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Offline bajdas

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Grape spills
« on: February 21, 2006, 09:58:47 AM »
I have seen many GRN pager messages on the website lately like below:

11:09:33 21-02-06 SHQ: CFSRES MOOROOK RESPOND GRAPE SPILL, STURT HWY, MOOROOK, LOXTON TURNOFF INTERSECTION

What would be involved for the crew to do in this incident ?
Do they hose off the road to prevent slip ? Do they try to bury the remains before the grapes ferment ?

Is this a large truck size spill or trailer on a tractor ?

The taskings seem to be always in the riverland, but not McLaren Vale, Barossa or Coonawarra regions ? Any reason why ?

Always curious & wanting to learn new things....thanks.
Andrew Macmichael
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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2006, 10:07:54 AM »
Generally it seems to be slop as the truck goes around a corner.

Loads of water to hose the road off for the couple that I have attended.

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2006, 10:57:46 AM »
yeah its the season for these kind of thigns...

tends to be slop, as mike said...

mainly its just to hose the rubbish off, and if it manages to get enough maybe a bit of shovel work.

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2006, 11:44:42 AM »
This skins and pulp etc tend to make the road slippery, however once it been cleaned off, its left a little tacky from all the sugar.

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2006, 01:47:30 PM »
Got called to a milk spill on the road at currency creek a few months back, it went for about 1km all the way down a steep winding road, that stuff is really nasty to hose off all the fat from the milk just sticks to the road. We put about 20,000 litres of water on the road and still didn't get it off.
I mentioned getting a street sweep in but as usual it fell on deaf ears.
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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2006, 09:07:45 AM »
LOL

rumour on the GRAPEvine is that CFS will not be attending grape spills anymore, instead turning the caller away to police or transportSA (or presumably taking details and giving them to police/transportSA)

anyone know why?

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2006, 10:29:09 AM »
LOL

rumour on the GRAPEvine is that CFS will not be attending grape spills anymore, instead turning the caller away to police or transportSA (or presumably taking details and giving them to police/transportSA)

anyone know why?

Depends on how pedantic the Brigade/CFS wants to be. My opinion is many hands make light work.

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2006, 10:50:39 AM »
i think turning the calls elsewhere is bad. for one, it lowers the number of potential callouts. and secondly, transport sa will probably send someone out there, but they'll be in no rush. and its during that time that things could go bad. I'd let the cfs keep doing it as the smart thing to do.

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2006, 11:43:44 AM »
Guess it depends on size, etc.

Not exactly a CFS responsability - road clean up, yet it is a Police one and a TSA one! I think CFS has traditionally been called as we are quick, cheap and can at least wash it off, prior to TSA covering it, sweeping it, signing it and then forgeting about it
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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2006, 01:16:56 PM »
hmmm well what i have heard from region is... no grape spills, never.. no matter the size or urgency...

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2006, 01:36:18 PM »
oh well, lucky there's no vineyards in my group!

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2006, 03:35:45 PM »
One groups policy is if the brigade gets called out they go then call the council sweeper 2 hours later they  they arrive to clean it up.

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2006, 09:05:30 AM »
I heard the other week that there was a grape spill on the paris creek road. I believe a car went off the road because of it.

Did anyone hear respond or have more info about it?

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2006, 07:22:14 PM »
Send the police its there job to do traffic control,send the council and if its on transport SA roads call them and I am sure they will be there say 24hrs....Better still CFS could open new business home brew wines :lol:

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2006, 10:47:04 AM »
Not exactly a CFS responsability - road clean up

Do we not clean up after a MVA.
I would rather go to a grape spill than a MVA, because of a grape spill.
My last grape spill was a strange one, 3 inches thick with grapes about 500 mtrs long around one big bend and up another intersection. We where only allowed to slow the traffic down but still had to do a MVA because a truck slid across the road and a car tryed to miss them but hit a light pole. But still no grape spill clean up.
The other spills happen in town and it smells and the vinegar flies after a day or 2 now the public are complaing. :? :?

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2006, 12:08:52 PM »
Send the police its there job to do traffic control,send the council and if its on transport SA roads call them and I am sure they will be there say 24hrs....Better still CFS could open new business home brew wines :lol:

Not that easy.....In our town if a local officer is not on duty we literally have to yell at the commanding station (which is in the next major town, about an hour away) to recall a local officer. And this is for MVA's aswell!

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2006, 01:39:37 PM »
This is becoming a problem all over the state and we are getting stuck doing police and transport SA work,hope they pay us from one of these agency's

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2006, 01:11:52 PM »
12:23:22 24-04-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: GLOSSOP RESPOND MVA CNR OLD STURT HWY & BATTAMS RD, GLOSSOP. MVA AS RESULT OF A GRAPE SPILL... > 24/04/2006 12:23:10
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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2006, 04:25:06 PM »
Thats why our brigade would rather go to a grape spill.
i was told they got a call but had to pass it on to the council but they could not get anyone to do the job then this happened.  :? :?

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2006, 03:51:47 PM »
Technically, a grape spill is a HAZMAT incident, and thus CFS is the combatant authority.  The grape juice also corrodes the asphalt, so its important that its cleaned up quickly... I heard the CFS is considering saying no, but hasn't made any decisions yet... They could just charge TSA $200,000 for every spill ;) that would get results...

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Re: Grape spills
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2006, 04:46:44 PM »
yeah, we'd soon be washing our hands of grape juice!