Author Topic: station stats (O2 & SES/Rope Rescue) (Read 25004 times)

CyberCitizen · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2005, 04:59:27 PM »

Oxy Sets.

If Your On The Fire Ground & You Need Oxy, Whats Wrong With Just A Normal BA Set Minus Cleaning, Could There be Some Type Of Attachment That Could Be Made Or Does The Oxy Have Other Properties?

Firefrog · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2005, 05:46:28 PM »

A Breathing apparatus contains filtered dry breathing air not oxygen. Oxygen therapy is increasing the concentration of oxygen in your blood and this can only be achieved by breathing oxygen not plain air.

CyberCitizen · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2005, 05:48:31 PM »

Thanks For Clearing That Up

strikeathird · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2005, 11:38:24 PM »

How many L p/m of oxygen is administered to patients by the Fire Fighter? (EG - IF there are any OXY Admin. trained persons on this forum, how many litres per min. of oxygen were you told you should administer?)

Just wondering.... (As it is one of the most crucial parts to administering oxygen).

JamesGar · « **Reply #29 on:** May 19, 2005, 09:58:43 AM »

Should be as follows:

Nasal Cannula: 1-3LPM
Simple Face Mask: no less than 8lpm
Bag and Mask (For Resus): 25Lpm

Hope this is what you need

oz fire · « **Reply #30 on:** May 19, 2005, 02:27:36 PM »

Having people trained in O2 is not a huge issue! If you carry the equipment, then CFS has a duty of care to provide the training - and they will. If your getting no joy through your Group Training officer, try the Region, failingl that try the State Training Centre - they will negotiate with the Region.

Funny thought though - R1 brigades have it all - I'm aware of PPV fans, atmospheric monitoring equipment, vertical rescue equipment, converted milk tankers, salvage pumps, floating pumps, portable light towers....... the list goes on and on that are in brigades outisde R1 - and how did they get these "EXTRA' pieces of equipment - they were resourceful - identified the need, organised a method of getting the funds and then purchased the equipment - very clever really and no different than a group in R1 who carry O2 equipment on 1 appliance in each station.

If you look at the stats- with the diverse number of jobs that we are all attending these days - couldn't we all do with O2 equipment, if for nothing more than to help our fellow fire fighters - NOW there is something to groan about!!!

corocfs · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2005, 06:59:53 PM »

hear hear!!!

havent heard of a cfs brigade with atmospheric monitoring equipment though... except for burnside i guess, and whats the deal with vertical rescue, im aware that naracoorte are trained in it (

) but surely its an SES responsibilitie

strikeathird · « **Reply #32 on:** May 22, 2005, 07:50:22 PM »

Quote from: JamesGar on May 19, 2005, 09:58:43 AM

Should be as follows:

Nasal Cannula: 1-3LPM
Simple Face Mask: no less than 8lpm
Bag and Mask (For Resus): 25Lpm

Hope this is what you need

Cheers mate.

Good times · « **Reply #33 on:** May 22, 2005, 09:43:06 PM »

Quote

and whats the deal with vertical rescue, im aware that naracoorte are trained in it () but surely its an SES responsibilitie

There is no SES within any reasonable time frame, and if an incident is time critical then I don't think its appropriate to be responding the SES to Naracoorte just because they are supposed to be the one's that do that work. Also I really can't see a reason to start up another emergency service when its hard enough to staff what we have, and all the issues SES/CFS towns have I wouldn't want to put my worst enemy through that sort of crap!

Good times · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2005, 07:19:45 PM »

Its almost that time of year again, everyone make sure you have all your paperwork in order for the end of year AIRS summary.

strikeathird · « **Reply #35 on:** June 21, 2005, 02:51:49 AM »

So what are peoples total call summaries for this year ?

Firey9119 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2005, 11:40:16 AM »

my station call stats are around 401 this year sofar.

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #37 on:** August 01, 2005, 03:35:22 PM »

Quote from: FIRETRUCK on May 22, 2005, 06:59:53 PM

and whats the deal with vertical rescue, I'm aware that Naracoorte are trained in it () but surely its an SES responsibility

Stirling is also rope rescue trained, although vertical rescue requires more specialist equipment, for which we respond MFS or the STAR Force, rather than SES...

