'Type 2' Pumpers

[Toast]

So, does the CFS now call these new medium urban pumpers 'Type 2' for any particular reason? Is this an 'official' name in use? Or is this just a carry over from NSWFB naming system?

[firetruck]

no idea

[Toast]

Why not? You're a damn truck for gods sake!

[rescue5271]

Type 2 comes from the CFA as they built these appliances to replace the old type one pumper's that where in staff stations.NSW took over that name when they started getting them,you could always tell a staff appliances in the cfa in the old days as they where a fluro red(pink) colour and the looks we used to get well...

[firetruck]

Why not? You're a damn truck for gods sake!

thats too good, i have no comeback. :-D :-D

[CFS_Firey]

Blinky, does that mean we should be calling them "Pumpers" not "Type 2s"...
Sounds a bit like us calling them "Type 2 Pumpers" is like The Vics calling one of our 24s a "24 tanker"...

[Toast]

Hmm, indeed we can't go around borrowing other naming conventions (BWC anyone?) Yet the call sign is still Pumper, just people refer to them as "Type 2".

[rescue5271]

Each to there own but the correct call sign is pumper.....

[TillerMan]

The call sign is PUMPER or in Mt Barkers case RESCUE, they are a type 2 pumper though, just like saying Mt Barker pumper is a DENNIS PUMPER, it's just so you know what people are talking about.

[Toast]

I just found it odd that its the equivalent of people from NSW calling a new rural appliance a "34 tanker" or something. With type two having nothing to do with this service.

[CFS_Firey]

What do you call Stirling pumper? Wouldn't it also be classed as a "type 2" in NSW?

[Toast]

I think it would be pushing the boundry into class 3, assuming that the only thing that differentiates the classes is pump output.

[firetruck]

ok, i'm completely confused now!

[TillerMan]

In NSW Eden pumper would be a type 2, stirling pumper would be a type 3 as it has a bigger pump, the dennis from Mt Barker would be a type 4 as it is bigger again, i think. See the link.

http://www.nswfb.nsw.gov.au/education/equipment/vehicles/pumpers/

In CFA a type 1 would be like Stirling 12, a type 2 would be like blackwood rescue, a type 3 would be like Eden hills pumper and a type 4 would be like the dennis or stirling pumper.

I would say eventually there will be no 12's in CFS, there is only one appliance that is blackwood rescue size and thats called rescue anyway, but maybe we should have 2 types of pumpers depending on pump size? Maybe Heavy Pumper and General or medium Pumper.

[rescue5271]

 a 12 would be a small town pumper not a type one,type one pumpers where mainly in paid stations and were pink in colour....

[Toast]

In NSW Eden pumper would be a type 2, stirling pumper would be a type 3 as it has a bigger pump, the dennis from Mt Barker would be a type 4 as it is bigger again, i think. See the link.

http://www.nswfb.nsw.gov.au/education/equipment/vehicles/pumpers/

In CFA a type 1 would be like Stirling 12, a type 2 would be like blackwood rescue, a type 3 would be like Eden hills pumper and a type 4 would be like the dennis or stirling pumper.

I would say eventually there will be no 12's in CFS, there is only one appliance that is blackwood rescue size and thats called rescue anyway, but maybe we should have 2 types of pumpers depending on pump size? Maybe Heavy Pumper and General or medium Pumper.

Although Stirling pumper and Barker Pumper are on par as far as volume go (from what I've read), just Stirlings lacks a high pressure stage.

[TillerMan]

Yeah wasn't sure, how many GPM is stirling pumper, i was told Mt Barker pumper is 1250GPM simultanious high/low pressure?

I was thinking one class of pumper for 750GPM and below and one class of pumper for above 750GPM.

[corecutters]

Your Dennis is 900 UK imp. Gallons per min at low pressure stage, I only have high pressure stage specs. from the HP lines.

[Toast]

Yeah, from the documentation that I can find (not filtered much) Stirling Pumpers pump runs a single stage 1000GPM (not sure if its US/UK).

Just... no pressure :(

[corecutters]

Only a single stage? Any reason a 3 stage pump was not fitted from the outset?

[TillerMan]

Hahahahahahahaha, aparently the pump on stirling pumper was a special, it was supposed to be 3 stage, CFS must have got a free stubby holder with the one they ended up getting.

[Toast]

Long story. We gave them specs, they said ok, ordered the pump we wanted, it apparently got to Australia, then they did something with that and gave us the one we have currently. Its a bit blurry about what happened exactly. There is talk of getting atleast a second stage fitted though.

Does anyone notice a reoccuring theme of the CFS trying to save money in stupid ways, then it coming back to bite them by costing them MORE money to fix their shortcuts?

[medevac]

Long story. We gave them specs, they said ok, ordered the pump we wanted, it apparently got to Australia, then they did something with that and gave us the one we have currently. Its a bit blurry about what happened exactly.

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ebay?

[Toast]

More like Ivans 'Off the back of a truck' superstore

[SA Firey]

Toast they could give us back our old Acco....now theres a pumper :-D

Based at Roseworthy now