is, the Salisbury MFS crew did the right thing and realised its in CFS area and told comms, and comms turned out CFS.
I think you all need to worry about making sure your own brigades get on the road, I reckon most people's brigades consistently fail to respond or take 10 mins plus to turn out. You only have to watch the pager site, how many "more crews" and then defaults do you see. I think MFS should be treated nicely as they are covering a LOT of backsides at the moment, look at the major brigades they are covering North and South, I would be very nice to them. If they want to push it you might have lots of spare time to go fishing !
"If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway"
How do you know they could not turn out? They could of rolled a truck and were wanting more people in station for radio's, second appliance etc, there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
Quote from: G D on July 28, 2008, 02:37:10 PM
"If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway"
How do you know they could not turn out? They could of rolled a truck and were wanting more people in station for radio's, second appliance etc, there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
Good point, none of those pages i can see say "we cant turn out". You area brilliant pumprescue, at reading something into something thats not there.
Yeah no worries guys, if only you knew how much I know.......... :wink:
thanks about glandambo but i reckon i have seen a page for them once beroe but could be mistaken
how many people on here understand the new pager codes ie coob00 mnsh42
im still trying to work it out i know that 00 is fire appliance
19 is fire rescue 029 is ses rescue (includes RCR) 020 is ses rescue (no RCR)
where can i get a list of codes so that i can educate my self and team so we know what is comming and where it is from?????
CFS/SES Codes
00 Fire
19 Fire and/or Rescue
20 SES Rescue/Salvage
28 Fire and/or Hazmat
29 SES RCR/Rescue/Salvage
42 Fire and/or Bulk Water Carrier
50 SES State duty officer
55 CFS State Air Desk
There was a callsign used for Glendambo, but it doesn't go anywhere, so no longer used.
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 01:08:56 PMQuote from: G D on July 28, 2008, 02:37:10 PM
there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
A good bit of advice perhaps a few ppl on this site seem to forget.... But then again what would we talk about then?
thanks zippy
Quote from: bittenyakka on July 28, 2008, 02:29:33 PM
What would happen if the CFS truck was way out of area say Piccadilly CFS visiting the airport and we came across a nice bin fire on the way home Which we see no MFS in attendance yet so we call it in to Ad fire and get to work. Is that not our duty?
Or should we just drive past and go not our turf, and then when it spreads into exposures and becomes a factory fire.......
We were bringing our 24P back from NE Isuzu one day when we came across a MVA outside Mitsubishies at Lonsdale. We assisted with patient care and making the cars safe until SAAS arrived, and in the meantime our LT got on to SHQ who turned out St Mary's. When they got there they were surprised we turned them out at all and couldn't care if we hadn't!
Quote from: 029 on July 28, 2008, 02:53:10 PM
thanks about glandambo but i reckon i have seen a page for them once beroe but could be mistaken
how many people on here understand the new pager codes ie coob00 mnsh42
im still trying to work it out i know that 00 is fire appliance
19 is fire rescue 029 is ses rescue (includes RCR) 020 is ses rescue (no RCR)
where can i get a list of codes so that i can educate my self and team so we know what is comming and where it is from?????
This will also help you out with codes :wink: http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/Brigade%20short%20name%20codes%20final.pdf
thanks sa firey
Quote from: 029 on July 28, 2008, 12:13:30 PM
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response
12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response
no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though
It was a long drive! Sent 2 Ambulances from Woomera, got back on station around 1700.
Guys there seems some interservice crap again so I thought I would share with you a task that SAMFS, CFS & SES (Berri, Monash Tanker, Berri boat, latter joined by Renmark Boat). So share the love :wink: cheers
Yeah good mate. Initially the SAMFS guys attacked form the top. We were the requested to launch the boat to assist with preventing the spread along the river bank. We decided to deploy our portable pump rather than the flotation (more reliable & quieter). Once the spread to the south was contained, it was decided to place the ROSA down on the river bank (20-30 mtrs away) & relay to 609 which then had an almost endless supply of water, they deployed hp lines to blackout from above. In the mean time 601 & Chaffey tanker were at the northern end to deal with that. It was decided to speed things up a bit another boat was required, so Renmark was requested. Once the boat crews had stopped the spread, the firefighters left the boats and proceeded to blackout using the portable pumps. Task was completed at about 20:00 hrs. An excellent job by all & it gave me an opportunity to say a goodbye to people I might not see before I leave :cry:
Now before anyone asks, it was decided by the DGO on scene to use the resources already on site rather than calling "other people".
It was a pleasure to be a part of the job.
cheers
this site is so good for a giggle!!!
correct me if im wrong (i dont think im wrong) when mfs get a call the put in the suburb then street and what it is or in reverse,
there is no need to entry appliance (cfs or mfs) as we all have gone over our responce area and told/corrected who or what goes where
in this car when the comms officer put in heaslip road road it would have come up with eather salisbury or virgina responce with maybe mfs back up.
so how then if the comms officers dont change the responces did neather get responded???? :? :? :? :?
ill tell you why comms officers have no idea.!!
my ideas only
If you take a closer look at the mystical MFS cad software, it is easily possible to change the "recommended" response. i believe that ability has to exist simply to add extra brigades/appliances, or change obviously wrong responses.
Imo, they do an alright job, but like everything, they could be better.
Trust me, if you put that address in the MFS dispatch system, it comes up MFS only, as it abutts the Airforce base. If there is an issue take it up through the usual channels, its right on the CFS/MFS boundary.
MFS: *CFSRES INC023 02/08/08 09:41,RESPOND To,PICCADILLY RD,PICCADILLY MAP 145 H 2 TG126,CONTACT MR GEOFF GREENOW 0411 616 016, A,T NETBALL CLUB RE AN ISSUE WITH TOILETS,RESULTING IN A PUBLIC HYGIENE ISSUE,PCCY00 CFS Piccadilly Response
WTF? Dont plumbers work on saturdays? or at least the SES? haha just kidding
If its a big enough issue to call the Fire Brigade, dare I suggest that it should be a Hazmat job? Or atleast have a single Hazmat station turned out?
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
And there I went, jumping the gun, forgetting all about the community assistance aspect.
I'm too jaded.
Quote from: Zippy on August 02, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
Back in my day, everyone knew how to use a garden hose...
Quote from: CFS_Firey on August 02, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: Zippy on August 02, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
Back in my day, everyone knew how to use a garden hose...
Water restrictions, you environmental vandal!
Quote from: 6739264 on August 02, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: CFS_Firey on August 02, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: Zippy on August 02, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
Back in my day, everyone knew how to use a garden hose...
Water restrictions, you environmental vandal!
and I have heard of CFS brigades being told off for squirting water during training while the drought/restrictions exist....so now they use the CFS to bypass the water restrictions ???? It sounds like the SES being called to trim a 'significant tree' because it might drop a limb, so that the owners can bypass the council restrictions...filtered :-o
Roger crap extinguished using one HP line :-P
REGION 1 CONDUCTING RECRUITMENT STRATGIES TRAINING MON.NIGHT 8PM START AT KANGARAILLA STATION ALL INTERESTED PERSON.WELCOME - GTO CFS Mawson Group Info
LYNDOCH & CONCORDIA 34'S AT INCIDENT. SINGLE VEHICLE LOST CONTROL AND HIT FENCE. NO FUEL OR LPG LEAK. POLICE ON SCENE. LYNDOCH STATION
Thanks for the notice, why dont they list everything that isnt on scene? We've had discussions before about them saying about what is happening, and it seems somewhat reasonable, if not annoying that they send messages about everything that is going on, and now there are messages about what they are not finding on scene...
footy, personally i think its rubbish that they put out all these pager messages.... but considering they were turned out to a vehicle leaking gas, maybe that info is relevant ;)
And if we didn't have a pager scanner, you wouldn't have your nose out of joint right now.
If your brigade is the one that does it and you don't like it, take it up with the capt/comms officer.
RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,FARTCH ST,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0 TG195,FOR SALE SIGN ON FIRE CALL FROM NO.5,SAIR55 MTG701
Oooh, hot property! :lol:
Get out.
Did this:
MFS: *CFSRES INC020 07/08/08 09:59,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,LARGE OIL SPILL ON ROAD BETWEEN,YANKALILLA & MYPO. ASSIST YANKALILLA,YANK19
Have anything to do with this:
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 07/08/08 10:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,OUTSIDE YANKAPONGA,YANK19 MYPN00
oh dear..
Oil Spills Galore this past winter :|
15:27:13 07-08-08 Anyone available to present at MART course Brukunga this Sun please phone Dave ASAP SAAS Group (SOT)
MART went quiet for a while ey?
Quote from: Footy on August 07, 2008, 12:38:36 PM
Did this:
MFS: *CFSRES INC020 07/08/08 09:59,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,LARGE OIL SPILL ON ROAD BETWEEN,YANKALILLA & MYPO. ASSIST YANKALILLA,YANK19
Have anything to do with this:
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 07/08/08 10:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,OUTSIDE YANKAPONGA,YANK19 MYPN00
Certainly did Footy, 2 cars involved in that one and another one just out of yamkalilla earleir on
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 09/08/08 03:00,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,43 LIGHTHOUSE DR,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 F
12 TG182,P3 - CAR INTO FRONT ROOM OF HOUSE - NO F,URTHER RISK,CDN439 NOA029 OHH421
MFS: CREWS NOT REQUIRED AT HALLET COVE - STOP CALL
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 09/08/08 04:25,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,43 LIGHTHOUSE DR,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 F
12,P3 - NOW REQUIRED ON SCENE FROM POLICE,NOA029
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 09/08/08 08:24,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,44 LIGHTHOUSE DR,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 F
12 TG182,P3 CAR INTO HOUSE CALL FROM SAPOL,CDN439 NOA029 OHH421
I love it when these jobs happen, MFS say SES not required, police overide and say they are or had the MFS pissed off by then and bits started falling down? Also was the later job the same job as earlier or a completely different one?
Maybe the crews turned out to number 43, couldnt see anything then went home, but didnt realise the dirty big car sticking out of the side of the wall next door... lol
or the house is now located at number 44 due to the big shunt from the car?
That would mean it has been shunted across the road :-D
Quite simple - no fire no smoke no entrapment - SAMFS/CFSSA not interested!
Big hole in wall, looks dangerous, residents concerned that further damage may occur - SAPOL interested! (think public safety :wink: ).
Just remember that SESSA are the Lead Agency for structural damage therefore any decision to Stop a crew should be left to the SES DO.
If it were me I would be putting in a grievance form, so correct protocols can be developed & followed. And at the end of the day SAPOL are the coordinating authority so before any team is stood down or Stop called wouldn't it make sense to ask them first?
Just my thoughts
cheers
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily. Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances. For the rest, its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.
Yep a very stupid decision that was made by our service chiefs when GRN was introduced!
And the same situation will continue until the heads of the Fire services officially acknowledge the role of the SESSA & the SESSA start planning for stuff other than USARCat2.
Similar organisations in NSW can talk to each other with a push of a button on their GRN handsets.
It is a very poor state of affairs when we can't talk to each oth by radio!.
cheers
Quote from: chook on August 10, 2008, 08:30:52 PM
Quite simple - no fire no smoke no entrapment - SAMFS/CFSSA not interested!
Big hole in wall, looks dangerous, residents concerned that further damage may occur - SAPOL interested! (think public safety :wink: ).
Just remember that SESSA are the Lead Agency for structural damage therefore any decision to Stop a crew should be left to the SES DO.
Not so Ken.
Structural damage equates to being a USAR, which SAMFS & SASES are both listed as control agencies for.
Your point would remain valid however if this were a SACFS/SASES response.
Yep fair call :oops: However I have noticed that the fire services tend not to worry about temp shoring if there is no entrapment where as SES will shore to prevent further damage.
But this seems to be happening a fair bit, hopefully the problem will be soughted sooner rather than latter.
cheers
Good luck getting anything sorted with the MFS, anyways all i wanted to know if it was the same job cause they happened a fair while after each other, ie 3am amd 824am and they dont carry the same incident number either.
Quote from: Zippy on August 10, 2008, 08:49:28 PM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily. Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances. For the rest, its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.
That is because Sturt are the airstrip crew for Cherry Gardens Zippy :wink:
Easy way to solve that is tell Adelaide Fire to get them to go to a Multi Agency Talkgroup eg TG037 for communicating with us.Alternatively have a STOP CALL page sent via Adelaide Fire :wink:
Quote from: chook on August 10, 2008, 08:56:29 PM
And the same situation will continue until the heads of the Fire services officially acknowledge the role of the SESSA & the SESSA start planning for stuff other than USARCat2.
The fire services acknowledged the SES's role with storm damage, and look where that got the community (atleast in the metro area). We now have a degraded capability to respond to storm and tempest incidents, with jobs backing up until the SES decided to invite the fire services to help, by which time there is already a ridiculous backlog of work to be done.
Quote from: chook on August 10, 2008, 08:56:29 PM
Similar organisations in NSW can talk to each other with a push of a button on their GRN handsets.
It is a very poor state of affairs when we can't talk to each oth by radio!.
cheers
I was under the impression that this was an issue country wide, with most agencies unable to talk to each other unless by local arrangement or on a multi-agency/disaster recovery channel?
Quote from: Zippy on August 10, 2008, 08:49:28 PM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily. Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances. For the rest, its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.
CFS is well aware of these problems, and has tried to address them, but given it is an inter-agency thing it all takes time (far too long but that's govt!). Hopefully things will change in the future (still talking at least a year or more away though).
Quote from: SA Firey on August 11, 2008, 10:09:54 AM
That is because Sturt are the airstrip crew for Cherry Gardens Zippy :wink:
Easy way to solve that is tell Adelaide Fire to get them to go to a Multi Agency Talkgroup eg TG037 for communicating with us.Alternatively have a STOP CALL page sent via Adelaide Fire :wink:
037 is simplex so not that one, just request a MA talkgroup and you will be allocated one. I have heard group officers ask Adelaide Fire for one in the past when there were multiple SES and CFS operating in the group area, it works well and should be done more often.
TG037 should work in the same manner as TG182 for MFS...you just need to be within a reasonable distance for simplex UHF communication to reach your radio.
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/08/08 14:31,RESPOND RCR,REGENCY RD,KILKENNY MAP 105 C 5 TG182,CNR TORRENS RD,18 WHEEL SEMI ROLLOVER,41
Dang!..and supposedly driver trapped.
18 wheeler?
whatever happened to a 40 footer? DAMN YANKEES!!
Maybe you are right Numbers but when I was in a NSW SES vehicle the local guy explained that if you wanted to talk to RFS push this button, NSWFB push this button, CB this button etc. Also rescue is despatched by police comms (VKG?), so interoperatability would seem more likely. And you are right Multi agency is great when its used, just takes a bit of planning to use it (i.e need to contact SAPOL comms) & people seem a bit reluctant to use it.
On the storm/ tempest thing it's legislated so the fire services acknowledging the role didn't need to happen - remember it's the control agency so any agency can be on the front line. But you are right again it's senior service members protecting turf. And thats all about protecting your funding base :wink:
cheers
Jeez Chook (VKG)?.............havent heard that sorta thing since Paul Cronin on Matlock police back in the mid to late 70s, when he'd be belting along on his police bike uttering the classic line "VKC to Shirl" over the police radio, bout that time mum would come in the room and tell me its time to putya jimjams on and go to bed! :-D
We don't use the alarm response protocol anymore, its simply "Calling all cars, Calling all cars!"
Jeez mate you & I must be the same age :-D I remember that too!
But seriously, I'm sure thats what they call police comms - I filtered you not!
(Met Paul Cronin once at a show in Melbourne when Iwas a kid :wink: )
However I will double check & get back with the correct answer.
And here it is straight from the NSW State Rescue policy 2007 "Police Communications (VKG) Rescue Coordination Officer(RCO) as soon as possible."
cheers
Quote from: Zippy on August 11, 2008, 02:20:57 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/08/08 14:31,RESPOND RCR,REGENCY RD,KILKENNY MAP 105 C 5 TG182,CNR TORRENS RD,18 WHEEL SEMI ROLLOVER,41
Dang!..and supposedly driver trapped.
Not so Zippy I was there pictures you know where :wink:
Quote from: Darius on August 11, 2008, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: Zippy on August 10, 2008, 08:49:28 PM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily. Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances. For the rest, its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.
CFS is well aware of these problems, and has tried to address them, but given it is an inter-agency thing it all takes time (far too long but that's govt!). Hopefully things will change in the future (still talking at least a year or more away though).
Quote from: SA Firey on August 11, 2008, 10:09:54 AM
That is because Sturt are the airstrip crew for Cherry Gardens Zippy :wink:
Easy way to solve that is tell Adelaide Fire to get them to go to a Multi Agency Talkgroup eg TG037 for communicating with us.Alternatively have a STOP CALL page sent via Adelaide Fire :wink:
037 is simplex so not that one, just request a MA talkgroup and you will be allocated one. I have heard group officers ask Adelaide Fire for one in the past when there were multiple SES and CFS operating in the group area, it works well and should be done more often.
Errrr if you read my post it was an example not gospel :-P
A good example of fixed alarms coming true
1909187 11:02:24 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 12/08/08 11:02,RESPOND ALARM 35/025,ANGLE VALE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTRE,121 HEATHSLIP RD,ANGLE VALE MAP TG102,FIP NORTH ENTRANCE TO FOODLAND,,DALK19 VIRG19 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1909188 11:05:31 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 12/08/08 11:05,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,SHOP11 HEASLIP RD,ANGLE VALE MAP 31 E 9 TG102,CALL FROM PREMISES. CONFIRMED FIRE IN HA,IR SALON. 121 HEATHSLIP ROAD,DALK19 VIRG19 CFS Dalkeith Response
safireservice
it was the same job as far as i know he was a hot topic at a course on the weekend
yes there was structure damage and yes there was a need for the SES and the incident is being investigated as to why a stop was put on norlunga
1908036 17:13:37 13-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 13/08/08 17:13,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,138 MORPHETT RD,GLENGOWRIE MAP 140 P 3 TG182,CAR PUB MORPHETT ARMS HOTEL,MIT020 STM409 CPK411 SES Metro South Response
1924962 17:13:15 13-08-08 M171 Cat2 Os138 Morphett Rd, Glengowrie 140 P3 SAAS Road Crash Research
Wrong entrance to the drive thru??
And...
48 Contacted MFS & Police ComCen as Job details were again neglected to be sent through with task details SES Metro South Response
Ehhh....what more is there to know? Theres a build impact..Car Vs Hotel...Morphett Arms Hotel. Done..go!
And there isn't unlimited space on the pagers, hence why we ring in !!
Trust me, sometimes what SAPOL say and what is ACTUALLY happening are very different. I can remember going to a call recently, comms said SAPOL advise just a fuel spill. we rock up, 2 persons trapped. But I guess there was a spillage, so they weren't entirley wrong.
just a few words like wall collapsed or shoring required can make all the difference in an SES response as to do they need extra gear
we get the other problem of CFS not reading the entire page
read details dont read who is coming so when its hamley bridge 19 (cant remember short code) and kap029 they dont read it
we rock up with all the bling on and find out we were never required and CFS defence is we didnt know you were comming you show them on the pager and they go oh sorry but mistakes happen and we all get over it
so drink a cup of cement and harden the .... up
Quote from: Zippy on August 13, 2008, 05:15:57 PM
And...
48 Contacted MFS & Police ComCen as Job details were again neglected to be sent through with task details SES Metro South Response
Someone needs a tissue hey... ;)
Quote from: pumprescue on August 14, 2008, 07:05:46 AM
And there isn't unlimited space on the pagers, hence why we ring in !!
Trust me, sometimes what SAPOL say and what is ACTUALLY happening are very different. I can remember going to a call recently, comms said SAPOL advise just a fuel spill. we rock up, 2 persons trapped. But I guess there was a spillage, so they weren't entirley wrong.
Does that usually mean the call came from SAPOL comcen, and hence will be as accurate as info from any other comcen?
Many a times ive receieved a page saying "From Sapol"..majority of the crew thinks SAPOL is already on scene. When the case is actually.."Information recieved by SAPOL Comcen".
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 15/08/08 07:16,RESPOND To,DIESEL SPILL PRINCES HWY,TANTANOOLA MAP 000 0 0 TG231,5KM EAST OF KIMBERLY CLARK MILL,TANT00 MILL28 CFS Tantanoola Response
Can anybody see what i see? Good stuff Adelaide Fire. :-)
A bit like this one eh Zippy?
MFS: *CFSRES INC009 15/08/08 06:45,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PHILLIP HWY & HOGARTH RD,ELIZABETH VALE MAP 61 P 9 TG182,FROM SAAS SPILLAGE ONLY,ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
:-D
CFSRES INC025 15/08/08 10:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,7 OTAGA CT,NOARLUNGA DOWNS MAP 185 Q 15 TG134,,MRPH00 SEAF00 CDN431
MULTIPLE CALLS BEING RECEIVED FOR THIS JOB, GOING WELL APPARENTLY - LT1 Matthew Bonser
*CFSRES: EXTRA CREW REQUIRED RESPOND SEAFORD STATION 15-08-08 10:37
CFSRES INC025 15/08/08 10:38,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,7 OTAGA CT,NOARLUNGA DOWNS MAP 185 Q 15 TG134,MCLAREN VALE RESPOND, DEFAULT FOR MORHPH,ETT VALE,MCLV00 MRPH00
MFS: MCLAREN VALE ** STOP CALL** MORPHETT VALE NOW ACKNOWLEDGED
MRPH: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND M/ VALE STATION 15-08-08 10:38
going fire respond station - SEAFORD STATION
seen a fair bit on crewing issues on here lately...anyone know if this the case here or just a bit of confusion??
There was a bit of confusion with this job, initially it was treated as CFS area, then it was changed to MFS area, then back to CFS area and finally they left it at MFS area - interestingly the CFS map books show it as being in CFS area. The house was pretty close to the boundary but the line goes through a paddock behind the houses not a house or road.
Morphett Vale and Seaford and MFS were on the initial page, Morphett Vale only had three crew at the four minute mark so we requested Mclaren Vale to respond. At the six minute mark Morphett Vale 24P responded with five crew, Seaford Pumper also responded. MFS arrived and upgraded the initial response so Morphett Vale 24 also responded with a crew and extra BA operators as well as an extra MFS pump.
House was going end to end when crews arrived, two BA operators from Morphett Vale teamed up with two from MFS to go in and do a primary search and exinguishment. Pretty much your standard house fire with lots of damage and an occupant with smoke inhalation. Happy Valley were also responded for a Change of Quarters to Morphett Vale to cover the Seaford and Morphett Vale areas.
In the end it was left with MFS as they wanted to claim it as their area and our guys were happy to leave them to overhaul all day with fire cause.
Standard level of confusion but at least we managed to get a couple of trucks out the door from our station, hopefully with our new batch of recruits now on the trucks things should be ok for us.
14:49:13 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC033 15/08/08 14:47,RESPOND RCR,HAY RD,MEADOWS MAP 000 0 0 TG128,ON MT EPHRAM RD ONE PERSON ENTRAPPED LEG,S PINNED CAR VS,MDWS19 MBKR19 BKCR00
Have noticed this quite a bit lately. Are Meadows light on for trained operators (RCR)? Or just light on for crew in general?? Every MVA seems to be with Barker..
Ive been told that at the moment they are unable to garaunee a rescue crew... and have done the responsible thing by organising all of there rescue/VA responses to include the second rescue on initial turnout.
Seems to have increased the workload of blackwood and mt barker dramatically.
Quote from: Zippy on August 15, 2008, 07:54:07 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 15/08/08 07:16,RESPOND To,DIESEL SPILL PRINCES HWY,TANTANOOLA MAP 000 0 0 TG231,5KM EAST OF KIMBERLY CLARK MILL,TANT00 MILL28 CFS Tantanoola Response
Can anybody see what i see? Good stuff Adelaide Fire. :-)
I don't think i'm seeing what you are...
Am i being really slow or what?
RESPOND To,DIESEL SPILL PRINCES HWY,TANTANOOLA
Diesel Spill in the "Street Number" Field of MFS-CAD.
also wattle range ses instead of cfs were paged....although i dont believe the ses received the page....unless my pdw skipped a beat?
This is where it gets confusing, when talking about CFS 28 in the callsign is Hazmat, just to make things clear as mud !
28 is CFS hazmat Camo, But Millicent didnt receive the page by the looks, hence the manual page turnout.
Quote from: mattb on August 15, 2008, 12:54:57 PM
There was a bit of confusion with this job, initially it was treated as CFS area, then it was changed to MFS area, then back to CFS area and finally they left it at MFS area - interestingly the CFS map books show it as being in CFS area. The house was pretty close to the boundary but the line goes through a paddock behind the houses not a house or road.
Morphett Vale and Seaford and MFS were on the initial page, Morphett Vale only had three crew at the four minute mark so we requested Mclaren Vale to respond. At the six minute mark Morphett Vale 24P responded with five crew, Seaford Pumper also responded. MFS arrived and upgraded the initial response so Morphett Vale 24 also responded with a crew and extra BA operators as well as an extra MFS pump.
House was going end to end when crews arrived, two BA operators from Morphett Vale teamed up with two from MFS to go in and do a primary search and exinguishment. Pretty much your standard house fire with lots of damage and an occupant with smoke inhalation. Happy Valley were also responded for a Change of Quarters to Morphett Vale to cover the Seaford and Morphett Vale areas.
In the end it was left with MFS as they wanted to claim it as their area and our guys were happy to leave them to overhaul all day with fire cause.
Standard level of confusion but at least we managed to get a couple of trucks out the door from our station, hopefully with our new batch of recruits now on the trucks things should be ok for us.
Sounds like ya did well in circumstance...well done
1908021 19:55:26 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 15/08/08 19:53,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MAIN RD,CHERRY GARDENS MAP 167 A 8 TG146,PERSONS CAR CAUGHT IN CAR PARK AT BLACK,WOOD GOLF CLUB. ADAM **********.,P3.,BKWD19 STT020 CHRY00
*scratches head*
Big response for a locked gate
Quote from: Dave O on August 15, 2008, 07:50:34 PM
1908021 19:55:26 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 15/08/08 19:53,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MAIN RD,CHERRY GARDENS MAP 167 A 8 TG146,PERSONS CAR CAUGHT IN CAR PARK AT BLACK,WOOD GOLF CLUB. ADAM **********.,P3.,BKWD19 STT020 CHRY00
*scratches head*
Big response for a locked gate
What a waste of resources, call security and pay the opening fee cretin :roll:
Quote from: uniden on August 15, 2008, 06:30:50 PM
28 is CFS hazmat Camo, But Millicent didnt receive the page by the looks, hence the manual page turnout.
d'oh.....29 is ses!
Quote from: SA Firey on August 15, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: Dave O on August 15, 2008, 07:50:34 PM
1908021 19:55:26 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 15/08/08 19:53,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MAIN RD,CHERRY GARDENS MAP 167 A 8 TG146,PERSONS CAR CAUGHT IN CAR PARK AT BLACK,WOOD GOLF CLUB. ADAM **********.,P3.,BKWD19 STT020 CHRY00
*scratches head*
Big response for a locked gate
What a waste of resources, call security and pay the opening fee cretin :roll:
Surely more to it than a locked gate. If that's all it was, then why was ANY agency bothered, let alone Rescue, Pump and SES!!! Maybe just Sapol to 'TIN' for being a dhead.
Nope just a locked gate, someone needs a rocket for sending that out, what a joke....
This may have been asked before- but what trips the " SAAS Road Crash Research" page?
1924962 00:09:15 16-08-08 BA178 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 00:09:02 16-08-08 LX188 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Road Crash Research
1916011 00:09:00 16-08-08 LX188 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Loxton
1924962 00:08:49 16-08-08 BA178 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Road Crash Research
1916007 00:08:47 16-08-08 BA178 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Barmera
Someone must have hit the wrong button, or someone has made one hell of a mistake! No fire No rescue, Unless of course there is a new way of responding crews & I haven't heard about it. And yes I know it was a busy night.
Anyway I'm sure someone will have an answer that makes sense.
cheers
Quote from: chook on August 16, 2008, 09:09:19 AM
This may have been asked before- but what trips the " SAAS Road Crash Research" page?
it's an automatically generated page if the VA box is tagged -it's part of the Adelaide Uni road crash research unit
Thanks BM
Cheers
Quote from: boredmatrix on August 16, 2008, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: chook on August 16, 2008, 09:09:19 AM
This may have been asked before- but what trips the " SAAS Road Crash Research" page?
it's an automatically generated page if the VA box is tagged -it's part of the Adelaide Uni road crash research unit
Also, the VA box might be ticked for incidents that involve vehicles, but aren't necessarily an MVA, (Like person hit by car, fallen off bike on a road etc), so Fire/Rescue might need to be responded.
or my favourite.....
Oldie falls out of gopher....
....uninjured, but it tags out at category 2 for an MVA!
Yeah for some reason anything with wheels is put in as an MVA, pushbike, Gopher, skateboard.
As long as it occurs on a road...the page doesn't seem to appear when there is, say a motorbike crash in a paddock, on private property......
And the Road Accident Research people look at crashes involving vehicles (eg cars, trucks, motorbikes, push bike riders) as well as pedestrians (eg those walking around as well and "gopher" type pedestrians. - Under legislation, gophers are defined as pedestrians...)
Pip
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 16/08/08 14:15,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MENGLERS HILL RD,TANUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG095,BUS HAS ROLLE DOWN HILL AND IS PINNING,3 CASUALTIES AGAINST WALL AT LOOKOUT,TAND00 NTPA19 CFS Nuriootpa Response
Sounds a bit exciting...
I bet for at least three people it aint too exciting. I hope no one was badly hurt.
Quote from: calspec on August 16, 2008, 07:56:23 PM
I bet for at least three people it aint too exciting. I hope no one was badly hurt.
And what part of being pinned to a wall by a bus would you find boring and dull?
16-08-08 OH181 Cat7 Panalatinga Rd, Woodcroft 177 D12 SAAS Road Crash Research
Havent seen a cat 7 before
Cat 7 is standby at location, believe the incident is a double fatality. :-(
Quote from: CFS_Firey on August 16, 2008, 08:02:27 PM
Quote from: calspec on August 16, 2008, 07:56:23 PM
I bet for at least three people it aint too exciting. I hope no one was badly hurt.
And what part of being pinned to a wall by a bus would you find boring and dull?
All of it, if your the poor victim!
Frightening, Painful - Yes, but no, not exciting. As a Firefighter I'm sure it would get my adrenalin pumping, as I am sure it would have for those who were trapped, but I still wouldn't call it exciting.
Report in the Sunday Mail says three people hospitalised after being knocked off a ledge when the bus hit them after rolling down the hill. Fortunately all escaped with only minor injuries. "It is beleived a handbrake problem on the bus may have been the cause of the accident"
1905655 21:02:45 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 15/08/08 21:01,RESPOND SHED FIRE,19 IDA ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 Q 8 TG195,SHED AT REAR OF PREMISES,MBR721 MFS Murray Bridge Response
1905655 22:37:00 16-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 16/08/08 22:36,RESPOND SHED FIRE,5A IDA ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 Q 8 TG195,,MBR721 MFS Murray Bridge Response
Popular street for shed fires this weekend :|
Quote from: uniden on August 16, 2008, 08:22:18 PM
16-08-08 OH181 Cat7 Panalatinga Rd, Woodcroft 177 D12 SAAS Road Crash Research
Havent seen a cat 7 before
Cat 7 is used to log vehicle movements.
Quote from: G D on August 16, 2008, 08:36:45 PM
Cat 7 is standby at location, believe the incident is a double fatality. :-(
Panalatinga is starting to tally up a few fatalities. And from what I have seen, the only strategy that has been put in place is to put red light/speed cameras on the corner of Pimpala Road.
The double fatality was 500m up the road from where another fatality was only a few months ago. I know that there are roads everywhere that are hot spots for this sort of thing, but Panalatinga to my knowledge (i grew up in that area) has only recently become an area of concern (well should be).
Im not sure if you can fill me in mattb about any apparent rise in accidents, being from that area,
but I really hope that the responsible authorities really take a good look before it gets out of hand.
MFS: *CFSRES INC028 16/08/08 13:46,RESPOND To,OIL SPILL WOOLSHED ST,BORDERTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG230,OIL SPILT ON ROAD OUTSIDE THE FOOTY GROU,NDS,BDTN00
not necessarily a interesting job...seems to be a good thing i believe tho, provides an incident type when there isnt a preset one.
MFS: *CFSRES INC032 16/08/08 14:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,INT. GOLDSMITH DR & NEW HONEYPOT RD,NOARLUNGA DOWNS MAP 186 B 14 TG182,,CDN439 MRPH00
And Also better location detail.
I still do not see the difference between pages that have been sent previously. MOST "Respond To" pages have the incident details attached to the message. The same with location detail, haven't you had calls to x streets and intersections and street corners before?
I don't know why people crash on panalatinga rd, its the easiest flamin road to dive on, nice and wide and smooth. I guess its just there time.
thant job at tanunda was nothing much well from an emergency services side 3 people were traped between a wall and a bus for a short time BV84 BV81 and G81 all dispatched cat 2 but all in all quite basic
MFS: *CFSRES INC056 16/08/08 21:42,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MORGAN RD,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,FROM POLICE IN VICINITY OF NUDIST AREA,,POLICE & AMB ATTENDING,BMA029 BARM00 SES Barmera
Beware of white pointers :lol:
Quote from: uniden on August 16, 2008, 08:22:18 PM
16-08-08 OH181 Cat7 Panalatinga Rd, Woodcroft 177 D12 SAAS Road Crash Research
Havent seen a cat 7 before
Cat 7 is standby at location, believe the incident is a double fatality
Confirming yes it was a double fatality and a 8 year old was left orphaned :-(
It was a Cat 7 because one of the ambulances was left at the scene due to crews rushing the child casualty to FMC.Another crew was dispatched to collect it and as the road was closed it was'nt a hazard. :wink:
About time you city firefighters drove the second ambulance back to the SAAS base it came from or to a more secure place till the crew can pick it up...Works well done here.... :roll:
QuoteThe double fatality was 500m up the road from where another fatality was only a few months ago. I know that there are roads everywhere that are hot spots for this sort of thing, but Panalatinga to my knowledge (i grew up in that area) has only recently become an area of concern (well should be).
It's not the road that is is the issue, as pumprescue said the road is in very good condition with lots of room and a good surface. In the incident a couple of months ago and last nights job it was just a case of the driver making a very bad decision.
Unfortunately the job last night resulted in the young child loosing both parents and maybe an uncle, then again we could easily have had five dead given the impact and the circumstances, not to mention the peanut that tried to kill us on the way to the job - but that's another story.
A Sad time for all and it just shows you its not the fault of the road but those at the wheel....
Quote from: mattb on August 17, 2008, 08:59:34 AM
QuoteThe double fatality was 500m up the road from where another fatality was only a few months ago. I know that there are roads everywhere that are hot spots for this sort of thing, but Panalatinga to my knowledge (i grew up in that area) has only recently become an area of concern (well should be).
It's not the road that is is the issue, as pumprescue said the road is in very good condition with lots of room and a good surface. In the incident a couple of months ago and last nights job it was just a case of the driver making a very bad decision.
Unfortunately the job last night resulted in the young child loosing both parents and maybe an uncle, then again we could easily have had five dead given the impact and the circumstances, not to mention the peanut that tried to kill us on the way to the job - but that's another story.
Obviously not last nights, but was the bad decision a few months ago someone trying to get "airborne" heading on pimpala across panalatinga and finding a tree?
I believe that is what happened a few years ago also.
Quote from: 6739264 on August 17, 2008, 12:02:52 AM
I still do not see the difference between pages that have been sent previously. MOST "Respond To" pages have the incident details attached to the message. The same with location detail, haven't you had calls to x streets and intersections and street corners before?
Numbers, i suppose its the differance between the incident type being at the start of the message rather than somewhere hidden in the details, And with the location, its putting the exact location all in one part of the message rather than split up again.
QuoteObviously not last nights, but was the bad decision a few months ago someone trying to get "airborne" heading on pimpala across panalatinga and finding a tree?
I believe that is what happened a few years ago also.
That's right, both those fatalaties involved the drivers making poor decisions and ending up in the same tree, in those cases it was to try and go twice the recommended speed and launch themselves off a slight rise in the road. Given that thousands of people drive over that same rise everyday without dying I don't think it can be blamed on the road.
nope, your exactly right matt. I reckon the government has got the camera facing the wrong way on that intersection, needs to be for the cars going east to west over that lip...
It's only natural for people to need something to blame tho.
I travel westbound through that intersection almost every day. Now, I am NOT suggesting that the road is to blame for the two fatals into that tree - purely driver error, but you only have to be doing 60kph heading east to get very light on your wheels, if not some good air time. IMHO I feel that some realignment could reduce the severity of the hump, but I'm no road designer.
It only takes a little speed and not much more stupidity to risk a close encounter with that tree. At least they could instal some armco barrier on the south side of Pimpala Rd.
It would be interesting to see some speed camera shots of west bound traffic there - would be like an episode of The Dukes of Hazzard!
Quote from: OMGWTF on August 17, 2008, 04:53:24 PM
Numbers, i suppose its the differance between the incident type being at the start of the message rather than somewhere hidden in the details, And with the location, its putting the exact location all in one part of the message rather than split up again.
I still have trouble understanding what it is about the MFS pages that people find so hard to comprehend. It's very simple [Incident Type][Location][Further Details] (yes its simplified). Why can't people stop and take two seconds to read the page, comprehend it, and continue?
Could the "Respond To" issue be fixed by an increase in the number of incident types?
QuoteCould the "Respond To" issue be fixed by an increase in the number of incident types?
Free Text capability would fix it...be able to do the whole "RESPOND Cows On Road, MAIN RD, KANGARILLA"
Quote from: Zippy on August 18, 2008, 09:08:53 AM
Free Text capability would fix it...be able to do the whole "RESPOND Cows On Road, MAIN RD, KANGARILLA"
But that requires changes to the system, rather than just inputting more incident types. unless there is a cap on them.
I doubt that they woulda provisioned the ability to add more incident types....it would take the same effort to give the ability to do Free Text....This is South Australia afterall...
Quote from: Zippy on August 18, 2008, 09:08:53 AM
QuoteCould the "Respond To" issue be fixed by an increase in the number of incident types?
Free Text capability would fix it...
They can input over the suggested text before paging...but do you want a quick dispatch or a slower dispatch with more infinite detail ? They also only have limited space, otherwise it is two pager messages.
Ok straight from the horses mouth ( I rang and asked) the only free text part before inputting the address is the field for the house number, it seem they have found you can type whatever you like in there, you can't free write in the street or town field. once you get to the next screen you only have a limited choice of incident types, no free write ability. once you go through the motions of inputting brigades required you then move to the next screen where you have the ability again to start typing. Once you hit send if you chose the incident type of TO and free written a job type in the street number field you get a message that comes out like so MFS: *CFSRES INC032 18/08/08 14:21,RESPOND To Oil Spill,WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,CNR N/EAST RD CAR V`S MOTORCYCLE DEBRIS,ON ROAD,BLP211
They also stated that no more money is to be spent on BOMS as its an obsolete program, it will be maintaned until CAD comes in. So we just have to put up with it for a while longer.
perhaps people who have questions should try organising a tour of comms for there brigade.... ;)
Submitted the paperwork...still waiting for a response. The people that take the bookings seem a little confused as to why anyone would want to look at Comms...!!
Pip
1909366 18:45:48 18-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC045 18/08/08 18:45,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,KALANGADOO ,KALANGADOO MAP 0 0 0 TG231,FACTORY RD, KALANGADOO, CAR ON LPG,KALA00 PENO19 CFS Kalangadoo Response
Is it just me or does Kalangadoo seem to becoming busier with the amount of call outs we have been paged for :-).... maybe its about time we were given a second truck or a LRT :lol: :-P
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on August 18, 2008, 09:14:34 PM
1909366 18:45:48 18-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC045 18/08/08 18:45,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,KALANGADOO ,KALANGADOO MAP 0 0 0 TG231,FACTORY RD, KALANGADOO, CAR ON LPG,KALA00 PENO19 CFS Kalangadoo Response
Is it just me or does Kalangadoo seem to becoming busier with the amount of call outs we have been paged for :-).... maybe its about time we were given a second truck or a LRT :lol: :-P
I would'nt worry about a second appliance if your putting out a car fire on LPG with a CO2 and a Foam extinguisher and then the HP line :-P
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck. :lol:
Quote from: OMGWTF on August 18, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
perhaps people who have questions should try organising a tour of comms for there brigade.... ;)
Already been twice & will going again next month (with a different organisation)...helps when your volunteer operational space is on the third floor of MFS Wakefield St building :-D
06:48:37 19-08-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I3: FIP BUILDING 717, EL ALAMEIN ARMY CAMP ( Cultana Training Camp), 10 km WEST ON OLD WHYALLA ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta Response
07:00:15 19-08-08 There is a Fire call and two personnel can not take truck need more thank you MFS Pt Augusta Response
Hmmm, 12 minutes and only two people at the station and no default brigade responded, surely this is unacceptable.
In one of the other threads I thought someone said that the retained stations need to default just the same as the CFS do - it appears as though they don't think so.
I wonder if the UFU will crack the shits at the MFS and start writing reports like they did with a certain CFS brigade that struggled to get out the door.
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 10:48:16 AM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck. :lol:
Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5 :roll:
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2008, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 10:48:16 AM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck. :lol:
Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5 :roll:
Just relaying what i heard on the radio :lol:
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2008, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 10:48:16 AM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck. :lol:
Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5 :roll:
Just relaying what i heard on the radio :lol:
That might have been the message as i rocked up before the truck left the station :-P
This is not a mud slinging page...
Quote from: uniden on August 19, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
This is not a mud slinging page...
If ya cant beat em, join em :-D
Sorry MR Uniden, Sir
Quote from: Heavy Rescue on August 19, 2008, 05:18:27 PM
06:48:37 19-08-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I3: FIP BUILDING 717, EL ALAMEIN ARMY CAMP ( Cultana Training Camp), 10 km WEST ON OLD WHYALLA ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta Response
07:00:15 19-08-08 There is a Fire call and two personnel can not take truck need more thank you MFS Pt Augusta Response
Hmmm, 12 minutes and only two people at the station and no default brigade responded, surely this is unacceptable.
In one of the other threads I thought someone said that the retained stations need to default just the same as the CFS do - it appears as though they don't think so.
I wonder if the UFU will crack the filtered at the MFS and start writing reports like they did with a certain CFS brigade that struggled to get out the door.
Nah its all good, they are the MFS, no need to default as long as the red truck eventually gets there. :wink:
No mud slinging going on here, but as the person taking the notes the previous night I will back Camo up as the reponse when Kalanagadoo was about to go mobile was "with a crew of 2 1/2". Wasn't too sure who the half was and would hate to hazard a guess.... :-D
Quote from: Katrina on August 19, 2008, 08:58:45 PM
No mud slinging going on here, but as the person taking the notes the previous night I will back Camo up as the reponse when Kalanagadoo was about to go mobile was "with a crew of 2 1/2". Wasn't too sure who the half was and would hate to hazard a guess.... :-D
Cadet maybe :-P
Time to cue the Banjo now......... :-D
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2008, 05:52:27 PM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2008, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 10:48:16 AM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck. :lol:
Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5 :roll:
Just relaying what i heard on the radio :lol:
Kalangadoo did roll with only 2.5
the 0.5 was on the back
That might have been the message as i rocked up before the truck left the station :-P
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 24/08/08 21:43,RESPOND To,PORTA LOO ALIGHT @ ARCADIA DR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 C 15 TG182,NEAR 19,ELZ332
Now thats easy to read! :)
Quote from: Zippy on August 24, 2008, 09:18:25 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 24/08/08 21:43,RESPOND To,PORTA LOO ALIGHT @ ARCADIA DR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 C 15 TG182,NEAR 19,ELZ332
Now thats easy to read! :)
Kenny will not be happy :-D
No it was the blow up sheep......
Quote from: jaff on August 24, 2008, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: Zippy on August 24, 2008, 09:18:25 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 24/08/08 21:43,RESPOND To,PORTA LOO ALIGHT @ ARCADIA DR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 C 15 TG182,NEAR 19,ELZ332
Now thats easy to read! :)
Kenny will not be happy :-D
That job would just give you the shits :lol:
17:48:45 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:48,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,PRINCESS HWY NEAR BISCUIT FLAT,KTN029 SES Kingston Response
17:52:18 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:50,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0 TG225,NEAR BISCUIT FLAT ON PRINCESS HWY FROM M,T GAMBIER POLICE WITH KINGSTON SES,BISC00
17:56:41 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:55,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,STOP FOR CALL CFS ATTENDING,KTN029
18:27:45 25-08-08 KG181 Cat2 Princes Hwy, Kingston C141 K3 SAAS Kingston SE
18:27:48 25-08-08 KG181 Cat2 Princes Hwy, Kingston C141 K3 SAAS Road Crash Research
Car Vs Tree :|
MFS: *CFSRES INC065 25/08/08 22:11,RESPOND To,BALAKLAVA CFS,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,ASSIST WITH SEARCH FOR CFS MEMBER,BALA00
what the?
Yeah just saw that myself on the on line news but no further information than what is on the page
just a guess but they are probably simply letting the searchers who are likely to know the missing person it's one of them as opposed to sum random? bit closer to home/ emotional...
Quote1925586 12:52:50 26-08-08 CT71 UNIFORM TRY ON AT PROSPECT THEN CAT 4 AT ENFIELD SAAS City
clothes before pt??!! :?
Quote from: Morgan on August 26, 2008, 02:03:09 PM
Quote1925586 12:52:50 26-08-08 CT71 UNIFORM TRY ON AT PROSPECT THEN CAT 4 AT ENFIELD SAAS City
clothes before pt??!! :?
More importantly, is it the GREEN uniform??
Quote from: Zippy on August 25, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
17:48:45 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:48,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,PRINCESS HWY NEAR BISCUIT FLAT,KTN029 SES Kingston Response
17:56:41 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:55,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,STOP FOR CALL CFS ATTENDING,KTN029
17:52:18 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:50,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0 TG225,NEAR BISCUIT FLAT ON PRINCESS HWY FROM M,T GAMBIER POLICE WITH KINGSTON SES,BISC00
18:27:45 25-08-08 KG181 Cat2 Princes Hwy, Kingston C141 K3 SAAS Kingston
Car Vs Tree :|
Interestingly enough i did hear something about this on UHF channel 7 not sure if it was a local towie going out to the scene or just a farmer who came across the accident :|
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:12,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,ADL205 41 PPT371 BPK451 ADL202
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,WDV243 WDV249 BLP211 AD2015 ADL206 AD2090
MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM, B COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE*URGMSG (safety officer, etc)
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 27/08/08 15:30,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,159 UNLEY RD,UNLEY MAP 130 J 1 TG182,P1 159 UNLEY RD UNLEY CALLED FROM POLICE, NO PERSONS TRAPPED,MIT020 BURN19 ADL203
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION36 (331)
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:50,RESPOND To,TEA TREE GULLY CFS,TEA TREE GULLY MAP 0 0 0 TG182,PLEASE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 31, GOLDEN GROVE STATION - PRIORITY 2,TTGY19
Aint take long for CFS to do MFS change of quarters....
Quote from: Zippy on August 27, 2008, 03:32:03 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:12,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,ADL205 41 PPT371 BPK451 ADL202
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,WDV243 WDV249 BLP211 AD2015 ADL206 AD2090
MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM, B COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE*URGMSG (safety officer, etc)
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 27/08/08 15:30,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,159 UNLEY RD,UNLEY MAP 130 J 1 TG182,P1 159 UNLEY RD UNLEY CALLED FROM POLICE, NO PERSONS TRAPPED,MIT020 BURN19 ADL203
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION36 (331)
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:50,RESPOND To,TEA TREE GULLY CFS,TEA TREE GULLY MAP 0 0 0 TG182,PLEASE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 31, GOLDEN GROVE STATION - PRIORITY 2,TTGY19
Aint take long for CFS to do MFS change of quarters....
Thats Plan B Zippy :-P
02:00:18 30-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 30/08/08 01:59,RESPOND RCR,BRIDGE RD,POORAKA MAP 94 P 3 TG182,2ND ALARM,ADL204 APK361 31 MFS Car 31
Just curious, what constitutes a 2nd alarm RCR?? Not one that I have seen before. I imagine that first crews possibly required assistance. I beleive this was a two car MVA with at least one fatality (SES were later responded for tarping). Don't know how many appliances responded to the 1st alarm.
Sounds like a nasty one.
If you have persons trapped in seperate cars the policy is to upgrade to a second alarm as you can't work on 2 cars at once.
249 or 329 was probably on its way to it,
I believe its 4 appliances being 2 Fire, 2 Rescue. Correct me on this, long while since i last looked at the book.
Thats right, you pretty much treat them as seperate incidents
Quote from: calspec on August 30, 2008, 03:30:07 AM
02:00:18 30-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 30/08/08 01:59,RESPOND RCR,BRIDGE RD,POORAKA MAP 94 P 3 TG182,2ND ALARM,ADL204 APK361 31 MFS Car 31
Just curious, what constitutes a 2nd alarm RCR?? Not one that I have seen before. I imagine that first crews possibly required assistance. I beleive this was a two car MVA with at least one fatality (SES were later responded for tarping). Don't know how many appliances responded to the 1st alarm.
Sounds like a nasty one.
This incident was the result of a Police High Speed chase, a collision between two cars outside the BP Service Station, with 4 persons trapped, of which two were deceased :-(
Appliances in attendance
Adelaide 204
Adelaide Car 14 DO
Adelaide Car 31 DO
Adelaide Car 40 Safety Officer
Angle Park 361
Oakden 301
Salisbury 329
Multiple ambulances and a retrieval team were sent to the scene.
Enfield SES were responded also to provide shelter as it was pouring with rain.
More info and photos here http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24265840-5006301,00.html
204 came a long way for a second rescue appliance, would of thought Salisbury CFS might of been the next closest rescue for this one, out of their area but may of saved some time waitin for 204, salisbury cfs would of had to cover mets rescue areas north either way.
If you saw the photos, you will understand why 204 went.
Quote from: G D on August 30, 2008, 02:17:36 PM
204 came a long way for a second rescue appliance, would of thought Salisbury CFS might of been the next closest rescue for this one, out of their area but may of saved some time waitin for 204, salisbury cfs would of had to cover mets rescue areas north either way.
Closest, yes, most appropriate, perhaps not. SAMFS only have the one "Heavy Rescue" truck, that being 204, the '9's are merely pump rescues and the CFS not much above that. Lets not nitpick a good response...
yep fair call, have had a look at the photos and 204 certainly required, better to leave CFS in station for other rescues if required
Seen the pics, i can't believe the others weren't killed as well. :-o
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on August 30, 2008, 03:15:53 PM
Seen the pics, i can't believe the others weren't killed as well. :-o
Very true Al, and also on a side note a former firefighters eldest son was killed at Stirling North early this morning....MFS are covering their area at present. :-(
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response
12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...
*subtlely shakes head*.....
minor detail :-o
MFS: *CFSRES INC054 30/08/08 19:24,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,BLACK TOP RD,HILLBANK MAP 62 D 13 TG182,NEAR JOE GAPPER PARK WITH ELZ 331 MULCH,HEAP,TTGY19 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
Bit of drive for the Gullly boys.
But then,
MFS: *CFSRES INC054 30/08/08 19:30,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,BLACKBURN RD,HILLBANK MAP 62 C 8 TG182,WITH 331 NEAR FIRE TRACK JOE GAPPER PARK,OTHL00 CFS One Tree Hill Response
Same call but still not the correct brigade.
I suppose when in doubt, guess the response hey. :|
Quote from: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response
12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...
*subtlely shakes head*.....
perhaps something to do with the 000 call not quite matching what the first paramedic found on arrival??
Well its either One Tree hill or Salisbury, for such a low priority job, id say one tree hill with Elizabeth would be the best response.
Salisbury MFS looked like it had been called to a RCR at Brahma Lodge at the time.
Quote from: boredmatrix on August 31, 2008, 12:00:04 PM
Quote from: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response
12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...
*subtlely shakes head*.....
perhaps something to do with the 000 call not quite matching what the first paramedic found on arrival??
Nah im more concerned about how the Operator managed to type "Persons Trapped" in the message,and wasnt aware that he/she didnt include a Rescue brigade, and for such a long delay to realise that fact.
another case of > Address, Type, Details, Transmit...not review the response plan.
Quote from: Zippy on August 31, 2008, 12:02:45 PM
Well its either One Tree hill or Salisbury, for such a low priority job, id say one tree hill with Elizabeth would be the best response.
Salisbury MFS looked like it had been called to a RCR at Brahma Lodge at the time.
Bit of a longish drive for OTH being at the bottom of the hills face, going by what ive seen on the pager site Salisbury CFS seems to do responses into that area, anyway obviously a fill in upstairs last night?
meh, its only a matter of kilometres, unlike distances out in the sticks...
Yes pretty p iss poor that after over a year now they still don't pay attention, how can you write persons trapped and not add a rescue, for goodness sake !
its like the left arm doesnt know the right arm!
Yet another advantage of Group taking ownership of the call immediately & managing subsequent response. And/or corrections. :lol:
Quote from: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response
12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...
*subtlely shakes head*.....
I must be missing something important here.... the typing in the pager message that persons trapped is to CFS response.
If you are accusing SAAS ComCen then I do not understand the comments made. The SAAS just page a response priority don't they, not incident details !!! The extra details is via radio.
Or is Summertown CFS not a RCR brigade. If not, why did they not query the resources when the truck rolled ?? Or maybe they did & that was the 12 min delay !!
Not much detail given & a lot of people complaining on this forum. You will not never have the full details of the incident call receipt & dispatch issues from a 'pager website'..
** my opinion only **
Quote from: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response
12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...
*subtlely shakes head*.....
Dare I suggest that there was a mistake in the "Person Trapped" part of the message, or that they were informed "Person ok, but having issues getting the door open" trapped yes, but needing a full RCR turnout, maybe no. We don't know all the details.
Relax....
ah fook it...let's just send everything we've got to every VA that we get called to......
....that way you lot on here won't have anything to whinge about.....not from the alleged lack of action on Adelaide Fire or SAAS Comms part (or whoever else you want to blame....) .....but because you won't have time to do anything else than go belting around the country-side in your little white tonka trucks to VA's!!
Quote from: boredmatrix on September 01, 2008, 10:59:18 PM
ah fook it...let's just send everything we've got to every VA that we get called to......
....that way you lot on here won't have anything to whinge about.....not from the alleged lack of action on Adelaide Fire or SAAS Comms part (or whoever else you want to blame....) .....but because you won't have time to do anything else than go belting around the country-side in your little white tonka trucks to VA's!!
Then you'll have the vollo coast guard angry that THEY don't get a call!
Quote from: boredmatrix on September 01, 2008, 10:59:18 PM
ah fook it...let's just send everything we've got to every VA that we get called to......
....that way you lot on here won't have anything to whinge about.....not from the alleged lack of action on Adelaide Fire or SAAS Comms part (or whoever else you want to blame....) .....but because you won't have time to do anything else than go belting around the country-side in your little white tonka trucks to VA's!!
All I can say is I hope I never crash.
Quote from: 6739264 on September 01, 2008, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response
12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...
*subtlely shakes head*.....
Dare I suggest that there was a mistake in the "Person Trapped" part of the message, or that they were informed "Person ok, but having issues getting the door open" trapped yes, but needing a full RCR turnout, maybe no. We don't know all the details.
Relax....
To be fair what everyone is commenting about is the fact it was a single brigade response to a "RCR" page with no "Rescue" resource added.Person ok, but having issues getting the door open is a little bit of a grey area, considering information is coming from the public.....if I received a page for an "RCR" and noticed it only had a single appliance response I would be asking for a Rescue resource straight away.Better to cover all the bases than having to wait longer, and as we know sometimes when it's time critical the outcome is not always good.Stop call never hurt anyone :wink:
There have been many occassions when the Fire Service has not been called to MVA's and it wont be the last.
Isn't this more a case of an SOP not being followed?
Unless things have changed recently, if CFS is responded to a report of a crash, then a primary brigade AND a rescue brigade is sent...regardless of whether there are reports of persons trapped or not....?
This morning, I called in a crash - via SAPol. I made it clear that there was no one in the crashed vehicle, and no occupant around. The call taker advised that they would send CFS & ambulance...which they did.
The response was the local brigade, AND the nearest Rescue...just like the SOP says so.....
So what I can't understand is the inconsistency of the responses... :|
Pip
Quote from: SA Firey on September 01, 2008, 11:43:35 PM
To be fair what everyone is commenting about is the fact it was a single brigade response to a "RCR" page with no "Rescue" resource added.Person ok, but having issues getting the door open is a little bit of a grey area, considering information is coming from the public.....if I received a page for an "RCR" and noticed it only had a single appliance response I would be asking for a Rescue resource straight away.Better to cover all the bases than having to wait longer, and as we know sometimes when it's time critical the outcome is not always good.Stop call never hurt anyone :wink:
There have been many occasions when the Fire Service has not been called to MVA's and it wont be the last.
To be fair, far often we jump all over the comms operators without knowing what was going on. For all we know, the call may have come from the occupant of the car, rather than some retarded passerby. I understand what you are saying and if I had been OIC of Summertown, I would have queried rescue resource response. Oftentimes we have pages from comms where MVA/RCR are used interchangeably. As a crusty old Snr. Firey once told me "Don't interrogate the pager, just get to the station" I swear some people on this forum want a full patient history, dimensions of car/building as well as pictorial description of the surrounding area on the pager. I wish that people on these forums wouldn't second guess our comms operators all the time and trust me, I know all about the Fire Service being not turned out or incorrectly turned out to MVA's.
When will the impotent whining stop?!
Quote from: 6739264 on September 01, 2008, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on September 01, 2008, 11:43:35 PM
To be fair what everyone is commenting about is the fact it was a single brigade response to a "RCR" page with no "Rescue" resource added.Person ok, but having issues getting the door open is a little bit of a grey area, considering information is coming from the public.....if I received a page for an "RCR" and noticed it only had a single appliance response I would be asking for a Rescue resource straight away.Better to cover all the bases than having to wait longer, and as we know sometimes when it's time critical the outcome is not always good.Stop call never hurt anyone :wink:
There have been many occasions when the Fire Service has not been called to MVA's and it wont be the last.
To be fair, far often we jump all over the comms operators without knowing what was going on. For all we know, the call may have come from the occupant of the car, rather than some retarded passerby. I understand what you are saying and if I had been OIC of Summertown, I would have queried rescue resource response. Oftentimes we have pages from comms where MVA/RCR are used interchangeably. As a crusty old Snr. Firey once told me "Don't interrogate the pager, just get to the station" I swear some people on this forum want a full patient history, dimensions of car/building as well as pictorial description of the surrounding area on the pager. I wish that people on these forums wouldn't second guess our comms operators all the time and trust me, I know all about the Fire Service being not turned out or incorrectly turned out to MVA's.
When will the impotent whining stop?!
Spot on numbers..
A typical case of people jumping up and down over a pager message, that had NOTHING to do with them..
Boy, technology is great thing, sometimes, a little too great!
But you need to be very careful about trusting implicitly the information obtained from members of the public, about what is actually going on!!
I go to many jobs on a daily basis in my work - and often find the information given by the public, and what has / is actually occurring are very different.
That is why there are SOP's.... and in the case of CFS, we have have an SOP for what resources to send to particular incidents, so the call takers and dispatchers don't have to try & take guesses at what (and who) to send!!
Pip
Simple tell all the services to stick to the SOP's and send what is required by them,then everyone on here can rest their typing fingers and stop having a whinge :-P
Quote from: Pipster on September 02, 2008, 12:02:57 AM
But you need to be very careful about trusting implicitly the information obtained from members of the public, about what is actually going on!!
I go to many jobs on a daily basis in my work - and often find the information given by the public, and what has / is actually occurring are very different.
That is why there are SOP's.... and in the case of CFS, we have have an SOP for what resources to send to particular incidents, so the call takers and dispatchers don't have to try & take guesses at what (and who) to send!!
Pip
Pip is spot on about why i brought this up. Would be nice, if Paid Staff did a lot more administrative work for brigades, but really also, help us have a easier time doing operational stuff (ensuring correct responses every time, more than enough is better than too little)
Quote from: Pipster on September 02, 2008, 12:02:57 AM
But you need to be very careful about trusting implicitly the information obtained from members of the public, about what is actually going on!!
I go to many jobs on a daily basis in my work - and often find the information given by the public, and what has / is actually occurring are very different.
Dare I be cynical enough to suggest that people who get angry with the public for this should remove their blinkers!?
here I was thinking professionalism was about doing your job and not getting cranky with the public and their lack of knowledge about what anyone involved in a "professional" (sic) public service capacity does!
I'm not angry at the public - just stating that what some tell emergency services about what is happening, is quite different to the situation occurrung.
Occasionally it is malicious / mischievous, but more often it is because they have only had a quick glance at the situation as they drive past, and report what they see - which is only a very small part of the incident....or in a panic over the situation, and can't tell you much about what is actually occurring, or they get second hand info, to ring through to the emergency service, without actually being there.
If we talk specifically about road crashes, there was one recently, a single car vs pole, one occupant, trapped and DOA.
There were at last 5 different callers who rang in, and got 5 different versions of the crash. One said there were 2 cars, 5 people trapped, 2 dead, one really bad, and that the cars had been drag racing. Another said two trapped, several cars involved.
It was all the same crash. The other cars supposedly in the crash were passersby who had stopped to assist (and hadn't crashed at all). The 5 people supposedly trapped where the passersby who were trying to help, and had not been involved in the crash. There had been no drag race.
People's perceptions vary, depending on a wide range of factors, and reasons. In this case, it appeared that SAPol and SAAS took the information based on the worst case scenario, and sent appropriate resources based on that information (I guess MFS did, but their pager messages don't show, so I can only assume they also responded appropriately - no reason to suggest they didn't)
While you have to go with what people tell you, until emergency services arrive to assess, you have to carefully consider what the public tell you, and put appropriate procedures in place to take into account the information you receive. Hence part of why we have SOP's!
Pip
QuoteSimple tell all the services to stick to the SOP's and send what is required by them,then everyone on here can rest their typing fingers and stop having a whinge
wrong they'll revert to whinging about not having anything to whinge about!!! :lol:
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 01, 2008, 11:59:36 PM
A typical case of people jumping up and down over a pager message, that had NOTHING to do with them..
Indeed but that has been pointed out here many many times and it makes no difference. BTW in this case the appropriate enquiries/action has already been taken (before it was mentioned on here, so all the chat back and forward has been a waste of time, surprise surprise).
10:58:39 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 04/09/08 10:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,TORRENS RD,BROMPTON MAP 105 L 11 TG182,STARTED BY TRAIN AT RAIL CROSSING,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk
11:25:07 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 04/09/08 11:24,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,OVINGHAM RAILWAY STATION,DEVONPORT TCE,OVINGHAM MAP 105 Q 10 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk
12:30:52 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 04/09/08 12:30,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,OVINGHAM RAILWAY STATION,DEVONPORT TCE,OVINGHAM MAP 105 Q 10 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk
13:49:15 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/09/08 13:48,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,OVINGHAM RAILWAY STATION,DEVONPORT TCE,OVINGHAM MAP 105 Q 10 TG182,,SAIR55 ADL203 CFS State Air Desk
Are these all related?
Rail grinding perhaps.
Yeah it is track grinding, they train they are using has its own firefighting equipment, but it seems they don't get everything.
all personal your p.p.e. check are over due ,it is cfs policy that this be done every month or no workcover claim will be approved because you are slack kangarilla captain - KANGARILLA CAPTAIN 9/09/2008 3:36:33 PM CFS Kangarilla Info
whats this all about then?
15:37:09 09-09-08 all personal your p.p.e. check are over due ,it is cfs policy that this be done every month or no workcover claim will be approved because you are slack kangarilla captain - KANGARILLA CAPTAIN 9/09/2008 3:36:33 PM CFS Kangarilla Info
Sounds like the captain is not happy and when has it been CFS policy???? tell me how many ppl chrck their PPE and as for the workcover claim I think he has it a little wrong.......may be its a Mawson group policy???
yeh i think he has it a lil wrong too....Must be all the Cows on road...
Workcover would be well within their right to refuse a claim if the person involved wasn't wearing the required PPE by their own choice, and wearing it would have prevented the injury.
I can't comment on this situation though.
not wearing is a little different to not checking tho isnt it??
or being refused ppe when it is damaged :x
Quote from: bill - Hynam CFS on September 09, 2008, 03:20:04 PM
Sounds like the captain is not happy and when has it been CFS policy???? tell me how many ppl chrck their PPE and as for the workcover claim I think he has it a little wrong.......may be its a Mawson group policy???
I check my PPE every week at training, give it the quick once over. If if been running through scrub, or at a structure fire then its gets the once over as well. Gloves, and other small gear also gets the heave-ho as soon as its defective...
PPE is there to save you life, if your gear is busted just order more!
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on September 09, 2008, 08:42:10 PM
or being refused ppe when it is damaged :x
If that ever happens, put in a near miss form and go straight to the region, that should NEVER happen with defective PPE !! :x
Workcover would be hard pressed to prove you didn't check your PPE & they wouldn't bother anyway. And just a slight correction in SA Workcover don't approve or reject claims - the claims agent EML does & they will just about approve any claim (hence the big debt). Having said that CFS like all government departments are Self Insured - so it's not Workcover/EML accepting or rejecting claims its SAFECOM! So as the employer and the claims agent they may be a little more "aggressive" about claims management :wink: (most self insurers are).
Finally unless you run a log for each piece off PPE, How would anyone know?
cheers
Quote from: 6739264 on September 09, 2008, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: bill - Hynam CFS on September 09, 2008, 03:20:04 PM
Sounds like the captain is not happy and when has it been CFS policy???? tell me how many ppl chrck their PPE and as for the workcover claim I think he has it a little wrong.......may be its a Mawson group policy???
I check my PPE every week at training, give it the quick once over. If if been running through scrub, or at a structure fire then its gets the once over as well. Gloves, and other small gear also gets the heave-ho as soon as its defective...
PPE is there to save you life, if your gear is busted just order more!
Agree with numbers. And likewise.
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on September 09, 2008, 08:42:10 PM
or being refused ppe when it is damaged :x
How about when groups refuse to supply new equipment too. Then there is times when at training courses the participants are told certain equipment should be on the their truck and when its not they are told they are not getting the equipment because they don't'need it'
Again shouldn't be happening, you MUST have the minimum equipment, if your group refuses then take it to the next level. In this day and age there is no excuse for have sub-standard or not having equipment. Gone are the days when its up to what the Group Officer "thinks" you need.
Hear Hear.
that is so true
i know a while back there was talks of audits of the equipment held by brigades, and some people were worried that stuff there crew had bought or acquired over the years would be taken if it is not standard stowage, but i think it needs to be looked at in the sense of well that stuff is fun, but lets get everything else up to scratch so you are actually safe when you go on the fireground
19:53:13 12-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC074 12/09/08 19:52,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,BLACKWOOD RAILWAY STATION,STATION RD,BLACKWOOD MAP 154 P 5 TG146,TRAIN FIRE - BOGEY UNDER BULK DIESEL TAN,K - WITH BLKWD & EDEN,BELR00
No other pager messages seen on the website, so I assume this was a minor incident....but if it was a major incident.....
919362 16:59:38 13-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:59,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,URGMSG, ASSIST MARABEL,PINN19
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
1919371 16:59:36 13-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:59,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,URGMSG, ASSIST MARABEL,PINN19
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919362 16:59:03 13-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE,PINN19
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
1919371 16:58:59 13-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE,PINN19
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919362 17:00:42 13-09-08 MFS: ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE, PANIYA NTH RD*URGMSG
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
1919371 17:00:40 13-09-08 MFS: ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE, PANIYA NTH RD*URGMSG
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919371 17:03:20 13-09-08 PINN: RESPOND PINNAROO STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919362 17:03:19 13-09-08 PINN: RESPOND PINNAROO STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
Think this is a very broken turn out, marrabel and pinnaroo are nowhere near eachother.
That is a very sus turnout...cos even Marrabel wasnt even out at a job.
Hmm....i think they were meant to be paged to Assist MURRAYVILLE CFA ;)
Marrabel and Murrayville have a vauge audible similarity, so yeah it was probably a CFS/CFA EMA response.
ALDG INFO: SEVERE WX WARNING ISSUED BY BOM FOR AM, MLR, LEP, KI, USE, LSE, EEP, MN, MUR. DAMAGING WINDS AVG 60-70KPH WITH GUSTS IN EXCESS 90KPH DUE ADELAIDE 0200 HRS. GRANT. CFS Aldgate Info
looks like we'll be in for some windy weather tonight.
SES LOP is at Yellow!
woaaaahhhh, ill be sure to sleep extra nicely tonight.
1919094 13:49:00 14-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:48,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,LG2814 LGS281 PAD251 MFS 2814 Marine
1919074 13:57:41 14-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:57,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,ADL206 41 WDV243 WDV249 MFS Car 41
any details? marine sent to a house address and no other calls?
Largs North turned out to that by the looks of things, not the MV Galantry, I think ERV071 is its turnout callsign?
1919490 00:17:46 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 15/09/08 00:17,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,HIGH ST,KIMBA MAP 0 0 0 TG012,AT SERVICE STATION CORNER BUCKLEBOO ROAD,KIMB00 CFS Kimba Response
1919490 00:21:03 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 15/09/08 00:20,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,KIMBA CFS,KIMBA MAP 0 0 0 TG012,AT WCP. GAS BOTTLES EXPLODING,KIMB00 BUCK00 YALA00 WADD00 CFS Kimba Response
1923238 00:33:07 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 15/09/08 00:32,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,KIMBA CFS,KIMBA MAP 0 0 0,MANPOWER REQUIRED. RESPOND WITH 4 CFS BR,IGADES,KIM029 SES Kimba
Quote from: 21337 on September 14, 2008, 10:04:31 PM
1919094 13:49:00 14-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:48,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,LG2814 LGS281 PAD251 MFS 2814 Marine
1919074 13:57:41 14-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:57,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,ADL206 41 WDV243 WDV249 MFS Car 41
any details? marine sent to a house address and no other calls?
Went to 2 Bells.
2814 is a fire truck, it still responds to fires, the marine officer is still a firefighter.
2nd Alarm.
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 16, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
2nd Alarm.
Well christ, it was so hard to deduce that...
I was more commenting on how there seems to be a shift toward more Americanised terms getting shoehorned into places they don't and shouldn't fit.
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.
Deal with it maybe?.. I have seen you deal with alot worse on this site Numbers!..
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 16, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.
Shouldn't it be just as easy to drop them when you get home again? :?
13:52:18 17-09-08 F74 NO SAAS RESOURCES, U WANT FIRIES SAAS Fulham
Quote from: Zippy on September 17, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
13:52:18 17-09-08 F74 NO SAAS RESOURCES, U WANT FIRIES SAAS Fulham
your point?
its...interesting? getting a bit thin out there these days...
Quote from: CFS_Firey on September 16, 2008, 09:07:58 PM
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 16, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.
Shouldn't it be just as easy to drop them when you get home again? :?
If/When you do it, then I guess you can make up your own mind..
Sheesh.. Linch me because I said "Went to 2 bells".. - Who's to say thats American anyway!? .. Some people need to get a bit more of a life..
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 16, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.
Deal with it maybe?.. I have seen you deal with alot worse on this site Numbers!..
I'm dealing with it buddy, as I said, just commenting about the use of non CFS terms causing issues on the fireground - I mean if you can 'slip' and type it out, no doubt it must be easy to 'slip' and use it in verbal conversation. It's not like its that hard to swtich off... You don't see people screaming "Make pumps 4, rescues 1 and ladders 1" or that they have a "shout" just because they 'picked it up' from another service.
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 17, 2008, 06:47:34 PM
If/When you do it, then I guess you can make up your own mind..
Sheesh.. Linch me because I said "Went to 2 bells".. - Who's to say thats American anyway!? .. Some people need to get a bit more of a life..
Sheesh, relax US FD Superstar, no need to get so defensive about some lighthearted stirring, not doubt you delt with more than that in the US. ;)
I would probably actually use "Bells" more than "Alarms" in conversation with other firies/mates.. I know when to switch off.. Not like some.. :) & Im not from NSW (or the mexican state) so I don't say "make 'trucks'".. :wink:
Don't worry, im relaxed.. Im not the one hung up on the way people talk.. ;) hehe .. Getting over eating "gritz" was the hardest part.. :P
Quote from: Zippy on September 17, 2008, 05:55:29 PM
its...interesting? getting a bit thin out there these days...
clearly you've not been around very long....or still wearing those rose coloured glasses....
nah...it just seems to becoming more obvious...eg being called to do a Medical case as first responder recently.
Nothing wrong with helping the SAAS team at medical calls Naracoorte brigade and salt creek(r3) have been doing it for years,last year SAAS from here where out of twon in penola and they had two call come in at once for jobs in Naracoorte rather than page the next SAAS unit which is almost 50kms away we where paged and by the time we got from the fire station to the saas staion and got therir second bus out they where there and we worked as a team...
We have done training with SAAS and a number of Naracoorte members are approved SAAS drivers...
Quote from: RescueHazmat on September 17, 2008, 08:48:23 PM
I would probably actually use "Bells" more than "Alarms" in conversation with other firies/mates.. I know when to switch off.. Not like some.. :) & Im not from NSW (or the mexican state) so I don't say "make 'trucks'".. :wink:
I didn't know you were from the sates either Mr. Supercrank! ;) You of all people should know that our all our eastern comrades from Cairns through to Warrnambool removed 'Make trucks' from their respective lexicons years ago!
Now all we need is to adopt the UK "Shout". Far more Pub-like and relaxing than "Fire call" or "Callout" :)
Quotenah...it just seems to becoming more obvious...eg being called to do a Medical case as first responder recently.
MFS: *CFSRES INC036 14/09/08 10:43,RESPOND Assist SAAS,20 GRANTLEY AV,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 309 Q 10 TG195,,VHB719
Interesting job on the weekend, SAAS had a Cat 1 job at Victor Harbor, from what I could tell on the scanner the closest cars were at Willunga. Comm's called up and relayed to the crew that firies (MFS) had been responded as there was no one close by and they had an AED, SAPOL had also been responded to assist.
First time I had heard them actually admit to responding the fire service as a first responder, I guess when you have no other option though. As it turns out I think they got an off duty crew into Victor to assist and they got there before the other cars.
I know that SAAS are keen to expand the first responder program and will likely target vollies from other emergency services in the rural areas. Should be interesting to see what eventuates.
Sounds like a great idea to cover all bases, especially in areas that are more prone to shortages than others.
perhaps SAAS should seriously look at reasons as to why their area coverage is RS....and start looking at those who sit in front of 3 screens at a desk and tell the cars where to go.......i'll think they'd find the answers quickly....
but...employ peanuts and make em work like monkeys, but pay them well..and there is no incentive to do better! There's a seriously good reason why a large chunk of the SAAS comms Senior staff are considering jumping ship.....but management just turn the blind eye to it and hope that the good will of staff will continue!
Maybe its about time they started training all brigades even ones which only get maybe 5 or 10 calls a year as SAAS first responders so if the situation when SAAS assist comes up then the closest brigade could be called :-)
Alot of these brigades including yours robert struggle to crew a truck to a fire. Are you really going to be able to get a crew enthused about being trained as first responders?
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on September 19, 2008, 03:31:37 PM
Alot of these brigades including yours robert struggle to crew a truck to a fire. Are you really going to be able to get a crew enthused about being trained as first responders?
Yeah! They'll be the first ones there 45 minutes after the call!
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on September 19, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
Maybe its about time they started training all brigades even ones which only get maybe 5 or 10 calls a year as SAAS first responders so if the situation when SAAS assist comes up then the closest brigade could be called :-)
Robert I am pretty certain SAAS first responders are required to do a skills maintenance package each year just like members of St John do, this means they are actually required to turn up to Brigade training sessions to get their skills signed off. When was the last time you attended brigade training????????? If you where a member of St John you would have been asked to hand your uniform in a long time ago for not completing your skills maintenance. If you don't beleive me why not turn up to training and ask your BTO I beleive he is still a member of St John. :-D
20:37:40 19-09-08 For info: Central Region Commander has advised that the weather for Sunday evening to Monday is expected to be similar to last Monday - DO
-= Western Adelaide SES Info =-
Mmmmmm....................more windy weather 8-)
Robert,There is no need to train every brigade but may be one or two of the larger brigade's with in a group who have members that are willing and able to do the training but also are willing to get right into the red and brown stuff.Its more than just putting a band aid on someone hand and I can tell you its filtered hard work pumping on someone chest till SAAS get there
I am well aware of a number of brigade's within CFS that have or are looking at buying O2 and AED out of their own funds so as to help SAAS but also to look after their own members at a job. SAAS numbers are low both in the staff and the volunteer stations,time they fixed that problem may be take those members out of comms and put them back on the road??
Too bad we cant go back to the Good Ol Days when there was hardly a shortage of SAAS crews :roll: :-)
The good old days are long gone time to move on in life....
Quote from: Ringer on September 19, 2008, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on September 19, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
Maybe its about time they started training all brigades even ones which only get maybe 5 or 10 calls a year as SAAS first responders so if the situation when SAAS assist comes up then the closest brigade could be called :-)
Robert I am pretty certain SAAS first responders are required to do a skills maintenance package each year just like members of St John do, this means they are actually required to turn up to Brigade training sessions to get their skills signed off. When was the last time you attended brigade training????????? If you where a member of St John you would have been asked to hand your uniform in a long time ago for not completing your skills maintenance. If you don't beleive me why not turn up to training and ask your BTO I beleive he is still a member of St John. :-D
You are correct Ringer, the vollie crews now have to do Cert 4 Training to keep up their skills.
Quote from: bill - Hynam CFS on September 20, 2008, 06:09:03 AM
Its more than just putting a band aid on someone hand and I can tell you its filtered hard work pumping on someone chest till SAAS get there
Too much work? Easy solution......
http://www.zoll.com/product.aspx?id=84
14:22:03 22-09-08 STURT INFO: THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING THE CADETS AT PEDAL PRIX. WE FINISHED 46 OUT OF 67 IN OUR CATAGORY. THE CADETS PEDALED 260 LAPS, OR 559KM, IN 24 HRS AND WERE AWARDED 2ND PLACE FOR BEST PRESENTED TEAM/VEHICLE. CFS Sturt Group Info
Congrats to the cadets
Best Presented Bike/Team???
Wasnt expecting that, was a very basic design, but im sure the crews put lots into it.
I hope the Yorke Shark got best presented, those that were there for the weekend will know what im talking about
MFS: *CFSRES INC052 24/09/08 17:11,RESPOND Assist SAAS,SANDALWOOD ,SANDALWOOD MAP 000 0 0 TG204,1KM TOWARDS KAROONDA FROM SANDALWOOD,PERSON STUCK 35MTR UP IN CHERRY PICKER,HALD00 KARD19 CFS Karoonda Response
Now theres a reason for a Aerial Appliance in the Sticks. :evil:
Should have an escape system, and be able to lower the bucket from the ground - loxtons vertical rescue unit could help as well.
Or one of those nets you see on the old movies "Jump you filtered jump" I think how the song goes :wink:
1906658 16:55:48 29-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 29/09/08 16:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES EAST HWY,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT MAP 0 O 0,ROAD BLOCK/DIVERSION REQUIRED AT MT GAMB,IER SALE YARDS. CONTACT DAVID MT GAMBIER,MTG029 SES Mt Gambier Response
Hmmm does anyone else know anything about this one :?
Just trying to find out.
All i got so far was a spill on the princes hwy in victoria. Highway is closed.
Or maybe a truck full of farmers union iced coffee tipped over :lol:.... sounds like the spill must have been big enough for the highway to be closed off going out of Mount Gambier
Pager batteries are no longer stored in the station. Contact Comms officer for any pager battery requirements. If you need one to shut up a pager with a flat battery, See Ken at the servo. For all other batteries see Equip Officer. - KANGA CFS Kangarilla Info
someones a bit cranky :-o or am i reading this the wrong way??
NEW FIRE TRUCK ARRIVES AT MINTARO 7:00PM NEXT TUESDAY PLEASE ATTEND SPECIAL TRAINING SESSION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE -ROD CFS Mintaro Info
Hmmm wonder what it will be?
Quote from: SA Firey on September 29, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
NEW FIRE TRUCK ARRIVES AT MINTARO 7:00PM NEXT TUESDAY PLEASE ATTEND SPECIAL TRAINING SESSION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE -ROD CFS Mintaro Info
Hmmm wonder what it will be?
I have a feeling its a Volvo...
Quote from: 6739264 on September 29, 2008, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on September 29, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
NEW FIRE TRUCK ARRIVES AT MINTARO 7:00PM NEXT TUESDAY PLEASE ATTEND SPECIAL TRAINING SESSION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE -ROD CFS Mintaro Info
Hmmm wonder what it will be?
I have a feeling its a Volvo...
They wish :lol: :lol:
Quote from: mac13 on September 29, 2008, 07:42:54 PM
Pager batteries are no longer stored in the station. Contact Comms officer for any pager battery requirements. If you need one to shut up a pager with a flat battery, See Ken at the servo. For all other batteries see Equip Officer. - KANGA CFS Kangarilla Info
someones a bit cranky :-o or am i reading this the wrong way??
Reading the wrong way.. ;)
LOL @ the volvo comment.. Classic..
Rob.. Yes, one can only assume it is big enough to close the freeway.. Hence the response.. :roll:
*CFSRES INC035 30/09/08 13:52,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,5 FYFE ST,GAWLER WEST MAP 23 H 11 TG182,VEHICLE IN SHED NOT ATTACHED TO HOUSE,GAW359 ELZ331
MFS: *CFSRES INC038 30/09/08 14:10,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,LYNDOCH RD,GAWLER EAST MAP 23 Q 7 TG182,TRUCK FIRE - NEAR THE HOSPITAL,ELZ331 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1909800 13:58:05 30-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 30/09/08 13:57,RESPOND Smoke in Area,WOODYATES AV,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 C 14 TG182,SMOKE IN AREA AROUND GROUP OF UNITS JUST, OFF WOODYATES ROAD,SAIR55 SAL329
Thats a worry, gawler truck on a call, both elizabeth trucks in gawler on a call and one of the salisburys on a call. I'd hope my house wouldn't catch on fire in gawler or elizabeth!
Callouts happen.. You just 'not going to go' incase there is another one closer?
Im sure the comcen boys had it well in hand..
Sigh, I love when people second guess whats happening
331 was diverted to COQ 35 for the first call
332 was diverted COQ 35 for the second call
359 then went K4 so 332 went back to 33
301 went COQ to 32
It was all in hand.
Thankyou, come again...
But the pager system shows everything that happens...doesn't it? :evil:
Pip
Your exactly right Pip, all those important facts are down there so everyone else can understand exactly why Comms did what they did LOL :roll:
Firstly, the pager doesn't show EVERYTHING.
i didn't see where 321 was or coq's for 301.
Secondly, i was just being sarcastic about how some many trucks were on a call around one district, thats all, no need to make a big deal :-P
Yeah we know the pager site doesn;t show everything hence everyone is having a go at you. you will soon learn that this discussion happens about once a week at least.
It doesnt your kidding me, god i swore i saw this the other day and knew everything that was happeneing.
1925587 04:45:43 30-09-08 JC WOKE UP JC Roxby
1925587 04:49:59 30-09-08 JC HAD A SHOWER JC Roxby
1925587 04:58:23 30-09-08 JC HAD SOME TOAST JC Roxby
1925587 05:10:42 30-09-08 JC MADE HIS LUNCH JC Roxby
1925587 05:25:02 30-09-08 JC WENT TO WORK JC Roxby
:-D :-D :-D
Quote from: JC on October 01, 2008, 01:05:39 PM
It doesnt your kidding me, god i swore i saw this the other day and knew everything that was happeneing.
1925587 04:45:43 30-09-08 JC WOKE UP JC Roxby
1925587 04:49:59 30-09-08 JC HAD A SHOWER JC Roxby
1925587 04:58:23 30-09-08 JC HAD SOME TOAST JC Roxby
1925587 05:10:42 30-09-08 JC MADE HIS LUNCH JC Roxby
1925587 05:25:02 30-09-08 JC WENT TO WORK JC Roxby
:-D :-D :-D
No JC, that can't have happened. SOP's dictate that JC must clean his teeth and urinate before leaving for work. How on earth can it take 15 mintues to make lunch! This is just stupidity on somones part. Do you know what else could have been achieved in that time frame?!
I'm sorry, but I just can't believe in this day and age this is still happening. This is why we need JCCAD.
1909055 14:38:20 01-10-08 CORO INFO: MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 34 RETURNED TO STATOIN, ALL IN ONE PIECE - ALEX CFS Coromandel Valley Info
Wall of Shame appliance?? :evil:
1925587 04:46:43 30-09-08 JC NEEDS TO GET A LIFE JC Roxby
1925587 04:48:43 30-09-08 JC WAITS FOR HIS PAGER TO GO OFF BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FULL TIME FIREMAN IN THE MFS Roxby
riiiiiiiight.......eh.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 01, 2008, 04:23:10 PM
1925587 04:46:43 30-09-08 JC NEEDS TO GET A LIFE JC Roxby
1925587 04:48:43 30-09-08 JC WAITS FOR HIS PAGER TO GO OFF BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FULL TIME FIREMAN IN THE MFS Roxby
No im not and i dont realy care if my pager goes off or not. :wink:
MFS are not the only paid / full time fire service in SA.
Sorry numbers i got a bit fancy that day. Vegimite & cheese. :-)
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 01, 2008, 04:23:10 PM
1925587 04:46:43 30-09-08 JC NEEDS TO GET A LIFE JC Roxby
1925587 04:48:43 30-09-08 JC WAITS FOR HIS PAGER TO GO OFF BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FULL TIME FIREMAN IN THE MFS Roxby
Oh man, you so got him there!
Quote from: JC on October 01, 2008, 04:47:04 PM
Sorry numbers i got a bit fancy that day. Vegimite & cheese. :-)
Too late for your logical explanation, the grievance form is already in.
You like Vegimite & cheese? So do I, nice reply JC & Numbers you seem so controlled these days - whats going on?
Quote from: chook on October 02, 2008, 05:52:14 AM
You like Vegimite & cheese? So do I, nice reply JC & Numbers you seem so controlled these days - whats going on?
One Word Chook .........RITILIN
Gotta love the Operator assisted pager messages:
18:12:58 01-10-08 PLS PH AIR HEAD QUARTERS DUTY PHONE - YOU KNOW NUMBER
Ses
Pip
Hehehe.. Nice find pip..
Quote from: chook on October 02, 2008, 05:52:14 AM
You like Vegimite & cheese? So do I, nice reply JC & Numbers you seem so controlled these days - whats going on?
Getting on a bit. I can't spend my nights drunk and getting into fights anymore. :( Mummy said no!
Thats no good - need to find something else destructive to do :wink:
Numbers already does the destructive bit here :evil:
MFS: *CFSRES INC064 05/10/08 21:16,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,COMPTON CFS,COMPTON MAP 0 0 0 TG226,1ST HOUSE ON RIGHT ON STONY FLAT RD OF M,ILLICENT HWY- FLAMES COMING FROM CHIMNEY,COMP00 WNDL00 CFS Compton Response
Gee we knew you were bored Camo but what the.... :lol:
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:40,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,BACK UP PT AUGUSTA - PRISON RIOT - PRIOR,ITY 1,ADL206 PPI501 PPI509 MFS Pt Pirie
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:14,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,STAND-BY AT MAIN GATE AT REQUEST OF X CFS Stirling North Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC065 09/10/08 16:48,RESPOND To,NAPPERBY CFS,NAPPERBY MAP 0 0 0 TG074,CHANGE QUARTERS TO PIRIE ASAP,NAPP00 CFS Napperby Response
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 50 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
Nice P1 for 206 and CFS doing COQ's to.
My shift is just starting our 14 hour night shift.. See what the evening holds..
Send in the tear gas and the dogs....
I'm lucky enough to be 90 mins away.. Don't fancy playing in teargas tonight, but, who knows what might happen..
But for now, its dinner time! ;)
Nah send in the airfield tenders from Edinburgh as they have water cannons :-)
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:40,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,BACK UP PT AUGUSTA - PRISON RIOT - PRIOR,ITY 1,ADL206 PPI501 PPI509
are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 09, 2008, 11:47:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:40,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,BACK UP PT AUGUSTA - PRISON RIOT - PRIOR,ITY 1,ADL206 PPI501 PPI509
are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........
Your one twisted sandshoe 206, being so keen to go to jail and all! :-D
Reminds me that "neccesity is the mother of all invention" yep I bet it was some inmate of the bighouse that figured out that something like "soap on a rope", made for a less eventful showertime :-o
Lol! :wink:
1909187 15:13:31 10-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 10/10/08 15:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMALL FIRE IN PARA WIRRA REC PARK,CALL FROM TERRY [GREEN HOUSE AT PARK ENT,RANCE],SAIR55 OTHL00 CFS Para Group Officers Response
:-o to think Humbug Scrub was on a lucky streak until today :|
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on October 10, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
1909187 15:13:31 10-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 10/10/08 15:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMALL FIRE IN PARA WIRRA REC PARK,CALL FROM TERRY [GREEN HOUSE AT PARK ENT,RANCE],SAIR55 OTHL00 CFS Para Group Officers Response
:-o to think Humbug Scrub was on a lucky streak until today :|
by the sound of it, it's only a burn-off.
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on October 10, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
1909187 15:13:31 10-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 10/10/08 15:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMALL FIRE IN PARA WIRRA REC PARK,CALL FROM TERRY [GREEN HOUSE AT PARK ENT,RANCE],SAIR55 OTHL00 CFS Para Group Officers Response
:-o to think Humbug Scrub was on a lucky streak until today :|
"Adelaide Fire Morialta 14 responding to scrub fire Humbug Scrub over" DEH saves the day :lol:
i think that has to really bug Adelaide Fire to bits!!
Why?
Cos DEH self-respond along to CFS jobs, just by watching the paging feed......bit lame at this time of the year, but alright in the height of summer i guess. It would be nice if Adelaide fire had the ability to page the DEH Bases. also identifying themselves as "DEH Morialta 14" would help...
Quote from: Zippy on October 11, 2008, 07:52:06 AM
Cos DEH self-respond along to CFS jobs, just by watching the paging feed......bit lame at this time of the year, but alright in the height of summer i guess. It would be nice if Adelaide fire had the ability to page the DEH Bases. also identifying themselves as "DEH Morialta 14" would help...
I didnt realise DEH actually operated through adelaide fire anyway
Somebody's gotta begin the resource tracking of those rougies ;)
17:03:58 13-10-08 to all mundoo members the fire season has been brought foward to the 15th november 2008 CFS Mundoo Group Info
So does someone now something that even headquarters state they don't or are they guessing?
QUOTE from AdelaideNow news site 13/10/08
"SATELLITE images suggest the fire danger season is approaching faster than the Country Fire Service is prepared to admit.
The Bureau of Meteorology predicts the state is "ready to burn fairly soon", but the CFS is yet to declare when the fire ban season will begin."
Cheers
There is a lot CFS are'nt telling us :wink:
Just some over excited person who enjoys sending out pager messages i should think.
No dates have been formally released, and if you look at the CFS site, they are just showing the standard dates, ie; 1st December for MLR.
Nah they have it nailed, 15th seems to be the date :wink:
Quote from: jaff on October 13, 2008, 10:22:47 PM
Nah they have it nailed, 15th seems to be the date :wink:
Would lvoe to know where this info has come from?
As i would have expected to hear/read this somewhere considering my employer... and yet i havent....
The dates for this fire season are supposed to be Gazetted this Wednesday - so all dates will be official then.
I heard a CFS spokesman talking last week about the Fire Danger Season, and indicated that it is likely that the dates are going to be brought forward two weeks.
I guess we will find out for sure tomorrow!!
Pip
Fire Danger Season's all year round...if ya get what i mean ;)
1909068 12:09:07 14-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 14/10/08 12:07,RESPOND Fire Alarm,ADELAIDE RD,MCCRACKEN MAP 310 F 2 TG195,DEFAULT FROM VICTOR MFS MCKRAKEN AGED CA,RE OPPOSITE LUTHERAN AGED CARE,HIND00 CFS Hindmarsh Valley Response
MFS defaulting to CFS, dont see that every day!! :evil: I think MFS were at another job but still highlights the importance of the two fire services.
It is extremely rare for them to default through lack of crew. But they did call for SES pretty quickly for the earlier job, so maybe one of those days when no one is around.
Quote from: Zippy on October 14, 2008, 08:10:25 AM
Fire Danger Season's all year round...if ya get what i mean ;)
I'm referring to the Gazetted Fire Danger Season - which is not all year round :wink:
Fire Danger is 24/7/365 tho...and the CFS needs to promote THAT...not just the RURAL Fire danger Season...grrr, not aimed at you pip :)
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
Quote from: mac13 on October 15, 2008, 01:58:54 PM
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
Or earlier as the grass dries out at a rapid rate.
Quote from: safireservice on October 15, 2008, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: mac13 on October 15, 2008, 01:58:54 PM
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
Or earlier as the grass dries out at a rapid rate.
how i understand it Euan made his decision by today because if they want to bring it forward they have to give 14 days notice or something.
Quote from: mac13 on October 15, 2008, 01:58:54 PM
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
So it looks like someone in the Mundoo group has their finger on the pulse after all. If only they could predict the big incidents a couple of days before they start we could really do some forward planning. :-D
Quote from: G D on October 14, 2008, 10:44:50 AM
1909068 12:09:07 14-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 14/10/08 12:07,RESPOND Fire Alarm,ADELAIDE RD,MCCRACKEN MAP 310 F 2 TG195,DEFAULT FROM VICTOR MFS MCKRAKEN AGED CA,RE OPPOSITE LUTHERAN AGED CARE,HIND00 CFS Hindmarsh Valley Response
MFS defaulting to CFS, dont see that every day!! :evil: I think MFS were at another job but still highlights the importance of the two fire services.
Nah wasn't a default, was for the 2nd truck...they were stopped shortly after
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on October 14, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
It is extremely rare for them to default through lack of crew. But they did call for SES pretty quickly for the earlier job, so maybe one of those days when no one is around.
Strange that they didnt go through Adelaide Fire to default to SES, as they did with CFS. As it appears both times SES have been responded its come from a local page from SES people???
They didn't actually default..
Quote from: 24pumper on October 16, 2008, 08:05:44 AM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on October 14, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
It is extremely rare for them to default through lack of crew. But they did call for SES pretty quickly for the earlier job, so maybe one of those days when no one is around.
Strange that they didnt go through Adelaide Fire to default to SES, as they did with CFS. As it appears both times SES have been responded its come from a local page from SES people???
They didn't default for the RCR, South Coast SES has a member in the Victor police....no more needs to be said on that :wink:
And Goolwa police. :wink:
They have a bit of a habit for self turning out, i was surprised they didn't self respond to the fatal we had the other day.
Thats no different to the unit that responds to fire service calls off the pager site/pdw!
CAPTAIN CRAIG HOLT IS ON 891 SM BROADCASTING FROM THE WATERFALL GULLY KIOSK
-= CFS Burnside Info =-
So what did he have to say?
More interesting is what song did they play after and did they sum him up with it?
HAHA
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 16/10/08 09:10,RESPOND Fire Alarm,GRAND BVD,SEAFORD MAP 195 L 15 TG134,ELDERCARE SEAFORD,SEAF00 CDN439 MRPH00 OHH421
Great to see that the big black hole of curious responses still exists!
QuoteMore interesting is what song did they play after and did they sum him up with it?
HAHA
we didn't start the fire no we didn't light but we try to fight it............ :roll:
Quote from: 6739264 on October 17, 2008, 10:34:46 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 16/10/08 09:10,RESPOND Fire Alarm,GRAND BVD,SEAFORD MAP 195 L 15 TG134,ELDERCARE SEAFORD,SEAF00 CDN439 MRPH00 OHH421
Great to see that the big black hole of curious responses still exists!
Thats pretty normal for down there... :|
Quote from: Darren on October 17, 2008, 01:11:14 PM
Thats pretty normal for down there... :|
Yeah, I had thought it was getting better, but shes still a little vortex of extraordinary retardation.
The weird thing about that call numbers is that it didn't come through as a *WFAM* or whatever its called. which it should. I didn't go because i was at uni, so cant shed anymore light on it.
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 06/11/08 09:11,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 E 4 TG182,IN FRONT OF THE MANSIONS - RUBBISH BIN,SAIR55 STM401
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/11/08 11:18,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,26 LERON AV,ENFIELD MAP 106 G 2 TG182,K99 ON ARRIVAL.,31 MFS Car 31
1926877 11:16:39 06-11-08 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION,321 TO STN 37,332 TO STN 30 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION, BOUNDARY OF 30 AND 36 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1909187 11:28:58 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1909191 11:28:56 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
1908995 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Burnside Response
1908991 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
What's going on here?
A default for Change of Quarters, thats different...
11:48:41 06-11-08 TTG has defaulted, not enough crew. Capt CFS Tea Tree Gully Info
Looks like north eastern suburbs needs an extra appliance, the northern suburbs really turns to the shits at times...
and while we are looking at "whats going on here"....
1909193 18:05:31 05-11-08 GOOD AFTER NOON -- COULD PERSONEL WITH SPECIALISED SKILLS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE SAT NIGHT CONTACT DALKEITH CAPT WITH INFO IMEDIATELY -- AS THIS WILL HAVE A VITAL BEARING ON OUR RESPONSE FOR SAT NIGHT -- CALL 0418893967 CFS Dalkeith Info
and
1909196 13:04:48 06-11-08 I require 2 or 3 members to carry out a composite active stand by at Dalkeith Station on Saturday night, 18:00 - 23:00. You will be fed and well looked after. Ring Captain if you are interested. CFS Tea Tree Gully Info
anyone got clues?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on November 06, 2008, 10:48:24 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 06/11/08 09:11,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 E 4 TG182,IN FRONT OF THE MANSIONS - RUBBISH BIN,SAIR55 STM401
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/11/08 11:18,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,26 LERON AV,ENFIELD MAP 106 G 2 TG182,K99 ON ARRIVAL.,31 MFS Car 31
1926877 11:16:39 06-11-08 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION,321 TO STN 37,332 TO STN 30 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION, BOUNDARY OF 30 AND 36 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1909187 11:28:58 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1909191 11:28:56 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
1908995 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Burnside Response
1908991 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
What's going on here?
from the Tiser site
FIRE has destroyed the rear of an empty house at Enfield. (Inc 018)
The fire at the property on Leron Ave was reported by a passer-by at 11.15am and took 30 Metropolitan Fire Service firefighters 15 minutes to bring under control.
Damage is estimated at $150,000 and fire cause investigators are at the scene.
At the same time there was a Factory Fire at Edwardstown so I'm guessing there was a bit of a shortage of red appliances for a while..... shame about the TTG response, but there cant have ben too much concern as I didnt see a replacement paged
Quote from: misterteddy on November 06, 2008, 11:58:59 AM
and while we are looking at "whats going on here"....
1909193 18:05:31 05-11-08 GOOD AFTER NOON -- COULD PERSONEL WITH SPECIALISED SKILLS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE SAT NIGHT CONTACT DALKEITH CAPT WITH INFO IMEDIATELY -- AS THIS WILL HAVE A VITAL BEARING ON OUR RESPONSE FOR SAT NIGHT -- CALL 0418893967 CFS Dalkeith Info
and
1909196 13:04:48 06-11-08 I require 2 or 3 members to carry out a composite active stand by at Dalkeith Station on Saturday night, 18:00 - 23:00. You will be fed and well looked after. Ring Captain if you are interested. CFS Tea Tree Gully Info
anyone got clues?
Seems like a drastic step to ensure Fire Cover for the typically busy saturday night...
Woulda thought they would ask One Tree Hill.
Perhaps Dalkeith have a social do planned, and want to makes sure all members have an opportunity to attend, without having to worry about being called out for a period of time.
Nothing new in that.
Pip
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 07/11/08 00:48,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PRINCES HWY,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,5KM WEST OF TAILEM BEND,TLEM19 COOK00
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 07/11/08 00:51,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PRINCES HWY,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,5KM EAST OF TAILEM BEND,BETWEEN TAILEM & MURRAY BRIDGE,TLEM19 MURR00
MFS: COOKE PLAINS *** STOP CALL *** 5KM EAST OF TAILEM, NOT WEST
Hmm, pretty sure Murray Bridge is West of Tailem Bend.
MFS: *CFSRES INC110 08/11/08 00:12,RESPOND Tree Down,NATIVE AV,MT BARKER MAP 184 F 6 TG128,TREE DOWN ACROSS ROAD NEAR BONYTHON,RD.SES CANNOT GET CREW, MBKR19 CFS Mount Barker Response
Bit concerning that SES cannot get crew at Midnight on a Friday night...
What do people think?
Quote from: adelaide_medic on November 08, 2008, 10:39:21 AM
What do people think?
I think, vollunteer service on a night that a lot of people are out socialising...
Anyway, dont forget to set the drag ;)
That's the norm for Adelaide Hills SES now, they have been defaulting 24/7 regardless of what day it is. Time something was done about it.......
Quote from: Robert on November 08, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
That's the norm for Adelaide Hills SES now, they have been defaulting 24/7 regardless of what day it is. Time something was done about it.......
Yeah Yeah I agree Robert, lets start with docking their overtime pay, if that doesn't get results, its no leave loading and if we still get no results cut their superannuation payments. Leave it to me :-D
21:53:43 10-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response
Hmmmmm...was she trying to make whatever burn quicker ?? :?
Petrols the only way the burn things in some places....but diesel wont kill you :P
Had a look up at the Mt Osmond hills face while driving home from work yesterday, the grass land looks like its 85-100% cured.....
heard that this was a Stump in driveway about 1 metre high burnt, no petrol in sight, lady had dug a pit around it to "make it safe..." even tho it was next to large gum tree and house
20:33:05 10-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 10/11/08 20:32,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,MONASH MAP 000 0 0 TG206,1 CAR MVA NEAR SPEEDWAY,POSS ENTRAPMENT,LYRP00 MNSH00 CFS Lyrup Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC072 10/11/08 20:34,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,BERRI MAP 0 0 0 TG203,1 ENTRAPMENT. LIGHTING REQUIRED. OPPOSIT,E SPEEDWAY PARK,BRI029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
Interesting response sendin three CFS trucks into MFS area.
I'm led to believe that MFS crew were at training and would have been there in under two minutes if correct response was initiated...
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.
Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.
No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???
Quote from: Zippy on November 11, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
....Had a look up at the Mt Osmond hills face while driving home from work yesterday, the grass land looks like its 85-100% cured.....
This is the first CFS SCC activation I have seen for this fire season:
11:43:24 11-11-08 CFS: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS RED - SCC PARTIAL ACTIVATION. INTEL COORD, MLO, HOTLINE, SCC COORD & SARC REQUIRED TO ATTEND SCC - DSC EDEN < 11/11/2008 11:43:13 PM CFS HQ Info
CFS website from CRIIMSON details 5 going fire incidents in SA. Some in the Adelaide Hills......
They are "Going" till its manually updated lol....so they arent necessarily "Going".
2 Regions are just at LOP-RED, causing STATE > Red.
Quote from: Zippy on November 11, 2008, 10:49:31 AM
They are "Going" till its manually updated lol....so they arent necessarily "Going".
2 Regions are just at LOP-RED, causing STATE > Red.
Thanks, so accuracy is dependant on SITREPS being timely & accurate from the field.
the information on the website is pretty much 100% incorrect to what may be happening...the website status may say "going"...and may only change to completed 10 hours after its actually completed. Its CFS SHQ who update it, only through the informtation that comes via Fire Reports or when ever the State Air Desk is operational, who essentially deals with processing these reports....etc.
The Data on the CFS website is reproduced off of CRIIMSON which is the most up to date information contrary to Zippy's beliefs. For day to day incidents they will remain going for 2 hours after the last entry in CRIIMSON.
For most incidents the only information in CRIIMSON is the initial response and acknowledements depending on how enthusiastic the operator is. The incident summary on the website is for public information. It is not intended on being a resource tracking tool for over-enthusiastic,information craving volunteers...
Quote from: K55 on November 11, 2008, 01:09:55 PM
The Data on the CFS website is reproduced off of CRIIMSON which is the most up to date information contrary to Zippy's beliefs. For day to day incidents they will remain going for 2 hours after the last entry in CRIIMSON.
For most incidents the only information in CRIIMSON is the initial response and acknowledements depending on how enthusiastic the operator is. The incident summary on the website is for public information. It is not intended on being a resource tracking tool for over-enthusiastic,information craving volunteers...
Thanks for the compliment :roll: But I am a computer nerd that loves to understand how the data moves through a system & thus accuracy of the presented public information, then an over-enthusiastic volunteer..
.. and I have been in emergency services long enough to know about 'resource tracking' & how hard that is. CRIIMSON contains some information (last time I accessed the Intranet website was 12 months plus ago) but never everything you need.
It will be interesting to see how the other agencies handle this facility when their new websites are launched.
Quote from: misterteddy on November 11, 2008, 10:08:27 AM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.
Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.
No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???
how could they only have themselves to blame? seems like a quote without much to back it up. MFS train weekly, so dont tend to book themselves off because of a special event, e.g. training...
if you check out: MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response
reckon you will notice that they didnt book off for training.
It wasn't sinister, if you ring alerts and thats what your told, what more can you do....
Quote from: Footy on November 11, 2008, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on November 11, 2008, 10:08:27 AM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.
Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.
No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???
how could they only have themselves to blame? seems like a quote without much to back it up. MFS train weekly, so dont tend to book themselves off because of a special event, e.g. training...
if you check out: MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response
reckon you will notice that they didnt book off for training.
I think the 'have themselves to blame', refers to the fact that MFS would have dispatched them, so you would think they would get it right?.. (Not suggesting it wasn't right, one can only assume there was a reason the response was different to the norm)..
message understood...
Quote from: RescueHazmat on November 11, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: Footy on November 11, 2008, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on November 11, 2008, 10:08:27 AM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.
Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.
No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???
how could they only have themselves to blame? seems like a quote without much to back it up. MFS train weekly, so dont tend to book themselves off because of a special event, e.g. training...
if you check out: MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response
reckon you will notice that they didnt book off for training.
I think the 'have themselves to blame', refers to the fact that MFS would have dispatched them, so you would think they would get it right?.. (Not suggesting it wasn't right, one can only assume there was a reason the response was different to the norm)..
thanks fella....at least someone got it :?
And I didn't even need my thinkin' cap.. ;)
The whole response to the Speedway job wasn't by the book, 1) that part of the Sturt hwy is Renmark's area both MFS & SES, 2) page asked for lighting & according to people from my old unit they assumed that Renmark was on scene already & they were just to provide lighting - very surprised when they arrived and found out they were the rescue crew.
Footy my understanding is that it would not have mattered how quick, fire cover and rescue arrived on seen, the end result would have been the same (if you get my meaning).
As been said before, its not a perfect world!
just noticed that none of the SAAS pages are on the usual GRN paging site, from about 1800 last night, any clues nyone...nothing sinister I hope
MFS: *CFSRES INC022 12/11/08 08:22,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TORRENS RD,KILKENNY MAP 105 A 5 TG182,PERSON IN VEHICLE WITH POWER LINES DOWN,249 ON SCENE,31 MFS Car 31
I heard SAAS were switching to a secure link.
Anyone know any more?
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/11/08 21:31,RESPOND Tree Fire,ELDER SMITH RD,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 M 6 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441
That's a bit far
again..its probably doing COQ or on the Run, and is the closest available pump.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on November 13, 2008, 07:54:53 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/11/08 21:31,RESPOND Tree Fire,ELDER SMITH RD,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 M 6 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441
That's a bit far
That's next door compared with this:
MFS: *CFSRES INC113 12/11/08 21:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LOCK ,LOCK MAP 0 0 0 TG011,,SAIR55 GLO441
Lol.... the lock to their station?
you idiot...region 6 perhaps?? :roll:
nuh duh, man this conversation feels like its on the back of a hillbilly 34.
yep :roll:
Poor Paringa, 1/6th of their yearly turnouts in a single 24hrs!
Haha, they wont know who they are now.
MRPH INFO: 1 of 2 MORPHETT 24 (GUMERACHA 24) IS NOW OPERATIONAL. ALTHOUGH VERY SIMILAR TO M24 SOME THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. PLS MAKE YOURSELF FAMILIAR WITH THIS APPLIANCE AND TAKE IT FOR A DRIVE IF YOU NEED.
MRPH INFO: 2 of 2 THE DRIVERS SIDE HOSE REEL WORKS BUT NEEDS FURTHER MANUAL ASSISTANCE TO WIND UP. THIS WILL BE LOOKED INTO. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO ASSISTED WITH THE DELIVERY AND CHANGE OVER. LT2
Honestly, why cant Morphett Vale just be given a new truck! Out to you guys, you deserve it!
Agree only truly busy brigade without a new rural truck except for barker maybe
even the Urban capability of the 24P for there area is questionable. Both trucks need to be updated pretty much.
where's hicks these days?
Quote from: CFS_Firey on November 13, 2008, 08:12:13 AM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on November 13, 2008, 07:54:53 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/11/08 21:31,RESPOND Tree Fire,ELDER SMITH RD,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 M 6 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441
That's a bit far
That's next door compared with this:
MFS: *CFSRES INC113 12/11/08 21:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LOCK ,LOCK MAP 0 0 0 TG011,,SAIR55 GLO441
Haha, wondered when that would get noticed, we were testing Glen Osmond's MDT, decided to attach it to that job...see how long before SAFF picked it up !
Now that is funny - who said you back room people have no sense of humour! :-D
Quote from: Darren on November 14, 2008, 10:21:14 PM
Haha, wondered when that would get noticed, we were testing Glen Osmond's MDT, decided to attach it to that job...see how long before SAFF picked it up !
Got picked up in the amusing messages thread much earlier than here...
MFS: *CFSRES INC021 19/11/08 08:12,RESPOND Fire Alarm,HOSPITAL RD,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,FIRE ALARM IN THE ADMINISTRATION BDLG AT, THE HOSPITAL,PAU519 MFS Pt Augusta Response
Fire Call. More crew required URGENTLY one is not enough MFS Pt Augusta Response
hhhmmmm bugger....
09:27:28 19-11-08 AS81 Cat2 Metropolitan Fire Service 99 Wakefield St, Adelaide 4 C10 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
Oh No! What happened. MVA involving a responding appliance???
i heard over the radio, "are you clear of the wakney/pultfield relay, over", Nice dislexic moment there adelaide fire ;)
Quote from: calspec on November 19, 2008, 08:38:34 AM
09:27:28 19-11-08 AS81 Cat2 Metropolitan Fire Service 99 Wakefield St, Adelaide 4 C10 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
Oh No! What happened. MVA involving a responding appliance???
Nah, heard there sitrep as car v pedestrian.... :-P
Response time should of been good if they were in station :lol:
CT71 Cat3 Metropolitan Fire Service 99 Wakefield St, Adelaide 4 C10 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
Mod Note: Deleted.....no need for the personal critique of grammar.
Ah, attack of the easily offended moderators!
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
Ah, attack of the easily offended moderators!
:roll: cant please everyone :roll: :-D
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
Ah, attack of the easily offended moderators!
Im in a bad mood today....that line everyone has gets lowered quite a bit on days like today :-D
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.
we all do screw up volunteers and paid staff,CFS has a new course that is out its called......HOW TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT.......
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.
Unfairly? Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.
I think there was more of a demographic attack than a personal attack :-D
Yeah I agree Big Al & I thought it was funny :wink:
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
hey fair call....we can't all be on HRT now can we??
as for demographic Vs personal attack? - my apologies cameron for wanting to belittle people into bettering themselves, even if it is in the form of proper grammar and context.
I do understand that not everyone can have the same level of country SA public school education that I did....those metro eastern suburbs members of this forum pay a lot more for their schooling...and still use çontexts such as "you's guys" or "should of" or "could of".
still I shouldn't be so harsh - not every professional volunteer could be expected to be able to read or write should they?! :evil: :evil: :evil:
Boredy muma says prety soon i can use lead pencils she says they taste reel good to they were uncle dadys favrite before he died like home scoolin rox every days sports day i been sporting a black eye for two weeks now and commas is only fa fancy people. :-D wish the smiley guy had one tooth missin
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on November 20, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.
Unfairly? Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.
So going by this statement you wont be making any further remarks about Gambier group or your ex-brigade captain?
MFS: *CFSRES INC038 21/11/08 13:43,RESPOND RCR,DUKES HWY,YUMALI MAP 000 0 0 TG201,MINI BUS 18 KM ADELAIDE SIDE ENTRAPMENT, 8 X INJURED,CNPN19 CMDK00
Good example of a First Aid Triage incident, cos there wont be enough ambulances for it!
Assuming that if they might need 3 or 4 sent to Adelaide, would it be worthwhile responding RFDS to land on the Road? (somehow where-ever)
update: 1 DOA, 1 Entrap, 8 injured....not nice indeed.
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 21/11/08 13:51,RESPOND Private Alarm,2 HUMBER CT,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 D 7 TG134,,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 MRPH00 STM401
2nd Alarm Private alarm, nice.
MFS: *CFSRES INC041 21/11/08 14:33,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTHERN EXP,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 D 14 TG182,NEAR HONEYPOT RD OVER PASS,CDN439 SEAF00 MRPH00 STM401
Second Alarm vehicle fire??
Im guessing Christies 431 is booked K0 (broken?)
strange that 421 was missing from the 2nd response...
QuoteAssuming that if they might need 3 or 4 sent to Adelaide, would it be worthwhile responding RFDS to land on the Road? (somehow where-ever)
You spoke too soon Zippy :lol: it looks like either Rescue 51 or Rescue 53 has been dispatched to the accident
1919347 14:30:07 21-11-08 MFS: PLEASE MONITOR GRN 020 FOR RESCUE HELICOPTER Coorong Group Officers Response
Quote from: Hicksflat14 on November 21, 2008, 07:06:57 AM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on November 20, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.
Unfairly? Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.
So going by this statement you wont be making any further remarks about Gambier group or your ex-brigade captain?
Back to the topic:
Interesting Fire & Emergency Related Paging . . .
wish the paging streams had different text/background colours...my eyes are struggling these days to read the retro look.
Quote from: Zippy on November 21, 2008, 03:44:24 PM
wish the paging streams had different text/background colours...my eyes are struggling these days to read the retro look.
Don't be suprised if you get headaches Zippy...............With a head like yours it ought to ache! :-) :lol: :-D
Quote from: Zippy on November 21, 2008, 03:44:24 PM
wish the paging streams had different text/background colours...my eyes are struggling these days to read the retro look.
Set up your own paging software....get the right version of PDW & upload it to your own site...then you can have what ever you like!! :-D
Pip
Quote from: Pixie on November 21, 2008, 01:13:26 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC041 21/11/08 14:33,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTHERN EXP,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 D 14 TG182,NEAR HONEYPOT RD OVER PASS,CDN439 SEAF00 MRPH00 STM401
Second Alarm vehicle fire??
