New Burnside Pumper

[Zippy]

http://www.ozfire.org/files/8005dii_img_2009_03_01_0388_100.jpg

http://www.ozfire.org/files/8005dii_img_2009_03_01_0389_154.jpg

Not everything cfs does is off-road...infact make it 10-20% of the work?


GREAT WORK BURNSIDE  :-)

[Hazmat206]

I just thought a majority of cfs trucks are built with the potential to go off road

[misterteddy]

I just thought a majority of cfs trucks are built with the potential to go off road

Haz....none of the 2 wheel drive appliances the CFS have are designed to go off-road. There are plenty of Type 2 pumpers, Rescue, Hazmat and still a couple of General Pumpers that are all 2WD.

In a well rounded service there is a need for both. I'd be really keen to see a cost/benefit comparison between a Type II and the Volvo Pumper Burnside has. The need for an Urban pump does exist in some Brigades (and just needing to pump lots of water doesnt constitute a need).

[Darren]

The cost of the Type 2 vs the Volvo would be to prohibitive, so unlikely we will ever see another one. Type was $330,000 equipped, from memory the Volvo was around $480,000 empty. Can't see CFS wanting to spend another $150,000 for what is essentially a better cab/chassis.

[Zippy]

how about this configuration:

Scania Chassis
burnside pumpers locker/body layout
Type 2's Pump. (Rosen, RH30??)

[tft]

I would love the Volvo, but at the end of the day I think the build eg pump, lockers is the most important part.
I could live with HINO and a good pump and locker layout

[Darren]

how about this configuration:

Scania Chassis
burnside pumpers locker/body layout
Type 2's Pump. (Rosen, RH30??)

Nah the Darley pump they have is awesome, I reckon if you jumped on a CFA type 4 heavy order you would be happy.

[misterteddy]

how about this configuration:

Scania Chassis
burnside pumpers locker/body layout
Type 2's Pump. (Rosen, RH30??)

zippy I've driven both a Volvo...and a Scania, both late models. Personally, I thought the Volvo setup was better. Don't be swayed by red-envy, theres a reason they have the Scanias, and it doesnt have too much to do with it being a better truck chassis

[Zippy]

red envy? who says im relating volvo/scania to that....more like  BA Seat EnvY!!  the CFS Standard Chassis cant provide space (and leg room) for BA Seats.

[Zippy]

how about this configuration:

Scania Chassis
burnside pumpers locker/body layout
Type 2's Pump. (Rosen, RH30??)

Nah the Darley pump they have is awesome, I reckon if you jumped on a CFA type 4 heavy order you would be happy.

Question is...would CFS...and would they be happy lol.

[6739264]

Question is...would CFS...and would they be happy lol.

Question is, do you know there is more to this firefighting business than Scanias and 'cool stuff'?

There is far more to building a truck than just "Wow, this looks good and everyone else uses it"

Anyway:
It's great to see that Burnside has pushed the envelope and has ended up with a very good looking piece of firefighting kit, that also happens to be functional! (Who'd have thought?) They even managed to move away from the old faithful "We all need Scanias" line of thinking.

Yeah, there are a few bits and pieces that I personally don't really like, but at the same time, there is no use getting into a shitfight about personal opinions, when the truck as a whole works well and is a monumental win for the CFS brigades and pumper design.

Any reason that the CFS still wont look into the full height rear end, like the CFA/MFB/NSWFB have dabbled with? It seems to allow a fair amount more stowage.

As I said, well done to Burnside, it has certainly shown the rest of the state what is achievable in terms of appliance design. If only we could all end up with such a shithot looking truck.

(Just don't tell anyone who used CoQ as a justification for the pumper that the thing still can't supply a Bronto ;))

[Mike]

It certainly appears to be quite functional, however ill reserve my opinion for when i actually see it stowed.

Some may think im a little sick, but the checker doesnt look that bad....

Top effort by all involved :)

[jaff]

It certainly appears to be quite functional, however ill reserve my opinion for when i actually see it stowed.

Some may think im a little sick, but the checker doesnt look that bad....

Top effort by all involved :)

"NO MIKE" we dont think that your a little sick....... bordering on retarded..yeh! :-D

[Gungellan34]

Even looks like a real firetruck!
Not a council truck :-D

[Zippy]

exactly :D

[Mike]

"NO MIKE" we dont think that your a little sick....... bordering on retarded..yeh! :-D

:-P  :-)

[6739264]

Even looks like a real firetruck!
Not a council truck :-D

Oh, in what magical place do you live in?

Firetrucks are RED, Council trucks are WHITE! :P

[Zippy]

Firetrucks are RED, Council trucks are WHITE!

Correct me if im wrong, but the main reason behind our trucks being White is Ash Wednesday and the Rate of new appliances built...not enough time to get them painted Red?

Wonder what the 2009 Emergency Fire service would be like in SA?

[6739264]

Correct me if im wrong, but the main reason behind our trucks being White is Ash Wednesday and the Rate of new appliances built...not enough time to get them painted Red?

Wonder what the 2009 Emergency Fire service would be like in SA?

Not enough time to paint trucks red? Hahaha, congrats on taking that one hook, line and sinker.

While you're at it, can you get me a long stand and a left handed screwdriver?

[Shiner]

Good to see everyone wearing appropriate PPE with good traffic control in place in the photo above :roll:

Nice looking truck and the battenburg deffo works when out and about, have experienced it on the freeway several times now.

[6739264]

Good to see everyone wearing appropriate PPE with good traffic control in place in the photo above :roll:

How are those sour grapes treating you?

[Shiner]

I'd make the same comment no matter what brigade, appliance, situation.  This forum is a public one, the photo is viewable by anyone/everyone, surely we should try and do the 'right' thing in the public eye?

Regardless of that and being in no way up to speed with the politics etc that have followed this around, the truck looks fantastic and should easily be up to the jobs it will be put to.

I can however relate to the brigades position and some of the negative and positive reactions and comments being a member of the brigade that houses the Region 3 Hook Truck come Tanker.......

[Zippy]

It'll be a awesome crowd control vehicle in the *future*...for when recession/depression hits.   :evil:  :mrgreen:  :-)

[bittenyakka]

What kind of supply does a Bronto actually require? Doesn;t it depend on how much water they want at the tip? and sometimes how much water you can actually get?

[SA Firey]

Anyone see CH7 News tonight....were Dads Army are'nt we, but Arthur hinted at brigades able to do their own buildups for "smaller appliances" :wink: