NEW 34

[rescue5271]

MMMMMMMMMMMMM,If this is going to be the new sysyetm then we better all learn how to use it,now what happend to making appliances more uniform across the service??? I can tell you the new spray system on CFA new tankers is great have seen it used in training and it rocks.

[medevac]

well i guess the brigade would cover that with there induction... but yer, would buggerise it up a bit if the truck was with a 'spare' crew at a jobbie...

thats why we only like to take our standard 24 urban/rural on striketeams far far away...

[rescue5271]

ok

[Mike]

Making appliances uniform is one thing, but change has to happen eventually, otherwise progression will stall.

State should at the very least make everyone aware that such a system is being introduced.

As for why to intall the emergency air system.... well, could be because he cabs are still made of plastic amongst other things....??

[Alan (Big Al)]

A couple of our firies called in to Moores the other day and noticed a large amount of Hino Cab/Chassis sitting in the yard for the next batch of 34's. They had a look through them and said they are a little more cramped than the Isuzu's and had a lot more plastic on them (If thats possible). What are people's opinion of Hino/Isuzu's.

[corecutters]

They are a truck chassis ?









:mrgreen:

[Alan (Big Al)]

Yeah Yeah smart arse, :lol: do people have a preference or are happy with "you get what your given".

[backburn]

Are the steps going to be better than last years model? have heared there has been a few injury's on the new ones.

[CFS_Firey]

Do you know what Model the chassis are? I'd like to get an idea of what they will look like...  (hopefully much smaller than the current 34's :-o )

[corecutters]

F3 FTR or FTR900 is one of the Isuzu dual cab chassis, commonly associated with the pumpers they have supplied Chassis for.

I think the 34 is on an FTS750 Crew Cab...




CC

[CFS_Firey]

I meant the Hino's... do you know what model they are?

[corecutters]

I know they are a Hino FT .. Weather or not there is any other model name/number I am unsure.

[Alan (Big Al)]

All i got back from our guys was that they are smaller than the Isuzu's by how much i don't know.  And ther CFS are still sticking with the Turbo engines (Thank God)

[Manuel]

Bordertown got their new 34 yesterday.. lucky them

[firetruck]

drove past belair 34p the other day. jesus that thing sits high up. Felt i could pretty much drive my elantra underneath it!

[Manuel]

yea it was prob going to the royal show.

has anyone who has one of these 34's in their brigade had problems with getting them up some driveways as they are so big.

[Alan (Big Al)]

Mt Compass fire earlier in the year we had to lop down a tree to get in the gate, but would have been close for the older Hino's anyway.

On a side note this may have been found before but the crew protection awning for the rear deck when locked in the closed position is a serious catch hazard on branches we got ours caught on a small branch at a job and it bent and buckled the frame??? Unlike the 2000 model 24P's it isn't in built in to the frame and poses a serious risk as the awning sits as high as the beacons.

A possible fix for this would be to install a plate in front of the awning so that any branches just roll over the top of it instead of catching.
This has been mentioned to CFS HQ and Moore's if anything is done about it, i doubt it. :|

[rescue5271]

was talking to someone the other week,they said that with the new 34 (reel above tray)that with in 18 months all the springs/suspension will have to be replaced due to the weight.Also that crew have had no training with the in cab CABA set that is to be used in case of a burn over....

[Manuel]

the pumps are the same on the 34's and 34P's right? cos i heard someone say that a few nights back

[Alan (Big Al)]

Same motors, the first few 34's came out with a 1000lpm pump which is what we got and is has got really got pressure but the remaining of the run got the 2000lpm pumps.

[Manuel]

so that really means that the 'P' on the end of the 34, only stands for more storage space, more outlets and urban equipment?

[Alan (Big Al)]

34P- 2 in, 2 out and large hard suction inlet

34- 2 in (one is a dedicated fill inlet with one way valve for hydrants) and 2 out.

So you can't really boost from the 34's because the inlet for the hydrant bypasses the pump and goes directly in to the tank.

If you can understand that. :-P

[Toast]

so that really means that the 'P' on the end of the 34, only stands for more storage space, more outlets and urban equipment?

More stowage space? GOD NO. I dont see how any brigade you possible stow a Urban/Anything else on a 34P.

Mind you, it would be really great to hane the four inch conection on the side on the appliance, so you dont have to reverse into the booster cabinet and block the road.

[Mike]

You wont get the same flow through the 34's anyway. The 'P' type appliances have 2 x 64mm outlets.... and associated inlets of course.

The standard 34s have a 6" Stortz to 1 x 64mm Inlet adaptor, so you could get a 6" stortz to 2 x 64mm Inlet adaptor.

However, the outlets are restricted as the size of the pipe from the outlet mainifold to the coupling is 38mm.

Hope that makes sense....

[SA Firey]

Has everyone seen the hazard notice issued due to getting the 34's too close to heat.....melts the brake line and your stuck solid. :wink:

I think Hindmarsh Valley suffered that recently at a scrub fire at Pt Elliot

On another note Isuzu is much better than the Hino's but its cheaper for CFS...however the Type 2's will remain on the Isuzu FTR900 Chassis :-D