Im guessing Christies 431 is booked K0 (broken?)
strange that 421 was missing from the 2nd response...
I saw that one, car & caravan got the wobbles up and jacknifed, facing the opposite direction.No fire involved.401 was COQ at O'Halloran Hill and Christies Downs 439 put a stop on everyone else.
Morphett Vale made it to the end of the Sthn Expressway.
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC041 21/11/08 14:33,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTHERN EXP,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 D 14 TG182,NEAR HONEYPOT RD OVER PASS,CDN439 SEAF00 MRPH00 STM401
439 and Seaford were responded because that road is partly MFS and partly CFS area, Morphett Vale would have been responded because 43 only had one truck in station and therefore they would have been going as 43's second truck (C Class risk now those pesky car fires) and then I can only assume 401 (which was at 42) went because you cannot use CFS as your second truck without responding another MFS pump as well.
Also there is a response plan in place for Stage 2 of the Southern Expressway (Becah road South to Main South road) that says that all CFS appliances respond to the Southern end and MFS appliances to the Beach road end, that way whichever direction the traffic is flowing they will still be able to get onto the Expressway. It was actually for this one and only reason that Seaford were issued with the rapid intervention gear, the theory being that if the Christies trucks were unable to go against the traffic or the Expressway was blocked with cars that Seaford would still be able to make a start from the southern end.
Quote from: RescueHazmat on November 21, 2008, 02:39:20 PM
Quote from: Hicksflat14 on November 21, 2008, 07:06:57 AM
Quote from: Cameron Yelland on November 20, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.
Unfairly? Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.
So going by this statement you wont be making any further remarks about Gambier group or your ex-brigade captain?
Back to the topic:
Interesting Fire & Emergency Related Paging . . .
bucket and spade taken out of the sandpit!!
...and just when we were getting started...you're like the teacher who wouldn't let us organise karate and kickboxing tournaments in the lunch-shed!
Those tournaments were the best hey boredy :lol:
MFS: *CFSRES INC073 22/11/08 17:23,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,TASSIE ST,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,NEAR THOMPSON ST,& SHOREFRONT,SAIR55 PAU519 MFS Pt Augusta Response
Message Only. If your name is on the available responders roster, it would be appreciated if you actually attend fire calls. S/O McNamee MFS Pt Augusta Response
Things not so rosy up in the Port???
They have not been good up at Port for sometime....
You know the guys are P/A do you Bill?
After personally speaking to the S.O the other week, I think you statement is a little blase..
Sure, like all Retained/Vol stations, everyone can have some difficulty during the day for crew. But to say things 'have not been good' is slightly over the top.
I guess you only go by what one member of the station say to you at the time,we all find it hard to get a full crew does not matter if you are paid or vol....
I dont think it is any shock to anyone that Pt Augusta have been struggling lately, you see quite a number of messages requesting more crew from them or mr McNamee letting everyone know that one or two crew are not enough.
It's interesting listening to the retained guys, there are not too many occassions that they get out the door in under 5 mins, most of the time is 7 or 8, and then there are some stations that struggle to crew at all.
Just goes to show that paying people isn't the answer to crewing issues.
1909800 17:43:45 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC061 25/11/08 17:43,RESPOND Tree Fire,PARABANKS SHOPPING COMPLEX,JOHN ST,SALISBURY MAP 71 F 2 TG182,,SAIR55 SAL329 CFS State Air Desk
1909190 17:45:46 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 25/11/08 17:45,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NURLUTTA RAILWAY STATION,COMMERCIAL RD,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 D 12 TG182,,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response
1929264 17:48:41 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 25/11/08 17:48,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KETTERING RD,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 61 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1909800 17:48:35 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 25/11/08 17:48,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KETTERING RD,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 61 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ331 CFS State Air Desk
between this time salisbury was responded via radio to another fire pittman park salisbury
1909800 20:07:05 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC074 25/11/08 20:06,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SALISBURY HWY,SALISBURY MAP 71 B 6 TG182,IN TUNNELS UNDER HWY FROM PITMAN PARK,SAIR55 SAL321 CFS State Air Desk
1909187 20:23:07 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC075 25/11/08 20:22,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,SALISBURY HIGH SCHOOL,FARLEY GR,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 D 15 TG182,BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL AND TRAIN LINE,SAIR55 SLSB19 CFS Para Group Officers Response
if i did not know better ( and know this area) i would say there is a little sob running around salisbury lighting fires!!!!! :x :x :x :x
Isn't that the norm up there anyhow?
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 26/11/08 14:34,RESPOND ALARM 13/137,SAMFS,HEADQUARTERS,93 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 D 10 TG182,#FIP EASTERN ENTRY,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL203
I guess the building was evacuated and they only had to put the lights on the trucks responding without going anywhere!
they might have set it off to test the paging lol
The response time must of been pretty quick, unless some were on the jon!
09:02:20 28-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 28/11/08 09:01,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,BELAIR MAP 142 K 12 TG146,CLEAN UP ONLY 500 M DOWN FROM BP,BKWD19 BELR00 CFS Sturt Group Officers Response
20:17:13 28-11-08 Inc 18 fire scrubby gulley cherry gardens 200 metres north .cherry fire station. respond Cherry gardens Coromandel Valley Blackwood Belair CFS Sturt Group Officers Info
20:51:18 28-11-08 Inc 18 .Respond single vehicle car vs tree 1 entrapment corner Cherry gardens road and Main road Blackwood rescue CFS Sturt Group Officers Info
Can anyone shed any light on what this was all about, there were 44 other different responses between the first and last one, check out the times!
Cheers David
It would appear there was either some training happening, or someone playing games...!
Pip
Quote from: David on November 28, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
09:02:20 28-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 28/11/08 09:01,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,BELAIR MAP 142 K 12 TG146,CLEAN UP ONLY 500 M DOWN FROM BP,BKWD19 BELR00 CFS Sturt Group Officers Response
20:17:13 28-11-08 Inc 18 fire scrubby gulley cherry gardens 200 metres north .cherry fire station. respond Cherry gardens Coromandel Valley Blackwood Belair CFS Sturt Group Officers Info
20:51:18 28-11-08 Inc 18 .Respond single vehicle car vs tree 1 entrapment corner Cherry gardens road and Main road Blackwood rescue CFS Sturt Group Officers Info
Can anyone shed any light on what this was all about, there were 44 other different responses between the first and last one, check out the times!
Cheers David
that would be group op's training ;)
MFS: *CFSRES INC056 29/11/08 18:08,RESPOND Bomb Threat,123 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 7 TG182,ADEL. SHAKESPEARE INT. BACKPACKERS,40
Quote from: Zippy on November 29, 2008, 02:52:35 AM
Quote from: David on November 28, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
09:02:20 28-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 28/11/08 09:01,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,BELAIR MAP 142 K 12 TG146,CLEAN UP ONLY 500 M DOWN FROM BP,BKWD19 BELR00 CFS Sturt Group Officers Response
20:17:13 28-11-08 Inc 18 fire scrubby gulley cherry gardens 200 metres north .cherry fire station. respond Cherry gardens Coromandel Valley Blackwood Belair CFS Sturt Group Officers Info
20:51:18 28-11-08 Inc 18 .Respond single vehicle car vs tree 1 entrapment corner Cherry gardens road and Main road Blackwood rescue CFS Sturt Group Officers Info
Can anyone shed any light on what this was all about, there were 44 other different responses between the first and last one, check out the times!
Cheers David
that would be group op's training ;)
Not quite the first one was an actual job involving a collision between two vehicles and a 100 metre oil spill as a result.Old Belair Rd was closed for almost 2 hours
Belair 34P on scene and Sturt Deputy blocking the road at the top.
The other paging was a exercise as Sturt Group train on friday nights :wink:
that would be group op's training ;)
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Not quite the first one was an actual job involving a collision between two vehicles and a 100 metre oil spill as a result.Old Belair Rd was closed for almost 2 hours
Belair 34P on scene and Sturt Deputy blocking the road at the top.
The other paging was a exercise as Sturt Group train on friday nights :wink:
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Knew there was a reasonable answer, Thanks
Cheers David
MFS: *CFSRES INC019 30/11/08 10:17,RESPOND Assist Resident,14 LUKIN CR,GOLDEN GROVE MAP 72 K 12 TG182,CALL FROM THESE PREMISES DROPPED OUT TH,ERE IS ASPECIAL MESSAGE ON THIS ADDRESS,31
Does any one know any thing about this?
I am assuming MFS Comms have similar Hazard warning systems that SAAS & SAPol use, in relation to things like nuisance callers, regular MFA's, aggressive occupants etc etc at a particular address, so all crews attending are aware.
I believe this address relates to behaviour of the occupant.
Pip
What i mean is i wonder what the incident is.
Quote from: SA Firey on November 29, 2008, 07:31:33 PM
The other paging was a exercise as Sturt Group train on friday nights :wink:
Part of it does, anyway. The more enlightened part prefer to keep their
Friday nights for having a life. :-D
Must say I grabbed for the pager when I saw the print above. :-o
Thanks for the explanation.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on November 30, 2008, 01:15:25 PM
What i mean is i wonder what the incident is.
Behaviour of the occupant of the house, in relation to calling the Fire Service repeatedly for things that he shouldn't.
Pip
FROM LINC BASE: SPEED CAMERAS IN PL THIS WEEK INCLUDING ST ANDREWS TCE 01/12/08 08:43:46 CFS Lincoln Response
Quote from: Pipster on November 30, 2008, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on November 30, 2008, 01:15:25 PM
What i mean is i wonder what the incident is.
Behaviour of the occupant of the house, in relation to calling the Fire Service repeatedly for things that he shouldn't.
Pip
Thanks
1909090 12:08:31 02-12-08 NEW APPLIANCE ARRIVES FOR XMAS. TUES DEC 9TH. AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE TO BE HERE AT YANKALILLA BASE 1700HRS FOR FAMILIARIZATION PRESENTATION. J.EDGE From Sthn Fleurieu GCC 02/12/08 12:10:15
So is this the 2 year old 34P they are finally getting?
That has to be a CFS World Record.
if its already that old, it may aswell go out to North Shields, instead of a *better* Varley 34P.
14:28:24 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 14:27,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,TI TREE RD PROSPECT HILL ,PROSPECT HILL MAP 0 0 0,ASSIST STAR FORCE WITH WINCHING PATIENT,AFTER MVA - P1,STR029 SES Strathalbyn
For curiousity sake... Does anyone know the circumstances that led to this? :?
Star force deal with technical rescue, and probably do it better.... When ever it involves rescue 51 most of the time.
A vehicle crash, where patient ended up down a steep embankment.... sounds like some difficulty in getting him out of the location...
Pip
Here are the full set of pager messages
Quote1908002 14:40:18 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 14:39,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,TI TREE RD PROSPECT HILL ,PROSPECT HILL MAP 0 0 0,WINCHING OF PATIENT - BACK UP STRATH SES,MTB020 SES Mt Barker Response
1908910 14:30:41 04-12-08 MFS: MEADOWS - RESCUE HELICOPTER MOBILE - LANDING SITE NEEDED - GO TO GRN 020 ASAP CFS Meadows Response
1908083 14:28:24 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 14:27,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,TI TREE RD PROSPECT HILL ,PROSPECT HILL MAP 0 0 0,ASSIST STAR FORCE WITH WINCHING PATIENT,AFTER MVA - P1,STR029 SES Strathalbyn
1924962 13:51:03 04-12-08 SO74 Cat2 Ti-tree Rd, Prospect Hill FUEL SPILLAGE SAAS Road Crash Research
1908910 13:12:28 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 13:10,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BLACKFELLOWS CREEK CFS,BLACKFELLOWS CRE MAP 0 0 0 TG142,2 KM ON THE LEFT ON TI TREE ROAD FROM TH,E CNR OF TI TREE AND MILLIGAN RD,MCMP19 BKCR00 MDWS19 CFS Meadows Response
1909031 13:12:26 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 13:10,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BLACKFELLOWS CREEK CFS,BLACKFELLOWS CRE MAP 0 0 0 TG142,2 KM ON THE LEFT ON TI TREE ROAD FROM TH,E CNR OF TI TREE AND MILLIGAN RD,MCMP19 BKCR00 MDWS19 CFS Blackfellows Creek Response
1908895 13:12:13 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 13:10,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BLACKFELLOWS CREEK CFS,BLACKFELLOWS CRE MAP 0 0 0 TG142,2 KM ON THE LEFT ON TI TREE ROAD FROM TH,E CNR OF TI TREE AND MILLIGAN RD,MCMP19 BKCR00 MDWS19 CFS Mount Compass Response
1924962 13:09:18 04-12-08 MV71 Cat2 Ti-tree Rd, Prospect Hill FUEL SPILLAGE SAAS Road Crash Research
They had concerns regarding the Chopper vs weather and terrain at the time.
SES = Plan B
Interesting that Noarlunga SES were called last week (I think) to a 20yr old down a cliff at Onkaparinga, to assist. Now the Prospect Hill vertical Rescue incident.
Must be summer & people more 'out & about'.
Hibernation's taken a while to wear off this year hasnt it....
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 17/12/08 17:53,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,19 COPELAND AV,LOBETHAL MAP 113 B 16 TG140,PUFFS OF SMOKE COMING OUT OF THE CAVITY,LOBE19
I was of the understanding that it is automatic 2 brigades to all domestic jobs? or is that just in my area?
Kind of scary having only 1 truck respond to a reported domestic, in its incipient stage! :?
***take note, this is only going from the pager site***
Quote from: Pixie on December 17, 2008, 04:41:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 17/12/08 17:53,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,19 COPELAND AV,LOBETHAL MAP 113 B 16 TG140,PUFFS OF SMOKE COMING OUT OF THE CAVITY,LOBE19
I was of the understanding that it is automatic 2 brigades to all domestic jobs? or is that just in my area?
Kind of scary having only 1 truck respond to a reported domestic, in its incipient stage! :?
***take note, this is only going from the pager site***
The default response type of "Domestic Fire" can cover a wide range of different incidents. It doesn't always mean that the house is going from end to end. As long as comms has made an appropriate decision based on the information they have, all is well.
Lobethal does have 2 fire appliances that carry BA so just them being responded makes sense. If they cant crew them or want more resources then it becomes their call.
Quote from: Pixie on December 17, 2008, 04:41:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 17/12/08 17:53,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,19 COPELAND AV,LOBETHAL MAP 113 B 16 TG140,PUFFS OF SMOKE COMING OUT OF THE CAVITY,LOBE19
I was of the understanding that it is automatic 2 brigades to all domestic jobs? or is that just in my area?
Kind of scary having only 1 truck respond to a reported domestic, in its incipient stage! :?
***take note, this is only going from the pager site***
Lobethal did respond 2 appliances and also Woodside were responded also.
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 17/12/08 18:04,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,19 COPELAND AV,LOBETHAL MAP 113 B 16 TG140,,WDSD00 CFS Woodside Response
Quote from: Pixie on December 17, 2008, 04:41:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 17/12/08 17:53,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,19 COPELAND AV,LOBETHAL MAP 113 B 16 TG140,PUFFS OF SMOKE COMING OUT OF THE CAVITY,LOBE19
I was of the understanding that it is automatic 2 brigades to all domestic jobs? or is that just in my area?
Kind of scary having only 1 truck respond to a reported domestic, in its incipient stage! :?
***take note, this is only going from the pager site***
CFS SOP is two appliances [which usually means two brigades...] however the vollies in some areas without BOMs data get too make there own decision on ALERTS.
My personal preference would be two brigades, due to the nature of vollunteer organisations not being able to garauntee crews.
1909267 16:16:39 19-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 19/12/08 16:15,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,6 RIDDOCH HWY,TARPEENA MAP 000 0 0 TG226,AUSPINE LIMITED 8 STORY HIGH FUEL BIN CO,NTAINING SAW DUST ALIGHT,TRPN00 WNDL00 CFS Tarpeena Response
Sounds like fun........ NOT :-o
MFS: *CFSRES INC043 20/12/08 13:56,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GORGE RD,ATHELSTONE MAP 96 Q 16 TG182,MOTORBIKE FALL 4K PAST KANGAROO CK LOOKO,UT,ATHL19 GLY221 CFS Athelstone Response
Nice drive for Glynde, now 4 kms past would make it Cudlee Creek, not Athelstone :-o
SAAS seem to have a more precise location RP81 Cat2 Gorge Rd, Paracombe 98 L14 SAAS Road Crash Research
That's a norm, other MFS appliances have travelled greater distances than where Glynde are travelling :wink:
I knew this would come up :lol:, but the accident was 1k before the dam wall which makes it Castambul.
not listening to it, but saw this on pager site...
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC065 20/12/08 17:52,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,35 COMMERCIAL RD,HYDE PARK MAP 130 F 10 TG182,,ADL205 41 GLO441 ADL203 ADL202
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 20/12/08 19:11,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,35 COMMERCIAL RD,HYDE PARK MAP 130 F 10 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 20/12/08 19:19,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,35 COMMERCIAL RD,HYDE PARK MAP 130 F 10 TG182,441 ON SCENE,ADL202
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 20/12/08 19:29,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,35 COMMERCIAL RD,HYDE PARK MAP 130 F 10 TG182,,ADL204 ADL203 STM401 41 ADL205
MFS: *CFSRES INC073 20/12/08 19:33,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,35 COMMERCIAL RD,HYDE PARK MAP 130 F 10 TG182,ENTER UNLEY RD,ADL206
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 20/12/08 19:55,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,35 COMMERCIAL RD,HYDE PARK MAP 130 F 10 TG182,,BLP211
actual job? or something else?
If it is a going job, sounds... interesting...
Even for the same address and likely to be the same incident, why 3 different task numbers?
Quote from: 6739264 on December 20, 2008, 07:31:25 PM
If it is a going job, sounds... interesting...
First job was a grass fire, crews were responded back there later for house going well 2nd alarm, and is being treated as suspicious :wink:
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24829090-5006301,00.html
A HOUSE fire causing $100,000 damage is being treated as suspicious by the Metropolitan Fire Service.
Crews were called to the unoccupied home on Commercial Rd Hyde Park around 6pm to extinguish a small grass fire.
At 7:30pm crews returned to the same address to find the whole house ablaze.
It took more than twenty fire fighters to bring the fire under control.
Surely, idiots can find something else better to do than risk lives, if they ever get caught, i would like to meet them.... :wink:
CFS: BOMBERS 581/584 AND SPOTTER 505 PLEASE REVERT TO ACTIVE STANDBY - SARC CANT > 21/12/2008 3:21:34 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580 & 582 RELOCATE TO TURKEY LANE AIRSTRIP, KANGAROO ISLAND - SARC CANT > 21/12/2008 3:51:15 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
CFS: ***CORRECTION*** BOMBERS 580 & 582 RELOCATE TO KINGSCOTE AIRPORT - SARC CANT > 21/12/2008 3:52:34 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
interesting....maybe somethin to do with the lightning coming across from the west...anyone for a pre christmas holiday to wonderful KI?
Looking at the Weatherzone lightning tracker it seems to be a nasty band of lightning heading right for KI and the South East :-o
Quoteanyone for a pre christmas holiday to wonderful KI?
Maybe you should make that pre christmas holiday to the wonderful Limestone Coast :lol:
KGSC BRIGADE: RESPOND TO STATION IMMEDIATELY. 2 CREWS REQUIRED FOR BOMBER SUPPORT INCOMING AIRCRAFT. KGSC COMMS CFS Kingscote Response
MFS: BE AWARE, THERE ARE LIGHTNING STRIKES EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HRS - KI BASE 21/12/2008 4:08:22 PM CFS KI Group Info
not leaving anything to chance by looks of it especially after last year.
Yer you are right there it looks like KI is going to get a good ol fashioned spanking shortly by dry lightning and the South East is next once the lightning has passed over KI :|
I won't be going, one free trip to KI is more than enough....never again
lightning hittin LEP around cummins as we speak
Woo hoo bring on the late night/early morning fire calls :-D
Quote from: mac13 on December 21, 2008, 04:27:48 PM
lightning hittin LEP around cummins as we speak
Looks like multiple grassfires there atm.
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on December 21, 2008, 04:45:24 PM
Woo hoo bring on the late night/early morning fire calls :-D
Robert, your a sick person mate... Check yourself in.
Quote from: OMGWTF on December 21, 2008, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on December 21, 2008, 04:45:24 PM
Woo hoo bring on the late night/early morning fire calls :-D
Robert, your a sick person mate... Check yourself in.
<Bangs head on wall>
Oh Robert, you've done it again :roll:
MFS: *CFSRES INC036 23/12/08 13:48,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,68 NORTHGATE ST,UNLEY PARK MAP 130 E 11 TG182,WALL COLLAPSED ON PERSON ON 1 ST FLOOR.,P1. FROM SAAS. NOT ON SCENE.,MIT020 SDO050 GLO441 ADL203 ADL204 41
SDO050... State Duty Officer? I tried having a look at the old SES unit numbers threads, but couldn't find anything
Quote from: 6739264 on December 23, 2008, 12:53:06 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC036 23/12/08 13:48,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,68 NORTHGATE ST,UNLEY PARK MAP 130 E 11 TG182,WALL COLLAPSED ON PERSON ON 1 ST FLOOR.,P1. FROM SAAS. NOT ON SCENE.,MIT020 SDO050 GLO441 ADL203 ADL204 41
SDO050... State Duty Officer? I tried having a look at the old SES unit numbers threads, but couldn't find anything
Pre-prepared response to let State Duty Officer SES know of high priority calls (eg Marine Rescue) that could require multi-unit & paid staff response.
MFS vehicle ADL204 paged to another job at 1503, so unsure how big a life threat job this was. Will wait for the AdvertiserNow website to see if it gives further details.
Person was not trapped on arrival of MFS, gyprock had given way and fallen on someone, broken bones and bruising..
1908869 19:21:11 24-12-08 Transit approved for sleigh and reindeer from 1930 to 0430 hrs as per flight plan. Approval granted for multiple landing areas as desired. Fine weather forecast, no snow expected. Merry Xmas! - ADL Airport Tower. CFS East Torrens Group Info
82,TOP OF KENSINGTON RD,BURN19 SAIR55 BLP211 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
1930429 00:42:45 25-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 25/12/08 00:42,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,KENSINGTON RD,WATTLE PARK MAP 119 L 11 TG182,TOP OF KENSINGTON RD,BURN19 SAIR55 BLP211 MFS Beulah Park 211
1930656 00:42:44 25-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 25/12/08 00:42,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,KENSINGTON RD,WATTLE PARK MAP 119 L 11 TG1 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
1909800 00:42:43 25-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 25/12/08 00:42,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,KENSINGTON RD,WATTLE PARK MAP 119 L 11 TG182,TOP OF KENSINGTON RD,BURN19 SAIR55 BLP211 CFS State Air Desk
1908991 00:42:35 25-12-08 82,TOP OF KENSINGTON RD,BURN19 SAIR55 BLP211 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
1908995 00:42:33 25-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 25/12/08 00:42,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,KENSINGTON RD,WATTLE PARK MAP 119 L 11 TG182,TOP OF KENSINGTON RD,BURN19 SAIR55 BLP211 CFS Burnside Response
1908991 00:42:33 25-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 25/12/08 00:42,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,KENSINGTON RD,WATTLE PARK MAP 119 L 11 TG1 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
I think they'll eventually get the message!
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 25/12/08 08:53,RESPOND ALARM 12/018,ELDERS HOUSE,27 CURRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 P 6 TG182,FIP INSIDE MAIN FOYER NEXT TO LIFT,,AD2017
FYI, this is a second ladder appliance, adelaide don't have 1,let alone 2!
nope thats a Pod Truck....oh and merry christmas :)
I thought a pod truck was '23?. Merry christmas!
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 26, 2008, 08:28:59 AM
I thought a pod truck was '23?. Merry christmas!
Nope 23 is the Salvage Pod :wink:
A few numbers were changed eariler this year...i think the Heavy Rescue Pod is 2047 ??
i think 2017 could be the BA Pod...something that i cant remember for once! woo
Quote from: Zippy on December 26, 2008, 09:20:36 AM
A few numbers were changed eariler this year...i think the Heavy Rescue Pod is 2047 ??
i think 2017 could be the BA Pod...something that i cant remember for once! woo
2017 is the 1st Hook Lift Truck....2016 is the BA Pod Zippy :wink:
The Hook trucks are 2017, 2037 and 2047 - the callsign 2016 only comes about when the normal 206 is off the run, the PODS don't change the callsign.
MFS: *CFSRES INC037 28/12/08 16:03,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CHURCHILL RD,KILBURN MAP 93 P 10 TG182,2ND ALARM. 361 SO WHITE ON SCENE,AD2015 ADL206 AD2091 OAK303 PAD251 WDV243
2091- can someone clarify this, 2090 is first comms. bus, 2092 is second? according to a cfs website....
it was 2090 at the job....but as for WHICH 2090, who knows.
The brand new 2090 was there....photos to come soon....
Pip
LTHT INFO: SEEING WE DID A LOT OF MAINTENANCE LAST WEEK, WE WILL BE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES FOR TONIGHTS TRAINING, NAMELY GUITAR HERO ON THE WII. DON''T MISS IT! - CAPT CFS Littlehampton Info
MRPH INFO; OPERATIONAL BULLETIN #21 AND ASSOCIATED SOP's ARE IN YOUR PIGEON HOLE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND THESE SOP's IN PARTICULAR IF YOU ARE THE OIC OF FIRST ARRIVING APPLIANCE. BRG .CPT. - MAWSON BASE CFS Morphett Vale Info
Anyone in the know of what the bulletin relates too?
Quote from: Zippy on December 30, 2008, 11:42:57 AM
Anyone in the know of what the bulletin relates too?
efficient use of the GRN radio. Each GRN agency has done one:
http://sacfs.org/publications/CFS_Bulletin_21_2008-Efficient_GRN_Use.pdf
http://sacfs.org/publications/SAAS_Radio_Procedure_Reminder_Dec2008.pdf
they keep forgetting to say Talkgroups only take up Tower capacity if someone actually PTT's!
Leaving a radio on 124 24/7, the nearest tower will only broadcast 124's voice traffic when somebody's talking. Otherwise, your just on the tower control channel like everyone else.
We even got the SAAS reminder at work. Even though we only switch the GRN on when we are doing a transport to town. Must be subject of the month.
I think you'll find that the relevant service is billed for time that each GRN radio is turned on.
eh...no. Its a fixed cost contract for providing the service to the services.
Quote from: Hockey 1 on December 31, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
I think you'll find that the relevant service is billed for time that each GRN radio is turned on.
not that chestnut again, that's incorrect, it doesn't work like that.
Quote from: Zippy on December 31, 2008, 09:30:11 AM
the nearest tower will only broadcast 124's voice traffic when somebody's talking
Zippy, yes largely correct, if no traffic is on the talkgroup then no site voice frequency (ie. 'resource') is in use, but the radio is still using a 'slot' on the system (for your radio ID) and still taking up some space ('bandwidth' if you like) on the inter-site links, but that is all pretty minimal compared to using a site voice freq.
The biggest problem is people who are at an incident and have a radio on a talkgroup that is not being used as part of that incident, as traffic on that 'non-incident talkgroup' is then taking up local site resources that could be being used for talkgroups to run the incident, therefore increasing the likelihood of network busies for everyone, compromising the running of the incident and in the end, everyone's safety.
Quote from: Darius on January 01, 2009, 07:15:28 PM
The biggest problem is people who are at an incident and have a radio on a talkgroup that is not being used as part of that incident, as traffic on that 'non-incident talkgroup' is then taking up local site resources that could be being used for talkgroups to run the incident, therefore increasing the likelihood of network busies for everyone, compromising the running of the incident and in the end, everyone's safety.
yeah yeah yeah.....but we will all do it when something sounds like its going well.....so lets move on, human nature is what it is.....despite the Op Bulletins. If its an issue...go simplex local area only - oh yeah....CFS dont do that do they :lol:
We dont all do it actually... Im sure you like everyone else misterteddy has spat the dummy over network busies, however its that attitude that compounds the problem.
They will (& do) check talkgroup usage at large incidents if network busies are prominent... and i certainly dont want to be on the recieving end of a serve from my GO when he questions us about misuse of talkgroups. If the incident concerns you that much, ring your base and ask.
*end rant* :) ;)
Rant rating 3/10 . No filtered swearing, no real pouting and no foot stomping, much too learn glasshopper! :-D
QuoteThey will (& do) check talkgroup usage at large incidents if network busies are prominent... and i certainly dont want to be on the recieving end of a serve from my GO when he questions us about misuse of talkgroups. If the incident concerns you that much, ring your base and ask.
Or buy something which they call a scanner and monitor an incident on it that way wont get a serve from your GO about misuse of talkgroups :lol:
Quote from: jaff on January 04, 2009, 12:17:20 AM
Rant rating 3/10 . No filtered swearing, no real pouting and no foot stomping, much too learn glasshopper! :-D
Online ranting is a skill to be aquired, and i do have to set at least a slightly example ;) Face to face ranting is much more fun!
Quote from: Mike on January 03, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
We dont all do it actually... Im sure you like everyone else misterteddy has spat the dummy over network busies, however its that attitude that compounds the problem.
They will (& do) check talkgroup usage at large incidents if network busies are prominent... and i certainly dont want to be on the recieving end of a serve from my GO when he questions us about misuse of talkgroups. If the incident concerns you that much, ring your base and ask.
*end rant* :) ;)
bah......when ur finished in fantasy land, your welcome to rejoin the real world. OOOOOH.....a serve from my GO, now thats a shake in my boots sort of encounter.
As for spitting the dummy with busies.....nah, why waste effort about what happens with a GRN radio....its an accessory, if it works, great, when it doesnt, life still continues, fires still get extinguished and jobs still run. They didnt work at Mt Osmond, or Onka Goerge, or Mt Bold.....so don't get reliant on them when the big one comes to a location near you. In fact, it would be really nice when the big one does happen, to be able to switch the filtered thing off rather than listen to the endless drivel that ties up hours of talkgroup time. Brevity would be a nice concept for all concerned (MFS, CFS and SES) to understand. Maybe we should go back to VHF line of sight comms....if u cant see the fire, you dont need to know about it - but sadly i dont think our systemic need to control would allow that.
the mfs seem's to have it way better, just have the 150 dribble away ignore it, and pay attention to the local simplex 182 for your incident.
Imagine never having to report to your local station or group base ever again.
Have Group Forward Command posts for higher alarm incidents.
Everyone in Region 1 Listen to 124...give Arrival's, Requests, upgrades, stop messages to Adelaide Fire.
All other comm's would just be done via the simplex "line of sight radios".
And imagine, no sitreps, the incident escalates to something waaayy too big, and no-one else knows about it...
Pip
hmmm, true. But, im with Mister-teddy, Incident Controlling with Less worry about the Radio may or may not be a good thing.
As for MFS, pretty much the purpose of 2090 is to act as the "Group Base" for Higher Alarm/Risk incidents, and 2090 feed stuff back to adelaide fire nearly every 5-15mins while operational.
Wouldnt mind seeing 2090 operate a rural job some day. Incident controller and Operations officer can sit in comfort heh.
Quote from: Zippy on January 04, 2009, 06:01:33 PM
Wouldnt mind seeing 2090 operate a rural job some day. Incident controller and Operations officer can sit in comfort heh.
wouldn't mind seeing 2090 on blocks and used for homeless accomodation somewhere in Elizabeth. All it does is bring the micro-managers closer to you...why would u wish that upon urself?? If they need to sit in comfort, if they need smart boards up the kazoo, if they need 30 talk groups and if they DON'T need to see the fire....then leave them at HQ.
The need to feed endless "story" back to 150/124 Comms is a furfy.....it is a radio room thats all. It actions our requests and is currently used to record stuff from the crew (for legal and other purposes), hence the very long winded and very time consuming dumb arse sitreps we keep hearing - but it is not a Controlling function. Thats the purvey of the Incident Controller. Equip the IC correctly with a Tough tablet PC and a bunch of simple off the shelf software, and all that radio chatter is gone, and all the necessary info is available, and a whole bunch more. Only talk to Adelaide Fire (or Group HQ or Div Command or anyone else) to explain why you need more toys (the actual request can be automated) or to tell them u've had enough and sent all the boys and girls home for smoko.
Sending a bus (sorry .... coach) with Senior Officers, radios, tv, desks and whiteboards in it to help you manage a fire is about as close to 21st century thinking as proban one piece overalls and 2 feet long straight bore branches are for serious firefighting. Oh yeaaah.....we still use them don't we......silly me, my bad. Maybe some stop/go bats in the bus would be a good idea and SAPOL can be relieved from traffic control to then be able to respond to the local hospitals when needed.
good thinking mister teddy...but scheiße will still hit the fan, cos someone didnt attend the operational update sessions.
13:49:41 06-01-09 TRAINING TONIGHT BE PREPARED FOR YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE. REGARDS MARK LT2. CFS Cudlee Creek Info
Oh no! :-P
Quote from: Zippy on January 06, 2009, 12:55:42 PM
13:49:41 06-01-09 TRAINING TONIGHT BE PREPARED FOR YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE. REGARDS MARK LT2. CFS Cudlee Creek Info
Oh no! :-P
oh yes....that timeless classic of fear and unforgiving terror......
The Dead-Man Zone
MFS: *CFSRES INC068 06/01/09 16:40,RESPOND SHED FIRE,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 H 9 TG182,CNR GRENFELL ST,ADL201 MFS Stn 20
Must be the stinky automatic toliets, give em a good wash boys
1924962 21:10:10 07-01-09 S181 Cat2 Germantown Hill, Bridgewater SAAS Road Crash Research
1908998 21:41:15 07-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 07/01/09 21:40,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT BARKER RD,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 F 15 TG136,ON GERMANTOWN HILL BETWEEN BRIDGEWATER A,ND HAHNDORF ABOUT 1KM FROM JARRETS,STRL19 BRDG00 CFS Stirling Response
WOW WOW WOW :-o
MFS: *CFSRES INC081 10/01/09 22:45,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,REGENCY RD,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 177 J 5 TG182,CNR SHERWOOD CAR VERSES SCOOTER,MRPH00 OHH421 CFS Morphett Vale Response
Closest resource eh I think not :?
1908978 21:44:16 10-01-09 Kangarilla24 offline until further notice. All calls now treated as 3rd alarm until further notice. Kang Capt. - KANGARILLA STATION 1/10/2009 9:43:39 PM
So does this include Stock on road :-D
LOLOLOL... third alarm what a over kill,just page another brigade how hard is that to do.....
MFS: *CFSRES INC093 13/01/09 17:36,RESPOND Assist Police,JULIAN TCE,GAWLER MAP 23 M 10 TG182,REMOVE BODY FROM CREEK BEHIND KINGSFORD,HOTEL,GAW359
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES: Seaford RESPOND Car Fire, Sauerbiers 195 N9 Seaford Meadows, dirt tr 14/01/2009 9:34:27 PM
New paging format??
If so I'm not a fan... I much prefer old(previous) style
Where's the Daily Inc# gone?? makes it much easier to be responding to Inc#Blah, rather than having to name the incident by its location before having full confirmation of the actual location.
what do the comm's operators on here think about this matter??
the MFS Bom's dispatch system is down. The current format was used by CFS SOCC, it was clear cut and precise. Both format's have there advantages pixie.
The comm's operators will know where your going even if you vaugely say the location "Mobile, Car Fire, Seaford, Over". The Incident number system is just a for comcen operator ease of use of the system and also keeping grn air time available.
It just gets filtered when the call rate per hour goes up for comcen.
Think zippy is on the money, BOMS is having a hissy, this isn't the normal format
Quote from: Pixie on January 14, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES: Seaford RESPOND Car Fire, Sauerbiers 195 N9 Seaford Meadows, dirt tr 14/01/2009 9:34:27 PM
New paging format??
No.
Just curious, when paged to a car fire this morning they forgot to add the CFSRES bit and hence only went off in the message tone.
I rang Adelaide fire as soon as i got in my car to have them set off the pagers with the alert tone.
It took nearly 3 mins for this page to come through and when it did they used the URGMSG prefix and set our siren off.
a) why does it take so long to generate a page like this
and b) Comms seem to use the URGMSG prefix alot for stop calls and the like and would set of quite a few town sirens in the process, why is this?
Not having a go just curious thats all :-)
a lot of them dont understand the difference between nothing, CFSRES & URGMSG.
Nothing: Info Tone
CFSRES: Response Tone
URGMSG: Urgent Response Tone & siren
they should be able to remember those three things....they get paid to???
Put your siren on Manual activation only to avoid the incompetency leading to unwanted noise.
At least it was a job worthy of the siren going even if it was for 10 seconds only :lol:
CFSRES also sets of come siresns
yeah...old school lol
Quote from: bittenyakka on January 15, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
CFSRES also sets of come siresns
How does that work? I thought it was just *URGMSG:
When we had the old link pagers when ever there was a fire call SOC would set off our station siren at the same time as the pager but this was stopped after we finished using the 163 MHz VHF Radios and switched to SAGRN
Quote from: mengcfs on January 15, 2009, 12:34:13 PM
Quote from: bittenyakka on January 15, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
CFSRES also sets of come siresns
How does that work? I thought it was just *URGMSG:
Probably depends on how your FSI is set up.
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 15, 2009, 09:01:53 AM
At least it was a job worthy of the siren going even if it was for 10 seconds only :lol:
Ah yes Al but was it worth getting the truck "bogged" as well :evil:
The way BOMS is set up, when you send pager msg emergency it adds URGMSG, there is no way for us to take it out, which sucks. People should use the plain Pager Message. As for the time delay, well, not sure, I can't speak for the operators on shift.
All I can say is hurry up CAD, Pleeeeeease hurry up !
As for those that get the sirens on CFSRES, that at this stage is only done for Mt Lofty group, and was done after a lot of bashing from them. It has to be done at the FSI, the issue is, it goes off for EVERY call, and causes havoc with the bushfire hotline, as every resident in the area from Ironbank to Bridgewater thinks there is a fire coming for them, when you tell them its a fixed alarm at Stirling Woolworths they aren't happy !
Can probably expect that to be even worse now that the Mitcham Hills community has campaigned for the sirens to be used for evacuations Darren. I can just imagine the siren noise from Upper Sturt or Coromandel Valley being heard in blackwood and causing mass hysteria.
The use of Wail for Responses, and continuous for Bushfire Emergency may be wise to promote. Hysteria is something we've gotta avoid, and so is politics!
Siren used to be continuous for a Fire Call, and Wail(3 times)for All Clear, otherwise the schools would'nt let the kids on the school buses until they heard it. :wink:
Quote from: SA Firey on January 15, 2009, 02:06:10 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 15, 2009, 09:01:53 AM
At least it was a job worthy of the siren going even if it was for 10 seconds only :lol:
Ah yes Al but was it worth getting the truck "bogged" as well :evil:
I didn't bogg it so i don't mind. :-D
Quote from: Alex on January 15, 2009, 02:52:48 PM
Can probably expect that to be even worse now that the Mitcham Hills community has campaigned for the sirens to be used for evacuations Darren. I can just imagine the siren noise from Upper Sturt or Coromandel Valley being heard in blackwood and causing mass hysteria.
or wait for the gridlock to occur fisrt time they go off as everyone tries to drive home
just goes to show that we cant get the message we want across to people...time for a new message....and a new method
Mmmmm what is more concerning, is that i live in Coro Valley and just received a letter from the CFS explaining this system, however im guessing we shouldnt have since it doesnt apply to this area... Could be a problem since the siren here activates for all incident types.
well our siren goes for everything and is on wail so you can tell the difference between it and aldgate's and summertown which are continuous.
What is the advantage to the siren sounding for all jobs ?? Is this for the benefit of the brigade, i.e. the possibility of a pager not activating, or is it for the community to alert them to an incident ?? I'm just curious as what the thought process was for the Lofty Group in having a siren sound for every job.
For info it is possible to setup the FSI to only activate the siren at certain times on certain days of the week, or between certain months if that was what you wanted. It is also possible to use other keywords to activate the siren (apart from URGMSG or CFSRES) so you may use a combination of CFSRES and GRASS FIRE and set some time limits if you only wanted it to activate for rural fires in summer. There is a fair bit of flexibility in the system once you start to dig down and play with it.
For info we don't have a siren at all at Morphett Vale, hasn't been an issue for us.
Looks like since the latest BOMS upgrade there has been some formatting changes to the response pager messages.
It appears that now a few spaces are being missed and words are running into each other, just to make life that little bit more confusing for guys responding to incidents.
MFS: *CFSRES INC021 16/01/09 11:25,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,RUWOLDTRD,YAHL MAP 000 0 0 TG226,ALARM IN CEILING SPACE AT THE OAKSNURSI,NG HOME THEY ARE EVAC PATIENTS,YAHL00 MTG701
MFS: *CFSRES INC019 16/01/09 10:41,RESPOND Tree Down,40 STURTAPP,FLAGSTAFF HILL MAP 166 K 6,TREE DOWN ON HOUSE, BLOCKING ACCESSTO D,OOR. P3. RICKY 0416 389 994,STT020
MFS: *CFSRES INC017 16/01/09 10:26,RESPOND ALARM 40/111,FLINDERS MEDICALCENTRE,FLINDERS DR,BEDFORD PARK MAP 153 K 5 TG182,FIP MIMIC-SOUTHWARD MAIN FOYER ENTRY,,ADL205 STM409 OHH421
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 16/01/09 09:35,RESPOND Smoke in Area,CHARFORDST,ELIZABETH NORTH MAP 52 B 5 TG182,SMELL OF SMOKE TOWARDS ELIZSHOPPING CEN,TRE AROUND CHARFORD ST,SAIR55 ELZ331
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 16/01/09 00:00,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,81 NORTHRD,NAIRNE MAP 162 A 8 TG128,SINGLE CAR ROLL OVER,MBKR19 NAIR00
Not a major drama but you would think with an upgrade you would also see an improvement, not a reduction in service (although anyone that has used Vista may also be able to relate to that).
lol fail...its a glitch they probably havent noticed yet... There appears to be no correlation to amount of Characters...just merely where the glitch occurs.
Id like to see the Time of Day moved to the End of Message, after the Callsigns responded.
Easiest way to get something done is to complain, but don't complain to the comms guys, complain to region or CFS HQ and get them to chase it up via DO Moir, THEN something will get done.
Quote from: Darren on January 16, 2009, 05:17:55 PM
Easiest way to get something done is to complain, but don't complain to the comms guys, complain to region or CFS HQ and get them to chase it up via DO Moir, THEN something will get done.
Yeah right.
1909800 03:46:48 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 17/01/09 03:47,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,LEARMONTHTCE,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 OAK301 CFS State Air Desk
1909800 03:30:56 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 17/01/09 03:32,RESPOND Tree Fire,DURAND TCE,ENFIELDMAP 94 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 OAK301 CFS State Air Desk
1909800 03:19:22 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 17/01/09 03:19,RESPOND RUBBISH
FIRE,DARLINGTONST,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 11 TG182,CNR MAIN NORTH,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk
1930428 03:16:30 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 17/01/09 03:17,RESPOND ALARM 37/040,ENFIELD PLAZA,449MAIN NORTH RD,ENFIELD MAP 94 E 9 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY,,OAK303 APK361ADL202 MFS Stn 20
1909800 03:15:22 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 17/01/09 03:16,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,WARWICKST,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 14 TG182,BEHIND MCDONALDS ON MAIN NTH RD,SAIR55OAK301 CFS State Air Desk
1909800 03:06:03 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 17/01/09 03:07,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,LEARMONTHTCE,ENFIELD MAP 94 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk
1909187 03:03:32 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 17/01/09 03:04,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,1130 NORTH EASTRD,ST AGNES MAP 84 N 14 TG182,FIRECRACKER HAS HIT PREMISES,SMOKECOMING FROM ROOF SPACE,GGV311 TTGY19 OAK303 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1909800 02:40:07 17-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC009 17/01/09 02:41,RESPOND Tree Fire,COX TCE,NORTHFIELDMAP 94 Q 8 TG182,,SAIR55 OAK301 CFS State Air Desk
Busy time for Oakden
Well that is what they get paid for. :wink: (Considering a couple of them are Prospect :wink:)
Quote from: mattb on January 16, 2009, 10:06:30 AM
I'm just curious as what the thought process was for the Lofty Group in having a siren sound for every job.
don't believe everything (or should that be 'anything') you read on here. Under what circumstances a siren sounds is decided between the brigade and their local community (as per the CFS siren policy), sirens are not sounded for every job at every brigade in Mt Lofty group. Those brigades that do trigger on CFSRES are on a day/night timer.
QuoteEasiest way to get something done is to complain, but don't complain to the comms guys, complain to region or CFS HQ and get them to chase it up via DO Moir, THEN something will get done.
Done mate, Mr Bau and Mr Scarce were notified once it was noticed, my issue is that it will cause TIM to read out the wrong words / names, not mention it is confusing for the guys trying to read a pager at 3am.
Matt,you just give the pager to the wife to read while you get dressed.....
Does that mean the wife is quicker at getting dressed, and is already to go, before the fellas are out of bed ? :evil: :-D
Pip
1908960 13:22:11 18-01-09 ALL MEMBERS ARE REMINDER THEY MUST RESPOND RHF STATION AND NOT TO THE SCENE OF AN INCIDENT THIS IS TO ENSURE A QUICK RESPONSE AND THE SAFETY OF ALL MEMBERS CFS Range/Hope Forest Info
:? :?
MFS: *CFSRES INC050 18/01/09 15:48,RESPOND Assist Police,53 BRAYST,PLYMPTON PARK MAP 141 C 4 TG182,RENDER CHEMICALS SAFE,POSSIBLECLANDESTINE LAB,ADL202 MFS Stn 20
Quote from: Firey9119 on January 18, 2009, 02:03:57 PM
1908960 13:22:11 18-01-09 ALL MEMBERS ARE REMINDER THEY MUST RESPOND RHF STATION AND NOT TO THE SCENE OF AN INCIDENT THIS IS TO ENSURE A QUICK RESPONSE AND THE SAFETY OF ALL MEMBERS CFS Range/Hope Forest Info
:? :?
Pretty much, the persons asking for no one to drive directly to the incident in private vehicles.... yep..once you reach the Sub-50 Calls a year brigades, weird things happen.
12:42:15 19-01-09 INFO: REQUIRE DRIVER TO TAKE MOORAK 34 TO ISUZU AND PICK UP BWD RESCUE TOMORROW AFTERNOON. BWD CPT 0418847624 CFS Blackwood Info
The Cow's are still out and about...woulda thought moo 34 woulda died by now...
Well we were told about six months ago that Moorak was off to be scrapped, since then it has been offered back to us as a spare but our group have refused to take it due to the rust in the cab.
For info Gumeracha 24 has returned to Morphett Vale for the moment, whilst our 24 has a pump issue fixed. Our guys ended up repairing the plumbing on the Gum truck ourselves to get it operational.
something that probably hasnt been thought of is the assigning of new appliances as Regional spares, located at busy stations like Morphett vale.
Morphett Vale could have Region 1 Alpha 34....and one day Meadows 24 breaks down, and bam...theyve got a 34 within 2 hours!
Not so sure about that one Zippy, many brigades do not shower love and affection on any 'spare' truck like they do on their own - eg damage, swapping things that are better then they already have over! (or just removing them...).
Would take a keen eye and an active brigade to be in charge of the spare to keep on top of that and pull up the offenders, especially if trucks are passed between brigades/groups without being returned to their 'home' station.
11:37:22 20-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 20/01/09 11:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BOUNDARY RD,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,CALLER FROM SANCTUARY DR REPORTS SMOKE I,N AREA OF BOUNDRY RD/ BOSTON HOUSE,SAIR55 PLI549 MFS Pt Lincoln Response
11:41:15 20-01-09 CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 563 & 564 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, PT LINCOLN, 200 DEGREES, 9 KMS FROM PTLINCAB. INC NO 847513. > 20/01/2009 11:41:03 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
11:44:28 20-01-09 CFS: AIR SUPPORT RESPONDING TO PT LINCOLN INCIDENT. INCIDENT CONTROLLER MONITOR TG 007. > 20/01/2009 11:44:15 AM CFS Lincoln Response
11:44:32 20-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 20/01/09 11:45,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BOUNDARY RD,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,ASSIST MFS AT REQUEST OF REGIONAL COMMAN,DER,,SAIR55 LINC00 CFS Lincoln Response
*READ PAGE TIMES*
you wuld think after last tuesday MFS and CFS would be responded at same time to any rural incident regardless if it in MFS or CFS area.
Was just about to copy and paste for you after removing it in the other thread.. hehe.. Nicely done..
ahh thanks R Hazmat...much appreciated :wink:
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 20/01/09 13:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,95 BELAIR RD,KINGSWOOD MAP 130 K 13 TG182,TORRENS ARMS HOTEL,ADL205 41 GLO441 BLP211 BURN19 GLY221
MFS GLY221
Burnside? Surely Belair CFS are a much much closer mutual aid brigade...
you might be surprised at how little time difference the response and arrival might be...
RE port lincoln.
BOMS automated Response data doesnt get updated over night unfortunately :(
expected it to be consistantly like that until the data gets updated or sacad comes out from hell.
ya i figured that zippy. Maybe Port Lincoln MFS need to Respond Lincoln CFS as soon as they are responded to a Gras fire incident..not wait for region 6 commander to get page for the bombers up and he gets them on the road..Like The mayor of lincoln said its a time bomb just waiting to go off...i know that can be said for numerous places around the state but in this example it hink its time to bite their lips n work 2 getha..luckily it didn eventuate :-)
The system needs fixing now...as NOW is when we are alive, right now. Who cares about 2010, 2011...we might be in nuclear war by then.
Quote from: Zippy on January 20, 2009, 12:57:37 PM
Responding Port Lincoln MFS by themselves is just utter filtered...we all know what its like trying to confront a going incident all by ourselves for the first 5-15mins...utter filtered.
Absolute Minimums until FIRST SITREP by Fire service.
2 Brigades > Out of full-time paid staff area...for any Priority 1 job.
1 Group (4 brigades) + Nearest surrounding brigade's > Total Fire ban rural incidents.
1 Brigade > assist other services, animal rescue and tree downs, etc you get the gist.
Not when SACAD comes out. Now.
coming from just another filtered firefighter, which isnt jaff ;)
There is nothing stopping the OIC of the appliances turning out to request more resources BEFORE they arrive. If you're that worried that SAMFS haven't turned out what you want ASK THEM.
Stop whining, start ASKING and taking some responsibility for the jobs YOU turn out to.
I'm getting sick of people like you sitting here bagging the comms guys and girls because of the system that they have to work with.
i wouldnt mind seeing us whinge about 97% less about responses too ;)
From Google maps
From Belair
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
4.0 km – about 8 mins
From Burnside
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
8.7 km – about 18 mins
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Quote from: tft on January 20, 2009, 01:20:55 PM
From Google maps
From Belair
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
4.0 km about 8 mins
From Burnside
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
8.7 km about 18 mins
Is that the same Google maps that tells me that to go from Mt Gambier to Renmark it is a 9 hour trip because I have to go via Adelaide??
Ah, Zippy, retracting that little spit about 1 in 6 Competent SAMFS Adelaide Fire Operators?
If you're going to whinge about people, atleast have the guts to stick to your guns.
Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 20/01/09 13:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,95 BELAIR RD,KINGSWOOD MAP 130 K 13 TG182,TORRENS ARMS HOTEL,ADL205 41 GLO441 BLP211 BURN19 GLY221
MFS GLY221
Burnside? Surely Belair CFS are a much much closer mutual aid brigade...
Pumper vs. 34P? Winding hilly descent vs. Straight flat run?
Quote from: 6739264 on January 20, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
Ah, Zippy, retracting that little spit about 1 in 6 Competent SAMFS Adelaide Fire Operators?
If you're going to whinge about people, atleast have the guts to stick to your guns.
Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 12:04:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 20/01/09 13:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,95 BELAIR RD,KINGSWOOD MAP 130 K 13 TG182,TORRENS ARMS HOTEL,ADL205 41 GLO441 BLP211 BURN19 GLY221
MFS GLY221
Burnside? Surely Belair CFS are a much much closer mutual aid brigade...
Pumper vs. 34P? Winding hilly descent vs. Straight flat run?
Mr numbers. If 1 person has a problem with my spit, i do stick to my guns. If 2 persons have a problem...those guns can go back in the holster. particularly when its someone your on good terms with.
Burnside Pumper HM400 PTO
Belair 34P HE500
Belair would have been at the station at time of call having just chased some dust between Belair and Eden Hills.
Eden Pumper would have probably been just as close as Burnside and Belair would head straight down Old Belair Road, onto Blythwood and then into Belair road with a run of about 3.5 kms. Would have probably beaten a red truck there...
Cheers
if only there was a system similar to MDT's to put your station up for "immediate" response duties...like a K5 and K8 or K9.
Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services! :-P
heheheheheh.
but SACAD has no brigade input...so how does SACAD know your in station with a crew ready to go like a Flyer!
Ah Zippy 'the big picture' will give everyone the right response!!
I think it is also the 'All seeing eye'
Someone always knows better apparently!
Quote from: JamesGar on January 20, 2009, 02:15:49 PM
Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services! :-P
From what i heard, SACAD will still have a very defined boundary between CFS & MFS anyway... We'll still be in 'square one', and besides... how can the system be the closest & fastest resource, when they put the maps out for groups to decide upon anyway?
Quote from: tft on January 20, 2009, 01:20:55 PM
From Google maps
From Belair
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
4.0 km – about 8 mins
From Burnside
Driving directions to 95 Belair Rd, Kingswood SA 5062
8.7 km – about 18 mins
Exactly, cheers mate.
6739264 - type of appliance doesnt come into it... just has to be a mutual aid brigade...
Quote from: Zippy on January 20, 2009, 02:14:21 PM
if only there was a system similar to MDT's to put your station up for "immediate" response duties...like a K5 and K8 or K9.
Quote from: JamesGar on January 20, 2009, 02:15:49 PM
Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services! :-P
Quote from: Zippy on January 20, 2009, 02:17:55 PM
heheheheheh.
but SACAD has no brigade input...so how does SACAD know your in station with a crew ready to go like a Flyer!
Being able to tag your truck as available for immediate response is useless unless the CAD system tracks individual resources. As you know now, you could have all of your Brigades trucks out, and you will still get paged for another job in your area. Then if it tracks individual resources, that makes the assumption that if there is a truck tagged as 'available' then the Brigade can crew it - something which is certainly not the case in some areas these days.
Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
Exactly, cheers mate.
6739264 - type of appliance doesnt come into it... just has to be a mutual aid brigade...
But, thinking about things for a minute, you would much rather have an Urban Pumper going to an urban fire rather than some slapped together hybrid rural/urban 34 "Pumper", wouldn't you?
Mmmm... shall i commence banging of head against wall? CFS do not build urban trucks, full stop.
Quote from: OMGWTF on January 20, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Mmmm... shall i commence banging of head against wall? CFS do not build urban trucks, full stop.
Come join me, I've been banging my head against a wall for some time now. Ofcourse the CFS don't build/order decent urban trucks, but they're better than the half arsed attempt, one size fits all, 34P. We'll get there eventually...maybe... when the kickbacks stop.
Now, enough of this, time to find some interesting paging:
1915793 14:12:30 20-01-09 Test message please ignore
Consider it ignored DEH ;)
I know we have said enough of this ;)
But considering MFS dont pay any attention to the fact that CFS area responding, notice the response for a B risk is still 3 MFS pumps an aerial and DO as well as CFS anyway... it might as well be the closest one or not at all. As that is supposedly the only reason they're going...
Quote from: 6739264 on January 20, 2009, 03:11:34 PM
Of course the CFS don't build/order decent urban trucks, but they're better than the half arsed attempt, one size fits all, 34P. We'll get there eventually...maybe... when the kickbacks stop.
Bit bit critically of the trucks that CFS build. I can't see a problem to the way that the trucks are built the problems lays in the way what brigades want to do with the truck once it is in their shed. Both the rurals and rural urbans have problems but the world not perfect. I would like to see some more flexibility in the what Brigades can do with the truck once they have received it i.e able to put an extra shelf in here or there or move a container bracket so that it is not a catching point.
Yes number you are right it is interesting pager message thread and here is my contribution
1930810 18:57:35 20-01-09 H51 ARE YOU OK? SITREP PLEASE, KX - SAAS Unit H51
I feeling fantastic :-D
S - At home and holidays
I - on my house renovations
T - use the internet
R - borrow from work
E - not involved
P - Going back to work this week :-(
I wonder if this is what they meant :roll:
Quote from: malleefire on January 20, 2009, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on January 20, 2009, 03:11:34 PM
Of course the CFS don't build/order decent urban trucks, but they're better than the half arsed attempt, one size fits all, 34P. We'll get there eventually...maybe... when the kickbacks stop.
Bit bit critically of the trucks that CFS build. I can't see a problem to the way that the trucks are built the problems lays in the way what brigades want to do with the truck once it is in their shed. Both the rurals and rural urbans have problems but the world not perfect. I would like to see some more flexibility in the what Brigades can do with the truck once they have received it i.e able to put an extra shelf in here or there or move a container bracket so that it is not a catching point.
Malleefire - your post implies you are obviously from a brigade where life is simple and most jobs are either rural or vehicle related. If you were in an urban brigade, you may understand how most CFS vehicles just dont cut the mustard.
Quote from: JamesGar on January 20, 2009, 02:15:49 PM
Surely SACAD is going to fix every response issue between all emergency services! :-P
"All hail SACAD" , "All hail the Skycrane" :-D
Well OMGWTF never assume anything as you know what the word is made up of (making an) donkey (of) u and me. I learnt that to change a truck design that it take time and that it can't be done quickly. Change can only occur when people are prepared to work together not fly off the handle at each other and through right forums. I like to work from the perspective that there are no problems only solutions.
By the way Brigade that I am with responds to vehicles and town jobs. We have to go away for rural jobs.
18:46:50 22-01-09 JERVOIS 34 AND SLUM PORT CAR 2 AT MUSHROOM FARM FOR HYDRANT TESTING CFS Jervois Info
In joke between Jervois and Swanport??
MFS: *CFSRES INC067 24/01/09 19:38,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ORMISTON CT,TAPEROO MAP 79 M 9 TG182,THE USUAL BLOCK OF UNITS,LG2814 LGS281 PAD251
Hurry up and catch this/these idiots, they're obviously the same one(s) from last week and haven't realised the damage they are causing, seriously get help you f'in idiot(s)
Hazmat 206, a person was arrested re the offences on that block of units from last week....50 year old male, from what I remember hearing on the news.....
Pip
I didn't know- just a bit odd it happening again in the same place if some one was arrested
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 24, 2009, 11:09:24 PM
I didn't know- just a bit odd it happening again in the same place if some one was arrested
If it's tagged as "the usual" block of units, it would suggest that more has happened there than just things last week. Goverment Housing perhaps?
1908994 10:40:52 25-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC023 25/01/09 10:41,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,JOHNS LANE,HAHNDORF MAP 159 G 7 TG128,FIRE IN THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT OF A,TOUR BUS.,HAHN00 BRDG00 CFS Bridgewater Response
Ok i'm confused, Barker 95% of the time respond into Handorf to back them up, why Bridgewater this time??
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 25, 2009, 09:39:59 AM
1908994 10:40:52 25-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC023 25/01/09 10:41,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,JOHNS LANE,HAHNDORF MAP 159 G 7 TG128,FIRE IN THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT OF A,TOUR BUS.,HAHN00 BRDG00 CFS Bridgewater Response
Ok i'm confused, Barker 95% of the time respond into Handorf to back them up, why Bridgewater this time??
Lucky dip in town? :lol:
hahndorf is the town of lucky dips...really lol...
Barker, Bridgewater, Balhannah and littlehampton roll up roll up, put ya bets in!
MFS: CFSRES INC030 25/01/09 14:04,RESPOND VEHICLE & GRASS FIRE,LOT 22 ATTRILL RD,MONTEITH MAP 0 0 0 TG206,DUNE BUGGY ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY,CALLER TO MEET YOU ON THE DIRT TRACK,TLEM19 MURR00 CFS Tailem Bend Response
looks like new incident types have been put into the system.
---- acutally...lol i think its a copy paste job into airsource..nice thinking
Quote from: Zippy on January 25, 2009, 12:26:19 PM
hahndorf is the town of lucky dips...really lol...
Barker, Bridgewater, Balhannah and littlehampton roll up roll up, put ya bets in!
There is an intersection ( on brigades/ group response boundaries) in Verdun near Hahndorf, known locally as the Bermuda triangle.
It was given this name for the ability to consume upto six brigade responses to a simply car accident and still have room for more.
Any brigade from a selection of Stirling, Aldgate, Bridgewater, Hahndorf, Balhannah or Barker could be sent, any the standard was usually 3.
Cheers
Quote from: 6739264 on January 25, 2009, 05:47:13 AM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 24, 2009, 11:09:24 PM
I didn't know- just a bit odd it happening again in the same place if some one was arrested
If it's tagged as "the usual" block of units, it would suggest that more has happened there than just things last week. Goverment Housing perhaps?
this block of units has been in the media several times in the last month with deliberate fires lit in empty units, stairwells etc. I'm guessing that Largs and the Port know the details well enough by now
QuoteFIRE crews are on red alert as a "large" fire burns in the Onkaparinga gorge south of Adelaide.
The fire started about 5pm and is heading towards Chapel Hill Rd.
Eight crews and three water bombers have been sent to tackle the fire and strike teams are being organised.
A message to a CFS crew at 5.17pm stated "all members be aware large fire at Gorge please be prepared".
The fire is burning up steep terrain and is "fairly inaccessible
Hah, and some people dont think the media are watching EVERYTHING...
MFS: 332 PRIORITY ONE CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 33 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1930430 00:25:03 27-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 27/01/09 00:26,RESPOND Tree Fire,74 PEACHEY RD,DAVOREN PARK MAP 51 N 5 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ331 Response
1926877 00:08:35 27-01-09 MFS: PRIORITY 1 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1926877 00:02:12 27-01-09 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
Making 332 priority 1 at one station, then re-directing them back to their station as a COQ's priority 1? A bit too reliant on 332 i think- more COQ's need to be made, especially priority 1's.
I think we might have a slight idea what we're doing... :wink:
Scanner jockeys can stand down.... Ta.
Edit; i might just add to this... since you cant see MDT messages, perhaps you have no idea what's going on in the big picture?
I'm reading between the lines :wink:
Might need to put your glasses on then...
I dont see how sending 332 back to there own station, once 32 had an appliance home is "too reliant on 332".
I may just be over-tired though.
Pretty quick for a truck to return to its station (32)for a 2nd alarm....
Not worth arguing mate...
As i said.. Scanner jockeys can stand down.
I'm not a scanner jockey if i like to keep up to date on what's going on, just cos i'm not at work, i can still take an interest in it.8-)
yeah reading between the lines isn;t a good thing.
I will ask is it acceptable to be sending appliances P1 for COQs as they are not actually responding?
VICTOR INFO: HEADS UP FOR OPS SUPPORT. IN THE EVENT OF CALLOUT FOR NEXT FEW DAYS, PRIORITY WILL BE TO DELIVER ICE AND DRINKING WATER TO FIREGROUND FOR CREWS AS A DEFAULT RESPONSE. FROM GO VH-SubBase 27/01/09 CFS Victor Group Info
Some Great Forward Planning 8-)
I thought I heard something about a couple of alarm concentrators being down at some of the northern stations, hence the need to keep someone there to monitor the local alarm interface and alert Comm's to any activations.
I believe normally in that case one firefighter is re-called to sit in the station and monitor, until then the truck either goes offline so that the crew can stay there or, as may have happened in this case another truck is responded to take over baby sitting duties.
The priority one run for 202 from the city to station 42 the other night for COQ was a different story, only truck south of the city was 439 sitting at Christies I think. Then 202 got responded to the job and Eden Hills were responded COQ to the Hill.
All good fun.
Quote from: Alex on January 26, 2009, 11:18:46 PM
I think we might have a slight idea what we're doing... :wink:
Scanner jockeys can stand down.... Ta.
Edit; i might just add to this... since you cant see MDT messages, perhaps you have no idea what's going on in the big picture?
Good work! Its about time the comms guys in Adelaide Fire tell all the scanner jockeys to shut the filtered up!!! I would think they would be quite sick of all of the second guessing of their (or people above them's) decisions.
CRD and Communications is their job, so let them do it, do you hear them bitching at you because you didn't use perfect search, or entry techniques, most probably not.
The only reason that 90% of the people on here can bitch about them is because half of the "story" is published on the internet. Remember, GRN paging is only a very small section of communications used.
MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/01/09 13:55,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,WISANGER CFS,WISANGER MAP 0 0 0 TG130,GRASSFIRE BURNING TO HOUSE ON DASHWOOD B,AY. CALL FROM,SAIR55 WISR00 KNGC00
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NON ON FILTERED FILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTERED *Zippy Grumbles on and on and on*
Quote from: Zippy on January 28, 2009, 12:31:32 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/01/09 13:55,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,WISANGER CFS,WISANGER MAP 0 0 0 TG130,GRASSFIRE BURNING TO HOUSE ON DASHWOOD B,AY. CALL FROM,SAIR55 WISR00 KNGC00
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NON ON FILTERED FILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTEREDFILTERED *Zippy Grumbles on and on and on*
Start packing job is showing up well according to KI Deputy 3 :-P
Haines MacGillivary
Kingscote 34
Parndana 34
Wisanger
Air Support being requested
was just about to post that....Make sure ya pack ya sunglasses guys n girls the water may be bit glary on the crossing 8-)
2 bombers being despatched 580 & 582 enroute.
Fire is burning in inaccessible gully
Quote from: SA Firey on January 28, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
2 bombers being despatched 580 & 582 enroute.
Fire is burning in inaccessible gully
any talk of more crews/strike teams??
Quote from: mac13 on January 28, 2009, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on January 28, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
2 bombers being despatched 580 & 582 enroute.
Fire is burning in inaccessible gully
any talk of more crews/strike teams??
Negative at this stage mac
BIM issued
MFS: *CFSRES INC088 28/01/09 14:54,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,10KM NORTH OF GLENDAMBO ON STUART HIGHWA,Y, VAN ROLLOVER, POSS 3 TRAPPED. GLENDAM,BO AWARE BUT MAY NOT ATTEND,WOOM19
aww wheres glendambo captain...
On the bog
Play nice as all Brigades can have crewing troubles
There maybe no BIM for the Gerald Community as that part of the state can have large fire like the bookmark fires a few years ago.
15:07:56 28-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC092 28/01/09 15:09,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,LYNDOCH CFS,LYNDOCH MAP 0 0 0 TG096,LYNDOCH CEMETRY,LYND00 WLLM19
Who lit the pyre?
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS RED - SCC CLOSING DOWN - DSC MILLER. > 28/01/2009 20:49:08 PM
CFS?
of course....thats right, preparedness is a daylight hours only concept isnt it?....State is Red, SCC is closed, puuuulease....amateur hour is fully locked and loaded
Quote from: misterteddy on January 28, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS RED - SCC CLOSING DOWN - DSC MILLER. > 28/01/2009 20:49:08 PM
CFS?
of course....thats right, preparedness is a daylight hours only concept isnt it?....State is Red, SCC is closed, puuuulease....amateur hour is fully locked and loaded
Mr TEDDY I think you have no idea of Ops control.... put some facts in the posting rather than bashing something without knowledge....yes I am from a different ESO so I can not explain the specifics, but I have volunteered at CFS SCC a few years ago...
Quote from: bajdas on January 28, 2009, 08:14:08 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on January 28, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS RED - SCC CLOSING DOWN - DSC MILLER. > 28/01/2009 20:49:08 PM
CFS?
of course....thats right, preparedness is a daylight hours only concept isnt it?....State is Red, SCC is closed, puuuulease....amateur hour is fully locked and loaded
Mr TEDDY I think you have no idea of Ops control.... put some facts in the posting rather than bashing something without knowledge....yes I am from a different ESO so I can not explain the specifics, but I have volunteered at CFS SCC a few years ago...
Bajdas, im also a bit mystified by this page, and NO I,ve never worked in CFS SCC but I am a vollie with CFS, best of all I can read OMG,s and if the page is correct it kinda goes against the OMG,s for SLOP RED, just so you know!
dont worry the SOSB is in charge ;) lol
Quote from: bajdas on January 28, 2009, 08:14:08 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on January 28, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS RED - SCC CLOSING DOWN - DSC MILLER. > 28/01/2009 20:49:08 PM
CFS?
of course....thats right, preparedness is a daylight hours only concept isnt it?....State is Red, SCC is closed, puuuulease....amateur hour is fully locked and loaded
Mr TEDDY I think you have no idea of Ops control.... put some facts in the posting rather than bashing something without knowledge....yes I am from a different ESO so I can not explain the specifics, but I have volunteered at CFS SCC a few years ago...
Baj, I have an excellent idea of Ops control,. Its a simple concept really, SCC is there to provide support, coordination, CONTROL of assets and decision making prowess when the scheiße hits the fan. If going to Red during the day is good enough for full or partial activation....why does that need cease when it gets dark - especially tonight if u see that u have lighning strikes everywhere north, you have one Group on active Standby, and fires on the East Coast.
All I am saying is.....if it's convenient to shut the door when the sun goes down rather than pay overtime, or recruit sufficient staff to run it 24/7 WHEN the parameters require it, then u have to question why u need it at anytime.
Interesting you admit to being from a different ESO, and u can't explain the specifics.....but u hammer me for having no idea or knowledge.
Zippy, interestingly, not long after the page I referenced, the SOSB closed down also, along with the Bushfire Hotline. Lets hope the recorded message has a list of things that might help overnight. Perhaps we could make that solar powered and save some more money.
nah...Bushfire hotline goes through to Adelaide fire...hence why its been shoved over to SOSB once again now.
1926877 17:52:00 29-01-09 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION KAPUNDA STN MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
Not something you see everyday
yeah especially since MFS Metro was extremely thin on Fire coverage anyhow! Angaston Group should have been able to provide COQ.
MFS: *CFSRES INC045 30/01/09 11:10,RESPOND Smoke in Area,GREENHILL RD,BURNSIDE MAP 132 C 2 TG182,1 KM UP GREENHILL RD FROM GLYNBURN,SAIR55 BLP211
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580/583 AND FIREBIRD 504 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA BURNSIDE, 274 DEGREES 20 KMS FROM WAB PIR 908912 > 30/01/2009 11:12:13 AM
This is a time when i can safely ask "WHERES BURN19". Only to find them added a few minutes later.
DEH Mobile.
Stop call. whew..thats a filtered spot for any fire.
Quote from: Zippy on January 30, 2009, 09:48:41 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC045 30/01/09 11:10,RESPOND Smoke in Area,GREENHILL RD,BURNSIDE MAP 132 C 2 TG182,1 KM UP GREENHILL RD FROM GLYNBURN,SAIR55 BLP211
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580/583 AND FIREBIRD 504 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA BURNSIDE, 274 DEGREES 20 KMS FROM WAB PIR 908912 > 30/01/2009 11:12:13 AM
This is a time when i can safely ask "WHERES BURN19". Only to find them added a few minutes later.
DEH Mobile.
Stop call. whew..thats a filtered spot for any fire.
WOW another lot of Av Gas burnt for a false alarm...
Could say the same for the deisel in the trucks :-P :-D
Hers an icky one:
1908073 11:11:09 30-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 30/01/09 11:11,RESPOND RCR,SWAIN RD,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 309 M 13 TG195,P2 DECEASED BODY IN CAR AND ENTRAPPED,VHB719 STH029 SES South Coast Response
Beleive a car in the inman river, thats almost a Hazmat job touching that water.
Hey Big Al,
Saw that earlier.
Looked like it was an hour and a half after V81 was sent to Oval Rd for a Cat 1 job (Swain Rd and Oval Rd intersect)..???
1924962 09:40:14 30-01-09 V81 Cat1 Oval Rd, Victor Harbor 309 N14
1905665 11:11:06 30-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 30/01/09 11:11,RESPOND RCR,SWAIN RD,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 309 M 13 TG195,P2 DECEASED BODY IN CAR AND ENTRAPPED,VHB719 STH029
Maybe same job, maybe not..???
av gas cost a weeeee bit more than diesel..just was thinkin for "smoke in area" maybe the bombers could be held bak until confirmed fire..but im sure its all be argued about b4 so well leave it at that stay cool :-)
Quote from: Zippy on January 29, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
yeah especially since MFS Metro was extremely thin on Fire coverage anyhow! Angaston Group should have been able to provide COQ.
i was wating for it to come out on the pager's could have done with a road trip :-P .but it dose seem silly that no COQ happen tho in cfs aspect :|
Quote from: straps on January 30, 2009, 10:14:21 AM
Hey Big Al,
Saw that earlier.
Looked like it was an hour and a half after V81 was sent to Oval Rd for a Cat 1 job (Swain Rd and Oval Rd intersect)..???
1924962 09:40:14 30-01-09 V81 Cat1 Oval Rd, Victor Harbor 309 N14
1905665 11:11:06 30-01-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 30/01/09 11:11,RESPOND RCR,SWAIN RD,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 309 M 13 TG195,P2 DECEASED BODY IN CAR AND ENTRAPPED,VHB719 STH029
Maybe same job, maybe not..???
Yeah would be same job, as the road where that one intersects is oval rd
MFS: *CFSRES INC145 30/01/09 21:49,RESPOND ALARM 14/189,CARCLEW YOUTH PERFORMING ARTS,11 JEFFCOTT ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 K 11 TG182,FIP INSIDE REAR NORTH ENTRY,,ADL203 AD2011 ADL202 MFS Stn 20
Interesting to see a 203 & a 2011 on the run at the same time. Considering 2011 only normally shows up when the jet is offline.
2011 is always online, but mainly gets called upon for specific reasons such as high number of calls or to relieve a truck that is coq's for an extended period of time or training. :wink:
Errrm, 2011 is rarley online, we put it on the run due to having no one on leave so there was crew for it, its certainly a case of putting the tape in the tape deck and putting on the aviators, you ain't goin anywhere quickly.
BUT, it is still on line regardless of personnel, just like 2092,2014 and 2023.
Well anything in the SAMFS fleet is online if thats the case. I only consider online to be the normally manned trucks in the SAMFS fleet. 2011 is just an old Volvo that was in the yard that we had crew for.
2011 is a scania 93M.
Erm, if you don't have the crew on station to man an appliance how can it be 'online' ?
Like i said, if required, it can be used- ready to run- Istill class that as online.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 30, 2009, 09:45:22 PM
2011 is a scania 93M.
Not all the time, tonight it happens to be a Volvo F7 - Fleet 144 to be precise :-D
Quote from: Zippy on January 30, 2009, 09:48:41 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC045 30/01/09 11:10,RESPOND Smoke in Area,GREENHILL RD,BURNSIDE MAP 132 C 2 TG182,1 KM UP GREENHILL RD FROM GLYNBURN,SAIR55 BLP211
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580/583 AND FIREBIRD 504 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA BURNSIDE, 274 DEGREES 20 KMS FROM WAB PIR 908912 > 30/01/2009 11:12:13 AM
This is a time when i can safely ask "WHERES BURN19". Only to find them added a few minutes later.
lolol...i dare not :evil:
and yes....yes it is
CFS: CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580/582 & FIREBIRD 504 RESPOND TREE FIRE, BROWN HILL CREEK, 263 DEGREES, 22 MS FROM WAB PIR 848806 > 31/01/2009 9:36:45 AM > 31/01/2009 9:38:10 AM CFS Sturt Mitcham Hills Sirens
Is this a first for the Mitcham Hills Sirens??
CFS: BOMBER STATUS: BOMBERS 580/583 RETURNED WAB - NIL DROPS. FIREBIRD 504 AND HELITAK 733 TRAINING AT WARREN RESERVOIR > 31/01/2009 10:06:20 AM CFS STC Info
Flyyn Is Gettin Restless....... 8-)
ANYONE ABLE TO HELP FILL 30 SANDBAGS ON SUNDAY OR MONDAY MORNING PLEASE CONTACT LITTLE BOB ON DUTY PHONE SES Edinburgh Info
Can Lil Bob See An end to the heatwave????? :-)
After watching flynn do half a dozen drops at Clayton i'm not surpised they need practice, half the drops missed their targets :-P
1909097 14:57:24 31-01-09 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SES ARE ISSUING A HEAT HEALTH WARNING VIA MEDIA. MESSAGE WILL BE PRECEDED BY STANDARD EMERGENCY WARNING SIGNAL. - DSC EDEN > 31/01/2009 2:57:07 PM CFS R2 HQ Info
don't see that everyday...
and why are SES issuing it, thought it would be SAAS
Heatwave = extream weather SES are the lead agency to severe weather storm and flood events.
1908978 16:32:55 31-01-09 warning with k34 when driving accross the fire groung the truck fan will pull in a lot of rubbish and block the condenser, main radiator flush out this with a side line full fog but at low pressure - KANGARILLA CAPTAIN 31/01/2009 4:32:19
Looks like like one Brigade is having a run of bad luck with an appliance. I would of thought they would have had a functional appliance by now not a bad aid together cheep as chips mechanical job done but fixed once and for all.
Quite right PJ only ones with the legislative authority :wink:
If the scientist & Penny Wong are right better start getting used to it :-(
Keep cool!
Quote from: piriejono on January 31, 2009, 03:20:14 PM
Heatwave = extream weather SES are the lead agency to severe weather storm and flood events.
that is such b/s......
the Government Medical Officer is the Chief Medical Authority for Public Health Warnings.....via SA Health ....what a pathetic plan, no-one will take that seriously...lol....
Public Health is the domain of the Health Dept.....not the Emergency Services
its issued by both SES and SA Health..
wow....wonder how often the heat messages go out over Roxby radio?....i guess the Roxby SES are fully employed applying water misting to all who are working, maybe a little fanning....or a offering a nice chilled ice tea
Seriously, its a bit hotter than usual....but half the state works in these temperatures for 6 months a year....
Interesting that SES were consistently paged out to Task xx and not Inc xx during the early hours of this morning, was this just an individual operator thing?
How many jobs do SES let stack before they default to another agency and will the new agreement "closest most appropriate" allow this to continue?
I had started to notice last night that there were a huge number of dual responses to typical "SES only" incidents, and even fire service only turnouts to tree downs and the like.
As you asked Jaff, at what point do the SES throw their hands in the air and request things go back to the old nearest/most appropriate?
12:10:13 01-02-09 ALL MANAGERS & TEAM LEADERS ARE TO ENSURE THAT ALL MEMBERS WORK SAFELY IN HOT CONDITIONS AND CONTINUE TO HYDRATE BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER ANY JOBS. WATCH YOU MATES AND IF YOU ARE FEELING UNWELL TELL SOMEONE. PIETER SCOTT SDO SES State Duty Officer
Ok this is getting annoying to read..
should just send out Scheduled pages every 2 hours saying "keep using common sense, thanks".
Hydration isn't necessarily common sense. You as a firefighter are taught the value of hydration, pre hydration, etc, yet many other people still just drink when they are thirsty.
Common sense is different to different people if it was that simple I would be unemployed. Also its a part of an employers duty of care.
Knowing Pieter personally - he's only doing his job as the senior on duty manager.
You guys use alerts to highlight stuff you already know?
Industry (mining for example) use "Red Alerts" to remind workers even though it's already covered in induction.
Since its not your pager going off, whats the prob?
Quote from: chook on February 01, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Since its not your pager going off, whats the prob?
It's apparently interrupting his pager feed of extremely useful information :roll:
Ok now I understand - sorry! :wink:
;)
im just pissed that SES/Health/Government/telstra woke me and a LOT of people at 10-11pm last night!
Not wanting to make this personal, but I can think of quite a few times you've sent me messages much later than that Zippy :P
Didn't realise you had one of those 1900 numbers CFS Firey :-P
Quote from: Zippy on February 01, 2009, 11:41:08 AM
12:10:13 01-02-09 ALL MANAGERS & TEAM LEADERS ARE TO ENSURE THAT ALL MEMBERS WORK SAFELY IN HOT CONDITIONS AND CONTINUE TO HYDRATE BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER ANY JOBS. WATCH YOU MATES AND IF YOU ARE FEELING UNWELL TELL SOMEONE. PIETER SCOTT SDO SES State Duty Officer
Ok this is getting annoying to read..
should just send out Scheduled pages every 2 hours saying "keep using common sense, thanks".
yep....bit like Red Flag Warnings for falling trees....yep no scheiße, there's been a fire, trees fall down, it's hot outside and your wearing overalls that have no cooling features at all.....so drink heaps......not commmon sense, but should indicate suitable training and management by team leaders
Quote from: CFS_Firey on February 01, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Not wanting to make this personal, but I can think of quite a few times you've sent me messages much later than that Zippy :P
pfft ;)
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on February 01, 2009, 12:44:53 PM
Didn't realise you had one of those 1900 numbers CFS Firey :-P
It all looks the same when you're drunk... :P
Quote from: jaff on February 01, 2009, 07:58:45 AM
Interesting that SES were consistently paged out to Task xx and not Inc xx during the early hours of this morning, was this just an individual operator thing?
How many jobs do SES let stack before they default to another agency and will the new agreement "closest most appropriate" allow this to continue?
Not sure if many of you guys remember February 1983 - I do (first time I faced death - caused by a backburn your CFA friends started without checking we were all clear).
This is all starting to look very familiar! (filtered I hope I'm wrong!!!).
As the current situation represents an extreme fire risk, as an emergency manager wouldn't you want to try & rest your primary wildfire strike force? I would. Considering that most of the jobs are not P1 or really life threatening.
I know that it feels really good to be the centre of attention all of the time, but sometimes you just have to take a back seat for the greater good! :evil:
I have a horrible feeling thst your turns coming in a big way - just hope you are ready!
Stay cool, be cool & have a quiet day! :-D
cheers
could be this afternoon with lightning strikes starting to build dover LEP and EEP
I have a uneasy feeling that we'll be seeing another super nova heatwave very shortly most likely in the 2nd or 4th week of this month :|
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on February 01, 2009, 02:49:38 PM
I have a uneasy feeling that we'll be seeing another super nova heatwave very shortly most likely in the 2nd or 4th week of this month :|
Another Kevin Irvine? :-D
Very funny jaff maybe we just need to listen to the mighty all seeing/knowing chook :lol:
1909100 18:08:31 01-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC124 01/02/09 18:09,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,DUTTON RD,ST KITTS MAP MR2 E 2 TG100,NEAR NOACK RD,SAIR55 TRUR00 NTPA19 TAND00 ANGN00 CFS Angaston Group Officers Response
Didn't realise they could refer to the main road maps out of the UBD?
Jeez, don't put that label on me Robert! :-D
I'm just a simple ses worker :wink:
looks like it is starting
KP81 WHO EVER HAS THE AMBULANCE COULD YOU PLEASE RETURN IT TO THE STATION AS ITS WHEREABOUTS ARE NOT KNOWN
SAAS Unit Kapunda
Um that is serious stuff :-o
Quote from: chook on February 01, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
Jeez, don't put that label on me Robert! :-D
I'm just a simple ses worker :wink:
looks like it is starting
Its all quiet down here in the South East which is good but its best not to be placed into a flase sense of security as such yet :-)
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on February 01, 2009, 05:12:18 PM
Quote from: chook on February 01, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
Jeez, don't put that label on me Robert! :-D
I'm just a simple ses worker :wink:
looks like it is starting
Its all quiet down here in the South East which is good but its best not to be placed into a flase sense of security as such yet :-)
More rain than fire in the mid north atm.... :wink:
lightning - nil rain :-( good news it has dropped the temp to a cool 38!
nil lightning and rain down here :roll:
i see the CFA pager site is goin nuts with fires from lightning
I remember a few year back that the lightening kept us busy in the parks I hope that it does not happen again. Mind you with the page from R4HQ today about a thunderstorm bring it on as I like some natural air con for change. As yet no rain or cloud cover to be seen here or in the region
na malleefire its alll gone for today...only a couple down around marrabel and angaston...more forecast 4 2mora arvo
TEAM 3 CLEANING DUTIES NEXT TO WEEKS. STATION OPEN 1900 HOURS TONIGHT SENIOR THREE CFS Salisbury Info
ive seen this a few times and found interesting that it states a time that the station is open...does not every salisbury memebr have access to station??
Quite a few of the bigger stations/brigades do not give keys/codes to all members.
hmmmm fair enough............. :?
Quote from: mac13 on February 03, 2009, 02:35:51 PM
TEAM 3 CLEANING DUTIES NEXT TO WEEKS. STATION OPEN 1900 HOURS TONIGHT SENIOR THREE CFS Salisbury Info
ive seen this a few times and found interesting that it states a time that the station is open...does not every salisbury memebr have access to station??
NOPE not every one has/need access to the station.
so at what point does someone decide when someone can have the door code???
Quote from: jaff on February 01, 2009, 07:58:45 AM
Interesting that SES were consistently paged out to Task xx and not Inc xx during the early hours of this morning, was this just an individual operator thing?
How many jobs do SES let stack before they default to another agency and will the new agreement "closest most appropriate" allow this to continue?
The database used at SES SCC is setup based on taskings. That is the terminology used for many years.
It is a seperate system from BOMS or CFS databases while we await the integrated SACAD system. Thus it is not being upgraded.
The tasking load is handled by the OIC within the Unit & Region. Extra SES resources (this includes some CFS brigades) were deployed during the weekend to specific areas & SES recce's were done.
What we has call takers, and the priority automatically allocated, is sometimes not the actual priority given by the OIC after recce. Dont believe everything you see on pager messages.
Not every tree down job needs a resource within 10 minutes. In quite a few taskings the crews were awaiting electrical line clearance anyway.
Sometimes the station open note on the pager refers to the group store being open for getting "stuff" from whoever is in charge of handing it out. Not so much a case of actually getting into the station (I have not idea if that is the case with Salisbury but I know that is how it is with some of the other groups)
i think firey9119 indicated that NO not everyone has access to station. personally i think thats lame as lame
Quote from: uniden on February 03, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Quite a few of the bigger stations/brigades do not give keys/codes to all members.
care to name them?
Quote from: mac13 on February 03, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
i think firey9119 indicated that NO not everyone has access to station. personally i think thats lame as lame
No, what is lame is that when there is free access to all, things get stolen, damage gets done and people abuse privileges.
Quote1930456 09:17:49 04-02-09 F67 HELLO CAN U CALL ON AIR PLSE FOR CAT 2 1ST RESPONSE TO OSBORNE, EMERG CLOSEST IS WCH TO CLEAR, CALL ON T.G. 2
Yet to clear WCH for a case at Osborne.... Obviously light on for emerg resources in the west...
ATS+, emerg jobs get them out of the elderly transfer cycle ;)
Quote from: The Stig on February 04, 2009, 02:59:40 AM
Quote from: mac13 on February 03, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
i think firey9119 indicated that NO not everyone has access to station. personally i think thats lame as lame
No, what is lame is that when there is free access to all, things get stolen, damage gets done and people abuse privileges.
well Mr Stig if this is the case and u identify them tot he point u don give them the code for this reason...GIVE THEM THE FLICK!
Quote from: mac13 on February 04, 2009, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: The Stig on February 04, 2009, 02:59:40 AM
Quote from: mac13 on February 03, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
i think firey9119 indicated that NO not everyone has access to station. personally i think thats lame as lame
No, what is lame is that when there is free access to all, things get stolen, damage gets done and people abuse privileges.
well Mr Stig if this is the case and u identify them tot he point u don give them the code for this reason...GIVE THEM THE FLICK!
That is the problem, most people who steal stuff don't often
own up to it when asked. Apart from installing expensive cameras etc. It is easier to regulate who comes and goes.
It's how it works in most business prems now days, why should CFS be any different?
Yes it sucks and the bad ones spoil it for everyone but that's life.
hmmm yea it sure does suck...our door code is printed in big letters on a pole near our station so we don forget the code :-D
One of my old units had that problem - open access, stuff going "missing".
Some managers were bought in from other units to run things for awhile, one of the first things they did was photograph everything & told everyone that the first time something disappears they would call the police in as a first step.
Funny the stealing stopped! And gear suddenly re-appeared. Then when I took over, got rid of the people who weren't quite up to speed/ or unsuitable for our type of work - never had a problem since! Not sure if the the two are connected, or just an amazing coincidence :wink:
Swipe cards are a good idea - but very expensive to set up initially.
Anyway good luck with it, it's a pity that some low lifes stuff everything up for the decent silent majority.
cheers
Quote from: misterteddy on February 03, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: uniden on February 03, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Quite a few of the bigger stations/brigades do not give keys/codes to all members.
care to name them?
Incorrectly written posting now deleted...sorry
Quote from: bajdas on February 04, 2009, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on February 03, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: uniden on February 03, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Quite a few of the bigger stations/brigades do not give keys/codes to all members.
care to name them?
NOPE, dont have the database & I would not be allowed to share the specifics. I know some CFS Brigades were paged to taskings because I processed the request to MFS ComCen for the CFS Pagers to be activated when I was in the dispatch area. I was not in the SES SCC the whole weekend so could not/would not provide any statistics.
WTF :?
Quote from: bajdas on February 04, 2009, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on February 03, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: uniden on February 03, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Quite a few of the bigger stations/brigades do not give keys/codes to all members.
care to name them?
NOPE, dont have the database & I would not be allowed to share the specifics. I know some CFS Brigades were paged to taskings because I processed the request to MFS ComCen for the CFS Pagers to be activated when I was in the dispatch area. I was not in the SES SCC the whole weekend so could not/would not provide any statistics.
not sure how your posting relates to the comment about knowing which Brigades don't give door keys or door codes to their members
Quote from: mac13 on February 04, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: bajdas on February 04, 2009, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on February 03, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Quote from: uniden on February 03, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Quite a few of the bigger stations/brigades do not give keys/codes to all members.
care to name them?
NOPE, dont have the database & I would not be allowed to share the specifics. I know some CFS Brigades were paged to taskings because I processed the request to MFS ComCen for the CFS Pagers to be activated when I was in the dispatch area. I was not in the SES SCC the whole weekend so could not/would not provide any statistics.
filtered :?
Why do you want to know which stations don't issue keys / codes to everyone ?
Some do, some don't. What works for someone might not for someone else...
Back to the topic of Interesting paging please........
SORRY, I misread the question.....my mistake
4/02/2009 5:14:14 PM EE.Group for members who attended Proper Bay fire. message from Crown Solicitor, If you are contacted by any one for any details about the fire, do not talk to them, refer them to me. EE GO CFS Eastern Eyre Group Info
WOOO WEEEE :-o
Not sure if that should have gone over the pager system.
Anyway sounds bad
Quote from: mac13 on February 04, 2009, 03:47:43 PM
4/02/2009 5:14:14 PM EE.Group for members who attended Proper Bay fire. message from Crown Solicitor, If you are contacted by any one for any details about the fire, do not talk to them, refer them to me. EE GO CFS Eastern Eyre Group Info
WOOO WEEEE :-o
is that not the norm?? not to give out details??
1930428 17:32:15 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:32,RESPOND Bomb Threat,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP B B 16 TG182,1LT ICE CREAM CONTAINER WRAPPED IN,PLASTIC AND BROWN PAPER .. ADDRESSED,TO A POLICE OFFICER - SAPOL HQ,ADL201 MFS Stn 20
1930656 17:49:41 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:50,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,SAPOL HQ - STAGE NORTH SIDE OF,WAKEFIELD ST,BURN19 41 ADL206 STM409 BLP211 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
1930429 17:49:39 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:50,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,SAPOL HQ - STAGE NORTH SIDE OF,WAKEFIELD ST,BURN19 41 ADL206 STM409 BLP211 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
1919074 17:49:13 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:50,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,SAPOL HQ - STAGE NORTH SIDE OF,WAKEFIELD ST,BURN19 41 ADL206 STM409 BLP211 MFS Car 41
1930428 17:49:11 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:50,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,SAPOL HQ - STAGE NORTH SIDE OF,WAKEFIELD ST,BURN19 41 ADL206 STM409 BLP211 MFS Stn 20
1908991 17:49:09 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:50,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,SAPOL HQ - STAGE NORTH SIDE OF,WAKEFIELD ST,BURN19 41 ADL206 STM409 BLP211 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
1908995 17:49:07 04-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 04/02/09 17:50,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,SAPOL HQ - STAGE NORTH SIDE OF,WAKEFIELD ST,BURN19 41 ADL206 STM409 BLP211 CFS Burnside Response
interesting, anyone know anymore?
I think it was one of their birthday's! Happy Birthday :-P
how does a bomb in an icecream container get as far as it's intended target before being detected??? did they not learn from the nca incident in the 90's?? :?
H'm be alert :?
bomb in a ice cream tub that got past the Aust Post x-ray monitoring and then the police mail scanning process.....be very alarmed!!
Quote from: misterteddy on February 04, 2009, 11:02:05 PM
bomb in a ice cream tub that got past the Aust Post x-ray monitoring and then the police mail scanning process.....be very alarmed!!
Assuming it was posted...
Quote from: 6739264 on February 04, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on February 04, 2009, 11:02:05 PM
bomb in a ice cream tub that got past the Aust Post x-ray monitoring and then the police mail scanning process.....be very alarmed!!
Assuming it was posted...
quite correct...good point....
Quote from: misterteddy on February 04, 2009, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on February 04, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on February 04, 2009, 11:02:05 PM
bomb in a ice cream tub that got past the Aust Post x-ray monitoring and then the police mail scanning process.....be very alarmed!!
Assuming it was posted...
quite correct...good point....
It was a water meter in an icecream container. Some water had got onto the wrapping and the recipient was concerned.
No big deal really...
S...
FIRE BAN IN MOUNT LOFTY RANGES TOMORROW NO STAND BY REQUIRED FROM CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
is salisbury in MLR or AM ???
Quote from: mac13 on February 05, 2009, 02:49:42 PM
FIRE BAN IN MOUNT LOFTY RANGES TOMORROW NO STAND BY REQUIRED FROM CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
is salisbury in MLR or AM ???
They would respond into both.
yea thats what i was thinkin
if they mobilise...
LINC: MESSAGE TO ALL CREW WHO ATTENDED THE PROPER BAY FIRE IF YOU ARE CONTACTED BY ANYONE RE THE FIRE NO COMMENT PLEASE REFER ALL ENQUIRIES TO ME FROM GO HETHRINGTON 0427011907 05/02/09 18:23:20 CFS Lower Eyre Peninsula Group Info
hhmmmm ??
it's a directive that's come out from the crown solicitor, nothing to get too excited over I would've thought
i was at proper bay fire..i haven been told anything
DUE TO HIGH FIRE DANGER FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO ASSIST WE WILL BE SHIFTING GEAR FROM STN TO SHOW GROUNDS THIS MORNING AT 9:30AM AND STARTING TO SET UP, PETER CFS Summertown Info
any ideas?
Quote from: mac13 on February 07, 2009, 07:30:11 AM
DUE TO HIGH FIRE DANGER FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO ASSIST WE WILL BE SHIFTING GEAR FROM STN TO SHOW GROUNDS THIS MORNING AT 9:30AM AND STARTING TO SET UP, PETER CFS Summertown Info
any ideas?
Uraidla Show :wink:
GRP WX: MLR 7/2 T38 DP2 RH11 W55 ***FFDI EXT111 GFDI EXT166***. FO Much cooler; partly cloudy. Moderate southerly winds, freshening later.
NPWSA MLR
yea our local FDI is forecast 182...just been outside and it is shithouse!!!
Not looking forward to the forecast dry lightning :-(
yea exact same conditions/forecast as december 6th 2007...and we all know how tha ended
Quote from: SA Firey on February 07, 2009, 08:23:47 AM
Not looking forward to the forecast dry lightning :-(
We had some dry lightning early this morning but it still looks pretty stormy outside so i am not looking forward to this arvo once the change comes in :| :-(
Quote from: mac13 on February 07, 2009, 07:30:11 AM
DUE TO HIGH FIRE DANGER FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO ASSIST WE WILL BE SHIFTING GEAR FROM STN TO SHOW GROUNDS THIS MORNING AT 9:30AM AND STARTING TO SET UP, PETER CFS Summertown Info
any ideas?
Not Uraidla Show.....set up for All British Day.
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on February 07, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: mac13 on February 07, 2009, 07:30:11 AM
DUE TO HIGH FIRE DANGER FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO ASSIST WE WILL BE SHIFTING GEAR FROM STN TO SHOW GROUNDS THIS MORNING AT 9:30AM AND STARTING TO SET UP, PETER CFS Summertown Info
any ideas?
Not Uraidla Show.....set up for All British Day.
Pip
Be getting close or is it bi-annually
MFS: *CFSRES INC043 08/02/09 09:30,RESPOND SHED FIRE,38 SECOND ST,GAWLER SOUTH MAP 23 L 15 TG182,REKINDLE,GAW359
We were there to the wee hours of the morning, give us a break! :lol:
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 08, 2009, 11:44:21 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC043 08/02/09 09:30,RESPOND SHED FIRE,38 SECOND ST,GAWLER SOUTH MAP 23 L 15 TG182,REKINDLE,GAW359
We were there to the wee hours of the morning, give us a break! :lol:
well....if u did it right the first time.....lmao [/tic]
1919126 17:23:18 10-02-09 CAN ALL MEMBERS MAKE A SPECIAL EFFORT TO ATTEND COMMUNITY BUSH FIRE MEETING ON THURSDAY 12TH AT 7PM AT THE INSTITUTE. PLEASE WEAR YOUR CFS T-SHIRT AND CAP SCOTT CFS Stansbury Info
Would this be as a result of the Victorian fires :?
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/02/09 14:49,RESPOND SHED FIRE,10 MALUKA DR,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 F 2 TG134,LAWNMOWER AND FUEL ALIGHT IN SHED.,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
CLDN: *CFSRES: RESPOND KANGARILLA STATION 10-02-09 14:54 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
CLDN: *CFSRES: EXTRA CREW REQUIRED RESPOND CLARENDON STATION 10-02-09 14:5 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
Yikes... default to the next closest??? I think not... Time to break some old habits boys.
I wondered about that too Alex, although there is not a lot in it.
Cherry Gardens are 13 minutes away
Kangarilla 15 mins
Coromandel Valley 18 mins
Morphett Vale 24 mins
Realistically it's probably quicker to get an MFS pump from St Marys, they would probably already be COQ to O'Halloran Hill anyway.
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on February 10, 2009, 04:09:53 PM
1919126 17:23:18 10-02-09 CAN ALL MEMBERS MAKE A SPECIAL EFFORT TO ATTEND COMMUNITY BUSH FIRE MEETING ON THURSDAY 12TH AT 7PM AT THE INSTITUTE. PLEASE WEAR YOUR CFS T-SHIRT AND CAP SCOTT CFS Stansbury Info
Would this be as a result of the Victorian fires :?
No Robert, it isn't a result of the Victorian fires. Our council Fire Prevention Officer has organised with the CFS Community Education team to run these Bushfire Information Meetings in larger towns, as well as the bushfire prone seaside towns. Just to educate the citizens more about bushfires and how to use a Bushfire Action Plan.
They are a good idea I think and a lot can be learnt from them. :wink:
MFS: *CFSRES INC006 12/02/09 06:15,RESPOND RCR,O/S 745 LOWER NORTH EAST RD,PARADISE MAP 108 A 3 TG182,,AD2047 MFS Stn 20
heavy rescue pod
Yeh, i know, just pointing out a rare feat! :wink:
Quote from: Alex on February 10, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/02/09 14:49,RESPOND SHED FIRE,10 MALUKA DR,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 F 2 TG134,LAWNMOWER AND FUEL ALIGHT IN SHED.,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
CLDN: *CFSRES: RESPOND KANGARILLA STATION 10-02-09 14:54 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
CLDN: *CFSRES: EXTRA CREW REQUIRED RESPOND CLARENDON STATION 10-02-09 14:5 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
Yikes... default to the next closest??? I think not... Time to break some old habits boys.
Reminds me of a big fire I heard of in Blackwood once, in the last year or two..
Old habits do indeed need to be broken.. ;)
Quote from: RescueHazmat on February 12, 2009, 03:38:03 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 10, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/02/09 14:49,RESPOND SHED FIRE,10 MALUKA DR,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 F 2 TG134,LAWNMOWER AND FUEL ALIGHT IN SHED.,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
CLDN: *CFSRES: RESPOND KANGARILLA STATION 10-02-09 14:54 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
CLDN: *CFSRES: EXTRA CREW REQUIRED RESPOND CLARENDON STATION 10-02-09 14:5 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
Yikes... default to the next closest??? I think not... Time to break some old habits boys.
Reminds me of a big fire I heard of in Blackwood once, in the last year or two..
Old habits do indeed need to be broken.. ;)
Hah, the day you guys get a jet, then you can probably complain about that one, but until then, the closest aerial was responded... also, try 6 years.
Matty - thats exactly what i was pointing out. The COQ to the hill would have been much closer.
Quote from: mattb on February 11, 2009, 02:20:32 PM
I wondered about that too Alex, although there is not a lot in it.
Cherry Gardens are 13 minutes away
Kangarilla 15 mins
Coromandel Valley 18 mins
Morphett Vale 24 mins
Realistically it's probably quicker to get an MFS pump from St Marys, they would probably already be COQ to O'Halloran Hill anyway.
Or we could have sent our 34....but I put a stop on arrival.
Hah, the day you guys get a jet, then you can probably complain about that one, but until then, the closest aerial was responded... also, try 6 years.
The closest aerial would of been adelaide who have more than one aerial appliance.
CFSR5: R5 Info: Currently the entire state is experincing smoke haze from the Victorian Fires. Please only report smoke plumes or actual fire. Please reassure the committee there are no going fires in SA. RO MURRAY
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 13, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
Hah, the day you guys get a jet, then you can probably complain about that one, but until then, the closest aerial was responded... also, try 6 years.
The closest aerial would of been adelaide who have more than one aerial appliance.
Indeed.... siuce there are only three stations in the state with aerials.
1929855 15:06:01 13-02-09 LOFT MGT: Reynella grass fire now escalated to 4th alarm, houses under threat, Cherry airstrip now opening. GCO Dave 13/2/2009 CFS Lofty Group Management
:-o :-o :-o a 4th alarm grassie now that cant be any good :|
Happens every few years in that area.. Definately a threat to a number of properties on the hillsides and at the top of Woodend and other side of Young Street. I'll have a look on monday when I get down.. :)
Indeed.... siuce there are only three stations in the state with aerials.
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As far as metropolitan goes, there is 3, but regional stations such as Port lincoln and port pirie also have aerials
Port Pirie haven't had a jet for yeeeeeears.
Hazmat,there was a second page to that message a few mins later that had the correct message on it, We woke up Friday morning to think smoke and a blue haze from the Victorian fire's I was stopped a number of time in penola and Naracoorte asking where was the fire in SA when I said it was coming from Victoria some people where shocked.....
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 13, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
Indeed.... siuce there are only three stations in the state with aerials.
As far as metropolitan goes, there is 3, but regional stations such as Port lincoln and port pirie also have aerials
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I forgot Mount Gambier
Mmmm fair drive from the Mount or Lincoln...
But anyway, were all carrying on now.
MFS: *CFSRES INC066 14/02/09 17:17,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,30 GURRS RD,KENSINGTON PARK MAP 119 J 6 TG182,POSS BACKYARD BURN.,SAIR55 BPK211 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
Isn't Brooklyn Park BPK451 & Beulah Park BLP211?????
Doesn't the last line in message tell the story?
No, that has been like that long before this change
Quote from: RescueHazmat on February 14, 2009, 08:05:46 PM
Doesn't the last line in message tell the story?
Not really... the appliance code itself is whacked... BPK = brooklyn park and yet 21 is beulah.
TOTAL RAISED FOR BUSHFIRE APPEAL $17,861.90 MFS Murray Bridge Response
Well done guys!! :-)
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 18/02/09 08:31,RESPOND To,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 C 16 TG182,CNR EAST TERRACE MODEL PLANE UP TREE,ADL203
It's things like this that make you go hmmmm..!
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 18, 2009, 10:41:50 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 18/02/09 08:31,RESPOND To,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 C 16 TG182,CNR EAST TERRACE MODEL PLANE UP TREE,ADL203
It's things like this that make you go hmmmm..!
I guess if you can't get your PR work with kittens anymore, you take what you can get... :P
CFS: AIR OPS INFO: FIRE SPOTTER 506 AND LEP AAS TO GO ONTO ACTIVE STANDBY AT PT LINC AB - SARC CANT > 18/02/2009 2:40:58 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
wuld that be due to a higher than expected FDI?
1908971 19:40:33 18-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 18/02/09 19:42,RESPOND Smoke in Area,DASHWOOD BAY ,KANGAROO ISLAND MAP 0 0 0 TG130,SMOKE IN AREA OF FOREST AS PER PHONE CAL,L TO KANGARILLA CAPT,SAIR55 KANG00 CFS Kangarilla Response
What the,
Thats a bit different
Dashwood Gully Rd
Kangarilla SA 5157, Australia
would be the correct location.
most likely pressed the wrong Streetname ;)
Meadows Info, would the last driver of 24P like to go to station and try to start the truck please. The isolator was on when i was just at station.CFS Meadows Info
Meadows Info. Message to all drivers of appliances. If trucks are not
isolated then our responsibility to respond is at risk. The community
expects us to respond when called. Please make sure trucks are
isolated as this saves alot of embarrassment
CFS Meadows Info
WOOPS
hhmmmm yes found this at one of our neighbouring brigades on wednesday night...they were very embarassed...
Quote from: SA Firey on February 22, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
Meadows Info, would the last driver of 24P like to go to station and try to start the truck please. The isolator was on when i was just at station.CFS Meadows Info
Meadows Info. Message to all drivers of appliances. If trucks are not
isolated then our responsibility to respond is at risk. The community
expects us to respond when called. Please make sure trucks are
isolated as this saves alot of embarrassment
CFS Meadows Info
WOOPS
I hope this was done 'tongue-in-cheek' otherwise I think it's a bit insulting and could of been said/done in a much more positive way such as reminding everyone in the brigade or on the truck the principle of looking out for one another and ensuring all required tasks are done.
Obviously I do not know the individual situation as to what happened when they got back to the station and whether the VOLUNTEER driver had to rush away etc....?????
or whether this is aimed an one individual that has done it on many occasions, might just be a case of the written word not carrying the whole story!
1909302 13:55:52 27-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 27/02/09 13:52,RESPOND Assist Police,BAY RD,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT STH MAP 000 0 0 TG226,SIEGE SITUATION STAGE ALLENDALE EAST TEN,NIS CRTS CONTACT SGT LAWRIE 87351020,ALLN00 CFS Port Macdonnell Group Officers Response
1909303 13:55:50 27-02-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 27/02/09 13:52,RESPOND Assist Police,BAY RD,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT STH MAP 000 0 0 TG226,SIEGE SITUATION STAGE ALLENDALE EAST TEN,NIS CRTS CONTACT SGT LAWRIE 87351020,ALLN00 CFS Allendale East Response
1909302 15:20:31 27-02-09 MFS: STOP FOR INC058 - FROM SAPOL*URGMSG CFS Port Macdonnell Group Officers Response
1909303 15:20:29 27-02-09 MFS: STOP FOR INC058 - FROM SAPOL*URGMSG CFS Allendale East Response
hrm, interesting, and a stop msg hour and a half later, whut?
1908852 14:53:45 02-03-09 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SELF HOSTED TELECONFERENCE AT 1630 HRS RE: EXTREME WIND - DSC EDEN > 02/03/2009 2:53:33 PM CFS HQ Info
Does anyone anything about this cause the South Australia forecast doesnt say anything about extreme winds here :|
Robert the warnings for NSW are already out for tomorrow - not happy flying to Sydney in the afternoon at the height of the storm :-(
chook i beleive he was asking about SOUTH AUSTRALIA!!...i checked the forecast and cant see anythin of 35 knots
The BoM site has a forecast of a windy change, with a gale warning issued for some coasts. I would guess that if it crosses the coast, it will be a severe weather event. With the amount of dry trees in stress, I would guess some damage could occur.
Mac - I KNOW!!! The change is coming over from the south west passing over SA before reaching us therefore I would be pretty safe to assume that what I said could infact be relevant to you guys!
Check out the forcast maps, if you don't believe me.
Anyway Mac you are more than likely right - after all nothing ever exciting happens in SA :wink:
lol all good chook :) yea Sa coastal forecasts are only forecastingup to 35 knots i guess thats pretty windy but not extreme..better to be safe than sorry..rather be in SA than VIC 2 mora
Considering the information below I'm a touch perplex (but not surprised) that SA isn't forecasting something a bit more significant:-
Peak wind gusts of 90 to 100 km/h are expected over the Lower Western, Riverina and western parts of the Upper Western district during Tuesday, especially near the front. Towns in the affected area include Broken Hill, Wentworth, Ivanhoe, Balranald, Deniliquin, Hay, Griffith, Narrandera, Wilcannia and Tibooburra.
The very windy conditions will produce extensive areas of raised dust and will result in very high to extreme fire danger conditions.
Over Alpine areas of the Southwest Slopes, Southern Tablelands and ACT, winds will strengthen to average 60 to 70 km/h by late Tuesday with gusts to around 110 km/h about the peaks.
As it will most likely miss Adelaide but hit areas of East Region - I would have thought similar warnings should apply to the Mallee, Riverland & south east- oh well, from past experience I'm not surprised after all if it doesn't impact Adelaide it don't count :evil:
I'm also surprised SES teams are possibly being assembled for Victoria, for the same reason I didn't think it was a good idea to send multitudes of CFS teams on the weekend of Black Saturday - there is still a significant risk at home. Who was it who said "look after your own backyard first". Victoria is a good example of don't put all of your eggs in one basket :wink:
On that note I'm off to have several beers & pray to the gods of safe air travel :-D
cheers
20 accidents in 2 hours in the metropolitan area.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on March 02, 2009, 09:24:36 PM
20 accidents in 2 hours in the metropolitan area.
it should be recognised based on repeated evidence that driver's brains are water soluble
1930428 16:42:16 03-03-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC105 03/03/09 16:41,RESPOND To,NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 B 9 TG182,ROYAL ADELAIDE TO ASSIST EMERGENCIES DEP,CUT RING OF FINGER AREA B PRIORITY 2,ADL204 MFS Stn 20
Hmmm i wonder if they are going to be using a ring cutter or the jaws of life :wink:
QDTHE VICTORIAN RACING CLUB HAS INVITED ALL CFA MEMBERS TO A RACE DAY AT FLEMINGTON THIS SATURDAY 07/03/09, CORPORATE MARQUEE INCLUDING FREE ENTRANCE, DRINKS AND FOOD. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT JENNA CLARKE
that be worth a look 4 sure :-P
MFS: HELLO TO YOU TO, AND WELCOME 339 TO THE FOLD :)
MFS: *CFSRES INC020 06/03/09 09:49,RESPOND Gas Domestic,BROWNES RD,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0 TG195,2 X PERSONS COLLAPSED UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE,AMB ATTENDING TECH STUDIES ROOM MT GAMBI,ER HIGH SCHOOL,MTG701
Turns out the collapsings had nothing to do with a gas leak, thus no gas leak found
bl00dy emo kids......
ALL THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN FIRE FIGHTER LEVEL 1 TRAINING PLEASE CONTACT DUTY UNIT MANAGER 0427 714 239 SES Pt Lincoln
Anyone have anymore info?
I know SES in the past have participated in Level 1 courses. - basic knowledge in fire fighting safety and principles, guess is meant to give them better understanding if assisting at larger incidents / working with CFS members.
Quote from: JC on March 10, 2009, 10:09:47 PM
ALL THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN FIRE FIGHTER LEVEL 1 TRAINING PLEASE CONTACT DUTY UNIT MANAGER 0427 714 239 SES Pt Lincoln
Anyone have anymore info?
Think maybe it will be a pre-requisite for futher interstate fire deployments.........just in case a BBQ breaks out :evil: :-D :-( :cry: aaaahhh lighten up!
Doesn't hurt to have some basic knowledge.
It may also have something to do with bomber support, although im not sure that Pt Lincoln SES participate in that.
Quote from: jaff on March 10, 2009, 10:20:28 PM
Quote from: JC on March 10, 2009, 10:09:47 PM
ALL THOSE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN FIRE FIGHTER LEVEL 1 TRAINING PLEASE CONTACT DUTY UNIT MANAGER 0427 714 239 SES Pt Lincoln
Anyone have anymore info?
Think maybe it will be a pre-requisite for futher interstate fire deployments.........just in case a BBQ breaks out :evil: :-D :-( :cry: aaaahhh lighten up!
exactly Jaff....fireground catering is a vital and undervalued role :-P
not all places hate the SES in fact i know we work hand in hand with our SES anduse them at fires quite often
10:49
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Quote from: mac13 on March 11, 2009, 09:22:15 AM
not all places hate the SES in fact i know we work hand in hand with our SES anduse them at fires quite often
awww Mac.....don't confuse a little mutual fun poking as hate...thats a very strong word.
its all TIC fella
i realise its tongue in cheek...i just always stick up for SES because they are good 4 us in our area.
I saw where MT was coming from - and realised it was all stiring in good fun! Just out of interest - several Orange peril units have done BFF1 for exactly the reasons stated, they work on the fire ground.
It was a pity while in SA it wasn't offered to us (my unit), since we were stepping off our boats onto the fireground & actually fighting fires (the GO at the time didn't think we needed it).
So great idea I reckon (considering the fire risk that area of the state seems to face every summer)& Mac I've never come across a firefighting type person who I would say hated us - they just wanted to take our toys away :wink:
cheers & have a good one
All the more reason to merge the service :wink:
ah feck it..lets just go US style....EMS/Fire/rescue all in one......
...on 2nd thoughts......that wouldn't work for this forum
coz you lot wouldn't be able to whinge about how long it took SAAS to call fireys :evil:
Ah no Darren - need to spread the egotist out not clump them altogether :wink:
And yes Boardy you are of course quite correct - you paramedics are just so preceptive :-D (did you see All Saints last night? - Made me spew :-D )
MFS: CFSRES AUSPINE RESPOND GRASS AND SCRUB FIRE - TUFFNELLS RD, NANGEELA - FROM VICFIRE BALLARAT INC NUMBER 3749 - PH 1800 452 544 FOR FURTHER DETAILS 11/03/2009 8:01:29 PM Auspine Response
Quote from: chook on March 11, 2009, 06:11:29 PM
And yes Boardy you are of course quite correct - you paramedics are just so preceptive :-D (did you see All Saints last night? - Made me spew :-D )
er no....didn't and don't watch it.....
no point when you know it all already is there!?
True true :-D
1909192 12:54:54 13-03-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC032 13/03/09 12:54,RESPOND Hazmat Reduced,CNR ANGLE VALE RD & OLD PORT WAKEFIELD RD,VIRGINIA MAP 39 D 10 TG102,APPROX 20L OF SULPHURIC ACID SPILLED,FROM OVERTURNED TRAILER,VIRG19 CFS
Just curious wouldnt a job like this normally need a full Hazmat response or at least 1 Hazmat brigade responded to it?
