Mt Bryan truck rollover

[Zippy]

hehe yeh!  good show wasnt it....i still remember the episodes when there were fires in mt thomas hehe

[bittenyakka]

SEATBELTS are worn at all reasonable times.

Now what are non reasonable times I know people who would debate this till the cows come home.

[RescueHazmat]

Was unaware it left the member quadraplegic..  :-(

[Camo]

yes it is very sad.

Good luck to him & i hope him & his family survive this trauma.

[mengcfs]

SEATBELTS are worn at all reasonable times.

Now what are non reasonable times I know people who would debate this till the cows come home.

Don't go on a quote from the paper. Get you Captain to show you the new COSO. They will have the updated ones to stick over the old. That's the info you need to go by :wink:

[bittenyakka]

I know and I have seen it it pretty much says seatbelts at all times.

[5271rescue]

I think it is a good call that we do wear seatbelts,as we have seen not only in this state but if we where to wear seatbelts then the risks to ones self is reduced.Having said that I know that its going to be hard to enforce this rule but lets look at this as a way of solving some problems. You still will have crews standing on the work deck chasing a grass or scrub fire but what the NEW COSO is saying that while you are not attacking or fighting the fire that you sit down and put the seatbelt on for your own safety.Is that asking to much of members??? I don't think so and from what has happended to one member of the service I think its a timely warning that we should all take better care of our own safety and that of our crews that we are entrusted to lead from the time we leave the station till the time we get back if ITS NOT ON PUT IT ON, and come home safe.

[alphaone]

I think it is a good call that we do wear seatbelts,as we have seen not only in this state but if we where to wear seatbelts then the risks to ones self is reduced.Having said that I know that its going to be hard to enforce this rule but lets look at this as a way of solving some problems. You still will have crews standing on the work deck chasing a grass or scrub fire but what the NEW COSO is saying that while you are not attacking or fighting the fire that you sit down and put the seatbelt on for your own safety.Is that asking to much of members??? I don't think so and from what has happended to one member of the service I think its a timely warning that we should all take better care of our own safety and that of our crews that we are entrusted to lead from the time we leave the station till the time we get back if ITS NOT ON PUT IT ON, and come home safe.

I agree, it only takes a second to put on a seatbelt and that could be the only thing that saves your life. We wear a seatbelt in our cars, or atleast better be, so why would travling to a job be any different.

[Camo]

at most there should 6 people on the truck. 3 on the back 3 in the front.

1 on pump & 2 on branches. 


Who is sitting down?

[bittenyakka]

um the 3 in the front. it is a bit hard to stand up in the cab? 8-) :-o :?

[24P]

um the 3 in the front. it is a bit hard to stand up in the cab? 8-) :-o :?

You'd be surprised what they can do at Compton.  :-)

[RescueHazmat]

um the 3 in the front. it is a bit hard to stand up in the cab? 8-) :-o :?

Some older appliances have dickie seats.. (Centre seats)  - Horrible if your the poor driver !  .. I would suggest if you wanted 6, four in the back, two in the front.

[Pipster]

Only three seatbelts in the back...   :-(

Pip

[Camo]

You'd be surprised what they can do at Compton.  :-)

We are a flexible mob.

[SA Firey]

Having been in an appliance which rolled during the floods at Langhorne Creek, and being in the dickie seat at the time, my option to always wear a seat belt stopped me from either serious injury or drowning,as the left side of the appliance was submerged :-o

Wear them everytime guys...whats your life worth :?

It is not uncommon to get the dirty looks as you tell your crews to wear them but we are responsible for our own and others safety!!

[Camo]

um the 3 in the front. it is a bit hard to stand up in the cab? 8-) :-o :?

alright smarty pants!  :-D

[Camo]

Does anyone know if there has been a fund setup for the firefighter injured in this accident?

Im sure there would be plenty of people willing to help this family out as some of that equipment needed can be very expensive.

[5271rescue]

Not sure,but one would hope that the family are being taken care of by the insurance that CFS have on all its members but it is never enough..May be the VFBA can put some more light onto this one....

[kat]

I believe the VFBA was going all out, as you would expect, to support this member who has tragically been left quadraplegic by this accident.

But why are we still responding to incidents every single day with drivers who have had no driver training beyond attaining their licence?

Any why do we get a couple of million in the state budget for training in rural bushfire suppression while this critical issue continues to be bandaided?

[RescueHazmat]

Because if someone made the decision that tomorrow no appliance was to attend an incident until the drivers 'all' took driver training, 95% of the incidents that occur will not be attended..

It all comes down to being a volutneer service, and liability.. - To be honest, I think the ratio of accidents to non accidents is pretty good..

Ofcourse any incident involving harm / injury / death to a Vol. isn't acceptable, but unfortunately these things do happen..

[24P]

Do the MFS do any defensive/offensive driver training?

[5271rescue]

rescuehazmat,you are correct but CFS does have a duty of care to its members and they are only following what worksafe want them to do..CFA is also going down this track again. If its there just put it on and come home safe.