Future Appliances

[Camo]

Gday Folks,

Have been hearing rumours about new appliances in the future will be 24's again 24P/24.

Anyone able to confirm/squash this rumour?

Camo

[Toast]

Knowing the cfs they will roll out a 24F (24 Fireking). These three prototypes will be issued to urban brigades as a Rescue/Pumper. They will be 4wheel drive, with two lockers, not enough water, and a faulty pump.

Meanwhile, rural brigades will be issued with brand new Scanias...

[Alan (Big Al)]

Yep that about sounds spot on... :lol:

[F.B.R.T]

Don't forget about a Bronto Skylift going to Kalangadoo! :-D

Cheers!

[probie_boy]

hey, don't talk about kalangadoo or medevac will cry again! :wink:

I thought they were phasing out 24's/24p's for 34/34p's across the board?

[PF_]

Thats what I heard and read.

[Scania_1]

Cant see why you would go back to 24`s when you can have a 34 or 34P on the same cab/chassis for a similar build up price. Who wouldnt want the extra thousand litres of water?

[medevac]

hey, don't talk about kalangadoo or medevac will cry again! :wink:

:?

edit:
oh hang on... i get it.

[Camo]

Cant see why you would go back to 24`s when you can have a 34 or 34P on the same cab/chassis for a similar build up price. Who wouldnt want the extra thousand litres of water?

Yeah well i dont believe it either but the number of people that keep telling me this makes ya think.  and some of these people are higher up in the group.

[medevac]

and some of these people are higher up in the group.

HAH - and since when has that made much differance? i remember all sorts of tales of fabulous new equipment, training and so forth that never eventuated...

[ltdan]

It's a good idea to introduce the 24 & 24p back again.  Due to the reasons that the 24&24P are still smaller appliance and not all areas e.g. Adelaide hills can not fit 34 & 34P's into driveways etc.

[Mike]

Dont forget that the 24/24P's would be on the same chassis as the 34/34P. So in the long run it wouldnt make any difference.

[CFS_Firey]

Maybe 24/P's are cheaper to make?

Mike, maybe they plan to put the 24's on a smaller chassis, because the 34 chassis are too big?
I agree with LtDan that especially in the Adelaide hills, 34's can be too big to fit up the driveways and with the length of some hills driveways, leaving the truck on the road and running hose down, isn't practical, especially for rural fires.

[pete]

We gotta get away from this jap crap...

[rescue5271]

so PETE what should we get then???

[CFS_Firey]

the Swedish stuff :P

[rescue5271]

ahhhh,yes but would it be any good in our hot conditions????does not matter what we want its up to that man in H/Q with the big empty money bag what we get...

[Mike]

Maybe 24/P's are cheaper to make?

Mike, maybe they plan to put the 24's on a smaller chassis, because the 34 chassis are too big?
I agree with LtDan that especially in the Adelaide hills, 34's can be too big to fit up the driveways and with the length of some hills driveways, leaving the truck on the road and running hose down, isn't practical, especially for rural fires.

Maybe.... but if we go back to a smaller chassis, dont we then run the risk of re-introducing the weight problem? after all that is why they put them on the same chassis in the first place.....

Not fitting down driveways means better education for the public.... like "if the truck doesnt fit... we cant put your fire out! here is how big the truck is......"

maybe CFS should put something about the size of the trucks in their next advertising campaign?

[probie_boy]

on this topic, would it be worth it if the CFS trialled a 44 appliance? It could work in rural areas where a water supply is hard to come buy.

[Darius]

Not fitting down driveways means better education for the public.... like "if the truck doesnt fit... we cant put your fire out! here is how big the truck is......"

maybe CFS should put something about the size of the trucks in their next advertising campaign?

that's a good point, how many brigades do that?  We have driven around to some places in our area with the 24 truck and shown the residents that just having a gate wide enough is not enough.  Eg. overhanging tree branches, no turn-around space, if you had a fire on that side of your house, we'd be driving over your garden beds here etc.

On the couple of occasions we have done it, it was quite an eye-opener for the residents.  I don't think many people appreciate the size of the trucks (especially height).

[medevac]

on this topic, would it be worth it if the CFS trialled a 44 appliance? It could work in rural areas where a water supply is hard to come buy.

minitanker...

if you add a tonne of water mate, then your gonna have to remove a tonne of something else from somewhere else.... but might make a nice little (or big) rural truck...

[Camo]

For a 44 Appliance to work in would probaly have to be built on a HR Chassis due to weight & a 4wd one of them would probaly cost a fortune.

Cameron

[rescue5271]

the new 3700 lt tankers the CFA have are a MR class and they are a little small in height and width when you have them side by side with the new 34 that CFS has...

[Camo]

the new 3700 lt tankers the CFA have are a MR class and they are a little small in height and width when you have them side by side with the new 34 that CFS has...

But do the CFA carry as much gear as us? or do they carry primarily rural stuff?

[probie_boy]

yeah they probably have the equivalent of our rural locker setup wouldn't they?