Author Topic: election time (Read 19292 times)

CaptCom · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2006, 02:10:03 PM »

That is right with the process, I've looked the Regs up this week...everyone votes, lowest out, then re-vote if more than 1 left.

If the votes were shared, then the chair would have to cast..

rescue5271 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2006, 03:06:15 PM »

Wrong,if the votes are tied then they draw a name out of a hat and that is the office holder....

CaptCom · « **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2006, 03:25:36 PM »

Quote from: rescue5271 on July 21, 2006, 03:06:15 PM

Wrong,if the votes are tied then they draw a name out of a hat and that is the office holder....

I'm not sure if that's the right process Bill...not according to the Regs..or is that just how it works in your area

PF_ · « **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2006, 03:50:05 PM »

Why not rock paper scissors

bajdas · « **Reply #29 on:** July 21, 2006, 04:31:40 PM »

Quote from: P F on July 21, 2006, 03:50:05 PM

Why not rock paper scissors

or fire hoses at 20 metres...last person standing wins

rescue5271 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 22, 2006, 08:14:48 AM »

Lat time that happen at one of our meetings the then R/C pulled a name out of the hat,if you can resolve it take them behind the shed for 10 mins.....

pumprescue · « **Reply #31 on:** July 22, 2006, 01:36:04 PM »

From the SAFECOM act

18-Group Elections

(14) For the purposes of subregulations (12) and (13), if 2 candidates have an equal number of votes and 1 of them must be excluded, the person presiding at the election will determine the question by lot.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2006, 01:42:23 PM »

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

24P · « **Reply #33 on:** July 22, 2006, 02:20:57 PM »

Quote from: pumprescue on July 22, 2006, 01:36:04 PM

From the SAFECOM act

18-Group Elections

(14) For the purposes of subregulations (12) and (13), if 2 candidates have an equal number of votes and 1 of them must be excluded, the person presiding at the election will determine the question by lot.

Have been at an AGM where the vote was tied, they decided who got the position by lot, as above. The only strange part was the person who's name was removed from the hat was excluded and the name in the hat won.
Stange way of doing it. Cant work out if every thing was above board in the mentioned election why they would have to vote again

Manuel · « **Reply #34 on:** July 22, 2006, 03:12:09 PM »

that is the way it was decided on, same last election.

pumprescue · « **Reply #35 on:** July 22, 2006, 07:57:55 PM »

Thats right if your name gets pulled out you are not in....weird you out not in....

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:13:37 AM »

My brigade decides at the beginning of the meeting whether its the person who stays in, or the person that's pulled out that wins. That avoids the confusion...

rescue5271 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 23, 2006, 07:50:28 PM »

Time for new set of guidelines so we all do the correct thing that way it will not come back and bite ya

CaptCom · « **Reply #38 on:** July 24, 2006, 11:19:57 AM »

I think that the RC should know the Regs before the meeting starts...the only time I've ever seen the constitution cited is at an AGM!

Last AGM was an absolute experience...the constitution was being referred to, some were moving motions that weren't constitutional etc..gets a bit testy at times..

As per the Regs...if it's down to 2..another vote is conducted and the winner is declared...none of this in the hat or out stuff

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #39 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:17:43 PM »

Quote from: CaptCom on July 24, 2006, 11:19:57 AM

As per the Regs...if it's down to 2..another vote is conducted and the winner is declared...none of this in the hat or out stuff

What if that vote comes out even as well?

CaptCom · « **Reply #40 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:32:56 PM »

If the vote is then even after that process...the chair has the casting vote...obviously as a secret ballot..

firetruck · « **Reply #41 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:39:39 PM »

name out of the hat is just plain ridiculous, it goes to luck instead of knowledge/suitability etc.

CaptCom · « **Reply #42 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:44:23 PM »

Quote from: firetruck on July 24, 2006, 02:39:39 PM

name out of the hat is just plain ridiculous, it goes to luck instead of knowledge/suitability etc.

I agree totally firetruck..at least if there is a casting vote, it's done by someone impartial (hopefully!)

CaptCom · « **Reply #43 on:** July 25, 2006, 09:11:13 AM »

Manuel, only Capts or a proxy can vote at a Group AGM..so, the number of votes cast is already set.

Manuel · « **Reply #44 on:** August 02, 2006, 08:53:50 PM »

new GO for heysen group, stayes after re-vote.

Mike · « **Reply #45 on:** August 03, 2006, 07:56:59 AM »

Quote from: CaptCom on July 25, 2006, 09:11:13 AM

Manuel, only Capts or a proxy can vote at a Group AGM..so, the number of votes cast is already set.

Article in the Courier about the situation in Heysen mentioned that a proxy/absentee vote was not allowed.....

??

Manuel · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2006, 08:29:37 AM »

yea it wasnt, plus this election we had Sothern Hills forestry get a vote in it all, there were not happy faces, but it is in the constitution.

CaptCom · « **Reply #47 on:** August 03, 2006, 10:52:02 AM »

Maybe that's a Group specific thing Mike..I know that we allow a proxy to vote...but not absentee..if you're not there...you don't get the priviledge...

I agree with this system..if you allowed anyone to vote, there would be too much room for stacking...

I might need to change my name...I'm now a DGO..

firetruck · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:01:06 AM »

congrats! are you the first female to hold a group position? we've got a bit of a pioneer here people!

Pipster · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2006, 11:09:01 AM »

Nope - 2nd female DGO.

Congrats by the way..)

I have a friend in CFS, who started a new job, and found out that his boss had been in CFS in a rural area for a number of years. They got chatting (as you do) and my friend mentioned that his brigade had just elected a female as Captain. The boss was amazed, and commented about how progressive the brigade must be to have a female as Captain. My friend, didn't see it as progressive, but as the brigade electing the most suitable person for the job - who just happened to be female.

It is interesting to see the differences in attitude around the place.

Pipster

Author Topic: election time (Read 19292 times)

rescue5271

PF_

rescue5271

pumprescue

rescue5271

Manuel

pumprescue

rescue5271

Manuel

Manuel