BA Seats in pumpers

[PF_]

True, money is always a problem.  Isnt PBI means to be paid for by the government or was that only the first batch?

[Toast]

why dont CFS have MFS type Cylinders and BA set up?  They are ergonomically better, lighter, more comfortable etc.  What we need is BA seats in our urban pumpers and new BA sets. 

There are excellent arguments for why we should ahve BA seats in appliances and Im sure CFS know this so the question is why havent they put them into use?  Time to make some changes and put them in amd get new BA sets. 

Not only money, but it'd be great if CFS could built a proper urban pumper for the seats to be in  :wink:

Our current sets aren't too bad, although CFW cylinders would be a huge bonus.

[Camo]

why dont CFS have MFS type Cylinders and BA set up?  They are ergonomically better, lighter, more comfortable etc.  What we need is BA seats in our urban pumpers and new BA sets. 

There are excellent arguments for why we should ahve BA seats in appliances and Im sure CFS know this so the question is why havent they put them into use?  Time to make some changes and put them in amd get new BA sets. 

Money
First we need to replsace half the trucks in the state. And get all the PBI gold etc

BINGO!!!

[TillerMan]

The biggest issue is the current trucks won't fit BA seats in because they are too big and your knees would be up against the drivers seat (except for the dennis of course).

The next issue is that we would have to get the lightweight cylinders as used at STC for compartment so as you weren't jumping out the truck with so much weight on your back.

[Smokeydk]

I was in Canberra recently.......ACT Fire use them..but admit theres been lot injured when getting out of their Scannia trucks..I bet OH&S has lot to do with it here..

[LFB06]

The next issue is that we would have to get the lightweight cylinders as used at STC for compartment so as you weren't jumping out the truck with so much weight on your back.

you dont jump out of the truck.

[Scania_1]

If you get out backwards and carefully you are no more likely to hurt yourself than without a set on. I dont have any problems.

[Camo]

Isnt that why we have fire curtains in the cab?  To swing off when getting out of the truck?

[TillerMan]

Scania have recently upgraded the cab to allow for this with fold down steps that fold down as the door is opened, this should make things easier.

[bittenyakka]

It only occured to me the other day but how comfortable is a BA seat when you aren't useing the BA set. Would it be reasonable to sit there whilst driving off on a strike team for a couple of hours?

[Ryan]

Why would you be taking an urban pumper to a strike team?  Thats what 34 is for.

[Scania_1]

Yeah the back plate is a bit firm to sit against. Not too bad though. The drivers seat is much more comfortable but.

[bittenyakka]

Why would you be taking an urban pumper to a strike team?  Thats what 34 is for.

well I meant any slightly extenede period where the BA set will not be used and the seat will be requied.

[Ryan]

IM sure its more comfortable than sitting in the open back of an older style 34.

[RescueHazmat]

They aren't the "most" comfortable seats in the world, but they are built for a purpose, not so much for comfort.

Admittedly I haven't spent *long* durations sitting in the BA seats, nothing like a country drive or anything, but they are fine over shorter distances, and do save those few critical seconds it takes to get off, don a set, etc.

[Camo]

Was driving through Mt Barker on Wednesday (1st November) and seen Mt barker Pumper & rescue at what looked like an MVA...couldnt get close enough to see but their was a FF in a BA Set.

What i wanna ask is when responding to an MVA does a person in a BA seat get out the appliance with the set on or only if fire is visible?

[Pipster]

Did you take any photos ?     :-o

Pip

[2090]

The Dennis has a bench seat setup, with I believe all four BA sets across the back seats(correct me if I'm wrong). Camo, why would you get out of the applance to an MVA with a set on if there is no fire? That would be like getting out of the appliance walking to the locker and donning a set... You don't do that do you?

All BA seats allow you to do, is don/startup the set IN the appliance, rather than have to walk to a locker, don and then start up. A time saving device really.

[TillerMan]

That sounds a bit unusual, where was this job exactly?

[CFS_Firey]

MFS: RESPOND Tree Down 01/11/06 10:53,DRUIDS AV,MT BARKER, MAP 172 L 6 ,,TREE DOWN AT MT BARKER SWIMMING POOL - ON POWER LINES AND MAY HAVE DAMAGED LPG BULLET- P1 - FROM STAFF - 0437 384 371,72120 1279*CFSRES:

That's the only call they were paged for in Mt Barker - it would explain the BA set with no fire...

[TillerMan]

All they need is for their to be a car and a fixed alarm going off and they could almost put down every incident type on the report. :lol:

[Camo]

MFS: RESPOND Tree Down 01/11/06 10:53,DRUIDS AV,MT BARKER, MAP 172 L 6 ,,TREE DOWN AT MT BARKER SWIMMING POOL - ON POWER LINES AND MAY HAVE DAMAGED LPG BULLET- P1 - FROM STAFF - 0437 384 371,72120 1279*CFSRES:

That's the only call they were paged for in Mt Barker - it would explain the BA set with no fire...

that must of been it.

and 2090 i got no idea...maybe things are done differently with BA seats.  Might just be a precaution.  Was just being curious no need to get snarly.

[fire03rescue]

I have seen pictures from USA of ff with BA on and charged hose lines at rcr's

[2090]

MFS: RESPOND Tree Down 01/11/06 10:53,DRUIDS AV,MT BARKER, MAP 172 L 6 ,,TREE DOWN AT MT BARKER SWIMMING POOL - ON POWER LINES AND MAY HAVE DAMAGED LPG BULLET- P1 - FROM STAFF - 0437 384 371,72120 1279*CFSRES:

That's the only call they were paged for in Mt Barker - it would explain the BA set with no fire...

that must of been it.

and 2090 i got no idea...maybe things are done differently with BA seats.  Might just be a precaution.  Was just being curious no need to get snarly.

Snarly? Just suggesting that all BA seats are about is different stowage of the same equipment, hence the use of the equipment does not change just because it is stowed diferently. Mind you Police Rescue has enough trouble using RCR gear with their belt and side arm on, let alone with a BA set on  :-P

[CFS_Firey]

Mind you Police Rescue has enough trouble using RCR gear with their belt and side arm on, let alone with a BA set on

Huh?

Your previous answer did come across as snarly... Camo wasn't the only one that noticed it ;)