Mike · « **Reply #38 on:** August 01, 2005, 03:53:14 PM »

Whats the reasoning behing that CFS_firey??

corocfs · « **Reply #39 on:** August 01, 2005, 04:16:21 PM »

Quote from: CFS_firey on August 01, 2005, 03:35:22 PM

Quote from: FIRETRUCK on May 22, 2005, 06:59:53 PM

and whats the deal with vertical rescue, I'm aware that Naracoorte are trained in it () but surely its an SES responsibility

Stirling is also rope rescue trained, although vertical rescue requires more specialist equipment, for which we respond MFS or the STAR Force, rather than SES...

im sorry.... but what the???

vertical rescue is an SES responsibility around stirling area, however.. starforce will assist them if required.. there is no way that it is a SAMFS role.

corocfs · « **Reply #40 on:** August 01, 2005, 04:17:26 PM »

**sorry**
there is no way that it is a SAMFS role in your area..

strikeathird · « **Reply #41 on:** August 02, 2005, 12:57:42 AM »

I believe Star Force are a combattive authority over SES at a Rope Rescue, if they attend.

Mike · « **Reply #42 on:** August 02, 2005, 07:55:21 AM »

Theoretically SES is a sub-division of SAPOL (or at least it used to be).

That aside though.... it still stands to be asked.... if it is an SES role for the area, why wouldnt you use them?

oz fire · « **Reply #43 on:** August 02, 2005, 11:53:04 AM »

Used to be - being the correct statement!

SES is now a recognised Emergency Service in it's own right!

They are as stand alone as CFS or MFS - but all report to Big Brother - SAFECOM ....... who's CEO is current also the SES CEO

As for rope rescue - let those with the training do it - be it SES (for the majority of the state), SAPol under extreme or close to Adelaide circumstances or MFS (Small part) or CFS (small part).

One day we will be be 'competent' - yes competent, not just "know about it" and "attended training on it once" but competent in our own roles, then we may look at acquiring other skills

I know thats a bit radical - but it aint rocket science

corocfs · « **Reply #44 on:** August 02, 2005, 01:19:12 PM »

isthis part of the plan to take over the SES completely ?? personally i dont think we should be doing vertical rescue/confined space/rope rescue etc... we are a fire service, and no.. i dont want to make it seem like we are just the old bushfire brigades. but weve already poached RCR from a lot of SES units, whats the point of doubling resources in so many areas?.

Firefrog · « **Reply #45 on:** August 02, 2005, 02:23:46 PM »

To help keep things organised and easy to naviagate can we please keep threads on topic. If you wish to pose an unrelated question or thought, please start a new topic.

This thread started as station stats, has discussed 02 and now is onto rope rescue.

Cheers

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #46 on:** August 02, 2005, 04:32:09 PM »

If people want to keep discussing Rope rescue, start a new thread, but I'll just answer the questions already in this thread:

The times I were referring to when we responded with MFS and the STAR force were because they had specialized equipment we needed. (IE we used the MFS bronto for a high re-directional). It wasn't a deliberate attempt to exclude the SES, they just didn't have what we needed.

I may be wrong here, so correct me if I am, I've been told the local SES brigade has a long response time, and as we are a Rope rescue brigade, Why not respond us? We might be able to get the casualty out before the SES arrive from Mount Barker, and I'm sure all the SAAS care about is getting the casualty out - not who does it.

corocfs · « **Reply #47 on:** August 02, 2005, 08:58:49 PM »

Quote from: CFS_firey on August 02, 2005, 04:32:09 PM

I may be wrong here, so correct me if I am, I've been told the local SES brigade has a long response time, and as we are a Rope rescue brigade, Why not respond us? We might be able to get the casualty out before the SES arrive from Mount Barker, and I'm sure all the SAAS care about is getting the casualty out - not who does it.

thats not the point CFS_Firey... SES crews used to get in station as quick as CFS crews.. but why should they bother when all "life-threatening" jobs have been poached from them? the only rescue CFS should really be doing/focusing on is road crash.

also.. just wondering, have your crew been actually trained in vertical rescue and rope rescue?

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2005, 01:35:30 AM »

Quote from: firetruck on August 02, 2005, 08:58:49 PM

thats not the point CFS_Firey... SES crews used to get in station as quick as CFS crews.. but why should they bother when all "life-threatening" jobs have been poached from them? the only rescue CFS should really be doing/focusing on is road crash.

also.. just wondering, have your crew been actually trained in vertical rescue and rope rescue?

I can see your point and agree that the SES should be given more credit, and used more often, but I can't see a reason to get them out of bed, when we can do it... (Unless it's a tree down at 4am

)

As for training, we have are trained in "Participate in a rope Rescue operation" (the basics of rope rescue) and "High angle stretcher Rescue", which is high angle, not vertical

corocfs · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2005, 01:41:00 AM »

Quote from: CFS_firey on August 03, 2005, 01:35:30 AM

I can see your point and agree that the SES should be given more credit, and used more often, but I can't see a reason to get them out of bed, when we can do it... (Unless it's a tree down at 4am )

why bother getting you out of bed... to do a job that you havent got all the tools for?

what specialised rope rescue gear do you carry?

Author Topic: station stats (O2 & SES/Rope Rescue) (Read 25004 times)

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