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on March 13, 2009, 11:36:43 AM
1909192 12:54:54 13-03-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC032 13/03/09 12:54,RESPOND Hazmat Reduced,CNR ANGLE VALE RD & OLD PORT WAKEFIELD RD,VIRGINIA MAP 39 D 10 TG102,APPROX 20L OF SULPHURIC ACID SPILLED,FROM OVERTURNED TRAILER,VIRG19 CFS
Just curious wouldnt a job like this normally need a full Hazmat response or at least 1 Hazmat brigade responded to it?
Just a BYO Bi-Carb Soda party! :-D
Hazmat Reduced: 1 Hazmat Brigade..possibly none if its just an investigation that leads to a conclusion of an Oil Spill...but better safe than sorry ;)
Hazmat Incident: 2 Hazmat Brigades or more
Assist SAAS: *shrugs* hazmat might be needed...
Mmmm.... but how is a 20L Sulphuric Acid spill a "HAZMAT Reduced"?
Isn't it reduced when you hit it with copious amounts of water....? :evil:
Pip
Quote from: Zippy on March 13, 2009, 05:25:43 PM
Hazmat Reduced: 1 Hazmat Brigade..possibly none if its just an investigation that leads to a conclusion of an Oil Spill...but better safe than sorry ;)
Since when were Virginia a hazmat brigade? And how often does sulfuric acid turn out to be oil?
Quote from: Alex on March 13, 2009, 06:44:21 PM
Mmmm.... but how is a 20L Sulphuric Acid spill a "HAZMAT Reduced"?
yeah..how did adelaide fire come to that conclusion lolz
Whats even more interesting is that the nearest HAZMAT brigade (Dalkeith) were responded over an hour later than Virginia!
MFS: *CFSRES INC032 13/03/09 12:54,RESPOND Hazmat Reduced,CNR ANGLE VALE RD & OLD PORT WAKEFIELD RD,VIRGINIA MAP 39 D 10 TG102,APPROX 20L OF SULPHURIC ACID SPILLED,FROM OVERTURNED TRAILER,VIRG19 CFS Virginia Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC032 13/03/09 14:10,RESPOND Hazmat Reduced,ANGLE VALE RD,VIRGINIA MAP 39 C 1 TG102,CNR OLD PORT WAKEFIELD RD SULPHURIC ACID,SPILL CONTACT VIRGINAI CAPTAIN ON RADIO,GRN 102 BEFORE DEPARTURE,DALK19 CFS Dalkeith Response
That isn't unusual for a 'Hazmat Reduced' response.
The second response, should have been a normal Hazmat response.
-The same questions were asked a few years ago, went to a 'Hazmat Reduced' Cholorine Bomb Explosion. Sense? ..
I can see the problem there, in MFS land all 9's are Hazmat equiupped.
lol yeah..meanwhile Virginia's like ehhh christ how do we do it....lick it up?
12:32:54 17-03-09 Strath SES New Navara has gone for repairs. Total brake failure SES Strathalbyn :-o
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 17/03/09 12:51,RESPOND Fire Alarm,ESPLANADE ,CHRISTIES BEACH MAP 185 F 8 TG182,CHRISTIES BEACH SURF LIFESAVING CLUB,SMOKE ALARM FROM STAIRWELL,KEYS HOLDER 10 MINS,CDN431 CDN439 MFS Gawler 359
Don't get to excited, Gawler had a spare truck and when they gave it back the pager number attached to 359 was left in the system, so when Christies took it over it still had 359's pager number attached to it.
Quote from: Darren on March 18, 2009, 07:30:21 AM
Don't get to excited, Gawler had a spare truck and when they gave it back the pager number attached to 359 was left in the system, so when Christies took it over it still had 359's pager number attached to it.
DAMM,.............Righto! I'll remove my printout of the pager message from the frame and put the photo of Balhannah 34 bogged back in and "take it straight to the pool room" :-D
Its the highlight of my day to ruin speculation :-D
hahahahaha.
MFS: *CFSRES INC011 18/03/09 09:36,RESPOND Tree Down,BASKET RANGE RD,URAIDLA MAP 133 Q 8 TG126,P1 500M OUT OF URAIDLA,MTB020 SUMM00
MFS: MT BARKER SES UNABLE 2 GET CREW IF U NEED EASTERN SUBURBS SES 2 ASSIST CONTACT ADEL FIRE
Pretty sure they can cope, them summertownians can do wonders, but ive noticed lately, some road signs have gone missing.
Quote from: SA Firey on March 17, 2009, 04:26:31 PM
12:32:54 17-03-09 Strath SES New Navara has gone for repairs. Total brake failure SES Strathalbyn :-o
that explains it leaving strath yesturday on a flat bed !!
Quote from: Darren on March 18, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
Its the highlight of my day to ruin speculation :-D
But the kiddies with no lives will have even less of a life when you come charging in telling the truth!
Not fair Mr. Darren
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 24/03/09 13:51,RESPOND ALARM 13/114,ROYAL ADELAIDE HOSPITAL,CHEST CLINIC,275 NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 4 G 4 TG182,FIP WEST ENTRY AIR LOCK,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL203
MFS:1: *CFSRES INC025 24/03/09 14:02,RESPOND ALARM 13/114,ROYAL ADELAIDE HOSPITAL,CHEST CLINIC,275 NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 4 G 4 TG182,FIP WEST ENTRY AIR LOCK,RESPOND AS 1ST ALARM HAZMAT 201, 203 AND 205 ON SCENE TG155,ADL204 ADL206 41
Interesting....
But more to the fact...When training, particularly in Urban Excersizes and Responses, are considerations given for Simulations of Responding to Alarms and expecting something that isnt a Fire???
sounds like a shift DO's Drill
MFS: *CFSRES INC045 24/03/09 18:12,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,6 CARMELA AV,MORPHETT VALE MAP 187 A 5,DISTRESSED DISABLED WOMAN FLOODED BACKYR,D AND NEIGHBOURS YARD SINCE SAT. P4 CONT,ACT SANDRA 8325 3683,NOA029
Can anyone elaborate?
Hey Zippy the road signs are back.....for now. Damn things just keep jumping out of the ground in the middle of the night :roll:
HAHA nice...yeah it was a nice present in the back yard and on ya work vehicle? :P
They were not the sort of garden ornaments that I was after......
04:28:45 26-03-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC006 26/03/09 04:27,RESPOND RESCUE HEIGHTS,VICTORIA SQ,ADELAIDE MAP 4 A 9 TG182,ADELAIDE HILTON HOTEL, PERSON HANGING FR,OM 8TH FLOOR INFO FROM POLICE,EAS020 ADL205 ADL204 41 ADL201 SES Eastern Suburbs
I would have looked twice if I had received this pager call to see if I read it properly...
Quote from: bajdas on March 26, 2009, 07:44:27 AM
04:28:45 26-03-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC006 26/03/09 04:27,RESPOND RESCUE HEIGHTS,VICTORIA SQ,ADELAIDE MAP 4 A 9 TG182,ADELAIDE HILTON HOTEL, PERSON HANGING FR,OM 8TH FLOOR INFO FROM POLICE,EAS020 ADL205 ADL204 41 ADL201 SES Eastern Suburbs
I would have looked twice if I had received this pager call to see if I read it properly...
Another newly wed groom discovering the joys of marriage! :evil:
MFS: *CFSRES INC031 26/03/09 12:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,SEAFORD
RD,SEAFORD MAP 195 F 14 TG134,AT THE NEW SEAFORD MFS STATION,SEAF00
MRPH00 SAIR55 CDN431
CFS Seaford Response
Lol.... that place has had about 3 fire calls now....
Can only expect the firefighters to man that station will be causing lots of cooking fires for lunch.
TT14 will be offline indefinately. Awaiting new pump. TTG Capt.
CFS Tea Tree Gully Info
Not having a good run with 14's
Quote from: SA Firey on March 26, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC031 26/03/09 12:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,SEAFORD
RD,SEAFORD MAP 195 F 14 TG134,AT THE NEW SEAFORD MFS STATION,SEAF00
MRPH00 SAIR55 CDN431
CFS Seaford Response
People will do anything to stop a MFS station being put up!
MFS: *CFSRES INC067 26/03/09 20:57,RESPOND RCR,GAWLER-ONE TREE HI RD,GAWLER SOUTH MAP 23 P 15 TG182,NEAR DEAD MANS PASS,GAW359 ELZ339
Intersting how they're sending the rescue/pumper to assist Gawler who already have a rescue/pumper, considering 331 is still in the shed.
I would of thought keeping 339 in it's own area in case of a RCR would be the logical thing :?
Remember the bigger picture..... :roll:
Adelaide Fire generally have a good reason for doing these things.
Im not sure what ur aware of in your world Hazmat206, but pretty much ..that adheres to the "non-Metro" Response to RCR's.
for CFS its: 2 Brigades, 1 appliance each. 1 Being Rescue, 1 being Fire.
I thought in the world of MFS...Vehicle Accidents are 1 Fire appliance only, and RCR's are 2 (1 being a rescue).
Similar Graded Elevation of vehicle accidents is done in CFA/MFB.
- 1. Washaway
- 2. Road Rescue
- 3. MVA Fire
I have heard over Vicfire radio, a brigade call for a pager activiation for a manual turnout to a vehicle accident. Vicfire asked them specifically: "Is it a Washaway, Rescue or Fire" "Washaway, only require local brigade pager activation".
Quote from: Hazmat206 on March 26, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC067 26/03/09 20:57,RESPOND RCR,GAWLER-ONE TREE HI RD,GAWLER SOUTH MAP 23 P 15 TG182,NEAR DEAD MANS PASS,GAW359 ELZ339
Intersting how they're sending the rescue/pumper to assist Gawler who already have a rescue/pumper, considering 331 is still in the shed.
I would of thought keeping 339 in it's own area in case of a RCR would be the logical thing :?
As has been said, look at the bigger picture.
Obviously the pager doesn't tell you everything... however, from the page, it does tell you that the crash has been reported as an RCR - so either an entrapment, or no information available as to if an entrapment exists.
The crash may have been reported as a two car crash.... if there are two cars, both with a possible entrapment, then TWO rescue appliances are required.... and since Gawler have only one truck, it would appear the next closest rescue was also dispatched.
If my summation was correct, then it is quite logical to send two rescues !!!
Pip
Pip is right look at the big picture...Who said that all other MFS appliances were not tied up at other calls. If 339 is the next closest pump then it will back up 359, it is just a bonus them both being pump rescue appliances. You will find as more MFS stations get rescue there will be pump rescues responding with each other, one for the rescue and one for fire cover.
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020
Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?
SAPol sometimes request SES specifically dependant on incident type.
Traffic control, lighting, searches, crime scene preservation are usually a request for SES specifically...
Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020
Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?
Duuuh! They were hungry :-D
Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020
Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?
SAPOL asked for SES as they thought they could use our equipment to perform a vehicle recovery. Not only broken down but stuck on the wrong side of the gutter. Ended up requesting a heavy towing company. :)
Quote from: Dave O on April 03, 2009, 04:39:59 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020
Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?
SAPOL asked for SES as they thought they could use our equipment to perform a vehicle recovery. Not only broken down but stuck on the wrong side of the gutter. Ended up requesting a heavy towing company. :)
cheers Dave O....interesting train of SAPOL thought.....not! :?
Quote from: misterteddy on April 03, 2009, 06:44:09 AM
Quote from: Dave O on April 03, 2009, 04:39:59 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on March 30, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC051 30/03/09 17:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES HWY,STIRLING MAP 145 C 11 TG136,SAPOL REQ SES ATTEND,TRUCK BROKEN DOWN UNDER OLD MT BARKER,ROAD BRIDGE, P1,STRL19 STT020
Anyone know why the SES was requested? Not looking at starting a crapfight....just interested. Traffic control??...if so, others thoughts on this as an appropriate use of them?
SAPOL asked for SES as they thought they could use our equipment to perform a vehicle recovery. Not only broken down but stuck on the wrong side of the gutter. Ended up requesting a heavy towing company. :)
cheers Dave O....interesting train of SAPOL thought.....not! :?
Not to mention P1...
Life risk at a towing job... TOTALLY
Good call Numbers..
Not so smart.. Particularly if SAPOL were in attendance, and already managing the traffic hazard due to the trucks location..
MFS: *CFSRES INC042 05/04/09 16:29,RESPOND SHED FIRE,HANSON RD N,WINGFIELD MAP 93 A 5 TG182,B RISK 1ST ALARM CONFIRMED FIRE,FIRE IN RUBBISH INSIDE SHED,WINGFIELD DUMP,ADL205 31 WDV243 ADL206 MFS Stn 20
here we go again
nah...not as bad lol
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,RIDDOCK HWY - CARTER HOLT HARVEY,FIRE IN THE BAG HOUSE,NANG00 CFS Nangwarry Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:35,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CARTER HOLT HARVEY BAG HOUSE,PENO19 CFS Penola Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:39,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CARTER HOLT HARVEY - FIRE IN BAG ROOM,KALA00 TRPN00 CFS Kalangadoo Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 06/04/09 11:39,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,NANGWARRY CFS,NANGWARRY MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CARTER HOLT HARVEY - FIRE IN BAG ROOM,KALA00 TRPN00 CFS Tarpeena Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC028 06/04/09 12:22,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,JUBILEE HWY EAST E,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0 TG195,CARTER HOLT HARVEY - FIRE IN THE KILN,MTG701 MFS Mt Gambier Response
Coincidence maybe??
Nope no coincidence i was at the Nangwarry Mill incident and boy did my turn out gear get really dirty and wet cause there was foam every where :roll: these bag fires are a pain in the neck to put out
06:46:07 09-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 09/04/09 06:43,RESPOND RCR,MAIN HIGHWAY, 10MIN NORTH OF PORT WAKEFIELD ,PORT WAKEFIELD MAP 0 0 0 TG104,TRUCK ROLLOVER,PTWK19 SNW029...NANT00
06:47:48 09-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 09/04/09 06:47,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 WHITWARTA ST,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,MCCARLDES PTY LTD,FERTILISER SHED ON FIRE,BALA00 OWEN00 HMLY19...CLAR28
Busy timez for Wakefield Plains this morning....sure woulda got the Groupies scratching there heads....
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/04/09 17:00,RESPOND Assist SAAS,CEDUNA CFS,CEDUNA MAP 0 0 0 TG009,TO DRIVE AN AMBULANCE TO FOWLERS BAY,CEDU19
What next, driving police cars! :lol:
You will be surprised what happens outside of the Metro Hazmat206...
This sort of thing has happened legitmately in my response area, close to the metro area...purely so the two ambo's can work collabratively on the paitent (cat1 case).
And FYI, it was a ambo from my brigade who had to drive the ambulance ;)
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 10, 2009, 07:47:14 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/04/09 17:00,RESPOND Assist SAAS,CEDUNA CFS,CEDUNA MAP 0 0 0 TG009,TO DRIVE AN AMBULANCE TO FOWLERS BAY,CEDU19
What next, driving police cars! :lol:
Probably had something to do with a rather nasty accident, involving a report of 5 casualties. (Well, all initial reports from the scene were up to 5 cas.)
Zip, think you will find they would have had one Ambulance Officer/Paramedic but needed someone to be able to drive them back while they worked on the Pt in the rear. ~ Or possibly so both could be in the back, this has happend on a number of occasions before, but I would be leaning towards the first idea.
I think they were desperate for a third crew out of Ceduna, might have only had one more person available so wanted a CFS member to act as a second (driver).
Nothing wrong with this at all, we did a training session about six months ago with SAAS where we shown all the bits n pieces we needed to know should we have to drive a Merc. In fact when I first started in the CFS I know our guys drove an Ambo at a few jobs, I certainly know MFS have done it in the last 12 months.
I am sure the person in the back of the ambulance wouldn't care what colour the driver wore, just so long as they got to the hospital as quickly as possible.
I was led to believe that we are all there for the good of the community, and to support each other no matter what service we are in!!!
:-D
I've used other services as drivers a couple of times....one CFS and one (shudder) SES. At least he knew how to drive Pri 1 (seeing as they do it all the time...lol), my only issue was trying to stop him at every tree on the way to check if it was in danger of falling :evil:
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just kidding boys and girls....... :-D, both were fine, see not even a crack about a driver who can make u lunch either....it must be a religious holiday
i've used the odd firebod to drive to hosp before and went quite well...until the first intersection when the brakes got slammed on - and the ABS was shown to work rather efficiently. Not to mention the IV needle that ended up in the front of the car somewhere.....
But seriously - it is apprciated when you need it. I've also had other experiences with coppers and other firies who've done a better job than some para's i've worked with!
MFS: *CFSRES INC047 13/04/09 15:34,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,26 GUM CR,GAWLER WEST MAP 23 G 11 TG182,GAS HEATER ALIGHT.,GAW359 ELZ339
Would of thought it would of been too warm for that.
Yep had OJT on the sprinters, & we have had several guys driving the green buses at several incidents. At one job all three buses were driven by "orange people" - no big deal. As was said things are different outside of metro areas.
cheers
Quote from: chook on April 15, 2009, 07:24:45 PM
As was said things are different outside of metro areas.
I know this topic has now been thrashed out by everyone, but have to make a comment that this is common even in the so called "metro" area.
ALARM CLEARED at 16/04/2009 09:30:18: SAMFS PARADISE STATION, 57 DARLEY RD, PARADISE, PA ACKNOWLEDGE, 16/04/2009 09:29:58
yeah.
QuoteALARM CLEARED at 16/04/2009 09:30:18: SAMFS PARADISE STATION, 57 DARLEY RD, PARADISE, PA ACKNOWLEDGE, 16/04/2009 09:29:58
MFS: *CFSRES INC000 16/04/09 11:07,RESPOND RCR NO PERSONS TRAPPED,TEST SREET,TEST SUBURB MAP 84 G 2 TG182,CORNER OF SOME OTHER ROAD,TTGY19 PDS221
They are currently testing the Turnout Information Management (TIM) system.
They use the response page to activate the TIM and open the doors and lights etc, also opens the station PA which then sends the acknowledge page back via a spare slot in the station fire alarm system to Comm's so they know the initial page was received.
All new stations are using the TIM system and I believe there is talk of a few others going to it as well due to the lack of spare bits n pieces for the current VHF turnout system.
Those that like listening to the VHF turnout channel on 164.0375mhz will eventually be without it.
1909800 07:28:03 18-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 18/04/09 07:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BREBNER DR,WEST LAKES MAP 103 L 9 TG182,NEXT TO THE CROWS SHED,SAIR55 PAD251 CFS State Air Desk
1909800 02:42:31 18-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC013 18/04/09 02:42,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,WEST LAKES BVD,SEATON MAP 104 B 7 TG182,UNKNOWN FIRE ON POST OUTSIDE SEATON RAMB,LERS FOOTBALL CLUB.,SAIR55 WDV249 CFS State Air Desk
1909800 02:26:37 18-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 18/04/09 02:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,OPPOSITE 154 DIMENT RD,DIREK MAP 60 D 1 TG102,TREE & TREE CUTTINGS ALSO INVOLVED,IN WETLANDS,SLSB19 SAIR55 SAL321 CFS State Air Desk
1911204 00:03:50 18-04-09 HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL* MULTIPLE SMALL GRASS FIRES 34 RETURNED TO STATION - H/V STATION 18/04/2009 12:03:00 AM CFS Happy Valley Info?
1908973 23:30:31 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 17/04/09 23:29,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,4 PINK CT,OLD REYNELLA MAP 176 Q 8 TG134,SCRUB FIRE IN BIKE TRACK BEHING THIS,ADDRESS,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 OHH421 CFS Morphett Vale Response
1930656 23:16:33 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC076 17/04/09 23:15,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,MAYLANDS HOTEL,67 PHILLIS ST,MAYLANDS MAP 119 D 3 TG182,IN RESERVE OPP HOTEL, CNR CLIFTON ST,SAIR55 BLP211 MFS ex Beulah Park 211
1909800 22:52:52 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC075 17/04/09 22:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SEMAPHORE RD,SEMAPHORE MAP 91 H 6 TG182,BEHIND IGA AND ATLANTIC VIDEO NEAR CHUR,CH CNR MILITARY RD,SAIR55 WDV243 CFS State Air Desk
1926877 22:48:43 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC074 17/04/09 22:48,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,ROWE ST,DAVOREN PARK MAP 42 A 16 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ339 MFS Elizabeth 339 Response
1909800 22:35:05 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC070 17/04/09 22:34,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SEMAPHORE RD,EXETER MAP 91 H 6 TG182,144 NEAR EXETOR HOTEL,SAIR55 WDV243 CFS State Air Desk
1930430 22:31:28 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 17/04/09 22:31,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,BROADMEADOWS RAILWAY STATION,TISBURY ST,ELIZABETH NORTH MAP 52 A 5 TG182,,ELZ331 ELZ339 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
1909800 22:10:33 17-04-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 17/04/09 22:10,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,33 PIX RD,DAVOREN PARK MAP 41 P 14 TG182,POSSIBLE REAR YARD,SAIR55 ELZ331
Another one of those nights....
206 have a word to your union.........all this firefighting.........whens a man supossed to sleep! :-D
Quote from: jaff on April 18, 2009, 04:23:28 PM
206 have a word to your union.........all this firefighting.........whens a man supossed to sleep! :-D
and its a safety issue all that lack of sleep....how u supposed to do your other job the next day....lol :-P
What i'm pointing out is the number of rubbish fires in that space of time :wink:
Likely to be deliberate
Oh good heavens! Who'd have thought that you would get deliberately lit rubbish/grass/structure fires on a FRIDAY night!
Haven't been in the job long Mr. 206 have we?
CFS: AIR OPS INFO: DEH BURNOFF OUT OF CONTROL. SOUTH OF PT LINCOLN - AIR RESPONSE MAY BE REQUIRED - SARC CANT > 19/04/2009 11:18:46 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
mmmmmmmm bugger!!
mmmmmTYPICAL
CFS: *CFSRES BIRDDOG 500, BOMBER 582/584 & AIRCREW RESPOND GRASSFIRE, PORT LINCOLN, 277 DEGREES, 278 KMS FROM WAB AIRCREW ADVISE PICK UP LOC. TO AIRDESK PIR 855423 > 19/04/2009 11:27:16 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Quote from: Zippy on April 19, 2009, 11:01:38 AM
mmmmmTYPICAL
Go tell em legend, bet you never have a break away or associated with one in your career :wink:
11:38:00 19-04-09 R5HQ: fyi fire going well se corner of ngarkat 19/4/2009 11:37:38
Just for something different.
who said the fire season was over???
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on April 19, 2009, 11:36:22 AM
who said the fire season was over???
is it the big one?..is it?..is it?.....we still owe someone remember :-P
no you dont...dammit...poker is on tonight. (searchs online websites to setup a SAFF poker table)
Quote from: safireservice on April 19, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
11:38:00 19-04-09 R5HQ: fyi fire going well se corner of ngarkat 19/4/2009 11:37:38
Just for something different.
Ended up being over in Vic not in Ngarkat.
damm :-( <puts away the bag of rocks>
Quote from: misterteddy on April 19, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
damm :-( <puts away the bag of rocks>
09:55:30 20-04-09 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SELF HOSTED FIRE WEATHER TELE CONFERENCE AT 1030HRS TOMORROW THE 21/04/09 TO DISCUSS WEDNESDAY FIRE WEATHER, ALL USERS PLEASE LOG IN - DSC MILLER > 20/04/2009 9:55:14 AM CFS R2 HQ Info
Dont get your hopes on using your rocks on me..fire season is over, now its lunatic season (people who think its safe to burn off without good safety measures)...its probably RAINING on Wednesday... yes, Raining... (it better rain)
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 20/04/09 09:59,RESPOND Smoke in Area,PARA WIRRA NATIONAL PARK,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMOKE IN AREA OF RECREATION PARK,SAIR55 WLLM19
Further to last message: *head hits the table*
Quote from: misterteddy on April 19, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
damm :-( <puts away the bag of rocks>
Quote from: Zippy on April 20, 2009, 09:29:26 AM
Quote from: misterteddy on April 19, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
damm :-( <puts away the bag of rocks>
09:55:30 20-04-09 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SELF HOSTED FIRE WEATHER TELE CONFERENCE AT 1030HRS TOMORROW THE 21/04/09 TO DISCUSS WEDNESDAY FIRE WEATHER, ALL USERS PLEASE LOG IN - DSC MILLER > 20/04/2009 9:55:14 AM CFS R2 HQ Info
Dont get your hopes on using your rocks on me..fire season is over, now its lunatic season (people who think its safe to burn off without good safety measures)...its probably RAINING on Wednesday... yes, Raining... (it better rain)
Do you need a slingshot too misterteddy :lol: :lol:
nah if we bury him up to his shoulders we can get nice and close enough to lob them at him by hand
Quote from: 6739264 on April 18, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Oh good heavens! Who'd have thought that you would get deliberately lit rubbish/grass/structure fires on a FRIDAY night!
Haven't been in the job long Mr. 206 have we?
If at all?
Quote from: 6739264 on April 18, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Oh good heavens! Who'd have thought that you would get deliberately lit rubbish/grass/structure fires on a FRIDAY night!
Haven't been in the job long Mr. 206 have we?
two words.......SCHOOL HOLIDAYS
Quote from: boredmatrix on April 20, 2009, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on April 18, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Oh good heavens! Who'd have thought that you would get deliberately lit rubbish/grass/structure fires on a FRIDAY night!
Haven't been in the job long Mr. 206 have we?
two words.......SCHOOL HOLIDAYS
isn't that a normal fri/sat night in Elizabeth?
probably....
plus you get the kids throwing rocks at undercover cop cars and the spate of kids getting hit by...or having near misses with cars!
Quote09:31:33 21-04-09 MFS: RESPOND TANKER DRIVER INCIDENT 14 HEYSEN TUNNELS CFS Piccadilly Response
Fingers crossed CFS issued Piccadilly with a new tanker today, so that they could turn out...
Quote02:22:46 22-04-09 MRPH: POSSIBLE CONFIRMED FIRE,MORE CREW REQUIRED CFSRES - MAWSON BASE
Well, is it a "Possible Fire" or is it a "Confirmed Fire"???
OH! The stupidity continues...
TALK ABOUT TIMING!
FIRE ALARM TEST FOR CUMMINS HOSPITAL TO FOLLOW, PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND CFS Cummins Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC021 22/04/09 10:49,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CUMMINS ,CUMMINS MAP 0 0 0 TG014,STUBBLE FIRE, DEAN FUSS PROPERTY. SECTIO,N 8E HUNDRED OF CUMMINS.,SAIR55 CMMN19 YEEL00
RESPOND FIRE ALARM CUMMINS HOSPITAL, TUMBY BAY RD, CUMMINS, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 01/01/2000 00:07:27
FIRE ALARM TEST FOR CUMMINS HOSPITAL COMPLETED, PLEASE RESPOND TO FUTURE ALARMS CFS Cummins Response
Meanwhile it gets upgraded to include BROK00 CKAL00 KAPI00 EDIL00
lol for sure crap timing...
for interest sake it ws reported that the fire was started from smouldering "stubble dumps" from a burn off yesterday..
HUGE HUGE HUGE talkin point in the country at the moment!
wife is in cummins at the moment and said the sky was aglow with the number of farm burnoffs last night, looked quite spectacular i believe, no wind, some moisture in the air, perfect paddock burn weather.... Not sure about todays weather though, did they control it easy enough?
Quote from: gasman on April 22, 2009, 10:35:17 PM
wife is in cummins at the moment and said the sky was aglow with the number of farm burnoffs last night, looked quite spectacular i believe, no wind, some moisture in the air, perfect paddock burn weather.... Not sure about todays weather though, did they control it easy enough?
yeah that makes sense.....fireban today in your area with a probable high and eratic wind....so lets light up all the paddocks around us.....and then bitch like 20 men cos someone doesnt give us 24hrs notice and 4 registered mail warnings about the fire that got away from "you blokes who stuffed up stopping it".......
sometimes you just want to beat them to death with a blunt object
Quote from: misterteddy on April 22, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: gasman on April 22, 2009, 10:35:17 PM
wife is in cummins at the moment and said the sky was aglow with the number of farm burnoffs last night, looked quite spectacular i believe, no wind, some moisture in the air, perfect paddock burn weather.... Not sure about todays weather though, did they control it easy enough?
yeah that makes sense.....fireban today in your area with a probable high and eratic wind....so lets light up all the paddocks around us.....and then bitch like 20 men cos someone doesnt give us 24hrs notice and 4 registered mail warnings about the fire that got away from "you blokes who stuffed up stopping it".......
sometimes you just want to beat them to death with a blunt object
Its not the burning off paddocks that is the problem before a fire ban day because they are burnt and done within an hour. Its whats known as "chaff cart heaps" that can smoulder for days. from reports thats how the fire started at cummins. And there have been others get away from these burning heaps.
MFS: *CFSRES INC103 23/04/09 21:00,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,9 PHILIP HWY,ELIZABETH MAP 61 L 6,P2 - WATER ENTERING ROOF DUE TO GUTTERS,FULL OF DEBRIS.... CALLER 82523604,NAD020
Surely they knew bad weather was coming. Why can't people clean out gutters when weather like this is forecast?? :?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 23, 2009, 09:54:13 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC103 23/04/09 21:00,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,9 PHILIP HWY,ELIZABETH MAP 61 L 6,P2 - WATER ENTERING ROOF DUE TO GUTTERS,FULL OF DEBRIS.... CALLER 82523604,NAD020
Surely they knew bad weather was coming. Why can't people clean out gutters when weather like this is forecast?? :?
Yeah total fire ban day and all...no bushfire action plan!
Quote from: Zippy on April 23, 2009, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 23, 2009, 09:54:13 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC103 23/04/09 21:00,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,9 PHILIP HWY,ELIZABETH MAP 61 L 6,P2 - WATER ENTERING ROOF DUE TO GUTTERS,FULL OF DEBRIS.... CALLER 82523604,NAD020
Surely they knew bad weather was coming. Why can't people clean out gutters when weather like this is forecast?? :?
Yeah total fire ban day and all...no bushfire action plan!
They were too busy out shopping......unfortunately they can only shop during business hours........whilst the owners are at work! :evil:
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: THERE WILL STILL BE A TELSTRA HOSTED TELECONFERENCE AT 1030HRS TODAY THE 30/04/09 - ALSO TO DISCUSS THE PANDEMIC FLU PLAN - SC LAWSON > 30/04/2009 9:35:00 AM
and our core business again is????
Bangers and Mash?
Quote from: misterteddy on April 30, 2009, 11:02:28 AM
and our core business again is????
To protect life, property and the environment from fire and other emergencies whilst protecting and supporting our personnel and continuously improving? or something?
Quote from: misterteddy on April 30, 2009, 11:02:28 AM
and our core business again is????
Surely if this got scheiße house enough, it could fall under a CBR banner where we are concerned?
Anyway, what happens when half the fire service is out of action with said pandemic? Im thinking they need a plan of some sort.
Quote from: Alex on April 30, 2009, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on April 30, 2009, 11:02:28 AM
and our core business again is????
Surely if this got filtered house enough, it could fall under a CBR banner where we are concerned?
Anyway, what happens when half the fire service is out of action with said pandemic? Im thinking they need a plan of some sort.
turnout times for half the Brigades would improve because they would default?
The main focus of the Tele-con was to plan how best to protect our fire-fighters if the PANDEMIC hits Aust. So I see it as very relevant. Gee bashed if you don't plan bashed if you do :roll:
Quote from: wombat34 on April 30, 2009, 05:43:52 PM
The main focus of the Tele-con was to plan how best to protect our fire-fighters if the PANDEMIC hits Aust. So I see it as very relevant. Gee bashed if you don't plan bashed if you do :roll:
Yeh your right, we bash you when your doing the right thing, we bash you when your doing the wrong thing! Good thing we ride around on Fire trucks not Harleys, otherwise Mike would be after us! :evil:
Quote from: wombat34 on April 30, 2009, 05:43:52 PM
The main focus of the Tele-con was to plan how best to protect our fire-fighters if the PANDEMIC hits Aust. So I see it as very relevant. Gee bashed if you don't plan bashed if you do :roll:
would have thought that a very brief teleconference.....follow the instructions from SA Health, SAAS, and no doubt the SES who will be there in case Swine Flu becomes lodged in trees
There hasnt been any reports of swine flu infected pigs flying around Adelaide though misterteddy :lol: :lol: :lol:
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 12/05/09 06:28,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,99 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,LEVEL 5 EAST,ADL201
Wonder what the story behind this is...who flooded Adelaide Fire comcen.....
Leaking toilet.....sigh
Quote from: misterteddy on April 30, 2009, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: wombat34 on April 30, 2009, 05:43:52 PM
The main focus of the Tele-con was to plan how best to protect our fire-fighters if the PANDEMIC hits Aust. So I see it as very relevant. Gee bashed if you don't plan bashed if you do :roll:
would have thought that a very brief teleconference.....follow the instructions from SA Health, SAAS, and no doubt the SES who will be there in case Swine Flu becomes lodged in trees
Emergency Management Plan?
Or shall we go by your thinking and keep the Fire (and other) Emergency Services in the dark, till the day it may become a major problem, then just expect everyone to jump into action and know what to do.. ?
Pre Planning.. AIIMS.. Forward Thinking.. - shall I risk saying it, Common Sense?
Hmmm..
Quote from: RescueHazmat on May 12, 2009, 08:54:04 AM
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Emergency Management Plan?
Or shall we go by your thinking and keep the Fire (and other) Emergency Services in the dark, till the day it may become a major problem, then just expect everyone to jump into action and know what to do.. ?
Pre Planning.. AIIMS.. Forward Thinking.. - shall I risk saying it, Common Sense?
Hmmm..
Oh course you can't do a google search of the internet & find a copy of the Plan that was updated in 2007 !! Try http://www.pandemicinfluenza.sa.gov.au/ and the bottom right-hand corner links. The National plan was even tested in 2008 :wink:
The Operational Plan lists that State Emergency Centre (SEC) would be activated by Dept of Health to co-ordinate a state-wide response and SES could assist with Transport
It is good to see the screening organised quickly at the airports. Hmmmmm, maybe that was pre-planned tooo.... :-D :-o
Even my workplace (international IT firm) has activated monitoring for 'business continuity' issues for clients. This includes any sick employee worldwide.
And two years ago - all Unit managers (& I would assume all Groups) were asked how many people could they provide to assist in a pandemic (for transport, assist with pre hospital triage, body disposal etc).
Not sure of the final count - one could guess though!
And yep we do BCP as well - which includes pandemics, including ramping up production of certain types of food that are safe & required during a disease outbreak. The plan started to be put in place with all overseas travel banned unless approved by the CEO.
cHEERS
http://sacfs.org/publications/State_Emergency_Management_Plan_v1.1_Sep2007.pdf
1926891 11:26:30 13-05-09 MFS: PLEASE RETURN TO STATION 21 MFS Gawler 359
1926891 11:13:13 13-05-09 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 MFS Gawler 359
1930429 11:13:11 13-05-09 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
1930430 11:09:56 13-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC032 13/05/09 11:08,RESPOND ALARM 35/005,TRINITY COLLEGE,SENIOR SCHOOL,ALEXANDER AVE,EVANSTON SOUTH MAP 33 H 8 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY NORTH WALL,,ELZ339 ELZ331
Wrong button i'm guessing??
1927244 17:31:45 14-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC044 14/05/09 17:30,RESPOND Assist SAAS,LEIGH CREEK SOUTH ,LEIGH CREEK STH MAP 0 0 0 TG072,SINGLE PERSON REQUIRED TO DRIVE AMBULANC,E -REPORT TO AMBULANCE STATION,LCRK00 CFS/NRG Leigh Creek Response
Another sign of the times with SAAS volunteer stations remote areas of SA having crewing difficulties that require them to ask for CFS to provide a driver for their ambulance
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on May 14, 2009, 06:35:15 PM
1927244 17:31:45 14-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC044 14/05/09 17:30,RESPOND Assist SAAS,LEIGH CREEK SOUTH ,LEIGH CREEK STH MAP 0 0 0 TG072,SINGLE PERSON REQUIRED TO DRIVE AMBULANC,E -REPORT TO AMBULANCE STATION,LCRK00 CFS/NRG Leigh Creek Response
Another sign of the times with SAAS volunteer stations remote areas of SA having crewing difficulties that require them to ask for CFS to provide a driver for their ambulance
Driving instructions for said event..........Drive it like you stole it,.... with care, of course! :-D
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on May 14, 2009, 06:35:15 PM
1927244 17:31:45 14-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC044 14/05/09 17:30,RESPOND Assist SAAS,LEIGH CREEK SOUTH ,LEIGH CREEK STH MAP 0 0 0 TG072,SINGLE PERSON REQUIRED TO DRIVE AMBULANC,E -REPORT TO AMBULANCE STATION,LCRK00 CFS/NRG Leigh Creek Response
Another sign of the times with SAAS volunteer stations remote areas of SA having crewing difficulties that require them to ask for CFS to provide a driver for their ambulance
Married people need not apply!.........Its A SAAS thing........ Boredy would have more details :lol:
it's leigh creek....population 10
only problem is that by using a firey - you've got no pumpie for when that one fire a year happens.....
CFS crews in the SE have been helping SAAS for years by driving or helping with CPR just another community service that we are happy to help SAAS with...
Ive noticed that the Leigh Creek paging group is linked the the CFS:SIGINC's paging group.... i guess they must get lonely up at Leigh creek so they don't care what sort of outside world news they receive... must be the newspaper telling them 4 persons died on our roads today.
1928011 11:15:28 15-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 15/05/09 11:14,RESPOND Assist Police,STAMFORD PLAZA BUILDING NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP B A 3,P3 - ASSIST POLICE WITH SCENE PROTECTION,EAS020 SES Central Region
Does anyone know more?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 15, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
1928011 11:15:28 15-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 15/05/09 11:14,RESPOND Assist Police,STAMFORD PLAZA BUILDING NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP B A 3,P3 - ASSIST POLICE WITH SCENE PROTECTION,EAS020 SES Central Region
Does anyone know more?
With the current heavy rain in the Adelaide CBD, most probably wanting tarps.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 15, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
1928011 11:15:28 15-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 15/05/09 11:14,RESPOND Assist Police,STAMFORD PLAZA BUILDING NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP B A 3,P3 - ASSIST POLICE WITH SCENE PROTECTION,EAS020 SES Central Region
Does anyone know more?
**whistle** splat...
Quote from: OMGWTF on May 16, 2009, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 15, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
1928011 11:15:28 15-05-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 15/05/09 11:14,RESPOND Assist Police,STAMFORD PLAZA BUILDING NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP B A 3,P3 - ASSIST POLICE WITH SCENE PROTECTION,EAS020 SES Central Region
Does anyone know more?
**whistle** splat...
Another use for the tarps to keep the public from viewing. Sad tasking.
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 19/05/09 00:16,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,ANZAC HWY,GLENELG MAP 140 F 2 TG182,MOTOR BIKE IN CARPARK OF ATLANTIC TOWER,INN,SAIR55 CPK411
Shouldn't this be classed as a vehicle fire....
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 19, 2009, 01:02:25 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 19/05/09 00:16,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,ANZAC HWY,GLENELG MAP 140 F 2 TG182,MOTOR BIKE IN CARPARK OF ATLANTIC TOWER,INN,SAIR55 CPK411
Shouldn't this be classed as a vehicle fire....
Depends on the quality of the motorbike :lol: :-D If it was mine I would say it is rubbish (broke down again on Friday....damn)
1928011 08:51:46 22-05-09 L,NACYS CHILDCARE OLDFORD ST,DAVOREN PARK MAP 51 M 5 TG182,CHILD WITH FINGER CAUGHT IN COVER FOR GA,S METER,ELZ339 NAD020 ELZ331
This requires 2 MFS and a SES appliance(s)?
1x Gas Fire Threat....ELZ331..how ever small it is ;)
1x MFS Rescue.....ELZ339.....To do the actual work.
1x SES.....NAD020...........well...i dont know why.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 22, 2009, 11:05:52 AM
1928011 08:51:46 22-05-09 L,NACYS CHILDCARE OLDFORD ST,DAVOREN PARK MAP 51 M 5 TG182,CHILD WITH FINGER CAUGHT IN COVER FOR GA,S METER,ELZ339 NAD020 ELZ331
This requires 2 MFS and a SES appliance(s)?
Standard response to a General Rescue, which the job fits the bill for.
One for fire cover, one for rescue and SES for specialist equipment.
Just give the equipment to the MFS
22/05/2009 7:41:08 PM EE.Group Need 2 cleve brigade people to help with Recue 1 fuel, have to get fuel from Cowell. Bevan can you come in CFS Cleve Response
22/05/2009 7:56:03 PM EE.Group members needed at the station now tyo assit with fuel for Recue ONE . report to Cowell captain CFS Cowell Response
more like:
EEGP: COWELL RESPOND ASSIST HELI-RESCUE 51, REFUELING DUTIES, RESPOND TO STATION PRIORITY 2.
that makes more sense.
doesn that say the same thing....im refering more to the wondr why it needs fuel must have been not a planned trip to cleve..
exactly, but dang, the way they worded it.... my Banjo sounds more important.
I think pretty much everytime a helo goes from adelaide to the eyre it needs a refuel....but im presuming they typically do it at the lincoln airport.
For many years there have been strategic fuel dumps setup for the helicopters in remote areas.In the event that refuelling is required the closest resource is paged to go to the one nominated by the pilots, ie Loxton SES for the helipad at the hospital :wink:
Quote from: boredmatrix on November 20, 2008, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.
hey fair call....we can't all be on HRT now can we??
as for demographic Vs personal attack? - my apologies cameron for wanting to belittle people into bettering themselves, even if it is in the form of proper grammar and context.
I do understand that not everyone can have the same level of country SA public school education that I did....those metro eastern suburbs members of this forum pay a lot more for their schooling...and still use çontexts such as "you's guys" or "should of" or "could of".
still I shouldn't be so harsh - not every professional volunteer could be expected to be able to read or write should they?! :evil: :evil: :evil:
Evidently, from your posts, PAID staff should be able to be equally illiterate.
17:14:20 01-06-09 Tuesday the 9th of June the new appliance will arrive. ALL crew please be at the station at 6pm. If we dont have maximum crew that night, the truck may not be delivered. Will speak more tonight. Capt CFS Port Elliot Info
Lol...interesting ploy to get people to rock up.
Quote from: Zippy on June 01, 2009, 05:54:49 PM
17:14:20 01-06-09 Tuesday the 9th of June the new appliance will arrive. ALL crew please be at the station at 6pm. If we dont have maximum crew that night, the truck may not be delivered. Will speak more tonight. Capt CFS Port Elliot Info
Lol...interesting ploy to get people to rock up.
What are they going to do? Park down the street and wait for the signal?
1909800 09:01:46 02-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 02/06/09 08:59,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,64 WEST ST,TORRENSVILLE MAP 117 F 7 TG182,GET THEIR QUICK JESSE PLACE,SAIR55 BPK451 CFS State Air Desk
Quote from: Hazmat206 on June 02, 2009, 10:51:46 AM
1909800 09:01:46 02-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 02/06/09 08:59,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,64 WEST ST,TORRENSVILLE MAP 117 F 7 TG182,GET THEIR QUICK JESSE PLACE,SAIR55 BPK451 CFS State Air Desk
BAAHAAAA. There, their or they're........ :roll: Not to mention :roll: at the actual message.
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 07/06/09 00:14,RESPOND To,1040 MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,000 CALLER REPORTS SMOKE GETTING HIM, PO,SSIBLY DRUNK,MPLT19
20 minutes later
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 07/06/09 00:34,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,1040 MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1040 SPRINGTON RD,SPRG00 BIRD19 WLLM19
Im taking one big assumption that Mt Pleasant rocked up to a fair going house fire...with a crew of 4, with about 1 BA operator? And responding on the belief that its a bon fire (rural response).
Quote from: Zippy on June 07, 2009, 07:56:47 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 07/06/09 00:14,RESPOND To,1040 MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,000 CALLER REPORTS SMOKE GETTING HIM, PO,SSIBLY DRUNK,MPLT19
20 minutes later
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 07/06/09 00:34,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,1040 MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1040 SPRINGTON RD,SPRG00 BIRD19 WLLM19
Im taking one big assumption that Mt Pleasant rocked up to a fair going house fire...with a crew of 4, with about 1 BA operator? And responding on the belief that its a bon fire (rural response).
Yes well with an initial page of "possibly drunk" trivialises the response message and it would certainly change the mindset of responding crews, very poor on behalf of AF. Whilst the call receiver might think that, they certainly have no proof, and are foolish to sow the seed in the mind of the initial responding crew. Hence what the actual job was.
Gongbeater, did you take the call ?
Maybe some of the dedicated members shouldn't pick and choose calls then !!
Quote from: Big Yellow Gongbeater on June 07, 2009, 03:20:05 PM
Yes well with an initial page of "possibly drunk" trivialises the response message and it would certainly change the mindset of responding crews, very poor on behalf of AF. Whilst the call receiver might think that, they certainly have no proof, and are foolish to sow the seed in the mind of the initial responding crew. Hence what the actual job was.
You mean to say if it hadn't had the "possibly drunk" comment, you would have taken the job seriously?
Also it could be good info saying that you may have a person still in the house.
Does it explain the response in regards to appliances turned out though?
Not to take a shot at anyone, as of course we don't know the circumstances behind the call...
But don't you love the way we get 1000 appliances to Alarms and nothing Rubbish fires, but some poor drunk bloke finds his house alight and he gets a half arsed single appliance/brigade response.
Good work all around gents!
Alerts was rung before disptaching, what more can you do.
Adelaide Fire has no power to override the vols.
Quote from: pumprescue on June 08, 2009, 12:35:29 AM
Alerts was rung before disptaching, what more can you do.
Adelaide Fire has no power to override the vols.
Some groups need to get their act together and insist on a minimum 2 brigade response to all domestic related incidents, this is becoming all to common an occurrence sending a single brigade to a domestic, and then its turned pear shaped.
I know of one job where the brigade that turned out, only had the driver of the appliance roll up to the call and responded, AND put the fire out :-o
Pretty poor when it says "domestic" on the page, and you get one person or appliance roll up :evil:
MFS: *CFSRES INC040 11/06/09 17:02,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CNR COMMERCIAL RD & TILLER DR,SEAFORD MAP 195 G 16 TG134,MULTIPLE MVA'S AT THIS LOCATION. ONE INV,OLVES PEDESTRIAN.,CDN439 SEAF00 CDN431 Anyone know whats happening
Umm muitiple Vehicle Accidents and one involving a pedestrian at Seaford :-o
Quote from: Chinny on June 11, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
Umm muitiple Vehicle Accidents and one involving a pedestrian at Seaford :-o
sounds big ey
nothing much, not very big at all!
we got there and left within 10 mins...
not even a clean up
Looked like it was outside the school but not much in it anyway.
1908967 20:10:22 13-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC051 13/06/09 20:09,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,49 ROUSILLION PROM,OLD REYNELLA MAP 176 Q 10 TG134,PROB BACK YARD BURN. BLOWER VAC IN USE!,FROM SAPOL,SAIR55 MRPH00 OHH421 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
now thats the way to get the fire started
rehouse fire at Mt pleasant
1 the person is known to all services for having been responsible for MFAs
2 the captain came past and there was nothing to be scene
3 yes it was a going structure and all brigades had at least 2 BA on board
:x
Quote from: Zippy on June 07, 2009, 07:56:47 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 07/06/09 00:14,RESPOND To,1040 MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,000 CALLER REPORTS SMOKE GETTING HIM, PO,SSIBLY DRUNK,MPLT19
20 minutes later
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 07/06/09 00:34,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,1040 MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1040 SPRINGTON RD,SPRG00 BIRD19 WLLM19
Im taking one big assumption that Mt Pleasant rocked up to a fair going house fire...with a crew of 4, with about 1 BA operator? And responding on the belief that its a bon fire (rural response).
Funny Story... This guy was actually drunk, i know the SAAS crew that responded,and they said they could smell the alcohol on him before they got out the truck.
Wow!
Does that mean there was a lot more to the story, than what was on the pager message...!!! :evil: Who'd have thought!! :evil:
Pip
1930428 11:58:29 15-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 15/06/09 11:58,RESPOND ALARM 13/014,STRATA CORPORATION 7176 INC,BEACON HOUSE,185 VICTORIA SQU,ADELAIDE MAP 3 P 9 TG182,FIP INSIDE MAIN VICTORIA SQ ENTRY LHS,SPKR VALVE S/W STAIRWELL,,ADL201 ADH303? MFS Stn 20
Who???
Quote from: calspec on June 15, 2009, 11:36:42 AM
1930428 11:58:29 15-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 15/06/09 11:58,RESPOND ALARM 13/014,STRATA CORPORATION 7176 INC,BEACON HOUSE,185 VICTORIA SQU,ADELAIDE MAP 3 P 9 TG182,FIP INSIDE MAIN VICTORIA SQ ENTRY LHS,SPKR VALVE S/W STAIRWELL,,ADL201 ADH303? MFS Stn 20
Who???
Corrupt message came up as this on mine
MFS: *CFSRES INC037 15/06/09 11:58,RESPOND ALARM 13/014,STRATA CORPORATION 7176 INC,BEACON HOUSE,185 VICTORIA SQU,ADELAIDE MAP 3 P 9 TG182,FIP INSIDE MAIN VICTORIA SQ ENTRY LHS,SPKR VALVE S/W STAIRWELL,,ADL201 ADL203
:-D
1930428 18:18:07 15-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC063 15/06/09 18:17,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,11 EAST TCE,MILE END MAP 117 N 8 TG182,PREMS OF SALMAT - WILL BE MET - SMALL F,IRE,ADL205 CAR041 BPK451 ADL203 ADL202 MFS Stn 20
1930429 13:09:39 17-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC028 17/06/09 13:09,RESPOND Assist SAAS,431 MAGILL RD,ST MORRIS MAP 119 N 5 TG182,FREVERA CLINIC MASSAGE TABLE ON TOP OF,YOUNG CHILD,ADL202 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
Unfortunately, the child involved was killed :-(
MFS: *CFSRES INC017 18/06/09 08:13,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TARNI ST,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 177 L 3 TG182,3 CAR MVA SPILL ONLY.,MRPH00 OHH421 CFS Morphett Vale Response
Closest resource eh :-o
15:33:15 21-06-09 MC81 CatB Int Beachport-penola Rd, Kangaroo Inn SAAS Road Crash Research
16:03:15 21-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 21/06/09 16:02,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PRINCES HWY,MILLICENT MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CNR BEACHPORT RD AND KANGAROO INN INTERS,ECTION - NO ENTRAPMENTS,ARGY00 THOR00 CFS Argyle Response
Thats not bad 30min delay......Hope the group follows up on that one.......
Quote from: SA Firey on June 18, 2009, 08:09:47 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC017 18/06/09 08:13,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TARNI ST,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 177 L 3 TG182,3 CAR MVA SPILL ONLY.,MRPH00 OHH421 CFS Morphett Vale Response
Closest resource eh :-o
They were stopped 3 minutes after.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on June 21, 2009, 04:14:22 PM
15:33:15 21-06-09 MC81 CatB Int Beachport-penola Rd, Kangaroo Inn SAAS Road Crash Research
16:03:15 21-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 21/06/09 16:02,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PRINCES HWY,MILLICENT MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CNR BEACHPORT RD AND KANGAROO INN INTERS,ECTION - NO ENTRAPMENTS,ARGY00 THOR00 CFS Argyle Response
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on June 21, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
Thats not bad 30min delay......Hope the group follows up on that one.......
I believe the group is following this up
14:20:35 24-06-09 Interested in X-Lotto Syn $5 per unit for next Tuesday night contact Rick with strict payment in full by Friday lunchtime. 24/06/2009 2:19:16 PM CFS Tanunda Info
Hmmmm ...i got my $20 from the $50mil draw....aim for $40 next week ey?
Quote from: firegun on June 22, 2009, 05:12:25 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on June 21, 2009, 04:14:22 PM
15:33:15 21-06-09 MC81 CatB Int Beachport-penola Rd, Kangaroo Inn SAAS Road Crash Research
16:03:15 21-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 21/06/09 16:02,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PRINCES HWY,MILLICENT MAP 0 0 0 TG231,CNR BEACHPORT RD AND KANGAROO INN INTERS,ECTION - NO ENTRAPMENTS,ARGY00 THOR00 CFS Argyle Response
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on June 21, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
Thats not bad 30min delay......Hope the group follows up on that one.......
I believe the group is following this up
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I heard Wattle Range Group Officer on the Radio Today Re this exact point..Its not going to be the last we hear of this.
I heard that Kempy was on the front page of the local rag giving MFS a serve again...then again he has a point with the lack of rescue truck on pagers lately, but the delays in responses have nothing to do with the MFS.
Been covered in quite a few of the media outlets!
01:28:29 29-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC003 29/06/09 01:27,RESPOND Assist SAAS,TAILEM BEND ,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,LANDING SITE REQUIRED AT TAILEM BEND OVAL. MONITOR TG 020. ETA 0150,TLEM19 CFS Tailem Bend Response
01:50:54 29-06-09 MFS: CONVERSE WITH RESCUE HELICOPTER IMMEDIATELY ON GRN 020 WAITING TO LAND AND NO LIGHTS ON OVAL CFS Tailem Bend Response
It cant hover forever boys :-o
Quote from: SA Firey on June 29, 2009, 08:52:21 AM
01:28:29 29-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC003 29/06/09 01:27,RESPOND Assist SAAS,TAILEM BEND ,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,LANDING SITE REQUIRED AT TAILEM BEND OVAL. MONITOR TG 020. ETA 0150,TLEM19 CFS Tailem Bend Response
01:50:54 29-06-09 MFS: CONVERSE WITH RESCUE HELICOPTER IMMEDIATELY ON GRN 020 WAITING TO LAND AND NO LIGHTS ON OVAL CFS Tailem Bend Response
It cant hover forever boys :-o
Shoulda just landed on the CFS Station's Apron to check if they had any crew...
1930429 13:14:41 30-06-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC180 30/06/09 13:13,RESPOND ALARM 10/015,SA POLICE DEPT,CRIME SUPPORT,60 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 B 10 TG182,FIP FRONT FOYER MAIN ENTRANCE,,AD2015 ADL204 GAW359 ADL202 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
Must be getting desperate!
But i guess it is to help assist with storm damage as it is a rescue pumper?(not the only call in Adelaide area they were called to) :wink:
that'd be cos they were CoQ to station 20 at the time. As you may know, MFS appliances were all over the place (funny how some people seem to assume they are always responding from their station).
They were in town training, we told them to go back on the run.
1800172 01:02:54 04-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC005 04/07/09 01:02,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,O/S 592 MORPHETT RD,SEACOMBE GARDENS MAP 153 A 3 TG182,4WD V'S MOTORBIKE,OHH421 MFS O'Halloran Hill 421
1800183 00:54:09 04-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 04/07/09 00:53,RESPOND ALARM 11/040,OCTAGON STUDENT APARTMENTS,88 HINDLEY STREET,ADELAIDE MAP 3 Q 4 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY VICTORIA,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 MFS Adelaide 203
1800184 00:54:05 04-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 04/07/09 00:53,RESPOND ALARM 11/040,OCTAGON STUDENT APARTMENTS,88 HINDLEY STREET,ADELAIDE MAP 3 Q 4 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY VICTORIA,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 MFS Adelaide 204
1800181 00:54:01 04-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 04/07/09 00:53,RESPOND ALARM 11/040,OCTAGON STUDENT APARTMENTS,88 HINDLEY STREET,ADELAIDE MAP 3 Q 4 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY VICTORIA,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 MFS Adelaide 201
1800185 00:53:58 04-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 04/07/09 00:53,RESPOND ALARM 11/040,OCTAGON STUDENT APARTMENTS,88 HINDLEY STREET,ADELAIDE MAP 3 Q 4 TG182,FIP MAIN ENTRY VICTORIA,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203 MFS Adelaide 205
yerp....seems like the TIMS train is rolling through now.
Just imagine if the same were done for CFS.....would be crazy to manage...
17:01:48 04-07-09 FLEX-A ALPHA 1600 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 04/07/09 17:01,RESPOND Vehicle Fire LPG,O/S BAKERY, MAIN ST,PORT WAKEFIELD MAP 0 0 0 TG104,LPG TANKER ALIGHT OUTSIDE BAKERY,PTWK19 BALA00 - CFS Port Wakefield
Could be interesting.
1919207 20:17:24 04-07-09 MFS: STIRLING NORTH ***MORE HAZMAT CREW REQUIRED*** FOR HAZMAT INCIDENT AT PETERBOROUGH CFS Stirling North Response
1924781 19:58:45 04-07-09 INC: FYI: CFS ATTENDING HAZMAT / RAIL INCIDENT, 30KM EAST OF PETERBOROUGH, UNKNOWN CHEMICALS THIS STAGE - DSC WATTS 04/07/2009 7:58:30 PM CFS R6 HQ Response
1919171 18:01:48 04-07-09 ident,HILLGRANGE SIDING, 30KM EAST PETERBOROUGH DISTR CFS,PETERBOROUGH DIS MAP 0 0 0 TG064,TRAIN WITH LEAKING CONTAINER,PBGH00 JAME28 CFS Bundaleer Group Officers Response
Wonder if they'll send 206, Looks like they could do with it, and it has been to peterborough before.
more than likely would send Dalkeith Hazmat and Burnside "State" Hazmat...if they upgraded...
being CFS area [outside of Peterborough township] would be unlikely to go...
As Zippy stated, CFS State HAZMAT would be a more likely candidate to attend.
FSRES INC024 07/07/09 08:52,RESPOND ALARM 40/034,REPATRIATION HOSPITAL,REHAB BLDG,DAWS RD,DAW PARK MAP 141 P 9 TG182,FIP FCR REHAB BLDG N/W CNR OF HOSPITAL,,ADL202 CPK411 MFS Camden Park 411
1800183 08:42:22 07-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC023 07/07/09 08:41,RESPOND ALARM 14/086,ROYAL ADELAIDE HOSPITAL,AREA FIP - BOILER HOUSE,NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 4 G 2 TG182,FIP EAST WING,,AD2015 ADL201 ADL203 MFS Adelaide 203
1800177 08:40:54 07-07-09 MFS: RE INC #21, SPECIAL MESSAGE ONLY ONE APPLIANCE PERMITTED AT TOP OF RAMP OUTSIDE EMERGENCY. MFS St Marys 401
1800177 08:38:37 07-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 07/07/09 08:37,RESPOND ALARM 40/111,FLINDERS MEDICAL CENTRE,FLINDERS DR,BEDFORD PARK MAP 153 K 5 TG182,FIP WARDS NORTH - EMERG DEPT RAMP,,ADL205 STM409 OHH421 STM401 MFS St Marys 401
Must be a Fire Service visit the hospitals kinda morning! :-)
Quote from: jaff on July 07, 2009, 08:51:53 AM
1800177 08:40:54 07-07-09 MFS: RE INC #21, SPECIAL MESSAGE ONLY ONE APPLIANCE PERMITTED AT TOP OF RAMP OUTSIDE EMERGENCY. MFS St Marys 401
Just out of interest, is this a weight or space problem??
access issue probably, wouldnt want to block access to arriving ambulances...Then again the weight issue would be related to the 50+ Tonne Load of a First Alarm Response.
Quote from: Mike on July 07, 2009, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: jaff on July 07, 2009, 08:51:53 AM
1800177 08:40:54 07-07-09 MFS: RE INC #21, SPECIAL MESSAGE ONLY ONE APPLIANCE PERMITTED AT TOP OF RAMP OUTSIDE EMERGENCY. MFS St Marys 401
Just out of interest, is this a weight or space problem??
No its definately the Fireman/Nurse ratio issue :-o bowchickabowbow
Quote from: Zippy on July 07, 2009, 11:23:10 AM
access issue probably, wouldnt want to block access to arriving ambulances...Then again the weight issue would be related to the 50+ Tonne Load of a First Alarm Response.
I dont know for sure, probly one of our SAAS guys could answer.
But wouldn't the hospital divert all incoming ambulances if they had a coder red [fire alarm activation]?
10:06:37 10-07-09 GOOD MORNING ALL. PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN ENTERING STATION TODAY, AS WORK IS IN PROGRESS INSTALLING KITCHEN. THANKS - PETER CFS Hermitage
NO WONDER THERES NO MONEY KICKIN AROUND... :wink:
I was in this station last month,the brigade is getting a kitchen,toilets,radio room and from what i did see they are in need of it.not sure who is paying for it but at a guess some of the work is being done by members and some of the items have been donated to the brigade.
They better be supplying the next Catering for the "Next Big Fire"..otherwise..why a kitchen...lol.
Bring on the Station Fitness Rooms
Quote from: Zippy on July 10, 2009, 12:33:25 PM
They better be supplying the next Catering for the "Next Big Fire"..otherwise..why a kitchen...lol.
All kitchens should be removed from stations and replaced with industrial shelving and then stacked to the brim with cases of.....................spam! (pity there isn't a vomity face)
ahahahaha, good one ;)
1800161 10:12:07 10-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC023 10/07/09 10:11,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,FLINDERS DR,BEDFORD PARK MAP 153 K 5 TG182,D BLOCK UNK SPILL,,SECOND ALARM, EXERCISE ONLY,TG 158,CPK411
:?
Passed 206 at the Arkaba around 3pm...soo it went for about 5 hours that excersize...
Saw the whole crew there in what would have to be the tightest carpark at Flinders for appliances at D Block....one way in and out
2090 was kept at St Marys station.
Sounds like there haveing fun on Ki bye the sounds of some pager messages.
MFS: *CFSRES INC052 11/07/09 10:35,RESPOND STORM DAMAGE,PARNDANA ,PARNDANA KI MAP 087 F 3,BURST DAM ASSIST CFS AND CONTACT PARNDAN,A CFS,KIS029
Wd need wd24 to respond to ........... to assist evacuation prior to flood water impact broken dam
R1HQ: Crew required at region for incident on KI please advise duty officer on 8398 5545 with availability thanks simon 11/07/2009 12:02:30 PM
ALL SWIFT WATER MEMBERS AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE DEPLOYMENT TO KI REPORT TO UNIT, REGARDS JENNIFER
and now another flood impact incident
12:35:21 12-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 12/07/09 12:33,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,PARAWA ,PARAWA MAP 0 0 0 TG144,INGALALLA WATERFALL SECOND VALLEY FOREST,APPROX 5 PEOPLE TRAPED BY FLOOD WATERS,,HAYF00 YAN020 PRWA00 SES Yankalilla Response
Flood Watch warning from BoM still active for Mt Lofty ranges and Mid North until Wednesday. The new team is busy this weekend.
Next Stop Lofty group, just to see Stirling struting there swift water stuff ;)
16:57:22 12-07-09 ALL EIGHT DRIVERS PAST & COMPETANT TO DRIVE LYNDOCH 34P. THANK-YOU FOR YOUR TIME & EFFORT. NEVILLE 0417245128.12/07/2009 16:56:17 PM CFS Lyndoch Info ???????
There is a training package for each brigade that recieves a new appliance, and needs to completed by all drivers...
bahhahahaha fair enuff.....
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on July 12, 2009, 05:23:10 PM
bahhahahaha fair enuff.....
You would be surprised by some of the comments following it...some of the drivers get real shocked after comparing there current skills and the "upskill" given by the instructors from TDT. (??) As in its very beneficial.
You can tell anyone that hasnt done the training, will have a higher level of gear crunching... ;)
yea maybe for the drivers that the only truck they drive is the fire truck im sure some brigades full of farmers wuld get a very different response lol...anywho them the rules i guess :wink:
especially relevent for them :lol:
It was actually farmers that got shocked...no more double clutching for them now...Because the non-farmers got there licenses and training in the last 10-15 years indtead of 15+ years ago...
Its just like the fact of car drivers today. 20 year old drivers have more up to date driving skills than 50 year old drivers.
Quote from: Zippy on July 13, 2009, 11:21:57 AM
It was actually farmers that got shocked...no more double clutching for them now...Because the non-farmers got there licenses and training in the last 10-15 years indtead of 15+ years ago...
Its just like the fact of car drivers today. 20 year old drivers have more up to date driving skills than 50 year old drivers.
lol yea im sure everyone will just stop changing gears using a double clutch hahaha
1909221 15:47:09 13-07-09 CFSR5: SOUTH AUSTRALIAN COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH (SACAD) INFORMATION SESSION WILL BE HELD THIS THURSDAY (16/07/2009) 1930 HRS AT THE MT GAMBIER EMERGENCY SERVICES FACILITY. QUESTIONS TO REX HALL
Hmmm sounds like an interesting info session :-)
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on July 13, 2009, 03:33:00 PM
1909221 15:47:09 13-07-09 CFSR5: SOUTH AUSTRALIAN COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH (SACAD) INFORMATION SESSION WILL BE HELD THIS THURSDAY (16/07/2009) 1930 HRS AT THE MT GAMBIER EMERGENCY SERVICES FACILITY. QUESTIONS TO REX HALL
Hmmm sounds like an interesting info session :-)
Sounds Evangelical...
sounds like the fairy tale pantomime circuit has made landfall in the south east.
Bet Rex take questions but doesnt have too many answers
There are two meetings here in the SE one at region 5 H/Q on Wednesday night for the group officers ONLY and then the one in the Mount on Thursday...So if SE people want to know all about SACAD they better show up or shut up as was put to a number of people over the weekend.The meeting is open to,CFS/SES/MFS, I did ask one question on Sunday and that was about having ONE only COMM'S Centre in Adealide should we not have two??? I got no reply......
I am sure it will be a fun filled meeting as we know how the boys and girls in the MOUNT feel about SACAD.......Sorry I cant attend....
Well i have attended the roadshow twice now and found it very good and think that SACAD will be absolutely brilliant for the state. What i am worried about is Certain opinions in the CFS that can;t adapt to this change because they like the current way of doing things.
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on July 14, 2009, 07:25:46 AM
There are two meetings here in the SE one at region 5 H/Q on Wednesday night for the group officers ONLY and then the one in the Mount on Thursday...So if SE people want to know all about SACAD they better show up or shut up as was put to a number of people over the weekend.The meeting is open to,CFS/SES/MFS, I did ask one question on Sunday and that was about having ONE only COMM'S Centre in Adealide should we not have two??? I got no reply......
I am sure it will be a fun filled meeting as we know how the boys and girls in the MOUNT feel about SACAD.......Sorry I cant attend....
Centralization is the way its going to be, and i hope to dear God they eventually absorb the Level 1 Incident Management comm's, just like Victoria..., Mobile, Arrival Sitrep & Inital setup of Incident Command, Upgrade, Wordback, Stop, Available, Back in Station !
Altho i got a feeling we might be getting niffty Data Terminals to do the "Mobile, Arrived, Available, In Station" for us...thinking back to a time when i heard data streaming on GRN 113 ;)
I bet thats 5 years away or more....
@@ALERT S090730758 RESC RESCUE PERSONS FRANK 03######## / HASSETT CR KEILOR EAST /BORDER DR //BORDER DR M 15 D12 2YO FEMALE HEAD STUCK IN STAIRCASE - DO NOTIFICATION - ESSENDON UNIT HAVE FAILED TO RESPOND OR ACKNOWLEDGE EVENT WITHIN 4 MIN [CTDO]
09:46:48 18-07-09 FYI GREENHILL WATER IS OFF, NOT THAT GREENHILL WATER BOTHERED TO TELL US CFS Greenhill Info
17:55:33 18-07-09 MFS: TRUCK NOW OPERATIONAL- RESTOWED- KEEP REVS ABOVE 1500 RPM AT ALL TIMES CFS Iron Knob Response
hhmmm looks like they didn have the RPM above 1000 at the RCR last night (thought that was common knowledge)
fair suck.....2 jobs a year...
Quote from: boredmatrix on July 18, 2009, 09:44:56 PM
fair suck.....2 jobs a year...
Hate tell you they did more than 2 jobs a year! last year according to the promotion unit website they did in 26 (2007/08), 16 (2006/07), 18 (2005/06) and from some inside information in that neck of the woods they are sitting on 22 for the last year.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on July 18, 2009, 06:35:52 PM
17:55:33 18-07-09 MFS: TRUCK NOW OPERATIONAL- RESTOWED- KEEP REVS ABOVE 1500 RPM AT ALL TIMES CFS Iron Knob Response
hhmmm looks like they didn have the RPM above 1000 at the RCR last night (thought that was common knowledge)
They have only recently got their truck back after nearly killing it it had done on it
fridge mounted on it
new stand pipe brackets
new steps for everywhere on the truck
more reinforcing for the bull bar
new brackets for extinguishers, and fire lighter
two new locker doors from breaking the previous two
having the truck completely rewired
tank volume depth gauge after breaking the last one
a couple of new tyres
I remember on one of the last region 4 composite strike teams one of the strike teams leaders saying from that region that were ever he goes Iron Knob is sure to follow
Quote from: malleefire on July 19, 2009, 02:05:26 PM
Quote from: boredmatrix on July 18, 2009, 09:44:56 PM
fair suck.....2 jobs a year...
Hate tell you they did more than 2 jobs a year! last year according to the promotion unit website they did in 26 (2007/08), 16 (2006/07), 18 (2005/06) and from some inside information in that neck of the woods they are sitting on 22 for the last year.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on July 18, 2009, 06:35:52 PM
17:55:33 18-07-09 MFS: TRUCK NOW OPERATIONAL- RESTOWED- KEEP REVS ABOVE 1500 RPM AT ALL TIMES CFS Iron Knob Response
hhmmm looks like they didn have the RPM above 1000 at the RCR last night (thought that was common knowledge)
They have only recently got their truck back after nearly killing it it had done on it
fridge mounted on it
new stand pipe brackets
new steps for everywhere on the truck
more reinforcing for the bull bar
new brackets for extinguishers, and fire lighter
two new locker doors from breaking the previous two
having the truck completely rewired
tank volume depth gauge after breaking the last one
a couple of new tyres
I remember on one of the last region 4 composite strike teams one of the strike teams leaders saying from that region that were ever he goes Iron Knob is sure to follow
Ya seem to know fair bit bout Iron Knob??
Isn't that ALL there is to know about Iron Knob?? :-D
I hope that like any of us we all know what is happening in our and neighbouring Brigades - This is by no means an indication of if I am a member of the said Brigade.
Well Alan like most Brigades the information that come to us about our neighbouring Brigades / Groups and Units can be a bit on the delayed side of things and then we only hear the sanitized versions who knows what else is not known about Iron Knob that could of interest to us. :-)
i guess the question shuld be why did all this stuff have to be done to their truck :roll:
03:38:45 27-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 27/07/09 03:38,RESPOND Assist Resident,WIRRA DR,NEW PORT MAP 91 M 9 TG182,PERSON HAS LOCKED HIMSELF OUT AND LEFT G,AS ON. CORNER TINY COURT.,PAD251 MFS Port Adelaide 251
Just sleep dammit, whats with people cooking at 3.30am
Quote from: Zippy on July 27, 2009, 07:45:21 AM
03:38:45 27-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 27/07/09 03:38,RESPOND Assist Resident,WIRRA DR,NEW PORT MAP 91 M 9 TG182,PERSON HAS LOCKED HIMSELF OUT AND LEFT G,AS ON. CORNER TINY COURT.,PAD251 MFS Port Adelaide 251
Just sleep dammit, whats with people cooking at 3.30am
Shift work... :wink:
Quote from: Hazmat206 on July 27, 2009, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: Zippy on July 27, 2009, 07:45:21 AM
03:38:45 27-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 27/07/09 03:38,RESPOND Assist Resident,WIRRA DR,NEW PORT MAP 91 M 9 TG182,PERSON HAS LOCKED HIMSELF OUT AND LEFT G,AS ON. CORNER TINY COURT.,PAD251 MFS Port Adelaide 251
Just sleep dammit, whats with people cooking at 3.30am
Shift work... :wink:
hence...sleep...;)
1908036 16:18:26 27-07-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 27/07/09 16:17,RESPOND Tree Down,BROADBENT RD,MACCLESFIELD MAP 000 0 0,LARGE DEAD TREE BLOCKING RD 1/2 0408 63,9 322 DEFAULT FOR ADELAIDE HILLS,MIT020 SES Metro South Response
Okay surely there is a closer SES default to this job ie Strath or short of that the 20 other CFS brigades which are closer :|
these sort of things are reported constantly (certainly within CFS to Adelaide Fire), closest most appropriate 'resource' not being responded. Yet it is apparent nothing will be done until inevitably there is a fatality and the coroner investigates, at which point the service chiefs will be forced to pull their fingers out and act (and will hopefully be held accountable for not acting sooner).
There should be a fire truck on this as well, but depends, is Broadbent rd a main road or not, the rules provided by SES are that its a P1 with a fire truck if its blocking a main rd, anything else is SES on their own, and from experience Mt Barker SES default 9 out of 10 calls. I don't agree with it, but have to work to the rules provided.
Just make Tree Downs a Police Co-ordinated Job..and Fire/SES as Combatants...
too much time wasting and crap all the time with how its being run at present...
Ashton/Basket Range/Cherryville is just another one of those spots where its sooo pointless to respond ses to a tree down...when Fire already has the equipment and the know how.
1800182 15:00:35 28-07-09 MFS: TO COVER APPLIANCE BREAKDOWN... MFS Adelaide 202
1800182 15:00:00 28-07-09 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 30 MFS Adelaide 202
What are the chances it's the skyjet... :roll:
Quote from: Zippy on July 28, 2009, 04:00:40 PM
Just make Tree Downs a Police Co-ordinated Job..and Fire/SES as Combatants...
too much time wasting and crap all the time with how its being run at present...
Ashton/Basket Range/Cherryville is just another one of those spots where its sooo pointless to respond ses to a tree down...when Fire already has the equipment and the know how.
Ohhh, just be patient...CRD system will change sometime to better auto handle resources for defaults....but I doubt if SAPOL would like the extra co-ordinating work....
1919450 10:54:49 03-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM CLEVE 34P - ANYONE KNOWING APPLIANCE WHERE ABOUTS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. CFS Eastern Eyre Group
Quote from: Hazmat206 on August 03, 2009, 10:36:09 PM
1919450 10:54:49 03-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM CLEVE 34P - ANYONE KNOWING APPLIANCE WHERE ABOUTS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. CFS Eastern Eyre Group
SAMFS Engineering ;)
1908950 15:31:01 12-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 12/08/09 15:30,RESPOND RCR,VICTOR HARBOR RD,WILLUNGA MAP 216 N 9 TG132,5KM SOUTH OF MCLAREN VALE TURNOFF APPROX,MALPAS RD 2 CAR MVA POSSIBLE 3 TRAP,ALDB19 WLLG00
1908895 15:50:14 12-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 12/08/09 15:49,RESPOND RCR,VICTOR HARBOR RD,WILLUNGA MAP 216 N 9 TG132,2ND ALARM RESCUE. ASSIST ALDINGA. NEAR M,ALPASS RD. TG 132,MCMP19
Well thats a pretty filtered poor effort to take that long to call for the 2nd rescue, especially given the info on the initial response page
It was interesting listening to this job, the first SAAS supervisor arrived on scene fairly quickly, his initial sitrep included the fact that there were 4 patients and 3 trapped in two seperate vehicles. He asked SAAS Comm's to notify firies that two Rescue trucks were needed due to entrapments in two cars.
It seems that this was never actioned somewhere along the line though, as it wasn't until the Kyeema DGO contacted Adelaide Fire on 124 to request the second rescue truck that anyone else was responded. Sloppy work by someone somewhere.
MFS: 439 WANT TO KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WANT A PIZZA ORDERED?
MFS Appliance 431
or another 'pffft...what do they know about RCR?- ambo's overeacting again' mindset?
However...i would be more inclined to look first at SAAS comms not passing it on...i don't know why- just a cynical hunch maybe??
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on August 12, 2009, 03:35:06 PM
1908950 15:31:01 12-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 12/08/09 15:30,RESPOND RCR,VICTOR HARBOR RD,WILLUNGA MAP 216 N 9 TG132,5KM SOUTH OF MCLAREN VALE TURNOFF APPROX,MALPAS RD 2 CAR MVA POSSIBLE 3 TRAP,ALDB19 WLLG00
1908895 15:50:14 12-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 12/08/09 15:49,RESPOND RCR,VICTOR HARBOR RD,WILLUNGA MAP 216 N 9 TG132,2ND ALARM RESCUE. ASSIST ALDINGA. NEAR M,ALPASS RD. TG 132,MCMP19
Well thats a pretty filtered poor effort to take that long to call for the 2nd rescue, especially given the info on the initial response page
all of the trapped occupants are ok, the airlifted paitent happened to be a family friend :-o
Quote from: mattb on August 12, 2009, 07:33:17 PM
It was interesting listening to this job, the first SAAS supervisor arrived on scene fairly quickly, his initial sitrep included the fact that there were 4 patients and 3 trapped in two seperate vehicles. He asked SAAS Comm's to notify firies that two Rescue trucks were needed due to entrapments in two cars.
It seems that this was never actioned somewhere along the line though, as it wasn't until the Kyeema DGO contacted Adelaide Fire on 124 to request the second rescue truck that anyone else was responded. Sloppy work by someone somewhere.
The ACTL was James Gardiner(Belair CFS)on scene,and there were also 2 rescue helicopters dispatched to this job.Kyeema GO requested 439 twice to Adelaide Fire and was informed they were on another call(with Morphett Vale.Adelaide Fire suggested they could respond 409, but asked Kyeema GO who would be the next closest CFS rescue, and Mt Compass was nominated. It was'nt until the second time that 439 was asked for was responded after Adelaide Fire responded Mt Compass in the interim.
Appliances on scene
Alding Beach 24P
Aldinga Beach 24
Christie Downs 439
Mt Compass 24P
Willunga 24P
Mundoo Car 2
Kyeema Car 2
Rescue 52
Rescue 54
If a truck isn't around, it isn't around, looking back, there were several jobs at the same time.
Just curious, how long would that trip of been for 439?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on August 13, 2009, 12:01:32 PM
Just curious, how long would that trip of been for 439?
Took them about 10 mins to arrive, the accident was just past Tatachilla Rd bridge :wink:
12:02:18 13-08-09 MFS: HI GEOFF, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BOOSTER TEST ON AT 1315. THAT WILL SEE 6 TRUCKS OUT OF THE SYSTEM, WE WILL NEED AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS BACK BY THEN. MJ.
MFS Car 40
Just wondering is it the equipment or experience that required a MFS so badly, what is wrong with the next CFS rescue?
Who wouldnt take a 10min on scene time over a 20min on scene time...
Quote from: Zippy on August 13, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
12:02:18 13-08-09 MFS: HI GEOFF, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BOOSTER TEST ON AT 1315. THAT WILL SEE 6 TRUCKS OUT OF THE SYSTEM, WE WILL NEED AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS BACK BY THEN. MJ.
MFS Car 40
Why don't they just use some of the 34P's they have at angle park to test the boosters?
..oh wait
Quote from: CFS_Firey on August 13, 2009, 01:44:24 PM
Quote from: Zippy on August 13, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
12:02:18 13-08-09 MFS: HI GEOFF, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BOOSTER TEST ON AT 1315. THAT WILL SEE 6 TRUCKS OUT OF THE SYSTEM, WE WILL NEED AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS BACK BY THEN. MJ.
MFS Car 40
Why don't they just use some of the 34P's they have at angle park to test the boosters?
..oh wait
I thought the same thing! :roll:
Quote from: big bronto on August 13, 2009, 12:51:13 PM
Just wondering is it the equipment or experience that required a MFS so badly, what is wrong with the next CFS rescue?
MFS is the second rescue for that area, and Mt Compass took a long time to go mobile to this job, thats probably why they asked numerous times for 439
Well give it another 6 months and their will be a another 9 there
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on August 13, 2009, 03:29:53 PM
Quote from: big bronto on August 13, 2009, 12:51:13 PM
Just wondering is it the equipment or experience that required a MFS so badly, what is wrong with the next CFS rescue?
MFS is the second rescue for that area, and Mt Compass took a long time to go mobile to this job, thats probably why they asked numerous times for 439
Second rescue to that area is Mt Compass, MFS don't figure into it, althouth they may be closer....
Agree with Darrens comments anyway.
Hmmm thought MFS were 2nd for Mclaren Vale which it was just outside of, but semmantics anyway.
Meadows 2nd RCR for MacVale apparently...
pile of rubbish dispatch data...
fair enough then. Learn something new everyday :-)
MFS: *CFSRES INC050 14/08/09 17:11,RESPOND Assist Resident,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 16 TG182,S. E. CRN OF STH TCE IN VICTORIA PARK,MODEL PLANE STUCK IN TREE OWNER ON SITE,PRIORITY 2,AD2015 MFS Station 20 Response
hahaha, wonder if 2015 can go to a eastern suburbs school to retrive one of my bosses planes...
ANGUSTON 34 HAS RETURNED TO STATION AFTER BURN OFF IN EDEN VALLEY ROAD ANGUSTON FROM LT1 CFS Hindmarsh Valley Response :? :? :? :?
1908904 18:44:04 15-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC059 15/08/09 18:43,RESPOND Rescue Animal,BATTUNGA RD,MEADOWS MAP 202 F 11 TG128,COW REFUSING TO MOOOOOOVE NEAR THE TWO,MILE BEND, CALL FROM MEMBER,MDWS19
CFS Heysen Group Officers response
nice work from comms :lol:
10:24:06 21-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC031 21/08/09 10:23,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,HAHN RD,ALDINGA MAP 227 P 1 TG132,PETROL TANKER SPILT 2000 LTRS OF PETROL,ALDB19
CFS Aldinga response
Got Plenty of Absorbant/Foam? ;)
1800162 14:19:43 21-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC044 21/08/09 14:19,RESPOND RCR,CNR DAVID WITTON DR & GOLDSMITH DR,NOARLUNGA CENTRE MAP 185 N 12 TG182,CEMENT TRUCK V CAR BELIEVED ENTRAPMENT,CDN439 CDN431 ADL204 AD2047 MFS Christie Downs 431
1908871 11:31:19 21-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC035 21/08/09 11:30,RESPOND RCR,LOWER NORTH EAST RD,HIGHBURY MAP 96 K 11 TG182,CNR VALLEY RD RD OUTSIDE TURRAMURRA REC,CENTRE,ATHL19 PDS221 ADL204 AD2017 SAL329 CFS Athelstone Response
1930428 11:35:19 21-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC035 21/08/09 11:34,RESPOND RCR,LOWER NORTH EAST RD,HIGHBURY MAP 96 K 11 TG182,HEAVEY DUTY RESCUE CNR VALLEY RD OUTSIF=,DE TURRAMURRA,AD2047
Just curious as to the 204, 2047 response for the noarlunga job and the 2047 response for the Highury job.
Rescue support for any rail or road crash involving a heavy vehicle is automatic if theres a reported entrapment. 204 [support tender] with 2047 [loaded with the Heavy Rescue pod].
Ah cheers Alex, has this just been instigated or just a fluke 2 jobs in one day??
A Third will happen. The "3 Similar events in a short space of time theory" ;)
That's the response for a first alarm rail or heavy rescue [vehicle over 5 tonne], for a confirmed incident [arrival with person trapped] then the DO would be away as well...
Re; 2 of these responses in one day, just someone following the book.
Quote from: Zippy on August 21, 2009, 04:06:49 PM
A Third will happen. The "3 Similar events in a short space of time theory" ;)
Zippy's got crystal baaaallllls, Zippy's got crystal baaaallllls! :-D
Only thanks to a Hazmat back in 69...;) lol i wish..
18:09:50 22-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC050 22/08/09 18:08,RESPOND RCR,EYRE HWY,CEDUNA MAP 0 0 0 TG009,APP 40KMS FROM CEDUNA HEADING TO PORT AU,GUSTA SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER,PERSON TRAPPED,CED020 CEDU19 CFS Ceduna Response
18:32:32 22-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 22/08/09 18:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,RAILWAY TCE , THEVENARD ,THEVENARD MAP 0 0 0 TG009,,CEDU19 CFS Ceduna Response
18:38:26 22-08-09 MFS: RE INC #053- MULTIPLE CALLS BEING RECIVED FOR HOUSE WELL INVOLVED. CFS Ceduna Response
Busy Timez for the blokes and Gals over at Ceduna ey....seems rather busy over the last month...
Quote from: SA Firey on August 14, 2009, 05:17:41 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC050 14/08/09 17:11,RESPOND Assist Resident,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 16 TG182,S. E. CRN OF STH TCE IN VICTORIA PARK,MODEL PLANE STUCK IN TREE OWNER ON SITE,PRIORITY 2,AD2015 MFS Station 20 Response
People who call in s**t like this to any of the services need to be kicked in the crotch.
Quote from: whitecloud on August 24, 2009, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on August 14, 2009, 05:17:41 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC050 14/08/09 17:11,RESPOND Assist Resident,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 16 TG182,S. E. CRN OF STH TCE IN VICTORIA PARK,MODEL PLANE STUCK IN TREE OWNER ON SITE,PRIORITY 2,AD2015 MFS Station 20 Response
People who call in s**t like this to any of the services need to be kicked in the crotch.
Especially considering it was the second bronto appliance attending as the other one was in gawler :|
Quote from: whitecloud on August 24, 2009, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on August 14, 2009, 05:17:41 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC050 14/08/09 17:11,RESPOND Assist Resident,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 16 TG182,S. E. CRN OF STH TCE IN VICTORIA PARK,MODEL PLANE STUCK IN TREE OWNER ON SITE,PRIORITY 2,AD2015 MFS Station 20 Response
People who call in s**t like this to any of the services need to be kicked in the crotch.
Or perhaps the comms person who dispatched the call...?
Is it really so bad that a fire service can assist members of the public with what is a relatively simple task for the service, but difficult for the caller..?
Quote from: Pipster on August 25, 2009, 10:33:10 AM
Is it really so bad that a fire service can assist members of the public with what is a relatively simple task for the service, but difficult for the caller..?
I agree with Pip. Since the SES took over cat up tree jobs, doesn't the fire service need to take any PR jobs it can?
Quote from: CFS_Firey on August 25, 2009, 11:25:57 AM
I agree with Pip. Since the SES took over cat up tree jobs, doesn't the fire service need to take any PR jobs it can?
that may be - but how much longer does it take the SES without a high pressure line? plus - no working at heights and no risk of being scratched.....much safer way of doing it!
CFS_Firey, the red trucks still run around chasing cats up trees etc in there area, and they can have it as far as im concerned. Surely most people feel the same.
Anyway, re; the aerial going to that. Why worry, at the end of the day, the boys went out there normal driving conditions, were available to be diverted should the need arise, and got a chance to do a bit of training and PR. Good stuff all round really.
1800163 19:42:32 25-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC153 25/08/09 19:41,RESPOND RCR,LONSDALE RD,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 H 16 TG182,SOUTH OF PERRY BAR RD - 4 VEHICLES - 1 O,N FIRE,CDN439 OHH421 MFS Christie Downs 439
A "MALICIOUS" prankster called emergency crews tonight claiming four cars had collided in Adelaide's south and one had burst into flames.
Police, fire and ambulance crews were dispatched to Lonsdale Rd, Hallett Cove about 7.40pm but were unable to locate the wreck.
An MFS spokeswoman said crews returned later and the call was registered as a "malicious false alarm".
1800172 20:47:58 28-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 28/08/09 20:47,RESPOND Smoke in Area,480 BRIGHTON RD,BRIGHTON MAP 152 J 1 TG182,,SAIR55 OHH421 MFS O'Halloran Hill 421
1800172 20:49:45 28-08-09 MFS: FROM SAPOL DRUNK KIDS LIGHTING SPARKLERS AT BP SERVICE STATION COPS ENROUTE MFS O'Halloran Hill 421
1800172 21:29:05 28-08-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC059 28/08/09 21:28,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,BP SERVICE STATION 131 SOUTH RD,O'HALLORAN HILL MAP 165 D 14 TG182,DIESEL BOWSER FIRE,OHH421 HPPY00 STM401 STM409 MFS O'Halloran Hill 421
12:16:15 04-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC034 04/09/09 12:16,RESPOND ALARM 13/082,WAYVILLE SHOWGROUNDS,STIRLING ANGUS PAVILION,ROSE TCE,WAYVILLE MAP 130 A 3 TG182,FIP MAIN EAST DOOR,,GLO441 MFS Glen Osmond 441
This would be interesting for the crews onsite and the crews arriving..ahh the RA&HS has started....let the fun begin (lost kids that do not want to be found is not fun) :-D
MFS: *CFSRES INC053 06/09/09 19:24,RESPOND To,HONEYPOT RD,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 E 14 TG182,PERSONS STUCK IN DRAIN NEAR SHOPS PERSON, WAITING AT ROUNDABOUT,CDN431
Interesting that a rescue truck wasn't responded to this job, 439 was in station but wasn't sent. In the end two people were rescued from a drain by crews in B.A. so no big deal, but I would have thought there might have been a better incident type to pick to generate the appropriate response for this type of job.
Quote from: mattb on September 06, 2009, 08:00:38 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC053 06/09/09 19:24,RESPOND To,HONEYPOT RD,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 E 14 TG182,PERSONS STUCK IN DRAIN NEAR SHOPS PERSON, WAITING AT ROUNDABOUT,CDN431
Interesting that a rescue truck wasn't responded to this job, 439 was in station but wasn't sent. In the end two people were rescued from a drain by crews in B.A. so no big deal, but I would have thought there might have been a better incident type to pick to generate the appropriate response for this type of job.
Rescue General woulda probably brought Noarlunga, Sturt, Metro South SES into the mix....
They supposedly used facebook to update their status that they were lost so a freind could call emergency services. Nice to see that kids have their priorities straight.
Wait Wait.... i need to update my facebook status before you pull me out of my wrecked car :roll: you all know it will happen one day :-D
Ive just taken a Leave of Absence from Facebook...being a typical generation Y...or Z i dont know...i believe i can last a total of 29 hours.
Quote from: Zippy on September 07, 2009, 07:58:00 AM
Quote from: mattb on September 06, 2009, 08:00:38 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC053 06/09/09 19:24,RESPOND To,HONEYPOT RD,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 E 14 TG182,PERSONS STUCK IN DRAIN NEAR SHOPS PERSON, WAITING AT ROUNDABOUT,CDN431
Interesting that a rescue truck wasn't responded to this job, 439 was in station but wasn't sent. In the end two people were rescued from a drain by crews in B.A. so no big deal, but I would have thought there might have been a better incident type to pick to generate the appropriate response for this type of job.
Rescue General woulda probably brought Noarlunga, Sturt, Metro South SES into the mix....
How do you know Noarlunga SES or the new SES group was not called ??
New SES group...?????
QuoteThey supposedly used facebook to update their status that they were lost so a freind could call emergency services. Nice to see that kids have their priorities straight.
Wait Wait.... i need to update my facebook status before you pull me out of my wrecked car you all know it will happen one day
:-D supprised it wasn't on TWITter :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWc3WY3fuZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBfxjSFAxQ
;)
Isn't the new SES group just the staff that work out of Noarlunga that go racing off to anything that isn't a tree down? Even cow rescues.
:-D GOLD
But (if you ask them...) they weren't there to rescue the DEAD cow, just protect the other rescuers from being washed away :roll:
Quote from: Mike on September 08, 2009, 12:03:01 PM
:-D GOLD
But (if you ask them...) they weren't there to rescue the DEAD cow, just protect the other rescuers from being washed away :roll:
"...rescue the DEAD cow..".. when was this ??
Last one I know of was a successful calf from a mine shaft.
Was it awhile ago ??
1919408 20:52:09 08-09-09 MANARDO 24P ALPHA STATION UNTILL 2200 CFS Monarto Info
Cant really remember Andrew, 6 or so weeks ago at a guess... it was in the news...
Swiftwater cow rescue (http://www.ses.sa.gov.au/site/about_us/what_ses_does/flood_and_swiftwater_rescue/swiftwater_rescue_team_in_action.jsp)
Yep, pretty swift water there, where is it, might take my waders and try some fishing
Swiftwater Firetruck Rescue http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/gallery/0,22010,5060270-5006020,00.html#
Quote from: Mike on September 09, 2009, 08:34:49 AM
Cant really remember Andrew, 6 or so weeks ago at a guess... it was in the news...
Swiftwater cow rescue (http://www.ses.sa.gov.au/site/about_us/what_ses_does/flood_and_swiftwater_rescue/swiftwater_rescue_team_in_action.jsp)
Forget the Colorado River, im going trying that baby out for my next white water rapid adventure......
1909800 10:22:50 11-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 11/09/09 10:22,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,LOT 1 CONCORDIA RD,CONCORDIA MAP 24 G 6 TG096,BURNOFF OUT OF CONTROL LANDOWNER IN ATTE,NDANCE,SAIR55 CONC00 GAW359 CFS State Air Desk
Yeah, very smart. :roll:
Seriously, this day was forecast a week ago and they still decide- "oh, lets have a burnoff on friday when it's hot and windy"
MFS: *CFSRES INC132 11/09/09 15:48,RESPOND Assist SAAS,LAMEROO ,LAMEROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,PROVIDE FUEL FOR RESCUE HELICOPTER AT LA,MEROO OVAL,LAMR19
What fuel does the chopper use and how do CFS get it? or are there reserves for this situation? and doesn't fuel have a shelf life?
Jet A-1, and there probably a store of it somewhere in the town. As for how they get it there's probably a procedure setup so they can access it whenever.
I understand from turning them out in the past that the company who runs the helicopters store fuel with the CFS and they have a tandem trailer and tow it with the group car. It does have a shelf life, but I am sure they have a process in place to replace it.
1919555 09:01:05 13-09-09 TBGCC: TUMBY BAY BEAT RAMBLERS IN A GRADE FOOTY UNITED YELLANA A GRADE NET BALL BEAT T/BAY CROWS LOST Q 13/09/2009 9:00:27 AM CFS Tumby Bay Group Info
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on September 11, 2009, 03:58:35 PM
Jet A-1, and there probably a store of it somewhere in the town. As for how they get it there's probably a procedure setup so they can access it whenever.
There are several Brigades around that provide a 'fuel dump' for the helicopters. Mostly Brigades who are on the fringe of where the choppers' fuel capacitiy limits. My Brigade used to have a dump.
Quote from: mengcfs on September 16, 2009, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on September 11, 2009, 03:58:35 PM
Jet A-1, and there probably a store of it somewhere in the town. As for how they get it there's probably a procedure setup so they can access it whenever.
There are several Brigades around that provide a 'fuel dump' for the helicopters. Mostly Brigades who are on the fringe of where the choppers' fuel capacitiy limits. My Brigade used to have a dump.
There are several brigades that I can think of that would qualify.............as a dump! :-D
Quote from: Hazmat206 on September 13, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
1919555 09:01:05 13-09-09 TBGCC: TUMBY BAY BEAT RAMBLERS IN A GRADE FOOTY UNITED YELLANA A GRADE NET BALL BEAT T/BAY CROWS LOST Q 13/09/2009 9:00:27 AM CFS Tumby Bay Group Info
WTF??? No wonder CFS looks like a backyard operation putting local footy scores on pager system. Who took their string and cans away!
I recall sitting in SOCC, listening to fishing reports, footy scores and all sorts being discussed over 007 back in the day.
One day the mongs might realise in this modern age someone is watching or listening. Then we might loose the YEAH before roger,send and my favourite you got a copy then applaince name!
:-D
12:41:52 20-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC034 20/09/09 12:41,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RAILWAY TCE,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,PAST RAILWAY STORE TURN RIGHT ON BAGARA,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response
13:10:37 20-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC034 20/09/09 13:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RAILWAY TCE,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,OFF BAGARA RD RESPOMDING WITH RENMARK MF,S,PARG00 CFS Paringa Response
:roll:
What are we looking at baggy arse ?
i found it INTERESTING that half an hour after first page help was required....
A LATE-NIGHT blaze which gutted an Elizabeth Grove house is being treated as suspicious by police.
Emergency services were called to the fire in Marnhull St just after 10pm last night.
Three firetrucks and more than 20 firefighters were called to extinguish the fire. Damage to the house was extensive but police said no one was inside at the time.
Gee, how many firies per appliance! :lol:
Media at it's best again!
19:14:46 20-09-09 STOP CALL 1 ILLEGAL BURN EXTUINGISHED.
Illegal?
At this time of year?
Under what Act?
Clean air act
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on September 20, 2009, 04:21:55 PM
i found it INTERESTING that half an hour after first page help was required....
I would be more interested to know where the Railway store and Bagara are in Renmark...
Renmark probably only called Paringa for their icevests. If they wanted someone to do some work they probably would have called Berri...
Quote from: tft on September 20, 2009, 07:14:07 PM
Clean air act
Clear Air Act no longer exists....was rescinded a few years ago....
Pip
awesome, ill go burn the filtered ive been saving for ages...mostly Computers.
so if clean airs act is gone, what has replaced it??
repealed in 1995
replaced by the Environmental Protection Act
http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/CLEAN%20AIR%20ACT%201984.aspx (http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/CLEAN%20AIR%20ACT%201984.aspx)
Since when were CFS vollies responsible to enforce the Environmental Protection Act, or any other Act other than our own ??
As I understand it, we are only interested in schedule permits under our own Act,
and ensuring that permit holders comply with the Regs. Outside of that, we'd
only be interested if the relevant authority or land-holder called us. Even then
we don't give a rat's whether it is legal or illegal.
Am I missing something important here ??
cheers
Quote from: Alan J on September 20, 2009, 07:07:43 PM
19:14:46 20-09-09 STOP CALL 1 ILLEGAL BURN EXTUINGISHED.
Illegal?
At this time of year?
Under what Act?
Probably just under the clean air act, some councils jump on people pretty hard gotta have a permit all year round and have it extinguished by 3pm for a reduction burn-off.
and this is the sort of page we'd get for that?
looks more like a passer-by or neighbour page than an official council or EPA request.
18:29:24 20-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 20/09/09 18:28,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,CNR OF FRADD RD AND HEASLIP RD,ANGLE VALE MAP 31 E 9 TG102,REPORT OF FIRE ON PROPERTY AT THIS INTER,SECTION,SAIR55 DALK19
13:52:11 21-09-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 21/09/09 13:51,RESPOND Explosive Device,GAOL RD,ADELAIDE MAP 1 D 16 TG182,PRIORITY 2 LIVE GRENADE AT POLICE BARAC,KS,CAR041 MFS Stn 20
like WOW!
Quote from: BundyBear on September 21, 2009, 08:57:01 AM
Quote from: Alan J on September 20, 2009, 07:07:43 PM
19:14:46 20-09-09 STOP CALL 1 ILLEGAL BURN EXTUINGISHED.
Illegal?
At this time of year?
Under what Act?
Probably just under the clean air act, some councils jump on people pretty hard gotta have a permit all year round and have it extinguished by 3pm for a reduction burn-off.
But if the council don't ask us / direct us to extinguish a fire, and it isn't fire danger season, and the fire is not in danger of getting away, what legal power do CFS members have to extinguish the fire ?
Pip
Quote1909006 16:48:23 21-09-09 STRL: Voting on new members this evening, please attend if you can. And the nominees are: James C, Andrew, Adam, Felix, James L, James M, Nick, Tim. - Liz 04#########
Do CFS Brigades vote on whether they like / accept new members..???
If so, have the newbies done any training first..???
Cheers
Shane
[mod edit - removed phone number]
Standard constitution says the brigade votes whether to accept a new member at,
or near the end of, their 6 month probation.
cheers
Quote from: Pipster on September 21, 2009, 04:06:32 PM
But if the council don't ask us / direct us to extinguish a fire, and it isn't fire danger season, and the fire is not in danger of getting away, what legal power do CFS members have to extinguish the fire ?
Pip
My point exactly.
Unless requested as a consequence of a Council or EPA order-to-extinguish, I
can't see any right, or even any obligation to extinguish. Let alone describe
it as an illegal burn.
Now it quite possible that the turn-out was due to council or EPA direction -
I'm not in CommCen so wouldn't know. But the wording of the pager message
doesn't suggest that.
cheers
Thanks AlanJ,
Interesting way to do things, can see pros and cons.
Cheers
Shane
G'day Straps
Should have added that the recruit is supposed to make themselves available to
do BFF1 during their probation. The brigade is supposed to get them on a BFF1
course during that time.
Purpose is two-fold:
To protect people who cannot cope with fire brigade experiences and demands
from themselves, and
to protect the brigade from trouble-makers & mis-fits.
make sense?
cheers
mmmm meant to do the BFF1 during probation before being voted in... but cant get on a course or PPE until there voted in.... makes sense eh
G'day Alex
sounds like you have a story to tell ?
cheers
Not really mate. Just from previous experience in the brigade. We have been told people can neither get PPE or get on a BFF1 course until they are brigade members... So the whole idea of getting people to do the courses before putting them in our numbers never works.
Getting this topic post back on topic.
MFS: *CFSRES INC004 24/09/09 01:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,LOT 178 GREENLANDS DR,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 H 7 TG195,,CAT THRU A FENCE. RESPONDING WITH MFS &,SES (BOUNDARY ROAD). UNKNOWM ENTRAPMENTS,MURR00
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 24/09/09 11:07,RESPOND Hazmat Reduced,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,WHITE POWDER AT PORT AUGUSTA PRISON. DEL,IVERED IN ENVELOPE.,PAU519 MFS Pt Augusta Response
Oops it's probably someones fix for the month :-D
Quote from: Alex on September 22, 2009, 10:25:55 PM
Not really mate. Just from previous experience in the brigade. We have been told people can neither get PPE or get on a BFF1 course until they are brigade members... So the whole idea of getting people to do the courses before putting them in our numbers never works.
Methinks someone is playing word games. Or to put it more simply, "Bollocks".
Recruits have to be issued basic PPE to train with the brigade.
That basic PPE is quite adequate to do BFF1, even if second-hand.
It is writ in the induction paperwork (or used to be) that a recruit shall do
BFF1 during their probation.
The hard bit is finding a BFF1 course to put them on. For that, perhaps our
BTOs & GTO need to put their heads together a little more often.
Quite reasonable to withold flash new PPE until a recruit has demonstrated
their commitment & been accepted by the brigade.
That's how we work it up the hill, anyway.
cheers
Quote from: Alan J on September 24, 2009, 11:32:49 AM
Quite reasonable to withold flash new PPE until a recruit has demonstrated
their commitment & been accepted by the brigade.
To true, we just have issues getting second hand gear down our end. And personally i object to members 'sharing' there PPE with recruits, or just having it taken.
any chance we can get back on topic here?
Not a hope.
10:27:30 02-10-09 R1HQ: TEST PAGE ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED. 464533 02/10/2009 10:24:43 PM CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908933 10:27:28 02-10-09 R1HQ: TEST PAGE ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED. 464533 02/10/2009 10:24:43 PM CFS Duncan-Gosse Response
:?
1930430 22:17:34 01-10-09 MFS: SLOW DOWN...DICTATION SPEED MFS Elizabeth 331
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 02, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
10:27:30 02-10-09 R1HQ: TEST PAGE ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED. 464533 02/10/2009 10:24:43 PM CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908933 10:27:28 02-10-09 R1HQ: TEST PAGE ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED. 464533 02/10/2009 10:24:43 PM CFS Duncan-Gosse Response
:?
Looks like a test page only... no action required then eh?
07:37:57 05-10-09 LOBE RESOND FIRE ALARM LOBETHAL & DISTRICT, AGED HOME, 8 WOODSIDE RD, LOBETHAL *CFSRES:, 05/10/2009 06:39:41 CFS Nuriootpa Response
That woulda really grind your gears on a public holiday lol...
Quote from: Alex on October 02, 2009, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 02, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
10:27:30 02-10-09 R1HQ: TEST PAGE ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED. 464533 02/10/2009 10:24:43 PM CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908933 10:27:28 02-10-09 R1HQ: TEST PAGE ONLY NO ACTION REQUIRED. 464533 02/10/2009 10:24:43 PM CFS Duncan-Gosse Response
:?
Looks like a test page only... no action required then eh?
Didnt realise Duncan-Gosse Brigade existed was what i was on about
It changes every week, Should be Western Districts, but they have 2 stations and one of them was Duncan Gosse, then they want to be paged separetly , I can't keep up with it.
08:29:38 06-10-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC013 06/10/09 08:29,RESPOND Rescue Industria,ALAMEIN AV,LOXTON NORTH MAP 000 0 0 TG193,LADY WITH ARM TANGLED AROUND A PUMPKIN,PEELING MACHINE, PREMISES OF AYSBRAND,LOX029 LOX628 SES Loxton Response
Toooooooo many sherberts on the lopng weekend :-o
1909190 12:58:55 07-10-09 MBRK RESPOND FIRE ALARM Mt BARKER DSM HOSPITAL, WELLINGTON RD, MT BARKER *CFSRES:, 07/10/2009 13:00:02 CFS Salisbury Response
13:04:23 07-10-09 MFS: SLSB19: FROM COMCEN STOP MESSAGE FOR MT BKR - CODED IN ERROR CFS Salisbury Response
Good one, would have been a nice day for a drive :-P
Same system turned out Nuriootpa to Lobethal the other day too...
Clap clap for the programming in WFAM.
So why was Mt Barker not responded at all? even after MFS Comms stopped sals19? Was it a line fault or alarm?
It seemed to be a Firemon Concentrator Test???
1915807 08:19:44 12-10-09 PARNDANA CP PRESCRIPTION BURN TODAY. CREW REPORT FOR BRIEFING 10:00 RDO D HEARD. DEH KI Regional Group
With Gale force winds predicted i should ruddy well hope they aren't burning.
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on October 12, 2009, 07:45:50 AM
1915807 08:19:44 12-10-09 PARNDANA CP PRESCRIPTION BURN TODAY. CREW REPORT FOR BRIEFING 10:00 RDO D HEARD. DEH KI Regional Group
With Gale force winds predicted i should ruddy well hope they aren't burning.
DEH love wind dont they..
Doesn't a bit of wind help get your fire going in the sort of damp / cool conditions we have now...? :evil:
Pip
hah, simply Morialta still lingers in everyones minds ;)
Quote from: Zippy on October 12, 2009, 04:50:14 PM
hah, simply Morialta still lingers in everyones minds ;)
Move on!, Bridge build!, Get the firetruck over it! :wink:
MFS: *CFSRES INC023 13/10/09 07:58,RESPOND LPG TANK/BULLET,SNOWTOWN ,SNOWTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG065,PRIORITY 2 MEET ELIZ STN,SAL329 ELZ331 OAK301 ADL206 ADL205
MFS Low priority Strike team to backup multiple CFS Brigades....interesting..
errr......ok...isnt there like mebbe 50 Brigades between wakefield st and snowtown?....BA Bus fair enough.....but a rescue truck and GP Pumpers?...surely we are old enough to play alone without adult supervision....
apparently they never left elizabeth...
wouldn't the request have come from the cfs some where?
Quote1908094 16:29:48 27-10-09 REQUIRE CREW MEMBERS FOR LAND SEARCH AT 1730 HOURS TODAY CONTACT DO WITH AVAILABILITY BAG TEAM NOT REQUIRED
SES Weastern Adelaide
Who or what is a bag team..???
Cheers
Shane
yet to discover tupperware for packing lunches in mebbe?? :evil:
1909800 19:55:40 27-10-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC066 27/10/09 19:52,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KURARA RD,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,POSSIBLE BURNOFF, AGITATING FIREBUG UNDE,R CARE IN NEW WEST RD,SAIR55 PLI549
Heh heh heh SUFFER. :evil:
Quote from: straps on October 27, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Quote1908094 16:29:48 27-10-09 REQUIRE CREW MEMBERS FOR LAND SEARCH AT 1730 HOURS TODAY CONTACT DO WITH AVAILABILITY BAG TEAM NOT REQUIRED
SES Weastern Adelaide
Who or what is a bag team..???
Cheers
Shane
Shane,
Page was meant to say 'Bike Team'....i think anyway! I personally have had issues with the link paging calltakers not sending the correct and accurate dictated information.
Hope that clears it up.
Cheers
Some interesting paging info, (more around the times etc..!!!)
Quote1924262 13:20:14 03-11-09 WO81 CatB Rhino's Tavern Stenhouse Bay Rd, Stenhouse Bay
SAAS Unit Yorketown
and then a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle while later;
Quote1924962 15:30:10 03-11-09 OC5 CatB Rhino's Tavern Stenhouse Bay Rd, Stenhouse Bay
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
Cheers
Shane
Quick question when the page says change to quarters etc is that the same as a move up in nsw like when there is a prolonged incident so another station moves to a different station to cover that area???
yes
1909195 16:48:18 09-11-09 RCR CREW REQUIRED CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO HAMLEY BRIDGE STATION. PLEASE ATTEND STATION IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE NOW. CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
Just curious, if a 24 is required for a fire some distance away would it not be better if Hamley is just overlooked and another brigade from slightly further out sent, instead of them responding and leaving their area uncovered for RCR, and a COQ needed.
Would seem the sensible route surely, or get them a 2nd 24?
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on November 09, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
1909195 16:48:18 09-11-09 RCR CREW REQUIRED CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO HAMLEY BRIDGE STATION. PLEASE ATTEND STATION IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE NOW. CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
Just curious, if a 24 is required for a fire some distance away would it not be better if Hamley is just overlooked and another brigade from slightly further out sent, instead of them responding and leaving their area uncovered for RCR, and a COQ needed.
Would seem the sensible route surely, or get them a 2nd 24?
it would have made more sence to get dalkeith to do to COQ coz you have gawler 359 elizabeth 339 and 331 and virginia to cover dalkeith area for RCR :|
Quote from: boss on November 09, 2009, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on November 09, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
1909195 16:48:18 09-11-09 RCR CREW REQUIRED CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO HAMLEY BRIDGE STATION. PLEASE ATTEND STATION IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE NOW. CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
Just curious, if a 24 is required for a fire some distance away would it not be better if Hamley is just overlooked and another brigade from slightly further out sent, instead of them responding and leaving their area uncovered for RCR, and a COQ needed.
Would seem the sensible route surely, or get them a 2nd 24?
it would have made more sence to get dalkeith to do to COQ coz you have gawler 359 elizabeth 339 and 331 and virginia to cover dalkeith area for RCR :|
as opposed to virginia, 329 & 339 covering salisbury's area?
Al has a decent point, nice to try to strategically over look certain brigadesm but at the same time, the CFS should be doing more backfilling of stations, and sending the closest resources to the fire.
The thing is, you can take away Dalkeith and Salisbury as they are both in area's that already have rescue coverage. In the case the Hamley Bridge crew are fairly close, so to speak, to the fire, taking either Salisbury or Dalkeith out the system isn't going to affect anything, which kind of brings the point, why not just use those brigades to go to the fire. Having all their trucks out isn't really an issue, but I guess, where do you draw the line. It doesn't affect RCR or urban responses as MFS are going either way, but rural response it does affect.
1800169 11:12:24 06-12-09 MFS: Call Sign LGS281 changed to OAK302. N MFS Largs North 281
1908961 14:08:30 06-12-09 FROM THE ADELAIDE AIRPORT, FATHER CHRISTMAS HAS BEEN SIGHTED IN YOUR AREA CFS Sellicks Info
Woo hoo Santa claus is back in town :-D 8-)
1908967 20:28:20 09-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 09/12/09 20:27,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,VICTOR HARBOR RD,OLD NOARLUNGA MAP 196 A 15 TG134,RED COROLLA,SEAF00 CDN431 MCLV00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
4 Appliances???
Can't of been too bad as it was out on arrival
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 09, 2009, 08:04:15 PM
1908967 20:28:20 09-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 09/12/09 20:27,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,VICTOR HARBOR RD,OLD NOARLUNGA MAP 196 A 15 TG134,RED COROLLA,SEAF00 CDN431 MCLV00 CDN439 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
4 Appliances???
Can't of been too bad as it was out on arrival
slow day at the ranch?
Yeah, looks stupid, a 2nd alarm car fire, but thats how they want it, Seaford (or Mawson group) want dual response and MFS don't count CFS due to potential to not turn out....makes for a 2nd alarm car fire, haha
Those red corollas can make for a huge inferno though...
I still want to know why we are sending 2 CFS brigades out to a car fire. As far as I can tell, the MFS changed their response to these incidents a couple of years ago and now without any consultation those CFS brigades despatched by BOMS have somehow now also had their response changed.
I know our own brigade response plans, signed off by Region and Group only stipulate one brigade, but now every vehicle fire we respond to is automatically two brigades.
CFS COSO's (2008) state: 1 x App – min Second app. required if no CABA on first
Quote from: mattb on December 10, 2009, 06:51:39 PM
I know our own brigade response plans, signed off by Region and Group only stipulate one brigade, but now every vehicle fire we respond to is automatically two brigades.
Might be worth speaking with region again Matt then forwarding that info on again? Theres plenty of brigades with BOMS response data that get to go play with themselves [so to speak].
A car fire is a two appliance responce, this changed a few years ago because of a couple of cars that were on LPG that went bang.
QuoteMight be worth speaking with region again Matt then forwarding that info on again? Theres plenty of brigades with BOMS response data that get to go play with themselves [so to speak].
Thanks mate, there is about to be some significant changes to our response data in BOMS so I will use that as an opportunity to investigate it.
QuoteA car fire is a two appliance responce, this changed a few years ago because of a couple of cars that were on LPG that went bang.
Can you find an SOP to verify that, according to the 2008 CFS COSO's and SOP's it is a single appliance response unless the first appliance is not carrying B.A.
MFS have a different policy.
Yeah matt's right,
1 x App – min. Second app. required if no CABA on first
BUT...when can we ever guarantee BA operators on the first appliance.
Lack of BA operators trained, equals automatic 2nd alarm Vehicle fire upon 000.... (2nd Alarm Vehicle Fire being a cumulative response of 3 appliances)
1800180 16:54:51 11-12-09 MFS: SPECIAL MESSAGE: ALL PERSONNEL MUST WEAR SAFETY GLASSES, NOT HELMET VISORS MFS Woodville 249
1800179 16:54:45 11-12-09 MFS: SPECIAL MESSAGE: ALL PERSONNEL MUST WEAR SAFETY GLASSES, NOT HELMET VISORS MFS Woodville 243
1800180 16:52:04 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC065 11/12/09 16:51,RESPOND ALARM 24/046,ACI,625 PORT RD,WEST CROYDON MAP 105 A 11 TG182,FIP NEW GUARD HOUSE ADJACENT TO PUMPS.,,WDV243 WDV249 PPT371 MFS Woodville 249
1800179 16:52:02 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC065 11/12/09 16:51,RESPOND ALARM 24/046,ACI,625 PORT RD,WEST CROYDON MAP 105 A 11 TG182,FIP NEW GUARD HOUSE ADJACENT TO PUMPS.,,WDV243 WDV249 PPT371 MFS Woodville 243
17:30:23 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 11/12/09 17:28,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NORTH COAST RD,STOKES BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG130,RAPID QAO57535. IAN LARKINS PLACE.,CANDRAVALE? FIRE IN PADDOCK.,SAIR55 WSTD00 CFS KI Group Officers Response
17:40:58 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 11/12/09 17:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NORTH COAST RD,STOKES BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG130,FIRE IN PADDOCK. KANDRAVALE.,RAPID 057535,SAIR55 WISR00 PARN19 CFS KI Group Officers Response
17:56:04 11-12-09 *CFSRES RESPOND GRASS FIRE NORTH COAST- RESPOND WD34-CONTACT CAPTAIN 0428593217 CFS KI Group Officers Response
17:56:25 11-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC068 11/12/09 17:55,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NORTH COAST RD,STOKES BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG130,,SAIR55 KNGC00 CFS Kingscote Response
18:12:23 11-12-09 CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 583/ 584, SCRUB FIRE, STOKES BAY, KANGAROO ISLAND 315 DEGREES, 25 KMS FROM WAB, INC: 875917 > 11/12/2009 6:12:17 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
:roll: here we go...
Re the Car fire nothing CFS no SOP for 2 appliance.
I was talking about MFS and LPG car fire.
HAPPY 30TH BIRTHDAY ADAM FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BRIGADE CFS Meningie Info
Happy birthday Adam :lol:
CHLOE JANE YELLAND, BORN 1AM 15/12/09, 9LB 4OZ. CONGRATULATIONS CAM AND SARAH. CFS Compton Info
Another future Captain is born :-D
Congratulations Camo
1909800 12:38:16 15-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC031 15/12/09 12:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KIM HOOPERS HOUSE ORROROO ,ORROROO MAP 0 0 0 TG064,AT REQUEST OF R4HQ WITH ORROROO & OTHER,BRIGADES, WEST OF KIM HOOPERS PLACE,SAIR55 BROO00 CFS State Air Desk
And so the battle for South Australia begins :roll:
Quote from: SA Firey on December 14, 2009, 11:21:39 AM
HAPPY 30TH BIRTHDAY ADAM FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BRIGADE CFS Meningie Info
Happy birthday Adam :lol:
Thanks. PS: 30 is the new 20!
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 563, 564 & SPOTTER 506 RESPOND GRASSFIRE,ARNO BAY, 39 DEGREES, 99 KMS FROM PLAB INC NO 876254 > 15/12/2009 2:05:07 PM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Appliances in attendance
Arno Bay
Butler
Cleve
Port Neill
Rudall District
Wharminda
1909287 13:09:54 16-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 16/12/09 13:09,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BENAYEO RD, APSLEY NARACOORTE CFS,NARACOORTE MAP 0 0 0 TG227,ASSISTING CFA,REQUEST FROM VIC FIRE,KYBY00 NRCT19 HYNM00 CFS Hynam Response
1800172 11:38:23 17-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 17/12/09 11:38,RESPOND ALARM 40/103,WESTPAC CALL CENTRE,7 LAFFER DR,BEDFORD PARK MAP 153 K 4 TG182,FIP ADJ MAIN ENTRY,,OHH421 ELZ331 MFS O'Halloran Hill 421
1800164 11:18:14 17-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC044 17/12/09 11:17,RESPOND ALARM 48/098,ST PETERS COLLEGE,WYATT ALLEN HOUSE,OFF TRINITY RD,HACKNEY MAP 118 N 6 TG182,FIP LHS MAIN ENTRANCE,,BPK451 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331
331 Clocking up some km's :-P
LOFT MGT: All Capts be aware that on Wed night it was confirmed that Nomex 3A is now available for purchase can you compile a list of what gear you need so that we can order it. thanks Lofty GO 18/12/2009 CFS Lofty Group Management
Quick everyone start ordering now :wink:
GROUP DRINKS AT CHERRY 19:00 TONIGHT AND FOR THOSE THAT SAID IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN EDEN 14 ARRIVING AROUND 17:00 TODAY. SIGNED EDEN CAP CFS Eden Hills Info
Quote from: SA Firey on December 18, 2009, 07:45:25 AM
LOFT MGT: All Capts be aware that on Wed night it was confirmed that Nomex 3A is now available for purchase can you compile a list of what gear you need so that we can order it. thanks Lofty GO 18/12/2009 CFS Lofty Group Management
Quick everyone start ordering now :wink:
can't we claim this as a SA Firefighter win?? Thats OK Rainer....you can buy the beers :lol:
A win for groups perhaps
ffs...lighten up Francis....T.I.C
Quote from: crashndash on December 19, 2009, 09:52:22 PM
ffs...lighten up Francis....T.I.C
Any of you homo's touch me... or my stuff an I'll kill ya!
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 20/12/09 10:44,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,1754 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY PLAIN MAP 71 N 7 TG182,PICKLES AUCTIONS BLACK SMOKE SHOWING,ADL205 CAR031 SAL321 SAL329 SLSB19
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 20/12/09 10:51,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,1754 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY PLAIN MAP 71 N 7 TG182,PICKLES AUCTIONS TG 155,AD2015 ELZ331 ELZ339 OAK303 ADL206 AD2092 MACKDA MURPHY BENHAM
MFS: *CFSRES INC031 20/12/09 10:58,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,1754 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY PLAIN MAP 71 N 7 TG182,3RD ALARM TG 155 PICKLES AUCTIONS,APK361 PPT371
Interesting that people are named as a response, would they be specialist skilled operators or recalls??
QuoteAny of you homo's touch me... or my stuff an I'll kill ya!
Look out everyone Jaff has the shot gun and isnt afraid to use it :lol:
Quote from: Benji on December 20, 2009, 09:37:17 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 20/12/09 10:44,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,1754 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY PLAIN MAP 71 N 7 TG182,PICKLES AUCTIONS BLACK SMOKE SHOWING,ADL205 CAR031 SAL321 SAL329 SLSB19
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 20/12/09 10:51,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,1754 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY PLAIN MAP 71 N 7 TG182,PICKLES AUCTIONS TG 155,AD2015 ELZ331 ELZ339 OAK303 ADL206 AD2092 MACKDA MURPHY BENHAM
MFS: *CFSRES INC031 20/12/09 10:58,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,1754 MAIN NORTH RD,SALISBURY PLAIN MAP 71 N 7 TG182,3RD ALARM TG 155 PICKLES AUCTIONS,APK361 PPT371
Interesting that people are named as a response, would they be specialist skilled operators or recalls??
Interesting how 311 haven't been called, as they would be second closest response before eliz and oakden :?
The names are the on call roles EG Safety Officer, Commander, etc - Certain one's go to certain levels of alarm.
12:05:41 20-12-09 EUDN: RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION MANUAL TURNOUT CFSRES CFS Eudunda Response
1909434 12:05:39 20-12-09 EUDN: RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION MANUAL TURNOUT CFSRES CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response
21:12:59 20-12-09 EUDN: RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION MANUAL TURNOUT CFSRES CFS Eudunda Response
1909434 21:12:57 20-12-09 EUDN: RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION MANUAL TURNOUT CFSRES CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response
yad think someone wuld have gone n unplugged it by now...obviously thick skinned!
CFS: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS IS CATASTROPHIC - ALL ON-CALL STAFF ATTEND SCC IMMEDIATELY - SC THOMASON > 23/12/2009 9:13:43 AM CFS Headquarters Info
Pray we dont get the BIG ONE :-o
OOPS spoke to soon Port Lincoln is going off.
1930428 10:00:30 24-12-09 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 24/12/09 10:00,RESPOND ALARM 10/019,SACE BOARD,60 GREENHILL RD,WAYVILLE MAP 130 D 2 TG182,FIP INSIDE MAIN ENTRY FOYER,,AD2011 AD2012 MFS Stn 20
By the way i do know what is is, just saying this is rare :wink:
204 must be off the road?
202 and 329 are at pt augusta
you may also notice a 322 temporarily on the run
1918493 11:23:20 25-12-09 (1of2) MFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP:PT LINCOLN MFS & CFS CREWS RESPONDING TO MULTIPLE POSSIBLE RE-IGNITIONS IN THE PT LINCOLN AREA, NEAR WESTERN APPROACH & NEW WES MFS Car 31
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 26, 2009, 09:05:35 AM
1918493 11:23:20 25-12-09 (1of2) MFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP:PT LINCOLN MFS & CFS CREWS RESPONDING TO MULTIPLE POSSIBLE RE-IGNITIONS IN THE PT LINCOLN AREA, NEAR WESTERN APPROACH & NEW WES MFS Car 31
they be gettin calls like that 4 days n days public is very very very nervous over there!
Just wondering about the terminology used in the message....are we really talking about smouldering hotspots, rather than a true rekindle (which to me, indicates the fire has taken off again into unburnt ground......)
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on December 26, 2009, 09:53:07 AM
Just wondering about the terminology used in the message....are we really talking about smouldering hotspots, rather than a true rekindle (which to me, indicates the fire has taken off again into unburnt ground......)
Pip
there is quite a few pockets of unburnt ground with in the perimeter so fair chance thats the problem.
Pip - reignitions, but within the burnt areas and mineral earth break so far.
LINC: MESSAGE ... ALL CREW BACK AT BASE MANY THANKS FOR A BRILLIANT DAYS WORK ---HARD N FILTHY--- WELL DONE, GREAT EFFORT BY THE CREW WHO ATTENDED FROM LINCOLN CAPTAIN 26/12/2009 19:16:54 PM CFS Lincoln Info
Nice work guys :-D
MFS: ROXBY DOWNS CFS CHANGE QUARTERS TO WOOMERA CFS STATION CFS Roxby Downs Response
Something you dont see everyday
11:07:42 30-12-09 MFS: 331 COQ TANUNDA P1 UNTIL IN AREA MFS Elizabeth 331
Confirmed school fire at Nuriootpa High School. :wink:
18:21:19 31-12-09 FYI OUR SIREN WILL BE RECOMMISSIONED FOR CALLOUTS AS OF 7AM 01/01/10 CHEERS LT GILLES CFS Monash Info
Start blowing the dust off those sirens everyone summer is well and truly here.
Good to see Monash brigade blowing the cobwebs out of their station siren cause theres alot more bigger fires to come :|
Don't jinx them Robert!!!
25:21 02-01-10 CFS: *CFSRES BOMBER 580/582 & FIREBIRD 504 RESPOND GRASSFIRE NAIRNE 172 DEGREES 7 KMS FROM WAB PIR 878042 > 2/01/2010 12:23:00 PM CFS/NRG Leigh Creek Response
550kms
Surely we had an observation chopper stationed closer than Leigh Creek?
Looks like the NRG guys, for some reason, are on the paging list to recieve the dispatch messages for the Bombers...like many other Groupies & Captains around the place....
The Bombers were at WAB - Woodside Airbase, so not far away......
Pip
1909319 12:38:44 03-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC034 03/01/10 12:37,RESPOND Marine Vessel,ROBE ,ROBE MAP 0 0 0 TG229,BOAT FIRE. 2KM OFF SHORE WEST OF THE OBE,LISK. APPROX 1.5KM W OF ROBE. R.V. POINT, ROBE BOAT RAMP FOR AMBOS & SAPOL.,ROBE19 MIL029 CFS Robe Group Officers Response
Hmmm interesting situation but one problem the robe brigade dont have a response boat :wink:
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on January 03, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
1909319 12:38:44 03-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC034 03/01/10 12:37,RESPOND Marine Vessel,ROBE ,ROBE MAP 0 0 0 TG229,BOAT FIRE. 2KM OFF SHORE WEST OF THE OBE,LISK. APPROX 1.5KM W OF ROBE. R.V. POINT, ROBE BOAT RAMP FOR AMBOS & SAPOL.,ROBE19 MIL029 CFS Robe Group Officers Response
Hmmm interesting situation but one problem the robe brigade dont have a response boat :wink:
But Kingston SE SES do which Millicent SES would know.
12:47:24 03-01-10 MFS: FROM ROBE CFS, STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 34 - BOAT FIRE. THANKYOU. CFS Robe Response
I would assume Robe CFS were able to find out the local extra information you cannot place on a page.
That would explain this message
1909323 12:40:18 03-01-10 MFS: CONTACT DETAILS FOR REPORTING PERSON IS - PETER DOUGLAS, **** *** ***. HE IS IN A ANOTHER BOAT ASISSTING VESSEL. CFS Robe Response
Quote from: Pipster on January 02, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
Looks like the NRG guys, for some reason, are on the paging list to recieve the dispatch messages for the Bombers...like many other Groupies & Captains around the place....
not just that, the NRG guys also get SIG INC pages too (not all the time but often). It was advised to HQ this was occuring a long time ago but nothing has been done about it, I guess if the NRG guys aren't complaining who cares.
Quote from: Darius on January 04, 2010, 08:23:12 AM
Quote from: Pipster on January 02, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
Looks like the NRG guys, for some reason, are on the paging list to recieve the dispatch messages for the Bombers...like many other Groupies & Captains around the place....
not just that, the NRG guys also get SIG INC pages too (not all the time but often). It was advised to HQ this was occuring a long time ago but nothing has been done about it, I guess if the NRG guys aren't complaining who cares.
Or perhaps there just meant to get it to keep them updated.
The NRG guys hardly get any fire calls at all so this is a way to keep them informed of whats happening on the outside world
Leigh Creek is rather isolated, i guess if anyone of us were there, we'd love to recieve random pager messages!
Or possibly its an old address that is used for something else now?
1908904 15:07:33 05-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 05/01/10 15:07,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,WELLINGTON RD,WISTOW MAP 000 0 0 TG128,HIGHLAND VALLEY NEAR ARCHER HILL,LTHT42 LTHT00 NAIR00
After listnening to an absolute scheiße storm over the radio between the IC and a lt from an appliance regarding closest appropriate resources not being responded, is it appropriate to to do this or is it better logging your grievances after the incident.
And the subsequent manual turnout...
15:04:01 05-01-10 STBN: *CFSRES: RESPOND STRATHALBYN STATION MANUAL TURNOUT 05-01-10 15:03
That was quite a nice little conversation on the radio. Frankly,the Woodchester Lt. should probably shut up and log his grievances later.
And the subsequent:
1909035 15:13:14 05-01-10 STBN: STOP CALL RECEIVED 05-01-10 15:12 CFS Strathalbyn Response
Not having heard it, I could understand something being said. Sounds like things mave have gone a little to far?? Certainly should be followed up after the incident in any case.
Why was the manual turnout message generated though? Even if it was just to get crew to the station, its boarderline to self responding...
I did not hear the conversation but in a hypothetical situation that ends in the coroners court , if the question is asked of an individual - "Did you believe that there were closer, more appropriate units available?" and the answer is given - "yes" the subsequent question would surely be " What did you do to improve the situation?" . What would the coroner consider the best answer - " I decided to shut up and log my grievance later" or "I made sure the Incident controller was aware of the options I knew about" ?
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 05, 2010, 01:44:12 PM
1908904 15:07:33 05-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 05/01/10 15:07,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,WELLINGTON RD,WISTOW MAP 000 0 0 TG128,HIGHLAND VALLEY NEAR ARCHER HILL,LTHT42 LTHT00 NAIR00
After listnening to an absolute filtered storm over the radio between the IC and a lt from an appliance regarding closest appropriate resources not being responded, is it appropriate to to do this or is it better logging your grievances after the incident.
Google Maps - Wellington Road / Bunnetts Road
Nairne..14.6km
Littlehampton... 12km
Strathalbyn.... 15km
Yeah last time I checked its not that far from littlehampton to wistow, same with Nairne, around the back way they are fairly quick. After that response no further resources were needed.
Yeah, that Lt from Woodchester sure did his block, but I am sure the IC has his reasons for following response plans........
Quote from: DaveP on January 05, 2010, 03:33:54 PM
I did not hear the conversation but in a hypothetical situation that ends in the coroners court , if the question is asked of an individual - "Did you believe that there were closer, more appropriate units available?" and the answer is given - "yes" the subsequent question would surely be " What did you do to improve the situation?" . What would the coroner consider the best answer - " I decided to shut up and log my grievance later" or "I made sure the Incident controller was aware of the options I knew about" ?
As you said you didn't hear the conversation, but:
There is a LARGE difference between making your concerns known to the IC, and blowing up on the radio and pretty much demanding that your group be responded. Then having Strath manual turnout.
Especially when fact happens to prove that you are wrong in your assumptions of who is closer...
1909195 21:32:18 05-01-10 GOOD EVENING. FYI SALISBURY 34P WILL NOW BE THE PRIMARY URBAN/RESCUE RESPONSE APPLIANCE. SALISBURY 24P WILL BE BACK UP AND RURAL RESPONSE. THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO ASSISTED TONIGHT. ANY QUERIES PLEASE CONTACT CAPTAIN.
1909190 21:36:16 05-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 05/01/10 21:35,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,KENSINGTON WAY,BURTON MAP 60 C 12 TG102,MULTIPLE CALLS,SLSB19 SAL321 SAL329
CFS Salisbury response
Good timing to christen the truck
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 05, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
1909195 21:32:18 05-01-10 GOOD EVENING. FYI SALISBURY 34P WILL NOW BE THE PRIMARY URBAN/RESCUE RESPONSE APPLIANCE. SALISBURY 24P WILL BE BACK UP AND RURAL RESPONSE. THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO ASSISTED TONIGHT. ANY QUERIES PLEASE CONTACT CAPTAIN.
1909190 21:36:16 05-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 05/01/10 21:35,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,KENSINGTON WAY,BURTON MAP 60 C 12 TG102,MULTIPLE CALLS,SLSB19 SAL321 SAL329
CFS Salisbury response
Good timing to christen the truck
They were out the door with both appliances straight away too, sounding like the BA crews are hard at work on the scanner :wink:
1908958 16:25:56 05-01-10 Special meeting tomorrow night with McLaren Vale regarding Seaford MFS, so please make an effort to attend. Be at stn 19.30hrs. CAPT. CFS Aldinga Info
LOFT GOs: Small fire at coro, bombers stop called. GCO Dave 7/1/2010 14:8:48 CFS Lofty Group Officers Info
LOFT MGT: Grassfire hillside rd springfield, 441 on scene, Sturt group and bombers mobile. Tg146. GCO Dave 7/1/2010 14:38:35 CFS Lofty Group Management
LOFT MGT: springfield Grassfire only small, stop given. GCO Dave 7/1/2010 14:38:35 7/1/2010 14:43:24 CFS Lofty Group Management
LOFT MGT: FYI grassfire Pine Ave Hahndorf, approx 50x20m from bomber, at rear of soccer oval south of freeway. TG128. GCO Dave 7/1/2010 14:56:18 CFS Lofty Group Management
Loads of time on his hands...not a bad idea tho.
15:00:48 07-01-10 LOFT: Bridgewater respond grassfire Pine Ave Hahndorf, TG128 *CFSRES 7/1/2010 15:0:38
Also doing his own responding to ......
1930429 16:15:29 07-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 07/01/10 16:15,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,GOSS CT,ST PETERS MAP 2 P 7 TG182,FIRE IN A DRAIN,SAIR55 BLP211 MFS Beulah Park 211 Response
1909800 16:38:35 07-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 07/01/10 16:38,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,GOSS CT,ST PETERS MAP 2 P 7 TG182,STAGE END HARROW RD,SAIR55 ADL202 CFS State Air Desk
I was travelling up the freeway and don't reckon that the roof beacons were working on the Bridgewater appliance. Front mounted and rear moounted lights were good, but don't reckon the roof top beacons were working...!?!?!!?!
May have accidentally switched off the top beacons
07:35:07 08-01-10 We have been asked to man our station tomorrow from 10.00. Anyone available contact me, we will try to do shifts so no one is there too long Cheers Greg =20 =20 =20 =20 ********************************************************+********** CFS McLaren Vale Info
1930428 07:55:10 08-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC011 08/01/10 07:54,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,MAURICE RD,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 F 6 TG195,PRIORITY 2,ADL202 AD2017 MFS Stn 20
Quote from: straps on January 07, 2010, 09:37:48 PM
I was travelling up the freeway and don't reckon that the roof beacons were working on the Bridgewater appliance. Front mounted and rear moounted lights were good, but don't reckon the roof top beacons were working...!?!?!!?!
They were told to respond priority 2, so the hazard red and blues would have been a mistake.
Interestin Page
"USE OF CALL SIGNS FOR MAWSON GROUP PRESCRIBED OFFICERS BY UNAUTHORISED PERSONS IN UNAUTHORISED PAGER MESSAGES ARE NOT ACCEPATABLE AND WILL BE REFERRED TO THE POLICE FOR INVESTIGATION. ALL MEMBERS PLEASE NOTE. THANKS GO.
CFS Mawson Group info"
possibly stemmed from this???
test 09 from gco CFS R1 Weather
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 08, 2010, 11:03:23 PM
possibly stemmed from this???
test 09 from gco CFS R1 Weather
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 08, 2010, 11:03:23 PM
possibly stemmed from this???
test 09 from gco CFS R1 Weather
lol...everyone in region 1 got it....
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 08, 2010, 07:59:54 AM
07:35:07 08-01-10 We have been asked to man our station tomorrow from 10.00. Anyone available contact me, we will try to do shifts so no one is there too long Cheers Greg =20 =20 =20 =20 ********************************************************+********** CFS McLaren Vale Info
Interesting considering the GFDI is only forecast to hit 38 and FFDI 59 today.... I would have thought you'd try to rest crews as much as possible, especially considering Sun/Mon are likely to be busier.
Quote from: Zippy on January 09, 2010, 04:52:45 AM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 08, 2010, 11:03:23 PM
possibly stemmed from this???
test 09 from gco CFS R1 Weather
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 08, 2010, 11:03:23 PM
possibly stemmed from this???
test 09 from gco CFS R1 Weather
lol...everyone in region 1 got it....
And it was probably related to this
test 09 - sorry everyone in R1. Securatrack screwed up and put the Region WX pager ID on the back label of this pager as its personal ID. Sturt GCO
Pip
12:45:58 09-01-10 BV81 CatB Cambrai-sedan Rd, Sedan FUEL SPILLAGE
SAAS Road Crash Research
Hmmm still no Fire Service paged :-o
Dont jump to conclusions to hastily SAFirey, job happened at approx 0700 this morning and after consulting locals it was decided SAPol could investigate first.
Quote**** INFO: Reminder to stay hydrated over the next three days and have lunch before 12:00. BOHS
Is it just me? Or does it seem that either some people need to be reminded how to wipe there a**es or someone just loves sending messages...
Quote from: Alex on January 09, 2010, 12:24:34 PM
Quote**** INFO: Reminder to stay hydrated over the next three days and have lunch before 12:00. BOHS
Is it just me? Or does it seem that either some people need to be reminded how to wipe there a**es or someone just loves sending messages...
prob not a lot wrong with the part relating to keeping hydrated but having lunch b4 twelve... :roll:
I know theres a lot of numptys out there... but i would have thought people are capable of looking after there own welfare. JMO
now that would just be silly Alex....u would need twice the amount of pages....one for the folders and one for the scrunchers....and that would just waste all those little GRN things and someone may need them you know......i mean there might be a heatwave and we might need to do stuff to trees or cats :evil:
1924962 21:35:07 09-01-10 LE2 CatB Greenhill Rd, Hazelwood Park 119 M16
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
1924962 21:32:56 09-01-10 DR2 CatB Greenhill Rd, Hazelwood Park 119 M16
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
What's DR2 and 'Adelaide Uni Road Accident research'?
What's DR2 and 'Adelaide Uni Road Accident research'?
DR2 is Dr Bill Griggs from Medstar, and Adelaide Uni is the Road Accident Research Unit. :wink:
1800186 11:20:46 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC050 10/01/10 11:20,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,521 CHURCHILL RD,KILBURN MAP 93 P 10 TG182,PRIORITY 2,ADL206 MFS Adelaide 206
1919074 11:03:18 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 10/01/10 11:02,RESPOND RCR,SOUTH RD & AYLIFFES RD,ST MARYS MAP 153 P 1 TG182,401, 409 ON SCENE, ENTRAPMENT,CAR041 MFS Car 41
1919074 10:58:24 10-01-10 MFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP:AUTOMATIC 2ND ALARM 'C' RISK TO 521 CHURCHILL RD, KILBURN, K88 ON ARRIVAL, ELDERLY PERSON REPORTED ON ARRIVAL MFS Car 41
1919074 10:54:37 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC050 10/01/10 10:53,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,521 CHURCHILL RD,KILBURN MAP 93 P 10 TG182,PERSONS REPORTED, CNR FOOTE,CAR041 OAK301 WDV249 MFS Car 41
1800181 10:50:14 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC050 10/01/10 10:49,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,521 CHURCHILL RD,KILBURN MAP 93 P 10 TG182,CORNER FOOTE AVE, PERSONS REPORTED,ADL202 OAK301 MFS Adelaide 201
1800177 10:44:15 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 10/01/10 10:43,RESPOND RCR,CNR MAIN STH RD & AYLIFFES RD,ST MARYS MAP 153 P 1 TG182,POSSIBLE ENTRAPMENTS,STM409 STM401 MFS St Marys 401
800096 10:29:20 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 10/01/10 10:28,RESPOND ALARM 30/017,STRATHMONT CENTRE,GRAND JUNCTION RD,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 G 8 TG182,ASE DEVICE 668,FIP ALARM NURSES TRAINING BLDG,PDS221 OAK301 MFS Paradise
1918493 10:18:24 10-01-10 MFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP:confirmed fire, Junction Market, Junctions Market, 2nd alarm,tg 155 MFS Car 31
1930428 10:17:46 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 10/01/10 10:17,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CNR GRAND JUNCTION RD & PROSPECT RD,KILBURN MAP 94 B 10 TG155,JUNCTION MARKETS TG155,AD2015 ADL206 AD2090 PPT371 PAD251 WDV243 SHEPRD RUXTON MORGAN
1800174 10:12:11 10-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 10/01/10 10:11,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CNR GRAND JUNCTION RD & PROSPECT RD,KILBURN MAP 94 B 10 TG182,PALLETS ALIGHT AGAINST A BUILDING AT JUN,CTION MARKETS,ADL205 CAR041 APK361 PPT371 OAK303 MFS Prospect 371
Mets busy today, especially in the kilburn area
206 3 different incidents in 2 hours!
1909800 17:29:24 11-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC115 11/01/10 17:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LEIGH CREEK ,LEIGH CREEK MAP 0 0 0 TG072,FIRE AT THE MINE DUMP - LEIGH CREEK MINE, RD , LEIGH CREEK,SAIR55 LCRK00
Yay now the guys at leigh creek have something to do :wink:
wow..amazing.....
....they have grass at Leigh Creek!! :-P
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/01/10 14:03,RESPOND MARINE RESCUE,RANDELL RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND MAP 308 B8 TG138,50M FROM BRIDGE,PERSON HAS DELIBERATLY DRIVEN INTO WATER,STILL IN VEHICLE,SDO050 STH029 GLWA19 SES South Coast Response
STURT INFO: Could all CFS members go adelaidenow.com.au and vote in the poll on CFS funding, it will make a difference!. Get your families and friends to also.CFS Sturt Group info
Done :-D
Quote from: SA Firey on January 12, 2010, 12:36:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/01/10 14:03,RESPOND MARINE RESCUE,RANDELL RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND MAP 308 B8 TG138,50M FROM BRIDGE,PERSON HAS DELIBERATLY DRIVEN INTO WATER,STILL IN VEHICLE,SDO050 STH029 GLWA19 SES South Coast Response
Fantastic save by a couple of locals, well done guys, believe there will be some bravery nominations come out of it.
MFS: *CFSRES INC143 12/01/10 20:14,RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY,VERRALL RD,UPPER HERMITAGE MAP 74 D 14 TG098,ASSIST WITH HERMITAGE 34 TRUCK IN DANGER, OF TIPPING OVER AT BOTTOM OF ROAD,TTG020 TTGY19 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
OOPS
epic fail...
1909191 20:15:18 12-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC143 12/01/10 20:14,RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY,VERRALL RD,UPPER HERMITAGE MAP 74 D 14 TG098,ASSIST WITH HERMITAGE 34 TRUCK IN DANGER, OF TIPPING OVER AT BOTTOM OF ROAD,TTG020 TTGY19 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
1909187 20:15:16 12-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC143 12/01/10 20:14,RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY,VERRALL RD,UPPER HERMITAGE MAP 74 D 14 TG098,ASSIST WITH HERMITAGE 34 TRUCK IN DANGER, OF TIPPING OVER AT BOTTOM OF ROAD,TTG020 TTGY19 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1928011 20:15:14 12-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC143 12/01/10 20:14,RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY,VERRALL RD,UPPER HERMITAGE MAP 74 D 14 TG098,ASSIST WITH HERMITAGE 34 TRUCK IN DANGER, OF TIPPING OVER AT BOTTOM OF ROAD,TTG020 TTGY19 SES Central Region
1908086 20:15:12 12-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC143 12/01/10 20:14,RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY,VERRALL RD,UPPER HERMITAGE MAP 74 D 14 TG098,ASSIST WITH HERMITAGE 34 TRUCK IN DANGER, OF TIPPING OVER AT BOTTOM OF ROAD,TTG020 TTGY19 SES Tea Tree Gully Response
looks like someone had a bit of an oops
Hmmm, not sure what the SES could do , sounds like a call for TRUCKWORKS :-D
1800177 21:11:36 12-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC152 12/01/10 21:11,RESPOND ALARM 40/124,MITSUBISHI AUSTRALIA LTD,AREA PANEL - GUARD HOUSE,1284 SOUTH RD,CLOVELLY PARK MAP 141 N 11 TG182,FIP GUARD HOUSE WEST GATE ALLAWOONA AVE,,STM401 STM409 CPK411 MFS St Marys 401
1926877 21:08:08 12-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC151 12/01/10 21:07,RESPOND ALARM 33/046,GMH-AUTO LTD,180 PHILIP HWY,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 061 K 9 TG182,FIP MAIN GUARD HOUSE,,ELZ331 ELZ339 SAL321 MFS Elizabeth 339 Response
sounds like co-ordinated motor industry upheavle ;)
Hermitage...lol dont let that driver drive again.
Quote from: Darren on January 12, 2010, 08:22:20 PM
Hmmm, not sure what the SES could do , sounds like a call for TRUCKWORKS :-D
The vehicle was secured by ropes by SES overnight, and from the sound of things there were issues on scene so much so that an SES Commander had to attend.Interesting listening :-D
what sort of issues?.....Incident Control issues...or skill issues?
Quote from: crashndash on January 13, 2010, 07:21:09 AM
what sort of issues?.....Incident Control issues...or skill issues?
08:50:12 13-01-10 GOOD MORNING ALL. FIRST OF 2 MESSAGES. FOR INFORMATION, HERMITAGE 34 IS UNSERVICEABLE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, POSSIBLY UNTIL AFTER WEEKEND. 14 STILL AVAILABLE, SO PLEASE RESPOND TO STATION AS NORMAL - PETER CFS Hermitage Info
1909144 16:44:42 13-01-10 FOR INFO, HERMITAGE 34 HAS RETURNED TO STATION BUT REMAINS UNSERVICEABLE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. 14 STILL AVAILABLE FOR CALLS. THANKS - PETER CFS Hermitage Info
Dare I say it is not as bad as it sound :roll:
1909029 15:46:38 14-01-10 MFS: FROM STRATHALBYN STATION. MILANG 24 IS RQD FOR CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO LANGHORNE CREEK STATION CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909034 15:46:38 14-01-10 MFS: FROM STRATHALBYN STATION. MILANG 24 IS RQD FOR CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO LANGHORNE CREEK STATION CFS Milang Response
1909030 15:45:48 14-01-10 MFS: FROM STRATHALBYN STATION. ASHBOURNE 34 IS RQD FOR CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO STRATH STATION CFS Ashbourne Response
1909029 15:45:46 14-01-10 MFS: FROM STRATHALBYN STATION. ASHBOURNE 34 IS RQD FOR CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO STRATH STATION CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
Here i say, well done!
MFS: *CFSRES INC041 15/01/10 14:21,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CORNER OF TUNG% TUNGKILLO ,TUNGKILLO MAP 0 0 0 TG096,BURNING ON CORNER OF MT TORRENS RD & TUN,GKILLO RD.,SAIR55 MPLT19 SPRG00 BIRD19 MTOR00 PLMR00 INMN00 LOBE42
Eden Valley
Woodside
Lyndoch
Palmer
Thats a decent response for such an isolated area! seems to be a lot of correct things happening this time of the year :)
Mondays inital page was for only Mt Plesant, Operational Improvement booyeh!
Seems they took into account Area Coverage and Crew availablity!
1800181 17:01:49 15-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 15/01/10 17:00,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,10 RAYSON ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 K 10 TG195,RESPOND 2ND ALARM CLAN LAB TG 195 MURRAY,BRIDGE STN,ADL206 CAR041 ADL202 STM409 FOSTER MFS Adelaide 201
1919074 17:01:45 15-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 15/01/10 17:00,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,10 RAYSON ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 K 10 TG195,RESPOND 2ND ALARM CLAN LAB TG 195 MURRAY,BRIDGE STN,ADL206 CAR041 ADL202 STM409 FOSTER MFS Car 41
1800186 17:01:39 15-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 15/01/10 17:00,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,10 RAYSON ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 K 10 TG195,RESPOND 2ND ALARM CLAN LAB TG 195 MURRAY,BRIDGE STN,ADL206 CAR041 ADL202 STM409 FOSTER MFS Adelaide 206
1930428 17:01:26 15-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 15/01/10 17:00,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,10 RAYSON ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 K 10 TG195,RESPOND 2ND ALARM CLAN LAB TG 195 MURRAY,BRIDGE STN,ADL206 CAR041 ADL202 STM409 FOSTER MFS Stn 20
1905655 16:17:26 15-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 15/01/10 16:16,RESPOND Assist Police,10 RAYSON ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 K 10 TG195,CLAN LAB DETECTED BY SAPOL. REQUEST ASSI,ST WITH CHEMICAL CONTROL, ETC.,MBR721 MFS Murray Bridge Response
1905655 16:28:17 15-01-10 NEED ALL AVAILABLE CREW ASAP MFS Murray Bridge Response
1919403 16:30:34 15-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 15/01/10 16:29,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,10 RAYSON ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 K 10 TG195,ASSIST MFS AND SAPOL AT CLAN LAB - PRIOR,ITY 2,MURR28 CFS Murray Bridge Response
mm looks like a fun day in murray bridge!!
hmm....wonder how many hazmat units closer that Adelaide and St Mary's.....BA bus is fair enough....but 1 Pump and a Rescue Pump?.....SACAD where fore art though
Yeah its weird....but its hard to change 150 years of thinking.
1908904 11:18:48 16-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 16/01/10 11:17,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MACCLESFIELD CFS,MACCLESFIELD MAP 0 0 0 TG128,ECHUNGA - MACCY RD - 2 X MOTORCYCLES INV,OLVED - SPILL ONLY - APPROX 4 KM OUT OF,MACCY,MDWS19 MBKR19 MACC00 CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
then
1908904 11:20:07 16-01-10 MFS: MACCY - BE AWARE SAAS ARE SENDING RESCUE 51 - MONITOR GRN 020 CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
then
1908904 11:27:54 16-01-10 MFS: DIN#37 POSSIBLE FATALITY CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
good reason not to asume that spill only is a "nothing" call, as it may be something
I guess from fire service point of view it was a spill only, being motorcycles, but the site for the crews wouldn't be nice.
1908867 11:44:57 16-01-10 CFS: SIG IN FYI: MVA 2 MOTORCYCLES AT MACCLESFIELD TWO FATALITIES - THREE CFS IN ATTENDANCE - SC THOMASON > 16/01/2010 11:44:51 AM CFS R1 HQ Info
Quote from: SA Firey on January 12, 2010, 06:48:01 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC143 12/01/10 20:14,RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY,VERRALL RD,UPPER HERMITAGE MAP 74 D 14 TG098,ASSIST WITH HERMITAGE 34 TRUCK IN DANGER, OF TIPPING OVER AT BOTTOM OF ROAD,TTG020 TTGY19 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
OOPS
Big oops apparently TTG CFS could not get there rescue appliance down to the location (remember Tuesday's heavy rain in the area) so SES had to secure Hermitage 34 in place with ropes till an excavator could assist with the recovery the next day. Thats their second oops rolled their 14 a few years ago!
Quote from: Firey9119 on January 16, 2010, 10:12:03 AM
1908904 11:18:48 16-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 16/01/10 11:17,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MACCLESFIELD CFS,MACCLESFIELD MAP 0 0 0 TG128,ECHUNGA - MACCY RD - 2 X MOTORCYCLES INV,OLVED - SPILL ONLY - APPROX 4 KM OUT OF,MACCY,MDWS19 MBKR19 MACC00 CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
then
1908904 11:20:07 16-01-10 MFS: MACCY - BE AWARE SAAS ARE SENDING RESCUE 51 - MONITOR GRN 020 CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
then
1908904 11:27:54 16-01-10 MFS: DIN#37 POSSIBLE FATALITY CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
good reason not to asume that spill only is a "nothing" call, as it may be something
try being an ambo - our numpty calltakers generally cock it up enough so that cardiac arrests are given out as seizures.....haemmorhage cases are given no mention of the bloke with the knife etc etc...
plus...ias mentioned....it was just a fluid spill...but just nothing that was petroleum based
or forget completely to even respond a crew to a job for 30 mins :-P
17:52:45 19-01-10 Birdwood: Training tonight is with the SACFS QRV and Gum 14. We get to play with them side by side but we also need to be at the station at 1900hrs. BTO 0407793522 CFS Birdwood Info
Anyone know what the SACFS QRV is??
Nissan Prototype
oh thought mite have been the one....anyone know where its goin when finished being played with?
Being used for the Tour Down Under. After that not known.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 19, 2010, 04:43:00 PM
17:52:45 19-01-10 Birdwood: Training tonight is with the SACFS QRV and Gum 14. We get to play with them side by side but we also need to be at the station at 1900hrs. BTO 0407793522 CFS Birdwood Info
Anyone know what the SACFS QRV is??
For the benefit of those who have not seen it yet.
mmmmm wouldn't say no.
anyone seen it? is it similar to the landcruiser batch of QRV'S??
Have seen it, based on the CFA design.
Personally, I like it.
1909800 20:54:20 20-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC083 20/01/10 20:53,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,7 BYRON BAY DR,PARALOWIE MAP 70 F 1 TG182,FIRE IN CEMENT MIXER BOWL,*** CAUTION ROTTWEILERS ON SITE ***,SAIR55 SAL321
What do you use the HP line on first? The fire or the dogs?
Quote from: SA Firey on January 13, 2010, 07:06:30 AM
Quote from: Darren on January 12, 2010, 08:22:20 PM
Hmmm, not sure what the SES could do , sounds like a call for TRUCKWORKS :-D
The vehicle was secured by ropes by SES overnight, and from the sound of things there were issues on scene so much so that an SES Commander had to attend.Interesting listening :-D
There was nothing the driver could have done to avoid the situation. Was a good job of it though. Lucky they all got out ok.
Yeah it was secured overnight and recovered the following day. SES commander didnt come on scene. The only issues were of the appliance further shifting and no close anchor points to secure.
TTG CFS page was for their safety officer (OIC) who wanted to oversee what was happening.
Quote
There was nothing the driver could have done to avoid the situation.
How about not going there in the first place?
Where they there for a fire, or just there for a drive ?
Training night, fire track drive. Monday Night...a bit of rain.. Tuesday night..woopsies
1800160 08:33:41 21-01-10 MFS: Call Sign SEA469 changed to WDV241. N MFS Brooklyn Park 451
1800160 08:32:56 21-01-10 MFS: Call Sign WDV241 changed to SEA469. N MFS Brooklyn Park 451
Looks like its change over time :-)
MFS: *CFSRES INC023 21/01/10 09:47,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,BLAKISTON MAP 161 K 12 TG128,1 POSSIBLY TRAPPED. 2 CARS T-BONE. CORNE,R WITH PRICESS HWY,MBKR19 NAIR00
This shows that lowering a speed limit to 60kmph...and greatly improving the intersection....achieves nothing still.
Sensor driven Traffic Lights with red light camera? and a fixed speed camera? lol...media mike will make heaps of money...
Intersection of Woodside-Nairne Road/Riverview Road, Inverbrakie would be another hot spot for a Ignored Stopsign/Speed camera detector.. (yeah lets invent something new)...
Quote from: Zippy on January 21, 2010, 08:28:31 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC023 21/01/10 09:47,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,BLAKISTON MAP 161 K 12 TG128,1 POSSIBLY TRAPPED. 2 CARS T-BONE. CORNE,R WITH PRICESS HWY,MBKR19 NAIR00
This shows that lowering a speed limit to 60kmph...and greatly improving the intersection....achieves nothing still.
Sensor driven Traffic Lights with red light camera? and a fixed speed camera? lol...media mike will make heaps of money...
Intersection of Woodside-Nairne Road/Riverview Road, Inverbrakie would be another hot spot for a Ignored Stopsign/Speed camera detector.. (yeah lets invent something new)...
10:12:09 21-01-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MOUNT BARKER & NAIRNE CFS ATTENDING INCIDENT AT BLAKISTON, 1 X FATALITY, REFER CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER INFORMATION. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 10:10:54 AM CFS HQ Info
*shakes head* have a look at the concept below...
*now the road will be 40km/h if i get SA government thinking right*
Sam Newman says it right....its the inexperienced/stupid drivers at fault.
May i suggest a monetary fine + a visit from local emergency services representatives.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 21, 2010, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: Zippy on January 21, 2010, 08:28:31 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC023 21/01/10 09:47,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,BLAKISTON MAP 161 K 12 TG128,1 POSSIBLY TRAPPED. 2 CARS T-BONE. CORNE,R WITH PRICESS HWY,MBKR19 NAIR00
This shows that lowering a speed limit to 60kmph...and greatly improving the intersection....achieves nothing still.
Sensor driven Traffic Lights with red light camera? and a fixed speed camera? lol...media mike will make heaps of money...
Intersection of Woodside-Nairne Road/Riverview Road, Inverbrakie would be another hot spot for a Ignored Stopsign/Speed camera detector.. (yeah lets invent something new)...
10:12:09 21-01-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MOUNT BARKER & NAIRNE CFS ATTENDING INCIDENT AT BLAKISTON, 1 X FATALITY, REFER CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER INFORMATION. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 10:10:54 AM CFS HQ Info
Man those Mt barker guys see a lot of road trauma 3rd fatality in the last week...
13:05:13 21-01-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SELF HOSTED DIAL IN TELE-CONFERENCE, FOR REGIONS 1 / 2 / 3, AND STATE HQ, AT 1310 HOURS TODAY. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 1:03:55 PM CFS R3 HQ Info
Talk about short notice!
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MOBILE PHONE OUTAGES WILL BE ONGOING, AFFECTING AUST. WIDE AREAS. OUTAGES WILL ALSO AFFECT AIR-CARDS. NO IMPACT ON GRN AT THIS TIME. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 11:29:50 AM
CFSR5: FYI: GO and DGO's: Mobile Phones outages across several groups, problem is Aust wide. GRN not effected at this time. RO Murray
MENG: MENINGIE STN WILL HAVE NO TELSTRA LANDLINE PHONES DUE TO MAINTENANCE. HOURS EFFECTED ARE 2330 TODAY UNTIL 0630 TOMORROW. GRN PAGING NOT EFFECTED. CONTINGENCY IS MOBILE PHONE USAGE. MENINGIE CAPTAIN.
nothing serious, just a interesting combination of events.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 21, 2010, 11:42:19 AM
13:05:13 21-01-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SELF HOSTED DIAL IN TELE-CONFERENCE, FOR REGIONS 1 / 2 / 3, AND STATE HQ, AT 1310 HOURS TODAY. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 1:03:55 PM CFS R3 HQ Info
Talk about short notice!
This seems very interesting to have happened the same day wendy shirley goes to see the minister....
Quote from: Zippy on January 21, 2010, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 21, 2010, 11:42:19 AM
13:05:13 21-01-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: SELF HOSTED DIAL IN TELE-CONFERENCE, FOR REGIONS 1 / 2 / 3, AND STATE HQ, AT 1310 HOURS TODAY. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 1:03:55 PM CFS R3 HQ Info
Talk about short notice!
This seems very interesting to have happened the same day wendy shirley goes to see the minister....
Yea could be it who knows must be something urgent anyway!
Probably has a lot to do with tomorrow's weather.
And the TDU Community Stage thats happening tomorrow with some 7000 or so cyclists on the roads from Norwood to Goolwa. Could be real interesting if anything happened.
With most Strike Teams assembling at Brukunga for the duration lets hope nothing major happens.
Quote from: SA Firey on January 21, 2010, 07:29:48 PM
With most Strike Teams assembling at Brukunga for the duration lets hope nothing major happens.
Could be a qeaue to ge tout he gate :lol:
and i am working 50 metres from the finish line, sigh...... well lads if theres any big jobs tomorrow have fun :-D
09:27:00 22-01-10 ALL CREW MURRAY BRIDGE IS AT A CaTYSTROPHIC (100+ WINDS) PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF AVALIBLE FOR ALL CALLS MFS Murray Bridge Response
Funny i only make it 62 SEVERE :roll:
Quote from: Zippy on January 21, 2010, 11:46:10 AM
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MOBILE PHONE OUTAGES WILL BE ONGOING, AFFECTING AUST. WIDE AREAS. OUTAGES WILL ALSO AFFECT AIR-CARDS. NO IMPACT ON GRN AT THIS TIME. SC WATTS. > 21/01/2010 11:29:50 AM
CFSR5: FYI: GO and DGO's: Mobile Phones outages across several groups, problem is Aust wide. GRN not effected at this time. RO Murray
MENG: MENINGIE STN WILL HAVE NO TELSTRA LANDLINE PHONES DUE TO MAINTENANCE. HOURS EFFECTED ARE 2330 TODAY UNTIL 0630 TOMORROW. GRN PAGING NOT EFFECTED. CONTINGENCY IS MOBILE PHONE USAGE. MENINGIE CAPTAIN.
nothing serious, just a interesting combination of events.
Ha ha ha. I thought the same thing. Lucky Meningie still had mobile phone coverage, otherwise it would have been the good ol' tin can and string trick. :-P
CFS: *CFRES: FIREBIRD 504 & HELITAK 534 / 574 RELOCATE TO STRATHALBYN SHOWGROUNDS 180DEG 33KMS FROM WAB- SARC CANT > 22/01/2010 10:11:29 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Why would they be heading to the strath showgrounds i wonder?
Quote from: fyreman_16 on January 22, 2010, 12:11:57 PM
CFS: *CFRES: FIREBIRD 504 & HELITAK 534 / 574 RELOCATE TO STRATHALBYN SHOWGROUNDS 180DEG 33KMS FROM WAB- SARC CANT > 22/01/2010 10:11:29 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Why would they be heading to the strath showgrounds i wonder?
Coverage for the TDU I'm guessing...
Now i dont wanna sound like a dumb one (but i can because im a forum recruit), why would you need aircraft coverage for the tour down under?? It doesnt seem like those bicycles are likely to burst into flames anytime soon :-)
Quote from: fyreman_16 on January 22, 2010, 01:46:55 PM
Now i dont wanna sound like a dumb one (but i can because im a forum recruit), why would you need aircraft coverage for the tour down under?? It doesnt seem like those bicycles are likely to burst into flames anytime soon :-)
Just the pure amount of people in one location increases the fire risk. i beleive huge amounts of planning went in to today re having appliances on standby at strategic locations!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 22, 2010, 02:06:57 PM
Just the pure amount of people in one location increases the fire risk. i beleive huge amounts of planning went in to today re having appliances on standby at strategic locations!
Media put this out this morning:
"South Australia?s fire and emergency services personnel will be at a heightened level of response today, Friday 22 January 2010, with Extreme fire danger ratings forecast for the Mount Lofty Ranges, Eastern Eyre Peninsula, Flinders and Yorke Peninsula as well as Catastrophic fire danger ratings forecast for the Murraylands, Mid North and Riverland.
Some of these fire danger ratings will impact parts of the Santos Tour Down Under and the Mutual Community Challenge cycling event. This means an increase risk to the community with cyclists travelling through the Murraylands as well as the Mount Lofty Ranges, from Cudlee Creek through Lenswood, Woodside, Mount Barker, Strathalbyn, Langhorne Creek and Milang, ending up at Goolwa.
Due to the forecast fire danger rating of Extreme for the Mount Lofty Ranges, the CFS has pre-planned fire stations along the route as well as pre-positioned resources, including aircraft, at strategic locations to provide immediate fire coverage. The additional resources are in anticipation of the large crowds expected in the area ? likely to be in excess of 25,000 people.
If you are planning to head to the race as a spectator, or are a resident of one of these areas, please take the following precautions:
- Take extreme care on the roads as there will be traffic congestion and road blocks
- Familiarise yourself with road closures in the area
- Residents in areas of Total Fire Bans should activate your Bushfire Survival Plan.
It is also important to remember that on days of total fire ban:
- The lighting of barbecues is not permitted
- Vehicles should be parked away from high-grass areas, as exhaust pipes can start a fire
- Care should be taken to properly extinguish and dispose of all smoking materials.
Please consider your movement and actions as a spectator or a rider. Ultimately if you do not feel comfortable to enter the area or are concerned about your safety, it may be best not to attend, and to instead watch the Tour from your television at home, or from a safer place.
Stay tuned to ABC or FIVEaa radio for updates on any going incidents. For further information on incidents or bushfire safety, visit the CFS website www.cfs.sa.gov.au or call the Bushfire Information Hotline on 1300 362 361. As always, in the event of an emergency call Triple Zero.
Please enjoy the day, but most importantly, remain safe."
MFS:1: *CFSRES INC070 22/01/10 17:23,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CORNER OF HAMPSTEAD ROAD & WATSON AV,BROADVIEW MAP 106 J 2 TG182,AIR PUMP TAKEN OUT. WATER GOING EVERYWHE,RE AND POSSIBLE LIVE ELECTRICITY... GOOD LUCK MFS Prospect 371
There was a page earlier today about Helitak 733 having to skirt Mt Barker because of noise.
Can anyone shed some more light?? (besides it being loud!)
Quote from: Mike on January 22, 2010, 05:35:11 PM
There was a page earlier today about Helitak 733 having to skirt Mt Barker because of noise.
Can anyone shed some more light?? (besides it being loud!)
Believe it weas due to the funeral for the victims of Mt Pleasants nasty MVA at Williamstown last week.
1909100 17:08:05 22-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 22/01/10 17:06,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CNR GREENOCK RD & SAMUEL RD,NURIOOTPA MAP 0 0 0 TG095,REPOND AT REQUEST OF NURI, AS TANUNDA AT, ANOTHER INCIDENT, 2 CAR MVA,ANGN00 CFS Angaston Group Officers Response
Adelaide fire should know that...
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 23, 2010, 02:06:03 PM
1909100 17:08:05 22-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 22/01/10 17:06,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CNR GREENOCK RD & SAMUEL RD,NURIOOTPA MAP 0 0 0 TG095,REPOND AT REQUEST OF NURI, AS TANUNDA AT, ANOTHER INCIDENT, 2 CAR MVA,ANGN00 CFS Angaston Group Officers Response
Adelaide fire should know that...
Tanunda still had another truck in their shead & did turnout with it....
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 23, 2010, 02:06:03 PM
1909100 17:08:05 22-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 22/01/10 17:06,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CNR GREENOCK RD & SAMUEL RD,NURIOOTPA MAP 0 0 0 TG095,REPOND AT REQUEST OF NURI, AS TANUNDA AT, ANOTHER INCIDENT, 2 CAR MVA,ANGN00 CFS Angaston Group Officers Response
Adelaide fire should know that...
And do what? Turn out an incorrect response then get out asses kicked/criticised for not responding the local brigade? Until the day comes when we all have MCTs so statuses can be monitored, it will always be a response as per the book in the first place unless directed otherwise by locals on ALERTS.
Quote from: fyreman_16 on January 22, 2010, 01:46:55 PM
Now i dont wanna sound like a dumb one (but i can because im a forum recruit), why would you need aircraft coverage for the tour down under?? It doesnt seem like those bicycles are likely to burst into flames anytime soon :-)
Quote from: CFS_Firey on January 22, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: fyreman_16 on January 22, 2010, 12:11:57 PM
CFS: *CFRES: FIREBIRD 504 & HELITAK 534 / 574 RELOCATE TO STRATHALBYN SHOWGROUNDS 180DEG 33KMS FROM WAB- SARC CANT > 22/01/2010 10:11:29 AM CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Why would they be heading to the strath showgrounds i wonder?
Coverage for the TDU I'm guessing...
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 22, 2010, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: fyreman_16 on January 22, 2010, 01:46:55 PM
Now i dont wanna sound like a dumb one (but i can because im a forum recruit), why would you need aircraft coverage for the tour down under?? It doesnt seem like those bicycles are likely to burst into flames anytime soon :-)
Just the pure amount of people in one location increases the fire risk. i beleive huge amounts of planning went in to today re having appliances on standby at strategic locations!
Aircraft deployment has always been dynamic based on FDIs. Its not as common for them to wander out of the MLRPRZ [strath beign just outside], although they do go to hoyleton regularly. But if the FDIs are higher in the north area of the zone aircraft are normally moved to mt crawford, FDIs high south area of the zone, aircraft moved to cherry gdns.
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 25/01/10 08:14,RESPOND RCR,3 CARS & TREE OVER ROAD FORRESTON RD,FORRESTON MAP 77 Q 7 TG098,BETWEEN FORRESTON & WARREN RD,WLLM19 FORR00
Ouch!!!
1800174 18:21:20 25-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC054 25/01/10 18:20,RESPOND Assist SAAS,69 TORRENS RD,BROMPTON MAP 105 L 11 TG182,MAN IMPALED ON FENCE,PPT371 ADL204 CAR041 MFS Prospect 371
No, this is OUCH :-P
1800133 00:44:25 26-01-10 CFS: TEST TEST TEST *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580 / 584 RESPOND GRASS FIRE , BASKET RANGE, 272 DEGREES, 12 KMS FROM WAB. INC NO 1234 TEST TEST TEST > 26/01/2010 12:44:15 AM
CFS Staff ??
1910913 00:40:07 26-01-10 CFS: TEST RESPOND GRASS FIRE LOBETHAL ROAD BASKET RANGE TEST > 26/01/2010 12:39:57 AM
UNKNOWN
somebody's having a quiet nightshift lol
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC077 25/01/10 23:02,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,MILNER RD,RICHMOND MAP 117 J 15 TG182,GROUNDS OF WEST ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB,SAIR55 BPK451
MFS Brooklan Park 451
then suddenly...
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC077 25/01/10 23:14,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,MILNER RD,RICHMOND MAP 117 J 15 TG182,CONFIRMED FIRE AT WEST ADELAIDE FOOTBALL, CLUB,ADL206 SEARCY
MFS Adelaide 206
ahhh, beware the old just another rubbish fire....
twice in a night
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 26/01/10 01:20,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SHOALHAVEN CCT,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 F 7 TG102,,SLSB19 SAIR55 SAL329
MFS: CFSRES SALISBURY THIS IS BELEIVED TO BE A HOUSE FIRE NOW
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 26/01/10 01:45,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,SHOALHAVEN CCT,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 F 7 TG102,ASSIST SALISBURY CFS,DALK19
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 26/01/10 01:51,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,SHOALHAVEN CCT,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 F 7 TG102,ASSIST DALKEITH AND SALISBURY,TTGY19 VIRG19
* CFSRES* ALL AVAILABLE BA OPERATORS RESPOND TO STATION FOR 2ND ALARM STRUCTURE FIRE
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 26/01/10 01:57,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,SHOALHAVEN CCT,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 F 7 TG102,,ADL206 ADL205 CAR031
MFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP: DIN 5 house fire CFS area. 1 MFS FF injured and being assessed by SAAS
CREW REQUIRED FOR LOGISTICS RUN TO STRUCTURE FIRE MAWSON LAKES. REPORT TO STATION ASAP
ANY AVAILABLE CREW PLS ATTEND STATION ASAP FOR CHANGE OVER AT STRUCTURE FIRE FROM CAPTAIN
Good morning. Any crew who did not attend last evening are asked to make themselves available for any calls today to enable last nights crews to rest. Regards Captain.
MFS:1: *CFSRES INC038 26/01/10 14:27,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,SALISBURY RECREATION PRECINCT, WATERLOO CORNER RD,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 60 H 10 TG182,YOUNG CHILD WITH ARM STUCK IN POOL FILTR,ATION SYSTEM. P1,SAL329 NAD020 SES Edinburgh Response
then a little later....
MFS: *CFSRES INC040 26/01/10 14:56,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,34 WAROOKA CR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 F 15 TG182,CHILD WITH LEG STUCK IN BICYCLE,BETWEEN PEDAL AND FRAME,P1,ELZ339 NAD020 ELZ331 SES Edinburgh Response
hmmm, i have never seen a rescue like this paged before, let alone two within half an hour.....even though they were both stop called...
Quote from: Zippy on January 25, 2010, 07:00:52 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 25/01/10 08:14,RESPOND RCR,3 CARS & TREE OVER ROAD FORRESTON RD,FORRESTON MAP 77 Q 7 TG098,BETWEEN FORRESTON & WARREN RD,WLLM19 FORR00
Ouch!!!
Turned out to nothing much really,which is a great relief after the last nasty one out that way. Small tree down on rd 3 cars with some panel work needed.
14:56:57 27-01-10 CFS: YOU ARE REQ. IN HQ ASAP!!! MULTIPLE LIGHTNING STRIKES KI AND LEP - CONFIRM > 27/01/2010 2:56:47 PM
Quote from: Zippy on January 27, 2010, 01:33:49 PM
14:56:57 27-01-10 CFS: YOU ARE REQ. IN HQ ASAP!!! MULTIPLE LIGHTNING STRIKES KI AND LEP - CONFIRM > 27/01/2010 2:56:47 PM
its a fair band of lightning 8-)
1930428 09:47:29 29-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC035 29/01/10 09:47,RESPOND ALARM 13/165,CANNON STREET LODGE,11-15 CANNON ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 M 8 TG182,FIP ENTRY CANNON ST 100M NTH OF FRANKLIN,,ADL201 BURN19 MFS Stn 20
1908871 09:46:27 29-01-10 MFS: CFSRES CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 30 CFS Athelstone Response
heh, doesnt take much for the white trucks to roll in town...
Quote from: Zippy on January 29, 2010, 04:46:57 PM
heh, doesnt take much for the white trucks to roll in town...
seems fair, 1/2 of the red trucks were in CFS area. :|
11:56:23 30-01-10 Waik Info: Waikerie Lt 2 would u like speedway assistance from Hayman Island fire and rescue LOL Hi everyone TODD CFS Waikerie Info
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 30/01/10 13:24,RESPOND Tree Down,3 RUSHLEA RD,EDEN VALLEY MAP 0 0 0 TG096,BLOCKING MAJORITY OF RD. ONKA SES WILL NOT BE ATTENDING,EDNV00
RDO? Big Night Out?
nah...since its Lobethal CFS/SES...they auto-default to nearest cfs brigade.
It's a waste of volunteer time and diesel...
wow....interesting....just as well their surrounding brigades don't decided to play the same game....poor old public would get the short end of the pointy stick....
Doesn't it come down to common sense - send the nearest & most appropriate resource - something that has been discussed at length on this (and other) forums, and with what appears to be widespread agreement that on all levels, nearest & most appropriate resource be sent!
Pip
Like I have said before, Onkaparinga SES only exist in name, they did it for the extra gear that CFS won't provide them.
They don't respond like the SES, they define SES areas just like we define brigade areas. The only time they go anywhere else is if they need the gear from Lobethal, who turn out as the CFS anyway !! :-D
The Eden Valley captain actually came up on air just after the page went to the SES and advised that the tree down was only a couple of hundred metre's from the CFS station and that it would be quicker for Eden Valley to be responded than the SES to come 30-40 km's. Smarter/better use of resources I think........
My point exactly :-D
Pip
Quote from: Zippy on January 29, 2010, 04:46:57 PM
heh, doesnt take much for the white trucks to roll in town...
obviously not......
03:11:28 31-01-10 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 43 CFS Morphett Vale Response
04:04:17 31-01-10 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 42 CFS Happy Valley Response
05:06:30 31-01-10 MFS: *CFRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 40 CFS Eden Hills Response
Quote1924962 14:24:09 31-01-10 B601 CatB Beachouse Entertainment Centre . Colley Tce, Glenelg 140 E3
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
Any ideas who / what this resource is....??????
Bicycle Response Unit mebbe
yes, B601 is the bike response unit.
They work friday and saturday night in the city. And Sundays at Glenelg (and surroundings)
Many thanks for the replies..
Cheers
Shane
1908981 17:48:54 31-01-10 AS FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT MFS WILL TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE NEW RESPONSE AREA SIGNED LT1 CFS Seaford Info
13:30:33 02-02-10 DONVS: short Bridage meeting this sunday 0900hrs to 0930hrs to discuss possible group name change. Thanks Roger B. CFS Donovans Info
Congratulations to Josh and Kim on the arrival of their new Baby Boy, Logan Dean Jeffree.3.14kgs. We wish you guys all the best for the future with your new baby. Dalk Capt and brigade. CFS Dalkeith Info
20:27:18 02-02-10 DANIEL BENJAMIN GLOYN ARRIVED AT 1800 HOURS TODAY. 7 POUND 12. MUM DAD AND BUB ALL DOING WELL. UNCLE STEVE CFS Eden Hills Info
Congratulations guys another Cadet each :-)
April 09 was a quiet month......
Must have been, here is another Cadet for Salisbury
CONGRATULATIONS TO SERINA AND ROLF ON THE BIRTH OF LACHLAN DAVID ON THE 2ND AT 0919 HOURS. CFS Salisbury Info
Congratulations guys :-)
Boredmatrix continues to be right ;)
So...Virginia or TTG next??
1909148 17:49:51 04-02-10 COULD THE PERSON WHO IS QUESTIONING THE CAPTAINS DECISION ON THE DRIVER OF THE QRV LAST NIGHT PLEASE CALL HIM CFS Paracombe Info
oh dear.....a very public way to air your dirty laundery :|
Quote from: crashndash on February 04, 2010, 09:01:04 PM
oh dear.....a very public way to air your dirty laundery :|
The trend is looking "downhill"...so we have to expect this sorta stuff to happen more regularly and to more brigades.
Quote from: Zippy on February 05, 2010, 05:55:24 AM
The trend is looking "downhill"...so we have to expect this sorta stuff to happen more regularly and to more brigades.
can you explain what you mean?
(and what "sorta stuff" are you referring to? lack of people management skills?)
Quote from: Darius on February 05, 2010, 07:38:03 AM
Quote from: Zippy on February 05, 2010, 05:55:24 AM
The trend is looking "downhill"...so we have to expect this sorta stuff to happen more regularly and to more brigades.
can you explain what you mean?
(and what "sorta stuff" are you referring to? lack of people management skills?)
Nah mate, but your spot on, its all about personailities..
MFS: 409 IS TO REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR CBR MFS St Marys 409
hmm...?
Wllm 24p returned to station, for information speedo NOT fixed continue to use gps for speed. Going back again on monday. Lee THANKS : BAROSSA CONTROL 5/02/2010 10:48:57 AM CFS Williamstown Info
Probably more accurate anyway :-D
Dodgyyyyyy
11:46:01 05-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC031 05/02/10 11:43,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CARRICKALINGA ,CARRICKALINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG144,FORK TREE RD 2 KM UP RD FROM NORMANVILLE, END,SAIR55 YANK19 CFS State Air Desk
11:48:50 05-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC031 05/02/10 11:46,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CARRICKALINGA ,CARRICKALINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG144,GRASS FIRE ON FORK TREE RD CARRICKALINGA,SAIR55 INMN00 HAYF00 MYPN00 RAPD00 CFS State Air Desk
11:58:09 05-02-10 CFS: *CFSRES: FIREBIRD 504, BOMBERS 580/582 AND AIR CREW, RESPOND GRASS FIRE, CARRICKALINGA, 225 DEGREES, 72 KMS FROM WAB. INC NO 881319 > 5/02/2010 11:56:01 AM CFS State Air Desk
12:02:10 05-02-10 R1HQ: CFSRES: CAPE JERVIS RESPOND TO SECOND VALLEY AIRSTRIP FOR IMMEDIATE BOMBER SUPPORT 05/02/2010 11:59:25 PM CFS Cape Jervis Response
Talk about taking a belting down that way lately
"Seaford 24P" ONLINE and ready to respond. Reminder 24 is still first rural response appliance. - SEAFORD STATION
Is the Dennis in for repairs?
Quote from: safireservice on February 06, 2010, 12:26:55 PM
"Seaford 24P" ONLINE and ready to respond. Reminder 24 is still first rural response appliance. - SEAFORD STATION
Is the Dennis in for repairs?
Sure is....
Whats wrong with it this time?
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 06, 2010, 09:10:14 PM
Whats wrong with it this time?
Windscreen vs Seagull I hear
MFS:1: CFSRES INC086 06/02/10 23:21,RESPOND RCR,CNR BAGSTER RD & LANGFORD TCE,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 C 12 TG182,TRAIN V CAR. CAR NOW APPROX 800M NORTH O,F LEVEL CROSSING AT ABOVE ADDRESS.,SLSB19 SAL321 ADL204 SAL329 CFS Salisbury Response
This job is not sounding good :-(
Another bad week for Para Group, Tea Tree Gully had a car on fire with a fatality now Salisbury with a horrible train crash!
Quote from: BundyBear on February 06, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
Another bad week for Para Group, Tea Tree Gully had a car on fire with a fatality now Salisbury with a horrible train crash!
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/train-hits-4wd-at-salisbury-north/story-e6frea6u-1225827472349
THE occupants of a four-wheel-drive that stalled on a northern suburbs rail crossing last night fled the vehicle just before it was hit by a train.
Police said the incident happened on a level crossing on Bagsters Rd at Salisbury North about 11.15pm and that no on had been hurt. They said the train had dragged the vehicle about 800m from the point of impact.
Phew that was close :-o
Quote from: SA Firey on February 06, 2010, 10:20:36 PM
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 06, 2010, 09:10:14 PM
Whats wrong with it this time?
Windscreen vs Seagull I hear
Wow, they must of been hookin along for a seagull to cause enough damage for the applaince to be offline
They have had their share of windscreens at Seaford over the years, and the Dennis has seen its share of windscreens since coming to Australia...
Dennis design fault maybe?
or a realy hard seagul
australian seagulls much tougher than the UK variety
MFS: CFSRES INC080 07/02/10 22:21,RESPOND RCR,5KM WEST OF SWANPORT BRIDGE ON PRINCES HWY,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 F 12 TG206,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER WITH ENTRAPMENT., SUSPECT OCCUPANT MAY HAVE EXPIRED.,MRB029 MURR00 TLEM19 SES Murray Bridge
Thats not a very nice way of putting it...
not trying to sound cold but how else are you ment to say it!
Use the conference call number's (note, no longer alerts) to alert officers to the fact that its a possible fatality?
Just say it, the days of hush hush are over, then everyone knows what to expect.
Isnt 'possible fatality' more appropriate than 'occupant may have expired'
Just a thought
they all mean the same thing in the long run.
last night was a bad night for the whole country for those jobs.
Lets just hope that everyone has a safe year!
person unresponsive would be the best way to put it unless a trained person has called it in as a confiremd fatality
I've seen "Unconscious entrapment" used a fair bit, consistency would be nice...SACAD God comes to save the day.
Speed camera on Main Rd near vet CFS Coromandel Valley Info
Now no speeding to the station boys :-D
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 08, 2010, 04:34:24 PM
Speed camera on Main Rd near vet CFS Coromandel Valley Info
Now no speeding to the station boys :-D
pretty inappropriate use of the paging system i would have thought
Quote from: Zippy on February 08, 2010, 02:04:38 PM
I've seen "Unconscious entrapment" used a fair bit, consistency would be nice...SACAD God comes to save the day.
"Appears to have snuffed it" perhaps.
SACAD was on MYTHBUSTERS the other night the conclusion.......BUSTED!
Quote from: crashndash on February 08, 2010, 10:30:54 PM
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 08, 2010, 04:34:24 PM
Speed camera on Main Rd near vet CFS Coromandel Valley Info
Now no speeding to the station boys :-D
pretty inappropriate use of the paging system i would have thought
after callouts, next best use of it IMO!
Quote from: jaff on February 08, 2010, 11:07:28 PM
Quote from: Zippy on February 08, 2010, 02:04:38 PM
I've seen "Unconscious entrapment" used a fair bit, consistency would be nice...SACAD God comes to save the day.
"Appears to have snuffed it" perhaps.
SACAD was on MYTHBUSTERS the other night the conclusion.......BUSTED!
Haha, Its the government emergency services Bluff ;)
QuoteMFS: CFSRES INC041 09/02/10 14:42,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PHILLIS ST,MAYLANDS MAP 119 D 3 TG182,FROM SAAS - SPILL ONLY,BLP211
then
QuoteMFS: CFSRES INC041 09/02/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PHILLIS ST,MAYLANDS MAP 119 D 3 TG182,BACK UP 211,ADL204
then
QuoteMFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP: DIN41 RCR Confirmed Entrapment Maylands
oops....the old sneaky Spill Only again...lol
1909193 12:45:33 09-02-10 DALEKEITH PLUMBER WILL BE OFFLINE FOR 2 HOURS FIXING ELECTRICAL PROBLEM. CFS Dalkeith Info
13:55:52 10-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC041 10/02/10 13:53,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PORT WAKEFIELD CFS,PORT WAKEFIELD MAP 0 0 0 TG104,REIGNITION AT PROOF RANGE,SAIR55 PTWK19 CFS Wakefield Plains Group Officers Response
I reckon i would be gettin fair filtered by now if i was Pt Wakefield...
Tanunda 34P has returned to sation after attending grass fire Hanish Road Tanunda. Kamikaze Possum strikes again. 10/02/2010 1:23:57 PM CFS Tanunda Info
Hey, kamikaze possum??
Quote1924962 15:52:47 12-02-10 MV71 CatB Cnr Hahn Rd, Aldinga 227 P1
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
a few more resources dispatched in between, and then...
Quote1924962 16:58:08 12-02-10 N70 CatB Cnr Hahn Rd, Aldinga 227 P1
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
I realise that there are many possibilities....
Quote1925609 08:08:55 13-02-10 F74 CHANGE OF PLANS - PLS HEAD TO CAMPBELLTOWN STATION TO COLLECT PARTNER BUT DON'T GO INSIDE COZ ITS A GREEN STATION
SAAS Unit Fulham
Is the operator having a laugh..??? alternatively, what does a "
GREEN" station mean...????
Quote from: straps on February 13, 2010, 06:48:05 AM
Quote1925609 08:08:55 13-02-10 F74 CHANGE OF PLANS - PLS HEAD TO CAMPBELLTOWN STATION TO COLLECT PARTNER BUT DON'T GO INSIDE COZ ITS A GREEN STATION
SAAS Unit Fulham
Is the operator having a laugh..??? alternatively, what does a "GREEN" station mean...????
Quite possibly relating to the Uniform debacle, Green may be back...
Have seen some of the new greens at a mates place.... could it relate to the stations all starting to under go a thorough cleaning?
Correct Big Al...Stations are undergoing a final clean, and then the new green uniforms will be rolled out.
I notice ambulances have been staying at Paradise MFS station for a few days, while the Campbelltown Station was cleaned....
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on February 13, 2010, 08:51:42 AM
Correct Big Al...Stations are undergoing a final clean, and then the new green uniforms will be rolled out.
I notice ambulances have been staying at Paradise MFS station for a few days, while the Campbelltown Station was cleaned....
Pip
This may be a stupid question but how are ambulances allowed to be stationed at MFS stations, where im from this is a big no no and would never happen without a union having a look first.
Quote from: nswfb239 on February 13, 2010, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Pipster on February 13, 2010, 08:51:42 AM
Correct Big Al...Stations are undergoing a final clean, and then the new green uniforms will be rolled out.
I notice ambulances have been staying at Paradise MFS station for a few days, while the Campbelltown Station was cleaned....
Pip
This may be a stupid question but how are ambulances allowed to be stationed at MFS stations, where im from this is a big no no and would never happen without a union having a look first.
Good old Luck on our side mate...
Since there are a number of joint MFS / SAAS station, around the state, I presume the answer is yes!!!
Pip
21:21:09 13-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC069 13/02/10 21:18,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,60 ASHFIELD RD,ELIZABETH MAP 62 A 1 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331
21:26:39 13-02-10 MFS: PERSON REPORTED IT FROM 60, SAPOL NOTIFIED, PERSON HAS SEEN KIDS STARTING THESE FIRES MFS Elizabeth 331
21:34:39 13-02-10 MFS: KIDS ARE RELIGHTING YOUR EXTINGUISHED FIRES MFS Elizabeth 331
If you squirt the kids with the hose you have extinguished the fires and the problem... :evil:
21:45:03 13-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC071 13/02/10 21:42,RESPOND To,2 BRANSTON AV,DEVON PARK MAP 105 M 11 TG182,WATER TAP WILL NOT TURNOFF, NOT FLOODING,ADL202 MFS Adelaide 201
Do you think they went priority one to this? :lol:
Yes, its MFS remember
1908998 21:20:59 13-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC070 13/02/10 21:19,RESPOND RCR,IRON KNOB CFS,IRON KNOB MAP 0 0 0 TG068,PORT AUGUSTA TO WHYALLA RD 15KMS FROM TH,E TANKS B - TRIPPLE ROLL OVER NO ENTRAPM,ENTS,STRL19 IRKB00
CFS Stirling response
1908991 21:20:57 13-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC070 13/02/10 21:19,RESPOND RCR,IRON KNOB CFS,IRON KNOB MAP 0 0 0 TG068,PORT AUGUSTA TO WHYALLA RD 15KMS FROM TH,E TANKS B - TRIPPLE ROLL OVER NO ENTRAPM,ENTS,STRL19 IRKB00
CFS Lofty Group Officers response
oop's a bit far away :-o
then we get
1919205 21:31:02 13-02-10 MFS: E INC. 070 CALL FROM SAPOL. ALOT OF DIESEL,ON THE ROAD
CFS Iron Knob response
1919203 21:31:02 13-02-10 MFS: E INC. 070 CALL FROM SAPOL. ALOT OF DIESEL,ON THE ROAD
CFS Flinders Group Officers response
how much diseal did you say
1919205 21:56:05 13-02-10 MFS: ROM SAPOL, TRUCK WAS CARRYING 14,000LITRES OF DIESEL
CFS Iron Knob response
1919203 21:56:05 13-02-10 MFS: ROM SAPOL, TRUCK WAS CARRYING 14,000LITRES OF DIESEL
CFS Flinders Group Officers response
another quiet evening
in regards to the green uniform for saas, stations that have been cleaned can not be entered by personal from "dirty" stations, all clean saas building should have a green papper strip on all points of entry to the station.
the new green uniform should be on the streets in the next few months. my partner has received his and it looks good I'm just waiting on mine.
recently a riverland crew had to spend several weeks in a MFS station cause theirs was condemned after it flooded a few times.
cheers
Quote from: Baxter on February 13, 2010, 09:54:55 PM
1908998 21:20:59 13-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC070 13/02/10 21:19,RESPOND RCR,IRON KNOB CFS,IRON KNOB MAP 0 0 0 TG068,PORT AUGUSTA TO WHYALLA RD 15KMS FROM TH,E TANKS B - TRIPPLE ROLL OVER NO ENTRAPM,ENTS,STRL19 IRKB00
CFS Stirling response
1908991 21:20:57 13-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC070 13/02/10 21:19,RESPOND RCR,IRON KNOB CFS,IRON KNOB MAP 0 0 0 TG068,PORT AUGUSTA TO WHYALLA RD 15KMS FROM TH,E TANKS B - TRIPPLE ROLL OVER NO ENTRAPM,ENTS,STRL19 IRKB00
CFS Lofty Group Officers response
oop's a bit far away :-o
then we get
1919205 21:31:02 13-02-10 MFS: E INC. 070 CALL FROM SAPOL. ALOT OF DIESEL,ON THE ROAD
CFS Iron Knob response
1919203 21:31:02 13-02-10 MFS: E INC. 070 CALL FROM SAPOL. ALOT OF DIESEL,ON THE ROAD
CFS Flinders Group Officers response
how much diseal did you say
1919205 21:56:05 13-02-10 MFS: ROM SAPOL, TRUCK WAS CARRYING 14,000LITRES OF DIESEL
CFS Iron Knob response
1919203 21:56:05 13-02-10 MFS: ROM SAPOL, TRUCK WAS CARRYING 14,000LITRES OF DIESEL
CFS Flinders Group Officers response
another quiet evening
If the B Triple was carrying diesel, it must have only spilt a small amount of fuel, since only one trailer normally carries more than 14,000 litres, let alone two B trailers & an A!
Pip
a B Triplw consists of 2 A trailers and a B trailer... The two A trailers could have been taut liners and the B trailer a tanker. Bit of work for Iron knob and Stirling North!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 14, 2010, 08:46:58 AM
a B Triplw consists of 2 A trailers and a B trailer... The two A trailers could have been taut liners and the B trailer a tanker. Bit of work for Iron knob and Stirling North!
Whoops, that's what I meant..... 2 A's & a B :-D
Pip
1908049 16:12:59 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC063 14/02/10 16:09,RESPOND Tree Down,77 KINGS RD,SALISBURY DOWNS MAP 70 L 7,RON 82859410. VERY LARGE TREE ON FOOTPAT,H AND BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS. P4,NAD020 SES Edinburgh Response
What type of response is regarded as priority 4?
19:39:55 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC082 14/02/10 19:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CLONLEA PARK,MURRAY RD,WILLASTON MAP 23 M 2 TG182,ENTER MURRAY STREET,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
19:49:15 14-02-10 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 14-02-10 19:46 CFS Concordia Response
20:19:44 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC086 14/02/10 20:16,RESPOND Tree Down,RIGHT BY THE PHONE BOX ON ROSEDALE RD,ROSEDALE MAP 321 H 8 TG096,TREE ON CARAVAN. DIA 30CM. CALLER MANION, - 8524 9132. P3.,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
What would they do here seeing that it is fairly large fire they are attending and they only have one truck?
Hazmat206 P4 for us is non urgent non life threat, tree has hit the ground, damage done, area is safe. A lot of p4's involve telling the person involved to find a contractor or cutting one or two branches to provide access then the rest is for the owner to clean up.
fyreman_16 i'm pretty sure that they don't stack jobs for the cfs trucks only ses units, so i'd assume that the first job was finished
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 14, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
19:39:55 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC082 14/02/10 19:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CLONLEA PARK,MURRAY RD,WILLASTON MAP 23 M 2 TG182,ENTER MURRAY STREET,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
19:49:15 14-02-10 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 14-02-10 19:46 CFS Concordia Response
20:19:44 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC086 14/02/10 20:16,RESPOND Tree Down,RIGHT BY THE PHONE BOX ON ROSEDALE RD,ROSEDALE MAP 321 H 8 TG096,TREE ON CARAVAN. DIA 30CM. CALLER MANION, - 8524 9132. P3.,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
What would they do here seeing that it is fairly large fire they are attending and they only have one truck?
lyndoch still had 34P being crewed up for a response to gawler so maybe they would have sent them inplace of concordia as the fire was a higher priority
Quote from: allouthere on February 14, 2010, 10:51:35 PM
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 14, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
19:39:55 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC082 14/02/10 19:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,CLONLEA PARK,MURRAY RD,WILLASTON MAP 23 M 2 TG182,ENTER MURRAY STREET,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
19:49:15 14-02-10 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 14-02-10 19:46 CFS Concordia Response
20:19:44 14-02-10 MFS: CFSRES INC086 14/02/10 20:16,RESPOND Tree Down,RIGHT BY THE PHONE BOX ON ROSEDALE RD,ROSEDALE MAP 321 H 8 TG096,TREE ON CARAVAN. DIA 30CM. CALLER MANION, - 8524 9132. P3.,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
What would they do here seeing that it is fairly large fire they are attending and they only have one truck?
lyndoch still had 34P being crewed up for a response to gawler so maybe they would have sent them inplace of concordia as the fire was a higher priority
Lyndoch 34p were being sent for asset protection.
It would appear it didn't get seen to yesterday, otherwise there would be no need for this page.
MFS: CFSRES INC055 15/02/10 15:22,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT 32 ROSEDALE RD,ROSEDALE MAP 321 H 8 TG096,PH MRS MANION ON 85249 132 RE BRANCH DOW,N ON CARAVAN APPROX 150MM DIAM P3,CONC00 CFS Concordia Response
All done now thou.
19:58:49 15-02-10 REMINDER; Group Meeting Tuesday, 16th February at One Tree Hill commencing at 7.30p.m. Reports required. Dress uniform please. Pam Para Admin. CFS Para Group Info
Dress uniform??
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 15, 2010, 06:35:33 PM
19:58:49 15-02-10 REMINDER; Group Meeting Tuesday, 16th February at One Tree Hill commencing at 7.30p.m. Reports required. Dress uniform please. Pam Para Admin. CFS Para Group Info
Dress uniform??
Yeah im guessing theres still an ounce of tradition about the place, i wouldnt mind seeing a bit of that around the place in my neighbourhood...guess we're australian's tho :P
03:49:12 17-02-10 SGB: STIRLING CORO AND CHERRY RESPOND INC009 GRASS FIRE,UPPER STURT RD,HAWTHORNDENE MAP 155 D 1 TG146,OPPOSITE GOLF CLUB RESPONDING WITH BLACKWOOD AND UPPER STURT ASSETS UNDER THREAT *CFSRES: 3:46:32 AM CFS Cherry Gardens Response
04:00:58 17-02-10 SGB: LOFTY TANKER RESPOND INC009 GRASS FIRE,UPPER STURT RD, UPPER STURT MAP 155 D 1 TG146, CORNER OF FOOTS HILL RD *CFSRES: 3:58:21 AM CFS Bradbury Response
Why is it that Sturt group just cannot follow procedure like every one else...SGB lives on...
Yeah its a bit strange, they dont even use TG124 to call mobile to incidents...
Once ya start doing strange procedures to Non-Sturt Group brigades... High level of confusion is a Risk...
but ey...what they do is what they do...
Nice development by adelaide fire: "BELR01" is the Belair Response + Sirens... good stuff!!
Keeping all CRD in a centralised format is where CFS should be heading...Hail SACAD.. lol
Quote from: Zippy on February 17, 2010, 06:46:21 AM
Yeah its a bit strange, they dont even use TG124 to call mobile to incidents...
Once ya start doing strange procedures to Non-Sturt Group brigades... High level of confusion is a Risk...
but ey...what they do is what they do...
Nice development by adelaide fire: "BELR01" is the Belair Response + Sirens... good stuff!!
Keeping all CRD in a centralised format is where CFS should be heading...Hail SACAD.. lol
I think what you are seeing is the new (informal) arrangement between Sturt, Lofty, Mawson (maybe) and Heyson (maybe) to rapidly turn out what they need and then worry about the formalities later.
Their base responds to the page on TG124 and then runs the incident including extra resources, its just a different way of operating......has fors and againsts, but it works for them, and I've always found them pretty on the ball to work with, or respond into their area.....so if its not broke, dont worry about it
First our group has heard of it...spose its no different to someone hitting the decoder box
07:55:02 17-02-10 MFS:*CFSRES (Happy Valley) RESPOND (vehicle accident), (flagstaff rd Flagstaff Hill), (car vs pole clean up required) CFS Happy Valley Response
09:22:05 17-02-10 MFS:*CFSRES DUBLIN RESPOND ASSIST SAAS, 52 PRIME ST, PT PARHAM, PATIENT LIFT, PRIORITY 2 CFS Dublin Response
09:51:28 17-02-10 CFSRES MORPHETT VALE RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE WIRREANDA HIGH SCHOOL, RICHARDS DR, MORPHETT VALE - WITH MFS CFS Morphett Vale Response
10:22:52 17-02-10 MFS; REPOND INC 029- SCHOOL FIRE XAVIER COLLAGE KENTISH RD GAWLER BELT. *CFSRES: CFS Roseworthy Response
whats the go with way the pager messages are written today? seem fairly different or is it just me
The modem in MFS Comms gave up and paging was being done via Link :wink:
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I think what you are seeing is the new (informal) arrangement between Sturt, Lofty, Mawson (maybe) and Heyson (maybe) to rapidly turn out what they need and then worry about the formalities later.
Their base responds to the page on TG124 and then runs the incident including extra resources, its just a different way of operating......has fors and againsts, but it works for them, and I've always found them pretty on the ball to work with, or respond into their area.....so if its not broke, dont worry about it
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Worry about formalities later, what a royal commission,isn't the whole point of one CRD centre to eliminate people doing their own things, by turning out their own resources then no one knows what resources have been deployed or the status of brigade resources because it has not been dispatched and noted on the system? Imagine one day if there was multiple jobs on and they said let's respond stirling to another grass fire, oh sorry sturt group sent them out a while back, should Adelaide fire be made to ring the sturt base every time they turn a job out to make sure they haven;t already got it at something else?
yes Bronto you're right....and u can then sit and wait for Region to approve more resources or wave the last copy of the Old Testament to the East, or whatever the hell else they do.....of course, Adelaide Fire will know whats going on cos they check in on 124, and monitor other TGs, but hey, dont let the facts get in the way of an emotive argument will you
Didnt say it was perfect, said it worked for them......from what I saw on TV tonight, looked like a fair save given the ground and the size of the job (and that a few Brigades had been dragged down the hill partially to another earlier fire. Havent heard anyone mention that they might have actually saved some stuff with the screwed up, non standard approach........but hey, I'm sure theres something else u can bitch about in that too
Quote from: crashndash on February 17, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
Adelaide Fire will know whats going on cos they check in on 124, and monitor other TGs, but hey, dont let the facts get in the way of an emotive argument will you
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Sorry, but Adelaide Fire wont know whats going on when we have resources booking mobile that as far as we are aware havent been responded. And re local TGs, Adelaide Fire dont monitor them.
Personal opinion, all brigade responses should be through Adelaide Fire for consistency and for the log [as BOMS pushes the records into AIRS of turnout times/resources/etc] and also so that comcen actually knows what is happening with statewide resources.
14:24:49 18-02-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MFS HAVING BOMS TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, CRD BEING UNDERTAKEN MANUALLY, SOME DELAYS MAY BE EXPECTED, REFER CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER INFO - SC WATTS > 18/02/2010 2:22:24 PM
ha typical...a full 30+ hours...
17:28:37 18-02-10 MFS: HAPPY VALLEY - PLEASE IGNORE RESPONSE PAGE TO FOLLOW - TESTING SYSTEM THANKS CFS Happy Valley Response
17:28:45 18-02-10 MFS: HAPPY VALLEY - THANKS FOR YOUR HELP - NORMAL DISPATCH BACK ON LINE CFS Happy Valley response
17:36:35 18-02-10 MFS: SENIOR OFFICER GROUP: THE PAGING PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED BY THE MFS ELECTRONICS DEPARTMENT TECH MFS Car 31
Good boys :-D
Considering their 'real-life' occupations, it's also possible that the Sturt
GOs are intimately familiar with the pros & cons of MFS dispatch systems & have
(and/or had) good reasons for doing it <ahem> 'differently'.
One day, all Groups will be like Sturt Group... :-D / :evil:
<chanting> All hail, O Great SACAD...
:ROFL:
ANY CREW AVAILABLE @ AROUND 1130 TO ASSIST POLICE WITH SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING CALL ME ASAP ON 0429672223 DONT CALL IF U CANT COME CFS Booleroo Info
HMMM
just following on from the Sturt Group job in Upper Sturt the other night, saw an interesting media grab from one of the firefighters at the scene, who is also a Staff member in town. Very foolish comments, and hardly a professional image. I didnt think random firefighters were supposed to speak to the media?
Can't imagine the Chief or any of the deputies would be too happy with him.....
seems to be a bit of a talking point lately..Does he/she have their volunteer hat on or did they just have their staff hat on?
:-D
Quote from: Darren on February 19, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
We wouldn't have a clue who has responded and who is being responded direct.
Wouldnt you just look at your PDW up there and that would tell you?
Quote from: safireservice on February 19, 2010, 08:22:46 PM
Quote from: Darren on February 19, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
We wouldn't have a clue who has responded and who is being responded direct.
Wouldnt you just look at your PDW up there and that would tell you?
Exactly the same as the guys out in scanner jockey land, nothing like that should be taken as gospel. Besides, PDWs arent reliable for that sort of thing.
As i said before should be centralised. If your just gonna hit a button on the decoder that responds your neighbour with a pre-canned msg, then all good. But i think if your going to send a 'customised' response msg for that job, then it might as well be from the right people.
out of curiosity....
MFS Comms has capacity to mark appliances already dispatched using response message on Regional TG.
By what process are they re-marked available again?
Out of service / back in service?
cheers
Quote from: Alan J on February 20, 2010, 08:58:24 PM
out of curiosity....
MFS Comms has capacity to mark appliances already dispatched using response message on Regional TG.
By what process are they re-marked available again?
Out of service / back in service?
cheers
They dont have a process. Its up to the individual group/brigade to "knock back/default" incidents as they come up. Meaning...incidents will continue to be thrown at brigades till they say something like "no".
Alan, brigades & trucks are never put 'on jobs' as such. If we get a call we send it out to the brigade whos area it is, regardless of whether they are already on a job, its then there responsibility to organise attendance.
We can however take brigades out of the system, eg if a single appliance station is getting the truck serviced...
CRNG: REMINDER , RADIO TESTING COMMENCING AT 1930HRS TONIGHT ,JABUK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU, FROM COONALPYN COMMS Coorong Group Info
Looks like Jabuk arn't regulars on the radio training... :wink:
Quote from: Alex on February 20, 2010, 10:01:28 PM
Alan, brigades & trucks are never put 'on jobs' as such. If we get a call we send it out to the brigade whos area it is, regardless of whether they are already on a job, its then there responsibility to organise attendance.
We can however take brigades out of the system, eg if a single appliance station is getting the truck serviced...
So in other words, resources aren't really being "tracked" on turn-outs.
Not actively, anyway. The info isn't being used in Wakefield St to amend
responses to subsequent turn-outs.
Each Group/Brigade must do its own real-world resource tracking.
Therefore the only "benefit" of reporting in to Ad-Fire appliance-by-appliance
is a tape recording of the response message, versus the time-stamped call
record in the GRN for all other transmissions.
Therefore Sturt's process of the Group Duty Officer taking ownership of the
call and managing it from 1st page, is merely actively working ahead of an
otherwise passive system, designed for brigades which don't have active Group
support & participation.
Therefore it doesn't matter a tinker's cuss whether a group base responds
its own resources or goes through Adelaide Fire. Nobody outside the group
(or brigade) officially knows or even cares about the resources (ex-CFS Ad-Fire
people excepted!!).
Thanks & cheers.
love your work Al....lmao :lol:
12:13:53 26-02-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 26/02/10 12:13,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,ADELAIDE-LOBETHAL RD,FOREST RANGE MAP 123 A 15 TG140,LOBY SIDE OF DEVIATION/MAWSON RD INTERSE,CTION 2 CARS SPILL ONLY,LOBE19 LENS00
12:21:39 26-02-10 more crew required ,driver,only 1 person turned up 26/02/2010 12:21:09 PM
CFS Lobethal Info
12:24:07 26-02-10 Loby rescue delayed more crew required no driver as yet 26/02/2010 12:23:34 PM
Perhaps good time to default??? Get another brigade on the road?? :roll:
Quote from: Alan J on February 25, 2010, 08:56:06 PM
So in other words, resources aren't really being "tracked" on turn-outs.
Not actively, anyway. The info isn't being used in Wakefield St to amend
responses to subsequent turn-outs.
Not quite... I probly didn't word my previous post properly. Resources are 'tracked' as far as ensuring they ack/mobile either on radio or phone and this time is kept.
However it does not influence further responses for the same zones.
QuoteSo in other words, resources aren't really being "tracked" on turnouts.
Not actively, anyway. The info isn't being used in Wakefield St to amend
responses to subsequent turnouts.
While Adelaide Fire may or may not track resources, and I'll leave that comment up to people like Alex who work there, If units book mobile via Adelaide fire at least those managing incidents can see on CRIIMSON what is acknowledged and mobile rather than guessing what has responded. With more and more groups being trained in CRIIMSON it would be good for everyone to use the same system so we can all see what's going on and if things escalate we have good information to work with rather than guess work.
15:39:05 28-02-10 CFS: *CFSRES: FIREBIRD 504, RESCUE 53, BOMBERS 580/584, RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BLEWITT SPRINGS, 229 DEGREES, 35 KMS FROM WAB. INC NO 883595 > 28/02/2010 3:38:53 P?3 SAFECOM Media Group
Thats a new one
16:52:15 28-02-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC170 28/02/10 16:51,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BLEWITT SPRINGS ,BLEWITT SPRINGS MAP 0 0 0 TG134,2ND GRASS FIRE NEAR DOUGLASS SCRUB. APPR,OX 300M FROM PREVIOUS FIRE SAIR55 BLEW00 MCLF00 MCLV00
Sus much?
Quote from: fyreman_16 on February 28, 2010, 03:50:45 PM
16:52:15 28-02-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC170 28/02/10 16:51,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,BLEWITT SPRINGS ,BLEWITT SPRINGS MAP 0 0 0 TG134,2ND GRASS FIRE NEAR DOUGLASS SCRUB. APPR,OX 300M FROM PREVIOUS FIRE SAIR55 BLEW00 MCLF00 MCLV00
Sus much?
Ya might say that ey 8-) Strike teams rolling tot his one might have gotten away
MFS: *CFSRES INC175 28/02/10 17:30,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROGERS RD,SELLICKS HILL MAP 227 Q 5 TG132,AS RESULT OF POWER LINE DOWN,SAIR55 SELL00 ALDB19 WLLG00 CFS State Air Desk
oooppp there at the douglas scrub fire :-o
they still had their other trucks, they don't take all their trucks on a strike team.
1800167 23:33:18 28-02-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC215 28/02/10 23:32,RESPOND Assist Resident,25A WILLOWOOD DR,URRBRAE MAP 131 G 13 TG182,LARGE BROLLY FLAYING IN THE WIND,GLO441 MFS Glen Osmond 441 :roll:
1906658 15:44:52 01-03-10 MOUNT GAMBIER SES FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED COME AND TEST DRIVE THE NEW VEHICLE TONIGHT AND TOMORROW NIGHT SES Mt Gambier Response
I seen this truck this morning driving around Mount Gambier :-o
was that the new transit that they are looking at issuing?
Yup it was the new ford transit Andrew alot smaller style vehicle than the trucks they have
suposedly its supposed to replace the light rescues but i'm hearing rumours now that a number of units with the older trucks will get them as well in place of a truck which will be a pain as we have troule fitting the gear we need on the trucks let alone on that thing
19:55:50 05-03-10 STURT INFO: BLACKWOOD STATION SIREN WILL BE TESTED SHORTLY AT THE REQUEST OF THE BRIGADE. TESTING OF OTHER SIRENS NOT OCCURRING DUE TO NOISE COMPLAINTS. GCO CFS Sturt Group Info
These are the people that say they weren't given any warnings when the BIG ONE hits :?
Jeff, there also the people that make a dozen panicked phone calls to the bushfire hotline every time someone 'tests' a siren or sets it off for a tree down or VA.
In all seriousness, is there actually any need to test it weekly?
Well if its anything like our siren it needs testing every week as it seizes up with lack of use, mainly due to only being used for grass fires these days.
Maybe a media campaign saying on friday night at this time might help, but you will never win.
G'day Darren
Do you think front page plus a two page spread in the Messenger, trumpeting
victory over an uncaring CFS for Good Of The People would count as media coverage??
What about quotes from group stating that they would be tested each Friday
night at 7:30pm ?
Let's face it - there are people who choose ignorance & cherish it as a
badge of pride.
Well there you go, can't help ignorant people.
1908084 12:03:18 07-03-10 INFO DEPLOYMENT TO VICTORIA IS LEAVING TODAY OR TOMORROW BACK WEDNESDAY PLEASE PHONE MATHEW IF ABLE TO ATTEND SES Sturt Info
Is it that bad? :-o
From what i read on a vic pager site 5000 task completed 2000 outstanding and still reciveing 100 tasks per hour as we speak. Vic SES have 30 interstate teams heading in to help from SA and NSW.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on March 07, 2010, 02:00:59 PM
1908084 12:03:18 07-03-10 INFO DEPLOYMENT TO VICTORIA IS LEAVING TODAY OR TOMORROW BACK WEDNESDAY PLEASE PHONE MATHEW IF ABLE TO ATTEND SES Sturt Info
Is it that bad? :-o
Roadcone Roadtrip! :-D
Quote from: piriejono on March 07, 2010, 02:05:57 PM
From what i read on a vic pager site 5000 task completed 2000 outstanding and still reciveing 100 tasks per hour as we speak. Vic SES have 30 interstate teams heading in to help from SA and NSW.
And meanwhile, the CFA in the same area aren't called out..... :|
Pip
Come on Pip, leave the poor SES alone, if it wasn't for them we would have to attend to all these crappy jobs.
And then I'd be cold in winter time, cos I would have to pay for fire wood I can get for free on the roads!!! :-D
1919074 17:30:30 08-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC083 08/03/10 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTH EASTERN FWY,LEAWOOD GARDENS MAP 132 C 13 TG136,IN TUNNEL OUTWARD BOUND,BURN19 GLO441 STRL19 CAR041 MFS Car 41
1919074 17:35:44 08-03-10 MFS: FROM LOFTY GROUP OFFICER STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 083 MFS Car 41
11:52:13 09-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 09/03/10 11:51,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,SOUTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 C 16 TG182,IN PARKLANDS OPP ST ANDREWS HOSPITAL -,NO REFLECTIVE TYPE PERSONS HAVE LIT,A CAMP FIRE - FROM POLICE,SAIR55 ADL201 MFS Stn 20
"NO REFLECTIVE TYPE PERSONS" :?....... :evil:.... :wink:... :-D, BUT SHOULD YOU SAY THAT?
MFS: *CFSRES INC046 09/03/10 17:43,RESPOND Assist Resident,27 KONANDA CR,MUNNO PARA MAP 42 J 8 TG182,ASSIST RESIDENT IN A WHEEL CHAIR,STUCK IN THE TOILET,ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331
MFS: *CFSRES INC011 11/03/10 09:20,RESPOND Assist SAAS,107 COLLINS ST,BROADVIEW MAP 106 K 1 TG182,PRIORITY 1 MAN TRAPPED BEHIND TOILET DOO,R,PPT371 MFS Prospect 371
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC066 11/03/10 22:28,RESPOND Assist Resident,* **** LANE,WAYVILLE MAP 130 C 3 TG182,PERSON LOCKED IN BATHROOM,ADL204 MFS Adelaide 204
Its an epidemic...
1908904 10:50:41 15-03-10 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC027 15/03/10 10:49,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ANNIES LANE, ROCKLEIGH ,ROCKLEIGH MAP 000 0 0 TG128,ANNIES LANE RUNS OFF OF PANICKENS HILL R,D WHICH IS OFF OF CRITCHLEY ROAD....,GOOD LUCK,LTHT42 SAIR55 BRUK00 CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
meanwhile it turns out to be a 3rd/4thish alarm grass fire....
Quote from: Zippy on March 15, 2010, 10:20:54 AM
meanwhile it turns out to be a 3rd/4thish alarm grass fire....
Since it should have been probably swanport groups in the first place, it may have not have got raised at all. Palmer, Callington & Monarto would have been better choices rather than Nairne/ Brukunga. All's good in hindsight.
Bad info from caller or bad info in what ever is used to dispatch which brigades.
Quote from: vsteve01 on March 15, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: Zippy on March 15, 2010, 10:20:54 AM
meanwhile it turns out to be a 3rd/4thish alarm grass fire....
Since it should have been probably swanport groups in the first place, it may have not have got raised at all. Palmer, Callington & Monarto would have been better choices rather than Nairne/ Brukunga. All's good in hindsight.
Bad info from caller or bad info in what ever is used to dispatch which brigades.
Interesting that the operator knew it was on PANICANS HILL RD...and has ready access to oziexplorer/google maps...
Monarto should have been the primary brigade from the resulting maps.
Perhaps a Monarto, Callington, Nairne, Murray Bridge, Jervios (BWC) response.
12:47:09 18-03-10 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC037 18/03/10 12:46,RESPOND CONFINED SPACE,10 ALDRIN CR,MODBURY NORTH MAP 84 C 14 TG182,ELECTRICIAN WORKING ON INSULATION IN ROO,F. LIGHTS HAVE GONE OUT AND NO RESPONSE,FROM PERSON,TTGY19 TTG020 SDO CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
that doesnt sound too good
And a stop call was issued not very much later...the Sparky had apparently got out of the roof, and was isolating power elsewhere, and hence didn't hear the home owner calling!!
Pip
03:11:20 20-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 20/03/10 03:10,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,1 VICTORIA ST,MANNUM MAP 0 0 0 TG207,CAR V TREE - 4 YOUTHS HAVE ABSCONDED -,FROM SAPOL - MESS NO 344,MNNM19 CFS Mannum Response
Interesting terminology......absconded
Quote from: fyreman_16 on March 20, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
03:11:20 20-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 20/03/10 03:10,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,1 VICTORIA ST,MANNUM MAP 0 0 0 TG207,CAR V TREE - 4 YOUTHS HAVE ABSCONDED -,FROM SAPOL - MESS NO 344,MNNM19 CFS Mannum Response
Interesting terminology......absconded
Not really..... easier than saying they ran off
18:09:43 20-03-10 MRPH INFO: UNBELIEVABLE !!!! THE TOTAL COLLECTED TODAY WAS $8108.70 - AMAZING EFFORT BY ALL THOSE INVOLVED - WELL DONE YOU DID THE MORPHETT VALE BRIGADE PROUD - MATT CFS Morphett Vale Info
:-o
1918593 18:56:45 21-03-10 Message Only: Port Augusta 511 is now the lead appliance. The Volvo is now Port Augusta 519. All crew to familiarise equipment location. Use CAUTION when driving. S/O McNamee MFS Pt Augusta Response
When did they have a volvo?
They don't, its the west coast spare, live's out the back of PT Augusta station, obviously the Scania needs some work done.
The Volvo has been in whyalla for the last few months as a spare they are keeping it there now in a shed. I think Pt Augusta's scania has some problems with its pump leaking
Ok it's moved again then, we have it on record at work as 5171.
yeah been in whyalla for a while now as a spare and bak up cause whyalla closest bak up is Pt Augusta so another pump in whyalla is good its running as 5271
1908901 12:58:18 25-03-10 Pt Elliot 34 has been defected and will no longer be used. To be returned to station and required equipment removed. J. Manley to organise truck to be re-stationed. Captain CFS Port Elliot Info :-o
tires are a little bald i believe (amongst other things) and a new appliance on the way off the new build so i guess not worth putting new ones on.
Busy last 24 hours...
20:04:33 24-03-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MAWSON & STURT GROUPS AND MULTIPLE MFS & DEH RESOURCES ATTENDING A GRASS FIRE IN THE STURT GORGE REC PARK - 3RD ALARM REFER TO CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER DETAILS > 24/03/2010 8:04:15 PM
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: 2ND ACETYLENE CYLINDER LOCATED AT THE BASKET RANGE INCIDENT - ACETYLENE MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE - CREWS WILL BE ON SCENE FOR SOME TIME - REFER TO CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER DETAILS - SC WATTS > 24/03/2010 8:10:33 PM
MFS: SIG INC: FYI INC 064 WEST ST BROMPTON 2ND ALARM B RISK 3 STOREY PREMISES VACANT 30M X 20M COVERING EXPOSURES
MFS: *CFSRES INC001 25/03/10 00:14,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ADJ 66 ADDISON RD,PENNINGTON MAP 92 J 12 TG182,PERSON REPORTED,ADL206 CAR031 WDV243 WDV249 HOWARD
09:56:26 25-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC028 25/03/10 09:55,RESPOND RCR,MAIN RD,BLACKWOOD MAP 154 P 5 TG146,CORNER OF SHEPARDS HILL. VAN ROLL OVER,1 PERSON TRAPPED,BKWD19 EDNH00
11:02:20 25-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC032 25/03/10 11:01,RESPOND RCR,GUNDA RD,BANKSIA PARK MAP 85 K 5 TG182,CAR V TREE 1 X ENTRAPMENT,TTGY19 GGV311 SAL329
MFS: *CFSRES INC043 25/03/10 12:36,RESPOND RCR,GAWLER-ONE TREE HI RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 E 3 TG102,CNR ULEY RD. HEAD ON. PERSONS TRAPPED,DALK19 OTHL00
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: B DOUBLE PRIME MOVER FIRE UP TRACK OF FREEWAY, $250,000 DAMAGE FREEWAY PARTIALLY BLOCKED MULTIPLE CFS AND MFS APPLIANCES ON SCENE REFER CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER INFO - SC EDEN
MFS: *CFSRES INC050 25/03/10 13:58,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,4/148 EDWARD ST,CLARENCE GARDENS MAP 141 N 2 TG182,PERSON REPORTED INSIDE. AUTO SECOND ALAR,M,AD2011 CPK411 HOWARD
Quote from: Zippy on March 25, 2010, 01:24:43 PM
Busy last 24 hours...
20:04:33 24-03-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MAWSON & STURT GROUPS AND MULTIPLE MFS & DEH RESOURCES ATTENDING A GRASS FIRE IN THE STURT GORGE REC PARK - 3RD ALARM REFER TO CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER DETAILS > 24/03/2010 8:04:15 PM
Contained to half hectare i beleive....
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on March 25, 2010, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: Zippy on March 25, 2010, 01:24:43 PM
Busy last 24 hours...
20:04:33 24-03-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MAWSON & STURT GROUPS AND MULTIPLE MFS & DEH RESOURCES ATTENDING A GRASS FIRE IN THE STURT GORGE REC PARK - 3RD ALARM REFER TO CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER DETAILS > 24/03/2010 8:04:15 PM
Contained to half hectare i beleive....
yeah bit different to flatland tho..
1800174 13:40:17 26-03-10 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION,321 TO STN 36,371 TO STN 30,292 TO STN 37 MFS Prospect 371
1800174 13:40:17 26-03-10 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION,321 TO STN 36,371 TO STN 30,292 TO STN 37 MFS Prospect 371
Bit of a typo..Should have been 202
1800178 09:08:20 27-03-10 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC020 27/03/10 09:07,RESPOND ALARM 40/207,ESPLANADE HOTEL,135A ESPLANADE,BRIGHTON MAP 152 F 4 TG182,ALARM STATUS IS OFFLINE,LINE OPEN AND PRIORITY 2,RESPOND PRIORITY 1. IGNORE OFF LINE AND,PRIORITY 2.,OHH421 STM401 STM409
:? :? :?
Quote from: Jase! on March 27, 2010, 10:06:53 AM
1800178 09:08:20 27-03-10 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC020 27/03/10 09:07,RESPOND ALARM 40/207,ESPLANADE HOTEL,135A ESPLANADE,BRIGHTON MAP 152 F 4 TG182,ALARM STATUS IS OFFLINE,LINE OPEN AND PRIORITY 2,RESPOND PRIORITY 1. IGNORE OFF LINE AND,PRIORITY 2.,OHH421 STM401 STM409
:? :? :?
Most likely the Offline P2 part is an automated message...
Quote from: brenjoe on March 25, 2010, 11:32:24 AM
1908901 12:58:18 25-03-10 Pt Elliot 34 has been defected and will no longer be used. To be returned to station and required equipment removed. J. Manley to organise truck to be re-stationed. Captain CFS Port Elliot Info :-o
tires are a little bald i believe (amongst other things) and a new appliance on the way off the new build so i guess not worth putting new ones on.
This is very sad.
What price do you place on a volunteer let alone Joe blow public?
Just because you know you are in line for a new appliance, doesn't mean you let the maintenance lapse.
A big kick in the backside to the Region, Group and Brigade involved.
So much for annual servicing :?.
Maybe CFS need to employ Transport SA to inspect CFS appliances bi-annually to keep all involved honest.
Hair
There is probably a lot more to the story than what i have said and what has been on the pager site.
20:53:13 29-03-10 SW5mbyBvbmx5LiBDb3JvIHJlc3BvbmQsIG12YSwgd2V5bW91dGggcmQsIGNvcm9tYW5kZWwgZWFz dC4gKmNmc3Jlcw0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnmuIHNtYXJ0cGhvbmUgb24gMw== CFS Coromandel Valley Info
LOFT MGT: From Upst Capt: Upst QRV now online 30/3/2010 14:18:11 CFS Lofty Group Management
The old 12 has finally met it's day and replaced :-(
1926877 11:04:15 30-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 30/03/10 11:02,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,STEBONHEATH RD,DAVOREN PARK MAP 41 M 16 TG182,CNR OF WOMMA CLEAN UP ONLY,ELZ339 MFS Elizabeth 339 Response
1918493 11:22:50 30-03-10 MFS: SNR OFF GRP:331/339 & DO J STEELE ATTENDING RCR CNR WOMMA RD & STEBONHEATH RD, ELIZ WEST. CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENT MFS Car 31
1928011 21:40:28 31-03-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC063 31/03/10 21:39,RESPOND STORM DAMAGE,83 WILLISON RD,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 61 K 5,P4 WATER THRU CIELING IVY ,NAD020 SES Central Region
what storm? :-o
1800173 07:08:00 01-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC017 01/04/10 07:07,RESPOND Gas Domestic,56 SANSOM RD,SEMAPHORE PARK MAP 91 H 11 TG182,GAS BOTTL ON BUILD SITE NEXT TO THIS ADD,RESS,PAD251 MFS Port Adelaide 251
1918493 06:42:05 01-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 01/04/10 06:40,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,NORTHBRI AV,SALISBURY EAST MAP 71 J 16 TG182,OUTSIDE FOODLAND,SAL329 CAR031 ADL206 SAL321 ELZ331 MFS Car 31
1919074 06:22:18 01-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 01/04/10 06:21,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,CONNOR AV,WOODVILLE SOUTH MAP 104 L 11 TG182,QEH GAS LEAK WHERE GAS ENTERS HOSPITAL,WDV249 CAR041 ADL206 WDV243 BPK451 MFS Car 41
Gas season!
21:45:32 02-04-10 MP181 CatB Walkers Flat Rd, Mount Pleasant SAAS Road Crash Research
22:31:04 02-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC059 02/04/10 22:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,CAR V'S TREE, NIL ENTRAPMENTS, SAPOL,ON SCENE. WALKERFLAT RD EAST OF MT,PLEASANT,MPLT19 CFS Mount Pleasant Response
Why so long to respond the fire service?
Quote from: fyreman_16 on April 03, 2010, 09:36:56 AM
21:45:32 02-04-10 MP181 CatB Walkers Flat Rd, Mount Pleasant SAAS Road Crash Research
22:31:04 02-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC059 02/04/10 22:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,CAR V'S TREE, NIL ENTRAPMENTS, SAPOL,ON SCENE. WALKERFLAT RD EAST OF MT,PLEASANT,MPLT19 CFS Mount Pleasant Response
Why so long to respond the fire service?
SOP :evil:
1907845 16:30:28 06-04-10 ASE in TEST at AWD SYSTEMS CTR & RATTHEON SYSTEMS, 39 VEITCH ROAD; ASE in TEST at GLOUCESTER AGED CARE FACILITY, 25 ROOPENA STREET; ASE in TEST at SAMFS PORT LINCOLN, ; CFS/Romteck WFAM/Firemon
Is this at the new station?
18:24:55 08-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 08/04/10 18:23,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,670 BURBRIDGE RD,WEST BEACH MAP 116 B 16 TG182,PERSON REPORTED SIEGE SITUATION,ADL206 WDV243 WDV249 MFS Adelaide 206
18:34:04 08-04-10 MFS: SNR OFF GRP:2ND ALARM RESPONSE TO PERSONS REPORTED SEIGE SITUATION AT 670 BURBRIDGE RD, WEST BEACH, K77 ARRIVAL MFS Car 41
Dont see that every day
Quote from: fyreman_16 on April 08, 2010, 06:19:35 PM
18:24:55 08-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 08/04/10 18:23,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,670 BURBRIDGE RD,WEST BEACH MAP 116 B 16 TG182,PERSON REPORTED SIEGE SITUATION,ADL206 WDV243 WDV249 MFS Adelaide 206
18:34:04 08-04-10 MFS: SNR OFF GRP:2ND ALARM RESPONSE TO PERSONS REPORTED SEIGE SITUATION AT 670 BURBRIDGE RD, WEST BEACH, K77 ARRIVAL MFS Car 41
Dont see that every day
A MAN has surrendered to police and been taken to hospital after reports of a siege and fire at a West Beach unit.
Reports of fire at the Burbridge Rd property appear to be unfounded.
21:32:19 08-04-10 CMNS: DUE TO POOR RESPONSE WE STILL NEED CREW FOR SUNDAYS AIR SHOW. COME ON MEMBERS WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION TO THE COMMUNITY. PLEASE ADVISE YOUR AVAILABILITY IF NOT ALREADY DONE SO. CAPT. 8/04/2010 9:31:17 PM CFS Cummins Info
Jeez....
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 06, 2010, 08:19:54 PM
1907845 16:30:28 06-04-10 ASE in TEST at AWD SYSTEMS CTR & RATTHEON SYSTEMS, 39 VEITCH ROAD; ASE in TEST at GLOUCESTER AGED CARE FACILITY, 25 ROOPENA STREET; ASE in TEST at SAMFS PORT LINCOLN, ; CFS/Romteck WFAM/Firemon
Is this at the new station?
Yeah won't be long now, doing all the comms installs and alarms etc
15:09:07 09-04-10 CFS: AS OF 1700 TODAY ALL CFS AIRCRAFT WILL BE STOOD DOWN & FDI INFO WILL NOT BE PAGED - ON BEHALF OF AVIATION SERVICES & THE STATE AIR DESK WELL DONE ON THE OUTSTANDING WORK ACHIEVED BY ALL INVOLVED IN AIR OPS FOR THE 09/10 FDS. CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Escaped "THE BIG ONE" again :-)
MFS: *CFSRES INC026 10/04/10 11:24,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,177 GLEN OSMOND RD,FREWVILLE MAP 131 B 5 TG182,CAR INTO FOODLAND. VEHICLE NOW IN FRUIT,AND VEG SECTION. NO PERSONS TRAPPED.,EAS020 ADL204 GLO441
Vehicles these days seem not happy enough to just hit the wall and sit still....nup...they have to go in about 10-20 metres into the building
Quote from: Zippy on April 10, 2010, 11:05:54 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC026 10/04/10 11:24,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,177 GLEN OSMOND RD,FREWVILLE MAP 131 B 5 TG182,CAR INTO FOODLAND. VEHICLE NOW IN FRUIT,AND VEG SECTION. NO PERSONS TRAPPED.,EAS020 ADL204 GLO441
Vehicles these days seem not happy enough to just hit the wall and sit still....nup...they have to go in about 10-20 metres into the building
The announcement over the PA would have been Classic for that one "Clean up ailes 1,2,3 and fruit and veg"
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 11/04/10 11:07,RESPOND To,DARWIN ST,GLENELG NORTH MAP 140 H 2 TG182,GIRL STUCK IN PLAYGROUND SWING SEAT. PRI,ORITY 1. PARKINSON RESERVE,CPK411 MFS Camden Park 411
MFS: *CFSRES INC062 11/04/10 17:59,RESPOND Assist Resident,PEACHEY RD,DAVOREN PARK MAP 51 N 5 TG182,IN PARK OPPOSITE PLAYFORD TAVERN YOUNG,CHILD STUCK IN SWING,ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331
Just wondering if anyone has any info on this?
