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Offline Big Yellow Gongbeater

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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2006, 04:17:32 PM »
Quote from: Federer on October 04, 2006, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: Toast on October 04, 2006, 03:52:42 PM
Oh we take the pumper shopping all time!


I saw Gawler 359 parked outside Coles yesterday.

  Just filling their orders for denture paste, cat food and other essentials required for a retirement home..  :-D

  SAFIREY where does he get off?? It all depends on where you live, in this big wide state.  K99 may well be correct in his area, there are many instances of abuse of group vehicles that occur in different regions.  And yes people do contact SOCC when a CFS vehicle is where it shouldn't be, but HQ does a good job of smoothing things over without the guilty party ever knowing a complaint was made.
  It is for this very reason I support group vehicles being left in stations closest to the DGO's/ GO's home and they respond to collect the vehicle from there.  Afterall captains don't get to take a firetruck home just because they stood for and got elected to the position of captain. There are many instances and stories of how protective some DGO's/DO's become of "their" vehicles.  Sorry but its not "their" vehicle it is a group resource, meaning that they just get to utilize it, they don't own it.
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2006, 05:35:19 PM »
Quote from: K99 on October 04, 2006, 02:52:58 PM
More appliances!  Its funny how I see a lot of CFS vehicles parked outside Woolies or picking the kids up at school.
Must be good having your vehicle and fuel etc paid by someone else. :x

What if this vehicle is a part of the drivers salary package?  In almost every industry a vehicle is often part of their pay - why shouldn't they take it to the shops or to collect the kids?  Sure it may not be used for CFS work right then, but a Regional Officer may need to go ASAP to a job, he/she shouldnt have to go home first to collect the car.
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2006, 06:05:04 PM »
thats probably their excuse.
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2006, 06:08:31 PM »
Going off track here whats that got to do with CFS needing more appliances was the topic not which one is used as a shopping trolley :-D
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2006, 07:34:30 PM »
Where do I get off!!!!


Normally at Woolies! :-D :-D :-D
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2006, 08:00:21 PM »
Quote from: MrT on October 04, 2006, 05:35:19 PM
Quote from: K99 on October 04, 2006, 02:52:58 PM
More appliances!  Its funny how I see a lot of CFS vehicles parked outside Woolies or picking the kids up at school.
Must be good having your vehicle and fuel etc paid by someone else. :x

What if this vehicle is a part of the drivers salary package?  In almost every industry a vehicle is often part of their pay - why shouldn't they take it to the shops or to collect the kids?  Sure it may not be used for CFS work right then, but a Regional Officer may need to go ASAP to a job, he/she shouldnt have to go home first to collect the car.

 Good point Mr T, but unfortunately, staff members have very strict rules on the usage of CFS vehicles, and in the vast vast majority of cases private use is heavily restricted.  And in the vast majority of cases the vehicle isn't included in their package, it's just a means of getting to and from work.  Hope that clears that point up.

  Now to return to our normal transmission and thread topic
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2006, 03:36:36 PM »
Quote from: Big Yellow Gongbeater on October 04, 2006, 08:00:21 PM

 Good point Mr T, but unfortunately, staff members have very strict rules on the usage of CFS vehicles, and in the vast vast majority of cases private use is heavily restricted.  And in the vast majority of cases the vehicle isn't included in their package, it's just a means of getting to and from work.  Hope that clears that point up.

  Now to return to our normal transmission and thread topic

You know this because you work for CFS?
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2006, 03:42:38 PM »
wish some staff would park there work car in the drive way rather than on the foot path.........
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2006, 03:51:43 PM »
Why? - what difference does it make?
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2006, 03:59:04 PM »
In a small town when the council books the public for doing it and does not touch a car with red and blues on it does not look good....
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2006, 10:59:44 AM »
The new Hino's are 240kw and a normally aspirated engine so it looks like the slugs return.....Thanks ARTHUR :evil:   
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2006, 04:00:44 PM »
Is it kw or Hp because i believe the turbo Isuzu's are 165kw or 220hp??
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2006, 05:21:16 PM »
I don't believe it would be kW. - If it is, it would have to be from the crank.
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2006, 06:09:45 PM »
Quote from: safirey on October 10, 2006, 10:59:44 AM
The new Hino's are 240kw and a normally aspirated engine so it looks like the slugs return.....Thanks ARTHUR :evil:   

You 100% on that?  Cos i had heard they are turbo intercooled like the Izuzu's

I would find it strange that they arent either as this is Hino's matching model to the Izuzu so im told.
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2006, 06:16:31 PM »
Not 100% on that only going by what ive heard, but trying to get more info and model of Hino to clarify for everyone :-D
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2006, 08:00:32 PM »
I think it is the Hino FT.


Which are Turbo / intercooled Diesel 6's.
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« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2006, 08:13:51 PM »
From the CFS September 2006 Volunteer Magazine that I downloaded. (in page 2 of part 3 PDF).

