Author Topic: Flash Hoods (Read 25391 times)

24P · « **on:** February 09, 2006, 11:45:54 AM »

Does anyone know if any progress has been made on flash hoods being approved for use by the CFS? Went to a job the other week (structure related) and was asked by the MFS station officer "do your guys have flash hoods?"
Sorry if this topic is elswhere on this site but i couldnt seem to find it.

Mike · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:49:47 AM »

I havent heard anything.....

medevac · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2006, 12:22:19 PM »

surely cfs would role some out as soon as they are approved... one would hope.

PF_ · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2006, 01:34:05 PM »

Most brigades use them anywya dont they? Maybe CFs just decided to let the whole issue go as they were being used anyway...

Firefrog · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2006, 02:05:43 PM »

I have read a submission written by State Training Staff to have flash hoods adopted. So who knows how long it will take, but in the meantime I use one and so do many others.

It would be hard for CFS to challenge any fire fighter for purchasing and using gear that enhances protection. Ofcourse you need to have been trained in it's use.

Del · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2006, 12:11:17 PM »

FLash Hoods ..... I was at the Region 2 Volinteer Managment Meeting (RVMM)a couple of months ago and that group (On behalf of all volunteers within Region 2) supported the principle of adopting a (Structural) flash hood for use by CABA operators. There has to be a FGP written, and SOP developed, type of flash hood (Must meet appropriate standards) etc etc etc.... Mr Bret Pollini is as far as i know looking after the matter. It was also said at this RVMM that NO flash hoods should be worn until this policy and type are endorsed. I would however er on the side of caution if i was to see someone using one as if it did not meet the appropriate standard (which ever that may be) and something was to happen to the operator

? who knows what ramifications there could be. Howver i do think that we are years behind, and they should not be wasting any time getting them adopted for use.. By the way funding for flash hoods will come from current budgets. ie. no extra money will be given to groups / brigades for the purchase of flash hoods.

strikeathird · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2006, 08:06:07 PM »

Funny situation I guess.

HYPOTHETICALLY.. If the following were to happen... :

A Fire Fighter was donning B.A, and pulled his Flash hood on, and was informed by OIC to take off the hood, the said fire fighter receives.. Ear and upper neck burns...While fighting the fire... (Structural fire)... Claiming if he had the hood on he would have been alright..

I think the Inquest / Work place safety would seriously look into why the Fire Fighter was ordered to take OFF additional safety equip.. and was then injured because of it!

Would be a very quick way for a policy to get written!

The above was a hypothetical, and to my knowledge has not happend to anyone..

24P · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2006, 06:34:13 PM »

F.Y.I FLASH HOODS ARE NOW APPROVED STANDARD PPE FOR LEVEL 3
Saw this on the paging site. Anyone had official conformation?

probie_boy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2006, 11:14:04 AM »

pardon the insolence, but what are flash hoods?

oz fire · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2006, 12:38:25 PM »

Fire proof balaclava!

Worn to protect the head and neck area on a fire fighter - it is worn under the helmet, the bottom tucks into the turn out coat with the rim sitting on the face mask of the BA, providing total protection to the fire fighter.

probie_boy · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2006, 01:44:15 PM »

ok sweet thanks for that. yeah they sound good. I suppose they're similar to the anti flash gear the navy use???

oz fire · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2006, 02:21:49 PM »

Yes very similar to what the Navy use (probally from the same AS/NZS standard)

A heavier duty to what motor sport drivers and firies wear.

Heres a sample photos - thanks to the Fire and Rescue Australia website (a seller of flash hoods)

Mike · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2006, 03:56:44 PM »

what were we saying about firies having a mo?

.... hehe.

probie_boy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:38:13 AM »

yeah look at that thing. perfectly trimmed to the borders of the flash hood! this guy must spend a lot of time modelling these babys!

strikeathird · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:52:04 PM »

So flash hoods are approved ??

medevac · « **Reply #15 on:** March 04, 2006, 06:39:46 AM »

ask region... LOL

strikeathird · « **Reply #16 on:** March 04, 2006, 05:49:59 PM »

mattb · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2006, 06:30:10 PM »

Well something must be happening with Flashhoods, there was a call for tender to supply 'Fire Fighter Protective Hoods for the S.A. Country Fire Service' in the Tenders section of todays paper (pg59).

At a guess I would say we are about to go from not having them approved to having them supplied to all B.A. operators.

Here are the specs needed

FIRE FIGHTER PROTECTIVE HOOD - STRUCTURAL

Fabric
Content      20% Nomex, 80% Lenzing FR
Construction      1 x 1 Rib Knit
Weight         8 ounces per square yard (240 grms)
Stretch         100%

Head Design
Style         Full Shoulder
Separate head with sewn on back and front bib
Layers         Two
Length         13” (32cms)
Width         Top of face opening to back seam, 8.5” (21cm)
         Middle of face opening to back of seam, 6.5” (16cm)
         Bottom of face opening to back seam, 10.5” (26cm)
Crown Area Four inches (10cm) from top of crown to top of face opening

Bib Design
A two piece double layer yoke style bib is sewn to the head and forms a neck seam. The back bib extends 8” (20cm) down the back. The front bib extends 6” (15cm) down the front. The front and back bibs are joined at the shoulder to form a 3” shoulder seam on either side of the head.

Face Opening
Face opening sewn with half inch elastic.
Relaxed measurement, 5 – 5.5” (14cm).
Fully stretched, exceeds 15” (38cm)

Construction
All seams will conform to those stitch types specified in ASTM D6193
Major Seams – initial seam sewn with Stitch Type 504 and then sewn over . . flattened with Stitch Type 605
Optional Head Seam – flat lock seam sewn with Stitch Type 607
Face Opening – elastic is sewn to the edge of face opening with Stitch Type 504,
Turned under and overseam with Stitch Type 402 to totally               cover elastic
Binding – one and a half inch (3.75cm) building is sewn to the hem through folder
With Stitch Type 402 to create a 0.5” (1.3cm) finished bound hem
Thread – 100% Nomex : UL component recognised to NFPA 1971-2000 edition
Certification - must be certified and meet NFPA Standard 1971 – 2000 edition,
ISO 9001:2000

24P · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2006, 07:41:06 PM »

Did hear that they would be issued with PBI gold in the future to ensure that the correct flash-hood was used.

TillerMan · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2006, 10:13:00 AM »

Yes that tender is for 1300 of them with an option for another 200.

I would say the money would come out of that $2m PPE grant.

probie_boy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2006, 12:39:56 PM »

there are 3 good things about flash hoods
1) they won't cost the world
2)they fit easily into your jacket pocket
3)they work

botom line - flash hoods = good.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2006, 04:36:57 PM »

It went to tender on Tuesday was in the paper and on the net

probie_boy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2006, 08:05:21 AM »

well there you go! I thought we'd be getting them

strikeathird · « **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2006, 06:01:12 PM »

Bout time...

I wont go into a going structure without it..

Camo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:31:38 PM »

what i dont understand is why the tender is only for 1300.....isnt there like 2500 BA operators?

Camo

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