MFS: *CFSRES INC046 14/04/10 15:27,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GRAND JUNCTION RD & WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,2 CAR MVA CLEANUP,TTGY19 OAK301 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
The question is why are TTG being responded to this when it's clearly well into MFS area (Just over a kilometre from Oakden station). I have also noticed in recent weeks them being responded to Holden Hill.
Surely BOMS isnt that much up the scheiße to be suggesting a CFS response to these areas?
My Guess would be closes rescue truck?? Mfs may have been busy?? Next closes resourse??? So many reasons............................................
1800174 08:34:54 15-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/04/10 08:34,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CNR PROSPECT RD & REGENCY RD,PROSPECT MAP 106 A 4 TG182,2 X CAR MVA FROM SAPOL SPILL ONLY,PPT371 MFS Prospect 371
1930428 08:37:24 15-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/04/10 08:36,RESPOND RCR,CNR PROSPECT RD & REGENCY RD,PROSPECT MAP 106 A 4 TG182,POSSILBE ENTRAPMENT 2 X CAR MVA,ADL204 MFS Stn 20
1918493 08:44:15 15-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/04/10 08:43,RESPOND RCR,CNR PROSPECT RD & REGENCY RD,PROSPECT MAP 106 A 4 TG182,2 X CAR MVA 1 X CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENT,CAR031 MFS Car 31
:roll: SAPOL
Quote from: safireservice on April 14, 2010, 05:21:33 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any info on this?
MFS: *CFSRES INC046 14/04/10 15:27,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GRAND JUNCTION RD & WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,2 CAR MVA CLEANUP,TTGY19 OAK301 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
The question is why are TTG being responded to this when it's clearly well into MFS area (Just over a kilometre from Oakden station). I have also noticed in recent weeks them being responded to Holden Hill.
Surely BOMS isnt that much up the filtered to be suggesting a CFS response to these areas?
It has been fixed.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 15, 2010, 10:25:08 AM
1800174 08:34:54 15-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/04/10 08:34,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CNR PROSPECT RD & REGENCY RD,PROSPECT MAP 106 A 4 TG182,2 X CAR MVA FROM SAPOL SPILL ONLY,PPT371 MFS Prospect 371
1930428 08:37:24 15-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/04/10 08:36,RESPOND RCR,CNR PROSPECT RD & REGENCY RD,PROSPECT MAP 106 A 4 TG182,POSSILBE ENTRAPMENT 2 X CAR MVA,ADL204 MFS Stn 20
1918493 08:44:15 15-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/04/10 08:43,RESPOND RCR,CNR PROSPECT RD & REGENCY RD,PROSPECT MAP 106 A 4 TG182,2 X CAR MVA 1 X CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENT,CAR031 MFS Car 31
:roll: SAPOL
That could have been the information that SAPOL received from a member of the public. Maybe when the patrol arrived or more people called in providing information, the truth was found.
Just some thoughts rather than sarcasm on another service. :roll:
1800170 10:38:33 16-04-10 MFS: NOT REQUIRED AT STN 30 ANY MORE - RTN TOSTN 30 MFS Oakden 301
1800178 16:48:55 18-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 18/04/10 16:48,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN NORTH RD,TEMPLERS MAP 0 A 0 TG100,JUST NORTH OF TEMPLERS,173 FREE00 MFS St Marys 409
From the CFA:
@@ALERT F100409508 MILD1 G&SC1 MASSIVE UNDEFINED FIRE AT END OF IRYMPLE AVENUE DOWN BY THE RIVER IRYMPLE AV NICHOLS POINT SVNW 8260 J11 (127144) IRYM MILD [IRYM]
I guess that would get your attention.
05:13:23 23-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC009 23/04/10 05:13,RESPOND Smoke in Area,127 MAGILL RD,STEPNEY MAP 119 A 6 TG182,CNR OF ANN ST,SAIR55 BLP211 MFS Beulah Park 211
10 minutes later
05:23:51 23-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 23/04/10 05:23,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,127 MAGILL RD,STEPNEY MAP 119 A 6 TG182,,ADL205 AD2016 AD2090 AD2011 ADL202 ADL204 STOTTC AD2015 031 MFS Stn 20
05:30:59 23-04-10 SECOND ALARM COMMERCIAL PREMS - ANN ST STEPNEY. MAP 119 B4 - K99 MFS Car 31
1929425 08:00:17 23-04-10 *CFSRES: WEEKLY SIREN TEST BELAIR, BLACKWOOD, COROMANDEL VALLEY AND EDEN HILLS *CFSRES: CFS Sturt Siren (Coromandel Valley Station)
1929428 08:00:17 23-04-10 *CFSRES: WEEKLY SIREN TEST BELAIR, BLACKWOOD, COROMANDEL VALLEY AND EDEN HILLS *CFSRES: CFS Sturt Siren (Eden Hills Station)
1929430 08:00:17 23-04-10 *CFSRES: WEEKLY SIREN TEST BELAIR, BLACKWOOD, COROMAN CFS Sturt Siren (Waite St Blackwood)
1929415 08:00:15 23-04-10 *CFSRES: WEEKLY SIREN TEST BELAIR, BLACKWOOD, COROMANDEL VALLEY AND EDEN HILLS *CFSRES: CFS Sturt Siren (Blackwood Station)
1929423 08:00:15 23-04-10 *CFSRES: WEEKLY SIREN TEST BELAIR, BLACKWOOD, COROMANDEL VALLEY AND EDEN HILLS *CFSRES: CFS Sturt Siren (Mrytle Rd Hawthorndene)
1800068 08:00:13 23-04-10 *CFSRES: WEEKLY SIREN TEST BELAIR, BLACKWOOD, COROMANDEL VALLEY AND EDEN HILLS *CFSRES: CFS Sturt Siren (Belair)
Do Sturt have a new way of triggering sirens? or is this the normal testing with a new name?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 19, 2010, 06:27:05 AM
1800178 16:48:55 18-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 18/04/10 16:48,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN NORTH RD,TEMPLERS MAP 0 A 0 TG100,JUST NORTH OF TEMPLERS,173 FREE00 MFS St Marys 409
That's weird, it seems somehow they have put the fleet number of St Mary's 409 (who are running a spare pump/rescue) in the turnout section which has meant that 409 got turned out....how they managed that god only knows !!
1800164 11:27:54 24-04-10 MFS: PLEASE RETURN TO ADEL STN MFS Elizabeth 331
1800164 11:29:03 24-04-10 MFS: BECAUSE YOU ARE REQ, PLS RETURN TO 20 MFS Elizabeth 331
331 not happy????
1800164 11:38:07 24-04-10 MFS: 331 - GO HOME, THANKS GUYS MFS Elizabeth 331
1800164 11:39:43 24-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC028 24/04/10 11:39,RESPOND ALARM 10/016,ST MARKS COLLEGE INC,KERMODE ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 P 13 TG182,FIP AREA PANEL GATEHOUSE,,ELZ331 ADL204 AD2011 MFS Elizabeth 331
No wonder :-P Go home, come back, go home, oh respond to an alarm!
In the space of 12 minutes
Thats why there paid the big bucks.
MFS: CAN YOU RUN FAST ENOUGH TO CATCH YOUR DOG RUNNING DOWN THE BEACH? MFS St Marys 401
MFS: YEP. HAVING A NICE MORNING OUT THERE? MFS St Marys 401
1908973 12:43:20 25-04-10 RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,1 DESMOND RD,HACKHAM MAP 186 N 13 TG182,BACK YARD BURN - PEOPLE THROWING AEROSOL,CANS INTO FIRE - CAUSING EXPLOSIONS -,FROM SAPOL,CDN431 MRPH00 SAIR55 CFS Morphett Vale Response
1800162 16:07:50 25-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 25/04/10 16:07,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,1 DESMOND RD,HACKHAM MAP 186 N 13 TG182,SAME AS EARLIER - AEROSOL CANS INTO FIRE,CDN431 MRPH00 SAIR55 MFS Christie Downs 431
Firstly, throwing aerosol cans in a fire- real smart.
Secondly, doing it again later???
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 26, 2010, 11:54:23 AM
Firstly, throwing aerosol cans in a fire- real smart.
Secondly, doing it again later???
1908973 12:43:20 25-04-10 RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,1 DESMOND RD,HACKHAM MAP 186 N 13 TG182,BACK YARD BURN - PEOPLE THROWING AEROSOL,CANS INTO FIRE - CAUSING EXPLOSIONS -,FROM SAPOL,CDN431 MRPH00 SAIR55 CFS Morphett Vale Response
Quote from: Alex on April 27, 2010, 11:25:28 AM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 26, 2010, 11:54:23 AM
Firstly, throwing aerosol cans in a fire- real smart.
Secondly, doing it again later???
1908973 12:43:20 25-04-10 RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,1 DESMOND RD,HACKHAM MAP 186 N 13 TG182,BACK YARD BURN - PEOPLE THROWING AEROSOL,CANS INTO FIRE - CAUSING EXPLOSIONS -,FROM SAPOL,CDN431 MRPH00 SAIR55 CFS Morphett Vale Response
:?
The Elizabeth of the south.
lol...every bon fire i have in july/august aerosol cans get exploded....elizabeth of the hills??? :P
1800165 06:06:20 29-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC006 29/04/10 06:05,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,55 HARVEY RD,ELIZABETH GROVE MAP 61 M 7 TG182,MOTORISED PUSHBIKE :roll: :-P :lol:,FUEL SPILLAGE ON SCENE.,ELZ339 MFS Elizabeth 339
Quote from: Hazmat206 on April 29, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
1800165 06:06:20 29-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC006 29/04/10 06:05,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,55 HARVEY RD,ELIZABETH GROVE MAP 61 M 7 TG182,MOTORISED PUSHBIKE :roll: :-P :lol:,FUEL SPILLAGE ON SCENE.,ELZ339 MFS Elizabeth 339
With the size of that tank it would have dried up before they got there. :-P
14:15:56 05-05-10 HAPPY VALLEY *INFO* APOLOGIES FOR LATE NOTICE - HAPPY VALLEY PUMPER IS OFFLINE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE - NOT TO BE DRIVEN - MECHANICAL ISSUES - LT 4 - H/V STATION 5/05/2010 2:15:31 PM CFS Happy Valley Info
17:27:11 05-05-10 HAPPY VALLEY *INFO* PUMPER WILL BE OFFLINE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD - NEED TO REMOVE SOME GEAR IF A FEW PEOPLE COULD GIVE US A HAND- CAPTAIN CONTACT STN - H/V STATION 5/05/2010 5:26:47 PM CFS Happy Valley Info
Mechanic did and oil sample of gear box and it was full of metal shavings, not bad for a 3 year old truck.
Isn't that normal for a new gearbox? But i guess 3 years is prob a bit long for this to still be an issue.
1918631 00:56:13 09-05-10 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC003 09/05/10 00:54,RESPOND Gas Domestic,21-23 MCRITCHIE CR,WHYALLA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,OCCUPANTS ADVISED GAS HAS BEEN ISOLATED,FOR 3 DAYS AS THEIR EMERGENCY STOP BUTTO,NS ARE NOT WORKINGVERY STRONG MFS Whyalla 529 Response
Quote from: Darren on April 15, 2010, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: safireservice on April 14, 2010, 05:21:33 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any info on this?
MFS: *CFSRES INC046 14/04/10 15:27,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GRAND JUNCTION RD & WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,2 CAR MVA CLEANUP,TTGY19 OAK301 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
The question is why are TTG being responded to this when it's clearly well into MFS area (Just over a kilometre from Oakden station). I have also noticed in recent weeks them being responded to Holden Hill.
Surely BOMS isnt that much up the filtered to be suggesting a CFS response to these areas?
It has been fixed.
Darren,
What do you mean it has been fixed?
TTG has been getting a lot of calls well into MFS area as apparently they are the closest Rescue appliance available 329 and 339 must be busy else where?
They were in the wrong order in the list of appliances to pick from. They should never get picked for just and mva...only for entrapments if those appliances are busy.
Cape Jervis Brigade be advised that if you receive a page to attend a fire at Granite Island you are to attend in Cape 14 with a crew of only 1 or 2. More to follow From Sthn Fleurieu G.O. 17/05/10 5:41:51 PM
The contact talkgroup will be on the Page.This is due to the Causeway having a 4.5 Tonne weight limit placed on it today by Dept. of Transport. Don't know for how long, will keep you informed. From Sthn Fleurieu G.O. 17/05/10 5:48:46 PM
cj info; note last 2 pages were for info only no ongoing job contingency only thanks dears :FROM CAPE JERVIS STATION 6:26:20 PM
Yes definatly something that needed to be paged out straight away and couldnt wait for the next training night.......
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on May 17, 2010, 06:06:45 PM
Cape Jervis Brigade be advised that if you receive a page to attend a fire at Granite Island you are to attend in Cape 14 with a crew of only 1 or 2. More to follow From Sthn Fleurieu G.O. 17/05/10 5:41:51 PM
The contact talkgroup will be on the Page.This is due to the Causeway having a 4.5 Tonne weight limit placed on it today by Dept. of Transport. Don't know for how long, will keep you informed. From Sthn Fleurieu G.O. 17/05/10 5:48:46 PM
cj info; note last 2 pages were for info only no ongoing job contingency only thanks dears :FROM CAPE JERVIS STATION 6:26:20 PM
Yes definatly something that needed to be paged out straight away and couldnt wait for the next training night.......
Can you imagine the shiit fight if that didnt go out straight away and a catastrophic failure was to occur!!!...spending twenty cents and not keeping info to yourself is the way too go!
Not to mention how far away they are....think its now been changed to Inman Valley, who have an identical 14 and are many many kms closer.
as well as the hundreds of qrv's victor group has lol
No Al, they are command cars don't you know :roll:
1930428 19:23:55 28-05-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/05/10 19:23,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR BRIAN RD & SCARBOROUGH WA?,L?NS?AL? M?P ?76 MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 28, 2010, 09:25:25 PM
1930428 19:23:55 28-05-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/05/10 19:23,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR BRIAN RD & SCARBOROUGH WA?,L?NS?AL? M?P ?76 MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
Garbled message this is what it was
MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/05/10 19:23,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR BRIAN RD & SCARBOROUGH WAY,LONSDALE MAP 176 C 9 TG182,2ND ALARM TRUCK FIRE,PRIORITY TWO PER D/O STEELE,ADL206 MFS Adelaide 206
$1 million dollars damage
Quote from: SA Firey on May 28, 2010, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on May 28, 2010, 09:25:25 PM
1930428 19:23:55 28-05-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/05/10 19:23,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR BRIAN RD & SCARBOROUGH WA?,L?NS?AL? M?P ?76 MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
Garbled message this is what it was
MFS: *CFSRES INC069 28/05/10 19:23,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR BRIAN RD & SCARBOROUGH WAY,LONSDALE MAP 176 C 9 TG182,2ND ALARM TRUCK FIRE,PRIORITY TWO PER D/O STEELE,ADL206 MFS Adelaide 206
$1 million dollars damage
Yep, message went out no problems, just a bit of interference at the decoder of whichever site you pulled the message from 206.
1918631 08:59:33 06-06-10 Message to all crew .No comments to be made Re- add in sunday mail. enquiries contact S/FHammond , on 0418804901. MFS Whyalla 529 Response
Quote from: Hazmat206 on June 06, 2010, 07:45:54 PM
1918631 08:59:33 06-06-10 Message to all crew .No comments to be made Re- add in sunday mail. enquiries contact S/FHammond , on 0418804901. MFS Whyalla 529 Response
regarding article on page 7 of the Sunday Mail about their S/O who was demoted.
couldn't find the article on Adelaidenow.com.au
Yeah I am sure nothing more needs to be said, hopefully now whyalla can move on and build up some morale.
14:16:36 16-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 16/06/10 14:14,RESPOND Rescue Animal,21 PAXTON ST,WILLASTON MAP 23 G 6 TG182,PRIORITY TWO TO A CAT IN A TREE AT THIS,ADDRESS MR MORGAN 0400951480 P2,AD2015 - MFS Adelaide 2015
They sent an aerial all the way from adelaide to gawler for that! :roll:
Quote from: Hazmat206 on June 16, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
14:16:36 16-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 16/06/10 14:14,RESPOND Rescue Animal,21 PAXTON ST,WILLASTON MAP 23 G 6 TG182,PRIORITY TWO TO A CAT IN A TREE AT THIS,ADDRESS MR MORGAN 0400951480 P2,AD2015 - MFS Adelaide 2015
They sent an aerial all the way from adelaide to gawler for that! :roll:
AND THEN...
15:10:14 16-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 16/06/10 15:07,RESPOND Rescue Animal,21 PAXTON ST,WILLASTON MAP 23 G 6 TG182,RETURN TO CAT UP TREE, 2015,GAW359 - MFS Gawler 359
Quote from: Hazmat206 on June 16, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
14:16:36 16-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 16/06/10 14:14,RESPOND Rescue Animal,21 PAXTON ST,WILLASTON MAP 23 G 6 TG182,PRIORITY TWO TO A CAT IN A TREE AT THIS,ADDRESS MR MORGAN 0400951480 P2,AD2015 - MFS Adelaide 2015
They sent an aerial all the way from adelaide to gawler for that! :roll:
Hey, hey, hey, don't get cranky at bad policy that places both of the States major aerial appliances at the one station...
Quote from: 6739264 on June 16, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on June 16, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
14:16:36 16-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 16/06/10 14:14,RESPOND Rescue Animal,21 PAXTON ST,WILLASTON MAP 23 G 6 TG182,PRIORITY TWO TO A CAT IN A TREE AT THIS,ADDRESS MR MORGAN 0400951480 P2,AD2015 - MFS Adelaide 2015
They sent an aerial all the way from adelaide to gawler for that! :roll:
Hey, hey, hey, don't get cranky at bad policy that places both of the States major aerial appliances at the one station...
Hence one of the other remaining 2 aerials was off line :roll:
10:39:48 17-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 17/06/10 10:39,RESPOND RCR,178 GORGE RD,NEWTON MAP 108 J 5 TG182,OUTSIDE BIANCO BLDG,CAR VS TRUCK UNK ENTRAPMENTS,ATHL19 PDS221 WDV249 - MFS Woodville 249
11:09:21 17-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 17/06/10 11:08,RESPOND RCR,11 SIMPSON AV,DEVON PARK MAP 105 N 9 TG182,1 TRAPPED - FROM SAAS,WDV249 PPT371 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
11:37:23 17-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 17/06/10 11:36,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,217 GLEN OSMOND RD,FREWVILLE MAP 131 B 5 TG182,CHILD STUCK IN PLAY EQUIPMENT,MC DONALDS,EAS020 WDV249 GLO441 - SES Eastern Suburbs Response
Are woodville the only Rescue appliance on the run :?
funny thing is that the ses have an ewp, which is down at western adelaide, i would have thought it would have made far more sense to send for that rather than one of the major aerials
Yeah but that EWP doesn't reach very far, I have seen it !!
The truck was available, it was only as a last resport.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on June 17, 2010, 11:51:52 AM
10:39:48 17-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 17/06/10 10:39,RESPOND RCR,178 GORGE RD,NEWTON MAP 108 J 5 TG182,OUTSIDE BIANCO BLDG,CAR VS TRUCK UNK ENTRAPMENTS,ATHL19 PDS221 WDV249 - MFS Woodville 249
11:09:21 17-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 17/06/10 11:08,RESPOND RCR,11 SIMPSON AV,DEVON PARK MAP 105 N 9 TG182,1 TRAPPED - FROM SAAS,WDV249 PPT371 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
11:37:23 17-06-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 17/06/10 11:36,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,217 GLEN OSMOND RD,FREWVILLE MAP 131 B 5 TG182,CHILD STUCK IN PLAY EQUIPMENT,MC DONALDS,EAS020 WDV249 GLO441 - SES Eastern Suburbs Response
Are woodville the only Rescue appliance on the run :?
In town to cover for 204 who is training, 204 would have gone to all those jobs otherwise.
21-06-10 14:31:12 EUDN TOTH RIVN SDDL RESPOND FIRE ALARM EUDUNDA, SENIOR CITIZENS HOSTEL WARD ST, EUDUNDA *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM, 21/06/2010 14:35:09, PRIMARY ALARM
One of the heaviest response alarm installations ey! Altho..the number of inlets and outlets equates close to first alarm.
Finally a response to an installation thats, although slightly over the top perhaps, semi-appropriate. Im fed up with seeing one brigade by themselves to the local hospital or nursing home.
Whilst the response may be 'semi-appropriate' you would have to wonder about who is responded.
Saddleworth (35K's) & Riverton (45k's) both have to go through Marrabel to get to Eudunda. But Marrabel (24K's) are not responded?
Kapunda are only 27k's away and have both MFS & CFS(24P & 34) but are not responded???
mmm its the old keep it in the group bull. but still nice to see more tan one truck going for a change....
MFS: *CFSRES INC036 23/06/10 13:56,RESPOND To,TEST AV,TESTOWN MAP 000 0 0 TGTG,TEST OF FANS,SEA469 - MFS Seaford
Anyone know what this/these Fans is for?
is it an abbreviation, or a exhaust extraction system?
Test of SA Firefighter fans? To see how long it would take to be posted?
lol
cant help but plug the new..5 second delay paging feed and the african response tone.. must be from Tonga?
Quote from: Zippy on June 24, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
cant help but plug the new..5 second delay paging feed and the african response tone.. must be from Tonga?
South Africa I think. ;-)
I want a vevuzuvulavua to be my new Tone - 7.
04-07-10 16:03:23 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 04/07/10 16:03,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,GLEN RD,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 303 Q 11 TG148,,HIND00 VHB719 - CFS Victor Group Officers Response
04-07-10 16:03:52 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 04/07/10 16:03,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,GLEN RD,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 303 Q 11 TG148,,WAIT00 - CFS Waitpinga Response
16:30:06 L/INMAN: lolwer inman water nedeed at glen rosd VH-Base 4/7/2010 - CFS Lower Inman Valley Response
So sad how some groups wont respond outside their groups for backup,,,,, Port Elliot has 2 appliances probably as close to this job as MFS and Hindmarsh Valley, yet Waits and Lower Inman are called, and probably triple the distance away.....
Such a never ending problem though closer resources not being responded, just wish one day people will get their behinds kicked for such ridiculous behaviour.
It happens across the whole state and nothing ever happens Al, you know that.
At least they had the fire brigade there.....
hahahaha whats that an urban one darren :P
one day things will be smarter and you'll all be in the same fricken Group
Quote from: crashndash on July 05, 2010, 08:43:52 AM
one day things will be smarter and you'll all be in the same fricken Group
at last someone is talking some sense!
ah yes spot on there crashndash
ha maybe that supergroups idea isnt too bad afterall. thats the first positive thing ive heard about it.
1. breaking down borders
11:29:35 05-07-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 05/07/10 11:28,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,SECOND VALLEY ,SECOND VALLEY MAP 0 0 0,DEFAULT FOR YANK BOY OFF CLIFF NEAR JET,TY,NOA020 - SES Noarlunga Response
Bit harsh. Boy would do fine...
No, thats perfectly fine, another case of BOMS not helping spelling. Should read like this
11:29:35 05-07-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 05/07/10 11:28,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,SECOND VALLEY ,SECOND VALLEY MAP 0 0 0,DEFAULT FOR YANK, BOY OFF CLIFF NEAR JETTY,NOA020 - SES Noarlunga Response
Noarlunga were defaulting for YANKALLILA SES.
17:26:12 10-07-10 INFO UNIT STANDING DOWN FROM 18:00 WILL BE BACK OPERATIONAL FROM 06:00 TOMORROW MORNING THANK YOU FOR YOU EFFORTS DEPUTY UNIT MANAGER
SES Sturt Response
Now that would be nice!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on July 10, 2010, 07:21:52 PM
17:26:12 10-07-10 INFO UNIT STANDING DOWN FROM 18:00 WILL BE BACK OPERATIONAL FROM 06:00 TOMORROW MORNING THANK YOU FOR YOU EFFORTS DEPUTY UNIT MANAGER
SES Sturt Response
Now that would be nice!
Poor buggers wish we could stand down after a big day out lol :P
Glad to see that the SES are being kept accountable as usual (Job defaults, fire service response and all that), and then get to take some time off once the hard work is done...
Atleast us firies will never get so soft.
You got that right us firies are a tough breed :-D
Considered not bothering to reply at all for this one for a while, lmao...
I personally don't think any service should end up 'offline' for a period of time, but consider the fact that OHS regs do dictate that we have a 10hr rest period after 10-12hrs operations... [im not sure the specifics, but im 99% sure it exists]
If the entire units available personell were involved, they may very well be technically unable to respond. Anyway, SAAS are doing it every other day with some voll. stations.
basically due to ohsw 10hr break after 12hrs of ops (possibly having come from work so add another 8 hrs) sturt ran out of people that were able to crew trucks, when you have 3 trucks running with 4 - 5 on a truck plus ops crew you tend to use people pretty quick and even with them stood down their is still coverage from neighbouring units
numbers do you have an issue with ses all the time? if you are dumb enough to call resting crews soft even in jest after they've been out for 12 - 14 hrs and to work fatigued when you can be working at heights, cutting up trees with a chainsaw which will easily take your arm off if you aren't paying attention, drving a 12t truck possibly under evs standards, cutting someone from a car truck then you need your heads checked before you kill someone else
there needs to be a point where someone says stop they don't let mfs do it as far as i'm aware, they change crews on shifts. and bring cfs in to cover stations when needed, here they did the same thing stand sturt down and shift coverage to other units. if not where does the blame lie when we kill someone may even be your own crew might not be delibrate may not have happened if you had slept a bit in the last 24hrs i'd say the volunteer and his boss are in for an almightly donkey kicking and they have to live with killing your own crew for the rest of their lives.
it isn't worth it we don't get paid enough to take those risks
Mate he is only having a dig (as you quite rightly guessed) - the days are gone when we can work people 24 - 7 even in CFS! cheers
Andrew, well done to the SES crews and those CFS crews who all did a great job. OHSW has taken over how long we can put members out into the field and we all have to take note of this and monitor what our crews are doing and the hours. Crew rotation and also standing down crews is a must CFS does this to its members who go on strike team's and interstate so its nothing new I guess that some groups or brigades dont follow this policy.
The other thing to note is at last SES called in for help from other agency's which was great to see and they did default a large amount of calls back to CFS/MFS due to SES workload.
Safework SA have released a Code of Practice that relates to Fatigue Management / Working Hours, formally in May 2020. http://www.safework.sa.gov.au/uploaded_files/ACOPonWorkingHours.pdf (http://www.safework.sa.gov.au/uploaded_files/ACOPonWorkingHours.pdf)
Their website states that there has been a specific document developed that addresses the needs of emergency service volunteers
QuoteThe particular considerations of employees and volunteers who provide frontline emergency services have been addressed in the development of specific emergency services guidelines. Please contact SAFECOM for further details.
The following link will take you to the Safework SA webpage that deals with the COP - Working Hours... http://www.safework.sa.gov.au/show_page.jsp?id=8489 (http://www.safework.sa.gov.au/show_page.jsp?id=8489)
Like it or not, I suspect that agencies will need to seriously consider fatigue management and show some robust strategies to effectively manage the OHS&W requirements of their staff (paid and/or volunteers) with regards to their working hours.
To a large degree the volunteer
MUST also take some responsibility for their own welfare too.
Just some info for the forum to digest.
Cheers
Shane
PS - reckon this might in fact migrate into a new thread - sorry mods...
Why wouldn't you manage your people ? If you know your busy wouldn't you be better off sending some home for a rest then bringing them back to swap over, clearly if your getting paged for job 750 something yet you haven't dealt with job 40 wouldn't that suggest to you that no matter if you had 2 or or 4 trucks out you aren't going to get through it.
OR if you can't manage, how about asking for some strike teams or co-ordinate something, not wait until 1800 and go offline and handball your jobs without telling the agency helping you.... :x
I don't think anyone is saying the don't want to help the SES. But get some sort of IMT happening and manage the jobs.
QuoteMRPH OFFICERS: STARTER MOTOR ON THE CAFS PUMP IS U/S. AUTO ELEC IS TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER ONE. ROLLER DOOR PART SHOULD BE IN TOMORROW. DONT FORGET TRAINING ON THE DENNIS TONIGHT AT 1900 - MATT
another movement for the dennis, i also heard rumor your getting a new 34 finally Matt?
Quote from: Darren on July 13, 2010, 10:31:06 AM
Why wouldn't you manage your people ? If you know your busy wouldn't you be better off sending some home for a rest then bringing them back to swap over, clearly if your getting paged for job 750 something yet you haven't dealt with job 40 wouldn't that suggest to you that no matter if you had 2 or or 4 trucks out you aren't going to get through it.
OR if you can't manage, how about asking for some strike teams or co-ordinate something, not wait until 1800 and go offline and handball your jobs without telling the agency helping you.... :x
I don't think anyone is saying the don't want to help the SES. But get some sort of IMT happening and manage the jobs.
From my understanding (not absolutely sure), they were doing local IMT with a CFS liason officer & being co-ordinated with RDO/SDO. Several Units were doing this.
I think people are reading toooo much AGAIN into a information pager message without full knowledge of the background/history/decisions made.
For example (again not facual in this instance), if you keep paging incidents to a crew that is on the road, you disturb the resting crew from the same Unit. The rest crew ends up switching pagers off & you have lost a method of communication.
If you crew rest rotate between Units, by two Units working together (one Unit rests while the other Unit works by covering both areas, then swaps) then in theory the Unit pagers do not activate. It also enables maintenance of chainsaws, ropes, equipment, vehicle checks, etc to be completed on the resting Unit vehicles during a multi-tasking incident.
Sounds a damn good idea to me.
CFS do strike teams, SES allocates extra vehicles/crew/equipment to the impacted Unit as needed. Arranged via RDO normally by telephone.
Quote from: Alex on July 13, 2010, 11:06:17 AM
QuoteMRPH OFFICERS: STARTER MOTOR ON THE CAFS PUMP IS U/S. AUTO ELEC IS TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER ONE. ROLLER DOOR PART SHOULD BE IN TOMORROW. DONT FORGET TRAINING ON THE DENNIS TONIGHT AT 1900 - MATT
another movement for the dennis, i also heard rumor your getting a new 34 finally Matt?
Another of the worlds most expensive fire trucks!! Think they are down for a new 34 in the next build anyway, just due to natural old age.
yes morphett vale now have the dennis, seaford will be getting there current 24p in 2 weeks.... and then will get a new 34p in febuary...the dennis as been refurbished again and give approx 5 years or operational service
Quote from: Andrew K on July 11, 2010, 08:30:42 PM
basically due to ohsw 10hr break after 12hrs of ops (possibly having come from work so add another 8 hrs) sturt ran out of people that were able to crew trucks, when you have 3 trucks running with 4 - 5 on a truck plus ops crew you tend to use people pretty quick and even with them stood down their is still coverage from neighbouring units
numbers do you have an issue with ses all the time? if you are dumb enough to call resting crews soft even in jest after they've been out for 12 - 14 hrs and to work fatigued when you can be working at heights, cutting up trees with a chainsaw which will easily take your arm off if you aren't paying attention, drving a 12t truck possibly under evs standards, cutting someone from a car truck then you need your heads checked before you kill someone else
there needs to be a point where someone says stop they don't let mfs do it as far as i'm aware, they change crews on shifts. and bring cfs in to cover stations when needed, here they did the same thing stand sturt down and shift coverage to other units. if not where does the blame lie when we kill someone may even be your own crew might not be delibrate may not have happened if you had slept a bit in the last 24hrs i'd say the volunteer and his boss are in for an almightly filtered kicking and they have to live with killing your own crew for the rest of their lives.
it isn't worth it we don't get paid enough to take those risks
I have a problem with any service, anytime, when that they are making poor decisions that have a detrimental effect on the public, and are not being held accountable for those decisions.
Thanks for the quick run down of what goes on at storm and tempest incidents and just how fatigue can effect those operations. How about you print that off and forward it to your CEO, via your UM and remind them that there are HUNDREDS of other resources that can be called in to assist, and everytime those other resources are not utilised your hierarchy are merely fatiguing SES crews that are already well behind the eightball mentally.
Where were the storm damage strike teams? Where were the country SES units rotated into metro? Why did things get so bad that an ENTIRE unit had to be stood down for rest? Has anyone in the SES got any idea of incident or fatigue management? Does the SES know the meaning of service delivery?
We are happy to send hundreds of volunteers and dozens upon dozens of trucks to fires in the summer that often have minimal dollar loss impact, yet we have thousands of people effected by a Storm and Tempest incident, causing millions of dollars in damage and the SES can't even turn out the local Fire Brigade to assist SES crews.
Storm and Tempest:
- Cut up trees
- Tarp roofs
- Fix tiles
- Salvage work
- Divert water
- Sandbagging
- Etc..
I'm pretty sure that 99.99% of Fire Trucks and Firies worth their stripes can achieve the above. Why are they not utilised to their fullest extent?
Get over yourself and ask for help.
Yep would have to agree Numbers (the get over yourself comment was aimed at the service?) If there were that many taskings & there was additional resources available - why not use them? Here if we get more than a few (4-5) tasks at once, we ask our "rural" friends because they have chainsaw teams (& some of their people are also "our" people)but that is a local thing - we still leave the "townies" & VRA out most times just in case there is a "real" job. Having said that - it depends on what the tasks are & whether the firey people are trained in combating those tasks. From what I can gather firies were tasked anyway? However I still don't see the problem with standing a unit/brigade down anyway - maybe next time they just don't put the message over the pager system? :-D Anyway have fun guys :wink:
Numbers, Abso-friggin-lutely!, stacking of jobs to this extent is ridiculous, our group could supply 2 strike teams chainsaw equipped and still leave at least 1 appliance in each station......overkill, lets do it and go home early!
Agree with you completely numbers,,, i know that the local ses units surrounding us were lucky to have a couple of jobs for the whole day, they could have been utilised as back up for metro and hills areas as well.
No comment, because I am just an ordinary volunteer.
Quoteyes morphett vale now have the dennis, seaford will be getting there current 24p in 2 weeks.... and then will get a new 34p in febuary...the dennis as been refurbished again and give approx 5 years or operational service
Pretty much on the money. The Dennis still has some small things to be rectified before going on the run (mainly electrical) but overall it seems that they have tidied it up and fixed most of the issues that our Group wanted resolved before it came back.
If things go according to plan our 24P heads off to the Seaford brigade and is then replaced with a brand new 34P sometime soon.
Matt is this a good deal for the brigade?? You will now have 2 appliances that are well past their use by date and with all the on going problems with the Dennis is it worth the deal for a brigade that does alot of calls to have a pumper that is very unreliable...
Bill, regardless of the Dennis' condition, i would suggest it sets a precedent of having a heavy pumper in the station and would work in there favour when it comes time to replace it.
QuoteBill, regardless of the Dennis' condition, i would suggest it sets a precedent of having a heavy pumper in the station and would work in there favour when it comes time to replace it.
It was also HQ's way of fulfilling our now upgraded SFEC prescription. Our appliance allocation now includes the requirement for an Urban Pumper for our brigade. The Dennis only came back to the Group after a long list of faults were rectified, as it turns out not everything has been fixed so it is not being accepted until they are.
Our 24 is due for replacement in the next year or two so we should have a new rural appliance soon. To be honest our 24 is still in pretty good condition and does a good job at rural fires, it would make a very good regional spare when it is taken out of service.
I think it would be sad to see your 24 disposed of, its in VERY good condition for its age, and would make a great spare....or a strike team truck, hint hint !
WEll as long as you guys are happy with it and they fix all the problems and in time you get a replacement pumper.
1909006 17:57:11 16-07-10 STRL INFO: Pumper Rescue is back online. Thanks to all those who helped restow. STRL Captain.
So does this mean that they no longer have a stand alone rescue????
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on July 16, 2010, 05:45:38 PM
1909006 17:57:11 16-07-10 STRL INFO: Pumper Rescue is back online. Thanks to all those who helped restow. STRL Captain.
So does this mean that they no longer have a stand alone rescue????
Welcome to months ago.
06:42:05 21-07-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 21/07/10 06:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,27 SUTHERLAND AV,SEMAPHORE PARK MAP 91 G 11 TG182,CAR VS HORSE AND RIDER FROM SAAS CLEAN U,P,PAD251 - MFS Port Adelaide 251
Second time in a week
Quote from: Hazmat206 on July 21, 2010, 08:38:56 AM
06:42:05 21-07-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC010 21/07/10 06:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,27 SUTHERLAND AV,SEMAPHORE PARK MAP 91 G 11 TG182,CAR VS HORSE AND RIDER FROM SAAS CLEAN U,P,PAD251 - MFS Port Adelaide 251
Second time in a week
When your driving disqualified and 5 times over the limit, poor horse never had a chance :?
11:31:27 22-07-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 22/07/10 11:31,RESPOND ALARM 010/033,CSR HOUSE,101 GRENFELL ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 C 6 TG182,FIP IN FIRE CONTROL ROOM OFF WYATT ST,,ADL203 ADL201 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
203 back online :-)
23-07-10 14:30:12 MRPH INFO: SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU ALL, THERE IS NO DEPLOYMENT TO VICTORIA AT THE MOMENT. SOMETHING CRAZY GOING ON WITH THE PAGING NETWORK - MATT - CFS Morphett Vale Info
14:23:45 ANYONE AVAILABLE FOR STRIKE TEAM TO VICTORIA PHONE PETER ASAP ON 0428 982 964 - CFS Forreston Info
14:23:04 DON MOORE DEPARTING BY BUS FOR VIC DEPLOYMENT TODAY AT NOON GOOD LUCK AND STAY SAFE HE RETURNS THRUSDAY FROM JASON
Sorry guys, i bought a copy of the Black Saturday Fire Storm book from Borders today....
15:21:30 23-07-10 RE: LAST MESSAGE, PAGER FAULT IN THE SYSTEM FROM CRAIG - CFS Burnside Info
15:20:38 23-07-10 LAST PAGE NOT FROM GILLY, WAS FROM AN ANONYMOUS SENDER, IF YOU KNOW WHAT ITS ABOUT CALL DAVID 0412797881 - CFS Burnside Info
14:35:19 23-07-10 ANYONE KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THE DON MOORE PAGE FROM JASON? I DONT! MUST BE GREMLINS IN THE SYSTEM. FROM MT PLEASANT CAPTAIN - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
Some weird pagers coming out due to this glitch, including something about a deployment to vic!
MFS: *CFSRES INC053 30/07/10 19:19,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,43 HAMPSHIRE ST,MANSFIELD PARK MAP93 B 13 TG182,WATER MAIN HAS BURST. CAR IN THE HOLE,1 X PERSON TRAPPED CAR ON ITS SIDE,PPT020 APK361 WDV249 MFS Woodville 249
Now that's a freak accident :-o
It was very minor with no injuries to anyone involved.
The car will probably be driven away.
31-07-10 18:46:08 MFS: *CFSRES INC074 31/07/10 18:45,RESPOND ALARM 010/064,LEABROOK PLACE,APARTMENTS,17 TUSMORE AVE,LEABROOK MAP 119 K 11 TG182,SPKL VALVE MAIN GATE,,BLP211 GLO441 ADL202 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
31-07-10 19:26:59 MFS: SNR OFF GRP:441/211/202 ATTENDING UNIT FIRE FOLLOWING FIRE ALARM ACTIVATION AT LEABROOK APARTMENTS. SPRINKLER HEAD HAD OPERATED, CONTROLLING FIRE PRIOR TO ARRIVAL, 1 X 97 YO MALE TREATED FOR SMOKE INHALATION (INC 074) - MFS Car 41 (Southern DO)
Great example that alarm calls aren't always false alarms, something my brigade could do with remembering.......
Quote from: SA Firey on July 30, 2010, 06:55:48 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC053 30/07/10 19:19,RESPOND Flooding/Salvage,43 HAMPSHIRE ST,MANSFIELD PARK MAP93 B 13 TG182,WATER MAIN HAS BURST. CAR IN THE HOLE,1 X PERSON TRAPPED CAR ON ITS SIDE,PPT020 APK361 WDV249 MFS Woodville 249
Now that's a freak accident :-o
Water main had ruptured about 5 hours before the incident. The car only reversed into a hole created by the water main. Car was never on its side, had just bottomed out resting on diff. Only thing trapping anyone was a large puddle
01-08-10 17:01:42 WAIT INFO: URGENT MEETING FOR ALL WAITPINGA BRIGADE MEMBERS CALLED FOR THIS THUR 5TH 7.30PM AT GROUP CENTRE. TO DETERMINE FUTURE VIABILITY OF BRIGADE DUE TO ONGOING FAILURE TO RESPOND. FROM GO VH-SubBase 1/08/10 - CFS Waitpinga Response
Wooo would this spell the end of Victor Group
I would say not the end of the group but may be the brigade.....
Surely the group have to merge with someone else, can't have a group with 2 brigades in it.
A proper look at, and a rearrangement of Groups is long overdue...I know there was a recent proposal for Region 1 to reduce the number of groups, and hence the rearrangement of group boundaries..... but that seems to have gone all quiet...not sure where it is at now!
Pip
yea surely some of the groups in region 1/2 could be made bigger. but than again with out knowing details maybe im wrong!
Quote from: Darren on August 03, 2010, 12:27:19 PM
Surely the group have to merge with someone else, can't have a group with 2 brigades in it.
I agree with u there darren, merge them with Mundoo or Southern Fl....?
I am surprised it still exists as it is, 3 brigades is such a small group to have these days.
Although they might need to change the way they operate :wink:
There will be a number of group's that will merge into bigger groups over the next few years but how big should these groups be?? If we look at WATTLE RANGE group there are 22 stations with a group officer and 4 DGO'S is this group too big???
Lots of rural brigade's are having manning issues and with a declining membership i hate to say this but a number of rural brigades will close.....
I suppose when it comes to merging groups, obviously a whole heap of factors need to be looked at.
Obviously, geographical proximity is one - that one is fairly obvious. There are some brigades around who are on the outer edge of a group area. The population of that township tends to associate with the adjoining group - eg the kids go to school in the adjoining group area, townsfolk do their shopping in the adjoining group area, collect their mail from a post office in the adjoining group's area - so it makes sense to add this group to the adjoining one!!
However geographical area should not be the only criteria.
We could go down the track of all groups to have roughly equal numbers of brigades in them...but, you could end up with the same sized groups, but one does mega numbers of calls per year, the adjoining group hardly any, so one group has group officer holders getting flogged with work, the adjoining ones not doing a lot!!
So, do you then look at rearranging group boundaries based on workload - so that each group ends up with about the same workload...so some groups would have a handful of brigades, others very large, but roughly the same workload...?
These suggestions make it very simplistic, and obviously, changing / rearranging groups is not that simple.....especially when tribalism & politics gets involved!!
However, I do believe it is time we seriously looked at the issue, and made some changes to groups and group boundaries.... after all, the bulk of our group boundaries are still based on which council area you were in!!
Pip
I know from my own region that there is a move to merge a number of the smaller groups into one group but also look at the other groups within the region where brigades are closer to the other group than their own group but also look at volunteer numbers.
Large groups have their good and bad points its just a matter of someone or some groups taking the first step to get the ball rolling,There will also have to be long consultation with groups/brigades and also to work out the fine points. One issue will be group bases,WATTLE RANGE have two bases one at Millicent and the other at Penola both take it in turns a week on and a week off in doing comms .So lots will have to be worked out well before hand I did hear that it would take up to 2 years work before any group could or would merge so that the consultation process is done by the book....
If you consolidated enough groups you could almost give them a paid staff member to oversea them, much the same way the CFA work, they don't have dedicated GO's. All the one's I have seen have dual roles, so you might be such and such captain, but on big strike team type jobs you take a GO's role. I have been to several stations that have GO helmets on anything from FF's through to Captains hooks.
They said it works well, the paid staff member does the overall paperwork for the group, and because they are full time they have the time to do, equipment, trainig, report etc etc All the brigade officers do is firefighting and fire reports.
Worth a thought. Not to many people putting their hands up for group roles these days.
"allegedly" the AAIMS span of control concept was born of research that proved the limits of a single entity (note NOT a single person!!)
"allegedly" someone will apply this one day to something other than fire appliances, sectors, divisions and campaigns......something like, oh I dont know....Groups and Regions?
or we could just work with the people we like....works for some Groups
Quote from: misterteddy on August 05, 2010, 06:59:38 PM
"allegedly" the AAIMS span of control concept was born of research that proved the limits of a single entity (note NOT a single person!!)
"allegedly" someone will apply this one day to something other than fire appliances, sectors, divisions and campaigns......something like, oh I dont know....Groups and Regions?
or we could just work with the people we like....works for some Groups
Probably why theres deputies and a whole raft of group positions and commiteees
Darren, the CFA joint role works well one can be a officer in the brigade and hold group rank as for staff doing the paperwork they are called BASO and dont hold any rank their job is to do the day to day task of paperwork and help with inspections..Works well but lets face it CFA have lots more money than CFS...
17:29:34 15-08-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC100 15/08/10 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP B J 4 TG182,,ADL203 ADL206 - MFS Adelaide 206
Mistake maybe ???
206 came across it, therefore first arriving officer, put on the job.
QuoteMistake maybe
C'mon.... bit of faith please.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on August 15, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
17:29:34 15-08-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC100 15/08/10 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP B J 4 TG182,,ADL203 ADL206 - MFS Adelaide 206
Mistake maybe ???
Despite the fact that we have a good explanation as to what occured, have you never seen a Hazmat appliance tunred out to an MVA? Not everything has to be a mistake made at comms...
EDIT: Terrible spelling... Hammad Appliance? What? I don't think I was drunk...
Quote from: 6739264 on August 15, 2010, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on August 15, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
17:29:34 15-08-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC100 15/08/10 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP B J 4 TG182,,ADL203 ADL206 - MFS Adelaide 206
Mistake maybe ???
Despite the fact that we have a good explanation as to what occured, have you never seen a Hammad appliance tunred out to an MVA? Not everything has to be a mistake made at com ms...
Nope,first time i've come across it.
Also, i thought they were at a second alarm domestic, but alex explained why they turned up.
1908863 14:24:28 30-08-10 MFS:EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM AO-AMR-FT4-M GO DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE NOW*CFSRES
Any takers on how many people got all the way to their stations in the regions without reading their pagers lol??
And how many called up Adelaide fire on the radio.......!
One would think that if the callsign meant nothing to you, you would stay out of it. Some people :roll:
most of us arent radio special geeks, could have been an emerg button on a radio in an appliance for all many of us would have known......
would have thought the operators could have made the message clearer....they got what they deserved
...quite an amount of station's doors opened all at once lol so a fair bit of volunteer fuel used anyhow..
shouldnt have opened station doors unless brigades have just used any old pager rather than a purpose one... message went to regional info, not individual brigade response adresses.
That pager message should have only gone to Group officers and staff and not every CFS pager...
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on August 31, 2010, 08:00:35 AM
That pager message should have only gone to Group officers and staff and not every CFS pager...
Hence the subsequent message of "Thanks for all the phone calls, incorrect pager group selected, no further calls in required thanks".
I'm with Darren. If you don't know what the call signs mean, then the page probably wasn't meant for you. Sometimes it's just best to do nothing.
Anyone know where the radio was that presed the button....Moral of the story if ya accidentally pres button dont turn radio off wait n tell Ad Fire it a false alarm!
MFS: *CFSRES INC054 31/08/10 17:45,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,LYNTON MAP 142 K 12 TG146,2 CARS ONE ROLL OVER OUTSIDE WINDY POINT, RESTAURANT,BKWD19 BELR00 STM401
MFS area?
CFS area, EMA response.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on August 31, 2010, 11:08:12 AM
Anyone know where the radio was that presed the button....
QuoteMFS:EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM AO-AMR-FT4-M GO DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE NOW*CFSRES
One would assume it's a 'fixed' air operations radio? Maybe in an aircraft?
14:44:01 02-09-10 MFS: HAS THIS MSG COME THROUGH TO THE NEW 421? - MFS O'Halloran Hill 421
21:10:53 03-09-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC262 03/09/10 21:10,RESPOND Assist Police,THE GUMS SHAKESPEARE AV,MAGILL MAP 120 A 2 TG182,RELEIVE 211 AT STANDBY,ADL203 - MFS Adelaide 203
What happened here?
06-09-10 09:27:52 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 06/09/10 09:27,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,COWIRRA ,COWIRRA MAP 0 0 0 TG207,CONFIRMING FEMALE TRAPPED UNDER COW.,MNNM19 - CFS Mannum Response :-o
Cow vs cow?
MFS: *CFSRES INC095 06/09/10 12:18,RESPOND Aircraft Heavy,307 GILLES ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 15 TG182,,BPK451 BLP211 ADL206 STAPLE
Now that would be a very intersting call......!!!
Luckily, it was just fat fingers....should have been this!
MFS: *CFSRES INC095 06/09/10 12:14,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,307 GILLES ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 15 TG182,,ADL203 ADL204
Pip
11:42:30 MFS: *CFSRES INC086 06/09/10 11:41,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,LYDIA TCE,WALLAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG194,LOW LOADER ON FIRE AT VITERRA SILO'S.,WAL671 KAD661
Now pretty much a 3rd+ Alarm, Responded Appliances:
MFS: Wallaroo 671, Kadina 661, Moonta 681, Adelaide 2015, A few DO's, Port Pirie 501, Adelaide 2037, Salisbury 321, Elizabeth 331, Adelaide 2017.
CFS: Kadina, Paskerville , Maitland, +Others performing COQ.
SES: Bute, Maitland, Port Boughton
11:04:20 11-09-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 11/09/10 11:03,RESPOND Assist SAAS,41 WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,ASSIST SAAS WITH PATIENT IN TREE 7' UP.,OAK301 - MFS Oakden 301
Too high...
11:16:10 11-09-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 11/09/10 11:15,RESPOND Assist SAAS,41 WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,ASSIST SAAS WITH PATIENT IN TREE,ADL203 - MFS Adelaide 203
Still too high!
11:27:53 11-09-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 11/09/10 11:27,RESPOND Assist SAAS,41 WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,ASSIST SAAS WITH PATIENT IN TREE,ADL205 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
That's better :-P
It was only 4 metres tree lopper with chest pains.
SAAS SOT also responded.
Soft ambo's didn't want to play monkey???
MFS: *CFSRES INC088 14/09/10 21:06,RESPOND To,RIDGE RD,SUMMERTOWN MAP 133 D 5 TG126,CIVIL AVIATION TOWER, AIR SERVICES TOWER,, UNDER GROUND FUEL TANKER HAS EXPLODED,SUMM42 GRHL00 NORT00 PCCY00 BURN42
11:18:49 15-09-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC012 15/09/10 11:18,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,WAKEFIELD RD,ADELAIDE MAP 118 M 12 TG098,,AD2090 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
Quote from: crossy on September 15, 2010, 07:27:43 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC088 14/09/10 21:06,RESPOND To,RIDGE RD,SUMMERTOWN MAP 133 D 5 TG126,CIVIL AVIATION TOWER, AIR SERVICES TOWER,, UNDER GROUND FUEL TANKER HAS EXPLODED,SUMM42 GRHL00 NORT00 PCCY00 BURN42
Was a stolen car dumped at the gateway, and set alight....no underground fuel tank involved.....everyone was stopped called after the first appliance arrived......
Pip
Nice to see a decent first alarm response though for what had been reported.
3 pumps plus tanker.
Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
Nice to see a decent first alarm response though for what had been reported.
3 pumps plus tanker.
Yep agree!
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 15/09/10 16:37,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,48 VINCENT RD,PARALOWIE MAP 60 H 16 TG182,CODE GREEN,SUSPECT CALLER REPORTING FIRE IN FRONT Y,ARD, FROM A PHONE IN QUEENSLAND...,SAIR55 SAL321 - MFS Salisbury 321
Are colour codes a normal thing?
Is it a P2 or beware type of response?
Quote from: vsteve01 on September 15, 2010, 05:05:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 15/09/10 16:37,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,48 VINCENT RD,PARALOWIE MAP 60 H 16 TG182,CODE GREEN,SUSPECT CALLER REPORTING FIRE IN FRONT Y,ARD, FROM A PHONE IN QUEENSLAND...,SAIR55 SAL321 - MFS Salisbury 321
Are colour codes a normal thing?
Is it a P2 or beware type of response?
And ya think thats the interesting part of the message....
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on September 15, 2010, 05:09:07 PM
And ya think thats the interesting part of the message....
I have strange interests :D
Quote from: vsteve01 on September 15, 2010, 05:05:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 15/09/10 16:37,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,48 VINCENT RD,PARALOWIE MAP 60 H 16 TG182,CODE GREEN,SUSPECT CALLER REPORTING FIRE IN FRONT Y,ARD, FROM A PHONE IN QUEENSLAND...,SAIR55 SAL321 - MFS Salisbury 321
Are colour codes a normal thing?
Is it a P2 or beware type of response?
No just the old school terminology it's actually Priority 2
Code Red = P1
Code Green = P2
Old school.
Code 1 = P1
Code 3 = no lights no siren
CFA.....
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on September 15, 2010, 07:26:23 PM
Code 1 = P1
Code 3 = no lights no siren
CFA.....
Were we talking about CFA?
Quote from: 6739264 on September 16, 2010, 03:15:04 PM
Were we talking about CFA?
I wasn't initially. I saw another one earlier today with the same Green code.
They did change it again back to Code Red and Code Green but with a fair bit of pushing I understand it will go back to priority 1 and 2 which lines up with all the other services. Most of us use P1 and P2.
Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
Nice to see a decent first alarm response though for what had been reported.
3 pumps plus tanker.
3 dakka dakka's and a few bulkys, no pumps on that page.
Quote from: pumprescue on September 16, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
Nice to see a decent first alarm response though for what had been reported.
3 pumps plus tanker.
3 dakka dakka's and a few bulkys, no pumps on that page.
3 34P's, 2 bulk water carriers, a 34 and a pumper
cant help having no pumps on the page if their aren't any to go other then one
Quote from: pumprescue on September 16, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2010, 12:03:46 PM
Nice to see a decent first alarm response though for what had been reported.
3 pumps plus tanker.
3 dakka dakka's and a few bulkys, no pumps on that page.
Lets not be pedantic... Better than one dakka dakka going to have a look or the captain only in his ute.
Quote1925563 21:19:30 16-09-10 P127 PLEASE CALL ON - JOB FOR WCH PICKING UP MEDSTAR AND TAKING BACK TO MEDSTAR
SAAS Unit Prospect
???Ummmmmm, taxi..?????
Quote from: Edster on September 16, 2010, 09:02:18 PM
cant help having no pumps on the page if their aren't any to go other then one
actually burnside pumper were responded too (by radio/phone).
I wonder if the "good" turnout page was in any way influenced by the group officer being present in Adelaide Fire at the time the call was received (cos I bet the BOMS data is not correct).
Probably had a lot to do with it, most times when you ring ALERTS you won't get that response.
Rekon your onto something Darius!
Quote from: Darius on September 17, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
(cos I bet the BOMS data is not correct).
Mate, there is no BOMS data for those areas...
Bring on SACAD [in theory]
Quote from: straps on September 17, 2010, 05:52:37 AM
Quote1925563 21:19:30 16-09-10 P127 PLEASE CALL ON - JOB FOR WCH PICKING UP MEDSTAR AND TAKING BACK TO MEDSTAR
SAAS Unit Prospect
???Ummmmmm, taxi..?????
ummm.....Mansell unit won't fit in a taxi?
come on shane - even you know this much!!
Quote from: boredmatrix on September 17, 2010, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: straps on September 17, 2010, 05:52:37 AM
Quote1925563 21:19:30 16-09-10 P127 PLEASE CALL ON - JOB FOR WCH PICKING UP MEDSTAR AND TAKING BACK TO MEDSTAR
SAAS Unit Prospect
???Ummmmmm, taxi..?????
ummm.....Mansell unit won't fit in a taxi?
come on shane - even you know this much!!
Alas my cynacism was unfounded then Bordey... Was simply thinking that the team wanted a lift.... Didnt think about the team AND equipment (ie mansell unit) going back to their base... my bad..!!!!
Suprised noone noticed this... All those false alarms, and then the system doesn't activate for the real deal! Not good. Hopefully not too much 'serious' damage.
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 23/09/10 08:06,RESPOND To,STATE TRAINING CENTER BRUKUNGA ,BRUKUNGA MAP 0 0 0 TG128,FIRE SELF EXTIGUISHED, LAST NIGHT, APROX, $80,000
DAMAGE,,SMTHSN
Quote from: Alex on September 23, 2010, 10:48:40 AM
Suprised noone noticed this... All those false alarms, and then the system doesn't activate for the real deal! Not good. Hopefully not too much 'serious' damage.
Where'd you see this. Can't see it anywhere.
I saw it on my private scanner, but there is one online scanner that shows all adresses, not sure if the person wants it public though as its password protected. I guess it is a paging adress that has been removed from the commonly used decoder.
So it activates for a little bit oh shower steam but not an actual fire, not good when a fire service training centres alarms don't go off haha
The building that got burnt does not have an FIP on it, it was a toilet/shower block only.
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 23/09/10 20:32,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,KALBEEBA ST,KALBEEBA MAP 24 L 13 TG096,OUTSIDE CFS STATION.,CONC00 LYND00 - CFS Lyndoch Response
Quote from: Alex on September 23, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
I saw it on my private scanner, but there is one online scanner that shows all adresses, not sure if the person wants it public though as its password protected. I guess it is a paging adress that has been removed from the commonly used decoder.
it's an MFS individual's pager, could be a fire cause investigator maybe
26-09-10 11:36:40 MFS: *CFSRES INC028 26/09/10 11:36,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,TUNGKILLO ,TUNGKILLO MAP 0 0 0 TG096,NEAR THE TUNGKILLO DUMP ON HARTMAN RD,MPLT19 PLMR00 - CFS Mount Pleasant Response
26-09-10 12:17:12 MT PLEASANT 24P & 24, BAROSSA CAR 2 RESPONDING TO CAR FIRE TUNGKILLO, ARE NOW ON SCENE, MARY - CFS Mount Pleasant Response
26-09-10 12:19:30 SITREP, CAR FULLY ON FIRE AND HAS A GAS TANK.PALMER24 ON SCENE, MT TORRENS HAS BEEN RESPONDED. MARY - CFS Mount Pleasant Response
26-09-10 13:03:36 TUNGKILLO CAR FIRE- FIRE HAS BURNT IT SELF OUT, ABOUT TO COOL DOWN THE GAS CYLINDER,MARY - CFS Mount Pleasant Response
THAN
26-09-10 13:12:02 MFS: *CFSRES INC032 26/09/10 13:11,RESPOND RCR,YETTIE RD,WILLIAMSTOWN MAP 00 K 15 TG096,AT TOP OF WHISPERING WALL ACCESS RD,WLLM19 CONC00 - CFS Williamstown Response
26-09-10 13:25:29 Wllmtwn 24p responding to incident priority 1, Wllmtwn 34 responding priority 2 THANKS : BAROSSA CONTROL 26/09/2010 1:23:26 PM - CFS Williamstown Info
26-09-10 13:31:19 24P & 34 on scene, no further assistance required, will be returning to station soon THANKS : BAROSSA CONTROL 26/09/2010 1:29:20 PM - CFS Williamstown Info
And you reckon we send to many useless messages!!!
Quote from: Darren on September 27, 2010, 02:10:01 AM
And you reckon we send to many useless messages!!!
I agree Darren i mean seriously if ya dont make the truck to get to the incident you dont need to know details!
I wonder if this is brigade initiated or GO initiated?
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 27/09/10 11:06,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,329 WATERLOO CORNER RD,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 60 H 10 TG182,,SAL329 SLSB19 ELZ331 - MFS Salisbury 32
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 27/09/10 11:06,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,329 WATERLOO CORNER RD,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 60 H 10 TG182,,SAL329 SLSB19 ELZ331 - CFS Salisbury Response
SLSB: *CFSRES: RESPOND SALISBURY STATION MANUAL TURNOUT 27-09-10 11:12 - CFS Salisbury Response
MFS: PLEASE CONTACT ADL FIRE. DO YOU REQUIRE SALISBURY CFS FOR DIN 025 - MFS Salisbury 329
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on September 27, 2010, 08:30:58 AM
Quote from: Darren on September 27, 2010, 02:10:01 AM
And you reckon we send to many useless messages!!!
I agree Darren i mean seriously if ya dont make the truck to get to the incident you dont need to know details!
I wonder if this is brigade initiated or GO initiated?
Seems the whole group does it so maybe Group initiated?? but seriously its a bit much
WELL GUYS - THAT WAS THE LAST PAGER TEST...., THIS IS BURRA STATION SIGNING OFF FOR THE LAST TIME - SEE YOU ALL OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE!, SO DOLLMAN/ASF
STOCKMAN/FF SOUTH
Well done on the long years of service you have given to the Burra township, sadly it has come to an end.
MFS: *CFSRES INC021 01/10/10 09:35,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CFS HOUSE - 60 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP A A 11 TG182,STRONG SMELL OF SMOKE ON LVL 7,ADL205 CAR041 ADL201 ADL203 ADL204
MFS: SNR OFF GRP:INC021 1ST ALARM RESPONSE TO STRONG SMELL OF SMOKE, LEVEL 7, CFS HOUSE, 60 WAYMOUTH ST, CITY. NO ALARM COVERAGE DUE TO RENOVATIONS, CREWS INV POSSIBLE WELDING IN AREA, DO FOODY IN ATTENDANCE
04-10-10 18:01:54 Reminder Kadina Brigade meeting tomorrow night 5/10/10 1900hrs. Election for Captain to be held. Steve - CFS Kadina Info
strange thing to be happening just after AGM time
04-10-10 17:26:09 RESPOND:, PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP MAIN ENT FOYER WORMALD, BURRA HOSPITAL, COMMERCIAL ST, BURRA *CFSRES: - MFS Burra Response
Ghosts?
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 04, 2010, 04:59:02 PM
04-10-10 18:01:54 Reminder Kadina Brigade meeting tomorrow night 5/10/10 1900hrs. Election for Captain to be held. Steve - CFS Kadina Info
strange thing to be happening just after AGM time
Could be the Captain got voted into a group position after the brigade elections.
Quote from: safireservice on October 04, 2010, 07:03:04 PM
04-10-10 17:26:09 RESPOND:, PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP MAIN ENT FOYER WORMALD, BURRA HOSPITAL, COMMERCIAL ST, BURRA *CFSRES: - MFS Burra Response
Ghosts?
ROMTEK hasn't been moved from old SAMFS station - waiting for new ASE's to be installed in monitored premises - so alarms still come up as MFS!
MFS: *CFSRES INC073 06/10/10 20:56,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GAWLER - MALLALA RD MALLALA ,MALLALA MAP 0 0 0 TG100,10 KM FROM MALLALA,GAW359 MALL00 - MFS Gawler 359
Nice night for a drive
speaking of long drives....
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/10/10 10:59,RESPOND RCR,STUART HWY,COOBER PEDY MAP 0 0 0 TG070,240 KMS SOUTH - CONFIRMED 2 TRAPPED,CPD029 COOB00 - CFS Coober Pedy Response
Quote from: SA Firey on October 06, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC073 06/10/10 20:56,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GAWLER - MALLALA RD MALLALA ,MALLALA MAP 0 0 0 TG100,10 KM FROM MALLALA,GAW359 MALL00 - MFS Gawler 359
Nice night for a drive
Cant miss out now can they?
Quote from: safireservice on October 06, 2010, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on October 06, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC073 06/10/10 20:56,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GAWLER - MALLALA RD MALLALA ,MALLALA MAP 0 0 0 TG100,10 KM FROM MALLALA,GAW359 MALL00 - MFS Gawler 359
Nice night for a drive
Cant miss out now can they?
Would be the closest rescue by a bit if the location given is correct safireservice...
Yeah don't see any issue there, closest rescue by a fair distance, it would have been dublin otherwise who are 25 odd kms from the crash..... Gawler are 17 kms away.
Quote from: crossy on October 06, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
speaking of long drives....
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/10/10 10:59,RESPOND RCR,STUART HWY,COOBER PEDY MAP 0 0 0 TG070,240 KMS SOUTH - CONFIRMED 2 TRAPPED,CPD029 COOB00 - CFS Coober Pedy Response
Wouldnt it be nice if there was a multiagency chopper with pods as such....
Quote from: Zippy on October 07, 2010, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: crossy on October 06, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
speaking of long drives....
MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/10/10 10:59,RESPOND RCR,STUART HWY,COOBER PEDY MAP 0 0 0 TG070,240 KMS SOUTH - CONFIRMED 2 TRAPPED,CPD029 COOB00 - CFS Coober Pedy Response
Wouldnt it be nice if there was a multiagency chopper with pods as such....
Hmmm I would have thought Glendambo would have been called to this also seeing as it was 10 kms up the road from them.
QuoteHmmm I would have thought Glendambo would have been called to this also seeing as it was 10 kms up the road from them.
still a 500km round trip and another 250km trip back if they happen to get another call out.
We rang Glendambo they were busy out on the farm, would have taken them longer to get back to the house than to go to the job.
What about Woomera, Darren? Not sure how it works for them, I mean is there a limit on how far they can respond given they are a contracted service.
believe woomera cfs were also paged for the job
Quote from: gilfire99 on October 07, 2010, 07:18:10 PM
What about Woomera, Darren? Not sure how it works for them, I mean is there a limit on how far they can respond given they are a contracted service.
WES cover the township, Woomera CFS do the district and back up to the town.
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 08/10/10 15:03,RESPOND Marine Vessel,KING ST,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0,WITH MFS, LARGE VESTLE INTO ANOTHER AT,MAIN WARF, CREW ENTRAPPED IN SMALLER,VESTLE NOW SINKING. INFO TO FOLLOW
(1of2) MFS: SNR OFF GRP:INC035 PT LINCOLN MFS & SES CREWS ATTENDING 2 VESSEL COLLISION AT BRENNAN JETTY, OFF KING ST. SMALLER VESSEL (47M) HAS SUNK & LAYING ON
smaller vessel 47m??? that would have been very intresting....
Quote1919094 18:56:29 08-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC035 08/10/10 18:55,RESPOND Marine Vessel,KING ST,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,MAJOR MARINE VESSELL INCIDENT,ERV071
MFS Largs Bay LG2814 Marine Crew
How long would that take and why..??? (just curious)
Quote from: gilfire99 on October 07, 2010, 07:18:10 PM
What about Woomera, Darren? Not sure how it works for them, I mean is there a limit on how far they can respond given they are a contracted service.
Woomera ambulance attended which is a WES crew and Woomera CFS advised they were short crewed hence the Coober Pedy response.
Quote from: straps on October 08, 2010, 05:32:16 PM
Quote1919094 18:56:29 08-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC035 08/10/10 18:55,RESPOND Marine Vessel,KING ST,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,MAJOR MARINE VESSELL INCIDENT,ERV071
MFS Largs Bay LG2814 Marine Crew
How long would that take and why..??? (just curious)
No idea how long the response time may be, but responded as thats the whole point of the ERVs existence. Plus providing extra equipment. 15000L of diesel slowly leaking from the vessel. More hands the merrier when trying to contain something like that.
Quote from: crossy on October 08, 2010, 05:27:27 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 08/10/10 15:03,RESPOND Marine Vessel,KING ST,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0,WITH MFS, LARGE VESTLE INTO ANOTHER AT,MAIN WARF, CREW ENTRAPPED IN SMALLER,VESTLE NOW SINKING. INFO TO FOLLOW
(1of2) MFS: SNR OFF GRP:INC035 PT LINCOLN MFS & SES CREWS ATTENDING 2 VESSEL COLLISION AT BRENNAN JETTY, OFF KING ST. SMALLER VESSEL (47M) HAS SUNK & LAYING ON
smaller vessel 47m??? that would have been very intresting....
Not sure if your aware but the 47m vessel was hit by a 250m container ship that experienced some mechanical failure
Quote from: CFSFirey661 on October 08, 2010, 10:26:33 PM
Quote from: crossy on October 08, 2010, 05:27:27 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 08/10/10 15:03,RESPOND Marine Vessel,KING ST,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0,WITH MFS, LARGE VESTLE INTO ANOTHER AT,MAIN WARF, CREW ENTRAPPED IN SMALLER,VESTLE NOW SINKING. INFO TO FOLLOW
(1of2) MFS: SNR OFF GRP:INC035 PT LINCOLN MFS & SES CREWS ATTENDING 2 VESSEL COLLISION AT BRENNAN JETTY, OFF KING ST. SMALLER VESSEL (47M) HAS SUNK & LAYING ON
smaller vessel 47m??? that would have been very intresting....
Not sure if your aware but the 47m vessel was hit by a 250m container ship that experienced some mechanical failure
Correct, a grain ship that was being assisted by Pilot vessels to dock, suffered engine failure and collided with a tuna boat Apollo S at the wharf.
At 280kms west of Adelaide it would have taken the Gallantry some time to get there!!
Quote from: Alex on October 08, 2010, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: straps on October 08, 2010, 05:32:16 PM
Quote1919094 18:56:29 08-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC035 08/10/10 18:55,RESPOND Marine Vessel,KING ST,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,MAJOR MARINE VESSELL INCIDENT,ERV071
MFS Largs Bay LG2814 Marine Crew
How long would that take and why..??? (just curious)
No idea how long the response time may be, but responded as thats the whole point of the ERVs existence. Plus providing extra equipment. 15000L of diesel slowly leaking from the vessel. More hands the merrier when trying to contain something like that.
Bit weird though took them 4 hours to respond it? Initial job was at 3pm and they got responded at 7. I guess its still over there then?
Took 12Hrs in the end.
Quote from: safireservice on October 09, 2010, 08:58:35 AM
Bit weird though took them 4 hours to respond it? Initial job was at 3pm and they got responded at 7. I guess its still over there then?
Similar to a lot of HAZMAT calls though, going to be a slow and steady clean up. They were also organising a lot of extra equip to head over on it including police diving crews.
Quote from: Alex on October 09, 2010, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: safireservice on October 09, 2010, 08:58:35 AM
Bit weird though took them 4 hours to respond it? Initial job was at 3pm and they got responded at 7. I guess its still over there then?
Similar to a lot of HAZMAT calls though, going to be a slow and steady clean up. They were also organising a lot of extra equip to head over on it including police diving crews.
Fair enough, at least it will give the boat a good run.
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 11/10/10 15:28,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PORT RD,THEBARTON MAP 117 N 4 TG182,AMBULANCE ON FIRE IN FRONT OF BREWERY,BPK451 ADL202 - MFS Adelaide 202
Another one?!
Quote from: disOrderly on October 11, 2010, 03:33:59 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 11/10/10 15:28,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PORT RD,THEBARTON MAP 117 N 4 TG182,AMBULANCE ON FIRE IN FRONT OF BREWERY,BPK451 ADL202 - MFS Adelaide 202
Another one?!
Was out on arrival.
quality European build....the temp gets over 25 degrees and they can't cope anymore....
Or the load in the back was too heavy thanks to our obesity pandemic!
MRPH INFO: MORPHETT VALE PUMPER IS NOW OPERATIONAL. WELL DONE TEAM IT HAS BEEN A BIG EFFORT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET IT ALL DONE - THANKYOU. CAPT - CFS Morphett Vale Info
THE DENNIS RIDES AGAIN :-D
17:23:53 16-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 16/10/10 17:21,RESPOND To,HEYSEN TUNL,LEAWOOD GARDENS MAP 132 E 16 TG136,CAR BROKEN DOWN HALF WAY THROUGH TUNNEL,,UP TRACK,GLO441 - MFS Glen Osmond 441
What are we mechanics now!
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 16, 2010, 11:18:14 PM
17:23:53 16-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC046 16/10/10 17:21,RESPOND To,HEYSEN TUNL,LEAWOOD GARDENS MAP 132 E 16 TG136,CAR BROKEN DOWN HALF WAY THROUGH TUNNEL,,UP TRACK,GLO441 - MFS Glen Osmond 441
What are we mechanics now!
Crews were responded for scene protection so noone would hit them while they waited for SAPOL.
Wouldn't have got near the car with 4 appliances behind it....2nd Alarm breakdown :lol:
What a waste of tax payers money, Sorry you pay your ESL so we will do anything.....Time for those NZ bumper cops of the tunnels....
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on October 17, 2010, 05:09:35 AM
What a waste of tax payers money, Sorry you pay your ESL so we will do anything.....Time for those NZ bumper cops of the tunnels....
In the same week that someone was killed near their broken down vehicle on the same road, I think people can be forgiven for being extra careful.
Let's face it, Glen Osmond probably have more chance of saving a life directing traffic than they would watching Foxtel in their station...
18-10-10 08:16:35 MFS: SNR OFF GRP: NOTIFICATION....ERV GALLANTRY IS OFF DUTY UNTIL 1800 HRS 18/10/2010. IT WILL BE THEN SLIPPED TOMORROW MORNING AND HENCE, WILL BE UNAVAILABLE UNTIL A CONDITION ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED. COMMS A - MFS Car 41 (Southern DO)
Did the Pt Limcoln trip break it???
Quote from: CFS_Firey on October 17, 2010, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: Bill Corcoran on October 17, 2010, 05:09:35 AM
What a waste of tax payers money, Sorry you pay your ESL so we will do anything.....Time for those NZ bumper cops of the tunnels....
In the same week that someone was killed near their broken down vehicle on the same road, I think people can be forgiven for being extra careful.
Let's face it, Glen Osmond probably have more chance of saving a life directing traffic than they would watching Foxtel in their station...
The waste of time and money was the fact that it went from a single appliance response to an auto 3xStation response. Silly, just silly.
08:55:53 17-10-10 MFS: K6 10, WOULD BE GOOD TO INDICATE U R IN CFS AREA THANKS..... - MFS Glen Osmond 441 :evil:
Traffic control is not our job but that of SAPOL,hang on that right they only have one officer in a car so we have to do their work....
and only 2 vehicles between the tollgate and Mt Barker, so until they get there, someone has to do it. Agree that it didnt require a 3 appliance response, however. Politics should have stopped with 2 (1 MFS and 1 CFS), with a stop call on the CFS appliance as soon as 441 arrived.
As CFS Firey said..... I'm sure they can give up some Foxtel time to park the truck behind, not like they had to actually do anything
17-10-10 19:09:31 Northern barossa Group pre fire season meeting on Tuesday the 19 at nuri station officers and seniors please attend. from Ang captain. Any Q's ph. - CFS Angaston Info
This group name change should make life interesting as 1 of their neighbouring groups is Barossa Group
Yep, good to see the move away from group and brigades sharing like names... but its a shame the imagination couldnt be used a little more there. Same with yorke pen.
What was the old group name?
Angaston Group
19-10-10 11:43:51 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MVA, SINGLE VEHICLE FATALITY MACCLESFIELD, ALL SERVICES ON SCENE - SC EDEN > 19/10/2010 11:43:32 AM
Really? ALL services? SAMFS, SASES too? Good work!
at that location, SES from Strath probably was
Quote from: misterteddy on October 19, 2010, 12:55:55 PM
at that location, SES from Strath probably was
Magically appearing from nowhere without a turnout page or any form of notification whatsoever?
Its not hard to transmitt an accurate SIGINC message. God help us if the "Senior" Officer types can't get it right.
SES dont count....
KIDDING :-P
Mundoo Group Info: Goolwa brigade is switching all UHF radios to ch. 21 due to too much traffic on ch. 26, effective immediately. Goolwa L2 - CFS Mundoo Group Info
Should just adopt what R4 have done and go to UHF 9 (i think) right across the state!
Meh our group has used 26 for years but lots of the local trucking companies etc are using it now and so just going to a quieter talkgroup.
Yes UHFCB Ch 26 is used by road constructions companies for delivery trucks and grader movements and is very active around the outer areas of Adelaide between 0630 and about 1600 weekdays.
Will be interesting how fast the new channels will begin to be used now that the 80 channel UHF CB frequencies have been released. This comes into effect Jan 1.
Unsure if some of the older radios will cause interference on the new channels.
The CFS standard UHF CB channels are 9, 19, 29 (in that order of preference) unless an existing local arrangement is in place.
Quote from: bajdas on October 20, 2010, 08:20:09 AM
Will be interesting how fast the new channels will begin to be used now that the 80 channel UHF CB frequencies have been released. This comes into effect Jan 1.
Unsure if some of the older radios will cause interference on the new channels.
Sorry for the long post but for the information of others:
IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERNING UHF CB RADIO
Overview
The use of a UHF CB transceiver is governed by a class licence as prescribed by the Australian
Communications and Media Authority (ACMA). Currently, all UHF CB radios operate within an
allocated frequency band that is divided into 40 channels, with each channel spaced 25 kHz apart.
These radios are commonly known as 'wide band' radios.
Due to advances in technology it has now become economically viable to design and build radios
that operate in a narrower bandwidth and hence use less spectrum. These radios are known as
'narrow band' radios and operate with a channel spacing of just 12.5 kHz. By using 12.5 kHz
channel spacing instead of 25 kHz, the 40 channel allocation can be expanded to 80 channels,
doubling the channel capacity and relieving congestion in the UHF CB band.
The ACMA has recently released a proposal to allow the use of narrow band equipment in the
UHF CB band. To minimise interference to current wide band repeater and telemetry services,
the proposal recommends that narrow band radios be introduced in two stages over a 5 year
period.
Stage one proposes that from January 2011, narrow band radios will be allowed to operate using
60 of the 80 channels in the newly revised UHF CB band. However, narrow band transmissions
will not be allowed on current repeater channels 1 – 8, 31 – 38 and Telemetry channels 22 and
23. This will minimise interference to these wide band services during the transition to narrow
band technology.
Stage two will take effect after January 2016 when all 80 channels will become available for
narrow band transmissions.
What this means to the user;
- Current 40 channel wide band radiso will continue to work on the orginal channel frequencies and will operate effectively past 2016
- Current 40 channel UHF CB Radios will NOT become obsolete and will continue to operate on the original 40 channels, however they will not be able to converse on the newer channels 41-80.
Further info www.acma.gov.au (http://www.acma.gov.au)
01:01:48 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 26/10/10 01:01,RESPOND Assist SAAS,338 KINGS RD,PARAFIELD GARDENS MAP 70 L 7 TG182,PERSON HANGING FROM POWERLINES,SAL321 - MFS Salisbury 321
08:51:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC017 26/10/10 08:50,RESPOND RCR,WATERLOO CORNER RD,BURTON MAP 59 P 5 TG102,OUT FRONT OF SPRINGBANK PLAZA. FROM SAPO,L. CALLED IN FRON DISTANCE. NO FURTHER D,ETAILS.,SLSB19 SAL329 - MFS Salisbury 329
08:46:03 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 26/10/10 08:45,RESPOND ALARM 033/016,NORTHERN SOUND,71 ELIZABETH WAY,ELIZABETH MAP 51 N 13 TG182,FIP ENTRY FOYER,,GAW359 SAL321 - MFS Gawler 359
08:45:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 26/10/10 08:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ANDERSON WALK,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 D 13 TG182,AS PER YOUR PHONE CALL,SAIR55 ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
If both Eliz, salisburys and Gawlers are on different calls in Elizabeth/SAlisbury area, who's looking after Gawler?
11:53:58 26-10-10 FYI - COMMERCIAL HOTEL NOW ISOLATED READY FOR CHANGEOVER - MFS Burra Response
11:53:08 26-10-10 INFORMATION ONLY - FIRE ALARM CHANGEOVER TO ASE'S UNDERWAY OVER NEXT 2 DAYS FOR COMMERCIAL HOTEL, BURRA HOTEL & ROYAL EXCHANGE HOTEL., WE ARE WORKING TO AVOID UNNECESSARY FALSE ALARMS BUT CANT PROMISE! - MFS Burra Response
27-10-10 21:18:47 MFS: ANOTHER GREAT SAVE BY THE BUSIEST SINGLE APPLIANCE STATION - MFS Paradise 221 Response
(1of2) Small fire in bakery 1 x h/p line Fire now out Premises smoke loggged Plant room of adjoining woolworths store smoke logged no fire venting in progress.P - MFS Car 31 (Northern DO)
Good job lads :-D
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 27, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
08:51:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC017 26/10/10 08:50,RESPOND RCR,WATERLOO CORNER RD,BURTON MAP 59 P 5 TG102,OUT FRONT OF SPRINGBANK PLAZA. FROM SAPO,L. CALLED IN FRON DISTANCE. NO FURTHER D,ETAILS.,SLSB19 SAL329 - MFS Salisbury 329
08:46:03 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 26/10/10 08:45,RESPOND ALARM 033/016,NORTHERN SOUND,71 ELIZABETH WAY,ELIZABETH MAP 51 N 13 TG182,FIP ENTRY FOYER,,GAW359 SAL321 - MFS Gawler 359
08:45:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 26/10/10 08:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ANDERSON WALK,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 D 13 TG182,AS PER YOUR PHONE CALL,SAIR55 ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
If both Eliz, salisburys and Gawlers are on different calls in Elizabeth/SAlisbury area, who's looking after Gawler?
Dalkeith, Gawler River, Roseworthy, Concordia...
Quote from: Zippy on October 27, 2010, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 27, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
08:51:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC017 26/10/10 08:50,RESPOND RCR,WATERLOO CORNER RD,BURTON MAP 59 P 5 TG102,OUT FRONT OF SPRINGBANK PLAZA. FROM SAPO,L. CALLED IN FRON DISTANCE. NO FURTHER D,ETAILS.,SLSB19 SAL329 - MFS Salisbury 329
08:46:03 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 26/10/10 08:45,RESPOND ALARM 033/016,NORTHERN SOUND,71 ELIZABETH WAY,ELIZABETH MAP 51 N 13 TG182,FIP ENTRY FOYER,,GAW359 SAL321 - MFS Gawler 359
08:45:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 26/10/10 08:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ANDERSON WALK,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 D 13 TG182,AS PER YOUR PHONE CALL,SAIR55 ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
If both Eliz, salisburys and Gawlers are on different calls in Elizabeth/SAlisbury area, who's looking after Gawler?
Dalkeith, Gawler River, Roseworthy, Concordia...
So if there was a house fire or something, you'd have to wait 10 or so minutes alone for cfs to get a crew and that is if they don't default...........
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 28, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: Zippy on October 27, 2010, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 27, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
08:51:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC017 26/10/10 08:50,RESPOND RCR,WATERLOO CORNER RD,BURTON MAP 59 P 5 TG102,OUT FRONT OF SPRINGBANK PLAZA. FROM SAPO,L. CALLED IN FRON DISTANCE. NO FURTHER D,ETAILS.,SLSB19 SAL329 - MFS Salisbury 329
08:46:03 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 26/10/10 08:45,RESPOND ALARM 033/016,NORTHERN SOUND,71 ELIZABETH WAY,ELIZABETH MAP 51 N 13 TG182,FIP ENTRY FOYER,,GAW359 SAL321 - MFS Gawler 359
08:45:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 26/10/10 08:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ANDERSON WALK,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 D 13 TG182,AS PER YOUR PHONE CALL,SAIR55 ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
If both Eliz, salisburys and Gawlers are on different calls in Elizabeth/SAlisbury area, who's looking after Gawler?
Dalkeith, Gawler River, Roseworthy, Concordia...
So if there was a house fire or something, you'd have to wait 10 or so minutes alone for cfs to get a crew and that is if they don't default...........
Yeh but if we were paid, we would be quicker....coz we would be sitting around all day doing FA, waiting for the bells to drop...sound familiar? :wink:
Quote from: jaff on October 28, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 28, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: Zippy on October 27, 2010, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 27, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
08:51:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC017 26/10/10 08:50,RESPOND RCR,WATERLOO CORNER RD,BURTON MAP 59 P 5 TG102,OUT FRONT OF SPRINGBANK PLAZA. FROM SAPO,L. CALLED IN FRON DISTANCE. NO FURTHER D,ETAILS.,SLSB19 SAL329 - MFS Salisbury 329
08:46:03 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 26/10/10 08:45,RESPOND ALARM 033/016,NORTHERN SOUND,71 ELIZABETH WAY,ELIZABETH MAP 51 N 13 TG182,FIP ENTRY FOYER,,GAW359 SAL321 - MFS Gawler 359
08:45:12 26-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC015 26/10/10 08:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ANDERSON WALK,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 D 13 TG182,AS PER YOUR PHONE CALL,SAIR55 ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
If both Eliz, salisburys and Gawlers are on different calls in Elizabeth/SAlisbury area, who's looking after Gawler?
Dalkeith, Gawler River, Roseworthy, Concordia...
So if there was a house fire or something, you'd have to wait 10 or so minutes alone for cfs to get a crew and that is if they don't default...........
Yeh but if we were paid, we would be quicker....coz we would be sitting around all day doing FA, waiting for the bells to drop...sound familiar? :wink:
Not having a go at CFS response times, just lack of resources for a MFS area
And its due to the lack of resources, that Gawler would just have to cope with how the rest of SA copes..
Its no different when you throw 6 alarms at a fire and CFS have to cover MFS area, in this scenario, the risk is lack of training and awareness of the area.
12:59:39 29-10-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: R6 CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING ISSUES WITH SEVERAL GRN SITES DUE TO SEVERE WEATHER - SC <name> > 29/10/2010 12:59:25 PM - CFS HQ Info
13:19:46 29-10-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: R6 GRN TOWER ISSUES HAVE NOW BEEN RESOLVED - SC <name> 29/10/2010 1:19:35 PM - CFS HQ Info
Is voice and pager both affected ? How many sites ? At least CFS have another radio to use.
Quote from: Alex on October 18, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
Yep, good to see the move away from group and brigades sharing like names... but its a shame the imagination couldnt be used a little more there. Same with yorke pen.
Perhaps you could use your imagination and come up with a better suggestion for their names?
21:12:50 30-10-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC108 30/10/10 21:11,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,16 DULKARA RD,INGLE FARM MAP 95 B 1 TG182,CAR HAS HIT A LETTER BOX, SPED OFF AND L,EFT DEBIS AND OIL OVER RD, UNKNOWN IF VE,HICLE IS STILL ON SCENE,OAK301 - MFS Oakden 301
I thought it sped off
31-10-10 00:00:27 MFS: *CFSRES INC120 30/10/10 23:58,RESPOND To,CROSS RD,MYRTLE BANK MAP 131 B 12 TG182,MAN HOLE COVER ON ROAD HAS COME OFF EXPO,SING HOLE. JUST AFTER RIDGE AVE HEADED T,OWARDS THE FREEWAY,GLO441 - MFS Glen Osmond 441
120 incidents in 27 seconds?? Lol kidding, i take it the CRD system assigns a DIN when the operator starts the process hence yesterdays incident number on todays incident?? maybe one of the operators can confirm??
An surely at midnight the road isnt that busy that someone couldnt just drop the cover back in?
Edit: Now taking bets, how long before someone says SACAD will fix it?
Quote from: Number one on October 30, 2010, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Alex on October 18, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
Yep, good to see the move away from group and brigades sharing like names... but its a shame the imagination couldnt be used a little more there. Same with yorke pen.
Perhaps you could use your imagination and come up with a better suggestion for their names?
Hahah. Obviously someone involved in the decision? I cant think of another name personally as i dont know the area that well mate, but i think everyone would agree that having groups with almost like names is not a great move when the whole idea of moving away from brigades and groups sharing names was to create less confusion.
01-11-10 21:53:02 TO ALL BRIGADE MEMBERS TEMPORARY LOCK ON STATION, KEY IN METER BOX FROM RODNEY - CFS ****** Info
ummmmm :-o
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Quote from: bajdas on October 20, 2010, 08:20:09 AM
Will be interesting how fast the new channels will begin to be used now that the 80 channel UHF CB frequencies have been released. This comes into effect Jan 1.
Unsure if some of the older radios will cause interference on the new channels.
Good Evening all
Interference from older radios shouldn't create to many problems given that UHF CB only uses 5 watts of power, that of course doesn't mean there wont be a problem if someone is transmitting from 20 meters away
The biggest problem will be audio quality between 80 channel radios and older 40 channel ones
However the full extent of the problem wont be evident until final radio specs are signed off on by the ACMA
Regards
Ray
UHF CB Australia
http://www.uhfcb.com.au (http://www.uhfcb.com.au)
19:17:29 09-11-10 MFS: WE HAVE HAD TO FIELD CALLS FROM THE ADVERTISER RE THE FACTORY FIRE.... - MFS Adelaide 201
12:10:56 11-11-10 MFS: CHANGE AQARDURS TO - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
09:01:25 15-11-10 MFS: CALLER SAW CAR ON FIRE WHILST IT WAS MOVING. YOU MAY HAVE TO TRACK IT DOWN :-) - MFS Paradise 221 Response
:-o
15-11-10 11:08:10 CRML INFO: SPEED CAMERA MAIN ROAD CORO, IN BUS STOP BY BOTTOM OF ACKLANDS HILL ROAD - CFS Coromandel Valley Info
I thought we were meant to obey all road rules on the way to the station. If so then a page like this really isnt necessary......
Quote from: JJD on November 15, 2010, 08:17:12 PM
15-11-10 11:08:10 CRML INFO: SPEED CAMERA MAIN ROAD CORO, IN BUS STOP BY BOTTOM OF ACKLANDS HILL ROAD - CFS Coromandel Valley Info
I thought we were meant to obey all road rules on the way to the station. If so then a page like this really isnt necessary......
Surely this would be a misue of resources (ie. the paging network). As mentioned above, if the road rules were being obeyed there would have been no need for a message like this.
I hope the person who sent out this message is counseled. By all means promote safe driving, but blatant attempts to avoid speed cameras are unwelcome.
Quote from: Fire000 on November 15, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
Quote from: JJD on November 15, 2010, 08:17:12 PM
15-11-10 11:08:10 CRML INFO: SPEED CAMERA MAIN ROAD CORO, IN BUS STOP BY BOTTOM OF ACKLANDS HILL ROAD - CFS Coromandel Valley Info
I thought we were meant to obey all road rules on the way to the station. If so then a page like this really isnt necessary......
Surely this would be a misue of resources (ie. the paging network). As mentioned above, if the road rules were being obeyed there would have been no need for a message like this.
I hope the person who sent out this message is counseled. By all means promote safe driving, but blatant attempts to avoid speed cameras are unwelcome.
Maybe it's a heads up for when they are responding....in the truck, to log a triggered flashy. :wink:
So whats the difference in sending a page to members advising of the camera, and the camera's position being printed in the paper, or announced on various radio stations?
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on November 16, 2010, 07:31:57 AM
So whats the difference in sending a page to members advising of the camera, and the camera's position being printed in the paper, or announced on various radio stations?
Pip
The TV and radio aren't government owned resources. Then again it prob only cost $0.0000001 to send out, so was insignificant, and may have got some people up that way to slow down last night. You're forgiven Mr Coro :-)
15:19:17 16-11-10 MV71 CatB Myponga-yankalilla Rd, Myponga
15:24:08 16-11-10 Y81 CatB Myponga-yankalilla Rd, Myponga
15:51:08 16-11-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC050 16/11/10 15:50,RESPOND RCR,MAIN SOUTH RD MYPONGA ,MYPONGA MAP 0 0 0 TG144,YANKALILLA SIDE OF RESERVOIR. ENTRAPMENT,MYPN00 YANK19 - CFS Southern Fleurieu Group Officers Response
Nice effort there :oops:
Quote from: Fire000 on November 15, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
I hope the person who sent out this message is counseled. By all means promote safe driving, but blatant attempts to avoid speed cameras are unwelcome.
Yes, time to be counseled for looking after your mates.
Get real :x
Quote from: tft on November 16, 2010, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: Fire000 on November 15, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
I hope the person who sent out this message is counseled. By all means promote safe driving, but blatant attempts to avoid speed cameras are unwelcome.
Yes, time to be counseled for looking after your mates.
Get real :x
Tft,
If you care about your mates, you'd want them to be driving safe all the time, not just when there's a speed camera around the place.
If was just my view that the paging service shouldn't be used as a speed camera lookout service. No need for the personal attacks Tft.
The amount of time,effort and unpaid expenses we ALL put in to volunteering if someone wants to use the paging system to alert speed camera's or wish a happy birthday well so be it. Been going on for years and will go on for many more!
Its funny, people complaining about the speed camera page. Seen some of the crap MFS are putting over latetly? Oh sorry i forgot, theyre professionals so its ok :?
Quote from: Fire000 on November 16, 2010, 05:17:45 PM
Tft,
If you care about your mates, you'd want them to be driving safe all the time, not just when there's a speed camera around the place.
If was just my view that the paging service shouldn't be used as a speed camera lookout service. No need for the personal attacks Tft.
It shouldn't really be used for it, but always has in that area. Crews have never been told not to by officers or regions, etc etc. So im guessing they dont have any probs with it.
No worse than birthday wishes or baby welcoming.
Quote from: brenjoe on November 15, 2010, 11:58:33 AM
09:01:25 15-11-10 MFS: CALLER SAW CAR ON FIRE WHILST IT WAS MOVING. YOU MAY HAVE TO TRACK IT DOWN :-) - MFS Paradise 221 Response
:-o
Well it is classed as Mobile Property under AIIRS :-D
19-11-10 11:56:04 MEMBERS AVAILALE FOR SANDBAGGING FOR SCHOOLIES BE AT UNIT FOR DEPAERTURE AT 1300 - SES South Coast Response
What do they sandbag?
Waves of vomit
Quote19-11-10 11:56:04 MEMBERS AVAILALE FOR SANDBAGGING FOR SCHOOLIES BE AT UNIT FOR DEPAERTURE AT 1300 - SES South Coast Response
Probably for the ST John medical facility (shakes head....)
MFS: *CFSRES INC055 19/11/10 17:35,RESPOND To,LONG ISLAND RD,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 350 F 12 TG206,TOILET BLOCK ALIGHT AT MARINA END OF,LONG ISLAND RD. MFS UNABLE TO RAISE CREW,MURR00
11:02:50 19-11-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 19/11/10 11:02,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KAPUNDA ,KAPUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG194,CNR BLACKJOES RD AND MARRABEL RD. GRASS,FIRE IN PADDOCK.,SAIR55 MRBL00 TARL00 EUDN19 - CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response
11:22:27 19-11-10 R2OPS: REQUIRE PREDERTERMINED CREW FOR R2HQ, 2ND ALARM GRASSFIRE IN GILBERT GROUP. PLEASE CONTACT CAPT IF AVAILABLE 0415 990 598. **DO NOT RESPOND**. BDO. - CFS R2 Ops Brigade Info
Isn't Kapunda in Light Group?
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC059 22/11/10 14:01,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,67 STRATHALBYN RD,ALDGATE MAP 157 N 2 TG136,RESPOND BARKER 34P AS REQUESTED BY LOFTY, CAPT. ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER AND STIRLING, ON ROUTE.,MBKR19 - CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
Interesting.. quite a few trucks closer than them?
Quote from: Alex on November 22, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
Interesting.. quite a few trucks closer than them?
Often is. Is Barker34P allowed to go so far out of the area
Quote from: Alex on November 22, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
Interesting.. quite a few trucks closer than them?
I believe they were nearby after a previous incident at Hahndorf?
Quote from: vsteve01 on November 22, 2010, 12:58:28 PM
Often is. Is Barker34P allowed to go so far out of the area
Why wouldn't it be?
Quote from: tft on November 19, 2010, 04:30:24 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC055 19/11/10 17:35,RESPOND To,LONG ISLAND RD,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 350 F 12 TG206,TOILET BLOCK ALIGHT AT MARINA END OF,LONG ISLAND RD. MFS UNABLE TO RAISE CREW,MURR00
My god, someone struggled to get a crew....that NEVER happens....in fact I reckon someone that gets a crew these days should be posted, as that is RARE !
Quote from: Alex on November 22, 2010, 12:51:46 PM
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC059 22/11/10 14:01,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,67 STRATHALBYN RD,ALDGATE MAP 157 N 2 TG136,RESPOND BARKER 34P AS REQUESTED BY LOFTY, CAPT. ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER AND STIRLING, ON ROUTE.,MBKR19 - CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
Interesting.. quite a few trucks closer than them?
They were at an alarm at Hahndorf and owing to their reliability probably ACTUALLY had a BA crew....another example of why training needs a HUGE boost...
Quote from: CFS_Firey on November 22, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: vsteve01 on November 22, 2010, 12:58:28 PM
Often is. Is Barker34P allowed to go so far out of the area
Why wouldn't it be?
Figured it would leave Mt Barker and surrounds short on fire cover, but considering they were in Hahndorf good thinking from someone.
They go on strike teams all the time as other brigades do.
They still cover the area.
I am not sure of the problem with this.
Quote from: tft on November 22, 2010, 04:27:40 PM
They go on strike teams all the time as other brigades do.
They still cover the area.
I am not sure of the problem with this.
They have two other trucks. No issues with going out of area. I was curious as to why the likes of mylor, bradbury, upper sturt etc didnt go.
Yes, other brigades are closer. But Mt Barker had a crew and were at Hahndorf.
So they should nave been able to respond quicker.
Sounds ok
A System similar to SAAS's Cat A and Cat B Alerts over GRN could be trialed to use in similar scenarios today.
GRN 124: *emerg tones* Domestic Fire Aldgate, Crews from Aldgate and Bridgewater.
And appliance in earshot on the road, with a crew, with the right crew, within reason should be able to call up on air for the job and track priority 2 towards the location.
(Just an Idea)
Quote1924962 18:51:58 22-11-10 TM81 CatC Upper Sturt Rd, Hawthorndene 155 D1
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
Incorrect page or passing through..??
may have been on the way back from a transfer to town and been closer car,,, i know goolwa often do jobs in the southern suburbs when they are on their way back from transfers etc
1924962 13:04:03 23-11-10 CS6 CatB Main South Rd, O'halloran Hill 165 D14
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
Who is CS6?
Quote from: SAMFS09 on November 23, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
Who is CS6?
According to http://www.sascan.net.au/?page=infPages/infAmbulance (http://www.sascan.net.au/?page=infPages/infAmbulance)
Clinical Support Officers
1925587 22:48:3926-11-10 CT174 SOT REQUIRED AT THE AIRPORT ASAP FOR A SEARCH
SAAS Unit City
1925587 22:48:39 26-11-10 CT174 SOT REQUIRED AT THE AIRPORT ASAP FOR A SEARCH
SAAS Unit City
Does anyone know what the search was for. I know why it was sent to the city squad though.
29-11-10 19:27:12 LYNDOCH 24 TO REMAIN ON SCENE TONIGHT FOLLOWING AN OPERATIONAL INCIDENT. TO BE RECOVERED TOMORROW MORNING 0900. MEMBERS RETURNED SAFE. ********* *********** - CFS Barossa Officers Info
Anyone know what happened? Hope it was nothing too serious, glad to see the crew were returned safe.
They had a Grass fire out that way.
MFS: *CFSRES INC042 29/11/10 13:56,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LYNDOCH CFS,LYNDOCH MAP 0 0 0 TG096,TWEEDIES GULLY RD GRASS FIRE GETTING NEA,R HOUSE,SAIR55 LYND00 WLLM19
probably got bogged
Haven't had a chance to catch up with anyone who attended as yet, but believe they got themselves into a spot of bother on a very steep slope, don't know if they were pointing down hill or sideways. The only comment I have heard is don't sneeze in the area. Also they were not alone (thats all I'll say on that) :evil:
Quote from: Fire000 on November 29, 2010, 08:34:10 PM
29-11-10 19:27:12 LYNDOCH 24 TO REMAIN ON SCENE TONIGHT FOLLOWING AN OPERATIONAL INCIDENT. TO BE RECOVERED TOMORROW MORNING 0900. MEMBERS RETURNED SAFE. ********* *********** - CFS Barossa Officers Info
Anyone know what happened? Hope it was nothing too serious, glad to see the crew were returned safe.
Have got a lot more of the story now.
2 trucks were working a flank down a hill towards a fire track they could see from the top. What they couldn't see was the 1 metre vertical drop from the paddock onto the track.
They attempted to turn the trucks and drive across the slope to a point where access could be obtained, however the slope turned out to be greater than anticipated and the decision was made to abandon the trucks (and avoid a rollover) until extra help could be obtained.
That came in the form of a tractor this morning, so as they say in the fairy tails they all lived happily ever after, except the drivers who will cop a ribbing for a long time yet. :lol:
Sounds like the driver did the right thing,better to stop and get the crews off the appliance and recover the 24 in the morning.
30-11-10 17:07:43 LYNDOCH 24 OFF LINE FOR REPAIRS DUE TO ENGINE FUEL & TEMPERATURE PROBLEMS. LYNDOCH 34P TO BE USED UNTIL REPAIRS CARRIED OUT. ********* **********. - CFS Lyndoch Info
Looks like Lyndoch 24 was a little worse for wear following its big day out yesterday. A timely reminder of the dangers faced when driving offroad in a smokey environment. Good decision by the driver/OIC to stop before the truck rolled, could have averted disaster by doing this.
quck question off topic,,, how many brigades out there do minor maintenance to their vehicles after attending significant fires, eg blowing all the soot dust and particles from the trucks air filter?
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on December 01, 2010, 07:32:23 AM
quck question off topic,,, how many brigades out there do minor maintenance to their vehicles after attending significant fires, eg blowing all the soot dust and particles from the trucks air filter?
Because of the stupid setup with the current 34s we have to as often as possible to avoid overheating issues...
Same here, we always have to check the radiators on our 2006 build 34 as they clog up and cause the truck to overheat.
Interestingly we've just been told we will be having a snorkel fitted as lots of brigades have issues with the air-cleaners blocking up but we have never experienced anything major with the air cleaner.
Im not a mechanic, or mechanically minded... but it will be interesting to see how much [if any] differance a snorkel makes, as the issue is the radiator not the air intake?
Let me clarify - our issue has always been with the radiators.
However, several R1 trucks of same build have reported having major air cleaner issues (to the point where they have had to stop and clean filter out during an incident) therefore I&L have had Tremmel Tooling design a retro-fit snorkel that is to be installed on all trucks of that build.
Ahhk Shiner, ours is a 2007 [or 6?] build and has radiator cloggin issues.
i have only ever once had radiator issues but that was from driving through reeds 7ft hight that had been burnt,, however the problem we have had with our previous 2005 isuzu 34 and now with our 2009 isuzu 34 was when the air filters became too clogged not enough air was able to get into the engine and it went into "safe" mode and basically shut down the turbo and alot of the trucks power..
the newer 34, only the check engine light has come on, on the dash however the older 34 had the turbo issues, once the air filter was cleaned on both trucks the issue was then gone.
02-12-10 17:54:34 LYNDOCH 24 AT TORRENS VALLEY MECHANICAL SPRINGTON FOR BLOCKED RADIATOR & CRUD IN FUEL TANK/SYSTEM. ********* **********. - CFS Barossa Officers Info
So now we know why Lyndoch 24 is offline and at Dr. Springton. Wonder what caused the radiator blockage and 'crud in fuel system'.
21:25:57 03-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC083 03/12/10 21:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MORNEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 K 9 TG182,CAR V 70YR OLD MALE, NEAR GOUGER ST.,ADL203 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
21:22:26 03-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC082 03/12/10 21:21,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PIRIE ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 11 TG182,CAR V 9YR OLD GIRL. OUTSIDE THE WINSTON,HOTEL,ADL201 - MFS Adelaide 201
the world is weird ey..
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 04/12/10 12:11,RESPOND ALARM 056/003,BURRA HOTEL,5 MARKET SQ,BURRA MAP TG067,ASE DEVICE 2120,FIP INSIDE MAIN ENTRY,BRRA19 BUR561 - MFS Burra Response
from beyond the grave??
Yup - the spirit of Station 56 lives on!
Quote from: 561 on December 04, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
Yup - the spirit of Station 56 lives on!
LOL Thought that had been reprogrammed :-D
They have reprogrammed SOME of it - up to this call they where still telling CFS to use TG194 for jobs in the old MFS area!
The wheels turn slowly.....
14:50:41 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,B DOUBLE JACK KNIFED OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY,COLLEGE,MUDL00 - CFS Mudla Wirra Response
14:42:09 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY COLLEGE,GAW359 WOOL00 - CFS Light Group Officers Response
HMmmm... Roseworthys area but didn't get a turnout?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 05, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
14:50:41 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,B DOUBLE JACK KNIFED OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY,COLLEGE,MUDL00 - CFS Mudla Wirra Response
14:42:09 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY COLLEGE,GAW359 WOOL00 - CFS Light Group Officers Response
HMmmm... Roseworthys area but didn't get a turnout?
Mudla Wirra's area mate. There station is actually part of the campus. More interesting would be the lack of a rescue on the initial page.
Quote from: Alex on December 05, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
More interesting would be the lack of a rescue on the initial page.
Perhaps it was established that a rescue appliance was not required. If anything a jacknifed truck would be a job for a heavy haulage company. Would have been a different story if there were entrapments.
Quote from: Alex on December 05, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 05, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
14:50:41 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,B DOUBLE JACK KNIFED OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY,COLLEGE,MUDL00 - CFS Mudla Wirra Response
14:42:09 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY COLLEGE,GAW359 WOOL00 - CFS Light Group Officers Response
HMmmm... Roseworthys area but didn't get a turnout?
Mudla Wirra's area mate. There station is actually part of the campus. More interesting would be the lack of a rescue on the initial page.
ummm the initial page does have rescue? note the 2nd page does have an earlier time?
Quote from: safireservice on December 05, 2010, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 05, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 05, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
14:50:41 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,B DOUBLE JACK KNIFED OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY,COLLEGE,MUDL00 - CFS Mudla Wirra Response
14:42:09 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY COLLEGE,GAW359 WOOL00 - CFS Light Group Officers Response
HMmmm... Roseworthys area but didn't get a turnout?
Mudla Wirra's area mate. There station is actually part of the campus. More interesting would be the lack of a rescue on the initial page.
ummm the initial page does have rescue? note the 2nd page does have an earlier time?
Aaah good point mate, ill have to put my glasses on next time.
Fire000 - entrapments or not any MVA outside the metro area must have rescue per the RCRD.
Quote from: Alex on December 05, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 05, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
14:50:41 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,B DOUBLE JACK KNIFED OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY,COLLEGE,MUDL00 - CFS Mudla Wirra Response
14:42:09 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY COLLEGE,GAW359 WOOL00 - CFS Light Group Officers Response
HMmmm... Roseworthys area but didn't get a turnout?
Mudla Wirra's area mate. There station is actually part of the campus. More interesting would be the lack of a rescue on the initial page.
Thanks Alex.But i've noticed that private alarms at the campus are responded by roseworthy and muddla wirra, hence why i'm quering why roseworthy werent responded and muddla wirra were called on a second page. I don't believe woolsheds are a rescue unit
I think its the suburb that put the response out of whack, there was always a rescue going, Wasleys as fire cover, then the response was corrected to Mudla Wirra, I think you will find Roseworthy respond to the college for BA etc.
15:48:57 06-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC061 06/12/10 15:48,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MURRAY RD,WILLASTON MAP 23 M 2 TG182,CAR INTO THE RIVER AT THE FLOODWAY NEAR,BMX TRACK,GAW359 - MFS Gawler 359
Too bad they don't have a whinch any more :-P
They have a tirfor, hopefully they can work that out.
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 06, 2010, 01:02:03 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 05, 2010, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 05, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
14:50:41 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:50,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,B DOUBLE JACK KNIFED OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY,COLLEGE,MUDL00 - CFS Mudla Wirra Response
14:42:09 05-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 05/12/10 14:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MUDLA WIRRA RD,WASLEYS MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OUTSIDE ROSEWORTHY COLLEGE,GAW359 WOOL00 - CFS Light Group Officers Response
HMmmm... Roseworthys area but didn't get a turnout?
Mudla Wirra's area mate. There station is actually part of the campus. More interesting would be the lack of a rescue on the initial page.
Thanks Alex.But i've noticed that private alarms at the campus are responded by roseworthy and muddla wirra, hence why i'm quering why roseworthy werent responded and muddla wirra were called on a second page. I don't believe woolsheds are a rescue unit
359 as rescue on there with woolsheds mate.
Just to clarify, because obviously some people aren't aware. Appliance "codes" ending in "9" (i.e. "19" - CFS "**9" - MFS "029" - SES are all rescue units).
"00" On a CFS code means fire only (may have chainsaw, BA, etc) while "28" on a CFS code is HAZMAT. "42" is a BWC.
07-12-10 23:19:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC355 07/12/10 23:18,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PETERBOROUGH MFS,PETERBOROUGH MAP 0 0 0 TG194,SAAS CAR BOGGED NEAR AIRPORT....NEED YOU,R HELP ASAP,PBR559 - MFS Peterborough Response
I bet when you normally see "assist SAAS" this isn't the first thing you would think of!!
1925583 06:11:07 08-12-10 Category 3
SAAS Unit Aldinga
1925581 06:23:56 08-12-10 Category 1 / 2 URGMSG
SAAS Unit O'Halloran Hill
Since midnight, these cat 1,2,3's have been the messages sent to every metro unit via online paging website. Is it an error or are SAAS considering of changing back to cat 1,2,3's
Looks like the system that saas refer to when their usual paging system has isses?
Quote1929675 08:17:15 08-12-10 INFO ONLY at this stage...EOC systems down and on manual operation for unknown time, possibly 10hrs- SDM
Reckon Big Al is right...
Quote from: SOT man Mike on December 08, 2010, 05:03:59 AM
1925583 06:11:07 08-12-10 Category 3
SAAS Unit Aldinga
1925581 06:23:56 08-12-10 Category 1 / 2 URGMSG
SAAS Unit O'Halloran Hill
Since midnight, these cat 1,2,3's have been the messages sent to every metro unit via online paging website. Is it an error or are SAAS considering of changing back to cat 1,2,3's
contingency
Quote from: SOT man Mike on December 08, 2010, 05:03:59 AM
1925583 06:11:07 08-12-10 Category 3
SAAS Unit Aldinga
1925581 06:23:56 08-12-10 Category 1 / 2 URGMSG
SAAS Unit O'Halloran Hill
Since midnight, these cat 1,2,3's have been the messages sent to every metro unit via online paging website. Is it an error or are SAAS considering of changing back to cat 1,2,3's
The reason for these responses was that the SAAS CAD system was down and the operators were doing everything manually....including telling crews to talk slowly :-D
At dicatation speed of course :lol:
1916000 21:13:04 08-12-10 Allcrews: EOC on manual (no CAD) SDM Snell.
SAAS Group page ??
Manual Again
Yep...SACAD can't happen quick enough for the 20year old system still in play......
Quote from: boredmatrix on December 08, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Yep...SACAD can't happen quick enough for the 20year old system still in play......
All Hail SACAD!
Require up to 10 persons per brigade to respond salisbury station to go to Stockport for evacuation and salvage busleaving shortly from Group Officer
Thats ALOT of members per brigade to commit to that...
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on December 09, 2010, 01:48:53 PM
Require up to 10 persons per brigade to respond salisbury station to go to Stockport for evacuation and salvage busleaving shortly from Group Officer
Thats ALOT of members per brigade to commit to that...
1909127 16:57:18 09-12-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MULTIPLE BRIGADES RESPONDING HAZMAT STOCKPORT, DIESEL SPILL SAPOL AND EPA ADVISED, SEE CRIIMSON FURTHER DETAILS - SC EDEN > 9/12/2010 4:57:04 PM
well I guess the water has got into underground tanks.....MMMMMM who has a match....
Quote from: SOT man Mike on December 09, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on December 09, 2010, 01:48:53 PM
Require up to 10 persons per brigade to respond salisbury station to go to Stockport for evacuation and salvage busleaving shortly from Group Officer
Thats ALOT of members per brigade to commit to that...
1909127 16:57:18 09-12-10 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: MULTIPLE BRIGADES RESPONDING HAZMAT STOCKPORT, DIESEL SPILL SAPOL AND EPA ADVISED, SEE CRIIMSON FURTHER DETAILS - SC EDEN > 9/12/2010 4:57:04 PM
Those are completely unrelated
10 people per brigade is a bit much to ask these days, not without affecting normal turnouts, not to mention from a VERY busy group!
our crew from my brigade, a crew of 4, managed to render the brigade pretty much offline, and this was a for a 11am flooding call.
Looking at how many people probably took a day off at work to assist at two wells alone, asking for that many people from a small selection of brigades is a big ask indeed.
Some groups in Region 1 got completely missed, where you could just take a command car full of volunteers to man appliances from closer by...meanwhile, i spotted coomandook 34 at two wells...
Quote from: pumprescue on December 09, 2010, 09:12:33 PM
10 people per brigade is a bit much to ask these days, not without affecting normal turnouts, not to mention from a VERY busy group!
It's probably worth noting that the page said "up to 10" not "a minimum of 10". I'm sure brigades didn't feel that each had to supply 10 people...
01:33:48 13-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC003 13/12/10 01:33,RESPOND Rescue Animal,23 EUGENE CR,PARAFIELD GARDENS MAP 70 G 12 TG182,TWO DOGS STUCK TOGETHER ONE CHOKING,SAL321 - MFS Salisbury 321
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 13, 2010, 10:44:55 AM
01:33:48 13-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC003 13/12/10 01:33,RESPOND Rescue Animal,23 EUGENE CR,PARAFIELD GARDENS MAP 70 G 12 TG182,TWO DOGS STUCK TOGETHER ONE CHOKING,SAL321 - MFS Salisbury 321
Poor dogs, wonder how that happened
20:19:50 13-12-10 URGENT MEETING WEDNESDAY NIGHT 1930 HOURS TO DISCUSS MORGAN CFS FUTURE. ALL MEMBERS URGED TO ATTEND. - CFS Morgan Info
1924962 11:50:28 18-12-10 HB81 CatB South Rd, Regency Park 93 G10
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
Which unit is HB?
Hamley Bridge
14:00:20 19-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 19/12/10 13:59,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,7 PIONEER AV,PORT ELLIOT MAP 311 E 3 TG138,CALL FROM NEIGHBOUR,PTEL00 MDDL00 GAW359 - MFS Gawler 359
Quote from: Hazmat206 on December 19, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
14:00:20 19-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 19/12/10 13:59,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,7 PIONEER AV,PORT ELLIOT MAP 311 E 3 TG138,CALL FROM NEIGHBOUR,PTEL00 MDDL00 GAW359 - MFS Gawler 359
i hear gawler were first arrival, K77
20-12-10 10:03:18 F101 NetCall Test Page - SAAS Unit Adelaide
Looks like fulham call sign but why SAAS Unit Adelaide?
Eastwood maybe?
Generic perhaps? These are all spare cars that get used anywhere and everywhere
.....mostly staffed by managers and overtime...another knee-jerk reaction to get response times down after realizing that in the last 12 months SAAS has gone from being the best performing service in the country to near on the worst!!
Quote from: boredmatrix on December 20, 2010, 09:56:53 PM
Generic perhaps? These are all spare cars that get used anywhere and everywhere
.....mostly staffed by managers and overtime...another knee-jerk reaction to get response times down after realizing that in the last 12 months SAAS has gone from being the best performing service in the country to near on the worst!!
Goes to show that Kevin is not so good at fudging figures as he thought.
Even DR9 got a run today :-P
Quote from: SA Firey on December 20, 2010, 10:43:52 PM
Goes to show that Kevin is not so good at fudging figures as he thought.
