NEW 34

Started by rescue5271, September 03, 2005, 07:41:49 AM

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Andrew

The first 9 delivered early in the year (and the last few just this month) do not have the halo, the next 14 will have it.

We could offer the Halo as a retro fit to any of the last 750 Isuzu Appliance - cost would vary depending on who manufactured the appliance.

Dont hold me to it but around the $2500 + GST (some less, some might cost more)
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backburn

Has Ardrossen and Glossop got there new trucks yet??? :?

PF_

A new 34 would be cool, but imagine rocking up to a fire in this beast.


strikeathird

I think the fire would have burnt itself out by the time you got there  :-P...   lol... But yea, they are a nice truck.

TillerMan

Those forestry 34's actually get up and boogy pretty good, big engine with an auto gear box. Not a great top speed but the pick up is good.

oz fire

Quote from: P_F on January 08, 2006, 06:54:06 PM
A new 34 would be cool, but imagine rocking up to a fire in this beast.

Yeah imagine - they handle like a tank, have poor visability and people complain about getting stuff from the lockers on the current appliances!
Imagine trying to negotiate this through a populated area  :-o :-o

Although it is good to see purpose built appliances  - I have no doubt they will be good in forestry areas - as long as they don't get bogged and can get up steep slippery terrain unlike the original one did when tested in the Adelaide Hills :-D
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Mike

rumor had it someone forgot about 4WD amoungst a couple of other oops'..... and they weren't allowed to recover it with the RFW!!!!!! hehe

kat

Thanks for your input, Andrew.

Best of luck with your new venture.

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backburn

Can anyone tell me how many hoses you can get on the new 34 model trucks comming out this year? The photos show that there is not much locker space. Can you put stuff in other places? Also whats with the new tools eg: shovels etc?

Alan (Big Al)

Quote from: backburn on January 11, 2006, 08:43:52 AM
Can anyone tell me how many hoses you can get on the new 34 model trucks comming out this year? The photos show that there is not much locker space. Can you put stuff in other places? Also whats with the new tools eg: shovels etc?

The snap lock tools i don't like at all the weight of the rake hoes has nearly doubled!! As for locker space and hoses the 34 comes with a standard rural stowage of 64mm filler, 1 64mm x 30m, 2 38mmx30m, 2 25mm lay flat. We've taken out the BA brackets in ours and put in a quick-fill pump, and on the drivers side there is enough room to put chainsaw and equipment, more fuel, ration packs, gas cooker, and still a little space to spare. One locker doesn't have a shelf in it but we had problems with our appliance and for our trouble Moore's was kind enough to donate one. However if you want a shelf i believe Moore's will install one for around the $120.00 mark (I Think).
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Mike

sent crews to Coomandook.... with no aircon, whould have been a killer for them! Hanging out for the new 34 to get here!

backburn

Hay where are the new 34. I saw on the pager site Saturday that Glossop 34 is of the road because of repairs. Sounds like they could do with there new one?

24P

Quote from: backburn on January 11, 2006, 08:43:52 AM
Can anyone tell me how many hoses you can get on the new 34 model trucks comming out this year? The photos show that there is not much locker space. Can you put stuff in other places? Also whats with the new tools eg: shovels etc?
we have added a 64mm hose to our stowage, taken out the supplied layflat and added 5 x 25mm canvas lines.
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medevac

how big are the hose reels??? doesnt sound liek you will be able to carry much spare hose... especially when you think about it...  i mean look at our 24P has 200m of HPlines (2x100m reels), 6x 64mm 30m, 7x 25mm 30m and a 64mm filler... and 24 carries a bit less hose but similar

TillerMan

Medevac, Your 24p might have 2 x 100m hosereels but every other one in the state has 2 x 60m hose reels, the new 34's also have 2 x 60m hose reels.

medevac

thats cos its custom, and running lightweight hose on the reels :)
not factory standard...

was just saying when you sit back and look at it, they dont really carry much hose.

kat

Quote from: Mike on January 23, 2006, 10:11:11 AM
sent crews to Coomandook.... with no aircon, whould have been a killer for them! Hanging out for the new 34 to get here!

Don't you have the policy of not using the air conditioning if there are crews on the back?

Particularly on the fireground where it's critical to know what the conditions are for the outside crew.

Also have a sneaking suspicion that having the airconditioning on contributed to the overheating of an appliance at Ngarkat Sunday.
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strikeathird

Well if the aircon contributed to the appliance over heating, then the heap of cr@p should be decommissioned as it is a Risk to crew !!!


Hate to tell ya but 21st century here.. If the air con is available, and the officer and driver are unfortunately the only ones that benifit, well.. So be it..  The officer needs to be making life/death decisions...  and doesnt need to be swealtering if the need isnt there.. and the Driver needs to be able to drive without reaching for the water bottle every 5 seconds...


:roll:

fire03rescue

The cab is a good place to cool down when you get time to have a break. We used this on Black Tuesday to give they guys a break eg have a drink in a nice cool cab

Mike

just to clarify....

The personel where getting hot not the engine....
and
The current 34 we have has no aircon what-so-ever unless you count the traditional 2x100 (at a push) version!!!!

kat

No argument about using it when it's there but I've always been taught and it makes perfect sense to me that when fighting a running grass fire or anytime with crews working from the back that the windows should be down so inside crew are aware of the kinds of conditions those on the back are experiencing.

No problems with us - the only vehicle with air con is a dual cab so we all travel together in the cool :-).
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strikeathird

again...  The driver doesnt need to be choking on smoke when trying to drive tho...   There is an intercom on the crew deck right????

kat

Agree to disagree :-)

If the driver is choking on smoke, so are the crew on the back.

And the intercom is difficult, near impossible to use in hairy conditions whilst chasing fires 'round paddocks.
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medevac

aleays good though when the driver isnt choking on smoke and is fit/able to drive the appliancve into the clear :)

but yeah, hard to tell.. use your eyes. smoke thick/drive out of it...

mengcfs

Air con......whats that? :wink: