Responding Appliances

Scania_1 · October 28, 2006, 06:35:48 PM

Here`s a question for you. You are the OIC of a CFS appliance heading to a house fire. You are told that there have been mulitple calls and you have an appliance from another station responding also. You have minimal crew and only 2 BA operators, the other appliance responding has only one BA operator. You get there to find that the house is quite high and your ladders wont reach the roof and the house is burning well.
After hearing all this would you request a big red truck (BRT) to back you up?? Rembering that the crew of that appliance will have a big ladder and a crew of BA operators and that the BRT is only 5-10 minutes away and closer than any other CFS resources.
If you say no, you wouldnt request it I would ask you why not?

Pixie · October 28, 2006, 06:48:15 PM

I would Every Time!! They are just sitting there constantly crewed

pumprescue · October 28, 2006, 07:20:04 PM

even in the case i think old mate is talking about being retained BRT, I would send the BRT and if they have one a jet if it is well involved...but that would mean some vollies would have to swallow their pride.

bittenyakka · October 29, 2006, 07:37:21 AM

I would call for the closest appliance avalible and if that happened to be a BRT then it would come along.

I would want it more for the BA operaters than the ladder.

Scania_1 · October 29, 2006, 09:16:28 AM

Members of the public dont really care what color the fire truck is. LOL

Ryan · October 29, 2006, 09:49:58 AM

has anyone ever heard someone say "oh damn it, I was hoping for a red truck"

:lol:

Robert-Robert34 · October 29, 2006, 10:09:44 AM

I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

RescueHazmat · October 29, 2006, 10:54:45 AM

If the BRT was closer than any other CFS station was, then hopefully you have EMA agreements in place where dual response was mandatory to such incidents.

5271rescue · October 29, 2006, 11:38:06 AM

Well by the time the BRT from mount gambier got here it would be all over red rover,,,,,now why not use a local lift truck from ETSA or better still if you have a tree loping firm in your town use them,,,I have used these in the past and works well and responce time was faster than if we needed the BRT......

SA Firey · October 29, 2006, 12:38:29 PM

Quote from: Robert34 on October 29, 2006, 10:09:44 AM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

Negative...bombers would only respond to rural job as they could not guarantee if any persons are inside.Ever been hit by 3 tonnes of water :-D

Firstly on a visual I would upgrade to 2nd Alarm and dont care whether they were CFS/MFS as a resource we are all here to do the same guys. I wouldnt commit any BA crews until backup arrived and would concentrate on RECEO.

Remember the golden rule protect life....Yours first :wink:

Scania_1 · October 29, 2006, 01:33:14 PM

Who said anything about Mt Gambier? You shouldnt be commiting BA operators to a job without an emeregency BA crew on scene or at least coming. That was my point.

Alan (Big Al) · October 29, 2006, 02:01:04 PM

I heard a bomber respond to a car fire up in the hills :? Wouldn't care who it is BRT or BWT whoever is closest gets the nod.

5271rescue · October 29, 2006, 03:30:13 PM

Long drive for CABA members here in the SOUTH EAST....

backburn · October 29, 2006, 04:56:23 PM

The BRT has turned up and the ladder is smaller than ours and they only had 2 CABA members and 1 rookie still in training first fire. This has happened.

Scania_1 · October 29, 2006, 04:59:21 PM

Well 2 BA operators is a crew when I went to school so at least you have an emergency crew and/or changeover crew.

Pipster · October 29, 2006, 06:24:30 PM

Quote from: safirey on October 29, 2006, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: Robert34 on October 29, 2006, 10:09:44 AM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

Negative...bombers would only respond to rural job as they could not guarantee if any persons are inside.Ever been hit by 3 tonnes of water :-D

Remember the golden rule protect life....Yours first :wink:

A few years ago, there was a house fire in the adjoinging brigades area...it was initially put through as a smoke sighting, bombers responded (as they were on auto repsonse during the FDS) and they did drop a load of water on the burning house..... :-)

Pip

SA Firey · October 29, 2006, 09:51:59 PM

Quote from: pipster on October 29, 2006, 06:24:30 PM
Quote from: safirey on October 29, 2006, 12:38:29 PM
Quote from: Robert34 on October 29, 2006, 10:09:44 AM
I know this may sound abit silly but if it is a 2 storey house why not call for one of the bombers to drop a load on it to put the fire out :lol: it would certainly save calling MFS

Negative...bombers would only respond to rural job as they could not guarantee if any persons are inside.Ever been hit by 3 tonnes of water :-D

Remember the golden rule protect life....Yours first :wink:

A few years ago, there was a house fire in the adjoinging brigades area...it was initially put through as a smoke sighting, bombers responded (as they were on auto response during the FDS) and they did drop a load of water on the burning house..... :-)

Pip

First time for everything obviously :-D

medevac · October 30, 2006, 07:06:56 AM

no...

firstly i would respond further surrounding CFS brigades as they are closer, for more BA operators, since 3 aint gonan cut it. hopefully these brigades would actually crew...

not much point responding MFS for ladders around here anyway, unless your talking about an actual ladder type truck? or a skyjet?

2090 · October 30, 2006, 12:25:50 PM

Quote from: medevac on October 30, 2006, 07:06:56 AM
no...

firstly i would respond further surrounding CFS brigades as they are closer, for more BA operators, since 3 aint gonan cut it. hopefully these brigades would actually crew...

not much point responding MFS for ladders around here anyway, unless your talking about an actual ladder type truck? or a skyjet?

Are you sure? The OP states that the MFS station is closer than any other CFS resource.

And by the way, what is with the MFS generally having ladders longer than the CFS?

medevac · October 30, 2006, 02:38:47 PM

mmm didnt read the thing very well... what i meant is respond the closest fire resources, not necessarily CFS....

was relating it to my own area....

Scania_1 · October 30, 2006, 04:50:25 PM

Yeah the CFS stations are further away than the BRT station. BTW this was a real job and guess what the MFS didnt get invited but CFS further away were called.

F.B.R.T · October 30, 2006, 08:06:06 PM

It's called one sided Enhanced Mutual Aid which is common down our way Ath! :-(

CFS_Firey · October 30, 2006, 10:58:16 PM

Out of curiosity, what length ladders do SAMFS carry on their GP Pumpers?

2090 · October 31, 2006, 02:04:32 AM

Around 9m I believe. Other states are longer still on their GP's

Alan (Big Al) · October 31, 2006, 08:50:16 AM

Quote from: ath on October 30, 2006, 04:50:25 PM
Yeah the CFS stations are further away than the BRT station. BTW this was a real job and guess what the MFS didnt get invited but CFS further away were called.

Let me guess, Fish Factory job???

Responding Appliances

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