[in the style of Facebook]. LIKE
:-D
Haha nice call.
But I think it's good to make sure your managers still get some clinical time so that they keep in touch with reality and know what their crews go through as well as keeping their skills up :).
MFS: *CFSRES INC009 21/12/10 04:14,RESPOND SHED FIRE,8 VENTURA AV,TAPEROO MAP 79 M 6 TG182,SHED FIRE NEXT DOOR TO THIS HOUSE,LGS281 PAD251
MFS: *CFSRES INC011 21/12/10 04:30,RESPOND SHED FIRE,8 VENTURA AV,TAPEROO MAP 79 M 6 TG182,2ND ALARM K99 ON ARRIVAL,WDV243 WDV249 ADL206 CAR041 FLETCH
MFS: NOTIFICATION ONLY DAILY INC. NO.9 SHED FIRE AT VENTURA AVE TAPEROO 281 AND 251 ATTENDING D/O NOTIFIED K99 AUTOMATIC 2ND ALARM 243 AND249 CAR 41 206 AND SAFTEY OFFICER FLETCHER NOW ATTENDING 5MTS X 3MTS 4 X B/A AND 2 H/P LINES BEING USED
Can one of you comms boffins please tell me that the 2A assignment was cancelled? Or are the MFS taking a leaf out of the CFS book of stupidly over resourcing minor incidents?
Just following the SOP's
SOP 4 mate.
K99 or persons reported for a c-risk is automatic second alarm.
how can u say over supplying appliances to a minor incident, were u there? how do you know the shed wasnt full of gas bottles of jerry cans full of fuel, how do u know the sehd wasnt attached to a house? maybe MFS should listen to you and under supply these so called minor incidents then when your shed catches fire and a single pump turns up but cant handle it you loose the shed and your house, use a bit of common sense.
sometimes you just need appliances for water and all the reasons that F7 has
Nothing wrong with upgrading and also two reasons for it are A) The crews are in PBI, and at a going job that's hard work, and B)fresh resources to give the crews a break and also share the workload around the job makes sense to me.
We've said it before and we will say it again, better to have resources responding than to wait till it hits the fan, and a STOP CALL never hurt anyone.
thanks TFT and SA FIREY, great to see some ppl with common sense about themselves, cheers
At least they are not wearing goggles to house fires numbers...maybe that should be suggested to MFS.
1908895 17:51:11 22-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 22/12/10 17:50,RESPOND Aircraft Light,VICTOR HARBOR RD,MT COMPASS MAP 0 0 0 TG138,GLIDER SEEN CRASHING INTO MT MOON,UNSURE EXACT LOCATION, POSS VERT. CREWS,REQUIRED IF TRAPPED IN TREES,MCMP19 NOA020
Could be a long night...
Quote from: SOT man Mike on December 22, 2010, 04:53:59 PM
1908895 17:51:11 22-12-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 22/12/10 17:50,RESPOND Aircraft Light,VICTOR HARBOR RD,MT COMPASS MAP 0 0 0 TG138,GLIDER SEEN CRASHING INTO MT MOON,UNSURE EXACT LOCATION, POSS VERT. CREWS,REQUIRED IF TRAPPED IN TREES,MCMP19 NOA020
Could be a long night...
Nope, stop calls received. Heard of the GRN radio scanner that the glider was found in trees, but person had walked to get a saw to cut the glider down. Crews took a while to find him because he did not know emergency services crew were looking for him.
Quote from: pumprescue on December 21, 2010, 01:38:36 PM
Just following the SOP's
Quote from: Alex on December 21, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
SOP 4 mate.
K99 or persons reported for a c-risk is automatic second alarm.
Thanks! I don't know what these "SOP" things are... I was querying if the S/O on scene was able to/did stop the turning out of an Automatic second alarm. Can you actually fit that many firies and hoses around a shed that small?
Quote from: F7 on December 22, 2010, 05:26:37 AM
how can u say over supplying appliances to a minor incident, were u there? how do you know the shed wasn't full of gas bottles of jerry cans full of fuel, how do u know the sehd wasnt attached to a house? maybe MFS should listen to you and under supply these so called minor incidents then when your shed catches fire and a single pump turns up but cant handle it you loose the shed and your house, use a bit of common sense.
I know it was your first SAMFS job and all, just relax... If, as a rule of thumb, 2 x appliances and some hard work can tackle a house fire, how does that scale for a 5m x 3m shed? No issue if the upgrade is for a given risk, but I'm just interested in the Automatic 2A. If my shed caught fire and a single pump rocked up and couldn't stop it spreading into my house, I would be seriously concerned about the crews competency and would suggest they went back to Drill Squad. It's amazing to see what proactive, gutsy, firefighting can achieve.
Quote from: tft on December 22, 2010, 06:26:02 AM
sometimes you just need appliances for water and all the reasons that F7 has
Sure, but automatically for a Shed smaller than my bedroom?
Quote from: SA Firey on December 22, 2010, 02:44:10 PM
Nothing wrong with upgrading and also two reasons for it are A) The crews are in PBI, and at a going job that's hard work, and B)fresh resources to give the crews a break and also share the workload around the job makes sense to me.
We've said it before and we will say it again, better to have resources responding than to wait till it hits the fan, and a STOP CALL never hurt anyone.
Christ, if you need fresh crews and resources for a "Hard work" job that is 15m
2 maybe the boys should be heading into the gym a little more often ;)
Quote from: F7 on December 22, 2010, 04:41:07 PM
thanks TFT and SA FIREY, great to see some ppl with common sense about themselves, cheers
Asking questions of a procedure that appears to not take into account the actual incident is a lack of common sense? Sorry I don't agree with everything you and your agency does.
Quote from: pumprescue on December 22, 2010, 04:44:43 PM
At least they are not wearing goggles to house fires numbers...maybe that should be suggested to MFS.
According to Mr. Corcoran, SAMFS rural gloves are terrible - can't think what their goggles must be like, if they even have them.
6739264 it seems you are trolling to stir up other users. Its easy to sit on your scanner cranking it up and make judgements based on a 2 or 3 line MCT message. I would guess that most of the 2nd alarm appliances were turned back straight away, what is the harm in over resourcing a job anyway?? If another incident happened at same time they would all be availble to respond so no damage done.
Quote from: Ferret on December 23, 2010, 11:41:54 AM
6739264 it seems you are trolling to stir up other users. Its easy to sit on your scanner cranking it up and make judgements based on a 2 or 3 line MCT message. I would guess that most of the 2nd alarm appliances were turned back straight away, what is the harm in over resourcing a job anyway?? If another incident happened at same time they would all be availble to respond so no damage done.
Me, stirring people up, but asking common sense questions at the same time?
Have you read any of my previous posts?
Without getting people as wound up as it would seem has happened, I was merely asking about the validity of having an Automatic 2A response, without it taking into account of the actual structure involved. The risk classes are pretty wide ranging and as such it would seem that a one size fits all SOP for the different risk classes, rather than allowing the S/O on scene to advise Comms of wht he/she actually requires, is perhaps not the best way to do things?
God forbid I ask a question on a discussion forum?
Numbers a Troll?
HAHAHAHAHHAA.......
Ferret - obviously you are a very green public servant who still worships those above him.
Give it time Proby.....you'll get as old and wise (or is that cynical) as Numbers one day!
Numbers......trolling.....never!
Three cheers for consistency!
14:46:40 MFS: *CFSRES INC054 24/12/10 14:45,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,27 CAREY ST,ELIZABETH PARK MAP 52 D 10 TG182,KITCHEN FIRE, PERSON COLLAPSED INSIDE,ELZ331 ELZ339
Or is this not a C Class, persons reported as per SOP 4?
EDIT: My spelling is consistently inconsistent.
Yes should have been auto 2nd alarm------fail commcen
Thay did think about it, as I heard them say to Salisbury to standby for a 2nd alarm but it never happened.
17:38:35 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 28/12/10 17:37,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,MARION BASKETBALL STADIUM,NORFOLK RD,MARION MAP 153 D 2 TG182,SMOKE ISSUING FROM DOORS,ADL205 CAR041 STM401 STM409 CPK411
17:44:38 MFS: 411 PORTABLE 3 TRANSMITTING EMERGENCY CALL
Uh-oh!
MFS: *CFSRES INC058 30/12/10 14:52,RESPOND Smoke in Area,BASHAM PDE,PORT ELLIOTT MAP 151 J 3 TG138,DROWNING AT HORSHOE BAY ASSIST AMB,SAIR55 PTEL00 - CFS Mundoo Group Officers Response
Hmmm smoke.....drowning :-o
smoke on the water?? :-D
Quote from: SA Firey on December 30, 2010, 01:33:04 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC058 30/12/10 14:52,RESPOND Smoke in Area,BASHAM PDE,PORT ELLIOTT MAP 151 J 3 TG138,DROWNING AT HORSHOE BAY ASSIST AMB,SAIR55 PTEL00 - CFS Mundoo Group Officers Response
Hmmm smoke.....drowning :-o
Smoke in area? bit odd. Believe it was a drowning and they got the person out of the water in time. to quote what i heard on the scanner "he is alive and breathing".
Whoever sent it must have got the job code back to front.
Quote from: pumprescue on December 30, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Whoever sent it must have got the job code back to front.
SA vs AS?
1907922 20:25:28 30-12-10 PLS PH ANDY FROM 5AA RE CHAT ABOUT BOUNCERS & POWER TO ARREST - 0882230055
SAPOL Media
Interesting to see SAPOL online even if it's media
Quote from: Alex on December 30, 2010, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: CFS_Firey on December 30, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: pumprescue on December 30, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Whoever sent it must have got the job code back to front.
SA vs AS?
yep, looks like a case of fat fingers.
If SA was the job code used to produce 'smoke in area', what does AS job code produce ?
If SA was the job code used to produce 'smoke in area', what does AS job code produce ?
Assist SAAS
01-01-11 09:02:55 CFS: *CFSRES: BIRDDOG 500, AAS DUNN & AOB DAVIS RESPONDING INTEL FLIGHT @ 1000HRS, 3 REPORTED FIRES FLINDERS RANGES - SARC DOWLING > 1/01/2011 9:02:45 AM - CFS HQ Air Ops Response
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 01, 2011, 08:01:35 AM
01-01-11 09:02:55 CFS: *CFSRES: BIRDDOG 500, AAS DUNN & AOB DAVIS RESPONDING INTEL FLIGHT @ 1000HRS, 3 REPORTED FIRES FLINDERS RANGES - SARC DOWLING > 1/01/2011 9:02:45 AM - CFS HQ Air Ops Response
I think they ended up finding nothing.
1908999 19:27:35 02-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 02/01/11 19:25,RESPOND Assist SAAS,UPPER STURT RD,UPPER STURT MAP 156 G 5 TG136,PROCEED WITH CAUTION. CONTACT DGO FOR DE,TAILS. ON MELVILLE TRACK NEAR STURT VALL,EY RD TURNOFF,UPST00 STRL19
CFS Upper Sturt Response
1908999 21:14:01 02-01-11 MFS: RE INC 064, ASSIST SAAS, ANY MEMBERS WHO MAY HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH THE FEMALE VICTIM ARE TO HAVE THEIR UNIFORMS DECONTAMINATED AND TO SHOWER THOROUGHLY WITHOUT DELAY. FRO FURTHER DETAILS CONTACT REG 1 DUTY OFF
CFS Upper Sturt Response
Any one know what happened?
Quote from: SAMFS09 on January 02, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
Any one know what happened?
I believe she was found to have some infection so extra precautions needed to be taken.
I am not aware of what occurred at the job, but it sounds like it could be Scabies - highly infectious bug, easily transmitted through normal contact between an infected person & others
Pip
QuoteI am not aware of what occurred at the job, but it sounds like it could be Scabies - highly infectious bug, easily transmitted through normal contact between an infected person & others
Nothing that a good dose of Lyclear wont get rid of..!!!! :wink:
1923249 14:25:22 05-01-11 All members of the Tumby Bay Unit are required to attend a special meeting this thurs night 6th Jan 2011 for the possibility of deployment to Queensland, East Coast or the river Murray some time over the next 3 months. if you can not attend
SES Tumby Bay
Quote from: Pipster on January 05, 2011, 01:07:19 PM
I am not aware of what occurred at the job, but it sounds like it could be Scabies - highly infectious bug, easily transmitted through normal contact between an infected person & others
Pip
or one of a 110 other possible diseases or conditions. Without knowing the details of the job, its hardly useful guessing.I'm sure those that need to know, do
Quote from: SAMFS09 on January 02, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
1908999 19:27:35 02-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 02/01/11 19:25,RESPOND Assist SAAS,UPPER STURT RD,UPPER STURT MAP 156 G 5 TG136,PROCEED WITH CAUTION. CONTACT DGO FOR DE,TAILS. ON MELVILLE TRACK NEAR STURT VALL,EY RD TURNOFF,UPST00 STRL19
CFS Upper Sturt Response
1908999 21:14:01 02-01-11 MFS: RE INC 064, ASSIST SAAS, ANY MEMBERS WHO MAY HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH THE FEMALE VICTIM ARE TO HAVE THEIR UNIFORMS DECONTAMINATED AND TO SHOWER THOROUGHLY WITHOUT DELAY. FRO FURTHER DETAILS CONTACT REG 1 DUTY OFF
CFS Upper Sturt Response
Any one know what happened?
The official word is, she was a Port supporter!
LOL
MFS: *CFSRES INC082 07/01/11 18:32,RESPOND Assist Police,GLEN STUART RD,MAGILL MAP 120 G 1 TG182,PER EARLIER PHONE CALL,RV AT YOUTH TRAINING CENTRE,CODE GREEN,PDS221 - MFS Paradise PDS221
hmm Thats CFS area...
Quote from: Edster on January 07, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC082 07/01/11 18:32,RESPOND Assist Police,GLEN STUART RD,MAGILL MAP 120 G 1 TG182,PER EARLIER PHONE CALL,RV AT YOUTH TRAINING CENTRE,CODE GREEN,PDS221 - MFS Paradise PDS221
hmm Thats CFS area...
The job however is in MFS area.
Quote from: Alex on January 07, 2011, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: Edster on January 07, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC082 07/01/11 18:32,RESPOND Assist Police,GLEN STUART RD,MAGILL MAP 120 G 1 TG182,PER EARLIER PHONE CALL,RV AT YOUTH TRAINING CENTRE,CODE GREEN,PDS221 - MFS Paradise PDS221
hmm Thats CFS area...
The job however is in MFS area.
No problems thanks for clarifying :)
what happened? just curious about details as that would be in my cfs area...
Quote from: J Squared on January 08, 2011, 08:22:17 AM
what happened? just curious about details as that would be in my cfs area...
The RV point was in CSAFS area... but as already mentioned, the incident was in SAMFS area.
At the RV, I'd imagine 221 Staged, and liased with SAPol Fwd. Command? (Very Exciting)
Quote1925590 14:21:41 10-01-11 C7 ETC FOR A CAT B IN NORWOOD PLEASE? SPRINT IS GOING
Quote1925590 14:52:45 10-01-11 C7 I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE UNHARMED.
Prang on the way..??? Hope they are alright..
13-01-11 14:27:32 TRUR: THE SAND HAS ARRIVED AT TRURO STATION. IF ANY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO ASSIST WITH FILLING A FEW BAGS PLEASE ATTEND TRURO STATION REGARDS- BTC - CFS Truro Info
Keen Much??
Quick question for the Comms/SES dudes. Is there any difference between the incident type in the following:
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 18, RESPOND FLOODED YARD, 26 PATEY DRIVE RENMARK, DRIVEWAY FLOODING
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 16, RESPOND FLOODING, 31 MARGARET STR MURRAY BRIDGE, REQUESTING SANDBAGS
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 21, RESPOND SEVERE WEATHER, 9 MURRAY PRICE DR RENMARK, WATER COMING UP DRIVEWAY THREATENING HOUSE
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 22, RESPOND FLOOD THREAT, 54 SEVENTEETH STR RENMARK, REQUIRED SANDBAGS
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 35, RESPOND FLOODING-GENERAL, 1 EAST TCE BORDERTOWN, WATER APPROACHING HOUSE
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 41, RESPOND FLOODING SALVAGE, 43 MURTHO STR RENMARK, WATER COMING TOWARD HOUSE
Are these modifiable/operator editable incident types or are they preset akin to CFS/MFS?
What are the definitions for each if they are preset? To a simple Fireman like myself they all seem to point at the exact same type of incident...
[Edit: Added Jobs]
Quote from: 6739264 on January 13, 2011, 04:17:48 PM
Quick question for the Comms/SES dudes. Is there any difference between the incident type in the following:
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 18, RESPOND FLOODED YARD, 26 PATEY DRIVE RENMARK, DRIVEWAY FLOODING
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 16, RESPOND FLOODING, 31 MARGARET STR MURRAY BRIDGE, REQUESTING SANDBAGS
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 21, RESPOND SEVERE WEATHER, 9 MURRAY PRICE DR RENMARK, WATER COMING UP DRIVEWAY THREATENING HOUSE
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 22, RESPOND FLOOD THREAT, 54 SEVENTEETH STR RENMARK, REQUIRED SANDBAGS
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 35, RESPOND FLOODING-GENERAL, 1 EAST TCE BORDERTOWN, WATER APPROACHING HOUSE
SCC: *CFSRES: TASK NO 41, RESPOND FLOODING SALVAGE, 43 MURTHO STR RENMARK, WATER COMING TOWARD HOUSE
Are these modifiable/operator editable incident types or are they preset akin to CFS/MFS?
What are the definitions for each if they are preset? To a simple Fireman like myself they all seem to point at the exact same type of incident...
[Edit: Added Jobs]
All flooding jobs but calltakers have some flexability with the database. Extra words are behind the titles to assist in the statistics (eg house with water in it is different from water rising in yard to water through roof). The Comms Out staff also select what they type to give the best info. Some OK, some not.
1924962 01:09:04 16-01-11 B601 CatB Stephens Pl, Adelaide 4 B4
Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
Anyone know what call sign that is?
Bike team ...... Pedal Paramedics :-)
Quote
1924962 14:55:32 17-01-11 HB81 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1924962 14:56:35 17-01-11 PF81 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1924962 14:56:41 17-01-11 G81 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1916006 14:58:22 17-01-11 BV81 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1927167 14:58:30 17-01-11 PF71 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1909688 14:58:35 17-01-11 BV84 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1929743 14:59:19 17-01-11 LN1 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1924962 15:02:05 17-01-11 SO74 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1924962 15:06:58 17-01-11 HB400 CatB Hamley Bridge Rd, Hamley Bridge
1925565 15:08:04 17-01-11 SA40 HAVE HAD A MASS INCIDNET UP NORHT, CAN WE GET YOU HEADING TO PF FOR SOME COVERAGE UNTIL A SALISBURY CREW CRIB
Crikey...!!!! Lots of resources - Is a Bus involved..???
When I was driving past the airport on my way to work at 1455, two SAAS paramedic vehicles (one with RESCUE on the side) were heading towards Tapleys Hill Rd. Under lights/sirens. I assume they were heading towards the chopper.
QuoteWhen I was driving past the airport on my way to work at 1455, two SAAS paramedic vehicles (one with RESCUE on the side) were heading towards Tapleys Hill Rd. Under lights/sirens. I assume they were heading towards the chopper.
No pager message about CFS / SES / MFS to set up a LZ.. (not saying it couldnt have been arranged / communicated via other means..???)
bus crash.
not much in it.
Quotebus crash.
not much in it.
Thanks Bordey
QuoteFour hurt in bus rollover near Hamley Bridge
* From: AdelaideNow
* January 17, 2011 4:35PM
FOUR people have been taken to hospital after a disability services bus rolled north of Adelaide.
Emergency services were called to Hamley Bridge Rd, three kilometres from Hamley Bridge, just before 3pm, where the mini-bus left the road and rolled.
The four have been treated at the scene and are expected to be taken to the Lyell McEwin Hospital.
ALERTS Phone call was for a minibus rollover with five occupants near Main North rd and the pager message told us 3 kms from Main North Rd. Turned out to be 3 kms from HB Station. No traditional entrapments or serious injury however with handicap people involved it becomes a very different rescue. Got a phone call of thanks the following day to say all occupants are ok.
I have the pictures of it :wink:
Quote from: straps on January 17, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
QuoteWhen I was driving past the airport on my way to work at 1455, two SAAS paramedic vehicles (one with RESCUE on the side) were heading towards Tapleys Hill Rd. Under lights/sirens. I assume they were heading towards the chopper.
No pager message about CFS / SES / MFS to set up a LZ.. (not saying it couldnt have been arranged / communicated via other means..???)
Retrieval team was cancelled before takeoff.
just a query, 1x marked police 2x Star Group 4WD and 1x SAAS Rescue 4WD heaading down the freeway away from adelaide under lights and sirens???
21-01-11 20:53:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 21/01/11 20:52,RESPOND To,WOODSIDE RD,NAIRNE MAP 161 M 2 TG128,300M FROM ADELAIDE RD SIDE,NO LIGHTS NO SIRENS,CONTACT COMMS FOR FURTHER,NAIR00 - CFS Heysen Group Officers Response
Something to do with that?
22-01-11 13:15:39 Rapid Bay Members: RCR Training and last chance for FLASHOVER training to be held at Delamere station tomorrow ( Sunday 23rd) at 9.00am :FROM Duty Officer 1:15:02 PM
Rapid Bay doing compulsory CFBT evolutions??
As always, it's not hard to use correct terminology...
14:13:28 25-01-11 volunteers got nothing else to do - do they? - SES Tea Tree Gully Info
So don't volunteer then....pretty simple...we all get stop calls....
21:33:29 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 26/01/11 21:32,RESPOND RCR,MARYVALE RD,ATHELSTONE MAP 108 M 3 TG182,CAR V STOBIE AND BUS SHELTER BETWEEN SUN,SET AND CRESTWOOD,ATHL19 PDS221 ADL204 - MFS Adelaide 204
22:05:44 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 26/01/11 22:05,RESPOND RCR,CORK ST,SALISBURY DOWNS MAP 70 N 8 TG182,CAR V STOBIE POLE,SAL329 SAL321 - MFS
Salisbury 329
23:05:07 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 26/01/11 23:04,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR SOUTH TDCE & WEST TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 B 11 TG182,CAR V STOBIE POLE, POSSIBLE FIRE ALSO,ADL201 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide 203
23:11:55 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC078 26/01/11 23:11,RESPOND RCR,CNR ANZAC HWY & GREENHILL RD,WAYVILLE MAP 130 A 2 TG182,CAR V STOBIE,ADL204 ADL202 - MFS Adelaide 202
Busy time for stobie poles...
27-01-11 12:54:35 The next 3 day look like they are going to be we may xgve to man HQ 24hrs. Who is avaiable next 3 day & what days text des 0428822519 - CFS R6 Ops Brigade?
27-01-11 13:38:42 ATTENTION CREW: FFS AVAILABLITY #S FOR THIS WKEND FOR POSSIBLE DEPLOYMENT. PREFERABLY TEXT SO HIGGINS IF U R AVAILABLE, PRIOR TO 16:00 TODAY. - MFS Whyalla 529 Response
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 27, 2011, 11:44:24 AM
27-01-11 12:54:35 The next 3 day look like they are going to be we may xgve to man HQ 24hrs. Who is avaiable next 3 day & what days text des 0428822519 - CFS R6 Ops Brigade?
Maybe someone is threatening to burn down the spelling and grammar department again?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 27, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
21:33:29 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC067 26/01/11 21:32,RESPOND RCR,MARYVALE RD,ATHELSTONE MAP 108 M 3 TG182,CAR V STOBIE AND BUS SHELTER BETWEEN SUN,SET AND CRESTWOOD,ATHL19 PDS221 ADL204 - MFS Adelaide 204
22:05:44 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 26/01/11 22:05,RESPOND RCR,CORK ST,SALISBURY DOWNS MAP 70 N 8 TG182,CAR V STOBIE POLE,SAL329 SAL321 - MFS
Salisbury 329
23:05:07 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 26/01/11 23:04,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR SOUTH TDCE & WEST TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 B 11 TG182,CAR V STOBIE POLE, POSSIBLE FIRE ALSO,ADL201 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide 203
23:11:55 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC078 26/01/11 23:11,RESPOND RCR,CNR ANZAC HWY & GREENHILL RD,WAYVILLE MAP 130 A 2 TG182,CAR V STOBIE,ADL204 ADL202 - MFS Adelaide 202
Busy time for stobie poles...
Damn stobie poles! They cause so much trouble when they jump into the middle of the road...
23:05:07 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 26/01/11 23:04,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,CNR SOUTH TDCE & WEST TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 B 11 TG182,CAR V STOBIE POLE, POSSIBLE FIRE ALSO,ADL201 ADL203 - MFS Adelaide 203
23:11:55 26-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC078 26/01/11 23:11,RESPOND RCR,CNR ANZAC HWY & GREENHILL RD,WAYVILLE MAP 130 A 2 TG182,CAR V STOBIE,ADL204 ADL202 - MFS Adelaide 202
These two jobs were one in the same :wink:
29-01-11 14:01:36 MFS: PER ON CALL REGIONAL COUNTRY DUTY OFFICER (AND DO FOODY) RENMARK AND BERRI STATIONS ARE TO BE MANNED TILL FURTHER NOTICE - MFS Renmark Response
29-01-11 14:01:34 MFS: PER ON CALL REGIONAL COUNTRY DUTY OFFICER (AND DO FOODY) RENMARK AND BERRI STATIONS ARE TO BE MANNED TILL FURTHER NOTICE - MFS Berri Response
Any one know why?
Issues with some GRN towers in riverland areas. Concentrators at those stations auto-page for jobs. So if the paging is unreliable the concentrators need to be monitored to avoid missing alarms.
Quote from: Alex on January 29, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
Issues with some GRN towers in riverland areas. Concentrators at those stations auto-page for jobs. So if the paging is unreliable the concentrators need to be monitored to avoid missing alarms.
Cheers Alex
19:34:21 29-01-11 Due to severe fire danger and extreme heat warning North Region LoP is at Yellow. Check email for Ops Plan. NRDO - SES North Region
Just having a look at the paging site and came across this message. Nothing earth shattering about it other than it was repeated 60 times. Surely they can send out a general info message to everyone who needs to know instead of sending the same message individually?
Quote from: safireservice on January 29, 2011, 07:04:59 PM
19:34:21 29-01-11 Due to severe fire danger and extreme heat warning North Region LoP is at Yellow. Check email for Ops Plan. NRDO - SES North Region
Just having a look at the paging site and came across this message. Nothing earth shattering about it other than it was repeated 60 times. Surely they can send out a general info message to everyone who needs to know instead of sending the same message individually?
I'm only making an assumption here, but perhaps that pager group is set up like brigades. Send one message to the response number of a CFS brigade and it automatically copies to the group officers paging group.
The SES in this case might have it set up like that rather than the CFS regional numbers etc. which just send it to everyone in that region in the one paging group.
31-01-11 08:39:20 CFSR5: PRE-IDENTIFIED IMT REQUIRED FOR TODAY (31/01/2011) DUE TO REVISED INCREASE IN PREDICTED FDI'S. IC, OPS, PLAN AND LOGS OFFICER ALL REQUIRED. CONTACT OPERATIONS LINE IF AVAIL. RO HASTIE 31/01/2011 8:38:47 AM - CFS R5 Weather Maildrop
I was bit puzzled when neither USE or LSE wason fire ban today would have thought yesterday might have been a guide
I was abit puzzled about that too baggyass if you at look yesterdays readings at 14:59 pm Mount Gambier reached 40 degrees with a dew point of -2.0 and the FDI of 75.8 which is extreme :-o considering we were only meant to get to 37
00:19:49 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC140 31/01/11 00:19,RESPOND SHED FIRE,HANSON RD,WINGFIELD MAP 92 Q 4 TG182,FAR NORTHERN END OVER EXPRESSWAY,POOL22 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
Quote from: Hazmat206 on January 31, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
00:19:49 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC140 31/01/11 00:19,RESPOND SHED FIRE,HANSON RD,WINGFIELD MAP 92 Q 4 TG182,FAR NORTHERN END OVER EXPRESSWAY,POOL22 - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
An unusual one. Was used to transport additional drinking water to the crews. According to the BOM site, temp was still 34-35deg at the time of call... warm enough for ya.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 31, 2011, 07:20:14 AM
31-01-11 08:39:20 CFSR5: PRE-IDENTIFIED IMT REQUIRED FOR TODAY (31/01/2011) DUE TO REVISED INCREASE IN PREDICTED FDI'S. IC, OPS, PLAN AND LOGS OFFICER ALL REQUIRED. CONTACT OPERATIONS LINE IF AVAIL. RO HASTIE 31/01/2011 8:38:47 AM - CFS R5 Weather Maildrop
I was bit puzzled when neither USE or LSE wason fire ban today would have thought yesterday might have been a guide
Thought this would be sensible given the CFS regions are resource tracking, logistics, etc. I would suggest that an individual fire may not be extreme to control, but multiple incidents could stretch resources.
I learn't 2 weeks ago the value of a well planned & deployed ICC. If IMT are behind because they have not been activated quickly or pre-deployed, then it can cause all sorts of issues at the incident.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 31, 2011, 07:20:14 AM
31-01-11 08:39:20 CFSR5: PRE-IDENTIFIED IMT REQUIRED FOR TODAY (31/01/2011) DUE TO REVISED INCREASE IN PREDICTED FDI'S. IC, OPS, PLAN AND LOGS OFFICER ALL REQUIRED. CONTACT OPERATIONS LINE IF AVAIL. RO HASTIE 31/01/2011 8:38:47 AM - CFS R5 Weather Maildrop
I was bit puzzled when neither USE or LSE wason fire ban today would have thought yesterday might have been a guide
yet again shows the stupidity of having fire ban determination based on a single non precise dreamed up figure
04:39:48 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 31/01/11 04:39,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,48 WOODLANDS TCE,EDWARDSTOWN MAP 141 L 5 TG182,2ND ALARM,ADL202 CAR041 ADL206 STAPLE CPK411 - MFS Adelaide 202
05:23:37 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 31/01/11 05:23,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 HURSTFIELD TCE,FINDON MAP 116 N 1 TG182,2 ND ALARM,ADL206 CAR041 APK361 WDV241 STAPLE - MFS Adelaide 206
14:28:34 31-01-11 MFS: SNR OFF GRP: INC 069 SECOND ALARM K99 HOUSEFIRE REPTON RD SOMERTON PARK. - MFS Car 31 (Northern DO)
00:59:53 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 31/01/11 00:59,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,46 MCEWIN AV,REDWOOD PARK MAP 84 M 8 TG182,BA/HAZMAT POD,CODE GREEN,AD2017 - MFS Adelaide 2017 (BA Pod)
and the wingfield 2nd alarm
2nd alarms much?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 01, 2011, 05:23:58 AM
04:39:48 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 31/01/11 04:39,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,48 WOODLANDS TCE,EDWARDSTOWN MAP 141 L 5 TG182,2ND ALARM,ADL202 CAR041 ADL206 STAPLE CPK411 - MFS Adelaide 202
05:23:37 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 31/01/11 05:23,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 HURSTFIELD TCE,FINDON MAP 116 N 1 TG182,2 ND ALARM,ADL206 CAR041 APK361 WDV241 STAPLE - MFS Adelaide 206
14:28:34 31-01-11 MFS: SNR OFF GRP: INC 069 SECOND ALARM K99 HOUSEFIRE REPTON RD SOMERTON PARK. - MFS Car 31 (Northern DO)
00:59:53 31-01-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 31/01/11 00:59,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,46 MCEWIN AV,REDWOOD PARK MAP 84 M 8 TG182,BA/HAZMAT POD,CODE GREEN,AD2017 - MFS Adelaide 2017 (BA Pod)
and the wingfield 2nd alarm
2nd alarms much?
I didn't think SAMFS did the whole 1st Alarm thing...
(One in, ALL IN!)
First arrival K99 = automatic 2nd alarm response...?
Quote from: JJD on February 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
First arrival K99 = automatic 2nd alarm response...?
Only depending on the risk category.
Quote from: JJD on February 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
First arrival K99 = automatic 2nd alarm response...?
Helps keep the stats up and justifies extra funding.
...meanwhile..over in SAASville....crews are getting hammered on a daily basis and response times heading down that proverbial creek......and we are expected to save how many millions $ over the next couple of years?
Quote from: boredmatrix on February 01, 2011, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: JJD on February 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
First arrival K99 = automatic 2nd alarm response...?
Helps keep the stats up and justifies extra funding.
...meanwhile..over in SAASville....crews are getting hammered on a daily basis and response times heading down that proverbial creek......and we are expected to save how many millions $ over the next couple of years?
But Boredy SPRINT will save you, not what i'm hearing daily!!!
05-02-11 19:29:39 EC12 FROM UC2 WELFARE CHECK - SAAS Unit H51
UC2?
Quote from: disOrderly on February 05, 2011, 06:54:17 PM
05-02-11 19:29:39 EC12 FROM UC2 WELFARE CHECK - SAAS Unit H51
UC2?
Well we have tried SPRINT cars, push bikes and motorcycles, but the call volume keeps going up ..... These are the Uni cycle units
maybe try Unscheduled Care Desk UC or ECP desk
06-02-11 12:09:11 LT1 CatB St Vincent St, Port Adelaide 5 E8 - Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
LT1???
ESS TL
08-02-11 10:42:46 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: DIAL IN OPERATIONAL TELECONFERENCE 12:30 TODAY, ALL REGIONAL COORDINATORS TO PARTICIPATE REGARDING PLANNING FOR POTENTIAL INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT - ACO SANDFORD > 8/02/2011 10:42:37 AM - CFS R1 HQ Info
Alright alright ill start it where are we going? When are we going and why werent we sent yesterday? :wink:
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
08-02-11 10:42:46 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: DIAL IN OPERATIONAL TELECONFERENCE 12:30 TODAY, ALL REGIONAL COORDINATORS TO PARTICIPATE REGARDING PLANNING FOR POTENTIAL INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT - ACO SANDFORD > 8/02/2011 10:42:37 AM - CFS R1 HQ Info
Alright alright ill start it where are we going? When are we going and why werent we sent yesterday? :wink:
A lot of SES volunteers & staff have been asked to deploy.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
Alright alright ill start it where are we going? When are we going and why werent we sent yesterday? :wink:
I think it wll be a matter of eni mini miny mo which disaster shall we go.
COQ to SES stations :D
The folks out west will be looking for some rest
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
08-02-11 10:42:46 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: DIAL IN OPERATIONAL TELECONFERENCE 12:30 TODAY, ALL REGIONAL COORDINATORS TO PARTICIPATE REGARDING PLANNING FOR POTENTIAL INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT - ACO SANDFORD > 8/02/2011 10:42:37 AM - CFS R1 HQ Info
Alright alright ill start it where are we going? When are we going and why werent we sent yesterday? :wink:
Because KI only started today :lol: :-P
Who's up for a possible strike team to KI, 220 hectares so far. :-D
Quote from: SA Firey on February 08, 2011, 06:17:36 PM
Who's up for a possible strike team to KI, 220 hectares so far. :-D
Instead of a bit of pre-planning there will probably be a mad scramble to get crews over there if it gets away.
I will put my money on WA from what a friend in FESA was saying they all need a reast as they have been busy for 2 months.....But who knows QLD or Victoria,Wait and see.....
someone is in trouble :?
09-02-11 20:53:48 FIRST AND LAST WARNING NO MORE UNNECCESSARY PAGING UNLESS FOR ADMIN OR OPERATIONAL MATTERS. IF IT CONTINUES I'LL TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. SIGNED VIRGINIA CAPT. - CFS Virginia Info
Bit harsh, all I could see was someone trying to find their pager, big whoop !
Think Virginia Captain should worry about getting his trucks on the road than 1 pager message !
09-02-11 23:35:50 NOTIFICATION - AT A SECOND ALARM HOUSE FIRE INVOLVING A SHED AND MOTOR VEHICLE A FIREFIGHTER HAS BURNT HIS HANDS AND IS BEING TRANSPORTED TO HOSPITAL..... - MFS 55
Hopefully they aren't burnt too bad :/
Quote from: disOrderly on February 10, 2011, 11:36:42 PM
09-02-11 23:35:50 NOTIFICATION - AT A SECOND ALARM HOUSE FIRE INVOLVING A SHED AND MOTOR VEHICLE A FIREFIGHTER HAS BURNT HIS HANDS AND IS BEING TRANSPORTED TO HOSPITAL..... - MFS 55
Hopefully they aren't burnt too bad :/
SAMFS might have to change to another type of structural gloves, again.
MFS are already doing that......
14:58:55 11-02-11 Due to flooding of station through engine bay doors pls be carefull responding. Cupboards etc on timber away from walls drying out - Capt - CFS Tanunda Info
16-02-11 11:38:42 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 16/02/11 11:37,RESPOND RCR,MINCHINBURY TCE,MARION MAP 141 D 12 TG182,TRAIN V PEDESTRIAN,UNKNOWN IF TRAPPED,MARION RWY STATION,ADL204 CPK411 CAR041 AD2027
It's 2011 and Adelaide Fire is still unable to turnout an appropriate incident type. Is the CRD system THAT hard to manage? Will things really get better with SACAD? I pity our poor comms operators who have to work with a scheiße system with illogical limits on incident types.
But they could just have a K-code..... :wink:
10:03:02 17-02-11 MFS: SUGGEST YOU HAVE A LOOK AT SOP 26 2.4 WHEN YOU RETURN - MFS Gawler 359
QuoteHEADS UP POTENTIAL FOR WET CONDITIONS FRIDAY 4AM TO 10 AM NOT TO BAD FROM 10AM COULD BE BAD SMS AVALIABILITY TO *****
Confused much :? :|
Quote from: mengcfs on February 17, 2011, 03:28:37 PM
QuoteHEADS UP POTENTIAL FOR WET CONDITIONS FRIDAY 4AM TO 10 AM NOT TO BAD FROM 10AM COULD BE BAD SMS AVALIABILITY TO *****
Confused much :? :|
Me too. However, i think he meant (i was looking at this for a good couple of minutes!) that said "wet conditions" won't be too bad from 4am to 10am but from 10am onwards, conditions potentially could deteriorate... :?
18-02-11 16:22:04 CFSRES: 2 CREW REQ TO TAKE CAR 2 AND SANDBAGS TO YORKE PENN, PHONE CAPTAIN ASAP 0415990598 18/2/2011 16:21:48 - CFS R2 Ops Brigade Response
surely be sandbags closer to YP than coming from R2
May have run out...
and surely you would send a cpl of pallets of them....not a cpl of dozen that u'd fit in the back of a Region Car
Quote from: misterteddy on February 18, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
and surely you would send a cpl of pallets of them....not a cpl of dozen that u'd fit in the back of a Region Car
Region car could tow a trailer though ?
Quote from: bajdas on February 18, 2011, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: misterteddy on February 18, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
and surely you would send a cpl of pallets of them....not a cpl of dozen that u'd fit in the back of a Region Car
Region car could tow a trailer though ?
What gets me is why they need 2 command vehicles?
YP is part of R2. Landcruisers have a considerable towing capability. Empty sandbags in compressed bundles take up little space (but are heavy). Some actions are preemptive after a significant usage is noted.
the point i was trying to make was there are people on here that jump down SES throat when they dont call in some CFS help but in this instance there would be sandbags much closer in a SES station than coming from R2 HQ. Anyway the sun cam eup today and was all cool! :-)
we did get a few packs from CYP SES but they had all but ran out aswell.
Sandbags where in short supply after the Victorian and the QLD floods now I know SES did run low on these so may be they had not had time to reorder them from the supplier's.
MFS: *CFSRES INC118 19/02/11 22:07,RESPOND Assist SAAS,GOLDEN (THE) WAY,GOLDEN GROVE MAP 72 H 16 TG182,ELDERLY PERSON WITH FINGER STUCK IN BOWL,ING BALL AT VILLAGE BOWL,SAL329 :lol:
Think I've heard it all now
09:16:11 24-02-11 ANYBODY AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH MARIJUANA PULL AND BURN PLEASE RING BRIGADE CAPTAIN ON <phone#> - CFS Wunkar Info
Now would you stand down wind or what OH&SW issues would result ?
SOP 4.9 "Cannabis Burns"
Mentions "upwind/uphill" and "...don't stand in the smoke..." quite frequently!
01-03-11 11:20:54 MFS: *CFSRES INC038 01/03/11 11:20,RESPOND Tree Down,CNR OF CORKSCREW AND GORGE RD,CASTAMBUL MAP 98 C 15 TG126,LRG TREE DOWN BLOCKING ROAD PAULINE,0447892239 P1,OLO020 MONT00
thats a bit of hike for lobethal isnt it? i can think of at least 4 other brigades with chainsaws alot closer...
Quote from: J Squared on March 01, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
thats a bit of hike for lobethal isnt it? i can think of at least 4 other brigades with chainsaws alot closer...
I think Lobethal would be the SES part of the response...
hmm well now im not sure, the grn site i came accross it on states it was the CFS Lobethal Response of the CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response, does the ses tie in with the cfs there? surely campbelltown would be closer again though...
Quote from: J Squared on March 01, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
hmm well now im not sure, the grn site i came accross it on states it was the CFS Lobethal Response of the CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response, does the ses tie in with the cfs there? surely campbelltown would be closer again though...
OLO020 is Lobethal/Onkaparinga SES
LOBE19 is Lobethal CFS
Both go to the same paging ID, because they are the same people. Onkaparinga SES was combined into local CFS years ago.
There is a similar setup with Woodside, Balhannah and Lenswood. Causes plenty of confusion.
i'd say! thanks for the clarification
10:09:54 04-03-11 MFS: 329 PLS RETURN TO STN 32,359 PLS RETURN TO STN 33 - MFS Salisbury 329
09:36:29 04-03-11 MFS: 329 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36,359 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32,361 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 28 - MFS Salisbury 329
Who's looking after Gawler?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on March 04, 2011, 11:09:50 AM
10:09:54 04-03-11 MFS: 329 PLS RETURN TO STN 32,359 PLS RETURN TO STN 33 - MFS Salisbury 329
09:36:29 04-03-11 MFS: 329 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 36,359 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 32,361 CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 28 - MFS Salisbury 329
Who's looking after Gawler?
Probly Elizabeth, not every COQ shows up on paging. There are a multitude of possible reasons for 359 being in 32; ie driving through on there way home from engineering.
These calls were at 9:30 in the morning & they responded to GMH at 2:00 so im guessing they were at 33 all day. i couldn't see eliz at gawler if gawler were at 33..
Just wondering why....
I notice when a fixed/private alarm goes off in rosedale, Shea oak log & Roseworthy get paged as primary response but if it's a domestic fire or accident, concordia & williamstown get paged as primary. Who's area is it actually?
And before anyone asks, it has happened more than once.
Interesting...Maybe?
19-03-11 11:13:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC040 19/03/11 11:12,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,MONASH MAP 000 0 0 TG203,NEAR BIG ORANGE MOBILE:0415806801,MNSH00 20 - MFS Car 30
disregrard the Car 30 bit but I believe that is the Riverland DO respnding BEFORE Berri 609? I'm not with the MFS so is that normal?
Ooops... additional address details & stop call to a different Unit....close in name though
23-03-11 20:24:05 MFS: *CFSRES INC102 23/03/11 20:22,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KINGSCOTE ,KINGSCOTE MAP 0 0 0 TG130,SIGNATE RD NEAR YATCHT CLUB, 2 VEHICLES,INVOLVED, UNSURE OF INJURIES AND ENTRAPM,ENTS, SAPOL ON SCENE,KIS029 KNGC00 - SES Kingscote Response
23-03-11 20:27:11 MFS: LOCATION IS CYGNET RD FOR INC 102 - SES Kingston Response
23-03-11 20:32:26 MFS: FROM MFSSTOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 102 - SES Kingston Response
Gee Kingston could have taken their boat for a nice wet drive.....
which albeit a long wet drive,.....is better than a short dry drive
1909338 12:07:42 27-03-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 27/03/11 12:06,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PADTHAWAY ,PADTHAWAY MAP 0 0 0 TG230,ON RIDDOCH HWY OUTSIDE UNITING CHURCH,PDTH19 BWN029
MMMMMM did someone sedn the wrong RCR back up brigade??Naracoorte CFS is alot closer than SES...
Per the RCRD.
Padthaway; 1st Rescue = Padthaway CFS, 2nd Rescue = Bordertown SES
Quote from: Bill on March 27, 2011, 10:57:52 AM
Naracoorte CFS is alot closer than SES...
Bordertown is 42km away, Naracoorte 45km.
When was that changed alex???
Quote from: Bill on March 27, 2011, 03:43:13 PM
When was that changed alex???
Not sure mate, im just going by the info in front we have hear. If there is an issue speak to the region and they should be able to get it fixed. Bordertown SES do seem closer though to me?
Ok thanks mate.
10:21:05 29-03-11 Respond to Event No: F11032900002 Unit Dispatched: ADL201
SACAD Testing, in the works :D
Trying to understand the Event No/Inc No???? F (Fire), 11 = Year, 03 = Month, 29 = Day, 00002 = Daily Incident Number.
Holy crap.....its actually coming....noooooooo waaaaayyyyy!!!!!
Quote from: Zippy on March 29, 2011, 08:54:56 AM
Trying to understand the Event No/Inc No???? F (Fire), 11 = Year, 03 = Month, 29 = Day, 00002 = Daily Incident Number.
Wouldnt be too fussed Zippy, from what ive been told paging format will be similar to the current setup.
Those pager messages have been going out for a couple of months now, SAAS have also been doing their own testing with a similar style of message.
You may also see a fire one that is designed to open station doors.
It is good to see things happening. The word is it may be ready to go by next fire season, but whether we change over then or not is another thing.
You may also see a fire one that is designed to open station doors.
Our station doors open automatically now is this going to be something different?
02-04-11 21:36:01 MFS: *CFSRES INC075 02/04/11 21:35,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,QUORN CFS,QUORN MAP 0 0 0 TG068,MOTORBIKE 10KMS FROM QUORN TOWAQRDS STIR,LING NTH,STRL19 QURN00 - CFS Stirling Response
02-04-11 21:38:05 MFS: INC 75 DIS REGARD - CFS Stirling Response
02-04-11 19:29:54 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 02/04/11 19:29,RESPOND Rescue Search,IRON KNOB CFS,IRON KNOB MAP 0 0 0 TG068,REQ. FROM SAPOL TO ASSIST IN SEARCH ALL,CFS MEMBERS TO ATTEND STN,SDO050 IRBK00 PAU020 - CFS Ironbank Response
02-04-11 19:31:02 MFS: RE DIN 064. STOP CALL - CFS Ironbank Response
.......................Long day for someone?
11:37:00 07-04-11 MFS:e: WDV243 OAK303 -oo- - MFS Elizabeth 331
11:36:59 07-04-11 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC041 07/04/11 11:35,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,15 DOLPHIN ST,ELIZABETH EAST MAP 62 B 2 TG182,ELIZABETH EDUC DEPT PRIMARY SCHOOL, SMOK,E COMING FROM BOYS TOILETS, EVACUATION I,N PROGRESS,ADL205 CAR031 ELZ331 WDV243 OAK303 -oo- - MFS Elizabeth 331
3 aerials responding to first response :|
skyjets are not counted as aerials in responses, they are only counted as pumps in responses. closest pumps go.
1908073 17:58:28 11-04-11 STRATH AND YANK OFFLINE TOMORROW FOR RCR SOUTH COAST UNIT IS COVERING ALL MEMBERS PLS ATTEND IF RCR OCCURS
Hmm so i'm guessing that there arent any closer RCR resources to cover Strath tomorrow, i can think of at least 4, make that 5 if you dont count one thats not in the directory. And South Coast can barely crew now...
Way to go SES you really know how to instill confidence in you :|
Typical. Inside the SES, the CFS doesnt exist.
SACAD will fix these problems........ONE DAY!
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on April 11, 2011, 05:40:25 PM
1908073 17:58:28 11-04-11 STRATH AND YANK OFFLINE TOMORROW FOR RCR SOUTH COAST UNIT IS COVERING ALL MEMBERS PLS ATTEND IF RCR OCCURS
Hmm so i'm guessing that there arent any closer RCR resources to cover Strath tomorrow, i can think of at least 4, make that 5 if you dont count one thats not in the directory. And South Coast can barely crew now...
Way to go SES you really know how to instill confidence in you :|
Doesnt make an ounce of differance mate so dont worry. RCRD is what dictates RCR response. So DONT WORRY!!!
BTW, plenty of CFS brigades try to do the same for there fire area.
lol yeah was more laughing at the only ses can cover ses area
26-04-11 00:26:09 SA181 SAPOL ARE YET TO BE DISPATCHED, CAN YOU CONFIRM YOU ARE OK? - SAAS Unit Salisbury
Wonder what happened? Hopefully the crew weren't attacked?
A lesson in how to piss off your neighbouring brigades...
MFS: *CFSRES INC092 28/04/11 20:50,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KAPUNDA CFS,KAPUNDA DISTRICT MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OLD ANLABY RD.JUST NORTH OF KAPUNDA,SAIR55 KAPD00
half an hour later...
MFS: *CFSRES INC092 28/04/11 21:18,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KAPUNDA CFS,KAPUNDA DISTRICT MAP 0 0 0 TG100,OLD ANLABY RD. ASSIST KAPUNDA CFS CREWS,ON SCENE,GR
NK00 FREE00
but wait for it!!!!
MFS: FROM KAPUNDA CFS RE INC 092. REQUIRED FOR STANDBY ONLY
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 29/04/11 08:09,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MYPONGA CFS,MYPONGA MAP 0 0 0 TG144,5 KMS SOUTH OF MYPONGA MAIN STH RD TRUCK, ROLL OVER REQUIRED FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL,HAYF00 - CFS Hay Flat Response
Is Sapol havin the day off today :-P
02-05-11 18:45:47 Capts there has been a "LARGE" number of station breakins across the region,be aware & ensure station security is maintained. GO ########## - CFS East Torrens Group Info
21:19:40 STN 71 EMERGENCY PAGE
21:21:17 MFS: *CFSRES INC070 02/05/11 21:20,RESPOND RCR,CNR INMAN VALLEY RD & SWAINS CROSSING RD,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 309 E 10 TG195,1 PERSON TRAPPED. NO FURTHER DETAILS, CA,LL FROM SAPOL,VHB719
21:29:17 RCR SWAIN CROSSING AND EDEN VALLEY ROAD VICTOR HARBOR 1 TRAPPED - SES South Coast Response
Wow, no self responding there! They even managed to get the location wrong.
Maybe and MFS member came across it and thought to ring one of the members who live almost on top of the station? and as for ses, the mfs have a thing going with them that they call them to rcr's, probably find the SO rang the ses duty officer.... but yeah why the request cant go through adelaide fire i dont know.
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on May 03, 2011, 06:49:15 PM
Maybe and MFS member came across it and thought to ring one of the members who live almost on top of the station? and as for ses, the mfs have a thing going with them that they call them to rcr's, probably find the SO rang the ses duty officer.... but yeah why the request cant go through adelaide fire i dont know.
Nothing wrong with the initial emerg page. Same as punching the manual turnout button at any station.
Just a curiosity about the SES. I'm not aware of the areas that either SAMFS or SASES cover down that way, just noted the SES turnout was not via AF nor was the location correct. Can't think why a local response arrangement isn't put to AF to have it occur automatically.
Its been raised before.
12:23:12 09-05-11 Meeting Tonight 20.00 hours At our NEW Station All welcome ! - CFS Wilmington Info
1918562 01:33:22 21-05-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 21/05/11 01:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 SYMONDS ST,PORT PIRIE MAP 0 0 0 TG194,SECOND ALARM HOUSE FIRE,NAPP00 KAD661
MFS Kadina Response
1919074 01:47:37 21-05-11 NOTIFICATION ONLY.. NAPPERBY CFS, KADINA AND ELIZABETH 331 MOBILE TO 2ND ALARM PER ACTING D/O COLLIER
MFS Car 40
:?
Quote from: brenjoe on May 21, 2011, 07:18:22 AM
1918562 01:33:22 21-05-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 21/05/11 01:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 SYMONDS ST,PORT PIRIE MAP 0 0 0 TG194,SECOND ALARM HOUSE FIRE,NAPP00 KAD661
MFS Kadina Response
1919074 01:47:37 21-05-11 NOTIFICATION ONLY.. NAPPERBY CFS, KADINA AND ELIZABETH 331 MOBILE TO 2ND ALARM PER ACTING D/O COLLIER
MFS Car 40
:?
01:41:03 21-05-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 21/05/11 01:40,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 SYMONDS ST,PORT PIRIE MAP 0 0 0 TG194,SECOND ALARM RESPONSE,ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
331 Must have the quickest appliance :-P
How filtered Ridiculous!!! Once again Closest most appropriate appliances should be responded.....
all of pirie trucks was at the fire Napperby CFS ended up going COQ to pirie mfs station, untill an appliance was free from the fire and once Kadina got into pirie.
Closest most appropriate?
Well can you that can gaurantee a fully trained ba crew?
Even if their an hour away, is thats not better than defaults and untrained crews?
Quote from: unfknblvable on May 21, 2011, 11:21:07 AM
Closest most appropriate?
Well can you that can gaurantee a fully trained ba crew?
Even if their an hour away, is thats not better than defaults and untrained crews?
Sounds like you're in the MFS how did you possibly get in with grammar and spelling you have shown above?
he he he!
First of all defaulting stations is something that is not unique to the CFS you only need to mention a retained MFS brigade in the Mid North that no longer exists or an MFS station had had trouble getting crews in the Barossa that was being backed up by a full time appliance from Gawler when other CFS stations with appropriate crew are closer.
It does not make sense for appliances to traverse great distances past other resources from another fire services and that goes for both commands of both fire services.
How about we stop the game playing and just get on providing the best fire and rescue service model we can provide to the community which will always be a mix of paid, retained and volunteer in this state due to budgetary constrains and practicality of service gained versus dollar spent!
Stop banging on your gong and get on with the job!
Only thing a retained station provides is better equipment and better training, if CFS upped their game with equipment and training then there would be no advantage at all.
i wouldnt say that, i would say in some asspects the training is equal to mfs, they dont have the pumping facilities as the mfs appliances do but still have equal training.
30-05-11 18:09:54 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 46, APPLIANCE BREAKDOWN, POSSIBEE EXTENDED STAY - MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Quote from: fire8029 on May 30, 2011, 11:17:18 AM
i wouldnt say that, i would say in some asspects the training is equal to mfs, they dont have the pumping facilities as the mfs appliances do but still have equal training.
I should have said everyone is trained. You don't run the risk of no BA etc, assuming they get a crew you know they are all trained.
04-06-11 21:58:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC066 04/06/11 21:57,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SHARPLES RD,WALLAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG194,NEAR WALL RD,SAIR55 WAL671 KAD661 KDNA19 - MFS Kadina Response
3 crews turning out to a rubbish fire is rare in it's self. But 2 crews from Kadina turning out in Wallaroo area is a bit odd.
it was a big rubbish fire, bonfire, and wallaroo only has 1 appliance
no different to this job i thought??? 4 appliances to a car crash
RESPOND RCR,MAIN NORTH RD,BLAKEVIEW MAP 42 H 15 TG182,CAR V TREE, CNR SMITH, OUTSIDE EQUESTRIA,N CENTRE. WITH 339.,SAL329 - MFS Salisbury SAL329
RESPOND RCR,MAIN NORTH RD,BLAKEVIEW MAP 42 H 15 TG182,CAR V TREE, OUTSIDE EQUESTIAN CENTRE, PO,SS CNR SMITH.,ELZ339 DALK19 SAL321 - MFS Salisbury SAL321
RESPOND RCR,MAIN NORTH RD,BLAKEVIEW MAP 42 H 15 TG182,CAR V TREE, OUTSIDE EQUESTIAN CENTRE, PO,SS CNR SMITH.,ELZ339 DALK19 SAL321 - CFS Dalkeith Response
RESPOND RCR,MAIN NORTH RD,BLAKEVIEW MAP 42 H 15 TG182,CAR V TREE, OUTSIDE EQUESTIAN CENTRE, PO,SS CNR SMITH.,ELZ339 DALK19 SAL321 - CFS Para Group Officers Response
RESPOND RCR,MAIN NORTH RD,BLAKEVIEW MAP 42 H 15 TG182,CAR V TREE, OUTSIDE EQUESTIAN CENTRE, PO,SS CNR SMITH.,ELZ339 DALK19 SAL321 - MFS Elizabeth ELZ339
not 4 appliances attending.... you must have missed the radio traffic standing 321 down as 329 were closer.... standard MFS response for "RR" incident is 2 MFS appliances (Pump & Rescue, in this case 2 pump/rescue's), being dual response area CFS were also responded... nothing too out of the ordinary about this incident... hope this clarifies.
ROGER THAT, DIDNT HEAR THE RADIO
08-06-11 22:33:03 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/06/11 22:32,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,23 DEERING CR,BANKSIA PARK MAP 85 H 7 TG182,CNR MUSGRAVE,,GGV311 TTGY19 OAK301 - MFS Oakden OAK301
08-06-11 22:32:59 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/06/11 22:32,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,23 DEERING CR,BANKSIA PARK MAP 85 H 7 TG182,CNR MUSGRAVE,,GGV311 TTGY19 OAK301 - CFS Para Group Officers Response
08-06-11 22:32:59 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/06/11 22:32,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,23 DEERING CR,BANKSIA PARK MAP 85 H 7 TG182,CNR MUSGRAVE,,GGV311 TTGY19 OAK301 - CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
08-06-11 22:32:57 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/06/11 22:32,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,23 DEERING CR,BANKSIA PARK MAP 85 H 7 TG182,CNR MUSGRAVE,,GGV311 TTGY19 OAK301 - MFS Golden Grove GGV311
AND THEN
08-06-11 22:49:38 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/06/11 22:49,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,23 DEERING CR,BANKSIA PARK MAP 85 H 7 TG182,PRIORITY 2,SAL321 - MFS Salisbury SAL321
ODD FOR A CAR FIRE???
Perhaps it was more than a car fire...eg threatening / started on a nearby structure.....
Pip
25-06-11 17:22:50 Pager Test, Appliance 5271 is now running as 521 which is first out the door,, Appliance 528 is second out the door and Appliance 529 is not to be driven or moved at all!!!!, SO Higgins - MFS Whyalla Response
Is that temporary or permanent?
It is only until about Tuesday then 529 will be back on the run!
Whats carrying the cutting gear, if its one of those wouldn't you still call it a 9 ?
The Cutting gear is on 528 so either way you can call it either a 8 or a 9 as it is still a 4x4 medium pumper
Can someone explain this to me...
01-07-11 11:17:49 LN1 Cat7 Cnr Crockerton Rd, Elizabeth 51 N16 - Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
cat 7 is a stand by; this was the only call to this address.
Perhaps they had to go back & pick up something that another crew left behind...?
Quote from: Skippy on July 01, 2011, 10:53:37 AM
Can someone explain this to me...
01-07-11 11:17:49 LN1 Cat7 Cnr Crockerton Rd, Elizabeth 51 N16 - Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
cat 7 is a stand by; this was the only call to this address.
I would not expect everything to be dispatched via a pager... maybe they were placed on standby in case they were needed at a serious incident.
Quote from: Skippy on July 01, 2011, 10:53:37 AM
Can someone explain this to me...
01-07-11 11:17:49 LN1 Cat7 Cnr Crockerton Rd, Elizabeth 51 N16 - Adelaide Uni Road Accident Research
cat 7 is a stand by; this was the only call to this address.
The ambulance from Playford had broken down, and he went to ferry the crew back to Elizabeth where workshops delivered a spare fleet. :wink:
22:05:06 02-07-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC086 02/07/11 22:04,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,NORTON SUMMIT RD,TERINGIE MAP 121 B 4 TG126,VICINITY COACHHOUSE DR,CAR HAS LANDED SOMEHOW ENDED UP ON THE R,OOF OF A HOUSE...,ADL204
MFS Adelaide ADL204
1930428 21:43:08 04-07-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC100 04/07/11 21:42,RESPOND ALARM 013/137,SAMFS,HEADQUARTERS,93 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 D 10 TG182,ASE DEVICE 1437,#SPKL 1 SV SW CNR OF PREMS,ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 AD2011
MFS Adelaide
some1 correct me if i am wrong, but isnt that the station.
they only sent the 4 appliances that are where the alarming is going off. shouldnt they sent all metro appliances :-D
Yep, goes off quite regularly.
Someone doesnt know how to cook :-D
05-07-11 00:00:21 C181 CatC ********** St, Paradise 108 H2 POLICE REQUIRED RAAT - SAAS Unit Campbelltown
RAAT?
08-07-11 20:49:56 RP180 CatB ******* North East Rd, St Agnes 84 N14 POLICE REQUIRED RSOM - SAAS Unit Redwood Park
Another one at the end RSOM?
14-07-11 09:06:03 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 09:02,RESPOND Assist Police,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,PRIORITY 2. ONE GUN SHOT FIRED IN SHED.,MEET POLICE AT CNR OF HARVEY ST EAST AND, DAVID TCE @ BP SERVICE STN,WDV249 - MFS Woodville WDV249
14-07-11 13:22:49 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 13:21,RESPOND Assist Police,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,RELIEVE 249. GUN SHOTS FIRED. SAPOL AND,SAAS IN ATTENDANCE,OAK303 - MFS Oakden OAK303
14-07-11 15:00:23 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 14:58,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,STAGE AT CORNER HARVEY STREET EAST AND D,ALE STREET - EAST SIDE OF INTERSECTION,WDV249 CAR041 ADL206 APK361 - MFS Ange Park APK361
14-07-11 15:00:10 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 14:58,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,STAGE AT CORNER HARVEY STREET EAST AND D,ALE STREET - EAST SIDE OF INTERSECTION,WDV249 CAR041 ADL206 APK361 - MFS Adelaide ADL206
14-07-11 15:00:05 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 14:58,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,STAGE AT CORNER HARVEY STREET EAST AND D,ALE STREET - EAST SIDE OF INTERSECTION,WDV249 CAR041 ADL206 APK361 - MFS Adelaide
14-07-11 14:59:52 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 14:58,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,STAGE AT CORNER HARVEY STREET EAST AND D,ALE STREET - EAST SIDE OF INTERSECTION,WDV249 CAR041 ADL206 APK361 - MFS Car 40
14-07-11 14:59:38 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 14:58,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,STAGE AT CORNER HARVEY STREET EAST AND D,ALE STREET - EAST SIDE OF INTERSECTION,WDV249 CAR041 ADL206 APK361 - MFS Woodville WDV249
14-07-11 15:24:55 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 15:23,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,2ND ALARM HAZMAT - PER A.DO MCINTOSH,AD2090 WDV243 PPT371 SEARCY - MFS Prospect 371
14-07-11 15:24:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 15:23,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,2ND ALARM HAZMAT - PER A.DO MCINTOSH,AD2090 WDV243 PPT371 SEARCY - MFS Woodville 243
14-07-11 15:24:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 15:23,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,2ND ALARM HAZMAT - PER A.DO MCINTOSH,AD2090 WDV243 PPT371 SEARCY - MFS Adelaide 2090
14-07-11 15:24:23 MFS: *CFSRES INC019 14/07/11 15:23,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,19 BROOKER CT,WOODVILLE PARK MAP 105 B 8 TG182,2ND ALARM HAZMAT - PER A.DO MCINTOSH,AD2090 WDV243 PPT371 SEARCY - MFS Adelaide Station Broadcast
From what I understand clan lab materials were found on site
yeah drug lab i think
19-07-11 09:12:20 MFS: *CFSRES INC025 19/07/11 09:11,RESPOND Assist SAAS,9 ELDER AV,POORAKA MAP 83 B 15 TG182,PERSON HAS FALLEN FROM LADDER,ASSESS FOR, SAAS,OAK301 - MFS Oakden OAK301
Assess for SAAS? Reads as if there weren't any SAAS crews available...
when oakden arrived on scene there was no saas unit there. Comms said perhaps you would like to make sure the patient is okay.
I believe the job was called into SAMFS first, not sure why but they also passed it on to SAAS who responded on a cat C.
Yes the guy had the fall yesterday from what I heard.
19-07-11 20:20:36 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 19/07/11 20:20,RESPOND To,RIVERVIEW RD,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 350 B 7 TG195,CALL FROM PAYPHONE AT WOOLWORTHS. POSSIB,LE PERSON ALIGHT. FROM SAPOL.,MBR721 - MFS Murray Bridge Response
Although there was a stop call, I had to look twice when I saw this! :-o
Quote from: mattb on July 19, 2011, 02:20:23 PM
I believe the job was called into SAMFS first, not sure why but they also passed it on to SAAS who responded on a cat C.
why wouldn't they pass it to SAAS ?
Quote from: pumprescue on July 19, 2011, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: mattb on July 19, 2011, 02:20:23 PM
I believe the job was called into SAMFS first, not sure why but they also passed it on to SAAS who responded on a cat C.
why wouldn't they pass it to SAAS ?
Was probably meant to read as not sure why it was called into SAMFS first.
Quote from: happyghost on July 04, 2011, 11:15:29 PM
Someone doesnt know how to cook :-D
MFS: *CFSRES INC031 20/07/11 12:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,6-27 SPRUANCE RD,ELIZABETH EAST MAP 62 B 3 TG182,MOBILE PHONE ON STOVE HOT PLATE,ELZ331 ELZ339 - MFS Elizabeth 339
Yeah, what alex said.
Not sure why you would ask for fire when you need an ambulance, unless maybe it was a person from the u.s. used to seeing the fire brigade running medical jobs.
Quote1800172 11:00:48 25-07-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 25/07/11 11:00,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,182 DIAGONAL RD,WARRADALE MAP 140 M 12 TG182,PRIORITY 1 ASSIST OTHER APPLIANCES,OHH421
MFS OHalloran Hill OHH421
Quote1929265 10:04:20 25-07-11 MFS: SNR OFF GRP: FYI HAZMAT INCIDENT FROM 24/7/11 HAS BEEN UPGRADED BACK TO 1ST ALARM HAZMAT DUE TO ATMOS. MONITOR READINGS. D/O ECKERMANN ATTENDING.
MFS 55
Any idea of what substance/s is involved...??? Clan Lab or something else..????
Cheers
Shane
It's Fumitoxin, mixes with air and creates phosphine which is toxic
taken a couple of days to get rid of it.
17:08:01 28-07-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC047 28/07/11 17:07,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,GAWLER BY-PASS RD,WILLASTON MAP 23 D 9 TG182,NORTHERN OUTSKIRTS OF GAWLER,CFS COMMANDER ON SCENE,GAW359 ELZ331 - MFS Elizabeth 331
Was curious why Roseworthy weren't initially responded? Just outside there boundary perhaps? But from the sitrep from 359 it was well into CFS area
17:18:49 28-07-11 MFS: ROSEWORTHY CFS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED AND GIVEN THE SITUATION WILL NOT BE ATTENDING - MFS Gawler 359
The location given by the 'CFS Commander on scene' obviously generated as MFS area in BOMS.
03-08-11 14:03:40 MFS:1: *CFSRES INC035 03/08/11 14:02,RESPOND Hazmat Reduced,ROYAL ADELAIDE HOSPITAL,NORTH TCE,ADELAIDE MAP 118 B 9 TG182,EMERGENCY CAR PARK PACKAGE IN EAST WING,MARKED TRI NITRO GLYCIROL INVESTIGATE,EVAC IN - MFS Adelaide ADL201
Anything know what happened here? I saw the cordon but everyone had different stories as to what happened.
16:49:37 03-08-11 ECHUNGA INFO: WARNING BOMB SQUAD DESTROYING NITROGLYCERINE IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR AT THE POLICE RESERVE, SIGNED CAPTAIN. 0415135291.
probably the same package
Interesting. Why did they take it there? Is there a special reason? And how would they have transported it safely?
Does anyone know the circumstances around it's discovery and why it was at the hospital?
The Manager of some part of the hospital, (can't remember which bit) stated there was an audit done of the contents of fridges in Pharmacy, and the Nitroglycerin was discovered... likely to have been there for many years, as it was used extensively in pharmacy 30 or so years ago.
I am guessing the nitroglycerin was put into the SAPol explosion containment vessel, and driven to Echunga, where it could easily be destroyed, without destroying anything else.....
Pip
Interesting! It's funny how these things turn up, like the WW2 shell found in an old bathroom there a couple years ago.
I suppose they would have made GTN in the hospital back then. Nitroglycerine becomes more unstable over time, so I'm not surprised everyone was a bit concerned!
Would have been good to see it go off!
What else are they going to find when the hospital moves ????
Quote from: bajdas on August 05, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
What else are they going to find when the hospital moves ????
Lord knows?! Probably a whole bunch of catacombs that we don't already know about. Maybe some crypts and some prehistoric remains of a previously unknown species of dinosaur.
But it should be interesting and I'd love to see what else is there. When I was in the catacombs, I found a phone book from 1984!
06-08-11 15:14:52 MFS: *CFSRES INC033 06/08/11 15:14,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MORGAN-RENMARK RD,MORGAN MAP 0 0 0 TG205,CALL FROM SAAS, 1 CAR ROLLOVER 2 ENTRAP,, 20KMS FROM MORGAN TOWARDS RENMARK,MRGN19 CDLL00 WAIK19 - CFS Mid Murray Group Officers Response
Shouldn't this be a RCR? Human error or computer error?
Human error....can't help uselessness
Quote1800180 00:09:36 09-08-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 09/08/11 00:08,RESPOND Assist SAAS,QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL,WOODVILLE RD,WOODVILLE SOUTH MAP 104 L 9 TG182,CODE GREEN, REPORT TO EMERGENCY, MAN WIT,H FISH HOOK IN FINGER,WDV249
MFS Woodville WDV249
Very ouch...!!!! Shark hook..???
MFS: *CFSRES INC040 10/08/11 14:18,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,82 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,PETROL BOMB THROWN INTO RECEPTION,ADL205 CAR041 ADL201
Quote from: fire8029 on August 10, 2011, 01:51:04 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC040 10/08/11 14:18,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,82 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,PETROL BOMB THROWN INTO RECEPTION,ADL205 CAR041 ADL201
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/petrol-bomb-terror/story-e6frea83-1226112490263 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/petrol-bomb-terror/story-e6frea83-1226112490263)
Quote from: fire8029 on August 10, 2011, 01:51:04 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC040 10/08/11 14:18,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,82 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 118 G 12 TG182,PETROL BOMB THROWN INTO RECEPTION,ADL205 CAR041 ADL201
At least the appliances didn't have far to go....the premises is pretty much across the road from MFS HQ!
GOOD AFTERNOON ALL OFFICERS AND SENIORS PLEASE READ YOUR EMAILS AND REPLY TO ME IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEW MFS INCIDENT NUMBER
so whats the new incident numbers?
They could be talking about the SACAD incident number....love how they call it the MFS incident number, its nothing to do with them.....
Hopefully the beer wasn't opened yet :D
11-08-11 17:34:24 TAILEM BEND 34P BACK IN STATION, STANDING DOWN AND FULLY OPERATIONAL 11-Aug-11 17:35:49 - CFS Tailem Bend Info
MFS: *CFSRES INC058 11/08/11 17:35,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,LIME KILN RD,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,100M FROM MALLEE HIGHWAY, FROM SAAS,TLEM19 - CFS Tailem Bend Response
Probably in relation to the trial of the new pager acknowledgment procedure, a few CFS, SES and retained MFS stations are trialing it starting on Monday (15th). Basically acknowledging the page with link paging, who will then page Adelaide Fire with the name of the brigade and the person that called. A message then pops up on their screen with the details.
Will mean that many more operators are able to take the calls than currently exists in Adelaide Fire, one of the problems on a big day (and sometimes not even a big day) is that you can't through to acknowledge.
Quote from: mattb on August 14, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
Probably in relation to the trial of the new pager acknowledgment procedure, a few CFS, SES and retained MFS stations are trialing it starting on Monday (15th). Basically acknowledging the page with link paging, who will then page Adelaide Fire with the name of the brigade and the person that called. A message then pops up on their screen with the details.
Will mean that many more operators are able to take the calls than currently exists in Adelaide Fire, one of the problems on a big day (and sometimes not even a big day) is that you can't through to acknowledge.
Like this:
SA FIRE & RESCUE: PAGER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. INCIDENT NUMBER 22. CFS - SALISBURY. XXXXX XXXXXX, LIEUTENANT - Adelaide Fire Pager Ack
I understand this will be your back up option.
MFS: *CFSRES INC068 16/08/11 18:54,RESPOND Tree Down,WHITE AV,CRAFERS MAP 145 E 10,P3 TREE ACROSS SECONDARY ROAD,MTB020
SA FIRE & RESCUE: PAGER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. INCIDENT NUMBER 68. CFS - MOUNT BARKER. J*** -DUTY OFFICER
Should be an interesting trial...
MFS: *CFSRES INC082 16/08/11 21:12,RESPOND RCR,LINCOLN AV,FULHAM GARDENS MAP 116 C 4 TG182,1 CAR HAS ROLLED ON TOP OF ANOTHER, POSS,IBLE ENTRAPMENTS,WDV249 WDV243 - MFS Woodville WDV249
That requires some skill I think! I'd like to see some pictures.
Quote from: Alex on August 16, 2011, 07:22:53 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC068 16/08/11 18:54,RESPOND Tree Down,WHITE AV,CRAFERS MAP 145 E 10,P3 TREE ACROSS SECONDARY ROAD,MTB020
SA FIRE & RESCUE: PAGER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. INCIDENT NUMBER 68. CFS - MOUNT BARKER. J*** -DUTY OFFICER
Should be an interesting trial...
I noticed several of these errors tonight, could cause major issues of thinking 1 service has called in and they never turnout.
SA FIRE & RESCUE, Could this be the new name for us as one fire service?
Time will tell I suppose.
first post in a while, and its worth it *praying for one Fire & Rescue service* All services under one name: SAFECOM/MFS/CFS/SES.
Quote from: Zippy on August 17, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
first post in a while, and its worth it *praying for one Fire & Rescue service* All services under one name: SAFECOM/MFS/CFS/SES.
No thanks...
I know the full story of this as I am actually the owner of this Unit. The way the whole incident unfolded and the subsaquent handling of it all could do with some improvement.
As mentioned the substance used was Fumitoxin and thankfully that was all.
There was no damage to the unit apart from a couple of smashed windows and lets just say say there wont be any rodent problems in the future.
56 days 05 hours 12 minutes 44 seconds until SACAD solves everything. (http://www.safirefighter.com/sacad_countdown.php)
Quote1908548 10:03:08 01-09-11 MG71 PHIL HAS JUST CONFIRMED 12.00 FOR ARRIVAL OF RS51 AT MGHL
SAAS Unit Mt Gambier
Quote1906658 10:12:50 01-09-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 01/09/11 10:11,RESPOND Assist SAAS,MT GAMBIER HOSPITAL CARPARK WEHL ST N,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0,REQ'D TO SECURE HELICOPTER LANDING AREA., ETA 1200, AFTER REFUELLING AT AIRPORT A,T 1130HRS,MTG029
SES Mt Gambier Response
Really...???? What, no RFDS flights available..??? Thats a bl**dy long flight - have to wonder the circumstances behind this tasking..!?!?
Quote from: straps on September 01, 2011, 10:01:44 AM
Quote1908548 10:03:08 01-09-11 MG71 PHIL HAS JUST CONFIRMED 12.00 FOR ARRIVAL OF RS51 AT MGHL
SAAS Unit Mt Gambier
Quote1906658 10:12:50 01-09-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 01/09/11 10:11,RESPOND Assist SAAS,MT GAMBIER HOSPITAL CARPARK WEHL ST N,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0,REQ'D TO SECURE HELICOPTER LANDING AREA., ETA 1200, AFTER REFUELLING AT AIRPORT A,T 1130HRS,MTG029
SES Mt Gambier Response
Really...???? What, no RFDS flights available..??? Thats a bl**dy long flight - have to wonder the circumstances behind this tasking..!?!?
My thoughts exactly, that's a big job.
Quote15-09-11 10:14:03 FOR INFORMATION WE ARE 2ND RESCUE TO A STAGE OF TARMAC RALLY THIS AFTERNOON, 12 - 4, AVAILABLE RESCUE OPERATORS CALL DAVID - CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Respons
interesting considering they are not actually a rescue resource!
meant for burnside not ashbourne
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on September 15, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
meant for burnside not ashbourne
Aahhh, not even what i was thinking though. Thought Strath group were sending it to Strath CFS.
Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2011, 12:43:12 PM
Aahhh, not even what i was thinking though. Thought Strath group were sending it to Strath CFS.
Was sent to asbournes response code which automatically gets cc'd to the GO's
Quote from: Alex on September 15, 2011, 12:43:12 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on September 15, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
meant for burnside not ashbourne
Aahhh, not even what i was thinking though. Thought Strath group were sending it to Strath CFS.
That would be entirely possible too :lol:
22-09-11 13:11:19 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 22/09/11 13:11,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,JIM SAINT'S BALAKLAVA ,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,,SAIR55 OWEN00 - CFS Owen Repsonse
22-09-11 13:06:15 BALA: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND BALAKLAVA STATION 22-09-11 13:05 - CFS Balaklava Response
22-09-11 12:54:05 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 22/09/11 12:53,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,JIM SAINT'S BALAKLAVA ,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,HMLY BWC REQD,SAIR55 HMLY19 - CFS Hamley Bridge Response
22-09-11 12:34:54 MFS: FROM BALAKLAVA STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 42 - CFS Avon Response
22-09-11 12:34:54 MFS: FROM BALAKLAVA STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 42 - CFS Nantawarra Response
22-09-11 12:34:54 MFS: FROM BALAKLAVA STOP MESSAGE FOR INCIDENT 42 - CFS Mount Templeton Response
22-09-11 12:21:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 22/09/11 12:20,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,JIM SAINT'S BALAKLAVA ,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,SOUTH SIDE OF BALAK-BOWMAN ROAD,SAIR55 BALA00 PTWK19 AVON00 NANT00 MTMP00 - CFS Wakefield Plains Gp Response
Oooops, the old "nah mate the fires under control don't need the brigade"
"ah crap its not actually under control"
MFS: *CFSRES INC044 25/09/11 14:08,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,14 JACOBS DR,WILLUNGA MAP 225 L 4 TG132,MIXED CHEMICALS IN SWIMMING POOL. HAVE H,AD AN EXPLOSION. MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW,WLLG00 ALDB19 EDNH28
just curious, wouldnt be Seaford 469 or Christies 439 be far closer resources to respond to this job than Eden Hills??
They would be Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy closer, but CFS are clowns that don't think like that !!
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on September 25, 2011, 02:53:00 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC044 25/09/11 14:08,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,14 JACOBS DR,WILLUNGA MAP 225 L 4 TG132,MIXED CHEMICALS IN SWIMMING POOL. HAVE H,AD AN EXPLOSION. MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW,WLLG00 ALDB19 EDNH28
just curious, wouldnt be Seaford 469 or Christies 439 be far closer resources to respond to this job than Eden Hills??
Considering Eden Pumper would have driven through 40s, 42s, 43s and 46s area..... yes. [insert bring on SACAD comment here?]
and i reckon victor MFS would almost beat eden there too
Umm...would it be the fact that EDNH28 is Eden Hills Hazmat, which is far closer than the MFS Hazmat truck in the City??????
All '9' pumpers in MFS carry HAZMAT equipment, therefore Seaford 469 and Christies 439 are a tad closer.
But are they specialist hazmat, or just the basic gear? I dont know what a 9 stowage would be, but I noticed that the Hazmat at Hackham on Friday or Saturday (days are a blur right now) even when it as a Met job they sent 206 instead of 439 or 469......
I also noticed that the paged Hag info confirmed that full splash suits were required...would a standard 9 rescue pumper carry these and associated gear?
Pardon my ignorance, I dont really get to play with red trucks in my role....and even when I do not to the extent of knowing their stowage. Always willing to be educated :)
Big Al is right, there is the same gear on a 9, 206 is carrying extra specialist equipment such as over drums etc that not to many CFS truck carry and that we call Burnside to bring the state hazmat appliance, which essentially is what 206 does.
Simple fact, we hate using each others resources....
439 and 469 both attended the hackham hazmat
Quite happily stand corrected :-)
09:41:16 28-09-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC032 28/09/11 09:39,RESPOND Rescue Animal,9 WALLIS ST,PARKSIDE MAP 130 N 7 TG182,P2 CAT ON ROOF HAS BEEN STUCK FOR 12 DAY,S,GLO441 - MFS Glen Osmond Turnout
Only took 12 days to realise it can't get down :roll:
MFS: *CFSRES INC026 13/10/11 13:28,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,KNOTTS HILL RD,BASKET RANGE MAP 122 C 11 TG126,CNR BURDETT RD AND KNOTTS HILL RD,FROM REG 1 DUTY OFFICER,BASK00
No Hazmat response? I would have thought the Regional duty officer would know SOPs?
maybe it was an oil spill or something similar and the adelaide fire put it under that accidentally?
Several 20 litre drums dumped in the creek........ drums labelled Toluene & Acetone. Most with lids on, a few without. Been there for at least a week....
Pip
Them SOP's sure are tough to follow.
20-10-11 07:37:21 MFS: *CFSRES INC008 20/10/11 07:35,RESPOND Assist Police,DUKES HWY,BORDERTOWN MAP 0 0 0,ASSIST POLICE WITH VEHICLE ACCIDENT FROM, LAST NIGHT, ASSIST UNLOADING TRUCK. NEA,R THE BORDER.,BWN029 - SES Bordertown Response
When will SAPOL finally get the point it isnt up to the "VOLUNTEER" to do jobs like this.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 20, 2011, 06:15:25 AM
20-10-11 07:37:21 MFS: *CFSRES INC008 20/10/11 07:35,RESPOND Assist Police,DUKES HWY,BORDERTOWN MAP 0 0 0,ASSIST POLICE WITH VEHICLE ACCIDENT FROM, LAST NIGHT, ASSIST UNLOADING TRUCK. NEA,R THE BORDER.,BWN029 - SES Bordertown Response
When will SAPOL finally get the point it isnt up to the "VOLUNTEER" to do jobs like this.
So what do you propose instead? Pull out 10 patrols from Adelaide and send them down to Bordertown to do the work? Wouldn't preparing a vehicle for recovery be part of the RCR operations? So rather than keep the volunteer crews out there, standing around twiddling their thumbs for hours while Major Crash take their photos, do their mesaurements and tests and whatever else, they release the volunteers, let them go get a couple more hours sleep, then bring them back one the recovery phase of the RCR operations is ready to begin.
Squirting locust carcasses off the road, now THAT is something thats a complete waste of volunteer time.
i propose that when the emergency is over ITS OVER volunteer emergency crews go home. There are Salvage company's that get paid mega bucks to clean this up all the time. This is why we as VOLUNTEERS get used time and time again because unfortunately because of our attitude we give in and do these things.
Obviously my opinion only
Bagyass is right, there are salvage companies that do this, we are NOT in the business of unloading trucks, complete waste of time.
what was it they were unloading?....drums....animals....boxes?
BUT...if the boxes are part of evidence as part of the investigation, then it would be an SES task (remember, they do sort of still fall under Police jurisdiction in a round a bout way). No different to SES doing an evidence search anywhere else really.
But I also understand what you are getting at, we use and abuse the volunteer time way too much.
We are our own worst enemy though, we keep saying yet !! Say NO sometimes, see what happens !
Did any of you fill out and return the "When is the emergency over" questionnaire the VFBA sent out?
Salvage and Overhaul?
Quote1925001 11:04:30 23-10-11 1104 23102011. SESCAM teams required to assist TTG with on-going incident at Falcon Street Holden Hill. Ring Duty Officer
SES Unit?? Info
Whats a SESCAM Team..???
SES Campbelltown perhaps ?
Pip
This is scary enough to not qualify for funny pager messages
DUMEROCHA 34 WILL BE OUT OF ACTION FOR THE NEXT APPROXIMATELY 16 HOURS. xxxxxx. - CFS Gumeracha Response
Seriously...how long have they been taking our pager messages for - yet they still get it so horrendously wrong!
ok.... GRN Website says
27-10-11 15:26:27 **SACAD TEST**MFS: *CFSRES INC0022 27/10/11 15:26 RESPOND HEAVY RESCUE WARRADALE RAILWAY STATION (WARRADALE) ADDISON RD WARRADALE MAP:ADL 152 N 2,TG TALK2, ==TEST TEST TESTING :ADL204 CMS DUTY OFFCR MLO STM401 STM409 :(Part 1 of 2) - MFS SACAD testing
The Advertiser/Adelaide Now says:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/train-commuters-can-expect-delays/story-e6frea83-1226178628722 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/train-commuters-can-expect-delays/story-e6frea83-1226178628722)
is the newsroom developing the stories from the GRN website now??...lol
there were non test messages earlier as well though.
MFS: *CFSRES INC037 27/10/11 14:50,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,WARRADALE RAILWAY STATION,RAILWAY TCE,WARRADALE MAP 152 L 2 TG182,TRAIN VS PEDESTRIAN,STM409 MET020 STM401 ADL204 AD2027 CAR041
maybe they were putting real jobs into sacad to see what it will produce?
Yeah Ive seen them duplicate some real jobs as SACAD test over the last few days.
The no-duff train one was K41-1 too......
You guys need to get a life.
Quote from: flyonthewall on October 27, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
You guys need to get a life.
lighten up Francis.... :lol:
Was just an interesting coincidence......you know "interesting"....like the topic heading says?
Quote from: vsteve01 on October 27, 2011, 03:53:35 PM
there were non test messages earlier as well though.
MFS: *CFSRES INC037 27/10/11 14:50,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,WARRADALE RAILWAY STATION,RAILWAY TCE,WARRADALE MAP 152 L 2 TG182,TRAIN VS PEDESTRIAN,STM409 MET020 STM401 ADL204 AD2027 CAR041
maybe they were putting real jobs into sacad to see what it will produce?
Yep, tested afterwards to see if it got the same/similar response.
Worked perfectly.\\27-10-11 15:26:27 **SACAD TEST**MFS: *CFSRES INC0022 27/10/11 15:26 RESPOND HEAVY RESCUE WARRADALE RAILWAY STATION (WARRADALE) ADDISON RD WARRADALE MAP:ADL 152 N 2,TG TALK2, ==TEST TEST TESTING :ADL204 CMS DUTY OFFCR MLO STM401 STM409 :(Part 1 of 2) - MFS SACAD testing
CMS is effectively the current CAR041
DUTY OFFCR is a notification to the Adelaide Station duty officer to load and roll the heavy rescue pod.
Notifying the MLOs of all incidents 'of interest' is a new procedure.
6/11/2011 9:29:09 AM EE.Group message to all arno bay members. next sunday 13th come and meet new captain and to do annual burn over drill 9 am arno bay station - CFS Arno Bay Info
uuummmm wouldnt they have met him when they voted him in at the AGM......
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on November 06, 2011, 08:04:11 AM
6/11/2011 9:29:09 AM EE.Group message to all arno bay members. next sunday 13th come and meet new captain and to do annual burn over drill 9 am arno bay station - CFS Arno Bay Info
uuummmm wouldnt they have met him when they voted him in at the AGM......
Can't the exec elect when its not agm time.
I think in unusual circumstances the region can appoint a temporary captain, but otherwise its a voted position....but yes thing are going well when you have to invite the members to meet the captain because they have no idea who it is!!
Deleted after getting more information...climbing off soap box...for now!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on November 06, 2011, 08:04:11 AM
6/11/2011 9:29:09 AM EE.Group message to all arno bay members. next sunday 13th come and meet new captain and to do annual burn over drill 9 am arno bay station - CFS Arno Bay Info
uuummmm wouldnt they have met him when they voted him in at the AGM......
EE.Group Arno bay members 9.00am tommorrow morning Burn over drill and Elect new capatin, all members urged to attend. - CFS Arno Bay Info
new one didnt last long thats got to be some kind of record :wink:
Quote1916090 00:05:49 30-11-11 Y181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0007 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Yankalilla
1916081 00:05:48 30-11-11 V181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0002 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Victor Harbor
1916079 00:05:48 30-11-11 ST181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0003 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Strathalbyn
1916071 00:05:48 30-11-11 MW181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0004 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Meadows
1929744 00:05:46 30-11-11 LS2 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0006 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit LS
1925567 00:05:46 30-11-11 AL181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0005 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Noarlunga
1916018 00:05:46 30-11-11 GO181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0001 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Goolwa
1925583 00:05:43 30-11-11 AL181 PR: 2 - 2 MARK LANE GOOLWA M: 308 B 3 C: GOO 2 B 3 D0005 Disp: 00:05 Chest Pain
SAAS Unit Aldinga
Is this an automated type dispatch by SACAD (for nearest resource etc) or an operator derived dispatch - seems like a lot of resources for this case... Didnt see any "disregard / event cancelled" messages afterwards either..???
Just curious..????
QuoteMFS: *CFSRES INC0030 02/12/11 11:39 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 DUKES HWY COOMBE MAP:C/66 54,CALLER: == CARAVAN ROLLOVER 10 KM ADELAIDE SIDE OF KEITH :CMBE24 KEI29 : - CFS Coorong Group Officers Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC0030 02/12/11 11:39 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 DUKES HWY COOMBE MAP:C/66 54,CALLER: == CARAVAN ROLLOVER 10 KM ADELAIDE SIDE OF KEITH :CMBE24 KEI29 : - SES RO
MFS: *CFSRES INC0030 02/12/11 11:39 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 DUKES HWY COOMBE MAP:C/66 54,CALLER: == CARAVAN ROLLOVER 10 KM ADELAIDE SIDE OF KEITH :CMBE24 KEI29 : - SES Keith Response
stop from sapol - SES Keith Response
stop from sapol - SES RO
stop from sapol - CFS Coorong Group Officers Response
Is this stop call appopriate? No indication of where it initiated from. No indication of where it's going to. Eg: Coombe are in the initial response but didn't get a stop call. Would this be confusing for Coorong Group Officers? (PS: I can't even see where Coombe got the initial page, but I'm only looking at the paging site).
Report it, for the love if god report it !!!
Quote from: pumprescue on December 02, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
Report it, for the love if god report it !!!
Ha ha ha. If I could spell appropriate I would! :-D
MFS: *CFSRES INC0067 02/12/11 17:21 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, 293 EIGHTH ST RENMARK NORTH,MAP:C/245 54,TG 209, == FROM SAPOL 2 CARS UNSURE OF TRAPPED ==FROM SAPOL 2 CARS UNSURE TRAPPED ==FROM SAPOL 2 CARS UNSURE TRAPPED :REN6114 REN618 :
OK then, from SAPOL 2 cars unsure trapped. Got it?!
Cop this mouthful
MFS: *CFSRES INC0030 03/12/11 08:10 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @COQ - GENERIC MULTI STATION 99 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 H12,TG 182, :ADL202 ADL203 APK361 BLP211 CDN439 GLO441 PPT371 STM401 STM409 WDV243 : - MFS GlenOsmond GLO441
Appliances are then told via RT where they are going, and "listen carefully" operator rattles off where you are going.
Looks more like a large scale test to me Jeff
Procesure is rhat Change of quarters appliance either get told on there mct message if it's a multi change, or just get a response with the appropriate station as the location.
Good news for comms is that we are now able to send messages to MCTs only again ;)
03-12-11 16:37:02 MFS: *CFSRES INC0065 03/12/11 16:35 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @MFS - 20 99 WAKEFIELD ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 H12,TG 182, == 401 to station 20 == 243 to station 20 :WDV243 : - MFS Woodville WDV243
And again..
03-12-11 18:47:04 MFS: *CFSRES INC0080 03/12/11 18:46 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @CFS - ONE TREE HILL,MAP:ADL 54 E14,TG 102, ==BURNPUMP19 TO O.T.H. STATION. TG 102 :BURNPUMP19 : - CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
03-12-11 18:46:55 BURN INFO: Youre about to get responded as a COQ to one tree hill stn for rescue coverage 3/12/2011 18:46:41 - CFS Burnside Info
Surely you'd just let the response page happen...?
19:17:20 03-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0082 03/12/11 19:16 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, EDUCATION RD HAPPY VALLEY,MAP:ADL 178 B 4,TG 134, :BKWD19 HPPYPUMP
THEN
19:17:33 03-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0082 03/12/11 19:16 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, EDUCATION RD HAPPY VALLEY,MAP:ADL 178 B 4,TG 134, :BKWD19 CDN439 HPPYPUMP
THEN
19:20:53 03-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0082 03/12/11 19:16 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, EDUCATION RD HAPPY VALLEY,MAP:ADL 178 B 4,TG 134, :EDNH14
THEN
19:28:48 03-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0082 03/12/11 19:16 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, EDUCATION RD HAPPY VALLEY,MAP:ADL 178 B 4,TG 134, :EDNHPUMP28
What the hell happened there, looks like AF intervened and and added the correct rescue, but the default for Blackwood rescue went to Eden Hills who aren't rescue.
Apprently the Blackwood crew are offline for annual dinner....but clearly not offline in the right place !! Oh thats right Sturt have to keep everything inhouse and not let the outside world know what is going on (much like a cult). Not to mention they have never been rescue for that area.
Haha.... Must...not...lose...control!!!!!!
I believe Blackwood did respond to this job, so why were Eden turned out at all ??
They aren't rescue, and never have been so why would Blackwood be defaulting to them for rescue. Aren't Christies MFS the rescue resource to that area anyway.
Probably not the biggest issue for the day, but stuff that will need to be sorted out.
This one was probably more likely to attract their attention;
MFS: *CFSRES INC0049 03/12/11 14:07 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, MAIN RD MARRABEL,MAP:C/236 54,TG 097, == 5KM SOUTH OF KAPUNDA == 5KM SOUTH OF MARABLE :EDNH14 KAPD34 : - CFS Eden Hills Response
Not often you will see Eden and Kapunda on the same page.
Or Kapunda and Whyalla;
MFS: *CFSRES INC0078 03/12/11 18:30 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE INC LPG, EIGHT MILE CREEK RD NO SUBURB,MAP:C/361 53,TG 068, :KAPD34 WHY528 : - CFS Kapunda Response
I'm sure it is all just teething problems, a couple of big jobs today was always going to test the system.
Quote from: mattb on December 03, 2011, 08:36:04 PM
I believe Blackwood did respond to this job, so why were Eden turned out at all ??
They aren't rescue, and never have been so why would Blackwood be defaulting to them for rescue. Aren't Christies MFS the rescue resource to that area anyway.
Eden Hills Used to carry Heavy Rescue Equip, and when State took it away, they had/have Rapid Intervention Combi Tool.
Quote from: mattb on December 03, 2011, 08:36:04 PM
I believe Blackwood did respond to this job, so why were Eden turned out at all ??
Sturt DO asked for them to be responded. Not sure why though.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0049 03/12/11 14:07 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, MAIN RD MARRABEL,MAP:C/236 54,TG 097, == 5KM SOUTH OF KAPUNDA == 5KM SOUTH OF MARABLE :EDNH14 KAPD34 : - CFS Eden Hills Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC0078 03/12/11 18:30 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE INC LPG, EIGHT MILE CREEK RD NO SUBURB,MAP:C/361 53,TG 068, :KAPD34 WHY528 : - CFS Kapunda Response
I think the two significant fires Region 2 had yesterday gave SACAD a real test
Have seen a few pages with brigade codes on them but they dont actually seem to have received the page?
East Torrens strike team ended up with Mudla Wirra 24 & Mallala 22 on the page.
More interesting since Mallala 22 ceased to exist over 2 years ago!
Pip
Quote from: safireservice on December 04, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
Have seen a few pages with brigade codes on them but they dont actually seem to have received the page?
For some reason it leaves there call sign on response pages until they ack even if it's not re paging them.
Someone must hate East Torrens even more than Sturt.
It also included a page for Cherry Gardens (CHRY34)
Corrected shortly thereafter to Cherryville (CHVL24)
Would that be database or operator error?
Quote from: Pipster on December 04, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
East Torrens strike team ended up with Mudla Wirra 24 & Mallala 22 on the page.
More interesting since Mallala 22 ceased to exist over 2 years ago!
Pip
QuoteEden Hills Used to carry Heavy Rescue Equip, and when State took it away, they had/have Rapid Intervention Combi Tool.
Sorry I forgot that they did carry the full kit many years ago. Do they still have the RIV kit or has it gone now ?
Quote from: Alan J on December 05, 2011, 12:11:04 AM
Someone must hate East Torrens even more than Sturt.
It also included a page for Cherry Gardens (CHRY34)
Corrected shortly thereafter to Cherryville (CHVL24)
Would that be database or operator error?
Quote from: Pipster on December 04, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
East Torrens strike team ended up with Mudla Wirra 24 & Mallala 22 on the page.
More interesting since Mallala 22 ceased to exist over 2 years ago!
Pip
I thought the operator had no input, it was all done by the information that was supplied?
Only to 4th alarm, then it's manual input via region for strike teams.
DRIVER TRAINING THURSDAY 8/12/11 ALL TRUCK DRIVER REQUIRED CONTACT ***** ***** - CFS Elena Info
Just saw this and cant find it on the promotions site as a brigade. Is it a new one or a re-named one?
Not on Promo site, cos I don't think it exists....certainly hasn't been gazetted in the Government Gazette!
What time was it paged - I'll have a look at my PDW file...
Pip
it is no different to Rockleigh CFS, who are currently sharing a station with Monarto
Quote from: safireservice on December 05, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
DRIVER TRAINING THURSDAY 8/12/11 ALL TRUCK DRIVER REQUIRED CONTACT ***** ***** - CFS Elena Info
Just saw this and cant find it on the promotions site as a brigade. Is it a new one or a re-named one?
It went to Roxby CFS Info. Must be a typo on the PDW filter.
Quote from: kiwifirefighter on December 05, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
it is no different to Rockleigh CFS, who are currently sharing a station with Monarto
Not quite...
Rockleigh 24 is actually a Monarto appliance - as the Rockleigh brigade doesn't exist in its own right yet....
At some stage in the future, they are likely to become a brigade in their own right......
Pip
THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE THAT ATTENDED TODAY'S FIRE COURSE. UM - SES Sturt Info
Anyone know what this course was??
Quote from: 2468 on December 10, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE THAT ATTENDED TODAY'S FIRE COURSE. UM - SES Sturt Info
Anyone know what this course was??
Fire Bomber Support Training at a guess
MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 18/12/11 22:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LOT 13 HUXTABLE RD WATERLOO CORNER,MAP:ADL 50 A 8,TG 102, ==SPARKS FROM JUNCTION BOX UNDER CARPORT, CNR SHORT RD. :ELZ331 ELZ339 SAL321 VIRG19 :
Wow, what a massive case of over-kill.
08:47:57 19-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0025 19/12/11 08:47 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, JETTY RD GLENELG,MAP:ADL 140 F 4,TG 182, ==OLIVE OIL LEAKING FROM A WHEELIE BIN OUTSIDE CARUSOS FRUIT AND VEG, PRIORITY 2 :CPK411 : - MFS Camden Park 411
Please.... :roll:
Whats the go with this job?
19-12-11 14:45:37 MFS: *CFSRES INC0059 19/12/11 14:45 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE INC LPG, ROSETTA ST/HERBERT RD WEST CROYDON,MAP:ADL 105 E12,TG 182, :ADL205 ADL206 CAR2031 MLO OAK301 PPT371 S1 BUTTON SMGMTGRP WDV249 : - MFS Prospect Station
Yeah I saw that and went searching for the initial dispatch, only to see that WAS the initial.
Had to be more to it than what was on the pager....
Was a vehicle on LPG against a structure, other appliances stop called enroute. :wink:
Quote from: FlameTrees on December 19, 2011, 03:29:03 PM
Yeah I saw that and went searching for the initial dispatch, only to see that WAS the initial.
Had to be more to it than what was on the pager....
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/burning-car-damages-church-at-west-croydon/story-e6frea83-1226226013571 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/burning-car-damages-church-at-west-croydon/story-e6frea83-1226226013571)
seems like there was a few exposures to the job hence the response
Quote from: safireservice on December 18, 2011, 08:51:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 18/12/11 22:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LOT 13 HUXTABLE RD WATERLOO CORNER,MAP:ADL 50 A 8,TG 102, ==SPARKS FROM JUNCTION BOX UNDER CARPORT, CNR SHORT RD. :ELZ331 ELZ339 SAL321 VIRG19 :
Wow, what a massive case of over-kill.
Better to be safe than sorry. If indoubt turn them out
Quote from: Ferret on December 19, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: safireservice on December 18, 2011, 08:51:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 18/12/11 22:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LOT 13 HUXTABLE RD WATERLOO CORNER,MAP:ADL 50 A 8,TG 102, ==SPARKS FROM JUNCTION BOX UNDER CARPORT, CNR SHORT RD. :ELZ331 ELZ339 SAL321 VIRG19 :
Wow, what a massive case of over-kill.
Better to be safe than sorry. If indoubt turn them out
EMA response plan gone wrong by the looks...
Quote from: Alex on December 19, 2011, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: Ferret on December 19, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: safireservice on December 18, 2011, 08:51:58 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 18/12/11 22:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LOT 13 HUXTABLE RD WATERLOO CORNER,MAP:ADL 50 A 8,TG 102, ==SPARKS FROM JUNCTION BOX UNDER CARPORT, CNR SHORT RD. :ELZ331 ELZ339 SAL321 VIRG19 :
Wow, what a massive case of over-kill.
Better to be safe than sorry. If indoubt turn them out
EMA response plan gone wrong by the looks...
Same job in MFS area doesnt even attract that much attention.
Deleted out of respect.
it would have been nearly melted on the ground by the time the other 3 pumps got there.
Yep Quorn and Hawker are roughly 110kms away, Stirling North 230 kms away.....
23:12:24 27-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0065 27/12/11 23:12 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, JENKINS AV WHYALLA STUART,MAP:WYA 2 B 3,TG 062, ==SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER, NEAR BASKETBALL COURTS INTERSECTION OF DIRT RD :WHY523 WHY529 : - MFS Whyalla 529 Response
23:32:57 27-12-11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0065 27/12/11 23:12 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, JENKINS AV WHYALLA STUART,MAP:WYA 2 B 3,TG 062, ==SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER, NEAR BASKETBALL COURTS INTERSECTION OF DIRT RD :CDN431 : - MFS Christie Downs 431
Hey why not,like other incidents, it would be wrong sending closest resources :evil:
(Tongue in cheek)
Quote1909082 10:22:18 03-01-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0042 03/01/12 10:09 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, MAIN SOUTH RD CAPE JERVIS,MAP:C/79D 54,TG 144, == TRUCK BROCKEN DOWN ON CAPE JERVOIS HILL. TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT REQUIRED PRIORITY :RAPD34 :
CFS Rapid Bay Response
Using vols instead of SAPOL..???? or is it for the primary response to make safe until SAPOL arrive..???
Just curious...????
I would guess to assist SAPOL as only ever one unit on duty at Normanville covering the whole of this area - take a while to get another either from Christies Beach or Victor Harbor??
What if a ferry arrived and there was a whole 30 cars in a 10 minute period?? :wink:
16:36:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 04/01/12 16:35 RESPOND REQUEST SAAS ASSIST, 49 KINGDON PL GOOLWA SOUTH,MAP:ADL 307 M 8,TG 138, == ASSIST SAAS WITH LIFT :GLWA19 : - CFS Goolwa Response
Just curious as to how we would have ended up with this incident number when previous and post calls were 64/65?
Mmm interesting. Looks like they have accidentally created a saas event and then attached you to a "saas job".
There is no "assist saas" event type in cad for fire or ses attendance, hence why we are seeing a lot of "assist resident" with further details saying the job is assisting ambos.
That job "request saas assist" is actually used to send a message to the Ambos for them to attend a fire job in 'interCAD'' which is the link between safire, saas and spoil when SACAD is brought fully online.
Hope that makes sense.
Quote from: Alex on January 04, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Mmm interesting. Looks like they have accidentally created a saas event and then attached you to a "saas job".
There is no "assist saas" event type in cad for fire or ses attendance, hence why we are seeing a lot of "assist resident" with further details saying the job is assisting ambos.
That job "request saas assist" is actually used to send a message to the Ambos for them to attend a fire job in 'interCAD'' which is the link between safire, saas and spoil when SACAD is brought fully online.
Hope that makes sense.
I read from that: operator error :P
Question: Whose idea was it to break up the daily incident number system into ....god knows another groups..
Isn't the whole point of the DIN, for the comcen to differentiate between each and every job.
I would have thought each DIN, has a different AIRS incident number.
E.g
INC0001 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERICAL BLA
INC0001 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS
As the COQ is an action caused by Incident 0001 ;)
Quote from: Alex on January 04, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Mmm interesting. Looks like they have accidentally created a saas event and then attached you to a "saas job".
There is no "assist saas" event type in cad for fire or ses attendance, hence why we are seeing a lot of "assist resident" with further details saying the job is assisting ambos.
That job "request saas assist" is actually used to send a message to the Ambos for them to attend a fire job in 'interCAD'' which is the link between safire, saas and spoil when SACAD is brought fully online.
Hope that makes sense.
Cheers Alex makes sense now.... Interesting that Assist SAAS is quite an often event for MFS/CFS yet its not in CAD, would have thought it would have carried over from BOMS
Quote from: Zippy on January 04, 2012, 11:16:38 PM
Question: Whose idea was it to break up the daily incident number system into ....god knows another groups..
Isn't the whole point of the DIN, for the comcen to differentiate between each and every job.
I would have thought each DIN, has a different AIRS incident number.
E.g
INC0001 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERICAL BLA
INC0001 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS
As the COQ is an action caused by Incident 0001 ;)
And CoQ's have a different AIRS code to a structure fire...
A CoQ should have it's own DIN no? It is a discrete appliance movement after all.
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 05, 2012, 06:12:41 AM
Quote from: Alex on January 04, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Mmm interesting. Looks like they have accidentally created a saas event and then attached you to a "saas job".
There is no "assist saas" event type in cad for fire or ses attendance, hence why we are seeing a lot of "assist resident" with further details saying the job is assisting ambos.
That job "request saas assist" is actually used to send a message to the Ambos for them to attend a fire job in 'interCAD'' which is the link between safire, saas and spoil when SACAD is brought fully online.
Hope that makes sense.
Cheers Alex makes sense now.... Interesting that Assist SAAS is quite an often event for MFS/CFS yet its not in CAD, would have thought it would have carried over from BOMS
Yep, ya would think so. Hopefully brigades are putting in forms every time they get a misleading event type on there pagers.
And CoQ's have a different AIRS code to a structure fire...
A CoQ should have it's own DIN no? It is a discrete appliance movement after all.
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I think COQ should have there own inc number, i know it doesnt happen very often but when regional do COQ you need a job number.
09:44:02 05-01-12 (Part 1 of 2) CFS:*CFSRES: LIGHT STRIKE TEAM REQUIRED MEET PT WAKEFIELD 11:30AM TODAY, BACK SUNDAY, FREELING QRV, GREENOCK 14, KAPUNDA 34, WOOLSHEDS 34, DUBLIN 24, CAPTAINS RING LIGHT D/O 0417845862. - CFS Light Group Info
Interesting to send Woolsheds who are a 1 appliance brigade when 3 other brigades in the group who have 2 appliances aren't even sending 1
I think only kapunda and freeling ended up going attached to para groups strike team..
Quote from: Zippy on January 04, 2012, 11:16:38 PM
Question: Whose idea was it to break up the daily incident number system into ....god knows another groups..
Isn't the whole point of the DIN, for the comcen to differentiate between each and every job.
I would have thought each DIN, has a different AIRS incident number.
E.g
INC0001 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERICAL BLA
INC0001 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS
As the COQ is an action caused by Incident 0001 ;)
"AIRS numbers", PIRs are sequential for every job added to AIRS, these push automatically from SACAD regardless of the agency or DIN and are always unique, ie; they dont reset at midnight.
Each Comcen generates its own DINs which are meant to represent part of the workload and contain COQ. Since the transition to SACAD, SAFire and SASES events seem to have split into there own sets of DINs.
So yes, every event is meant to have its own DIN, however SES get there own counter.
Quote1909066 04:50:27 06-01-12 CFSRES VICTOR: URGENT STRIKE TEAM REQUIRED FOR 8AM DEPARTURE TODAY FOR LOWER FLINDERS. RETURN MONDAY. PHONE GC ON 8552 3210 IF AVAILABLE. FROM GO. VH-Base 6/1/2
Quote1909066 04:14:27 06-01-12 CFSRES OPS SUPPORT: IMMEDIATE RESPONSE OF OPS SUPPORT BRIGADE TO VICTOR GROUP CENTRE TO ASSIST WITH ASSEMBLY OF STRIKE TEAM. FROM GO. 6/1/2012
I am curious as to whether 0430 recruitment for Strike teams and resources are really warranted given that this incident has been going for at least 3 - 4 days now..?? Whilst I fully appreciate that any fire can be dynamic and resource requirements can change rapidly, I would have thought that the resources required would be better understood (rather than a new, escalating fire) and that recruitment and acquisition of resources would occur in a more timely manner.
I am not being critical but rather making a constructive "outsiders" observation and asking whether this is the norm and / or appropriate for an incident that is 'not new' so to speak and that a 'Reduced Threat' message was issued last night...
ANy thoughts / feedback...???
I think that its rubbish having such short notice for such a long deployment, but it all comes down to poor planning, i have done a 3 day KI deployment on 10 mins notice yet everyone else on the same plane had 12 hrs notice.
And why on earth would you need your OPS support brigade to activate for a 3 or 4 appliance strike team to well outside your area.
06-01-12 09:24:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 06/01/12 09:23 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @MFS - 64 **UNK** MAIN ST KAPUNDA,MAP:SKP 1 G 9,TG 093, :GAW359 : - MFS Gawler GAW359
06-01-12 09:24:10 MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 06/01/12 09:23 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @MFS - 64 **UNK** MAIN ST KAPUNDA,MAP:SKP 1 G 9,TG 093, :GAW359 : - MFS Gawler Station
why is this happening, i dont see a job for kapunda?
Planning & Timing doesnt seem to be on Region 1's side at present.
The initial Sturt/Lofty/Mawson/ET strike team left yesterday at 1500.
Instead of 8pm or 5am this morning, The call to individual brigades in Victor/Strath/Onka/SouthFleu should have started at 1500 yesterday. That gives people time at work, to discuss arrangements with there bosses. Departure time could have still been 0700.
In 2009, for the victorian fire deployments, Region 1, did a very good job. They paged all of the group officers at the same time, bringing the request to all GO/DGO/CAPT's attention at the same time. Due to this, pre-planning was on the spot, rather than delayed.
Was information flow a victim of staff movements??? Region 2 are kicking 1's asses.
Kapunda have no crew
Boring as batpoo day for the gawler lads then
Quote1930428 12:53:57 06-01-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0042 06/01/12 11:56 RESPOND STAGING AREA, THIRD ST WILMINGTON,MAP:C/398 54,TG 071, ==AS PER DISCUSSION WITH D/O STAPLE. :ADL201 SAL321 :
MFS Adelaide Station
Is this likely for more personnel or specialised fleet, due to some form of asset protection..???
If it were personnel alone, then I would have thought a mini bus with personnel on board would be more efficient than driving BRT into the country..!?!?
Just curious (again not being critical, more intrigued)..
Cheers
Shane
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on January 06, 2012, 06:50:42 AM
I think that its rubbish having such short notice for such a long deployment, but it all comes down to poor planning, i have done a 3 day KI deployment on 10 mins notice yet everyone else on the same plane had 12 hrs notice.
Yep, noticed yesterday Sturt group got 1 hr notice to organise 3 appliances with crews for a 3 day deployment? And they wonder why people cant manage it.
Quote from: straps on January 06, 2012, 11:58:53 AM
Quote1930428 12:53:57 06-01-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0042 06/01/12 11:56 RESPOND STAGING AREA, THIRD ST WILMINGTON,MAP:C/398 54,TG 071, ==AS PER DISCUSSION WITH D/O STAPLE. :ADL201 SAL321 :
MFS Adelaide Station
Is this likely for more personnel or specialised fleet, due to some form of asset protection..???
If it were personnel alone, then I would have thought a mini bus with personnel on board would be more efficient than driving BRT into the country..!?!?
Just curious (again not being critical, more intrigued)..
Cheers
Shane
More than likely BRTs for asset protection in the townships. Not point having personell without equipment to get to work.
Its for asset protection PP501 PP5014 and Kadina661 are also up there the fire is very active.
Quote from: Zippy on January 06, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Region 2 are kicking 1's asses.
R2 have been in everything (not just planning) for a while now. Giving people 15mins, or an hour, notice to go away for 3-5 days is very poor organisational planning and very poor treatment of volunteers (especially for a fire that has been going for some time).
As for the Victor group pages, I'm very surprised the GO did that. A 10am departure to drive that distance would make no practical difference on the fireground.
We were told on Thu night that no more region 1 crews would be needed until Today, then we got the 4am wake up call. Based on the pager messages earlier on Thu I prebooked my leave with my bosses.
It made a long day to. We didn't get into the awesome tents until 11-12 that night.
We got deployed almost straight away and don't think we relieved anyone.
The fire was rapidly changing and the wind shifts were amazing. A couple of times we were blacking out a control line, then watching it take off before falling back a k or 2 to the next control line. I believe this behaviour didn't stop during the night, so the 4am call could have been of panic.
I heard originally they wanted the crews for 8am, which got hit on the head straight away.
Quote1930443 20:12:17 08-01-12 E2 PR: 2 - : @GLOUCESTER RESIDENTIAL CARE 25 ROOPENA ST INGLE FARM 83 H16 D0702 Disp: 20:01 HEALTH CARE
SAAS Unit H5
Can't remember if I have asked before, but who / what is E2..??
CHeers
Shane
Quote from: vsteve01 on January 08, 2012, 06:01:49 PM
It made a long day to. We didn't get into the awesome tents until 11-12 that night.
Must have been extremely unconfortable in those tents during the day, especially friday.
Quote from: safireservice on January 08, 2012, 08:43:05 PM
Quote from: vsteve01 on January 08, 2012, 06:01:49 PM
It made a long day to. We didn't get into the awesome tents until 11-12 that night.
Must have been extremely unconfortable in those tents during the day, especially friday.
The day sleepers got stretchers in a gym.
The night was bad enough hot, humid, noisy and uncomfortable. Not a lot of sleep was had by all
Quote from: straps on January 06, 2012, 06:16:08 AM
Quote1909066 04:50:27 06-01-12 CFSRES VICTOR: URGENT STRIKE TEAM REQUIRED FOR 8AM DEPARTURE TODAY FOR LOWER FLINDERS. RETURN MONDAY. PHONE GC ON 8552 3210 IF AVAILABLE. FROM GO. VH-Base 6/1/2
Quote1909066 04:14:27 06-01-12 CFSRES OPS SUPPORT: IMMEDIATE RESPONSE OF OPS SUPPORT BRIGADE TO VICTOR GROUP CENTRE TO ASSIST WITH ASSEMBLY OF STRIKE TEAM. FROM GO. 6/1/2012
I am curious as to whether 0430 recruitment for Strike teams and resources are really warranted given that this incident has been going for at least 3 - 4 days now..?? Whilst I fully appreciate that any fire can be dynamic and resource requirements can change rapidly, I would have thought that the resources required would be better understood (rather than a new, escalating fire) and that recruitment and acquisition of resources would occur in a more timely manner.