New Appliance Technical Specifications:

All of the new appliances will be provided with air-conditioned crew cabs.
A new type of monitor is to be installed.

***NEW 34's***

25 to be delivered with one to be automatic transmission.

Hino Ranger Pro 8Z
CVM= 13 tonne
Drive= 4x4
Engine= 158kW @ 2500rpm - 608Nm @ 1500rpm
Transmission= 6 speed manual - Syncro in 2nd - 6th
Transfer Case= High range-1:1 Low Range 2.224:1
Brakes= Air over Hydralic with spring on rear wheels for Park Brake.

The articles states that roller shutters will be fitted "...waterous pumps coupled to Deutz motors..."

***NEW 34P's***

10 to be delivered.

Isuzu FTS750

CVM= 13.7 tonne
Drive= 4x4: Constant All Wheel Drive
Engine= 164kW @ 2400rpm - 668Nm @ 1500rpm
Transmission= 6 speed manual - Syncro in 2nd - 6th
Transfer Case= High range-1:1 Low Range 2.091:1
Brakes= Air over Hydralic with spring on rear wheels for Park Brake.

***New 14***

2 to be delivered, one a trial CAFS
based on a Mitsubishi Canter FE649

***Urban Pumpers***

2 to be delivered based on NSW Type 2 Pumper design

More details in the article......
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2006, 08:58:32 PM »
Found some more details on the Hino Ranger Pro 8Z crew...

http://www.hino.com.au/tk/tk_sub_08Zscw.pdf

It does state Turbo intercooled but with a theoretical top speed of 99 KmH. 
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« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2006, 09:01:04 PM »
Quote from: calspec on October 10, 2006, 08:58:32 PM
Found some more details on the Hino Ranger Pro 8Z crew...

http://www.hino.com.au/tk/tk_sub_08Zscw.pdf

It does state Turbo intercooled but with a theoretical top speed of 99 KmH. 

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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2006, 09:38:26 PM »
Quote from: calspec on October 10, 2006, 08:58:32 PM
Found some more details on the Hino Ranger Pro 8Z crew...

http://www.hino.com.au/tk/tk_sub_08Zscw.pdf

It does state Turbo intercooled but with a theoretical top speed of 99 KmH. 

Most likely due to weight / speed restrictions. (I believe there is a tonnage x speed restriction, someone with further knowledge may be able to better advise on this).


Which I believe emergency vehicles are exempt from in some areas when they meet various classifications...
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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2006, 11:09:45 PM »
I know that the current build of SES rescue truck which run the same motor as the Isuzu 34's (damn them so much less weight to carry :lol:) and because they are under a certain weight theres no speed limiter and have been know to do 140kph (yes very illegal) whereas the 34-P's are limited until the beacons are on then the limiter is off??

Auto 34 that sounds interesting.

34P with constant all wheel drive is that a typo or are they for real??
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2006, 05:45:04 AM »
Quote from: calspec on October 10, 2006, 08:58:32 PM
Found some more details on the Hino Ranger Pro 8Z crew...

http://www.hino.com.au/tk/tk_sub_08Zscw.pdf

It does state Turbo intercooled but with a theoretical top speed of 99 KmH. 

That would be probaly because any truck over 9? tonne has to be speed limited.  Even the old Hino's can get 110kph once there warm down a slight incline with a tail wind.
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2006, 08:52:22 AM »

our old hino 24 can sit on 110 but we seem to have got a good one as on strike teams we can always pull away from the rest of the group.
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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2006, 10:18:53 AM »
Quote from: MundCFS on October 10, 2006, 11:09:45 PM
I know that the current build of SES rescue truck which run the same motor as the Isuzu 34's (damn them so much less weight to carry :lol:) and because they are under a certain weight theres no speed limiter and have been know to do 140kph (yes very illegal) whereas the 34-P's are limited until the beacons are on then the limiter is off??

Auto 34 that sounds interesting.

34P with constant all wheel drive is that a typo or are they for real??

That is what the article stated. Checked the Isuzu spec sheet at http://www.isuzu.com.au/assets_dynamic//specsheets/66_101057AM/FSS%20550_FTS%20750_ARK0135.pdf#search=%22isuzu%20fts%20750%20specifications%22 & it states....

"...Full time 4WD with driver activated centre differential lock...." (bottom of page 2)
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Re: CFS NEEDING MORE APPLIANCE'S
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2006, 12:02:30 PM »
Hino Ranger Pro 8Z
CVM= 13 tonne
Drive= 4x4
Engine= 158kW @ 2500rpm - 608Nm @ 1500rpm
Transmission= 6 speed manual - Syncro in 2nd - 6th
Transfer Case= High range-1:1 Low Range 2.224:1
Brakes= Air over Hydralic with spring on rear wheels for Park Brake.

158kw even worse than I thought :-P
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