Author Topic: pbi gold (Read 50312 times)

Firey9119 · « **on:** August 04, 2006, 05:58:13 PM »

before you all start i know pbi has been bashed to hell

all i am wondering is stations that have got PBI gold how many of them have had "Training" in its use??

medevac · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2006, 05:59:40 PM »

what do you mean by training in its use??

as in pants first then boots?

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2006, 06:03:58 PM »

other than using it at Brukunga for CFB, none at all...

PF_ · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2006, 06:17:50 PM »

Quote from: medevac on August 04, 2006, 05:59:40 PM

what do you mean by training in its use??

as in pants first then boots?

So thats what Ive been doing wrong!

Toast · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2006, 07:50:23 PM »

You mean the heat management issues?

Firey9119 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2006, 08:54:18 PM »

not to sure what the deal is but, a message has been pass on to me not to make plans for a night this week cos it has been stated that it is a training night for pbi gold.. well yet you all know what the its all about when i find out.

corecutters · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2006, 10:44:49 PM »

Probably things like:

- Not bunkering it
- Not prolonging it to excessive UV light
- Having it cleaned properly
- How to and how not to identify if certain removable liners have/have not been removed..
- How to remove and re-insert such liners.
- When it should and should not be worn.
- What its thermal and moisture capabilities and protection levels are.

List goes on..

Toast · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2006, 11:35:33 PM »

haha, not bunkering it... haha

They're called bunker pants for a reason

(Yes, I know you're not meantto. but hey, the rest of the world does...)

medevac · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2006, 12:37:13 AM »

hmnmm well i guess they're your legs... doesnt affect me if they burn off at random...

E-ONE · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:21:40 PM »

I Came accross this link http://www.janesville.bz/pdf/USAUserGuide.pdf

It is the user guide for one of Lion Apparels Structure garments. It seems like a pretty standard thing for all their Turnout gear.

There is plenty of info on the Lion Site... just have a browse and come back and discuss some the points "straight from the horses mouth"

http://www.lionpsg.bz/

Also interesting to note: The Website states that NO firefighting material should be subject to any sunlight... Didnt find anything about not bunkering the gear though.

Toast · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2006, 04:32:24 PM »

I'm glad no-one has read the user manual that came with the garments

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2006, 12:06:52 AM »

I read it... Don't generalise!

SA Firey · « **Reply #12 on:** August 09, 2006, 04:58:52 PM »

Still looking for the flashhoods thay were supposed to accompany according to documentation getting around the place?

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #13 on:** August 09, 2006, 08:04:03 PM »

My brigade got the flash hoods delivered with the PBI Gold...

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #14 on:** August 09, 2006, 11:50:09 PM »

Here's one, at our AGM the other night we copped a warning from our GO that PBI Gold shouldn't be kept in peoples private vehicles because if they are stolen the CFS will hold the person issued with the gear liable and make them pay for the replacment of it. Aparently 3 pairs have already been nicked.

But good luck to them if it's true it would be like getting blood from a stone.

Manuel · « **Reply #15 on:** August 09, 2006, 11:52:06 PM »

who the heck would want something like other than people in the CFS, watch out guys I think it might be people from the MFS stealing them.

jj

Toast · « **Reply #16 on:** August 10, 2006, 12:39:18 AM »

Quote from: Manuel on August 09, 2006, 11:52:06 PM

who the heck would want something like other than people in the CFS, watch out guys I think it might be people from the MFS stealing them. jj

Ahh yes, the MFS with their ~~pink~~, oh sorry, ORANGE striping...

rescue5271 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 10, 2006, 04:33:10 PM »

Just look on ebay they may sell it there,but with all the only going problems with PBI gold and that other states are not using it may be CFS should stop and look before they buy any more....

Toast · « **Reply #18 on:** August 10, 2006, 04:38:22 PM »

Ongoing problems? Why has it been so widely adopted then?

Dare I suggest that the rest of Aus is maybe not a good comparison?

LFB06 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 10, 2006, 06:15:54 PM »

I think that it is way better than the old yellow stuff, there is more good points than bad ones, plus it keeps you nice and warm in winter.

Crankster 34 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 10, 2006, 07:08:51 PM »

Quote

Here's one, at our AGM the other night we copped a warning from our GO that PBI Gold shouldn't be kept in peoples private vehicles because if they are stolen the CFS will hold the person issued with the gear liable and make them pay for the replacment of it. Aparently 3 pairs have already been nicked.

Should we really be keeping PBI in our cars anyway, I'm guessing the main reason people are taking it home is to respond to incidents direct, this is something I am against anyway but with the known issues of sunlight severely decreasing the life of these garments why are we allowing this to occur.

I know that there will be times when you are heading out to training etc when the gear should go home but I don't really see that people should be keeping this gear in the car. MFS have had to redesign all of their stations to store the gear out of direct sunlight, maybe we should take note.

Firefrog · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2006, 07:16:31 PM »

Quote from: rescue5271 on August 10, 2006, 04:33:10 PM

Just look on ebay they may sell it there,but with all the only going problems with PBI gold and that other states are not using it may be CFS should stop and look before they buy any more....

CFS are for once being leaders in an area!

Other state services are trying very hard to have it adopted! Unions are behind it 100% but some services/govt's are resisting.

Good on SAFECOM and the state fire services for supplying the worlds best protection to it's valauble emergency response agencies!!!!!!!!

The sunlight issue is a bit of an over reaction! Any garment that has synthetic fibres is subject to damage when exposed to sunlight and this includes NOMEX. Yes be careful and don't leave it out in the sun but it's not that big of a deal...Normal precautions and well considered storage is fine.

Manuel · « **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2006, 07:18:39 PM »

What happens to them in UV light??

, do they fade

rescue5271 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2006, 07:51:09 PM »

I would not say the union is behind it 100% as it was the union in Vic that pulled out of the trial after reports of problems in QLD/NSW from a report done by union members in those state.

F.B.R.T · « **Reply #24 on:** August 10, 2006, 10:03:28 PM »

I think you would find that even the older Nomex gear was just as subseptable to harm from UV, but since Lion Apparel are guaranteeing performance of the new PBI gear, they are really trying to make sure the gear is looked after EXACTLY how they want.

When we got our gear, they did look into UV cutout on the stations perspex and glass windows, to ensure minimal exposure.

As for bunking overpants, we still do to certain degree, but they are held up higher on the wall by a hook.

Personally, I think we are all lucky to have such good PPE gear, because Fire Services in other states are still way behind!

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