I am not being critical but rather making a constructive "outsiders" observation and asking whether this is the norm and / or appropriate for an incident that is 'not new' so to speak and that a 'Reduced Threat' message was issued last night...
ANy thoughts / feedback...???
Yep. I was on the IMT that made that decision. We identified due to increased fire activity overnight, and a chronic change in weather forecast received at 0300 that we were going to need more resources than had originally been planned for. Reduced Threat was replaced at 0530 with a WAM.
I will clarify that we didnt make the decision what groups / regions went, or to wake up the Ops team at Victor.
We just identified needed more resources. And needed them before 10am!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0018 09/01/12 05:03 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, : @RESTHAVEN #033/030 200 ADAMS RD CRAIGMORE,MAP:ADL 52 Q 2,TG 102, ==INPUT DESC - SPKL ADJACENT MAIN ENTRY :DALK19 ELZ331 ELZ339 MORK34 R2 HUTCHIN :
Operator error perhaps?
Quote from: FlameTrees on January 09, 2012, 08:19:17 AM
...IMT...
there's the source of the problem right there :lol:
Quote from: safireservice on January 09, 2012, 02:14:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0018 09/01/12 05:03 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, : @RESTHAVEN #033/030 200 ADAMS RD CRAIGMORE,MAP:ADL 52 Q 2,TG 102, ==INPUT DESC - SPKL ADJACENT MAIN ENTRY :DALK19 ELZ331 ELZ339 MORK34 R2 HUTCHIN :
Operator error perhaps?
There was a page just after this that said stop call.
Yes there was but the question is just how did they get on the response? I thought SACAD was all automated and free of operator input in the initial turnout?
It is free of operator input, there was no operator input involved, operators only hit recomend then dispatch, remember that when you get a response....
Interesting then, i've seen them responded there before but with no Moorak 34.
Moorok 34, Murray bridge 24P and port macdonnel 34 had all defaulted to K7 , relocated to, Dalkeith station, hence why the system reccomended them.
No operator error in this case.
Quote from: FlameTrees on January 09, 2012, 08:19:17 AM
Quote from: straps on January 06, 2012, 06:16:08 AM
Quote1909066 04:50:27 06-01-12 CFSRES VICTOR: URGENT STRIKE TEAM REQUIRED FOR 8AM DEPARTURE TODAY FOR LOWER FLINDERS. RETURN MONDAY. PHONE GC ON 8552 3210 IF AVAILABLE. FROM GO. VH-Base 6/1/2
Quote1909066 04:14:27 06-01-12 CFSRES OPS SUPPORT: IMMEDIATE RESPONSE OF OPS SUPPORT BRIGADE TO VICTOR GROUP CENTRE TO ASSIST WITH ASSEMBLY OF STRIKE TEAM. FROM GO. 6/1/2012
I am curious as to whether 0430 recruitment for Strike teams and resources are really warranted given that this incident has been going for at least 3 - 4 days now..?? Whilst I fully appreciate that any fire can be dynamic and resource requirements can change rapidly, I would have thought that the resources required would be better understood (rather than a new, escalating fire) and that recruitment and acquisition of resources would occur in a more timely manner.
I am not being critical but rather making a constructive "outsiders" observation and asking whether this is the norm and / or appropriate for an incident that is 'not new' so to speak and that a 'Reduced Threat' message was issued last night...
ANy thoughts / feedback...???
Yep. I was on the IMT that made that decision. We identified due to increased fire activity overnight, and a chronic change in weather forecast received at 0300 that we were going to need more resources than had originally been planned for. Reduced Threat was replaced at 0530 with a WAM.
Why not some crews from R4 and the top of R2 organised at short notice for a say 6 hour shift to allow the crews from further afield to get there. I agree a 4 am wake up for a strike team 5 hours away is a bit tough
Quote from: Alex on January 09, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Moorok 34, Murray bridge 24P and port macdonnel 34 had all defaulted to K7 , relocated to, Dalkeith station, hence why the system reccomended them.
No operator error in this case.
no operator error indeed (which is a good thing), so now let's praise a system that can achieve this for which no operator, no matter how inept could achieve
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 09, 2012, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: FlameTrees on January 09, 2012, 08:19:17 AM
Quote from: straps on January 06, 2012, 06:16:08 AM
Quote1909066 04:50:27 06-01-12 CFSRES VICTOR: URGENT STRIKE TEAM REQUIRED FOR 8AM DEPARTURE TODAY FOR LOWER FLINDERS. RETURN MONDAY. PHONE GC ON 8552 3210 IF AVAILABLE. FROM GO. VH-Base 6/1/2
Quote1909066 04:14:27 06-01-12 CFSRES OPS SUPPORT: IMMEDIATE RESPONSE OF OPS SUPPORT BRIGADE TO VICTOR GROUP CENTRE TO ASSIST WITH ASSEMBLY OF STRIKE TEAM. FROM GO. 6/1/2012
I am curious as to whether 0430 recruitment for Strike teams and resources are really warranted given that this incident has been going for at least 3 - 4 days now..?? Whilst I fully appreciate that any fire can be dynamic and resource requirements can change rapidly, I would have thought that the resources required would be better understood (rather than a new, escalating fire) and that recruitment and acquisition of resources would occur in a more timely manner.
I am not being critical but rather making a constructive "outsiders" observation and asking whether this is the norm and / or appropriate for an incident that is 'not new' so to speak and that a 'Reduced Threat' message was issued last night...
ANy thoughts / feedback...???
Yep. I was on the IMT that made that decision. We identified due to increased fire activity overnight, and a chronic change in weather forecast received at 0300 that we were going to need more resources than had originally been planned for. Reduced Threat was replaced at 0530 with a WAM.
Why not some crews from R4 and the top of R2 organised at short notice for a say 6 hour shift to allow the crews from further afield to get there. I agree a 4 am wake up for a strike team 5 hours away is a bit tough
Regions 2 and 4 were already pretty heavily committed. At the end of the day, state decides which region gets the tap on the shoulder.
You people do realise you can say no and there is no strike team, pretty simple really.
Quote from: misterteddy on January 09, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 09, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Moorok 34, Murray bridge 24P and port macdonnel 34 had all defaulted to K7 , relocated to, Dalkeith station, hence why the system reccomended them.
No operator error in this case.
no operator error indeed (which is a good thing), so now let's praise a system that can achieve this for which no operator, no matter how inept could achieve
Insert Facebook style 'like'
I'm curious Alex (or the other AF guys reading this) how SACAD can still dispatch the likes of Ironbank instead of Iron Knob, Stirling instead of Stirling North etc, given it's location/map-based and computer/database recommended appliances? It was understandable it could happen occasionally with BOMS where an operator not paying enough attention could pick the wrong entry in a drop-down list but if the operator is now out of the equation, how does it still happen?
Those accidental dispatches have only occurred where additional appliances are being added to jobs and are human error due to confusion with call signs being given over radio (ie flinders group BWC calling themselves "stirling tanker") and operator error in comms with confusion over shortened callsigns.
Please keep in mind that shortening your appliance callsigns on radio is sometime more of a hindrance than a help.
Pretty sure the short name for Stirling North and Stirling is only 1 letter different, same with Iron Knob and Ironbank....
The human still had to put the data in to start with.
And it was the humans choice to have two Stirling's and a Iron Knob in existence :P
could be worse, there could be an iron baron brigade
12-01-12 19:48:02 WYB188 PR: 3 - IRON KNOB-WHYALLA RD NO SUBURB D0824 Disp: 19:47 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Whyalla
I have never seen a priority 3 job before?
18-01-12 21:47:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC0113 18/01/12 21:47 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 LINCOLN HWY NO SUBURB MAP:C/395 53,CALLER: ==20KM NORTH OF WHYALLA, POSSIBLY SINGLE VEHICLE ROLL OVER :IRKB14 WHY29 : - CFS Flinders Group Officers Response
18-01-12 21:46:51 WY181 PR: 2 - : 20 - 30 KM FROM PORT AUGUSTA TOWARD WHYALLA STUART HWY NO SUBURB D0877 Disp: 21:45 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Unit Whyalla
There is a big difference in Km's there
Quote1909111 09:54:36 20-01-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0032 20/01/12 09:52 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, COWELL RD/TUNGALI RD MOUNT CRAWFORD,MAP:C/179A 54,TG 096, ==DEBRIS REQUIRED TO BE CLEARD OFF RD FOR TOUR DOWN UNDER :SPRG34 :
CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
Surely the event should / would have its own 'clean up' crew..??? This should be done by an "Advance" or "Scout" car with a broom and shovel in the boot or maybe a petrol driven blower..???
If its in relation to this - http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/nails-found-near-mt-pleasant-an-hour-before-tdu-event/story-e6frea83-1226249261012 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/nails-found-near-mt-pleasant-an-hour-before-tdu-event/story-e6frea83-1226249261012) then maybe I stand somewhat corrected and could understand the need..!?!?!?
The pager message & the article are related
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on January 20, 2012, 03:37:58 PM
The pager message & the article are related
Pip
But still a completely unnecessary wayste of emergency service resources and time. That is NOT an emergency.
But until we start refusing to attend these bullshit things, we will keep on being responded.
i beg to differ, doesnt matter when its called in...bike event or not, if one of the tacks or nails went into a high pressure bike tyre it can pop, and if the rider is at speed around a corner, will most probally result in injury, ...injury prevention is than the cure
Everything else about the tour down under has had massive amounts of planning, and contingencies...... not sure why there wasn't a clean up crew too!!
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on January 20, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Everything else about the tour down under has had massive amounts of planning, and contingencies...... not sure why there wasn't a clean up crew too!!
Pip
Agreed Pip, if they can have a dedicated spotted plane keeping an eye on fire activity along the TDU route, and at one stage 2x rotary wing bombers and a spotter platform on active standby, a cleanup/chainsaw crew should have been a given.
This was not an emergency event............ more like worried event organizers mitigating embarrassment with Adelaide in the spotlight. AdelaideNow reported "have been no warnings announced over race radio". If this was the case, perhaps the TDU organisers were trying to keep it all hush hush............. that was never going to happen.
it's a world event, showcasing lots about the state. I reckon it was a valid call to do what was needed to keep it running smoothly and safely. Maybe in the future they will look at other needs as a result of what has happened, thats how the fire related resources happened to be produced remember but on the day....today, right call.
You could be forgiven for thinking that volunteers only want to be disturbed for the 4th alarm campaign fires, and not the other small "e" emergencies that the public has, when they dont know who to call. Maybe using a broom instead of a 64 is beneath some people
I thought the councils up in Adelaide had rapid response crews to deal with debris on roads such as yesterdays situation
Quote from: Fire000 on January 20, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: Pipster on January 20, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Everything else about the tour down under has had massive amounts of planning, and contingencies...... not sure why there wasn't a clean up crew too!!
Pip
Agreed Pip, if they can have a dedicated spotted plane keeping an eye on fire activity along the TDU route, and at one stage 2x rotary wing bombers and a spotter platform on active standby, a cleanup/chainsaw crew should have been a given.
This was not an emergency event............ more like worried event organizers mitigating embarrassment with Adelaide in the spotlight. AdelaideNow reported "have been no warnings announced over race radio". If this was the case, perhaps the TDU organisers were trying to keep it all hush hush............. that was never going to happen.
Most probably have a road sweeper on standby next year. But....
** this was during the community ride before the TDU started & affected cyclists
** what is the difference to community risk from this incident & your 'clean up' pagers for oil, grain spills & post Road Accident incidents ?
I agree with the money spent that should have risks covered. Last year they had SAAS, SES and CFS vehicles following the TDU cyclists during each stage. Not sure if they have the same this year.
They do this year as well, 2xQRV's following, but they might have still been at previous stage?
Quote from: Robert-Robert34 on January 21, 2012, 06:25:50 AM
I thought the councils up in Adelaide had rapid response crews to deal with debris on roads such as yesterdays situation
They do.
But this wasn't in Adelaide.
According to the media, TDU did arrange for a contract sweeper to go over the
road, and it arrived before the CFS crew/s had finished.
Given that a stage is 120-150 km or so, and this is a first time, it would seem
unreasonable for the TDU to have had one stationed every 20km or so needed to
achieve a reasonable response time.
I hope the CFS crew/s took pictures. Putting tacks out to puncture the tyres of
racing bikes, even if it was "just" the public being targetted, is only one
step short of setting man-traps in my view.
22-01-12 19:09:59 MFS: *CFSRES INC0085 22/01/12 19:09 RESPOND PRIVATE ALARM, : @WAIKERIE HIGH SCHOOL (WAIKERIE) 2 LAWRIE TCE WAIKERIE,MAP:SWK 1 G 6,TG 205, == SMOKE ALARM BUILDING 11 ROOM 3. KEY HOLDERS ON ROUTE :CDLLQRV WAIKPUMP : - CFS Waikerie Response
strange?
I've seen the local unit down here spend money like its going out of fashion before, and the 4 or so sets of RCR gear they have just lying around in storage doesnt come from donations.
It's all relative.
R4HQ CREWS REQUIRED FOR POTENTIAL 5 DAY DEPLOYMENT TO MOOMBA DEPARTING 25/01/12 ANYONE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT REGION 4 HQ ON PH 8642 2399 ASAP. 24/01/2012 7:02:09 PM - CFS Melrose Group Info
Gee after all the work those guys put in at Wilmington, it will be a hot 5 days!!
When ya gotta go ya gotta go! Good luck ladies n gents :)
**SACAD TEST**MFS: *CFSRES INC0042 26/01/12 11:37 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT ALARM LEVEL 1 8 ALISON CT TAPEROO MAP:ADL 79 M 6,TG 182, == 2 YR OLD CHILD HAS LOCKED HERSELF IN HOUSE, PARENTS OUTSIDE : : *****SACAD TEST ONLY***** -
Maybe this is a sign of things to come?
HALF A DOZEN CREW REQUIRED FOR CLEAN UP AT RENMARK FROM THE CAPTAIN. RING CAPTAIN FOR MORE INFORMATION - CFS Mallala Info
:?
so we'll have this instead?
**SACAD TEST**MFS: *CFSRES INC0042 26/01/12 11:37 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT ALARM LEVEL 1; ALARM LEVEL 2; ALARM LEVEL 3 8 ALISON CT TAPEROO MAP:ADL 79 M 6,TG 182, == 2 YR OLD CHILD HAS LOCKED HERSELF IN HOUSE, PARENTS OUTSIDE : : *****SACAD TEST ONLY*****
Least it makes the messages shorter
After consultation with comms and a few others it will only show the current alarm level.
Yay consultation with the frontline! Kicking points, not boundarys now!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0027 29/01/12 22:22 RESPOND FLOODING SALVAGE P1 ROGERS ST/FLINDERS TCE PORT AUGUSTA MAP:PUG 2 K 4,CALLER: ==FROM SAPOL THERE IS A STRONG SMELL OF DEISEL IN THE WATER :PAU20 O SNOTIFY N SNOTIF SDO :
Bit of a EPA issue there..
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 06/02/12 10:53 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, : @VALES AGED CARE FACILITY #043/094 60 STATES RD MORPHETT VALE,MAP:ADL 176 Q12,TG 134, ==INPUT DESC - FIP ALARM MAIN ENTRY :HPPY34P MRPH24 TC382
just out of interest would TC382 be a MFS training centre appliance or sacad acting up no brigade was acknowledged to having TC382
its a training vehicle, pretty sure it is at OHalloran station and there is one at salisbury station today also.
Would be the OTR crew covering for training courses, sometimes quicker to send a fully equipped truck than try and swap crew over. When a recruit course is on they can't use these though.
15-02-12 15:13:40 MFS: *CFSRES INC0047 15/02/12 14:55 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, WELLINGTON RD/VALE RD HIGHLAND VALLEY,MAP:C/122C 54,TG 142, :ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth ELZ331
15-02-12 15:13:38 MFS: *CFSRES INC0047 15/02/12 14:55 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, WELLINGTON RD/VALE RD HIGHLAND VALLEY,MAP:C/122C 54,TG 142, :ELZ331 : - MFS Angle Park Station
REEDY CREEK BRIGADE DELIVERY OF NEW 34 TRUCK TUESDAY. 21/02/2012 AT 1700 HRS PLS ATTEND TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE AND USE NEW TRUCKS. CAPTAIN - CFS Reedy Creek Response
New Fraser??? Any South East boys/ladies know?
Another wasted appliance
Why so??
5 responses in FY 10/11 I think might be the reason Pump mentioned it...I'm hoping that the use of the term " new" is relative and just means one they didnt have last week. If in fact it refers to a brand spanker..... then its time for a vote of no confidence in the people involved in the process
Quote from: misterteddy on February 16, 2012, 04:51:30 PM
5 responses in FY 10/11 I think might be the reason Pump mentioned it...I'm hoping that the use of the term " new" is relative and just means one they didnt have last week. If in fact it refers to a brand spanker..... then its time for a vote of no confidence in the people involved in the process
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Good luck with that..
No it's a brand Spanker, seen it, and the department concerned has been getting away with it for 20 years do you really think anyone will step up and fix it?
Fair enough, good luck to the brigade!
Yeah, good luck to them, certainly got nothing to do with good planning.
Is it a fraser??
still a heap of SEM's to go out so doubt it
Believe it is a Fraser
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on February 16, 2012, 06:59:35 PM
Believe it is a Fraser
Pip
What an appalling decision, no offence to the Brigade concerned, but to be honest with 5 calls (which included a stop call) you hardly justify the cost of a Brigade....let alone an appliance. Buy 5 farm fire trailers, give them to the local community and let them do their own thing while they wait for the next nearest appliance.
Righto Arthur......I know you read the forums because you have complained to me about them before.....care to come on and try and explain this one away?? Now's your chance
If not then Sandy, Chief, D/Chief??? - you are all reading this....anyone??? Bueller... Bueller ... Bueller???
Brace yourself mr t there's some more new trucks set for 10 calls a year brigades!!
reedy creek, tilley swamp, the vehicle replacement program is a shambles, there are brigades out there getting their 2nd 34P, yet there are brigades like mine still trying to fit our rcr gear on our 24P and continually trying to add extra space for it, we train weekly with 20-30 members, never fail to get out the door in a timely manner, and yet we keep getting looked over when all brigades as busy or even a little quieter had theirs replaced ages ago..
We keep getting told of the risk we cover but we are asked to cover it in an appliance that is literally falling to bits, the plumbing needs to be fixed up, it need a refurb basically and once again CFS dont want to know about it
Cmon CFS lift your game, Your an absolute joke at the moment.
Maybe in your case al the squeaky wheel is not getting oiled...
If its falling apart get it fixed, in fact get every single minor default fixed....you watch how quickly it gets replaced!
Is it possible to put a vote of no confidence in against the CFS as a whole?
Al's Brigade is a perfect example of the shambles that is I & L
Maybe Al, time to "play the game", less work for free in members own time cobbling together backyard repairs for the truck, more time with it offline awaiting repairs - paid for by CFS. Also, might be time to get it weighed, I reckon your model 24P with all the P gear plus RCR would be extremely close to the limits....again, if it's over - truck is offline.
Pump....I think that actually came close at a conference a little while ago but was averted by some fancy negotiating, and promises some things would change. I alluded to it in a different post. I also believe moves are afoot to ramp up the dissent.
Well they can't get much worse, so far it's been lip service
So do we expect something official from your brigades/group on this topic ?
MFS: *CFSRES INC0076 17/02/12 17:14 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE INC LPG, HEASLIP RD EDINBURGH,MAP:ADL 50 F11,TG 102, == SMOKE AND FLAME ISSUING IN CAB. JUST NORTH OF RAILWAY :ELZ331 ELZ339 R2 KUIPER VIRG19 VIRG24 : -
MEMBERS, PLEASE NOTE, MFS DID NOT ATTEND THIS CAR FIRE, THEY PUT A STOP ON THEMSELVES. DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE PAGER.IF AVAILABLE RESPOND TO STN
Dont know about anyone else but this just screams to me "oh look MFS are responding into our area so i wont bother responding"
seems like somone needs to grow a little
"there are brigades out there getting their 2nd 34P"
Which brigades are these?
From what i have been told, a brigade in Strathalbyn group, and one in East Torrens groupto replace 2000 era 24P's in those brigades
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on February 17, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
From what i have been told, a brigade in Strathalbyn group, and one in East Torrens groupto replace 2000 era 24P's in those brigades
The strath group would be strath24p. Others due for replacement would be Clayton and Black fellows but they would be rural 2/3-4s
Quote
Posted on: Today at 05:30:19 PMPosted by: Alan (Big Al)
MFS: *CFSRES INC0076 17/02/12 17:14 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE INC LPG, HEASLIP RD EDINBURGH,MAP:ADL 50 F11,TG 102, == SMOKE AND FLAME ISSUING IN CAB. JUST NORTH OF RAILWAY :ELZ331 ELZ339 R2 KUIPER VIRG19 VIRG24 : -
MEMBERS, PLEASE NOTE, MFS DID NOT ATTEND THIS CAR FIRE, THEY PUT A STOP ON THEMSELVES. DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE PAGER.IF AVAILABLE RESPOND TO STN
Dont know about anyone else but this just screams to me "oh look MFS are responding into our area so i wont bother responding"
seems like somone needs to grow a little
Sounds to me like a case of ...
That is so far out of our area (MFS) it's ridiculous.
Huh, it's right on the boundary, Virginia are just having a cry....mongs
Quote from: vsteve01 on February 17, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on February 17, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
From what i have been told, a brigade in Strathalbyn group, and one in East Torrens groupto replace 2000 era 24P's in those brigades
The strath group would be strath24p. Others due for replacement would be Clayton and Black fellows but they would be rural 2/3-4s
Yup Strath and Athelstone 24P's going. Would like to hear a good justification from Region as to why ours appears to not be on any replacement list for the forseeable future.
Quote from: pumprescue on February 17, 2012, 08:19:11 PM
Huh, it's right on the boundary, Virginia are just having a cry....mongs
Well i suppose if they (MFS) are claiming the RAAF base fence as their boundary it would be but no.
Quote from: flyonthewall on February 17, 2012, 07:45:28 PM
Quote
Posted on: Today at 05:30:19 PMPosted by: Alan (Big Al)
MFS: *CFSRES INC0076 17/02/12 17:14 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE INC LPG, HEASLIP RD EDINBURGH,MAP:ADL 50 F11,TG 102, == SMOKE AND FLAME ISSUING IN CAB. JUST NORTH OF RAILWAY :ELZ331 ELZ339 R2 KUIPER VIRG19 VIRG24 : -
MEMBERS, PLEASE NOTE, MFS DID NOT ATTEND THIS CAR FIRE, THEY PUT A STOP ON THEMSELVES. DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE PAGER.IF AVAILABLE RESPOND TO STN
Dont know about anyone else but this just screams to me "oh look MFS are responding into our area so i wont bother responding"
seems like somone needs to grow a little
Sounds to me like a case of ...
That is so far out of our area (MFS) it's ridiculous.
Actually, I read it as a case of the originator of the page having a go at those in his Brigade for not responding because the page had the MFS on it. He informed them that the MFS did not in fact attend and could they please respond in the future regardless of who is on the page.
What was it one of u guys said about all the bagging/point-scoring etc that is aimed at neighboring Brigades being the crux of all that is wrong with the CFS??..... :lol:
Quote from: safireservice on February 17, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: pumprescue on February 17, 2012, 08:19:11 PM
Huh, it's right on the boundary, Virginia are just having a cry....mongs
Well i suppose if they (MFS) are claiming the RAAF base fence as their boundary it would be but no.
Still don't see your point, it's not well out of MFS area?
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on February 16, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
reedy creek, tilley swamp, the vehicle replacement program is a shambles, there are brigades out there getting their 2nd 34P, yet there are brigades like mine still trying to fit our rcr gear on our 24P and continually trying to add extra space for it, we train weekly with 20-30 members, never fail to get out the door in a timely manner, and yet we keep getting looked over when all brigades as busy or even a little quieter had theirs replaced ages ago..
We keep getting told of the risk we cover but we are asked to cover it in an appliance that is literally falling to bits, the plumbing needs to be fixed up, it need a refurb basically and once again CFS dont want to know about it
Cmon CFS lift your game, Your an absolute joke at the moment.
Attention all, get some balls and slap a Hazard Notice on it if it's that bad :evil:
They can't sack you for it, and it will only come to the fore if an accident happens as a result, too many things swept under the carpet :-D
29-02-12 20:48:19 CFS Members Instruction: No CFS members are to place information relating to incidents on Facebook or social sites. Chaffey GO - CFS Chaffey Group Info
Needs be a statewide thing I reckon!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 29, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
29-02-12 20:48:19 CFS Members Instruction: No CFS members are to place information relating to incidents on Facebook or social sites. Chaffey GO - CFS Chaffey Group Info
Needs be a statewide thing I reckon!
Depends what it is I think. Have some respect and use your brain and you'll be right
After every job I always put on FB "Well done to the CFS crews today" or something similar. I think it's impotant people know we are out and about...after all they can see much more than that on the CFS FB page, the CFS website or the paging site. It's not appropriate to put up specific details tho. As mentioned, use you brain and you'll be right. We have a simple Brigade Rule regarding this stuff which seems to work fine. The draft media policy has everyone scared they won't be able to vent on social media sites instead of actually going thru proper channels :wink:
Maybe we could condense COSO's to "CFS Volunteers will be seen but not heard, and where possible, not being seen is preferable".
23-03-12 14:07:11 ALL T.L'S NOT ON THE B.A COURSE PLEASE PAGE IN WITH AVAILABILITY OVER THIS WEEKEND. THANKS - SES Sturt Response
Is this an OBAOC course?
Anyone know why SES are doing it?
Confined space rescue
Quote from: pumprescue on March 23, 2012, 01:37:41 PM
Confined space rescue
ohhh yea i see... Is the course the same as would be delivered to SACFS or does it change to meet their specific requirements?
The CFS course is only a wearers course, no firefighting, so can't see it being much different.
20:35:37 22-03-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0070 22/03/12 20:35 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, : @TREVU NURSING HOME #035/028 1 DELAND AV GAWLER EAST,MAP:ADL 24 A11,TG 182, ==INPUT DESC - FIP ALARM MAIN ENTRY :ELZ339 GAW359 SAL329 : - MFS Gawler 359
Rescue much! :-P
CFS:*CFSRES: BOMBERS 582, 585 BIRDDOG 500, ATKINS & AOB MCRAE RESPOND GRASSFIRE, DEEPCREEK, 217 DEGREES, 92 KMS FROM WAB 29/03/2012 8:34:37 AM???
DENR have done it again! I guess prescribed burn got away???
But yet 3 minutes after this Southern Flerieau put out a message saying the Deep Creek burn had been cancelled.
Maybe because they are chasing yesterday's burn????
Used for foam and gel drops to strengthen/establish control lines.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on March 29, 2012, 03:43:30 PM
Used for foam and gel drops to strengthen/establish control lines.
CFS:AIR OPS INFO: ALL AIRCRAFT RETURNING FROM THE DEEP CREEK BURNOFF, 26 FOAM DROPS AND 20 GEL DROPS, INC NO: 954735 29/03/2012 4:01:25 PM - CFS R1 HQ Response
This one was expected due to some cowboy tactics by up top. Bottom corner of deep creek 100ha ignited with the chopper. There's control lines in further back but rakehoes and test drops with a new gel cfs are trialling are doing the trick. Should be out tomorrow.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0022 29/03/12 08:51 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, TAPPANAPPA RD PARAWA,MAP:C/80C 54,TG 144, ==BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL IN DEEP CREEK CONSERVATION PARK == assist crews at second valley air strip, from sflgc1 :RAPD34 : - CFS Rapid Bay Response
Another DEH over achievement :-P
Time to shut them down surely.
Before they do the inevitable and burn out a few houses or kill someone.
Quote from: Alex on March 31, 2012, 04:15:09 PM
Time to shut them down surely.
Before they do the inevitable and burn out a few houses or kill someone.
I wouldn't go that far. How many have actually gotten out of parks in recent years? Using bombers isnt a sign of failure, it's a resource that's available, especially for working on terrain like the one named above. The problem lies with the government requiring a increasing percentage of the state burnt each season, with limited funding for feet on the ground. Just like any multinational business trying to increase profit while decreasing costs. I definitely agree there are issues but I'd struggle to find one government related agency that doesnt have issues.
Like most managers they are too scared to say no.
Could be worse, could be the CFS doing these burns....
Quote from: bizfro on April 01, 2012, 08:14:27 AM
How many have actually gotten out of parks in recent years?
I would suggest a better measure of the impact is the number of crew hours taken to fix those that have. Counting the Eyre Peninsula over the last couple of seasons the figure would be in the 10s of 1000s
No-one does controlled burns terribly well, DENR (or whatever they are today) just do their bit to maintain that result....admirably
yeah but if we're not careful we'll make DEH too scared to do any burns then SA will end up like states like Victoria. I do think DEH seem to be relying far too much on aircraft though.
Quote from: Darius on April 02, 2012, 07:03:10 AM
yeah but if we're not careful we'll make DEH too scared to do any burns then SA will end up like states like Victoria. I do think DEH seem to be relying far too much on aircraft though.
CFS:*CFSRES: BOMBERS 582/585, BD500 AND WOODSIDE FUEL TANKER RESPOND GRASS FIRE, DEEP CREEK, 217 DEGREES, 92 KMS FROM WAB 2/04/2012 1:45:58 PM - CFS R1 HQ Response
It has taken off!
Quote from: SA Firey on April 02, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
CFS:*CFSRES: BOMBERS 582/585, BD500 AND WOODSIDE FUEL TANKER RESPOND GRASS FIRE, DEEP CREEK, 217 DEGREES, 92 KMS FROM WAB 2/04/2012 1:45:58 PM - CFS R1 HQ Response
It has taken off!
... That's kind of what aircraft do...
Quote from: SA Firey on April 02, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Darius on April 02, 2012, 07:03:10 AM
yeah but if we're not careful we'll make DEH too scared to do any burns then SA will end up like states like Victoria. I do think DEH seem to be relying far too much on aircraft though.
CFS:*CFSRES: BOMBERS 582/585, BD500 AND WOODSIDE FUEL TANKER RESPOND GRASS FIRE, DEEP CREEK, 217 DEGREES, 92 KMS FROM WAB 2/04/2012 1:45:58 PM - CFS R1 HQ Response
It has taken off!
Very easy to jump to wrong conclusions from a pager messages. Aircraft can be used for a variety of reasons, many of which are strategic and not in a "CFS bailing them out" mentality- i.e. to support ground crews or strength control lines during a prescribed burning. Sometimes it's also safer to use aircraft to lay down a wet control line, than to put crews in there.
Is it better they burn out these area now or should we have a wildfire rip through on a bad day sometime down the track.
Aircraft are a state resource, they may as well put them to use than have them collecting dust at Woodside - it helps CFS justify keeping them all (Wingfield was good example of this), gives the pilots and ground crew invaluable training and helps make prescribed burning safer by jumping on any areas of concern during a prescribed burn straight away.
Quote from: Fire000 on April 02, 2012, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: SA Firey on April 02, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Darius on April 02, 2012, 07:03:10 AM
yeah but if we're not careful we'll make DEH too scared to do any burns then SA will end up like states like Victoria. I do think DEH seem to be relying far too much on aircraft though.
CFS:*CFSRES: BOMBERS 582/585, BD500 AND WOODSIDE FUEL TANKER RESPOND GRASS FIRE, DEEP CREEK, 217 DEGREES, 92 KMS FROM WAB 2/04/2012 1:45:58 PM - CFS R1 HQ Response
It has taken off!
Very easy to jump to wrong conclusions from a pager messages. Aircraft can be used for a variety of reasons, many of which are strategic and not in a "CFS bailing them out" mentality- i.e. to support ground crews or strength control lines during a prescribed burning. Sometimes it's also safer to use aircraft to lay down a wet control line, than to put crews in there.
Is it better they burn out these area now or should we have a wildfire rip through on a bad day sometime down the track.
Aircraft are a state resource, they may as well put them to use than have them collecting dust at Woodside - it helps CFS justify keeping them all (Wingfield was good example of this), gives the pilots and ground crew invaluable training and helps make prescribed burning safer by jumping on any areas of concern during a prescribed burn straight away.
And DEH pay for them when they use them, so no cost to CFS
03-04-12 09:01:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC0016 03/04/12 08:54 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, : @SPENCER INSTITUTE OF TAFE #051/033 39-39 CARLTON PDE PORT AUGUSTA,MAP:PUG 2 F 9,TG 62, ==INPUT DESC - FIP MAIN ENTRANCE FOYER :SFLG BWC : - CFS Sthrn Fleurieu Gp Officer Response
03-04-12 09:03:18 MFS: *CFSRES INC0022 02/04/12 16:10 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, TAPPANAPPA RD PARAWA,MAP:C/80C 54,TG 144, ==BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL IN DEEP CREEK CONSERVATION PARK == assist crews at second valley air strip, from sflgc1 :SFLG BWC : - CFS Sthrn Fleurieu Gp Officer Response
got the right one now
But there is a cost to the CFS, as the volunteers are expected to run the airstrips, taking up there time, think thats a bit rich expecting that.
I reckon the pilots flying the air tractors would have plenty of experience anyway not including the days of continuous bombing at Wilmington and wilpena!
I agree use them but calling on the volunteers to man the strip to fill them maybe it's starting to abuse the volunteer...maybe DENR should have trained personnel to perform these duties when they are using the aircraft in a support role!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on April 03, 2012, 11:13:51 AM
I reckon the pilots flying the air tractors would have plenty of experience anyway not including the days of continuous bombing at Wilmington and wilpena!
I agree use them but calling on the volunteers to man the strip to fill them maybe it's starting to abuse the volunteer...maybe DENR should have trained personnel to perform these duties when they are using the aircraft in a support role!
Agree, perhaps training some airbase support crew is something DEH need to look into.
Or offer the CFS vollys some coin to make up for the loss of work etc...to much is taken for granted.
06-04-12 18:23:11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 06/04/12 18:22 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 407 LYRUP MAIN RD LYRUP MAP:C/215 54,CALLER: :BRI29 LYRP34 : - SES Berri
06-04-12 18:27:31 MFS: INC139 STOP FOR CALL. SES NOT REQUIRED - SES Berri
06-04-12 18:37:59 MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 06/04/12 18:22 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE P1 407 LYRUP MAIN RD LYRUP MAP:C/215 54,CALLER: ==BERRI SES RE-ATTEND. THERE IS SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHERE STOP HAS COME FROM ==FROM :BRI29 LYRP34 : - SES Berri
06-04-12 18:40:46 MFS: FROM CFS GROUP OFFICER AT INCIDENT - STOP FOR BERRI SES, NOT REQUIRED - SES Berri
But, as if that ^^^ wasn't bad enough...
07-04-12 01:40:00 MFS: *CFSRES INC0139 07/04/12 01:37 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, 407 LYRUP MAIN RD LYRUP,MAP:C/215 54,TG 203, ==BERRI SES RE-ATTEND. THERE IS SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHERE STOP HAS COME FROM ==FROM == IGNORE RESPONSE RE-OPENING JOB 139 ONLY :LYRP34 MNSH34P : - CFS Lyrup Response
07-04-12 01:46:46 MFS: STOP MSG FOR INC139 - PER GROUP OFFICER - CFS Lyrup Response
Speaking of confusion.....
Did they really have to wake up 2 CFS brigades to re-open the job???
MFS: *CFSRES INC0038 08/04/12 11:23 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, : @TUNKALILLA BEACH (),MAP:C/80C 54,TG 182, == PER STH FLURO GRP OFFICER GRASS FIRE WESTERN END OF TUN. BCH. :AIRDESK LGS281 PRWA24 : - MFS Largs North LGS281
Nice day for a drive or a boat cruise :-o
08-04-12 12:35:01 MFS: *CFSRES INC0046 08/04/12 12:15 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, SOUTHERN PORTS HWY BEACHPORT,MAP:C/14 54,TG 231, ==3KMS OUT OF BEACHPORT TOWARDS MILICENT REQUIRED FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL :STBN34P H : - CFS Strathalbyn Response
Looks like they're having a good day in the comcen... Lol
Getting a bit too common attaching an appliance to the wrong job.
But it's not SACADS fault,couldn't be :-P
The Largs bit is a CAD fault, the rest is just useless operators.
Can anyone shed any light on what this is???
17-04-12 13:44:19 MENG: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS ANY MEMBER TO GIVE INFO REGARDING INCIDENT ON 22/11/2010 AT MENINGIE WEST. IF YOU NEED CLARIFICATION CONTACT CAPTAIN 0408087695. - CFS Meningie Info
Quote from: adizz131 on April 17, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Can anyone shed any light on what this is???
17-04-12 13:44:19 MENG: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS ANY MEMBER TO GIVE INFO REGARDING INCIDENT ON 22/11/2010 AT MENINGIE WEST. IF YOU NEED CLARIFICATION CONTACT CAPTAIN 0408087695. - CFS Meningie Info
Sorry but are you really serious????
You want to discuss on a public forum what the local members have just been asked not to discuss????
If you're that interested, give Adam a call on the number and ask him!!!!!
i dont get why the message is about an inc 18 months ago, some one must have opened theier mouth too much.
Quote from: Shiner on April 17, 2012, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on April 17, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Can anyone shed any light on what this is???
17-04-12 13:44:19 MENG: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS ANY MEMBER TO GIVE INFO REGARDING INCIDENT ON 22/11/2010 AT MENINGIE WEST. IF YOU NEED CLARIFICATION CONTACT CAPTAIN 0408087695. - CFS Meningie Info
Sorry but are you really serious????
You want to discuss on a public forum what the local members have just been asked not to discuss????
If you're that interested, give Adam a call on the number and ask him!!!!!
Other people that are not members may know what it is.
Quote from: adizz131 on April 17, 2012, 05:39:15 PM
Quote from: Shiner on April 17, 2012, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on April 17, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Can anyone shed any light on what this is???
17-04-12 13:44:19 MENG: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS ANY MEMBER TO GIVE INFO REGARDING INCIDENT ON 22/11/2010 AT MENINGIE WEST. IF YOU NEED CLARIFICATION CONTACT CAPTAIN 0408087695. - CFS Meningie Info
Sorry but are you really serious????
You want to discuss on a public forum what the local members have just been asked not to discuss????
If you're that interested, give Adam a call on the number and ask him!!!!!
Other people that are not members may know what it is.
$70,000 hay fire on Narrung Road.
18-04-12 13:59:56 BAL 14 WILL BE AT GUMERACHA FOR NEXT FEW HOURS, PUMP TESTING. LT1 - CFS Oakbank/Balhannah Info
Can anyone shed any light on this???
Quote from: JJD on April 18, 2012, 03:09:32 PM
18-04-12 13:59:56 BAL 14 WILL BE AT GUMERACHA FOR NEXT FEW HOURS, PUMP TESTING. LT1 - CFS Oakbank/Balhannah Info
Can anyone shed any light on this???
A 4 WD appliance that hold approx 1000 litres of water, that is housed at the Balhannah station was going to the township or locality of Gumeracha for a period of time of more than 1 hour but less than 24, for the purposes of testing the pump on the sid appliance. This message was sent by the Lieutenant 1 of the brigade.
Hope that helps :-D
Lol i deserved that! :lol:
What i'm asking is why said appliance needed to be taken to gumeracha for testing of a pump. There is no mechanic or testing facilities, etc. in gumeracha, so why there? Its a 25km drive well outside of the brigades area, let alone group. There is an identical appliance in gum station so if it wasnt the pump on the appliance itself that needed testing but something requiring a pump, i.e. some sort of installation, then why use an appliance from so far away????
Quote from: JJD on April 19, 2012, 10:00:41 AM
Lol i deserved that! :lol:
What i'm asking is why said appliance needed to be taken to gumeracha for testing of a pump. There is no mechanic or testing facilities, etc. in gumeracha, so why there? Its a 25km drive well outside of the brigades area, let alone group. There is an identical appliance in gum station so if it wasnt the pump on the appliance itself that needed testing but something requiring a pump, i.e. some sort of installation, then why use an appliance from so far away????
Oh, well, I cant answer THAT!
02-05-12 12:45:22 Repage:PLS CALL BOB RE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH STIRLING PUMPER FROM BOB. xxxxxxxxxxx - SAAS Road Crash Research :-o
There is some long inbetween time with these jobs?
03-05-12 02:30:41 MFS: *CFSRES: INC0004 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, MALLALA RD KORUNYE. SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER NEAR TRAIN LINE. MALL34 DUBL34P - CFS Light Group Officers Response
03-05-12 02:26:54 MA181 PR: 2 - MALLALA RD KORUNYE D0046 Disp: 02:26 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Mallala
then
03-05-12 04:44:11 SA182 PR: 2 - : RS52 MALLALA RD KORUNYE D0080 Disp: 04:21 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Salisbury
03-05-12 04:44:09 MA181 PR: 2 - : RS52 MALLALA RD KORUNYE D0076 Disp: 04:16 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Mallala
03-05-12 05:09:41 MA181 PR: 2 - : RS52 MALLALA RD KORUNYE D0076 Disp: 04:16 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Mallala
03-05-12 05:09:50 SA182 PR: 2 - : RS52 MALLALA RD KORUNYE D0080 Disp: 04:21 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Salisbury
i dont get it?
Quote from: fire8029 on May 03, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
There is some long inbetween time with these jobs?
i dont get it?
Possibly a paging delay due to the outage?
Quote from: CFS_Firey on May 03, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: fire8029 on May 03, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
There is some long inbetween time with these jobs?
i dont get it?
Possibly a paging delay due to the outage?
Oh yeah, did forget about that
15:45:03 03-05-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 03/05/12 15:44 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, THIELE HWY/ROSEWORTHY RD KINGSFORD,MAP:C/178C 54,TG 100, ==2 CAR MVA NO ENTRAP MAJOR INJ THOUGH :NTPAPUMP R SHLG34 : - CFS Nuriootpa Response
15:45:02 03-05-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 03/05/12 15:44 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, THIELE HWY/ROSEWORTHY RD KINGSFORD,MAP:C/178C 54,TG 100, ==2 CAR MVA NO ENTRAP MAJOR INJ THOUGH :NTPAPUMP R SHLG34 : - CFS Sheaoak Log Response
15:45:02 03-05-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 03/05/12 15:44 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, THIELE HWY/ROSEWORTHY RD KINGSFORD,MAP:C/178C 54,TG 100, ==2 CAR MVA NO ENTRAP MAJOR INJ THOUGH :NTPAPUMP R SHLG34 : - CFS Angaston Group Officers Response
15:44:59 03-05-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 03/05/12 15:44 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, THIELE HWY/ROSEWORTHY RD KINGSFORD,MAP:C/178C 54,TG 100, ==2 CAR MVA NO ENTRAP MAJOR INJ THOUGH :NTPAPUMP R SHLG34 : - CFS Light Group Officers Response
No Roseworthy response. Isn't Kingsford Roseworthys area? I didn't see them paged to anything else...
Offline perhaps. Either that or just not in there zone.
07-05-12 18:16:21 7/05/2012 6:15:42 PM EE.Group Joe Tilley DENR wil be doing a burn in SE corner of Hinks tommorrow, do not be alarmed by the smoke. EE GO - CFS Eastern Eyre Group Info
Interesting as I just read the media release urging people to postpone any burn offs planned for tomorrow :roll:
MFS: *CFSRES INC0070 08/05/12 09:02 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, :NEAR BOELHMER TRACK BLOCK 9 RD WIRRABARA,MAP:C/365 54,TG 71, ==PRESCRIBED BURN BROKEN CONTAINMENT LINES. MAP BOOK 365 GR 360-398. GRN TG 047 :FLNG BWC : - CFS Stirling North Response
09-05-12 11:29:08 CORO INFO: SPEED CAMERA OUTSIDE BUTCHER. SNR3 - CFS Coromandel Valley Info
im sure the members would not be speeding to the station anyway :evil:
Quote from: SA Firey on May 08, 2012, 11:35:53 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0070 08/05/12 09:02 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, :NEAR BOELHMER TRACK BLOCK 9 RD WIRRABARA,MAP:C/365 54,TG 71, ==PRESCRIBED BURN BROKEN CONTAINMENT LINES. MAP BOOK 365 GR 360-398. GRN TG 047 :FLNG BWC : - CFS Stirling North Response
I see they are begging for strike teams of vols to come and sort the mess out, yet they are going ahead with other large burns such as mt bold etc, this is getting beyond a joke now, should pay each vol and hourly rate for this, what a joke.
Oh what a surprise all the strike teams are starting to get cancelled due to lack of interest WELL DER!!
HAPPY VALLEY *INFO* 34P HAS NEW ISOLATOR 24V/240V PLUG TURN OFF POWER POINT TO ORANGE LEAD FIRST THEN REMOVE PLUG FROM 34P SOCKET WILL HAVE 240V LIVE PINS IF NOT TURNED OFF FIRST...CAPT - H/V STATION
Sounds pretty safe..
As if that is allowed !
Risk Assessment anyone????
CFS:HV INFO: FURTHER TO EARLIER MESSAGE. THE 24OV SUPPLY TO 34P HAS BEEN REMOVED TILL A SAFER ALTERNATIVE CAN BE FITTED. TURN OFF CHARGER AND REMOVE AS PREVIOUSLY DONE - LT1 15/05/2012 7:17:49 PM
lol
further to the above how many brigades out there run an active power supply to truck batteries for recharging at their stations???
We used to but found the batteries failed often after 2 years and we had more problems than not. For the last 6 or 7 years we have moved away from the rechargers and just simply isolate the truck, since doing this we have had far less isssues with batteries and the trucks not starting.
we use ctek 24V chargers which are connected when the trucks are in the station. Have heard rumours there can be problems with calcium batteries fitted in new trucks but fortunately/unfortunately we don't have a problem with that due to not having a new truck. The trucks are always kept isolated but we still used to occasionally find a flat battery and have to roll start a truck (mainly our 14) which is why we fitted the chargers to the station about 2-3 years ago, have not had a problem since.
18-05-12 12:39:26 GREENHILL 34 OFFLINE FOR DRIVER TRAINING FROM 13:00 TO 17:00 FROM LT2 - CFS Greenhill Info
There's alot of driver training goes on there.
They would be taking advantage of some funding left in the pot for licence upgrades, before June 30 (at least, hope the funding is still in the pot!)
Pip
Again!!!!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 19/05/12 09:46 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA, LINCLON HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 68, ==approx 45km out of Pt Aug towards Whya. Western side of road. :IRKBQRV STLN24P H STRLPUMP R : - CFS Stirling Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 19/05/12 09:46 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA, LINCLON HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 68, ==approx 45km out of Pt Aug towards Whya. Western side of road. :IRKBQRV STLN24P H STRLPUMP R : - CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
Quote from: tft on May 19, 2012, 11:39:20 AM
Again!!!!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 19/05/12 09:46 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA, LINCLON HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 68, ==approx 45km out of Pt Aug towards Whya. Western side of road. :IRKBQRV STLN24P H STRLPUMP R : - CFS Stirling Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 19/05/12 09:46 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA, LINCLON HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 68, ==approx 45km out of Pt Aug towards Whya. Western side of road. :IRKBQRV STLN24P H STRLPUMP R : - CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
again what?
Quote from: fire8029 on May 19, 2012, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: tft on May 19, 2012, 11:39:20 AM
Again!!!!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 19/05/12 09:46 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA, LINCLON HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 68, ==approx 45km out of Pt Aug towards Whya. Western side of road. :IRKBQRV STLN24P H STRLPUMP R : - CFS Stirling Response
MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 19/05/12 09:46 RESPOND SMOKE IN AREA, LINCLON HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 68, ==approx 45km out of Pt Aug towards Whya. Western side of road. :IRKBQRV STLN24P H STRLPUMP R : - CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
again what?
Stirling to Port Augusta - 349 km, 4 hours 8 mins (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Stirling,+South+Australia,+Australia&daddr=LINCOlN+HWY,+port+augusta,+south+australia&hl=en&sll=-32.631819,137.550923&sspn=0.058188,0.077162&geocode=FUPa6f0daalECCkZlu_TJjO3ajGgwY5iVDYDBQ%3BFfUTDv4dS9wyCCmRsxqZV4SlajGJiEPiu4_Ygg&oq=StirSA,+Australia&t=v&mra=ls&z=6)
Time for Port Augusta CFS to exist :P
Oh yeah, I didn't read it properly.
20-05-12 07:36:06 MFS: *CFSRES INC0013 20/05/12 07:33 RESPOND RESCUE ANIMAL, 182 ANGEL GULLY RD CLARENDON,MAP:ADL 178 N16,TG 134, == COW DOWN IN PADDOCK AFTER CALVING. :HPPYPUMP : - CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
Ya gotta be kidding!!
Plus SES were dual responded to the "animal rescue"
MFS: *CFSRES INC0065 20/05/12 18:27 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT, 6 CARMELA AV MORPHETT VALE,MAP:ADL 187 A 5,TG 182, == ASSIST RESIDENT IN WHEEL CHAIR WITH PERMAPINE POST REMOVAL :CDN431 : - MFS Christie Downs CDN431
Animal rescues are dual response, SES management requested it....
Quote from: G D on May 09, 2012, 11:45:42 AM
09-05-12 11:29:08 CORO INFO: SPEED CAMERA OUTSIDE BUTCHER. SNR3 - CFS Coromandel Valley Info
im sure the members would not be speeding to the station anyway :evil:
Looks like someone had a talking to...
CRML INFO: PLEASE BE AWARE PAGING VIA GRN NETWORK IS FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY. PLEASE DO NOT USE FOR ANY OTHER REASON INCLUDING RADAR LOCATIONS. CORO CAPTAIN. - CFS Coromandel Valley Info
Not sure if this is the right place to put my post. I was interested in knowing why some cars are on one pager feed but not on others. Like a RTL like OS11 will come up on the Saas road crash feed but when it gets responded to a chest pain case wont comes up. Is this a fault, and is there anyone who fixes this? Pretty minor I know, just interested?
Cheers
I understand they have been asked to not include it in the filter by SAAS
11-06-12 12:35:37 UNDER GROUP ORDER, DOOR CODE HAS BEEN CHANGED TO *****. FROM COW CAPTAIN - CFS Cowell Info
Eeeeerrr :roll:
someone wants a new station?
03-07-12 14:41:40 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 03/07/12 14:00 RESPOND STRUCTURAL COMMERCIAL, : @ CAMDEN PARK FIRE STATION, 65/67 MORPHET RD CANDEN PARK, MAP: ADL 128 P 14, TG 197, ==SMOKE COMING FROM WINDOWS: CPK411 STM401 STM409 CAR41 - MFS Camden Park CPK411
23-07-12 20:43:16 BDBY INFO: Mylor14 is now in our station for next 6-8 weeks. Mylor brigade is offline, expect more responses to Mylor area. More detail at AGM next monday. Dave - CFS Bradbury Info
Anyone know why they are offline?
Station rebuild?
Are they getting some work done?
Surely something could be arranged so a brigade doesnt go offline for a station rebuild or works?? Maybe its something else?
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on July 23, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
Are they getting some work done?
yes a fairly major brigade-funded station extension
MFS: *CFSRES INC0088 28/07/12 20:37 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, 150 PRINCES HWY TAILEM BEND,MAP:STB 1 B 5,TG 206, == APPROXIMATE ADDRESS, UNKNOWN FIRE :AIRDESK TLEM14 : - CFS Tailem Bend Response
Does Tailem Bend actually have a 14?
No.
They were supposed to get one - date all determined, and for whatever reason, it was not delivered, and I believe reallocated to another brigade.
Pip
Someone's not happy:
MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 29/07/12 10:55 RESPOND FLOODING SALVAGE P2 44 NEWELL AV MIDDLETON MAP:ADL 306 P11,CALLER:RALPH FLEMING 85555357 == WATER ENTERING THROUGH REAR FENCE THREATENING TO ENTER SEPTIC SYSTEM. :SNOTIFY E STH20 A : - SES South Coast Response
then
11:18:57 MORE CREW REQUIRED - SES South Coast Response
and then
11:33:35 SOUTH COAST MEMBERS, DON'T BOTHER. CLOSING DOWN. FROM COMMS. - SES South Coast Response
Quote from: Pipster on July 29, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
No.
They were supposed to get one - date all determined, and for whatever reason, it was not delivered, and I believe reallocated to another brigade.
Pip
Ok surprised its deemed available in SACAD if they didnt get it.
Quote from: safireservice on July 29, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Pipster on July 29, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
No.
They were supposed to get one - date all determined, and for whatever reason, it was not delivered, and I believe reallocated to another brigade.
Pip
Ok surprised its deemed available in SACAD if they didnt get it.
Soo if it made it as far as being entered in to CAD and than at last minute was not delivered it must have been a drastic change in appliance allocation for this to happen??
OR someone broke something pretty good
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on July 29, 2012, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: safireservice on July 29, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Pipster on July 29, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
No.
They were supposed to get one - date all determined, and for whatever reason, it was not delivered, and I believe reallocated to another brigade.
Pip
Ok surprised its deemed available in SACAD if they didnt get it.
Soo if it made it as far as being entered in to CAD and than at last minute was not delivered it must have been a drastic change in appliance allocation for this to happen??
Dunno.... I just get told when they are due for delivery, and then once they are delivered......
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on July 29, 2012, 03:16:28 PM
Someone's not happy:
MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 29/07/12 10:55 RESPOND FLOODING SALVAGE P2 44 NEWELL AV MIDDLETON MAP:ADL 306 P11,CALLER:RALPH FLEMING 85555357 == WATER ENTERING THROUGH REAR FENCE THREATENING TO ENTER SEPTIC SYSTEM. :SNOTIFY E STH20 A : - SES South Coast Response
then
11:18:57 MORE CREW REQUIRED - SES South Coast Response
and then
11:33:35 SOUTH COAST MEMBERS, DON'T BOTHER. CLOSING DOWN. FROM COMMS. - SES South Coast Response
And also a dummy spit to adelaide fire too apparently, some unit members are not to happy with fire brigade being responded to and dealing with "their" jobs.
NYPG;REMINDER THERMAL IMAGE CAMERA TRAINING TONIGHT 1930 HRS AT THE GROUP CENTRE FROM GO
I reeallly hope this isnt one of the few CFS have just purchased, seeing as there are already atleast 2 TIC's at MFS stations in very very close proximity to that group it could have possibly been served better elsewhere.
Ah well.
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on August 06, 2012, 03:48:21 PM
NYPG;REMINDER THERMAL IMAGE CAMERA TRAINING TONIGHT 1930 HRS AT THE GROUP CENTRE FROM GO
I reeallly hope this isnt one of the few CFS have just purchased, seeing as there are already atleast 2 TIC's at MFS stations in very very close proximity to that group it could have possibly been served better elsewhere.
Ah well.
I think you may find the R2 ops brigade guys bringing there's up for some general training...I may be wrong though
Correct Baggsyas....believe it is a demo session to show what services the Region through their Ops Brigade can provide.
cheers baggy and FT
22-08-12 08:41:01 MFS: *CFSRES INC0013 22/08/12 08:23 RESPOND HAZMAT, STUART HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/473 53,TG 068, ==55 KMS NTH PORT AUGUSTA @ RANGEVIEW LOOKOUT UNKNOWN CHEMICAL ==WILMINGTON HAZMAT OPERATORS REQUIRED :WILM34 : - CFS Wilmington Response
so send someone who is 43km further than port augusta mfs, what happened to closest most appropriate?
from memory its a dirt rd from the highway to the lookout.....BRT's turn pale when faced with anything less than 2 lanes of hotmix
Otherwise, maybe denuding the town of its response (a relatively higher risk) than taking Wilmingtons appliance (relatively lower risk) might have featured in the thinking
Alternatively, its CFS area.....keep the scabbing blue-shirts out of it... :evil:
/tic
Not looking at any subsequent response pages, is this confusing to anyone else?
MFS: *CFSRES INC0037 23/08/12 13:31 RESPOND TREE DOWN P2 YUMALI RD YUMALI MAP:C/100 54,CALLER: ==COVERING PART OF ROAD, 5.5KM ON A BEND TOWARDS MENINGIE :MEN20 A SNOTIFY E : - SES Meningie
Location is bit confusing..
I see Ki Ki eventually got a page for it........
15:04:23 23-08-12 NOTIFICATION - COMCEN IS NOW EXPERIENCING HIGH SES CALL LOADS - METRO APPLIANCES PLEASE USE MIP - COMCEN
I understand the high call load portion of the message, but what does MIP mean ?
Overtime and call back rates anyone.....
Quote from: bajdas on August 23, 2012, 03:02:44 PM
15:04:23 23-08-12 NOTIFICATION - COMCEN IS NOW EXPERIENCING HIGH SES CALL LOADS - METRO APPLIANCES PLEASE USE MIP - COMCEN
I understand the high call load portion of the message, but what does MIP mean ?
Overtime and call back rates anyone.....
Multiple Incident Procedure
Basically limiting low priority traffic and a different call screening/dispatch process to try to manage resources and maintain fire coverage during peak workloads.
Quote from: mengcfs on August 23, 2012, 01:15:13 PM
Not looking at any subsequent response pages, is this confusing to anyone else?
MFS: *CFSRES INC0037 23/08/12 13:31 RESPOND TREE DOWN P2 YUMALI RD YUMALI MAP:C/100 54,CALLER: ==COVERING PART OF ROAD, 5.5KM ON A BEND TOWARDS MENINGIE :MEN20 A SNOTIFY E : - SES Meningie
Not a local but I read it as 5.5km out of yumali towards meningie on the yumali road?
Quote1919555 09:02:13 26-08-12 TBGCC: THANKS TO PORT NEILL FOR THEIR 3 AM START NO THANKS TO THE DRINK DRIVER Q 26/08/2012 9:01:38 AM
CFS Tumby Bay Group Info
Might be true but seems somewhat of an Inappropriate message..!?!?
Bit rude. Don't like it don't do it.
NEW 34P APPLIANCE BEING DELIVERED NEXT MONDAY NIGHT AT 1900.CREW WILL BE REQUIRED FOR APPLIANCE FAMILIARISATION. STRATH CAPTAIN - CFS Strathalbyn Info
Good luck to Strath for having a very modern fleet but i would really like the people who allocate vehicles explain why some brigades can have 2 new 34P's when there are other brigades like ours that have a very tired 24P which is our frontline urban and RCR appliance and be told we have to have it until its 20-25 years old.
Seriously, anyone out there who can explain how this works?? one minute we are told our 24P is past the age limit for refurbishment but there are other 24P's of the same age going for refurbishment.
And to add to that... Athelstone have a new 34P I hear on the grapevine.
Correct Chinny....delivered last night.
A few more to come over the next few weeks.....
Pip
31-08-12 10:22:44 15 people did not respond to ANtons page asking for everyones pager no. If you are one do it now. NOT in a while F-N-NOW. Text to ******* Signed LT3 - CFS Waikerie Info
I wouldn't have thought any issue involving volunteers deserves a pager message like that.
01-09-12 21:08:30 TMBY: SIREN 3-PHASE POWER FAILURE - CFS Tumby Bay Info
Was unsure where to bring this up but if I was a member in Tumby I would have lost my sh*t by now over this! Goes of at all times of day n night!!
Not wrong! it has been happening for months.
Why are they not fixing this?
The problem is a capacitor in the Fire Station Interface box..... causes the message to be sent, but they don't actually have a power failure.
Relatively easy job for a tech to fix.....
Pip
Obviously either not bothering them or they don't have many members carrying pagers lol I woulda lost my sh*t well n truly by now :-D
12:41:23 03-09-12 PLEASE MAKE YOURSELVES AVAILABLE FOR THIS JOB AS eLIzAReTH GAWLER ARE NOT GOING 'bROM DALKEITH DUTY OFF??cR - CFS Dalkeith Info
12:37:31 03-09-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0060 03/09/12 12:37 RESPOND STRUCTURE SHED, 52 FIRST ST GAWLER SOUTH,MAP:ADL 23 L15,TG 182, ==SHED FIRE :DALK24 DALK34P R : - CFS Dalkeith Response
Elizabeth 331 did attend
yeah but they were at a vehicle fire just before that.
Not exactly, they were responding to the vehicle fire but weren't required so they were responded to the shed fire but had a delayed response because they were on the highway heading towards Hewett. Hewett is on the opposite side of Gawler to Gawler South :-)
thats what i meant, they shouldn't think that they are going to always get back up from mfs, those who assume normally get into trouble.
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on August 31, 2012, 06:34:11 PM
31-08-12 10:22:44 15 people did not respond to ANtons page asking for everyones pager no. If you are one do it now. NOT in a while F-N-NOW. Text to ******* Signed LT3 - CFS Waikerie Info
I wouldn't have thought any issue involving volunteers deserves a pager message like that.
My first response would have been throwing my pager at the LT3's head, followed by my crew bag, with my letter of "get f***ed and jam it" in there. I surely hope this is being dealt with appropriately.
Totaly uncalled for, especially in areas where they are REALLY struggling for volunteers. Maybe it was an outgoing LT with some sour grapes?
Haven't seen a 4th alarm in a while...
MFS: *CFSRES INC0046 04/09/12 12:38 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, INSTITUTE RD MONTACUTE,MAP:ADL 109 Q13,TG 126, == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 == Alarm level updated to 4 ==ATTEND VIA MOORES RD == BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL. ==2KMS FROM MONTACUTE ROAD :CHVL24 NORT34P SUMM34P SUMM BWC : - CFS Norton Summit Response
Quote from: adizz131 on September 04, 2012, 12:33:53 PM
Haven't seen a 4th alarm in a while...
MFS: *CFSRES INC0046 04/09/12 12:38 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, INSTITUTE RD MONTACUTE,MAP:ADL 109 Q13,TG 126, == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 == Alarm level updated to 4 ==ATTEND VIA MOORES RD == BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL. ==2KMS FROM MONTACUTE ROAD :CHVL24 NORT34P SUMM34P SUMM BWC : - CFS Norton Summit Response
And you get to see it twice in one day!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0059 04/09/12 14:32 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BRIDGE TCE BURRA,MAP:SBA 1 K 9,TG 067, == FIRE IN CREEK UNDER BRIDGE, NEAR PAXTON TERRACE. == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 == Alarm level updated to 4 ==ASSIST BURRA :BRRA34 BRRAQRV FARR24 MBYN34 : - CFS Burra Group Officers Response
Quote from: CFS_Firey on September 04, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
And you get to see it twice in one day!
MFS: *CFSRES INC0059 04/09/12 14:32 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BRIDGE TCE BURRA,MAP:SBA 1 K 9,TG 067, == FIRE IN CREEK UNDER BRIDGE, NEAR PAXTON TERRACE. == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 == Alarm level updated to 4 ==ASSIST BURRA :BRRA34 BRRAQRV FARR24 MBYN34 : - CFS Burra Group Officers Response
Quickly downgraded though
14:44:47 04-09-12 MFS: INC 059 - PER BURRA BASE, STOP FOR CALL, NO LONGER REQUIRED. FARR24 MBYN34
CFS Burra Group Officers Response
15:21:32 04-09-12 CFS:SIG INC: BUSHFIRE ADVICE MESSAGE (REDUCED THREAT) ISSUED FOR BURRA FIRE - REFER CRIIMSON FOR FURTHER INFO - SC WATTS 4/09/2012 3:20:08 PM
CFS Headquarters Info
I thought they were going to fix the way the pager mesages fill up with all that sort of crap: "== Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 == Alarm level updated to 4 =="?
Nice to see everyone playing well together and sharing the load.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0122 05/09/12 14:24 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, : @MURR BRG SES UNIT HQ THOMAS ST MURRAY BRIDGE,MAP:ADL 349 K 5,TG 195, ==murray bridge ses requests m/b MFS to assist M/B cfs with incidents == MANNUM CGS REQUIRED TO ATTEND MURRAY BRIDGE SES UBNIT TO ASSIST WITH LOCAL :JRVS34 MBR721 : - CFS Jervois Response
Midnight to send this..???
Quote. 1909005 23:59:23 08-09-12 MYLR: Mylor, FYI: Burnover drill This Monday Night 10th Sept. All members need to attend to be signed off before this fire season or give appologies on monday night thanks Mylor BTO. 9/09/2012
CFS Mylor Info
Just asking..???
09-09-12 17:16:10 1 person required for minimum 3 day deployment to moomba/innaminka leaving 0730 tomorrow morning..truck driver preferred ring m McDonald ASAP 0428****** - CFS Redhill Info
Looks like the fire season way up north is up and away!!
21-09-12 14:39:47 K5 IS UNNECESSARY RADIO TRAFFIC FROM REGIONAL APPLIANCES. PLEASE GIVE US THE REQUIRED INFORMATION ONLY. - MFS Port Augusta Response
uuuummmm, how are comms suppose to know when your back in station and available if you dont give a k5???
21-09-12 15:45:10 CFS:SIG INC: TOTAL FIRE BANS HAVE BEEN DECLARED FOR 22/09/12 IN THE NWP(S), NEP(S). ON-CALL STAFF CONFIRM VIA CRIIMSON OR SCC. 21/09/2012 3:44:44 PM - CFS R4 HQ Info
First fire bans for the season!!
Quote from: fire8029 on September 21, 2012, 02:32:10 PM
21-09-12 14:39:47 K5 IS UNNECESSARY RADIO TRAFFIC FROM REGIONAL APPLIANCES. PLEASE GIVE US THE REQUIRED INFORMATION ONLY. - MFS Port Augusta Response
uuuummmm, how are comms suppose to know when your back in station and available if you dont give a k5???
If you have already booked K3 or K4 then you would already be back on the run.
24-09-12 11:51:24 MSG ONLY: ACCO SKYJET NOW ONLINE AS 543. PLEASE MAKE YOURSELVES FAMILIAR. 549 IS TO BE FIRST RESPONSE. - MFS Port Lincoln Info
whats happening with the other one?
Quote from: fire8029 on September 24, 2012, 11:23:03 AM
24-09-12 11:51:24 MSG ONLY: ACCO SKYJET NOW ONLINE AS 543. PLEASE MAKE YOURSELVES FAMILIAR. 549 IS TO BE FIRST RESPONSE. - MFS Port Lincoln Info
whats happening with the other one?
Probably nothing sinister, just a service maybe?
26-09-12 15:22:35 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 26/09/12 15:21 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, LINCOLN HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/360 53,TG 068, == NEAR KIMBA WHYALLA ROAD. :IRKBQRV WHY29
26-09-12 15:30:57 MFS: *CFSRES INC0072 26/09/12 15:30 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, STUART HWY NO SUBURB,,TG 070, ==2 VEHICLE ACCIDENT, 1 ON FIRE, NIL ENTRAP, 85KM NORTH OF PT AUGUSTA :RXBYPUMP WOOM34P R
26-09-12 15:38:06 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 26/09/12 15:35 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, :NEAR EYRE HWY LINCOLN HWY NO SUBURB,MAP:C/395 53,TG 068, == NEAR KIMBA WHYALLA ROAD. :STLN24P H STLN34P R
26-09-12 15:44:08 MFS: *CFSRES INC0072 26/09/12 15:34 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, STUART HWY WOOMERA,,TG 070, ==2 VEHICLE ACCIDENT, 1 ON FIRE, NIL ENTRAP, 85KM NORTH OF PT AUGUSTA :PAU519 RXBYPUMP WOOM34P R : - MFS Port Augusta Response
found this interesting, send stirling north to inc 69 which they have to go through whyalla instead of sending them to inc 72 which they are far closer than roxby downs, send 529 to the rcr keep 519 at station and send stirling north to the fire i would have thought would make sense.
27-09-12 15:27:08 Pt Elliot covering Victor Harbor area from 12 noon till 6pm tomorrow in it's entirity. Captain is available - CFS Port Elliot Info
:?
There'd be a change of quarters from Metro before this would even be considered... Unless I'm missing something.
i was thinking exactly the same thing alex. They have pulled Seaford down twice now to cover for when Victor were committed at a Structure, and RCR job.
EDIT: Covering Victor CFS group.
is anyone noticing that the SAAS Road crash research is down? Any one know why?
cheers :)
Quote from: Skippy on September 29, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
is anyone noticing that the SAAS Road crash research is down? Any one know why?
cheers :)
You mean the road crash research pages are no longer on the paging feed, or the actual road crash research people?
bit of both - but more so - yes - the research pagers are no longer on the paging feed
Quote from: Skippy on September 30, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
bit of both - but more so - yes - the research pagers are no longer on the paging feed
I think that's because with SACAD the RCResearch mob weren't getting pages separately any more, they were just getting repaged any message that had the characters "RCR" in it, so there wasn't much point in including them in the feed...
apparently the system doing the repaging for SAAS had crashed and no one had noticed, the Road Crash Research pages are back today.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0129 04/10/12 00:33 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, PORT RIVER EXP WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 A 3,TG 155 , ==RUBBISH FIRE AT WINGFIELD RECYCLING DEPO, SECURITY ON SCENE == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 :PLI543 : - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Are these guys in town, or have they got a road trip.
Quote from: Yossarian on October 04, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0129 04/10/12 00:33 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, PORT RIVER EXP WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 A 3,TG 155 , ==RUBBISH FIRE AT WINGFIELD RECYCLING DEPO, SECURITY ON SCENE == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 :PLI543 : - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Are these guys in town, or have they got a road trip.
04-10-12 16:00:24 DISREGARD INC 0129 SC. RESPOND INC 072 ONLY. FIRE ALARM LONDON ST - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Paging error
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 04, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
Quote from: Yossarian on October 04, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0129 04/10/12 00:33 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, PORT RIVER EXP WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 A 3,TG 155 , ==RUBBISH FIRE AT WINGFIELD RECYCLING DEPO, SECURITY ON SCENE == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 :PLI543 : - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Are these guys in town, or have they got a road trip.
04-10-12 16:00:24 DISREGARD INC 0129 SC. RESPOND INC 072 ONLY. FIRE ALARM LONDON ST - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Paging error
Missed that - oops
Maybe Hillcrest is due for a fire station :-P
06:40:45 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0023 21/10/12 06:40 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, 22A GRENVILLE AV HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 F13,TG 182, == BIN FIRE NOW OUT :AIRDESK OAK301 : - MFS Oakden 301
05:50:14 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0021 21/10/12 05:49 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, NEPAL ST HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 F15,TG 182, :PDS221 : - MFS Paradise 221 Response
05:40:16 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 21/10/12 05:39 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, NESTOR ST HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 F15,TG 182, :OAK303 PDS221 : - MFS Oakden Turnout
04:40:13 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0016 21/10/12 04:39 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LORD HOWE AV/HAWKINS AV HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 E13,TG 182, == VACANT HOUSE == Alarm level updated to 2 :ADL206 CAR30 PDS221 PPT371 S1 CROCKFO SMGMTGRP : - MFS Prospect 371
04:33:50 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0016 21/10/12 04:33 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LORD HOWE AV/HAWKINS AV HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 E13,TG 182, == VACANT HOUSE :OAK301 OAK303 : - MFS Oakden Turnout
Quote from: Hazmat206 on October 21, 2012, 08:39:01 AM
Maybe Hillcrest is due for a fire station :-P
06:40:45 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0023 21/10/12 06:40 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, 22A GRENVILLE AV HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 F13,TG 182, == BIN FIRE NOW OUT :AIRDESK OAK301 : - MFS Oakden 301
05:50:14 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0021 21/10/12 05:49 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, NEPAL ST HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 F15,TG 182, :PDS221 : - MFS Paradise 221 Response
05:40:16 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 21/10/12 05:39 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, NESTOR ST HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 F15,TG 182, :OAK303 PDS221 : - MFS Oakden Turnout
04:40:13 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0016 21/10/12 04:39 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LORD HOWE AV/HAWKINS AV HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 E13,TG 182, == VACANT HOUSE == Alarm level updated to 2 :ADL206 CAR30 PDS221 PPT371 S1 CROCKFO SMGMTGRP : - MFS Prospect 371
04:33:50 21-10-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0016 21/10/12 04:33 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, LORD HOWE AV/HAWKINS AV HILLCREST,MAP:ADL 95 E13,TG 182, == VACANT HOUSE :OAK301 OAK303 : - MFS Oakden Turnout
OMCGs at play apparantly according to the Tiser
MFS: *CFSRES INC0080 08/11/12 18:02 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, : @COQ - MULTIPLE STATIONS,MAP:ADL 118 H12,TG 182, == 441 TO MURRAY BRIDGE 202 TO 44 :ADL202 GLO441 : - MFS GlenOsmond Station
Local wreckers at Murray Bridge has a few cars alight.
Nice day for a drive.
so the closest resource concept is working well then??
10-11-12 17:42:36 MSG ONLY- Tomorrow is a TOTAL FIRE BAN FDI is 88 Wind is up to 50kph Northerly. Bombers are on Auto response. Please make yourselves available for any calls. - MFS Port Lincoln Info
Has the bomber contract actually started?? Anyone in the know?
10-11-12 22:20:15
HI. I WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU JUST FYI, NEXT TIME LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING AND LET ME DO MY JOB. TRY GETTING OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF BED TOMORROW! LUKE. - SAAS Unit Edwardstown
11-11-12 16:28:32
PER S/O COLLIAR, WHY528 AND TANKER TO RESPOND TO PORT LINCOLN - MFS Whyalla Response
21-11-12 08:52:59 MFS: *CFSRES INC0040 21/11/12 08:52 RESPOND DOMESTIC GAS, : @RENAISSANCE CENTRE/TOWER 119 RUNDLE MALL ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 H10,TG 182, ==5TH FLOOR,STRONG SMELL OF GAS, WORKMEN IN AREA, ABOVE K-MART :ADL203 RESCUE01 : - MFS Adelaide ADL203
does anyone know what this rescue is? I have also seen pump03
Just a spare appliance call sign.
Was running in place of 201 due to an issue with a fleet change in CAD, all back to normal now.
Pump03, pump06, etc could be the same issue, but are also at times used as extra appliances, ie when MFS strike team was dispatched to port Lincoln.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0056 22/11/12 11:43 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BROADVIEW RD WESTERN FLAT,MAP:C/38 54,TG 230, ==RE-KINDLE OF FIRE. MICK GRADY'S PROPERTY :AIRDESK BANG24 FRAN34 : - CFS Naracoorte Group Officers Response
CAD upgrade today, should make life easier.
Once current jobs that already have comments in them start to disappear this is all you will see for alarm levels, just the current one.
Quote from: Alex on November 22, 2012, 08:40:13 AM
Just a spare appliance call sign.
Was running in place of 201 due to an issue with a fleet change in CAD, all back to normal now.
Pump03, pump06, etc could be the same issue, but are also at times used as extra appliances, ie when MFS strike team was dispatched to port Lincoln.
That is what i thought, just odd as they normally have TC3811 and TC382, never seen those ones before. Thanks
Quote from: Alex on November 22, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0056 22/11/12 11:43 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BROADVIEW RD WESTERN FLAT,MAP:C/38 54,TG 230, ==RE-KINDLE OF FIRE. MICK GRADY'S PROPERTY :AIRDESK BANG24 FRAN34 : - CFS Naracoorte Group Officers Response
CAD upgrade today, should make life easier.
Once current jobs that already have comments in them start to disappear this is all you will see for alarm levels, just the current one.
I noticed this yesterday on a couple of our jobs. Makes life much easier.
11-12-12 10:05:11 WKB188 PR: 2 - WAIKERIE D0275 Disp: 10:05 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Waikerie
10:20:22 MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 11/12/12 10:20 RESPOND HEAVY RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, STURT HWY/VASEY RD WAIKERIE,MAP:C/241 54,TG 205, ==CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENT, SAPOL CONDUCTING CPR, CAR VS TRUCK, SAAS RESCUE ENROUTE :WAIKPUMP WAIK RES H :
Seriously this problem is continuing to happen often, whether the call was first taken by SAAS or SAPol a 15 minute delay calling a rescue resource is completely unacceptable in these times, when will something be done regarding this??
More than likely they wont do anything considering interCAD is coming..
In the meantime, RCR grievance forms.
So is there any timeframe on intercad coming online? wasn't it meant to be up and running months ago?
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on December 11, 2012, 10:17:47 AM
10:20:22 MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 11/12/12 10:20 RESPOND HEAVY RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, STURT HWY/VASEY RD WAIKERIE,MAP:C/241 54,TG 205, ==CONFIRMED ENTRAPMENT, SAPOL CONDUCTING CPR, CAR VS TRUCK, SAAS RESCUE ENROUTE :WAIKPUMP WAIK RES H :
Seriously this problem is continuing to happen often, whether the call was first taken by SAAS or SAPol a 15 minute delay calling a rescue resource is completely unacceptable in these times, when will something be done regarding this??
Also, who are SAAS Rescue? or do they mean SOT?
Probably rescue 51/52 helicopters
To clarify it was a Medstar Retrieval Team with an SOT Member onboard in Rescue 51.Two elderly patients transported to RAH after an extensive extrication time, with the car virtually encapsulating the driver.
Both in stable condition.
See this happen quite often... Initial response type is Minor Cleanup, then quickly changed to RCR. Why?
16:49:52 15-12-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0075 15/12/12 16:49 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SHEPHERDS HILL RD EDEN HILLS,MAP:ADL 153 Q 4,TG 146, == 5 CAR MVA, NIL ENTRAP, NEAR STURT RD INTERSECT :EDNHPUMP H : - CFS Eden Hills Response
16:50:17 15-12-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0075 15/12/12 16:50 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SHEPHERDS HILL RD EDEN HILLS,MAP:ADL 153 Q 4,TG 146, == 5 CAR MVA, NIL ENTRAP, NEAR STURT RD INTERSECT :BKWD24 RC EDNHPUMP H : - CFS Blackwood Response
probably an on the ball officer requesting an upgrade of an incident, lost count of how many nil entrap accidents we have been called to that have required "cutting".
Could also be new information come in causing the change in job classification.
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on December 15, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
See this happen quite often... Initial response type is Minor Cleanup, then quickly changed to RCR. Why?
I believe CFS SOP is that a rescue resource will be responded to any vehicle accident, until nil entrapment is confirmed by an emergency service on scene. This was part of the RCR resource directory but now that's been replaced by SACAD I'm not sure where these policies come from.
MFS don't have the "rescue to every job" policy, so they have a 'minor cleanup' response type, but they're not supposed to use this for CFS jobs.
i know within our group a rescue resource will not take a stop if there are people still in the vehicles even if they are stated to be not trapped
Quote from: CFS_Firey on December 15, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
I believe CFS SOP is that a rescue resource will be responded to any vehicle accident, until nil entrapment is confirmed by an emergency service on scene. This was part of the RCR resource directory but now that's been replaced by SACAD I'm not sure where these policies come from.
MFS don't have the "rescue to every job" policy, so they have a 'minor cleanup' response type, but they're not supposed to use this for CFS jobs.
I've heard the same thing, we got called to a Minor Clean up a few months ago, which immediately got updated to RCR, which got a rescue appliance sent as well. Though when we (Both us and the Rescue) arrived, the Ambo's were just leaving with the sole occupant, and SAPOL had already set up. So I'd think the 'nil entrapment' call might have to come from us/RCR person. Not sure though.
Not a CFS SOP thing, purely to do with RCRD and the metro MFS boundary being used as the border for its policy.
All jobs outside of metro MFS have to be sent as an RCR, every now and then an operator inadvertently sends a minor cleanup for an MVA and so they are quickly upgraded to rectify it.
There is still much confusion as to what the responses across all of SA should be for road accidents, especially since CAD came online. The RCR Comittee does not exist any longer, but the reasons the RCRD was created are still valid. It will be interesting to see what evolves.
Quote from: Alex on December 16, 2012, 07:07:11 AM
All jobs outside of metro MFS have to be sent as an RCR, every now and then an operator inadvertently sends a minor cleanup for an MVA and so they are quickly upgraded to rectify it.
Makes sense, I thought that was probably the reason.
Thanks all.
18-12-12 14:19:56 PG40 PR: 2 - BARRIER HWY NACKARA D0535 Disp: 14:17 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Unit Port Augusta
18-12-12 14:25:00 Event cancelled - crew now not required - SAAS Unit Port Augusta
18-12-12 15:13:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC0060 18/12/12 15:13 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, :35 KM STH OF YUNTA ON BARRIER HWY NACKARA,,TG 072, ==CAR VS TREE, DRIVER OK, FLUID ON ROAD :YUNT14 YUNT34 R : - CFS Yunta Response
WOW
23-12-12 10:51:45 STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS IS CATASTROPHIC - ALL ON-CALL STAFF ATTEND SCC IMMEDIATELY - SC THOMASON - CFS Headquarters Info
Weather Forecast less than accurate again! How can the Government expect everyday people to "PREPARE ACT SURVIVE" when the forecast Fire Danger Ratings are in accurate...I know weather is hard to predict but i think in this situation media releases should go out advising the community that infact the current FDI rating in your area is .... Some of the current FDI readings in some areas are twice as much as forecast!
I wonder what went wrong here.
This went to Air Desk, looks fine...
07:58:05 27-12-12 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0034 27/12/12 07:57 RESPOND TREE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, FORBES RD ALDGATE,MAP:ADL 157 L 9,TG 136, ==BASE OF TREE ALIGHT, NEAR INTERSECTION OF EMERY RD :AIRDESK ALDG12 : CFS State Air Desk
This went to Aldgate, ain't look fine...
07:58:08 27-12-12 LARM LEVEL: 1, FORBES RD ALDGATE,MAP:ADL 157 L 9,TG 136, ==BASE OF TREE ALIGHT, NEAR INTERSECTION OF EMERY RD :AIRDESK ALDG12 : CFS Aldgate Response
Corrupted message on the pager feed - not unusual
Pip
28-12-12 15:58:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0060 28/12/12 15:58 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PORT RIVER EXP/SALISBURY HWY WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 J 2,TG 182, ==SMALL GRASS FIRE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF INTERSECTION :AIRDESK PAD251 : - MFS Port Adelaide Station
Than
28-12-12 16:00:29 MFS: *CFSRES INC0061 28/12/12 16:00 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 25 GRAND JUNCTION RD <NULL>,MAP:ADL 92 A11,TG 182, == 321 TO STATION 25 :SAL321 : - MFS Salisbury SAL321
Would Salisbury MFS nearly drive past this incident on way to port Adelaide?
Not nearly, right past. Seems they have been back to this fire a couple of times now. Unless they are all new fires?
Thought you would send Oakden or Woodville change of quarters too, would be closer than Salisbury.
Crew for OTH A34, Para Tanker and for Strike team vehicle reqd for Clare tomorrow leaving station at 05:30 back early evening. Please SMS David on 0438 807 678. - CFS One Tree Hill Info
Why would you pull a strike team out of a group that is in a TFB tommorow to go to an area not in TFB?
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 01, 2013, 07:11:26 PM
Crew for OTH A34, Para Tanker and for Strike team vehicle reqd for Clare tomorrow leaving station at 05:30 back early evening. Please SMS David on 0438 807 678. - CFS One Tree Hill Info
Why would you pull a strike team out of a group that is in a TFB tommorow to go to an area not in TFB?
Regardless of FDR there is still a huge number of resources in the hills. 5 trucks doesn't make much difference.
Quote from: Alex on January 01, 2013, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 01, 2013, 07:11:26 PM
Crew for OTH A34, Para Tanker and for Strike team vehicle reqd for Clare tomorrow leaving station at 05:30 back early evening. Please SMS David on 0438 807 678. - CFS One Tree Hill Info
Why would you pull a strike team out of a group that is in a TFB tommorow to go to an area not in TFB?
Regardless of FDR there is still a huge number of resources in the hills. 5 trucks doesn't make much difference.
Cut them out the fleet than save some $$$$ that could be spent elsewhere :-P
why cut out resources from a fleet when they can be used in different areas by strike teams. The areas where extra resources are allocated often have a high risk in terms of fire cover due to population, but with a higher population comes a higher number of people who would volunteer, so effectively creating a reserve army of firefighters would can respond to any area of the state and not drastically reducing the number of resources in the affected area
Quote from: kiwifirefighter on January 01, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
why cut out resources from a fleet when they can be used in different areas by strike teams. The areas where extra resources are allocated often have a high risk in terms of fire cover due to population, but with a higher population comes a higher number of people who would volunteer, so effectively creating a reserve army of firefighters would can respond to any area of the state and not drastically reducing the number of resources in the affected area
Said with tongue firmly in cheek ol mate hence the :-P at the end!
Just on the fire at Sevenhill, does anyone have any info re size of the fire? Hasnt seemed to made the paper or the tv news.
About 31 hectares
Quote from: DaveP on January 02, 2013, 03:57:03 PM
About 31 hectares
you are kidding arent you???......we're moving strike teams from 200kms away for a 70acre fire?
STRATH INFO: As of 0700hrs station will be unmanned.Flag has been lowered. C.S.going home because there is no GINGER BEER left in fridge. Take care in 2013 D/O. - SES Strathalbyn
Seen a few pages like this for strath ses saying they are manned... Are they serious that someone has been sitting at their unit waiting for jobs?? if so why on earth would there be a need for that?
Big Al, This might answer part of your query. Refer to the 2011 winner(s).
http://www.sasesva.org.au/keithlane.html (http://www.sasesva.org.au/keithlane.html)
Quote from: COBB on January 02, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
Big Al, This might answer part of your query. Refer to the 2011 winner(s).
http://www.sasesva.org.au/keithlane.html (http://www.sasesva.org.au/keithlane.html)
sounds like they should have been nominated for the G.A.L Award...still doesnt help them get a truck out the door on time
Quote from: misterteddy on January 02, 2013, 08:03:16 PM
still doesnt help them get a truck out the door on time
Really? Based on what data?
03-01-13 15:56:02 CFS:AIR OPS FDI INFO FOR 04/01/2013: MLR 108 & 113 (BAN) LSE 123 & 151(BAN) LEP 123 (BAN) SRZ (BAN) - REFER TO UPCOMING AIR OPS PLAN FOR START TIMES -SARC DOWLING - CFS Bombers Info
MLR FDI doesn't equal catastrophic does it?? That's only extreme?
MLR, KI & LSE only have to hit 100 to make catastrophic due to high levels of forestry.
Quote from: Alex on January 03, 2013, 02:46:15 PM
MLR, KI & LSE only have to hit 100 to make catastrophic due to high levels of forestry.
Cheers Alex thanks for the info!! Stay cool and safe people!
I'm disappointed Mr T.
I generally thought your observations were a lot more considered and justifiable.
Anyway.... Moving on.
Quote from: Mike on January 03, 2013, 10:06:11 PM
I'm disappointed Mr T.
I generally thought your observations were a lot more considered and justifiable.
Anyway.... Moving on.
oh it's definitely considered and justafiable....I see the result down the street, rather than the subterfuge that appears in documents and Service stats
I'm crushed you're disappointed, but then I always considered you a better judge of character :wink:
Quote from: Alex on January 03, 2013, 02:46:15 PM
MLR, KI & LSE only have to hit 100 to make catastrophic due to high levels of forestry.
The FFDI has a trigger of 100 for Catastrophic. GFDI is still 150 for MLR as the trigger.
23-01-13 17:47:29 CFS:SIG INC: *** AMENDED *** TOTAL FIRE BANS HAVE BEEN DECLARED FOR 24/01/13 IN THE NWP (E), WC (E), LSE (S). ON-CALL STAFF CONFIRM VIA CRIIMSON OR SCC. - CFS Headquarters Info
Interesting fire bans for tomorrow? Almost guarantee FDI will rise above TFB Level locally! TOUR DOWN UNDER stunt maybe??
don't we work on the BOM figures, not what we think might happen?....as flawed as the process is, least we dont have individual guesswork involved then...(other than the BOM forecaster's)
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on January 23, 2013, 04:24:03 PM
23-01-13 17:47:29 CFS:SIG INC: *** AMENDED *** TOTAL FIRE BANS HAVE BEEN DECLARED FOR 24/01/13 IN THE NWP (E), WC (E), LSE (S). ON-CALL STAFF CONFIRM VIA CRIIMSON OR SCC. - CFS Headquarters Info
Interesting fire bans for tomorrow? Almost guarantee FDI will rise above TFB Level locally! TOUR DOWN UNDER stunt maybe??
Doubt it. They don't cancel a stage unless area is catastrophic.
01-02-13 17:09:04 DALKEITH PUMPER IS NOW BACK IN THE STATION AND ONLINE SIGNED AHOGG. - CFS Dalkeith Info
New truck?? :roll:
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 01, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
01-02-13 17:09:04 DALKEITH PUMPER IS NOW BACK IN THE STATION AND ONLINE SIGNED AHOGG. - CFS Dalkeith Info
New truck?? :roll:
I've seen them refer to their 34P as 'Pumper'. Could possibly be the same thing here.
Quote from: Raven on February 01, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 01, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
01-02-13 17:09:04 DALKEITH PUMPER IS NOW BACK IN THE STATION AND ONLINE SIGNED AHOGG. - CFS Dalkeith Info
New truck?? :roll:
I've seen them refer to their 34P as 'Pumper'. Could possibly be the same thing here.
Quite possibly on to something there Raven... :wink:
Quote. 1909054 17:06:12 03-02-13 CHRY INFO: PAGER GPS TRACKING HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR THE LAST WEEK. AN AMNESTY IS IN PLACE FOR ANY OUTSTANDING PAGERS FOR THE NEXT WEEK ONLY. CHRY CPTN
CFS Cherry Gardens Info
GPS tracking on pagers - fact or fiction..?!?
Quote from: straps on February 03, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
Quote. 1909054 17:06:12 03-02-13 CHRY INFO: PAGER GPS TRACKING HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR THE LAST WEEK. AN AMNESTY IS IN PLACE FOR ANY OUTSTANDING PAGERS FOR THE NEXT WEEK ONLY. CHRY CPTN
CFS Cherry Gardens Info
GPS tracking on pagers - fact or fiction..?!?
Fiction.
Probably the captains way of getting everyone to return old pagers. haha
06-02-13 22:42:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0107 06/02/13 22:41 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SPENCER HWY WALLAROO,MAP:SWL 2 D18,TG 101, == 1 KM SOUTH OF WALLAROO TOWARDS MOONTA :KDNA24P H : - CFS Kadina Response
06-02-13 22:42:19 MFS: *CFSRES INC0107 06/02/13 22:41 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SPENCER HWY WALLAROO,MAP:SWL 2 D18,TG 101, == 1 KM SOUTH OF WALLAROO TOWARDS MOONTA :KDNA24P H WAL671 : - MFS Wallaroo Response
1km south of Wallroo, yet Kadina CFS paged before Wallaroo MFS, albeit only several seconds. Would have thought second appliance for this type of call would be Kadina/Moonta MFS?
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 06, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
06-02-13 22:42:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0107 06/02/13 22:41 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SPENCER HWY WALLAROO,MAP:SWL 2 D18,TG 101, == 1 KM SOUTH OF WALLAROO TOWARDS MOONTA :KDNA24P H : - CFS Kadina Response
06-02-13 22:42:19 MFS: *CFSRES INC0107 06/02/13 22:41 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SPENCER HWY WALLAROO,MAP:SWL 2 D18,TG 101, == 1 KM SOUTH OF WALLAROO TOWARDS MOONTA :KDNA24P H WAL671 : - MFS Wallaroo Response
1km south of Wallroo, yet Kadina CFS paged before Wallaroo MFS, albeit only several seconds. Would have thought second appliance for this type of call would be Kadina/Moonta MFS?
1km south is in kadina CFS response area hence first appliance next closest being wallaroos appliance!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 06, 2013, 09:39:47 PM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 06, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
06-02-13 22:42:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0107 06/02/13 22:41 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SPENCER HWY WALLAROO,MAP:SWL 2 D18,TG 101, == 1 KM SOUTH OF WALLAROO TOWARDS MOONTA :KDNA24P H : - CFS Kadina Response
06-02-13 22:42:19 MFS: *CFSRES INC0107 06/02/13 22:41 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SPENCER HWY WALLAROO,MAP:SWL 2 D18,TG 101, == 1 KM SOUTH OF WALLAROO TOWARDS MOONTA :KDNA24P H WAL671 : - MFS Wallaroo Response
1km south of Wallroo, yet Kadina CFS paged before Wallaroo MFS, albeit only several seconds. Would have thought second appliance for this type of call would be Kadina/Moonta MFS?
1km south is in kadina CFS response area hence first appliance next closest being wallaroos appliance!
Makes sense, thanks.
08-02-13 12:08:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:08 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BARINIA RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK CLAR24P H CLAR34 : - CFS Clare Response
08-02-13 12:10:11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0034 08/02/13 12:09 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==CURRENTLY BURNING ABOUT 100M AWAY FROM HOUSES :AIRDESK BLYT24 SEVN34 : - CFS Sevenhill Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:13:33 MFS: INCIDENT 034, STOP FOR CALL - CFS Sevenhill Response
08-02-13 12:13:32 MFS: INCIDENT 034, STOP FOR CALL - CFS Blyth Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:21:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:21 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 2, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK BLYT24 R2 POST SEVN34 : - CFS Sevenhill Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:25:05 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 3, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK BLYT24 MNTR34 R2 POST WATV24 : - CFS State Air Desk
WOOOOOOPS :roll:
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
08-02-13 12:08:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:08 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BARINIA RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK CLAR24P H CLAR34 : - CFS Clare Response
08-02-13 12:10:11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0034 08/02/13 12:09 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==CURRENTLY BURNING ABOUT 100M AWAY FROM HOUSES :AIRDESK BLYT24 SEVN34 : - CFS Sevenhill Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:13:33 MFS: INCIDENT 034, STOP FOR CALL - CFS Sevenhill Response
08-02-13 12:13:32 MFS: INCIDENT 034, STOP FOR CALL - CFS Blyth Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:21:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:21 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 2, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK BLYT24 R2 POST SEVN34 : - CFS Sevenhill Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:25:05 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 3, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK BLYT24 MNTR34 R2 POST WATV24 : - CFS State Air Desk
WOOOOOOPS :roll:
I saw that as well, and thought, some definitely made a mistake.
Quote from: Raven on February 08, 2013, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2013, 11:07:48 AM
08-02-13 12:08:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:08 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BARINIA RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK CLAR24P H CLAR34 : - CFS Clare Response
08-02-13 12:10:11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0034 08/02/13 12:09 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==CURRENTLY BURNING ABOUT 100M AWAY FROM HOUSES :AIRDESK BLYT24 SEVN34 : - CFS Sevenhill Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:13:33 MFS: INCIDENT 034, STOP FOR CALL - CFS Sevenhill Response
08-02-13 12:13:32 MFS: INCIDENT 034, STOP FOR CALL - CFS Blyth Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:21:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:21 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 2, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK BLYT24 R2 POST SEVN34 : - CFS Sevenhill Response
THAN
08-02-13 12:25:05 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 08/02/13 12:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 3, ANGAS CT/BLOCKERS RD STANLEY FLAT,MAP:C/268 54,TG 099, ==OUT PAST HEINRICHS, TOWARDS WHITE HUT RD, NO FUTHER INFO :AIRDESK BLYT24 MNTR34 R2 POST WATV24 : - CFS State Air Desk
WOOOOOOPS :roll:
I saw that as well, and thought, some definitely made a mistake.
Ended up 4th alarm.....
The only "Woops" is the accidental duplication, although I would suggest the locations were "different enough" to warrant checking.
Brigades sent on the duplication stopped and then upon arrival at initial job responded as an upgrade.
Driving back to Adelaide from north of Clare, first spotted the smoke from just south of georgetown, so very suprised to see that page later. It was quite a decent smoke column by the time I passed the area.
......
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 14, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? - CFS Burnside Info
21:23:32 14-02-13 BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY filtered CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info
Ummmm.......
this discussion is in this thread - http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php?topic=333.3800;topicseen (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php?topic=333.3800;topicseen)
Quote from: adizz131 on February 14, 2013, 08:17:19 PM
Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 14, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? - CFS Burnside Info
21:23:32 14-02-13 BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY filtered CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info
Ummmm.......
this discussion is in this thread - http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php?topic=333.3800;topicseen (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php?topic=333.3800;topicseen)
I realised that after i put it up. Didn't bother to look there as it isn't very ammusing....
07:19:00 18-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0007 18/02/13 07:18 RESPOND HELICOPTER LANDING P1 TARLEE RD KAPUNDA MAP:C/207 54,CALLER:SAAS ==REQ HELICOPTER LANDING SITE AT SCENE OF RR :KPU20 B SNOTIFY E : - SES Kapunda Response
Are SES trained in HLO procedures like CFS have been?
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 18, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
07:19:00 18-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0007 18/02/13 07:18 RESPOND HELICOPTER LANDING P1 TARLEE RD KAPUNDA MAP:C/207 54,CALLER:SAAS ==REQ HELICOPTER LANDING SITE AT SCENE OF RR :KPU20 B SNOTIFY E : - SES Kapunda Response
Are SES trained in HLO procedures like CFS have been?
Is watching a 15minute DVD really training?
Quote from: Alex on February 18, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 18, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
07:19:00 18-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0007 18/02/13 07:18 RESPOND HELICOPTER LANDING P1 TARLEE RD KAPUNDA MAP:C/207 54,CALLER:SAAS ==REQ HELICOPTER LANDING SITE AT SCENE OF RR :KPU20 B SNOTIFY E : - SES Kapunda Response
Are SES trained in HLO procedures like CFS have been?
Is watching a 15minute DVD really training?
From what I hear they are.
When we did out HLO training, we watched the DVD and then went out for a practical on it. It stuck much better then just watching the DVD would.
Quote from: Alex on February 18, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 18, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
07:19:00 18-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0007 18/02/13 07:18 RESPOND HELICOPTER LANDING P1 TARLEE RD KAPUNDA MAP:C/207 54,CALLER:SAAS ==REQ HELICOPTER LANDING SITE AT SCENE OF RR :KPU20 B SNOTIFY E : - SES Kapunda Response
Are SES trained in HLO procedures like CFS have been?
Is watching a 15minute DVD really training?
It's a lot better than nothing... and can be made into quite an interesting training night.
Just more uneccessary over-resourcing. Either CFS do these type of calls or SES do them, not both (my opinion only).
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 18, 2013, 07:26:47 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 18, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 18, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
07:19:00 18-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0007 18/02/13 07:18 RESPOND HELICOPTER LANDING P1 TARLEE RD KAPUNDA MAP:C/207 54,CALLER:SAAS ==REQ HELICOPTER LANDING SITE AT SCENE OF RR :KPU20 B SNOTIFY E : - SES Kapunda Response
Are SES trained in HLO procedures like CFS have been?
Is watching a 15minute DVD really training?
It's a lot better than nothing... and can be made into quite an interesting training night.
Just more uneccessary over-resourcing. Either CFS do these type of calls or SES do them, not both (my opinion only).
We're meant to be doing it again sometime soon.
I agree. No need for overkill. Also I've seen in some places 2 CFS appliances paged, and SES paged for a tree down. And that's for a P2.
I know it can't be real, but I still laughed.
10:17:19 19-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 18/02/13 15:58 RESPOND STRIKE TEAM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @TILLEY SWAMP:,MAP:C/41 54,TG 224, ==STRIKE TEAM AS ADVISED BY REGION 3 DUTY OFFICER :CDN439 : MFS Christie Downs CDN439
and this one,
19-02-13 10:43:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 18/02/13 15:58 RESPOND STRIKE TEAM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @TILLEY SWAMP:,MAP:C/41 54,TG 224, ==STRIKE TEAM AS ADVISED BY REGION 3 DUTY OFFICER :WDV243 : - MFS Woodville WDV243
Quote from: fire8029 on February 19, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
and this one,
19-02-13 10:43:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 18/02/13 15:58 RESPOND STRIKE TEAM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @TILLEY SWAMP:,MAP:C/41 54,TG 224, ==STRIKE TEAM AS ADVISED BY REGION 3 DUTY OFFICER :WDV243 : - MFS Woodville WDV243
I saw that then.
But it appears the paging feed is either broken or frozen.
Quote from: Raven on February 19, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on February 19, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
and this one,
19-02-13 10:43:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 18/02/13 15:58 RESPOND STRIKE TEAM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @TILLEY SWAMP:,MAP:C/41 54,TG 224, ==STRIKE TEAM AS ADVISED BY REGION 3 DUTY OFFICER :WDV243 : - MFS Woodville WDV243
I saw that then.
But it appears the paging feed is either broken or frozen.
Adam internet has had some major outages at it's stirling and glenunga exchanges, so the person who is hosting the feed may be affected by this. Believe it is due to some issue with Adam's backhaul provider.
So that may be why feed 1 is down?
Quote from: Skippy on February 19, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
Quote from: Raven on February 19, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on February 19, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
and this one,
19-02-13 10:43:48 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 18/02/13 15:58 RESPOND STRIKE TEAM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @TILLEY SWAMP:,MAP:C/41 54,TG 224, ==STRIKE TEAM AS ADVISED BY REGION 3 DUTY OFFICER :WDV243 : - MFS Woodville WDV243
I saw that then.
But it appears the paging feed is either broken or frozen.
Adam internet has had some major outages at it's stirling and glenunga exchanges, so the person who is hosting the feed may be affected by this. Believe it is due to some issue with Adam's backhaul provider.
So that may be why feed 1 is down?
Feed 1 appears to be working, but not feed 2.
17:38:12 19-02-13 SEAF: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR NOT TURNING UP TO HELP OUT WITH 34P THIS IS VERY POOR EFFORT FROM EVERYONE AS USUAL FROM KINGSTON STRIKE TEAM - CFS Seaford Info
Someone needs to stop this coming out of Seaford....Don't care how ya feel or if its accurate ya don't air it in public!! Very childish!!!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 19, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
17:38:12 19-02-13 SEAF: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR NOT TURNING UP TO HELP OUT WITH 34P THIS IS VERY POOR EFFORT FROM EVERYONE AS USUAL FROM KINGSTON STRIKE TEAM - CFS Seaford Info
Someone needs to stop this coming out of Seaford....Don't care how ya feel or if its accurate ya don't air it in public!! Very childish!!!
I was about to post this.
I agree, extremely childish. Whoever is doing it, should cease.
I personally am happy I never got to join Seaford seeing these recent messages, I can only imagine how the atmosphere must be down at Seaford.
24-02-13 18:51:21 BKWD INFO: Special service call - 22 blackthorn Ave Hawthorndene - medical treatment required with Oxyviva - CPT - CFS Blackwood Info
Is that normal?
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 24, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
24-02-13 18:51:21 BKWD INFO: Special service call - 22 blackthorn Ave Hawthorndene - medical treatment required with Oxyviva - CPT - CFS Blackwood Info
Is that normal?
I have never seen it myself.
I would have thought it still would have had to go through A/F.
(24-02-13 18:54:49 Stop call for special service - cpt - CFS Blackwood Info)
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 24, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
24-02-13 18:51:21 BKWD INFO: Special service call - 22 blackthorn Ave Hawthorndene - medical treatment required with Oxyviva - CPT - CFS Blackwood Info
Is that normal?
It's not completely uncommon in that area to see them doing that sort of thing.
Thankfully I noticed SAAS had responded crews to that same address approx ten minutes earlier.
Certainly seems to be outside of SOP. I presume it may have been a family member or friend though, so a bit hard not to get emotionally involved.
Quote from: Raven on February 19, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 19, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
17:38:12 19-02-13 SEAF: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR NOT TURNING UP TO HELP OUT WITH 34P THIS IS VERY POOR EFFORT FROM EVERYONE AS USUAL FROM KINGSTON STRIKE TEAM - CFS Seaford Info
Someone needs to stop this coming out of Seaford....Don't care how ya feel or if its accurate ya don't air it in public!! Very childish!!!
I was about to post this.
I agree, extremely childish. Whoever is doing it, should cease.
I personally am happy I never got to join Seaford seeing these recent messages, I can only imagine how the atmosphere must be down at Seaford.
I think it's time the pin was pulled on that brigade, which they should have done from word go, it's been a slow painful death to watch, and they really don't help themselves !!
Quote from: pumprescue on February 25, 2013, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: Raven on February 19, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 19, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
17:38:12 19-02-13 SEAF: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR NOT TURNING UP TO HELP OUT WITH 34P THIS IS VERY POOR EFFORT FROM EVERYONE AS USUAL FROM KINGSTON STRIKE TEAM - CFS Seaford Info
Someone needs to stop this coming out of Seaford....Don't care how ya feel or if its accurate ya don't air it in public!! Very childish!!!
I was about to post this.
I agree, extremely childish. Whoever is doing it, should cease.
I personally am happy I never got to join Seaford seeing these recent messages, I can only imagine how the atmosphere must be down at Seaford.
I think it's time the pin was pulled on that brigade, which they should have done from word go, it's been a slow painful death to watch, and they really don't help themselves !!
Wasn't it due to their lack of getting trucks mobile and their "stop call" antics that station 46 was brought forward?
Quote from: FAO on February 25, 2013, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: pumprescue on February 25, 2013, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: Raven on February 19, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 19, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
17:38:12 19-02-13 SEAF: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR NOT TURNING UP TO HELP OUT WITH 34P THIS IS VERY POOR EFFORT FROM EVERYONE AS USUAL FROM KINGSTON STRIKE TEAM - CFS Seaford Info
Someone needs to stop this coming out of Seaford....Don't care how ya feel or if its accurate ya don't air it in public!! Very childish!!!
I was about to post this.
I agree, extremely childish. Whoever is doing it, should cease.
I personally am happy I never got to join Seaford seeing these recent messages, I can only imagine how the atmosphere must be down at Seaford.
I think it's time the pin was pulled on that brigade, which they should have done from word go, it's been a slow painful death to watch, and they really don't help themselves !!
Wasn't it due to their lack of getting trucks mobile and their "stop call" antics that station 46 was brought forward?
I've heard rumors that the end is near for them.
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.
Quote from: pumprescue on February 25, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.
They've had RCR completely taken off them, and does Air Ops even get used operationally? Or does it collect dust?
yes i believe the brigade has used to air support, and the rcr gear was actually one of i believe 8 or so brigades that had the rcr rapid intervention, with cfs taking the stance of what it costs to maintain them, and if actual rcr coverage is needed, then a full rcr kit will be supplied, i do believe i saw a page from a brigade with a volvo pumper which did not conform to the ideals either,
Quote from: Raven on February 25, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
Quote from: pumprescue on February 25, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.
They've had RCR completely taken off them, and does Air Ops even get used operationally? Or does it collect dust?
Not completely from what I hear Raven...
Quote from: FAO on February 27, 2013, 06:06:22 AM
Quote from: Raven on February 25, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
Quote from: pumprescue on February 25, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Good, they have been given ample chances to specialize in something, do air support etc, but it's just embarrassing to watch now, CFS it's time to end the carnage.
They've had RCR completely taken off them, and does Air Ops even get used operationally? Or does it collect dust?
Not completely from what I hear Raven...
Just curious as I personally haven't seen it do much.
18:27:50 03-03-13 CONCORDIA, GAWLER MFS, LYNDOCH 24 & 34P. SAAS, ON SCENE OF MOTORBIKE ACCIDENT, SANDY CREEK. HELICOPTER LANDING BEING ORGANISED. LYNDOCH STATION - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
18:13:18 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Lyndoch Response
18:00:03 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 34P LEFT STATION FOR INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:56:39 03-03-13 LYNDOCH STATION OPEN FOR INC 74 - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:53:48 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE*:lYND34P : - CFS Lyndoch Response
17:47:55 03-03-13 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 03-03-13 17:47 - CFS Concordia Response
17:43:01 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE :CONC34 GAW359 : - CFS Concordia Response
Just a few questions, now i'm not in a bad mood or picking on any one, just curious! :lol:
How come Lyndoch responded both their appliances when only one was paged, especially when Concordia CFS & Gawler MFS were already on scene, a bit of over kill in personnel for a single MVA. I'm sure Lyndoch were aware 359 & Concordia were on scene? What is the response protocol in the CFS?
Secondly, is a page on nearly every movement really necessary?
Quote from: Hazmat206 on March 03, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
18:27:50 03-03-13 CONCORDIA, GAWLER MFS, LYNDOCH 24 & 34P. SAAS, ON SCENE OF MOTORBIKE ACCIDENT, SANDY CREEK. HELICOPTER LANDING BEING ORGANISED. LYNDOCH STATION - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
18:13:18 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Lyndoch Response
18:00:03 03-03-13 LYNDOCH 34P LEFT STATION FOR INC 74 RCR BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:56:39 03-03-13 LYNDOCH STATION OPEN FOR INC 74 - CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:53:48 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE*:lYND34P : - CFS Lyndoch Response
17:47:55 03-03-13 CONC: *CFSRES: CONCORDIA CFS RESPONDING TO INCIDENT 03-03-13 17:47 - CFS Concordia Response
17:43:01 03-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0074 03/03/13 17:42 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAROSSA VALLEY WAY SANDY CREEK,MAP:C/178D 54,TG 096, ==MOTORCYCLE VS TREE. TREE BLOCKING ROAD. OFF DUTY SAPOL ON SCENE :CONC34 GAW359 : - CFS Concordia Response
Just a few questions, now i'm not in a bad mood or picking on any one, just curious! :lol:
How come Lyndoch responded both their appliances when only one was paged, especially when Concordia CFS & Gawler MFS were already on scene, a bit of over kill in personnel for a single MVA. I'm sure Lyndoch were aware 359 & Concordia were on scene? What is the response protocol in the CFS?
Secondly, is a page on nearly every movement really necessary?
I've seen Lyndoch sending both appliances to tree downs.
And I was going to post about this, what's the point on paging things like that?
16:17:11 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P & BAROSSA LOGISTICS CAR HAVE RESPONDED TO RCR ANGAS VALLEY RD SANDERSON,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
16:29:46 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P SITREP,MT PLEASANT 24P, BAROSSA LOGISTICS CAR,SAPOL,SAAS & HELICOPTER ON SCENE,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:13:42 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P SITREP,HELICOPTER WITH PATEINT ON BOARD HAS LEFT THE SCENE. LOGISTICS CAR & MT PLEASANT 24P HAVE LEFT THE SCENE & RETURNUNG TO STATION,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
17:23:12 03-03-13 MT PLEASANT 24P SITREP SAPOL STILL ON SCENE AWAITING TOW TRUCK. MT PLEASANT 24P & BAROSSA LOGISTICS CAR BACK AT STAION ,MARY CFS Mount Pleasant Response, CFS Barossa Group Officers Response
Welcome to Barossa Group
Stats maybe?
I was refering to how many times an appliance is used for the sake of keeping it and the viability of having the CFS in an area.
http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html (http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html)
Quote from: flyonthewall on March 04, 2013, 02:22:06 PM
I was refering to how many times an appliance is used for the sake of keeping it and the viability of having the CFS in an area.
http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html (http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html)
Makes sense.
But keeping statistics like that... Really? It's a little sad.
QuoteQuote from: flyonthewall on Today at 08:52:06 AM
I was refering to how many times an appliance is used for the sake of keeping it and the viability of having the CFS in an area.
http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html (http://www.lyndochcfs.com.au/members/incident%20statistics.html)
Makes sense.
But keeping statistics like that... Really? It's a little sad.
The stats on their website look pretty 'normal' to me...
Although I am not in CFS, I think that their data is great for raising the professional profile of both the organisation as well as a sound recruitment tool..
(I do wonder about all of the info pages that are sent, but if the recipients dont mind receiving them AND they have a resource to send them AND the messages add value to the role that CFS is undeetaking during the incident AND they aren't in breach of any policy, procedure and protocol - then meh what does it matter..!!! lol) 8-) :lol: :lol:
Maybe I am missing something here..???
Cheers
Shane
And more...
05-03-13 14:59:51 w/t 24p and lynd 34p responded to inc 0051 THANKS : BAROSSA CONTROL 5/03/2013 2:42:45 PM - CFS Williamstown Info
No need to post them all. They do it for every call they have.
Theyve been criticised previously for how ridiculous it is. If the brigade members and Groupies need to know they should monitor GRN voice.
I personally would have a fit about it.
Do they use the apprpriate K codes and radio sitreps or is it all paged?
Not to mention they self respond to calls in other brigade areas
Being ex member of the Barossa Group I have some inside understanding.
The brigades have been requested to page to the groupies when mobile and when back in station, and most brigades there page when station closing.
The pages for mobile I found as a member helpful. If I was a distance away as was heading there for the callout and was told both appliances had left then there is no need for me to 'rush' to the station, instead I could make other stops as neccesary.
Same for paging back, no need to drop past station to see if needed.
All the rest always seemed a waste of time, energy, batteries, patience, etc.
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
I would have thought it should be MFS only going to these.
Quote from: Darius on March 07, 2013, 07:13:38 AM
I would have thought it should be MFS only going to these.
If it was in MFS area, then yes, but it is about 3km west of the MFS/CFS Boundary between Elizabeth/Virginia, and the Northern side of the expressway at that interchange is Dalkeith.
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Funny, I suggested just that - get a drip torch, and burn it all, but then you have to wonder if the numpty lighting it would just find somewhere else that would get a way a whole lot easier. At least these are contained by bitumen (in most cases).
MrT
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Looks like someone didnt get the message:
14:02:29 07-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331
That was 3 minutes after Virginia were called.
Quote from: MrT on March 07, 2013, 12:58:47 PM
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Looks like someone didnt get the message:
14:02:29 07-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331
Called in and requested a stop on themselves, and a response from MFS.
Quote from: Alex on March 07, 2013, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: MrT on March 07, 2013, 12:58:47 PM
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Looks like someone didnt get the message:
14:02:29 07-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331
Called in and requested a stop on themselves, and a response from MFS.
Like I said, looks like someone didnt get the message (VIRG!)
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Quote from: MrT on March 07, 2013, 09:02:33 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 07, 2013, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: MrT on March 07, 2013, 12:58:47 PM
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Looks like someone didnt get the message:
14:02:29 07-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331
Called in and requested a stop on themselves, and a response from MFS.
Like I said, looks like someone didnt get the message (VIRG!)
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Yes. I can read. Was just explaining how/why the default.
Quote from: Alex on March 08, 2013, 05:10:55 AM
Yes. I can read. Was just explaining how/why the default.
Not having a go at you Alex, just at Virginia.
Sounds to me like they are telling their GO and DGO's they will respond, but not following through
Not from here but in Victoria:
@@ALERT F130302655 198 INCIC1 ASSIST AV ON SCENE WITH MALE WHO HAS INGESTED POISON IN QUARANTINE MELBOURNE AIRPORT - VIC UNKNOWN - MELBOURNE AIRPORT M 5 B5 (105285) BA38 CBULL CU1 HZ38 KLEI MCAR P38A [BULL]
Quote from: MrT on March 07, 2013, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Funny, I suggested just that - get a drip torch, and burn it all, but then you have to wonder if the numpty lighting it would just find somewhere else that would get a way a whole lot easier. At least these are contained by bitumen (in most cases).
MrT
One of the fires jumped the road and burnt out about 5 or so hectares not long ago.
I just saw this...
12:11:20 09-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0042 09/03/13 12:10 RESPOND DOMESTIC GAS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 17 SEYMOUR AV MASLIN BEACH,MAP:ADL 215 L 3,TG 182, ==9KG BBQ CYLINDER, :CDN431 SEA469 SEAF34P : MFS Christie Downs Station, MFS Seaford Response, CFS Seaford Response, MFS Christie Downs CDN431, CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
I personally would think that Aldinga Beach 34P would be closer than Christie Downs 431.
And then last night...
20:41:44 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :AIRDESK OHH421 SEA469 : MFS Seaford Response, MFS OHalloran Hill Station, MFS OHalloran Hill OHH421
20:43:53 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :CDN439 : MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Would've thought Seaford CFS'd be close....
Quote20:41:44 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :AIRDESK OHH421 SEA469 : MFS Seaford Response, MFS OHalloran Hill Station, MFS OHalloran Hill OHH421
20:43:53 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :CDN439 : MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Would've thought Seaford CFS'd be close....
Hmmmm...... a service that MIGHT turn up or a service that WILL turn up.
Quote from: safireservice on March 09, 2013, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: MrT on March 07, 2013, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: safireservice on March 06, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on March 06, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
Wonder what DPTI are doing...?
06-03-13 19:56:53
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.
Funny, I suggested just that - get a drip torch, and burn it all, but then you have to wonder if the numpty lighting it would just find somewhere else that would get a way a whole lot easier. At least these are contained by bitumen (in most cases).
MrT
One of the fires jumped the road and burnt out about 5 or so hectares not long ago.
Yes, seen it, and why I wrote 'in most cases'
Quote from: flyonthewall on March 09, 2013, 07:43:26 PM
Quote20:41:44 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :AIRDESK OHH421 SEA469 : MFS Seaford Response, MFS OHalloran Hill Station, MFS OHalloran Hill OHH421
20:43:53 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :CDN439 : MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Would've thought Seaford CFS'd be close....
Hmmmm...... a service that MIGHT turn up or a service that WILL turn up.
Good point, yes. But shouldn't they still be paged for a Grass Fire, in their area? Isn't that the main thing CFS do?
Quote from: Raven on March 09, 2013, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: flyonthewall on March 09, 2013, 07:43:26 PM
Quote20:41:44 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :AIRDESK OHH421 SEA469 : MFS Seaford Response, MFS OHalloran Hill Station, MFS OHalloran Hill OHH421
20:43:53 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :CDN439 : MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Would've thought Seaford CFS'd be close....
Hmmmm...... a service that MIGHT turn up or a service that WILL turn up.
Good point, yes. But shouldn't they still be paged for a Grass Fire, in their area? Isn't that the main thing CFS do?
It's not their area. It's MFS area.
10-03-13 15:05:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0062 10/03/13 15:04 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HORROCKS HWY ROSEWORTHY,MAP:C/178C 54,TG 100, == JUST PAST SERVO ON LEFT HAND SIDE HEADING NORTH :AIRDESK GAW359 ROSE34P : - MFS Gawler Station
Why would the MFS be responded out there when roseworthy have two appliances??
24P was offline, but is back online now
08:46:59 11-03-13 *CFSRES : Yankalilla respond tree down : Opposite Bungala Rural. blocking half road. Phil Richards in attendance until crews arrive :FROM Duty Officer 8:46:26 AM SES RO, SES Unit Yankalilla
12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info
Quote from: fire8029 on March 12, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info
And that is how you end up with your appliance being defaulted.
paging2 must have the wrong code assigned to aldinga. paging1 showed up correct
Quote from: vsteve01 on March 12, 2013, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on March 12, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info
And that is how you end up with your appliance being defaulted.
paging2 must have the wrong code assigned to aldinga. paging1 showed up correct
At Sellicks, not far from Aldinga, we've been told by Kyeema Group to respond in what seems appropriate, as A/F have messed up before.
Quote from: Raven on March 12, 2013, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: vsteve01 on March 12, 2013, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on March 12, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info
And that is how you end up with your appliance being defaulted.
paging2 must have the wrong code assigned to aldinga. paging1 showed up correct
At Sellicks, not far from Aldinga, we've been told by Kyeema Group to respond in what seems appropriate, as A/F have messed up before.
Mr Raven.
Do not confuse yourself or others.
Adelaide Fire has not "messed up".
Adelaide Fire has sent the response as per the SACAD data entered.
Please seek out accurate information before posting.
Thanks
I would say the correct action would be to ask AF to add the correct resource and to stop the other.
**
Lucky it didn't go earlier
FS: *CFSRES INC0078 12/03/13 15:36 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PRIDHAM BLVD/PERIWINKLE DR ALDINGA BEACH,MAP:ADL 223 M 5,TG 132, ==GRASS FIRE, SECONDHAND CALL FROM SAPOL :AIRDESK ALDB24 MCLV24P WLLG24P H WLLG34 : - CFS Aldinga Response
:D
Quote from: Alex on March 12, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: Raven on March 12, 2013, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: vsteve01 on March 12, 2013, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on March 12, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info
And that is how you end up with your appliance being defaulted.
paging2 must have the wrong code assigned to aldinga. paging1 showed up correct
At Sellicks, not far from Aldinga, we've been told by Kyeema Group to respond in what seems appropriate, as A/F have messed up before.
Mr Raven.
Do not confuse yourself or others.
Adelaide Fire has not "messed up".
Adelaide Fire has sent the response as per the SACAD data entered.
Please seek out accurate information before posting.
Thanks
I was merely stating what our Group Officer has told us. We have been told to respond in the appliance we think is appropriate.
Quote from: Alex on March 12, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: Raven on March 12, 2013, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: vsteve01 on March 12, 2013, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on March 12, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info
And that is how you end up with your appliance being defaulted.
paging2 must have the wrong code assigned to aldinga. paging1 showed up correct
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At Sellicks, not far from Aldinga, we've been told by Kyeema Group to respond in what seems appropriate, as A/F have messed up before.
Mr Raven.
Do not confuse yourself or others.
Adelaide Fire has not "messed up".
Adelaide Fire has sent the response as per the SACAD data entered.
Please seek out accurate information before posting.
Thanks
EXACTLY...I went over our brigades response data with neighbouring brigades before entry into SACAD to make sure it was correct. unsure if your brigade did the same RAVEN if not I'd be asking why the brigade didn't ave the opportunity!
Surprise surprise our group has no issues....what is the saying...Proper Preparation prevents p*ss poor performance!!
Unless the job is for a specialist resource such as RCR or Hazmat etc then SACAD will pick the truck that has been K5 the longest, if its a rural fire and you have a 34P and a 24 and the 34P has been "online" the longest then that truck is the one that will be picked..
Hence why brigades definitely should be taking the appliance they deem appropriate UNLESS that resource has been specifically requested for the job.
I think this is pretty much correct but am happy to be proven otherwise. anyone from AF care to add or change the above??
Might as well send everything you've got then people!
Quote from: flyonthewall on March 14, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
Might as well send everything you've got then people!
A certain Brigade near me that I won't name, have done this, and still do.
15-03-13 21:18:32 TO ALL MEMBERS - VERY POOR TURNOUT BY BRIGADE MEMBERS TO THIS JEFFERIES JOB. IM NOT IMPRESSED. CAPT. - CFS Virginia Info
#fridaynight #peoplehavelivesoutsidecfs #therestomuchofthisgoingoverpagers #getagrip #maybeoveritafterwommaroaddebacle #thatsmyrant
Oh please not hashtags here aswell! :wink:
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on March 15, 2013, 07:55:14 PM
15-03-13 21:18:32 TO ALL MEMBERS - VERY POOR TURNOUT BY BRIGADE MEMBERS TO THIS JEFFERIES JOB. IM NOT IMPRESSED. CAPT. - CFS Virginia Info
Nothing wrong with defaulting occasionally - that's why we have the systems we do to allow for it - just do it early, don't keep waiting another couple of minutes just in case someone else turns up.........
Then express your dissatisfaction at training or a brigade meeting NOT on the paging system!
Quote from: crossy on March 15, 2013, 08:07:44 PM
Oh please not hashtags here aswell! :wink:
All for a laugh n something different....can't seem to get a like button so hash tags is next best option haha
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on March 15, 2013, 07:55:14 PM
15-03-13 21:18:32 TO ALL MEMBERS - VERY POOR TURNOUT BY BRIGADE MEMBERS TO THIS JEFFERIES JOB. IM NOT IMPRESSED. CAPT. - CFS Virginia Info
#fridaynight #peoplehavelivesoutsidecfs #therestomuchofthisgoingoverpagers #getagrip #maybeoveritafterwommaroaddebacle #thatsmyrant
Didn't they already have 1 crew out with a strike team to Tunkillo already. That and being a Friday night, I think this comment may be a little over the top.
saw this, what the
MFS: *CFSRES INC0038 16/03/13 09:13 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @OAKBANK RACECOURSE 46 OAKWOOD RD OAKBANK,MAP:ADL 148 F 1,TG 140, ==ON STADBY AT RACECOURSE UNTIL 17:00HRS 16/3/13 : :
MFS St Marys Station
Nothing wrong with defaulting occasionally - that's why we have the systems we do to allow for it - just do it early, don't keep waiting another couple of minutes just in case someone else turns up.........
Are you kidding???
Ask someone whose house is alight if its ok to wait another 10 mins for the next brigade to just get mobile, and considering they will be coming from further as well!!!
The response time will likely be about 25 mins, in that time a structure fire will progress from "incipient to CARPARK"
Then theres always the question of adequate BA resourses!!! Pity the poor filtered inside!!!
Yeah another great save, NOT.
Perhaps that person who's house might be alight at some point in the future should be thinking about rocking up to their local brigade and becoming a member so that there is a better chance of a truck getting out of the door?
Some rural brigades only have enough active members to fill one truck - what if they are already out on another call? What if they have just got back from 12-hours on another job - would you want them to risk their fatigued body and mind by going to another job?
It is easy to take a single viewpoint and make a case that stands up but try looking outside the square.
As for sufficient BA - have you heard or seen of the new Defensive Fire Suppression course - even the system is recognising that it is more likely now that the first arriving appliance (whether the local brigade or not) will be unable to provide any useful service to the burning structure but may be able to protect surrounding assets etc.
Nobody wants to see a house burn down but neither are we always able to respond or turn out a crew from the local station and as I said in my original post, that's why we have systems to deal with that but it depends on how those systems are used.
QuoteAs for sufficient BA - have you heard or seen of the new Defensive Fire Suppression course - even the system is recognising that it is more likely now that the first arriving appliance (whether the local brigade or not) will be unable to provide any useful service to the burning structure but may be able to protect surrounding assets etc.
New defensive fire suppression course - you are joking aren't you?
The system is recognising that the first arrival appliance is useless and is only good for protecting assets - Is this because it took so long for a truck to get there?
This must be based on CFS stats.
Am I serious - yes I am deadly serious.
I don't know what part of the state you chaps are from but where I am, we have farmhouses with driveways that take 10 minutes to get from the road to the house, never mind the travel from the fire shed to the gate. We have trucks that carry 2 BA sets - even if you have got 2 operators, you can't send them in, who will back them up?
We have brigades that may not have been to a structure fire for many years (if ever), we have many trucks with no BA sets or operators even if they had the sets.
Isn't it a good idea to prepare them and give them some thinking material on what to do when they arrive even if it is in prep for following crews?
Or should we stick our head in the sand and think that all brigades will respond in a timely manner with 4 or 6 BA operators (and sets!)??
I don't see any suggestions in either of the posts in reply to mine - let's hear your ideas that's the whole point of a forum isn't it??????
Shiner,
I understand your point.
I do not have anything to do with the CFS other than working WITH the crews at incidents. I do not have a problem with the CFS personnel that I work with.
The CFS as a whole organisation wants to promote themselves as a professional emergency service. Some people should be diciplined for putting messages on the paging system -
which is available to everyone for their viewing pleasure - whenever they have an issue. Mr Joe Public who see's a message that reads................
Quote15-03-13 21:18:32 TO ALL MEMBERS - VERY POOR TURNOUT BY BRIGADE MEMBERS TO THIS JEFFERIES JOB. IM NOT IMPRESSED. CAPT. - CFS Virginia Info
or...........
Quote17:38:12 19-02-13 SEAF: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR NOT TURNING UP TO HELP OUT WITH 34P THIS IS VERY POOR EFFORT FROM EVERYONE AS USUAL FROM KINGSTON STRIKE TEAM - CFS Seaford Info
or...........
Quote
21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? - CFS Burnside Info
21:23:32 14-02-13 BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY filtered CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info
......will get the idea of what kind of emergency service is looking after their community.
This is not a dig at you but as someone who is looking in (myself), it looks as though the CFS is a circus.
......will get the idea of what kind of emergency service is looking after their community
And the fact that urban fringe dwellers get pretty poor value for money (from their) ESL, compared to their Metropolitan counterparts, who pay similar amounts.
Wonder how many of "Joe Public" realise that CFS Brigades have no "Offensive Attack" abilities in a large number of Regions? And that should the unthinkable happen, there may be no one ABLE to help on the way.
Calling yourself professional dosent mean your actually capable.
Quote from: muscleandpluck on March 22, 2013, 12:27:36 PM
......will get the idea of what kind of emergency service is looking after their community
And the fact that urban fringe dwellers get pretty poor value for money (from their) ESL, compared to their Metropolitan counterparts, who pay similar amounts.
Wonder how many of "Joe Public" realise that CFS Brigades have no "Offensive Attack" abilities in a large number of Regions? And that should the unthinkable happen, there may be no one ABLE to help on the way.
Calling yourself professional dosent mean your actually capable.
conversely they could draw the conclusion that they get great value for money because should the most likely catastrophic incident in their area occur (ie a bushfire) up to (in my case) 137 firefighters are available with pagers to respond and get 13 appliances (+ 3 command cars)to a scene within a 6km radius of the centre of the group. Now they may not all be BA qualified, they may not all be highly profficient, they may not all drive automatic trucks, and they may not all prostitute themselves publically for a calendar launch......but in the far majority of cases, they are safe, efficient and professional. Compare the numbers to a metro incident, where that number of appliances empties 2/3rds of the MFS stations and leaves the MFS unable to mount another 3rd alarm response in many cases - unless (as always the CFS fills them with COQs). All that, and the ESL payers in the Groups either side of me get exactly the same response as well....they too would appear similarly blessed. Perhaps the taxpayers in the suburb with the $9mil car park should ask why they get such a crappy return for the $$
So Muscle, maybe tonight as you sit on the rower at work before your all night in.....you might like to think about moving to the Hills and getting the benefit of CFS coverage in such outstanding numbers, and even better, you might care to join up as give the community the benefit of your expertise and help the CFS Brigaeds in your area improve their skills and expertise......but then of course, for some its just a job too isnt it.
Spoken with true ignorance. Sad that chip on your shoulder is weighing you down so badly.
Why dont you visit SAMFS Headquaters and become enlightened.
:-D
Quote from: muscleandpluck on March 22, 2013, 05:33:48 PM
Spoken with true ignorance. Sad that chip on your shoulder is weighing you down so badly.
Why dont you visit SAMFS Headquaters and become enlightened.
:-D
been there....worked there, and I have chips on both so I have a very balanced view thanks.....why dont you try working on a strike team one day without pay, we could discuss points of mutual ignornace over a spam sandwich
Muscleandpluck, how long have you been in the MFS?
We need the CFS & the CFS need us. Don't forget we do get CFS to cover our quarters when large incidents are going E.G Burnside at station 20 & Dalkeith to Elizabeth & Tea Tree Gully to Golden Grove...........
Also we are not allowed to take the trucks off road, this is where the CFS are great assistance.
So don't give the MFS a bad reputation & the CFS disrespect, we are both a fire/emergency service
Thank You
muscle, don't get sucked into the us versus them/them vs us argument mate. It will just turn into a shyte fight.
Some people take offence to opinions other than theirs and most would do anything to have your job, just remember that. :-)
I thought this thread was for 'Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging', not about Response's and all of that crap. :wink:
Quoteconversely they could draw the conclusion that they get great value for money because should the most likely catastrophic incident in their area occur (ie a bushfire) up to (in my case) 137 firefighters are available with pagers to respond and get 13 appliances (+ 3 command cars)to a scene within a 6km radius of the centre of the group. Now they may not all be BA qualified, they may not all be highly profficient, they may not all drive automatic trucks, and they may not all prostitute themselves publically for a calendar launch......but in the far majority of cases, they are safe, efficient and professional. Compare the numbers to a metro incident, where that number of appliances empties 2/3rds of the MFS stations and leaves the MFS unable to mount another 3rd alarm response in many cases - unless (as always the CFS fills them with COQs). All that, and the ESL payers in the Groups either side of me get exactly the same response as well....they too would appear similarly blessed. Perhaps the taxpayers in the suburb with the $9mil car park should ask why they get such a crappy return for the $$
Yes you are correct misterteddy .......... in a country environment . Nothing wrong with the CFS response in a bushfire situation with acres of grass and trees burning. Yes, I know.... there are houses and buildings that can be involved also and I'm sure the CFS can look after itself.
Bring an urban environment into it and it is a completely different kettle of fish. Domestic dwelling next to domestic dwelling next to domestic dwelling....
guess what, in semi urban environment, MFS strike team for asset protection.
2/3 rds of the MFS appliances are sent to a major fire and the CFS does COQ. How many are CFS are urban qualified crews? How many CFS trucks are urban pumping capable? How many CFS trucks can Boost? How many MFS trucks can go off road? How many MFS trucks have pump and roll capability? How many MFS trucks have burn over protection?
Neither service can compare itself to the other? We all have our specialties and CFS is predominantly for country services and MFS is predominantly for metropolitan services. Where we meet on a boundary, I think we work well together(most of the time). In my experience, out North, there is a lot of this is ours and that is yours, and east, I have interestingly found co-operative service between the two.
I am sick of the Them and Us attitude as I'm sure most are so lets get back to our core business of providing emergency assistance to the people of SA, be it in a White truck or a Red truck, paid or not.
26-03-13 20:15:19 R5HQ - GO AND DGO URGENT OPERATIONAL INFORMATION - 2 X STRIKE TEAMS REQUIRED FOR ROCKLEIGH FIRE (MURRAY BRIDGE) TO BE AT MURRAY BRIDGE AT 0700 TOMORROW MORNING. INCLUDING 2 X STL, DRIVER , SCRIBE AND COMMAND VEHICLES. CONTACT R5HQ 87620044 ASAP - CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Info
26-03-13 21:03:00 FYI: PREV REQUESTED STRIKE TEAMS HAVE BEEN STOOD DOWN BY THE STATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE. RDO - CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Info
Another example of why strike team crews are hard to get. I think you can understand when a strike team within your own region gets asked for than cancelled within the hour but an intra region strike team I personally think its not up to scratch.
Surely activating a intra region strike team is not a split second decision and proper planning and thought would be given to this??
Or was this instance a split second decision as I did notice one of the "highly trained" level 3 IMT's have hold of this job :roll:
27-03-13 12:40:43 SLSB 24P MOBILE P1 WITH CREW OF 4 TO ROCKLEGH FIRE.ALL OTHER MEMBERS PLS RESPOND TO ANY OTHER CALLS AS WE ARE NOW RUNNING VERY SHORT OF FRESH CREW.LT 2 - CFS Salisbury Info
Bit rough? Only got home this morning... Maybe those R5 strike teams would have been handy :wink:
A tad dodgy calling a strike team from a group that only just arrived home an hour before hand, there are plenty of other groups out there they could have used..
If its p1 I'm guessing they wanted relatively nearby crews in a hurry.
Anyone know what's actually going on out there?
Quote from: Alex on March 27, 2013, 01:42:14 PM
If its p1 I'm guessing they wanted relatively nearby crews in a hurry.
Anyone know what's actually going on out there?
There was dust to 2500 feet which meant Bombers could not operate, combined with 90 k/mh winds on the fire-ground and flareups it was heavy work for all crews.
I thought there was a policy that once you had been on a Strike Team deployment you were off for 48 hours due to fatigue?
04-04-13 10:24:01 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 04/04/13 10:23 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MOBILONG PRISON #072/016 434 MAURICE RD MURRAY BRIDGE,MAP:ADL 349 E 6,TG 206, ==INPUT DESC - FIP INSIDE SOUTH-EAST ENTRY :MBR722 MURRPUMP H : - CFS Murray Bridge Response
04-04-13 10:35:04 MORE CREW AND DRIVER REQUIRED AT MURRAY BRIDGE STATION. - CFS Murray Bridge Response
04-04-13 10:44:09 STILL WAITING FOR DRIVER AND CREW TO RESPOND TO MURRAY BRIDGE STATION - CFS Murray Bridge Response
Should have defaulted by then i would have thought?
Quote from: fire8029 on April 04, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
04-04-13 10:24:01 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 04/04/13 10:23 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MOBILONG PRISON #072/016 434 MAURICE RD MURRAY BRIDGE,MAP:ADL 349 E 6,TG 206, ==INPUT DESC - FIP INSIDE SOUTH-EAST ENTRY :MBR722 MURRPUMP H : - CFS Murray Bridge Response
04-04-13 10:35:04 MORE CREW AND DRIVER REQUIRED AT MURRAY BRIDGE STATION. - CFS Murray Bridge Response
04-04-13 10:44:09 STILL WAITING FOR DRIVER AND CREW TO RESPOND TO MURRAY BRIDGE STATION - CFS Murray Bridge Response
Should have defaulted by then i would have thought?
You'd think so.
brigades dont care, and groups wont police it.
Alex - I was under the impression that SACAD had been programmed to default if they had not gone mobile after a specified time delay? Is this the case or have I been wrongly informed? If this is the case how do a brigade get away with something like the above example?
Cheers
There are still no automatic defaults unfortunately.
Adelaide fire are charged with getting an acknowledgement, including phoning ALERTS, after that the onus is on the brigades to manage themselves.
Some do it well....
SACAD was suppossed to do a lot of things.
Quote from: safireservice on April 05, 2013, 12:26:37 PM
SACAD was suppossed to do a lot of things.
InterCAD will fix it.
Quote from: safireservice on April 05, 2013, 12:26:37 PM
SACAD was suppossed to do a lot of things.
But how can SACAD control human intervention?
Fix the SOPs and then police them!!!!
I don't know why, but it still amazes me that the CFS does not seem to operate as a whole service but a service in which each induvidual brigade does what it wants, how it wants and when it wants.
It wouldn't be a fire season if we didn't see at least one of these. :-D
MFS: *CFSRES INC0130 05/04/13 23:52 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @BELAIR NATIONAL PARK UPPER STURT RD BELAIR,MAP:ADL 143 M16,TG 146, == BURNOFF IN NP JUMPED CONTAINMENT LINES. == CONTACT CLELND ON 124 FOR DETAILS == RESPOND GATE 20 :STRL24 UPST24
Quote from: Yossarian on April 06, 2013, 05:00:25 AM
It wouldn't be a fire season if we didn't see at least one of these. :-D
MFS: *CFSRES INC0130 05/04/13 23:52 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @BELAIR NATIONAL PARK UPPER STURT RD BELAIR,MAP:ADL 143 M16,TG 146, == BURNOFF IN NP JUMPED CONTAINMENT LINES. == CONTACT CLELND ON 124 FOR DETAILS == RESPOND GATE 20 :STRL24 UPST24
06-04-13 16:42:53 MFS: *CFSRES INC0070 06/04/13 16:42 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PROPER BAY RD SLEAFORD,MAP:C/134 53,TG 014, == BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL ASSIST IN SA WATER LAND :GRNP24 : - CFS Lower Eyre Peninsula Gp Officers re
.......... Yep.
11-04-13 09:24:56 MFS: *CFSRES INC0044 11/04/13 09:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HARRIS RD/MARTIN RD CONCORDIA,MAP:ADL 24 E 5,TG 096, ==GRASS FIRE, FLAMES AND SMOKE REPORTED :AIRDESK CONC34 ELZ331 GAW359 : - MFS Gawler Station
11-04-13 09:34:39 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING TO INC 044, MARTIN/HARRIS RD GAWLER. WAYNE 0423144219 - CFS Lyndoch Response
Quote from: fire8029 on April 11, 2013, 09:08:23 AM
11-04-13 09:24:56 MFS: *CFSRES INC0044 11/04/13 09:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HARRIS RD/MARTIN RD CONCORDIA,MAP:ADL 24 E 5,TG 096, ==GRASS FIRE, FLAMES AND SMOKE REPORTED :AIRDESK CONC34 ELZ331 GAW359 : - MFS Gawler Station
11-04-13 09:34:39 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING TO INC 044, MARTIN/HARRIS RD GAWLER. WAYNE 0423144219 - CFS Lyndoch Response
What. The. F##k?
Quote from: Raven on April 11, 2013, 11:18:53 AM
Quote from: fire8029 on April 11, 2013, 09:08:23 AM
11-04-13 09:24:56 MFS: *CFSRES INC0044 11/04/13 09:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HARRIS RD/MARTIN RD CONCORDIA,MAP:ADL 24 E 5,TG 096, ==GRASS FIRE, FLAMES AND SMOKE REPORTED :AIRDESK CONC34 ELZ331 GAW359 : - MFS Gawler Station
11-04-13 09:34:39 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING TO INC 044, MARTIN/HARRIS RD GAWLER. WAYNE 0423144219 - CFS Lyndoch Response
What. The. F##k?
Maybe because they had just completed a call, which they had. What the F**K should be why Elizabeth were responded when there are closer appliances??? SACAD at its best.
Quote from: safireservice on April 11, 2013, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: Raven on April 11, 2013, 11:18:53 AM
Quote from: fire8029 on April 11, 2013, 09:08:23 AM
11-04-13 09:24:56 MFS: *CFSRES INC0044 11/04/13 09:24 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HARRIS RD/MARTIN RD CONCORDIA,MAP:ADL 24 E 5,TG 096, ==GRASS FIRE, FLAMES AND SMOKE REPORTED :AIRDESK CONC34 ELZ331 GAW359 : - MFS Gawler Station
11-04-13 09:34:39 LYNDOCH 24 RESPONDING TO INC 044, MARTIN/HARRIS RD GAWLER. WAYNE 0423144219 - CFS Lyndoch Response
What. The. F##k?
Maybe because they had just completed a call, which they had. What the F**K should be why Elizabeth were responded when there are closer appliances??? SACAD at its best.
I wasn't aware they'd just finished a call, I only saw what was posted here, thus my reaction.
MFS:*CFSRES INC0025 14/04/13 08:14 RESPOND RESCUE ANIMAL, ALARM LEVEL:1, : PRIORITY TWO, 329 PORTRUSH RD TOORAK GARDENS,MAP:ADL 119 F12,TG 182, ==PRIORITY 2, KOALA UP TREE,WHAT THE !!!! LADDER REQUIRED :CAR40 : - MFS Car 41
Unfortunately one firefighter has fallen at this job and taken to hospital by ambulance.
Wish a speedy recovery :(
08:40:58 22-04-13 BKCR APPLIANCE WILL BE HOUSED AT JOHN MITCHELMORE'S PROPERTY UNTIL THE END OF MAY. FROM BKCR
CFS Blackfellows Creek Info
12:51:49 22-04-13 From Reg 3 DO - there is a planned State-wide SAGRN paging outage on Wednesday24/04/2013, 01:00 - 03:30 hrs. check your email for more detail. Contact R3 Ops 8311 311 to confirm receipt of this message Thanks, RO Patten.
CFS Ridley Group Officers Info, CFS Swanport Gp Officers Info, CFS Mid Murray Group Officers Info , CFS Mallee Group Officers Info, CFS Coorong Group Officers Info, CFS Chaffey Gp Officers Info
Think the first one is for Station work to house a new appliance.
Quote from: vsteve01 on April 22, 2013, 01:25:53 PM
Think the first one is for Station work to house a new appliance.
Correct. Blackfellows Creek station is undergoing modifications in order to fit a new appliance.
16:06:22 27-04-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0077 27/04/13 16:06 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 17 WILKINS ST ELIZABETH DOWNS,MAP:ADL 52 F 5,TG 182, == CAR FIRE ON THE STREET. :ELZ331 ELZ339 : - MFS Elizabeth Turnout
Then later on......
18:09:20 27-04-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 27/04/13 18:09 RESPOND STRUCTURE SHED, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 17 WILKINS ST ELIZABETH DOWNS,MAP:ADL 52 F 5,TG 182, ==SHED ON FIRE NEAR CARAVAN :ELZ331 ELZ339 : - MFS Elizabeth Turnout
Lizbef.....
Nuff said.
Quote from: Alex on April 27, 2013, 08:47:21 PM
Lizbef.....
Nuff said.
My first thought exactly :lol:
Learn how to spell guys, Lizbef has two f's :-o
Lizbeff
i was always taught it had 3 f's
09-05-13 22:23:38 Crew required for strike team tomorrow for Cherryville fire, 12hr shift, to be @ Lenswood oval for breakfast by 0700. Contact Conc Captn **********0 if available - CFS Concordia Info
2230 hrs and still trying organise strike teams for day shift the fire has been going since 1430 hours....POOR management
No wonder they can hardly fill a strike team these days!!
10-05-13 15:17:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE ==RESPOND PRI TWO - CONTACT SAL321 :SAL329 : - MFS Salisbury SAL329
Found it interesting to responde two appliances priority 2 to this job.
Quote from: fire8029 on May 10, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
10-05-13 15:17:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE ==RESPOND PRI TWO - CONTACT SAL321 :SAL329 : - MFS Salisbury SAL329
Found it interesting to responde two appliances priority 2 to this job.
15:03:29 10-05-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE :OAK302 SAL321 : MFS Salisbury SAL321, MFS Salisbury Station, MFS Oakden OAK303
Quote from: Raven on May 10, 2013, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on May 10, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
10-05-13 15:17:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE ==RESPOND PRI TWO - CONTACT SAL321 :SAL329 : - MFS Salisbury SAL329
Found it interesting to responde two appliances priority 2 to this job.
15:03:29 10-05-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE :OAK302 SAL321 : MFS Salisbury SAL321, MFS Salisbury Station, MFS Oakden OAK303
Missed that part.
Quote from: fire8029 on May 10, 2013, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: Raven on May 10, 2013, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on May 10, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
10-05-13 15:17:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE ==RESPOND PRI TWO - CONTACT SAL321 :SAL329 : - MFS Salisbury SAL329
Found it interesting to responde two appliances priority 2 to this job.
15:03:29 10-05-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE :OAK302 SAL321 : MFS Salisbury SAL321, MFS Salisbury Station, MFS Oakden OAK303
Missed that part.
1st alarm c-risk sent. 321, 302.
329 responded p2 for equipment.
Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3600 on: Yesterday at 02:58:06 PM »
09-05-13 22:23:38 Crew required for strike team tomorrow for Cherryville fire, 12hr shift, to be @ Lenswood oval for breakfast by 0700. Contact Conc Captn **********0 if available - CFS Concordia Info
2230 hrs and still trying organise strike teams for day shift the fire has been going since 1430 hours....POOR management
No wonder they can hardly fill a strike team these days!!
At least they got a page asking. R1 put page out about 12.15 today asking for relief numbers
The new Mundoo group people didn't even put a page out asking for any one. Wouldn't have happened with the previous group people. If R1 asked they put page out to whole group. Pissed a couple of captains off but at least they asked the members.
Down here we don't even get a chance to have a go. I think that's poor management at group level.
Quote from: First response on May 10, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
At least they got a page asking. R1 put page out about 12.15 today asking for relief numbers
The new Mundoo group people didn't even put a page out asking for any one. Wouldn't have happened with the previous group people. If R1 asked they put page out to whole group. Pissed a couple of captains off but at least they asked the members.
Down here we don't even get a chance to have a go. I think that's poor management at group level.
First response, the previous group people are gone, there is a good reason for that, they couldnt stand up and take responsibility for their actions they preferred to blame everyone else, and from that the new mundoo group officers now have substantial rebuilding to do for our group name which is now Mud because of previous done deeds....
Captains were asked about putting people forward again, no this wasnt done via pager it was done via phone.
If you are going to continually have an anonymous snipe on a public forum at this group and its brgades and what goes on at least have the balls to put your name to it.
The problem is big al. That if only a phone call goes to the captains then they don't pass of the message to the members then the members don't get a chance. I would call that holding the power & control. As for the previous group your current GO only has 2 years experience in the CFS and your deputy has an ego problem I hear. Like he thinks that the group was run by egos and that he could do a better job didn't he put that in his CV. . So I guess the people that wanted to push out the old group people are doing the job now. I would say they have an ego problem. Either way I think you need to get around your group and find out what the other members think about what's going on down there. You can't just believe what you hear from your own brigade officers.
Hi Corey ;)
If the message isnt getting to the members via the captain then that is something the members need to bring up with their captain, it has nothing to do with the group..
As for our current GO sure he only has 2 years in the CFS but has a decade with a busy urban/rural CFA brigade including a large time of that as an officer plus very good managerial skills within his earlier work life, so how about u give the new team a go before you go sodding them off on a forum for all to see.
Btw i form my own opinions and dont rely on others to form them for me..
Anywho this really isnt the place to be airing your personal gripes about a group or individuals within a group, it really doesnt help peoples opinion of our team down here and to be honest makes you look quite petty and bitter, if things dont work out with our current group team then so be it, you can sit in your corner and giggle like a little school child, but until thats proven how about you give them a go and stop slagging them off on here and maybe do it to their faces if you have sych an issue!!
Hi pump rescue. No not quite. :mrgreen: I wouldn't last 5 mins there hahaha.
Obviously others are watching hey. Just hope the boys get on with the job. I haven't seen Corey around for a while. It was good to see him on the creek truck the other day.
(First response, the previous group people are gone, there is a good reason for that, they couldnt stand up and take responsibility for their actions they preferred to blame everyone else, and from that the new mundoo group officers now have substantial rebuilding to do for our group name which is now Mud because of previous done deeds....)
Big Al. Good to see you haven't sodding them off in your last comment. Shouldn't throw rocks if you live in a glass house.
Glad to hear your an individual Big Al.
I think its time to put this to rest, i have said my piece, my opinions are my own formed from things that i have seen happen.
All i will say is first response if you are going to continue to pick on the actions of people or brigades on an open forum, put your name where your mouth is rather than hide behind your anonymity.
Big Al. People need to respect others opinions as they are just that. And being able to anonymously express your opinion on a forum with out being chastised in your brigade for having an opinion is a good thing. You only have to look at what happens if you speak up for what you think is right in your brigade. You get pushed to the outer pretty quick. Petty or bitter. No, I just read pager site to see others get group or brigade pagers for strike team stuff. But I guess we must do phone a friend stuff instead. Would be nice if all brigade members get a go on a truck. Just my opinion. Just that.
And BTW I was commenting on Baggyassfirey comment on getting strike teams going. If you only ring 1/3 of the brigades members then I guess your not going to get a decent response. Pages are a great resource of communication.
Just my opinion. Your a passionate man Big Al. Run for group Al hehee
Ha Ha :lol:
QuoteBig Al. People need to respect others opinions as they are just that. And being able to anonymously express your opinion on a forum with out being chastised in your brigade for having an opinion is a good thing. You only have to look at what happens if you speak up for what you think is right in your brigade. You get pushed to the outer pretty quick. Petty or bitter. No, I just read pager site to see others get group or brigade pagers for strike team stuff. But I guess we must do phone a friend stuff instead. Would be nice if all brigade members get a go on a truck. Just my opinion. Just that
Sorry, I don't agree - I think its gutless and underhanded...
I respect someone's right to have an opinion, I do not have to respect their opinion.
If people don't have the courage of their convictions and are prepared to be accountable for what they say and write through putting their name to it, then they should be silent.
Cheers
Shane
00:44:02 21-05-13 UPST INFO: JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT ALL IS WELL IN UPPER STURT NO FIRES TO REPORT
CFS Upper Sturt Info
I personally wouldn't be happy with a page like this at that time.
Hmmm, seems a bit random, i would be very unhappy at that time of night.
Quote from: Raven on May 21, 2013, 12:48:54 AM
00:44:02 21-05-13 UPST INFO: JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT ALL IS WELL IN UPPER STURT NO FIRES TO REPORT
CFS Upper Sturt Info
I personally wouldn't be happy with a page like this at that time.
Probably an immature response to a 6am page last Thursday informing the entire group that UpperSturt QRV was offline.
29-05-13 23:08:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0102 29/05/13 23:07 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @UNLEY SHOPPING CENTRE #044/062 204 UNLEY RD UNLEY,MAP:ADL 130 J 6,TG 182, ==INPUT DESC - FIP NORTH WESTERN CNR -EXTERIOR :ADL2011 ADL202 GLO449 : - MFS Adelaide Station
Looks like Glen Osmond now running as the 9.
Quote from: Alex on May 29, 2013, 11:31:07 PM
29-05-13 23:08:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0102 29/05/13 23:07 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @UNLEY SHOPPING CENTRE #044/062 204 UNLEY RD UNLEY,MAP:ADL 130 J 6,TG 182, ==INPUT DESC - FIP NORTH WESTERN CNR -EXTERIOR :ADL2011 ADL202 GLO449 : - MFS Adelaide Station
Looks like Glen Osmond now running as the 9.
So what will this do now to Burnside as a rescue resource? WOuld they have now lost pretty much all of their area?
Somehow I can't see Burnside Pumper being relocated to another brigade, so no sense "drooling" over it. :-D Regardless of the level of risk you think you might have in your area.
Quote from: Add a length on May 30, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
Somehow I can't see Burnside Pumper being relocated to another brigade, so no sense "drooling" over it. :-D Regardless of the level of risk you think you might have in your area.
Errrrrrrr are you serious or just lacking a little brain capacity?? you actually deduced all of that from my question?
I have no want nor desire for burnside's pumper i was just simply asking what will become of their rescue area with a 9 pump all of a couple of kilometres away now.
But no you are right you don't need a pumper, or have any risk, but you certainly fit into the CFS moronic mentality.
Quote from: Add a length on May 30, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
Somehow I can't see Burnside Pumper being relocated to another brigade, so no sense "drooling" over it. :-D Regardless of the level of risk you think you might have in your area.
Bahahahaha :roll:
31-05-13 17:13:55 We have multiply leaks in new station, floor slippery. Buckets in situ. Caution when entering Do not turn on toilet lights major leak into light fitting Sheryl - CFS Mt Torrens info
Great...
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on May 31, 2013, 04:46:48 PM
31-05-13 17:13:55 We have multiply leaks in new station, floor slippery. Buckets in situ. Caution when entering Do not turn on toilet lights major leak into light fitting Sheryl - CFS Mt Torrens info
Great...
your taxes at work :)
Cheapest bidder
01:22:12 01-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0009 01/06/13 01:21 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @PORT AUGUSTA CIVIC CENTRE #051/004 4 MACKAY ST PORT AUGUSTA,MAP:PUG 2 C 7,TG 192, ==INPUT DESC - FIP MAIN ENTRY FOYER :PAU518 PAU519 :
MFS Port Augusta Response
I take it not many responded....
01:55:55 01-06-13 There is more crew at this station than the 5 Supervisors. Fire Fighters are required to respond to calls also. Even to early morning calls.
MFS Port Augusta Response
At 1am?!
06-06-13 01:08:25
MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 06/06/13 01:08 RESPOND TEST ONLY, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 44 582 PORTRUSH RD GLEN OSMOND,MAP:ADL 131 H10,TG 182, ==TEST TURN OUT :BURNPUMP R : - CFS Burnside Response
pretty sure they had COQ as there was a third alarm in the city.
Quote from: adizz131 on June 06, 2013, 06:09:47 AM
At 1am?!
06-06-13 01:08:25
MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 06/06/13 01:08 RESPOND TEST ONLY, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 44 582 PORTRUSH RD GLEN OSMOND,MAP:ADL 131 H10,TG 182, ==TEST TURN OUT :BURNPUMP R : - CFS Burnside Response
0:24:33 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0009 06/06/13 00:24 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 44 582 PORTRUSH RD GLEN OSMOND,MAP:ADL 131 H10,TG 182, == BURNSIDE PUMP COQ TO STN 44 GLEN OSMOND :BURNPUMP R :
CFS Burnside Response, CFS Lofty Group Officers Response
00:42:47 06-06-13 MFS: WELCOME TO STN 44
MFS GlenOsmond Station
01:02:43 06-06-13 TEST PAGE ONLY
MFS GlenOsmond Station
--
This was what happened..
00:03:26 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 06/06/13 00:02 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 100 KING WILLIAM ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 F11,TG 182, ==SMOKE COMING FROM DELI :ADL201 ADL2011 ADL204 ADL205 CAR40 :
MFS Car 41, MFS Adelaide ADL204, MFS Adelaide ADL203, MFS Adelaide ADL201, MFS Adelaide ADL205, MFS Adelaide Station
00:11:01 06-06-13 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 06/06/13 00:10 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 2, 100 KING WILLIAM ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 F11,TG 155 , ==SMOKE COMING FROM DELI :ADL2015 ADL202 ADL206 ADL2090 BLP211 BPK451 C1 THOMPR F1 MILLER S1 MASON SMGMTGRP :
MFS Senior Management Group
00:20:56 06-06-13 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 06/06/13 00:20 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 3, 100 KING WILLIAM ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 F11,TG 155 , ==SMOKE COMING FROM DELI == 3RD ALARM APPLIANCES TO STAGE ON WAYMOUTH ST, SOUTH WEST OF KING WILLIAM :GLO449 OC FLEET PPT371 S2 PRIME SMGMTGRP :
MFS Senior Management Group
00:59:27 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 06/06/13 00:20 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 3, 100 KING WILLIAM ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 F11,TG 155 , ==SMOKE COMING FROM DELI == 3RD ALARM APPLIANCES TO STAGE ON WAYMOUTH ST, SOUTH WEST OF KING WILLIAM :SAL321 STM401 WDV243 :
MFS Salisbury SAL321, MFS Prospect Station
03:03:52 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 06/06/13 03:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 3, 100 KING WILLIAM ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 F11,TG 155 , ==SMOKE COMING FROM DELI == 3RD ALARM APPLIANCES TO STAGE ON WAYMOUTH ST, SOUTH WEST OF KING WILLIAM ==321 PRIORITE 2, REPORT TO CAR 40 ON ARRIVAL :SAL321 :
MFS Salisbury SAL321, MFS Adelaide Station
04:04:25 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 06/06/13 03:08 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 3, : @NATIONAL MUTUAL BUILDING (ANZ COMPLEX) 111 KING WILLIAM ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 F11,TG 155 , ==SMOKE COMING FROM DELI == 3RD ALARM APPLIANCES TO STAGE ON WAYMOUTH ST, SOUTH WEST OF KING WILLIAM ==321 PRIORITE 2, REPORT TO CAR 40 ON ARRIVAL :OAK301 :
MFS Oakden OAK301
--
01:01:44 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0017 06/06/13 01:01 RESPOND CHANGE OF QUARTERS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 42 0 MAJORS RD O'HALLORAN HILL,MAP:ADL 165 B 5,TG 182, ==HAPPY VALLEY COQ TO STATION 42 OHALLORAN HILL :HPPYPUMP :
CFS Happy Valley Response, CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
01:28:09 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES: WELCOME TO SUNNY STN 42. ENJOY YOUR STAY
MFS OHalloran Hill Station
18:05:37 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0097 06/06/13 18:04 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SOUTH EASTERN FWY CRAFERS WEST,MAP:ADL 144 F 1,TG 136, :ADL204 GLO449 PCCY34P STRLPUMP R : - MFS Adelaide 204
Question - Why 3 rescue resources to a 1st alarm RCR? Also, I thought above the tunnels was CFS area and below tunnels MFS area - is that correct?
At 1am?!
06-06-13 01:08:25
MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 06/06/13 01:08 RESPOND TEST ONLY, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 44 582 PORTRUSH RD GLEN OSMOND,MAP:ADL 131 H10,TG 182, ==TEST TURN OUT :BURNPUMP R : - CFS Burnside Response
Yeah stuff that eh, fires shouldnt be allowed after what say 9pm, or is that a bit late for you too, poor thing. :wink
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on June 06, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
18:05:37 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0097 06/06/13 18:04 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SOUTH EASTERN FWY CRAFERS WEST,MAP:ADL 144 F 1,TG 136, :ADL204 GLO449 PCCY34P STRLPUMP R : - MFS Adelaide 204
Question - Why 3 rescue resources to a 1st alarm RCR? Also, I thought above the tunnels was CFS area and below tunnels MFS area - is that correct?
Cad hasn't been adjusted to include 449, and no the tunnels is MFS area, and they always send 2 up and 2 down to cater for traffic etc
Quote from: muscleandpluck on June 07, 2013, 09:39:17 AM
At 1am?!
06-06-13 01:08:25
MFS: *CFSRES INC0020 06/06/13 01:08 RESPOND TEST ONLY, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @MFS - 44 582 PORTRUSH RD GLEN OSMOND,MAP:ADL 131 H10,TG 182, ==TEST TURN OUT :BURNPUMP R : - CFS Burnside Response
Yeah stuff that eh, fires shouldnt be allowed after what say 9pm, or is that a bit late for you too, poor thing. :wink
Yeah good on ya mate.
I was referring to the test message...
If my pager went of at 1am for a test only message, i would be fairly annoyed.
But as you can see above, I was advised that they were COQ to station 44, hence the test.
07-06-13 17:17:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC0057 07/06/13 17:17 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, MAIN SOUTH RD MASLIN BEACH,MAP:ADL 205 Q13,TG 182, ==OCEAN SIDE OF MAIN SOUT IN THE GULLY BETWEEN PEDDER RD AND TATACHILLA RD :AIRDESK SEA469 : - MFS Seaford Response
One would presume a rural appliance would be better suited to this?
Quote from: pumprescue on June 07, 2013, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on June 06, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
18:05:37 06-06-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0097 06/06/13 18:04 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SOUTH EASTERN FWY CRAFERS WEST,MAP:ADL 144 F 1,TG 136, :ADL204 GLO449 PCCY34P STRLPUMP R : - MFS Adelaide 204
Question - Why 3 rescue resources to a 1st alarm RCR? Also, I thought above the tunnels was CFS area and below tunnels MFS area - is that correct?
Cad hasn't been adjusted to include 449, and no the tunnels is MFS area, and they always send 2 up and 2 down to cater for traffic etc
Makes sense - thanks.
14-06-13 13:02:08 MFS: *CFSRES INC0044 14/06/13 13:01 RESPOND BUILDING COLLAPSE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 207 CUDLEE CREEK RD CUDLEE CREEK,MAP:ADL 100 E10,TG 098, ==HALF HOUSE DEMOLISHED BY EXCAVATOR. NIL LIFE RISK, SAPOL ON ROUTE :CUDL34 LOBE RESC : - CFS Cudlee Creek Response
14-06-13 13:07:11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0046 14/06/13 13:06 RESPOND BUILDING COLLAPSE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 46 VICTORIA ST GUMERACHA,MAP:ADL 89 F14,TG 098, ==HALF HOUSE DEMOLISHED BY EXCAVATOR. NIL LIFE RISK, SAPOL ON ROUTE :BIRD34P R GUMA34 : - CFS Gumeracha Response
2 different jobs?
Quote from: fire8029 on June 14, 2013, 12:40:45 PM
14-06-13 13:02:08 MFS: *CFSRES INC0044 14/06/13 13:01 RESPOND BUILDING COLLAPSE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 207 CUDLEE CREEK RD CUDLEE CREEK,MAP:ADL 100 E10,TG 098, ==HALF HOUSE DEMOLISHED BY EXCAVATOR. NIL LIFE RISK, SAPOL ON ROUTE :CUDL34 LOBE RESC : - CFS Cudlee Creek Response
14-06-13 13:07:11 MFS: *CFSRES INC0046 14/06/13 13:06 RESPOND BUILDING COLLAPSE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 46 VICTORIA ST GUMERACHA,MAP:ADL 89 F14,TG 098, ==HALF HOUSE DEMOLISHED BY EXCAVATOR. NIL LIFE RISK, SAPOL ON ROUTE :BIRD34P R GUMA34 : - CFS Gumeracha Response
2 different jobs?
18-06-13 16:33:02 LYND: PAGER TESTING TO FOLLOW DO NOT RESPOND - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:43:11 LYND: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND STN IMMEDIATELY 18-06-13 16:42 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:43:58 LYND: *CFSRES: STATION OPEN FOR GRASSFIRE INCIDENT 18-06-13 16:43 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:44:51 LYND: *CFSRES: STATION OPEN FOR STRUCTURE INCIDENT 18-06-13 16:44 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:45:56 LYND: *CFSRES: STATION OPEN FOR RCR INCINDENT 18-06-13 16:45 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:46:50 LYND: *CFSRES: STATION OPEN FOR INCIDENT 18-06-13 16:46 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:47:54 LYND: *CFSRES: MORE BA / RCR OPERATORS REQUIRED 18-06-13 16:47 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:49:04 LYND: *CFSRES: BWC DRIVER AND CREW REQUIRED 18-06-13 16:48 - CFS Lyndoch Response
18-06-13 16:55:17 LYND: PERSONS REQ TO RECOMMISSION APPLIANCE(S) - ETA 30 MIN 18-06-13 16:54 - CFS Lyndoch Info
18-06-13 16:57:50 LYND: STATION SECURITY ALARM HAS ACTIVATED - CFS Lyndoch Info
18-06-13 17:00:32 LYND: PAGER TESTING NOW COMPLETE - CFS Lyndoch Response
Hahaha :roll:
19-06-13 14:53:10 MFS: FOR INFO, DUE TO A FIBRE OPTIC CABLE CUT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TRAFFIC LIGHT CONTROL. UFN. - MFS Adelaide ADL202
Didn't know that had that option?
18-06-13 16:45:56 LYND: *CFSRES: STATION OPEN FOR RCR INCINDENT 18-06-13 16:45 - CFS Lyndoch Response
Spelling check required - somebody send them a page to tell them??
(Incindent if anyone can't see it)
:-D
QuotePosted by: fire8029
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19-06-13 14:53:10 MFS: FOR INFO, DUE TO A FIBRE OPTIC CABLE CUT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TRAFFIC LIGHT CONTROL. UFN. - MFS Adelaide ADL202
Didn't know that had that option?
The lights only run on a timed relay, on a particular route that is requested, from the station (HQ' lights relays are little different to outsations). If you are on the road, it dosen't happen.
Quote from: flyonthewall on June 19, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
QuotePosted by: fire8029
Insert Quote
19-06-13 14:53:10 MFS: FOR INFO, DUE TO A FIBRE OPTIC CABLE CUT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TRAFFIC LIGHT CONTROL. UFN. - MFS Adelaide ADL202
Didn't know that had that option?
The lights only run on a timed relay, on a particular route that is requested, from the station (HQ' lights relays are little different to outsations). If you are on the road, it dosen't happen.
Thanks for that.
20-06-13 12:14:17 1 of 2 Compton 24 appliance is offline and being decommissioned due to the problem it has. Can any available member please be at station just after 16:00 - CFS Compton Info
Anyone know what's wrong with it?
Probably broke it ! :-D
Haha thanks for making that clear pip! :lol:
Quote from: crossy on June 20, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
20-06-13 12:14:17 1 of 2 Compton 24 appliance is offline and being decommissioned due to the problem it has. Can any available member please be at station just after 16:00 - CFS Compton Info
Anyone know what's wrong with it?
OOOOOHHHHH Camo what have ya done to it!!
Quote from: crossy on June 20, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Haha thanks for making that clear pip! :lol:
Anytime Crossy.. glad I could help!!! :-D
Believe it is a rust issue with the appliance (so says the Compton CFS Facebook page)
Pip
Howdy!
Can anyone tell me what a fuel escort involves?
I have seen this page go out a few times...
FUEL ESCORT RUN ON KI FERRY WILL DEPART 0600 HRS 3OTH RETURNING 1330HRS SAME DAY. CAN PEOPLE STILL AVAILABLE RING 85582234 NOW SO I CAN MAKE BOOKINGS. I HAVE NO OTHER INFORMATION J.EDGE :FROM G.C.C 11:20:31 AM - CFS Sthrn Fleurieu Group Info
Quote from: adizz131 on June 21, 2013, 10:56:44 AM
Howdy!
Can anyone tell me what a fuel escort involves?
I have seen this page go out a few times...
FUEL ESCORT RUN ON KI FERRY WILL DEPART 0600 HRS 3OTH RETURNING 1330HRS SAME DAY. CAN PEOPLE STILL AVAILABLE RING 85582234 NOW SO I CAN MAKE BOOKINGS. I HAVE NO OTHER INFORMATION J.EDGE :FROM G.C.C 11:20:31 AM - CFS Sthrn Fleurieu Group Info
Escorting fuel? Apart from that I wouldn't know.
Fuel escorting on Sealink Ferry's is something the Southern Fleurieu group has been participating in for a long time. Typically 2 or 4 BA operators are tasked to provide active supervision of large fuel carriage to KI. When I was in the group it did involve a payment for the service provided.
Quote from: JamesGar on June 21, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
Fuel escorting on Sealink Ferry's is something the Southern Fleurieu group has been participating in for a long time. Typically 2 or 4 BA operators are tasked to provide active supervision of large fuel carriage to KI. When I was in the group it did involve a payment for the service provided.
Is it just for normal everyday fuel or something particular because I'm sure there is more than the odd semi load of fuel heading to the island!!
Quote from: Pipster on June 20, 2013, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: crossy on June 20, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Haha thanks for making that clear pip! :lol:
Anytime Crossy.. glad I could help!!! :-D
Believe it is a rust issue with the appliance (so says the Compton CFS Facebook page)
Pip
Yes the twin skin chassis rails are full of rust between the 2 rails, due to age its not worth fixing.
27-06-13 21:29:43 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:29 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :KARD34P R WYNA24 : - CFS Wynarka Response
27-06-13 21:31:42 INC 115. HELICOPTER LANDING SITE REQ. MONITOR 020 - CFS Mallee Group Officers Response
27-06-13 21:38:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :ETTR34 : - CFS Ettrick Response
27-06-13 21:39:27 WYNARKA YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED AND ETTRICK RESPONDED - CFS Wynarka Response
27-06-13 21:45:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :BOWH24 : - CFS Bow Hill Response
27-06-13 21:46:17 ETTRICK YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED, RESPONDING BOWHILL - CFS Ettrick Response
27-06-13 21:52:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :TLEM34P R : - CFS Tailem Bend Response
27-06-13 21:53:08 BOWHILL YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED - RESPONDING TAILEM BEND - CFS Bow Hill Response
3 brigades defaulted. It was a close game of footy but really folks? You should make the most of your 2 calls a year. Let alone the poor casualties.
Quote27-06-13 21:29:43 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:29 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :KARD34P R WYNA24 : - CFS Wynarka Response
27-06-13 21:31:42 INC 115. HELICOPTER LANDING SITE REQ. MONITOR 020 - CFS Mallee Group Officers Response
27-06-13 21:38:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :ETTR34 : - CFS Ettrick Response
27-06-13 21:39:27 WYNARKA YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED AND ETTRICK RESPONDED - CFS Wynarka Response
27-06-13 21:45:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :BOWH24 : - CFS Bow Hill Response
27-06-13 21:46:17 ETTRICK YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED, RESPONDING BOWHILL - CFS Ettrick Response
27-06-13 21:52:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :TLEM34P R : - CFS Tailem Bend Response
27-06-13 21:53:08 BOWHILL YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED - RESPONDING TAILEM BEND - CFS Bow Hill Response
Emergency service?
28-06-13 13:07:25 ANY CREW INERESTED IN CONDUCTING A BURNOFF COULD THEY BE AT THE STATION AT 1:15 REGARDS CADELL CAPTAIN - CFS Cadell Response
Good to see a bit of notice.
Quote from: fire8029 on June 28, 2013, 12:43:39 PM
28-06-13 13:07:25 ANY CREW INERESTED IN CONDUCTING A BURNOFF COULD THEY BE AT THE STATION AT 1:15 REGARDS CADELL CAPTAIN - CFS Cadell Response
Good to see a bit of notice.
I don't think a lot of the crew would have anywhere else to be.....
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on June 28, 2013, 06:24:59 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on June 28, 2013, 12:43:39 PM
28-06-13 13:07:25 ANY CREW INERESTED IN CONDUCTING A BURNOFF COULD THEY BE AT THE STATION AT 1:15 REGARDS CADELL CAPTAIN - CFS Cadell Response
Good to see a bit of notice.
I don't think a lot of the crew would have anywhere else to be.....
Pip
Haha pip..not down sunning themselves on the river you don't think?
Quote from: Moifey on June 27, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
27-06-13 21:29:43 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:29 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :KARD34P R WYNA24 : - CFS Wynarka Response
27-06-13 21:31:42 INC 115. HELICOPTER LANDING SITE REQ. MONITOR 020 - CFS Mallee Group Officers Response
27-06-13 21:38:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :ETTR34 : - CFS Ettrick Response
27-06-13 21:39:27 WYNARKA YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED AND ETTRICK RESPONDED - CFS Wynarka Response
27-06-13 21:45:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :BOWH24 : - CFS Bow Hill Response
27-06-13 21:46:17 ETTRICK YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED, RESPONDING BOWHILL - CFS Ettrick Response
27-06-13 21:52:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0115 27/06/13 21:38 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 274 BAUMGURTEL RD WYNARKA,MAP:C/153 54,TG 204, == SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER :TLEM34P R : - CFS Tailem Bend Response
27-06-13 21:53:08 BOWHILL YOU HAVE BEEN DEFAULTED - RESPONDING TAILEM BEND - CFS Bow Hill Response
3 brigades defaulted. It was a close game of footy but really folks? You should make the most of your 2 calls a year. Let alone the poor casualties.
It happens not everyone is home or available to respond 24/7 it's exactly why default procedures are in place! Small communities = less volunteers = higher probability of defaulting!
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on June 28, 2013, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: Pipster on June 28, 2013, 06:24:59 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on June 28, 2013, 12:43:39 PM
28-06-13 13:07:25 ANY CREW INERESTED IN CONDUCTING A BURNOFF COULD THEY BE AT THE STATION AT 1:15 REGARDS CADELL CAPTAIN - CFS Cadell Response
Good to see a bit of notice.
I don't think a lot of the crew would have anywhere else to be.....
Pip
Haha pip..not down sunning themselves on the river you don't think?
I'd suggest the bulk of them would have been working, or finished work for the day (I think they still have the dairy at Cadell) - but evening time, you shouldn't see them down at the local for a quick pint!!!
Pip
Pretty safe to say all 3 trucks could be filled on short notice, and they would all be glad to get "out" haha
05-07-13 08:59:30 MFS: INC 13 - FROM STIRLING FIRE & RESCUE ON SCENE, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED - STT20 - SES Sturt Response
Change of name???
11:29:25 10-07-13 STOP FOR SMOKE DETECTOR ANDREW'S FARM. CAUSE COOKING. FROM ELIZABETH 331. DALK 44P. NOT REQUIRED. FROM LT4.
CFS Dalkeith Info
;)
Quote from: Raven on July 10, 2013, 11:29:39 AM
11:29:25 10-07-13 STOP FOR SMOKE DETECTOR ANDREW'S FARM. CAUSE COOKING. FROM ELIZABETH 331. DALK 44P. NOT REQUIRED. FROM LT4.
CFS Dalkeith Info
;)
New truck? Holds alot of water lol.
Quote from: fire8029 on July 10, 2013, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Raven on July 10, 2013, 11:29:39 AM
11:29:25 10-07-13 STOP FOR SMOKE DETECTOR ANDREW'S FARM. CAUSE COOKING. FROM ELIZABETH 331. DALK 44P. NOT REQUIRED. FROM LT4.
CFS Dalkeith Info
;)
New truck? Holds alot of water lol.
Not much longer and there will be a 44 appliance in service :)
19-07-13 05:59:06 Kersbrook brigade reminder AGM Tuesday 16 th july 19.30 .Non Election year need as many member as possible to attend. - CFS Kersbrook Info
CHVL: Garry in QRV til dark 19/07/2013 1408 - CFS Cherryville Info
See this every so often.
Out doing some mapping of the local area....
Pip
Wait... what..?
MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 23/07/13 19:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HUTCHISON ST COOBER PEDY,MAP:CPD 1 H13,TG 073, == OPPOSITE MAIN STORE :APK361 : - MFS Angle Park APK361
Oh, wait.
361 was then dispatched to this 30 seconds later.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0003 24/07/13 04:48 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @NETA INDUSTRIES PTY LTD #036/195 91 CLEVELAND TCE OTTOWAY,MAP:ADL 92 J 8,TG 182, ==INPUT DESC - FIP ALARM INSIDE MAIN ENTRY SOUTH BLDGS :APK361 : - MFS Angle Park APK361
MFS: *CFSRES INC0034 25/07/13 11:07 RESPOND HAZMAT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @LE FEVRE HIGH SCHOOL (SEMAPHORE SOUTH) 90 HART ST SEMAPHORE SOUTH,MAP:ADL 91 H 9,TG 182, ==LITHUIM BATTERY OF MOBILE PHONE EXPLODED AND FUMES CAUSING CONCERN :ADL206 CAR40 LGS281 PAD251 WDV249 : - MFS Car 41
I wonder how bad it was...
02-08-13 13:36:25 MFS: *CFSRES INC0047 02/08/13 13:35 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 2, : RHINO CRASH 8 CAMIRA ST REGENCY PARK,MAP:ADL 105 K 1,TG 155 , ==FIRE IN A SPRAY BOTH :ADL206 ADL2090 C1 FLETCH F1 RELIEF OAK301 PAD251 S1 HOWARD SMGMTGRP WDV243 : - MFS Oakden Station
Second one in a week!
"12:42:01 05-08-13 AGM TONIGHT STARTING AT 1930 HOURS. SUPPER WILL BE PROVIDED AFTER MEETING. CAN ALL MEMBERS PLEASE WEAR OUR BRIGADE UNIFORM THANKS. PRESIDENT - CFS Mount Barker Info"
Brigade uniform???
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on August 05, 2013, 06:41:35 PM
"12:42:01 05-08-13 AGM TONIGHT STARTING AT 1930 HOURS. SUPPER WILL BE PROVIDED AFTER MEETING. CAN ALL MEMBERS PLEASE WEAR OUR BRIGADE UNIFORM THANKS. PRESIDENT - CFS Mount Barker Info"
Brigade uniform???
Could be their brigade shirt.
Our "uniform" is usually turnout pants and blue brigade top
Apparently the uniform is a brigade collared shirt and blue work pants.
OMG, imagine a brigade that has a uniform and takes some pride, get out !!!!!!
Quote from: pumprescue on August 06, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
OMG, imagine a brigade that has a uniform and takes some pride, get out !!!!!!
No one said anything negative though. I for one think it's a good idea to have the brigade uniform, it brings out the professional side of the CFS. But where I would disagree is if brigade started punishing the members that did not wear the uniform.
Quote from: Hillsfirefighter on August 06, 2013, 10:59:15 PM
Quote from: pumprescue on August 06, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
OMG, imagine a brigade that has a uniform and takes some pride, get out !!!!!!
No one said anything negative though. I for one think it's a good idea to have the brigade uniform, it brings out the professional side of the CFS. But where I would disagree is if brigade started punishing the members that did not wear the uniform.
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Good stuff!
I see SAAS have got rid of addresses now. Only paging the suburb.
With all the stuff going to MDTs now, there was really not much point of putting street address on + means more privacy for patients.
Quote from: HeavyRescue on July 24, 2013, 06:17:36 AM
Wait... what..?
MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 23/07/13 19:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HUTCHISON ST COOBER PEDY,MAP:CPD 1 H13,TG 073, == OPPOSITE MAIN STORE :APK361 : - MFS Angle Park APK361
Oh, wait.
361 was then dispatched to this 30 seconds later.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0003 24/07/13 04:48 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @NETA INDUSTRIES PTY LTD #036/195 91 CLEVELAND TCE OTTOWAY,MAP:ADL 92 J 8,TG 182, ==INPUT DESC - FIP ALARM INSIDE MAIN ENTRY SOUTH BLDGS :APK361 : - MFS Angle Park APK361
Those pages were from two separate days
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on February 18, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
07:19:00 18-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0007 18/02/13 07:18 RESPOND HELICOPTER LANDING P1 TARLEE RD KAPUNDA MAP:C/207 54,CALLER:SAAS ==REQ HELICOPTER LANDING SITE AT SCENE OF RR :KPU20 B SNOTIFY E : - SES Kapunda Response
Are SES trained in HLO procedures like CFS have been?
Yes training is performed on an as needed basis.
13-09-13 09:47:29 MFS: *CFSRES INC0031 13/09/13 09:47 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BEACH RD GOOLWA SOUTH,MAP:ADL 307 K15,TG 138, == ON BEACH BETWEEN BEACH RD AND THE MOUTH CALL SAPOL ON 0418 809 245 :GLWA24P R GLWA34 : - CFS Goolwa Response
13-09-13 10:05:26 MFS: ARE ANY APPLIANCES MOBILE TO INC 31? PLEASE ACK WITH ADELAIDE FIRE - CFS Goolwa Response
Shouldn't they have been defaulted alot earlier?
That was actually an error in communications from us, a group car was used by our capt and group officer to go investigate the job. However they failed to let comm's know that an appliance wasn't attending.
Our appliances are capable of running on the beach to about halfway to the murray mouth but we have been told under no circumstances are they to touch the sand so any fire on the beach is investigated in a group car.
In the end there was no car on fire, which is a nice change as we seem to have a select few down this way at the moment that are stealing cars then torching them on the beach near the carpark.
Quote from: fire8029 on September 13, 2013, 09:40:06 AM
13-09-13 09:47:29 MFS: *CFSRES INC0031 13/09/13 09:47 RESPOND VEHICLE FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BEACH RD GOOLWA SOUTH,MAP:ADL 307 K15,TG 138, == ON BEACH BETWEEN BEACH RD AND THE MOUTH CALL SAPOL ON 0418 809 245 :GLWA24P R GLWA34 : - CFS Goolwa Response
13-09-13 10:05:26 MFS: ARE ANY APPLIANCES MOBILE TO INC 31? PLEASE ACK WITH ADELAIDE FIRE - CFS Goolwa Response
Shouldn't they have been defaulted alot earlier?
6 minutes to acknowledge, plus another 10 to go mobile once you acknowledge... so up to 16 minutes before anyone really gets chased up... that is a long time for a fire to develop.
luckily most brigades have either gone the no deplete option or are quite good at knowing their crewing and defaulting early.
Is it just me, or should this kind of information be kept for when you call Adelaide fire on phone / radio?
And I know people can listen into the radio, but the amount of people that would find out via radio instead of the pager feed would be substantially less.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0035 19/09/13 10:06 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SCHUBERT RD PARUNA,MAP:C/187 54,TG 203, ==ON LARGE BEND NEAR BILLAWEENA HOMESTEAD..POSSIBLE 2 FATALS :BRWL34 LOX29 : - CFS Chaffey Group Officers Response
RE INC 035. SAAS HAVE CONFIRMED 2 ENTRAPMENT FATALITIES AND REQUIRE EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT. - SES Loxton Response
Meh, whats the big deal
I agree, but then on face book on the police news site it said there were 2 entrapments with minor injuries???
And chatting to members of the same group, who were listening to the radio conversation, the two fatalities turned out not to be dead!!
Pip
Zombies?
Quote from: HeavyRescue on September 19, 2013, 09:43:10 AM
Is it just me, or should this kind of information be kept for when you call Adelaide fire on phone / radio?
And I know people can listen into the radio, but the amount of people that would find out via radio instead of the pager feed would be substantially less.
The GRN Paging and Voice system is the communications method for CFS. Therefore any relevant information should be fine to broadcast on it.
There are only a few things that should not be broadcast, ie specific details on assisting SAPol with drug raids, etc as it can potentially alert their intended targets.
Perhaps if it is a concern they should look at encrypting it, similar to SAAS, SAPol.
Quote from: Alex on September 20, 2013, 08:23:56 AM
Quote from: HeavyRescue on September 19, 2013, 09:43:10 AM
Is it just me, or should this kind of information be kept for when you call Adelaide fire on phone / radio?
And I know people can listen into the radio, but the amount of people that would find out via radio instead of the pager feed would be substantially less.
The GRN Paging and Voice system is the communications method for CFS. Therefore any relevant information should be fine to broadcast on it.
There are only a few things that should not be broadcast, ie specific details on assisting SAPol with drug raids, etc as it can potentially alert their intended targets.
Perhaps if it is a concern they should look at encrypting it, similar to SAAS, SAPol.
As long as they dont mention names or specific gory details (saw a page last year for a fatality where the dispatcher thought it necessary to mention via pager one fatality was decapitated)then its all fine in my opinion.
Without including personal details; ie car rego, or persons names, i tend to think the more information the merrier.
If sending a page that says "RCR, 2 fatalities, one ejected, one decapitated" means that a station takes two seconds longer to choose their crew and prevents a young 'innocent' person [or otherwise unfit person] from seeing something they don't really need to, then that's a good thing. It also lets the oncoming crew prepare themselves for what they may be approaching rather than being overwhelmed on arrival.
It is a fine line though, and consideration needs to be given as to the accuracy of the information.
Quote from: Alex on September 20, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
Without including personal details; ie car rego, or persons names, i tend to think the more information the merrier.
If sending a page that says "RCR, 2 fatalities, one ejected, one decapitated" means that a station takes two seconds longer to choose their crew and prevents a young 'innocent' person [or otherwise unfit person] from seeing something they don't really need to, then that's a good thing. It also lets the oncoming crew prepare themselves for what they may be approaching rather than being overwhelmed on arrival.
It is a fine line though, and consideration needs to be given as to the accuracy of the information.
I do agree, I would rather know just what I'm heading to, rather then be shocked and overwhelmed upon arrival.
In our group no personal details are to be sent over the radios and also if there is a fatality and we need to send a sitrep then it is done by mobile phone rather than grn
Quote from: Raven on September 20, 2013, 09:58:21 PM
Quote from: Alex on September 20, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
Without including personal details; ie car rego, or persons names, i tend to think the more information the merrier.
If sending a page that says "RCR, 2 fatalities, one ejected, one decapitated" means that a station takes two seconds longer to choose their crew and prevents a young 'innocent' person [or otherwise unfit person] from seeing something they don't really need to, then that's a good thing. It also lets the oncoming crew prepare themselves for what they may be approaching rather than being overwhelmed on arrival.
It is a fine line though, and consideration needs to be given as to the accuracy of the information.
I do agree, I would rather know just what I'm heading to, rather then be shocked and overwhelmed upon arrival.
This is all well and good as long as the info sent on the pager is correct. Once was responded to an MVA, car vs embankment, no entraps late one night when I was 17. Got there and it was a high speed car vs tree with dual entrapment. A lot of blood, noise and screaming. I dealt with it fairly well (the screaming nagged at me for a bit) but others perhaps wouldnt in a similar position. Horses for courses.
Quote from: kiwifirefighter on September 21, 2013, 02:17:09 AM
In our group no personal details are to be sent over the radios and also if there is a fatality and we need to send a sitrep then it is done by mobile phone rather than grn
Whilst i respect every group or individual officer's right to make their own choices, I've never understood the hesitance to put these sort of details [the fatalities, not personal names, numbers etc] over the GRN.
Quote from: ElectricEliminator on September 21, 2013, 09:51:33 AM
This is all well and good as long as the info sent on the pager is correct. Once was responded to an MVA, car vs embankment, no entraps late one night when I was 17. Got there and it was a high speed car vs tree with dual entrapment. A lot of blood, noise and screaming. I dealt with it fairly well (the screaming nagged at me for a bit) but others perhaps wouldnt in a similar position. Horses for courses.
Very true, unfortunately though the sources of information can very rarely be completely relied upon. Communications centres quite often get calls from people who either drive past without stopping, or stop and really have no idea. Information becomes second and third hand and it gets hard to get a real idea until someone arrives on scene. And even then people have varying abilities to determine what exactly is happening, ie; different services carrying different definitions for patients or entrapments, etc..
When I attended my first incident it came over as a rcr the brigade captain did I ask if I was okay to deal with it. Also we tend not to take young or new members to rcr if the details are sketchy or if not necessary. I think the reason in our group is that people can listen in to the radios and if information is being sent then you can have people turning up on scene, which can add more problems to an incident. A brigade was called up by the media when the group officer was talking about a brigade issue over the radios
Quote from: kiwifirefighter on September 21, 2013, 09:50:48 PM
When I attended my first incident it came over as a rcr the brigade captain did I ask if I was okay to deal with it. Also we tend not to take young or new members to rcr if the details are sketchy or if not necessary. I think the reason in our group is that people can listen in to the radios and if information is being sent then you can have people turning up on scene, which can add more problems to an incident. A brigade was called up by the media when the group officer was talking about a brigade issue over the radios
I remember my first incident was an RCR, didn't get many details, turns out it was t nasty, just I won't forget it.
Anyone know anything about this one from last night?
22:16:13 23-09-13 Repage:GO181 PR: 2 - MILANG D1094 Disp: 22:15 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Road Crash Research
22:16:15 23-09-13 Repage:OS9 PR: 2 - MILANG D1093 Disp: 22:15 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Road Crash Research
22:37:10 23-09-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0099 23/09/13 22:36 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 924 MILANG RD MILANG,MAP:C/97 54,TG 142, ==ASSIST SAAS, UNCONCIOUS PERSON IN PADDOCK :MLNG34 : - CFS Milang Response
22:37:22 23-09-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0015 23/09/13 22:36 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL P2 924 MILANG RD MILANG MAP:C/97 54,CALLER: ==ASSIST SAAS, UNCONCIOUS PERSON IN PADDOCK :SNOTIFY E STR20 G : - SES Strathalbyn
22:44:28 23-09-13 HELI LANDING SITE REQUIRED. TALK GROUP 020 - CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
Police looking with a missing person, who was then found & required SAAS attention.
Pip
22-10-13 10:17:19 MCLF:1 OF 2:SITREP FROM 34: THE BOYS STAYED AT HAY LAST NIGHT (4 HRS SLEEP), CURRENTLY AT NARRANDERA. HAVING LUNCH AT WAGGA THEN ON TO GOULBURN... - CFS McLaren Flat Info
Lucky we don't give a toss about fatigue management in the CFS...
Talking of fatigue..... or it's a very interesting job!
15:11:55 22-10-13
NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0060 22/10/13 15:11 TREE DOWN P2 EDGCUMBE TCE ROSSLYN PARK MAP:ADL 120 D10,CALLER: ==CAR DOWN ON TWO PARKED CARS. :EAS20 D SNOTIFY C :
Pip
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 22, 2013, 09:00:42 AM
22-10-13 10:17:19 MCLF:1 OF 2:SITREP FROM 34: THE BOYS STAYED AT HAY LAST NIGHT (4 HRS SLEEP), CURRENTLY AT NARRANDERA. HAVING LUNCH AT WAGGA THEN ON TO GOULBURN... - CFS McLaren Flat Info
Lucky we don't give a toss about fatigue management in the CFS...
didn't we send 2 drivers per appliance to negate the fatigue issue?
Quote from: misterteddy on October 23, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on October 22, 2013, 09:00:42 AM
22-10-13 10:17:19 MCLF:1 OF 2:SITREP FROM 34: THE BOYS STAYED AT HAY LAST NIGHT (4 HRS SLEEP), CURRENTLY AT NARRANDERA. HAVING LUNCH AT WAGGA THEN ON TO GOULBURN... - CFS McLaren Flat Info
Lucky we don't give a toss about fatigue management in the CFS...
didn't we send 2 drivers per appliance to negate the fatigue issue?
Left Adelaide at 1600 assuming drivers been awake since 0800 that morning and drove until let's assume 0200 that's 18 hours awake isn't it with 4 hours sleep following... Even two up driving (which without sleeper bunk it's hardly real two up) the hours just don't add up is all I'm saying!
Anyone know anything about this?
30-10-13 09:28:47 BE AWARE THAT WE NOW HAVE 6 PUMPS OFF DUTY PER UPDATED DEPLOYMENT - MFS Car 31
31-10-13 13:32:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WIN FIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide ADL201
31-10-13 13:32:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide Station
Found this interesting that 201 got sent instead of any closer appliances?
Quote from: fire8029 on October 31, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
31-10-13 13:32:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WIN FIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide ADL201
31-10-13 13:32:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide Station
Found this interesting that 201 got sent instead of any closer appliances?
They may have been COQ in Angle park area.
Quote from: Ferret on October 31, 2013, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on October 31, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
31-10-13 13:32:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WIN FIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide ADL201
31-10-13 13:32:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide Station
Found this interesting that 201 got sent instead of any closer appliances?
They may have been COQ in Angle park area.
No COQ page, not saying they weren't. They had this about 30 mins before.
12:53:09 31-10-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0076 31/10/13 12:52 RESPOND PRIVATE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, :UNIT 23, 22 LIBERMAN CL ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 K10,TG 182, ==MULITABLE SMK DECTORS ACTIVATED :ADL201 ADL203 :
MFS Adelaide ADL203, MFS Adelaide ADL201, MFS Adelaide Station
Priority 2 job.
Quote from: Raven on October 31, 2013, 02:11:27 PM
Quote from: Ferret on October 31, 2013, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: fire8029 on October 31, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
31-10-13 13:32:14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WIN FIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide ADL201
31-10-13 13:32:12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 31/10/13 13:31 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : PRIORITY TWO 5 RAFFERTY ST WINGFIELD,MAP:ADL 93 H 4,TG 182, :ADL201 : - MFS Adelaide Station
Found this interesting that 201 got sent instead of any closer appliances?
They may have been COQ in Angle park area.
No COQ page, not saying they weren't. They had this about 30 mins before.
12:53:09 31-10-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0076 31/10/13 12:52 RESPOND PRIVATE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, :UNIT 23, 22 LIBERMAN CL ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 K10,TG 182, ==MULITABLE SMK DECTORS ACTIVATED :ADL201 ADL203 :
MFS Adelaide ADL203, MFS Adelaide ADL201, MFS Adelaide Station
If they were coq it wouldn't have come up at Adelaide station i thought. I suppose it makes sense to send 201 instead of mulitple coq.
Not all movements will come up on the paging system because 201 could have been COQ for part of day at 36 as per an organised COQ.
priority two, specialist equipment and personnel
does it really matter though?
also, not every COQ goes through as a page/response
a lot are predetermined for the day based on training and/or operational deployment
a lot happen over phone and a lot are MCT data messages only
Quote from: Alex on November 01, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
also, not every COQ goes through as a page/response
a lot are predetermined for the day based on training and/or operational deployment
a lot happen over phone and a lot are MCT data messages only
Yes i understand not all change of quarter go through the paging system but if the were at Angle Park station it would have paged through Angle Park station not Adelaide station. It doesn't really matter im not arguing just found it interesting. :-)
Quote from: fire8029 on November 01, 2013, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 01, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
also, not every COQ goes through as a page/response
a lot are predetermined for the day based on training and/or operational deployment
a lot happen over phone and a lot are MCT data messages only
Yes i understand not all change of quarter go through the paging system but if the were at Angle Park station it would have paged through Angle Park station not Adelaide station. It doesn't really matter im not arguing just found it interesting. :-)
true
Quote from: Alex on November 01, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
priority two, specialist equipment and personnel
MFS: *CFSRES INC0065 03/11/13 15:36 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 40 NEEDLES RD WILLIAMSTOWN,MAP:C/178B 54,TG 096, :WLLM24P R WLLM3
Followed by:
15:45:59 03-11-13 URGENT RESPONSE REQUIRED LADY VERY UPSET GRASS BURNING TOWARD HOUSE
04-11-13 21:06:20 MFS: *CFSRES INC0132 04/11/13 21:06 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 293 LOBETHAL RD ASHTON,MAP:ADL 133 N 1,TG 126, ==SPOT FIRE HAS STARTED ACROSS ROAD FROM THIS CFS BURNOFF :AIRDESK BASK24 : - CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response
21:09:46 04-11-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0132 04/11/13 21:06 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 293 LOBETHAL RD ASHTON,MAP:ADL 133 N 1,TG 126, ==SPOT FIRE HAS STARTED ACROSS ROAD FROM THIS CFS BURNOFF :NORT34P :
CFS Norton Summit Response, CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response
And what appears on the pagers is not always true...
Pip
What was the story Pip? Completely seperate incident?
Seemed to go third alarm?
Friend of mine sent it to me, I just copied all of what he said, on to here, curious if anyone knew if that was true or not.
Sort had lots of appliances called, but many had delays in getting there - my brigade was called, but being a training night, we were out playing with water, and our tank was pretty much empty, and we were at the other end of our patch (the opposite end to the supposed fire!) - So we had to fill up first, and the next brigade sent.
I believe the spot fire was actually a totally unrelated fire, that had been burning for sometime - nothing to do with the CFS burn at all.
Pip
17-11-13 20:55:52 Marek is a cunty - SES Metro South Info
???
MFS: *CFSRES INC0005 27/11/13 17:41 RESPOND TREE DOWN P1 JOHNSONS RD BALHANNAH MAP:ADL 147 P14,CALLER: ==BLOCKING ENTIRE ROAD NEAR JONES RD :OLO20 K SNOTIFY C : - CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response
Oakbank 34P also got responded.
Then:
MFS: *CFSRES STOP FOR INC0005 FROM DO 27 Nov 2013 17:45:20 - CFS Lobethal Response
Followed by:
17:51:35 OAKB: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED 27-11-13 17:50 - CFS Oakbank / Balhannah Response.
This is not the first time this type of paging goes on. Is there a reason that Lobethal SES(CFS) always gets stopped yet Oakbank are paging for more crew?
They way I understand it is Onkaparinga SES has members within most of the Onka brigades while the SES truck is kept at Lobethal. So unless specific gear is needed from the SES truck they use the members located at the closer locations to respond.
what he said
the point is valid though... why stop a resource when noone has even gotten out the doors yet?
25-12-13 21:40:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0068 25/12/13 21:40 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 12 KRIEG RD EVANSTON PARK,MAP:ADL 33 J 5,TG 182, :AIRDESK GAW359 SAL321 : - MFS Gawler Station
25-12-13 21:40:31 MFS: *CFSRES INC0068 25/12/13 21:40 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 12 KRIEG RD EVANSTON PARK,MAP:ADL 33 J 5,TG 182, :AIRDESK GAW359 SAL321 : - MFS Gawler GAW359
25-12-13 21:40:31 MFS: *CFSRES INC0068 25/12/13 21:40 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 12 KRIEG RD EVANSTON PARK,MAP:ADL 33 J 5,TG 182, :AIRDESK GAW359 SAL321 : - MFS Salisbury SAL321
25-12-13 21:40:29 NOTIFICATION MFS: *CFSRES INC0068 25/12/13 21:40 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 12 KRIEG RD EVANSTON PARK,MAP:ADL 33 J 5,TG 182, :AIRDESK GAW359 SAL321 : - CFS State Air Desk
Is their a reason why their are two appliances rolling out of station 35 on Christmas?
Why do you say their are two appliances out of Gawler, from that message?
Looks like one from Gawler, and one probably out of Elizabeth (perhaps being change of quarters to Elizabeth, from Salisbury)
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on December 26, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
Why do you say their are two appliances out of Gawler, from that message?
Looks like one from Gawler, and one probably out of Elizabeth (perhaps being change of quarters to Elizabeth, from Salisbury)
Pip
Well that's what I think would be the case but their is no response for Elizabeth station so unless Salisbury were already on the road or SA Scan didn't pick up the response. Just asking if something new is being practised otherwise?
Salisbury were COQ to elizabeth at the time.
The first part has the bells dropping at Gawler station.
The second part is the call on Gawler 359' MCT
The third part is the call on Salisbury 321' MCT
The most likely scenario is tha Salisbury were on the road (not necessarily in Elizabeths area, but could have been)
Ok thanks
Some COQ are organised without an official notification and if 321 was COQ at 33, they were definately on the road.
28-12-13 15:43:55 Call out duty crew report to unit again Regards Mark :( - SES Noarlunga Info
Who would've thought that you need to respond to more than 1 callout a day in the SES?!?
When did Port Lincoln get a 1 pump?
06-01-14 07:57:03 MFS: *CFSRES INC0009 06/01/14 07:54 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @ADELAIDE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA #013/142 91 HINDLEY ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 E10,TG 182, ==TEST ONLY :PTL541: - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Quote from: fire8029 on January 06, 2014, 07:18:59 AM
When did Port Lincoln get a 1 pump?
06-01-14 07:57:03 MFS: *CFSRES INC0009 06/01/14 07:54 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @ADELAIDE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA #013/142 91 HINDLEY ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 E10,TG 182, ==TEST ONLY :PTL541: - MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse
Must be new.
Its just a spare pump
So are they running it all the time or just instead of the 3 for now, i saw a job with 549 and 541?
15:14:14 10-01-14 LOFT MGT: HI ALL BE ADVISED THE I AM NOW SUBJECT OF A REGULATION 22 INVESTIGATION AS A RESULT OF THE UNRESOLVED ISSUES BTWN REG CMDR AND THE GRP. GO - CFS Lofty Group Management
Why delay between Barker CFS and SES being responded? Have noticed this a couple of times for tree jobs in Mt Barker.
10-01-14 16:53:16 MFS: *CFSRES INC0069 10/01/14 16:52 RESPOND TREE DOWN, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 91 HURLING DR MOUNT BARKER,MAP:ADL 172 M15,TG 128, == TREE BRANCH ACROSS ROAD :MBKR RESC : - CFS Mount Barker Response
10-01-14 16:57:18 MFS: *CFSRES INC0010 10/01/14 16:52 RESPOND TREE DOWN P1 91 HURLING DR MOUNT BARKER MAP:ADL 172 M15,CALLER:SAPOL == TREE BRANCH ACROSS ROAD :MTB20 Z SNOTIFY C : - SES Mt Barker Response
TMBG: BE AWARE OF SEVERE WEATHER CONDITIONS THIS WEEK. COULD ALL BRIGADES PLS CHECK TRUCKS AND GEAR SO YOU ARE READY TO GO IN CASE OF FIRE. KEEP C OOL. 12/01/2014 9:05:48 AM - CFS Tumby Bay Group Info
Shouldn't you be always be ready????
Volunteers professionally protecting communities for life!!
What a joke
Quote from: muscleandpluck on January 12, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
TMBG: BE AWARE OF SEVERE WEATHER CONDITIONS THIS WEEK. COULD ALL BRIGADES PLS CHECK TRUCKS AND GEAR SO YOU ARE READY TO GO IN CASE OF FIRE. KEEP C OOL. 12/01/2014 9:05:48 AM - CFS Tumby Bay Group Info
Shouldn't you be always be ready????
Volunteers professionally protecting communities for life!!
What a joke
Our group did the same thing!! Nothing wrong with prompting people to check things before forecast extreme weather!!
Remember not every brigade has members that attend the station regularly to check things...fact of life pal some people have lives outside of CFS and especially this time of year a lot of the farming communities like the one in question their members are away on HOLIDAYS.
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on January 10, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
15:14:14 10-01-14 LOFT MGT: HI ALL BE ADVISED THE I AM NOW SUBJECT OF A REGULATION 22 INVESTIGATION AS A RESULT OF THE UNRESOLVED ISSUES BTWN REG CMDR AND THE GRP. GO - CFS Lofty Group Management
Sigh.
(troll)
Quote from: muscleandpluck on January 12, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
Shouldn't you be always be ready????
Volunteers professionally protecting communities for life!!
What a joke
(/troll)
18-02-14 11:10:17 MSG ONLY. Expressions of interest from qualified TAP operators for 5 day deployment please contact S/O imediatley. - MFS Port Lincoln Info
Anyone know where they are going?
Quote from: fire8029 on February 18, 2014, 10:10:54 AM
18-02-14 11:10:17 MSG ONLY. Expressions of interest from qualified TAP operators for 5 day deployment please contact S/O imediatley. - MFS Port Lincoln Info
Anyone know where they are going?
Victoria. Coal mine fire??
18-02-14 11:02:19 PLEASE CHECK EMAILS REGARDING OUTCOME OF MEETING WITH CHIEF. - CFS Aldgate Info
All ok in the hills?
Quote from: FFGAZZ on February 18, 2014, 11:52:43 AM
18-02-14 11:02:19 PLEASE CHECK EMAILS REGARDING OUTCOME OF MEETING WITH CHIEF. - CFS Aldgate Info
All ok in the hills?
Probably in relation to this:
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on January 10, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
15:14:14 10-01-14 LOFT MGT: HI ALL BE ADVISED THE I AM NOW SUBJECT OF A REGULATION 22 INVESTIGATION AS A RESULT OF THE UNRESOLVED ISSUES BTWN REG CMDR AND THE GRP. GO - CFS Lofty Group Management
Quote from: Ferret on February 18, 2014, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: fire8029 on February 18, 2014, 10:10:54 AM
18-02-14 11:10:17 MSG ONLY. Expressions of interest from qualified TAP operators for 5 day deployment please contact S/O imediatley. - MFS Port Lincoln Info
Anyone know where they are going?
Victoria. Coal mine fire??
Correct. Port Lincolns aerial is down at 20 to train operators for deployment
8 Firefighters and 1 Commander flew out on Qantas flight 16:30hrs Wednesday afternoon for deployment to Hazelwood Mine.
09-03-14 10:57:12 SLSB: REMINDER WORKING BEE AT STATION TOMORROW FROM 1300 FOLLOWED BY BBQ DINNER.OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW 27 PLAYFORD CRES ALSO IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET LT 1 - CFS Salisbury Info
I've seen a few pages along these lines...are Salisbury CFS moving??
Quote from: Bagyassfirey on March 09, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
09-03-14 10:57:12 SLSB: REMINDER WORKING BEE AT STATION TOMORROW FROM 1300 FOLLOWED BY BBQ DINNER.OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW 27 PLAYFORD CRES ALSO IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET LT 1 - CFS Salisbury Info
I've seen a few pages along these lines...are Salisbury CFS moving??
Yeah that's their new station.
Just another rented shed a bit further from the current one, lease must have run out?
18:37:47 13-03-14 Replacement pumper now at station and fully operational. Members are encouraged to attend station now for a rundown on operation. - CFS Mount Barker Info
Red one or white one?
Red
Really :?
And you saw this with your own eyes then, or maybe you were dreaming??? :-D
Anyone from Salisbury CFS here?
Does it annoy you that the FFRS pager messages come through with the CFSRES alert tone?
It goes to the response capcode, which means the Para Group Officers receive the message too.
FFRS ALERT: DRIVER AVAILABILITY IS BELOW MINIMUM NUMBERS: DRIVERS PLEASE UPDA TE FFRS *CFSRES - CFS Salisbury Response
FFRS ALERT: DRIVER AVAILABILITY IS BELOW MINIMUM NUMBERS: DRIVERS PLEASE UPDA TE FFRS *CFSRES - CFS Para Group Officers Response
Edit: No beef - just curious.
Trying the response tone on the auto alerts whilst we just get everyone on-board with maintaining their status. will go back to normal message tome once everyone gets the hang of it.
Quote from: muscleandpluck on March 14, 2014, 03:24:37 PM
Really :?
And you saw this with your own eyes then, or maybe you were dreaming??? :-D
Definitely red, fleet 185, seen it several times.
Quote from: muscleandpluck on March 14, 2014, 03:24:37 PM
Really :?
And you saw this with your own eyes then, or maybe you were dreaming??? :-D
Nah M & P, I don't dream of red trucks... actually, I don't even dream of fire trucks... got far more interesting things to dream about!
Pip
UPST INFO: WEATHER PERMITTING BA TRAINING TONIGHT ALL BA OPERATORS PLEASE MAKE A EFFORT AND PLENTY TO DO FOR NON BA CHEERS DANNY - CFS Upper Sturt Info
Weather permitting
Gee hope its not too smokey or hot either!!!!
2 Tablespoons of cement per member.
Quote from: muscleandpluck on March 31, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
Weather permitting
Gee hope its not too smokey or hot either!!!!
2 Tablespoons of cement per member.
Don't forget we also have a legislated responsibility to provide a safe working and training environment for our members.
Not sure what weather they're worried about tonight, but continuing training if it's unsafe is actually illegal. Perhaps you should brush up on your WHS legislation next time you're waiting for a pot of cement to brew? :-P
Quote from: muscleandpluck on March 31, 2014, 12:22:49 PM
UPST INFO: WEATHER PERMITTING BA TRAINING TONIGHT ALL BA OPERATORS PLEASE MAKE A EFFORT AND PLENTY TO DO FOR NON BA CHEERS DANNY - CFS Upper Sturt Info
Weather permitting
Gee hope its not too smokey or hot either!!!!
2 Tablespoons of cement per member.
Muscleandpluck, when trolling please try not to forget the SAMFS also has it's own extreme weather policy in regards to training...
MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 04/04/14 12:30 RESPOND AIRCRAFT HEAVY, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @ADELAIDE AIRPORT LOT 42 SIR DONALD BRADM DR ADELAIDE AIRPORT,MAP:ADL 128 M 1,TG 182, ==DIVERT TO ADELAIDE LANDING 1240HRS IL DANGEROUS GOODS. GATE 7. 266POB ==SMOKE IN COCKPIT :ADL2015 APK361 BPK451 CAR30 SMGMTGRP WDV243 : - MFS Brooklyn Park BPK451
Quote from: FFGAZZ on April 04, 2014, 11:22:20 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 04/04/14 12:30 RESPOND AIRCRAFT HEAVY, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @ADELAIDE AIRPORT LOT 42 SIR DONALD BRADM DR ADELAIDE AIRPORT,MAP:ADL 128 M 1,TG 182, ==DIVERT TO ADELAIDE LANDING 1240HRS IL DANGEROUS GOODS. GATE 7. 266POB ==SMOKE IN COCKPIT :ADL2015 APK361 BPK451 CAR30 SMGMTGRP WDV243 : - MFS Brooklyn Park BPK451
http://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/22375503/smoke-forces-plane-to-land-in-adelaide/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/22375503/smoke-forces-plane-to-land-in-adelaide/)
Come on moderator
Don't remove my post, just because you find them too spicey?!?!?!?!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Hey Norbers the reason it was weather permitting was because we do most of our training in the national park, they had predicted rain etc and if it's too wet we could not get to where we do it. You guys are pathetic!! Get the full story before making assumptions! I don't care what other brigades do, I look after my guys because we are a small brigade!! Grow up and find something productive to sit there and nag on you arm chair warriors
11-04-14 13:36:19 OAKB: ALL APPLIANCES HAVE K STATUS TRIAL GRN RADIO NOW. PLEASE USE K1 AND K5 + VERBAL CONFIRM TO AF FOR ALL INC. LT1 - CFS Oakbank / Balhannah Info
MFS: *CFSRES INC0002 14/04/14 01:33 RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY P2 THOMPSONS BEACH RD DUBLIN MAP:C/205 54,CALLER:THUY 043292001% ==3 CARS BOGGED ON WAY TO THOMPSONS BEACH, BEEN THERE FOR 7 HOURS. :EDI20 A :
SES - EDINBURGH
Why would you wait 7 hours to call for help. Forcing volunteers to get up at 1st.
Quote from: HeavyRescue on April 14, 2014, 06:19:09 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC0002 14/04/14 01:33 RESPOND VEHICLE RECOVERY P2 THOMPSONS BEACH RD DUBLIN MAP:C/205 54,CALLER:THUY 043292001% ==3 CARS BOGGED ON WAY TO THOMPSONS BEACH, BEEN THERE FOR 7 HOURS. :EDI20 A :
SES - EDINBURGH
Why would you wait 7 hours to call for help. Forcing volunteers to get up at 1st.
Perhaps exhausting all options of self rescue, including trying for local contractors before wasting volunteers time.
17-04-14 08:04:49 SLSB:REMINDER BRIGADE IS OFFLINE AS OF NOW WHILST SAGRN WORKS OCCUR AT NEW STATION TODAY.I WILL ADVISE ONCE WE ARE BACK ONLINE.ENJOY A PAGER FREE DAY! LT 1 - CFS Salisbury Info
I would have thought you could still operate the appliances?
I thought the same, hate to say it, but it wouldn't really matter if they were off the run, the MFS cover it.
06-05-14 18:25:32 HOW MANY FIRE FIGHTERS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT GLOBE ? FIND OUT TONIGHT TRAINING AT 19.30 HOURS. - CFS Cudlee Creek Info
LOL
10-05-14 06:44:00 YEAH BABY.....FAG VOICE - MFS Elizabeth ELZ331
It's great that the MFS is so professional....
This needs to stop, why page the SES
MFS: *CFSRES INC0005 11/05/14 01:08 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL ADELAIDE 254 WRIGHT ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 C14,TG C156 T186, :ADL204 : - MFS Adelaide Turnout
Then
MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 11/05/14 01:08 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL P2 : @PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL ADELAIDE 254 WRIGHT ST ADELAIDE MAP:ADL 118 C14,CALLER: == STOKES LITTER REQ TO EXTRICATE PERSON FROM PSTAIRS :SNOTIFY C WAD20 R : - SES Western Adelaide Info
CREW STAND BY MFS CONDUCTING SIT REP - SES Western Adelaide Info
and more
MFS: WAD - STOP FOR INC 001 FROM MFS THANKS. - SES Western Adelaide Info
Quote from: tft on May 11, 2014, 12:51:34 AM
This needs to stop, why page the SES
MFS: *CFSRES INC0005 11/05/14 01:08 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL ADELAIDE 254 WRIGHT ST ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 C14,TG C156 T186, :ADL204 : - MFS Adelaide Turnout
Then
MFS: *CFSRES INC0001 11/05/14 01:08 RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL P2 : @PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL ADELAIDE 254 WRIGHT ST ADELAIDE MAP:ADL 118 C14,CALLER: == STOKES LITTER REQ TO EXTRICATE PERSON FROM PSTAIRS :SNOTIFY C WAD20 R : - SES Western Adelaide Info
CREW STAND BY MFS CONDUCTING SIT REP - SES Western Adelaide Info
and more
MFS: WAD - STOP FOR INC 001 FROM MFS THANKS. - SES Western Adelaide Info
BECAUSE it was paged as a RESCUE which means we all get called for it. So rather than be a filtered and ignorantly and say 'why page the SES' like a fool how about you say why don't Adelaide fire send the page correctly and make it an assist SAAS job like it actually is.
It's like saying why are MFS called to rescue when the only service with any right to rescue and the ultimate agency for rescue is SAPOL!!
Quote from: NicholasBerry on May 11, 2014, 02:45:00 AM...why don't Adelaide fire send the page correctly and make it an assist SAAS job like it actually is...
I don't think 'Assist SAAS' exists as a response type in SACAD, so for these jobs they have a choice between either 'Assist resident' (which doesn't pick up a rescue resource) or 'Rescue General'.
Quote from: CFS_Firey on May 11, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: NicholasBerry on May 11, 2014, 02:45:00 AM...why don't Adelaide fire send the page correctly and make it an assist SAAS job like it actually is...
I don't think 'Assist SAAS' exists as a response type in SACAD, so for these jobs they have a choice between either 'Assist resident' (which doesn't pick up a rescue resource) or 'Rescue General'.
Actually it does exist it is just never used, there are several to choose from.
- Assist Resident
- Assist SAAS
- Assist Other ESO
- Assist non-ESO/Other
Even if they did "Assist Resident" which doesnt pick rescue, it isnt very hard to change the appliance that goes... Additionally the information that was given was that a rescue litter was required, if that was the case then any appliance sitting in Adelaide Station 20 would have been acceptable particularly 201, 202, 203 or 204.
"Assist SAAS" does NOT exist in SACAD in the form of a response type. At this point in time.
The "Assist SAAS" in SACAD was to be used as part of intercad ; ie a job SAAS comms would send to the fire service CAD requesting assistance, which would have its incident type updated based on the details of the call.
The agreed upon procedure by all agencies is that if the assistance is for man power only the closest resource will be responded as "Asisst Resident", if there is difficult extrication then the appropriate response type: eg, rescue general/industrial/heights is to be used to respond special resources.
Mr Berry, do some research, its a request from SES management that anything like that is rescue general, so yeah, MFS comms are just doing what they are told.
MFS: *CFSRES INC0047 28/05/14 14:21 RESPOND HAZMAT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, :OPPOSITE NUMBER 6A BLACKER RD ALDINGA BEACH,MAP:ADL 223 D 7,TG 132, ==WORKMAN RUNNING GENERATOR INSIDE BUILDING NOW DIZZY. GENERATOR OFF NOW. :ALDB34P HZ PEARCE R1 MARTIN WLLG24P H : - CFS Willunga Response
And the idiot of the year award goes to?
10:44:31 29-05-14 CFS Volunteer Association Roadshow at Coonawarra Hall 19:30 hours tonight 29/05 . New look Emergency Services. Please be there to provide your input. Brian. - CFS R5 Info
30-05-14 14:29:05 MFS: *CFSRES INC0049 30/05/14 13:13 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, AUGUSTA HWY/COPPER COAST HWY PORT WAKEFIELD,MAP:C/233 54,TG 104, == CAR ROLLOVER UNSURE IF PERSON INSIDE :BALA34 LCHL34 NANT14 : - CFS Nantawarra Response
30-05-14 14:32:31 MFS: ADDITIONAL INFO FOR INC049 KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR PERSON WALKING ALONG ROAD ON THE WAY TO THE INCIDENT, DRIVER MISSING, ***DO NOT APPROCH PERSON DANGOURS*** CONTACT DGO ANDREW ALDRUM ON GRN104 IF PERSON SIGHTED - CFS Balaklava Response
11:11:22 31-05-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0041 31/05/14 11:10 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PIGGOTT RANGE RD/CHURCH HILL RD OLD NOARLUNGA,MAP:ADL 196 C10,TG C176 T186, == FLAMES & SMOKE SIGHTED AT MEATWORKS FACTORY : DL205 CAR40 CDN431 CDN439 SEA469 SEAF34P :
Quote from: bajdas on May 31, 2014, 11:05:46 AM
11:11:22 31-05-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0041 31/05/14 11:10 RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PIGGOTT RANGE RD/CHURCH HILL RD OLD NOARLUNGA,MAP:ADL 196 C10,TG C176 T186, == FLAMES & SMOKE SIGHTED AT MEATWORKS FACTORY : DL205 CAR40 CDN431 CDN439 SEA469 SEAF34P :
It was only a small rubbish burn. Resident had a permit.
18:26:38 13-06-14 Hi All I have just taken the Onkaparinga SES offline until further notice.= Thanks you for your patients with these issues. Peter - CFS Lobethal Info
Am curious as to the happy valley resource rather than the morphett vale resource - not criticising just curious..??
Quote1800163 07:49:31 21-06-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0024 21/06/14 07:49 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAINS RD/PIGGOTT RANGE RD ONKAPARINGA HILLS,MAP:ADL 178 F13,TG 134, ==SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER :CDN439 HPPYPUMP :
MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Google map that intersection and you'll see why, a lot closer to Happy Valley.
Quote from: straps on June 21, 2014, 07:33:48 AM
Am curious as to the happy valley resource rather than the morphett vale resource - not criticising just curious..??
Quote1800163 07:49:31 21-06-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0024 21/06/14 07:49 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, BAINS RD/PIGGOTT RANGE RD ONKAPARINGA HILLS,MAP:ADL 178 F13,TG 134, ==SINGLE CAR ROLLOVER :CDN439 HPPYPUMP :
MFS Christie Downs CDN439
Hey mate.
That intersection (and the first part of Bains Rd) is Happy's area.
Morphett Vale's area is from Lovick Rd heading South, and the other 2/3 of Bains Rd.
Fair call and thanks gents... ;)
26-06-14 08:11:05 MFS: *CFSRES INC0022 26/06/14 08:10 RESPOND AIRCRAFT LIGHT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 143 KRONDORF RD KRONDORF,MAP:C/179C 54,TG 095, ==LIGHT PLANE CRASH 2 OCCUPANTS INSIDE :NTPAPUMP R TAND34P : - CFS Angaston Group Officers Response
28-06-14 23:06:42 MFS: *CFSRES INC0087 28/06/14 23:06 RESPOND MINOR CLEANUP, ALARM LEVEL: 1, OSMOND TCE NORWOOD,MAP:ADL 119 C 8,TG C151 T191, == 2 CAR MVA INVOLVING POLICE CAR OUTSIDE NORWOOD POLICE STATION :BLP211 : - MFS Beulah Park BLP211
Why is this still happening.???
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08-07-14 15:48:11 BA71 PR: 2 - WAIKERIE SWK 1 A 3 D0572 Disp: 15:47 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Unit Barmera
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08-07-14 16:28:57 MFS: *CFSRES INC0056 08/07/14 16:28 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, STURT HWY/IAN OLIVER DR WAIKERIE,MAP:SWK 2 C 5,TG 205, ==TRUCK V CAR /ONE PERSON TRAPPED /OUTSIDE HONDA DEALERSHIP :WAIKPUMP WAIK RES H : - CFS Mid Murray Group Officers Response
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40 minute delay, this is a joke and makes us all look bad.
Whoa there Nelly, how do you know the SAAS page is for that job particularly looking at this page, the time and the MAP reference..
16:27:45 08-07-14 FLEX-A ALPHA 1600 BA71 PR: 2 - WAIKERIE SWK 2 C 5 D0618 Disp: 16:27 OTHER EMERG - SAAS Barmera -
These pager messages scheiße me
WRGCC-MILL-: AGM WATTLE RANGE OPS BRIGADE 6TH AUGUST 2014 ELECTION YEAR ALL MEMBERS REQUIRED TO ATTEND 7PM START 17/07/2014 5:55:50 PM - CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Info
not appropriate to tell people that they must attend, people have work and other commitments. See this happen far too often, some better wording would be good. Like attend if possible, apologies to mr XYZ thanks.
07:21:13 01-09-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0010 01/09/14 07:20 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, VALLEY VIEW DR/LOWER NORTH EAST RD HIGHBURY,MAP:ADL 96 K11,TG C152 T182, ==2 CAR MVA. 1 PERSON TILL IN CAR :ADL202 PDS229 : - MFS Paradise 221 Response
Paradise now running a pump/rescue? Is that to relinquish some RCR response area from Athelstone CFS and/or ease workload on 204?
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on September 01, 2014, 01:34:13 PM
07:21:13 01-09-14 MFS: *CFSRES INC0010 01/09/14 07:20 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, VALLEY VIEW DR/LOWER NORTH EAST RD HIGHBURY,MAP:ADL 96 K11,TG C152 T182, ==2 CAR MVA. 1 PERSON TILL IN CAR :ADL202 PDS229 : - MFS Paradise 221 Response
Paradise now running a pump/rescue? Is that to relinquish some RCR response area from Athelstone CFS and/or ease workload on 204?
Ultimately just another resource in the system.
With the way SACAD works though it will ease some of the pressure on 329/204 to the north eastern & eastern suburbs and better response times for rescue to the area.
23-09-14 08:45:17 Reminder meeting tonight at 1930 hrs. SA time Apsley hotel for talk on new CFA radios that are going to be fitted to our appliances. Cheers DGO 3 23/09/2014 - CFS Naracoorte Group Officers Info
I also found this interesting. Why would they need CFA radio's? wouldnt they use GRN aswell?
They can't use the existing GRN or VHF's as the Vic & SA radio systems aren't compatible.
Pip
Quote from: Pipster on September 23, 2014, 05:53:54 PM
They can't use the existing GRN or VHF's as the Vic & SA radio systems aren't compatible.
Pip
We had big issues with this at the Eden Valley fire with the NSW crews. Had to end up communicating via general UHF channels.
Good on them for sorting that one out! Wonders whether it is just the SE that are getting them or all border brigades (eg Pinnaroo).
No different to the comms problems between CFS & SES who use the same GRN network but with different allocated frequencies/chipsets...... Been struggling to get that one fixed on a local level for years and finally M/B SES have had the CFS frequencies opened up on their GRN.
All the SES GRB radios we have/I've used can access the full range of CFS/MFS talkgroups as well as the MA talkgoups, what needs to be changed is the policy for talking on Comms between agency's, especially SES to MFS.
15:01:26 30-09-14 SLSB COULD ALL DRIVERS, SCBA AND RCR CREW KEEP FFRS UP TO DATE AND RESPOND WHENEVER POSSIBLE PLEASE. WITH ONGOING TALK OF SECTOR REFORM WE NEED TO KEEP DEFAULTS TO A MINIMUM. SAL CAPT - CFS Salisbury Info
not the type of pager message i would send..lol
14:29:16 03-10-14 SLSB FYI : R2 COMMANDER AND MINISTER PICCOLO WILL BE IN THE STATION AROUND 11OOHRS TOMORROW FOR A SRT MATTER. NO CREW ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND. RESPOND AS NORMAL. REGARDS SAL CAPT. - CFS Salisbury Info
Quote from: FFGAZZ on September 23, 2014, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Pipster on September 23, 2014, 05:53:54 PM
They can't use the existing GRN or VHF's as the Vic & SA radio systems aren't compatible.
Pip
We had big issues with this at the Eden Valley fire with the NSW crews. Had to end up communicating via general UHF channels.
The VHFs are not completely incompatible with each other. Whilst they don't share the same channel numbers, some channels share the same transmit AND recieve frequencies. We discovered this at Bangor. For future reference playing with the radios for 5 minutes will save days of heart ache. Don't quote me but RFS channel 12 and CFS channel 5 comes to mind as able to talk to eachother. I've had a few beers since then so I could be wrong
Quote from: senti@nt on October 19, 2014, 09:15:13 AM
The VHFs are not completely incompatible with each other. Whilst they don't share the same channel numbers, some channels share the same transmit AND recieve frequencies. We discovered this at Bangor. For future reference playing with the radios for 5 minutes will save days of heart ache. Don't quote me but RFS channel 12 and CFS channel 5 comes to mind as able to talk to eachother. I've had a few beers since then so I could be wrong
There is a channel mapping document out there that lists what aligns to what. I would assume it can be requested from the comms guys in State if needed.
26-10-14 13:04:55 MFS: *CFSRES INC0037 26/10/14 11:08 RESPOND RESCUE FROM HEIGHTS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SILVER ST PETERBOROUGH,MAP:SPT 1 K 9,TG 194, ==CNR MAIN STREET MALE CLIMBING TOWER :ADL205 PBGH34P PBR559 R4 HOLD 01 : - MFS Adelaide ADL205
Now that's a drive.
Quote from: FFGAZZ on October 26, 2014, 11:38:18 AM
26-10-14 13:04:55 MFS: *CFSRES INC0037 26/10/14 11:08 RESPOND RESCUE FROM HEIGHTS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, SILVER ST PETERBOROUGH,MAP:SPT 1 K 9,TG 194, ==CNR MAIN STREET MALE CLIMBING TOWER :ADL205 PBGH34P PBR559 R4 HOLD 01 : - MFS Adelaide ADL205
Now that's a drive.
Got a stop in Gawler
14:38:10 15-12-14 ADVISED BY REGION LYNDOCH NOW SET FOR DUAL RESPONSE WITH WILLIAMSTOWN 24P/RESCUE. IMPORTANT READ PAGER MESSAGES RESPOND ONLY RCR INCIDENTS. - CFS Lyndoch Info
Are Williamston having crewing difficulties? If so, good to see a common sense approach. Don't know about the bit about having to receive all response messages associated with Williamstown 24P R - would be quite annoying.
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on December 15, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
14:38:10 15-12-14 ADVISED BY REGION LYNDOCH NOW SET FOR DUAL RESPONSE WITH WILLIAMSTOWN 24P/RESCUE. IMPORTANT READ PAGER MESSAGES RESPOND ONLY RCR INCIDENTS. - CFS Lyndoch Info
Are Williamston having crewing difficulties? If so, good to see a common sense approach. Don't know about the bit about having to receive all response messages associated with Williamstown 24P R - would be quite annoying.
Saw a page a couple of days ago from Lyndoch saying they had some Holmatro gear on loan.
Quote from: Raven on December 15, 2014, 07:36:45 PM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on December 15, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
14:38:10 15-12-14 ADVISED BY REGION LYNDOCH NOW SET FOR DUAL RESPONSE WITH WILLIAMSTOWN 24P/RESCUE. IMPORTANT READ PAGER MESSAGES RESPOND ONLY RCR INCIDENTS. - CFS Lyndoch Info
Are Williamston having crewing difficulties? If so, good to see a common sense approach. Don't know about the bit about having to receive all response messages associated with Williamstown 24P R - would be quite annoying.
Saw a page a couple of days ago from Lyndoch saying they had some Holmatro gear on loan.
Think that page was regarding servicing. They have had Holmatro Rapid Intervention kit for many years.
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on December 15, 2014, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Raven on December 15, 2014, 07:36:45 PM
Quote from: CFS_fire32 on December 15, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
14:38:10 15-12-14 ADVISED BY REGION LYNDOCH NOW SET FOR DUAL RESPONSE WITH WILLIAMSTOWN 24P/RESCUE. IMPORTANT READ PAGER MESSAGES RESPOND ONLY RCR INCIDENTS. - CFS Lyndoch Info
Are Williamston having crewing difficulties? If so, good to see a common sense approach. Don't know about the bit about having to receive all response messages associated with Williamstown 24P R - would be quite annoying.
Saw a page a couple of days ago from Lyndoch saying they had some Holmatro gear on loan.
Think that page was regarding servicing. They have had Holmatro Rapid Intervention kit for many years.
I lose track of who has gear, few brigades around who don't seem to have gear according to SACAD.
What is 2011 running as?
24-03-15 09:31:55 MFS: *CFSRES INC0028 24/03/15 09:31 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 53 THORNTON ST KENSINGTON,MAP:ADL 119 F10,TG C151 T191, ==ASSIST SAAS WITH PATIENT LIFT PRIORTY 2 :ADL2011 : - MFS Adelaide ADL203
24-03-15 09:33:51 MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 24/03/15 09:33 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 371 SOUTH TCE ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 M15,TG C156 T186, ==ELECTRICAL BOX OUTSIDE ST ANDREWS ARCING AND SPARKING :ADL203 : - MFS Adelaide ADL203
Quote from: fire8029 on March 24, 2015, 08:15:24 AM
What is 2011 running as?
24-03-15 09:31:55 MFS: *CFSRES INC0028 24/03/15 09:31 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 53 THORNTON ST KENSINGTON,MAP:ADL 119 F10,TG C151 T191, ==ASSIST SAAS WITH PATIENT LIFT PRIORTY 2 :ADL2011 : - MFS Adelaide ADL203
24-03-15 09:33:51 MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 24/03/15 09:33 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 371 SOUTH TCE ADELAIDE,MAP:ADL 118 M15,TG C156 T186, ==ELECTRICAL BOX OUTSIDE ST ANDREWS ARCING AND SPARKING :ADL203 : - MFS Adelaide ADL203
Running as 211 for the moment while they're doing some training.
11:13:01 17-06-15 MFS: *CFSRES INC0055 17/06/15 11:12 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @THOMAS FOODS INTERNATIONAL #072/024 000 LAGOON RD MURRAY BRIDGE,MAP:ADL 349 N2,TG 195, ==INPUT DESC - FIP PRODUCTION BUILDING :MBKR34P MBR721 TLEM34P : - CFS Mount Barker Response
11:16:20 17-06-15 MFS: INC #55 - YOU ARE RESPONDING TO ASSIST FOR BA SUPPORT DUE TO MINIMAL CREW IN M/BRIDGE CURRENTLY (PER ACFO BUTTON). STRATEGIC TG-150, CMDTG-195. MBKR34P. - CFS Mount Barker Response
guess no closer brigades had 4 BA wearers as per mutual aid agreement