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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #750 on: August 06, 2006, 10:15:39 PM »
medevac, if an emergency resource is on scene, and they confirm NO entrapment, NO spillage, NO action required, why waste resources?  I know its not your fault (at least I don't think it is..) but it seems like a pretty stupid rule to me...
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #751 on: August 06, 2006, 10:24:00 PM »
well... first off. how did the on scene resource arrive without fire and rescue being called at all? they should all be responded ASAP from time of original call by the call taking agency...

and besides, even if we get info like that per our SOPs we should be responding a rescue resource if we are attending... makes sense no matter which way ya look at it....

well im sure someone will disagree though... :wink:
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« Reply #752 on: August 06, 2006, 10:39:45 PM »
My comment re: SES is more because MFS were on the way... I know SES are the gazetted Rescue resource for that area, but I still think it is a wasted resource once a Service was already on scene..

Yes, they should have been responded initially, as should have all the other services, but they weren't.. So why waste not only the services time, but more importantlly the vollunteers time when such details have already been ascertained?
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #753 on: August 06, 2006, 10:49:34 PM »
Quote from: corecutters on August 06, 2006, 10:39:45 PM
So why waste not only the services time, but more importantlly the vollunteers time when such details have already been ascertained?

to avoid having a RCR grievance lodged against them? dunno...

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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #754 on: August 06, 2006, 10:52:58 PM »
Would seem to me that it would be one of those time when common sense prevails... But.... I guess not....


Either way .. back to Ammusing pager messages... :)
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #755 on: August 06, 2006, 10:54:09 PM »
I like the conspiracy theory proposed by Camo! :-)
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #756 on: August 06, 2006, 11:01:37 PM »
Seriously though, the right thing is done by comms generally and all services are called out.

But on many occasions Police and SAAS arrive first and find no entrapments.

I know of many occasions there has been stops put through from Police SAAS or other services and it doesn't seem to happen!

That is probably the biggest gripe :?
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #757 on: August 06, 2006, 11:13:54 PM »
mmm... but really we (fire service) dont take a stop unless a fire appliance is on scene....

maybe downgrade..... but in reality we are the ones trained to decide whether there is a need for our attendance, not the coppers or saas.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #758 on: August 06, 2006, 11:19:58 PM »
Quote from: medevac on August 06, 2006, 11:13:54 PM
mmm... but really we (fire service) dont take a stop unless a fire appliance is on scene....

maybe downgrade..... but in reality we are the ones trained to decide whether there is a need for our attendance, not the coppers or saas.

Correct, and I agree.. However... (there is always a catch..)...  SAPOL being the co-ordinating authority, technically we, by rights should take a stop call... / respond accordingly... - SAPOL advise no persons trapped.. Should be by rights only respond Fire coverage as they have given directive information informing us that no persons trapped, therefor rescue not required?  -  The job details stating no service would be required at all.. why send a truck?  .. more importantly.. Why would they tell us this?  information only?  Do they want a service yet strangely tell the operators that really a service is not required??

It seems to be a boundary that is very grey, and obviously uncrossed... I think the simplest thing is to continue what has been done before.. Assume the worst... Send everything untill someone says otherwise...

A total contradiction I know... But... It's all about covering ones a$$ in this day and age !
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #759 on: August 06, 2006, 11:22:16 PM »
I see where your coming from but most ambo's and coppers wouldn't disconnect batteries or sort out oil or fuel leaks which is the fire services responsibility, but most of them would know if a patient is "trapped" in a vehicle.

Anyhow, might try to get back on topic!

Did you see on the paging site the other day a particular brigade informing it's members about a scout group coming to visit their station?

The final part of the message cheekily said "there might be female scouts coming....."

Wonder if that encouraged anymore of the stations lads to turn up! :-D
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« Reply #760 on: August 06, 2006, 11:24:29 PM »
^^ heehee..

1909789 15:53:29 06-08-06 HELLO SA FIREFIGHTER!

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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #761 on: August 06, 2006, 11:35:54 PM »
To continue the discussion on response protocols, I've started a thread:
Response SOPs.

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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #762 on: August 07, 2006, 10:28:37 AM »
Quote from: corecutters on August 06, 2006, 11:24:29 PM
1909789 15:53:29 06-08-06 HELLO SA FIREFIGHTER!

Someone Has To Much Time On Their Hands.
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Re: Amusing pager message.
« Reply #763 on: August 08, 2006, 11:36:48 AM »
Hi all,

And they keep coming back for more the GRN provides loads of comedy :-D :-D :-)

WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S EDITION OF CURRENCY CREEK PAGER TEST & TRAINING INFO - TRAINING AT 19:30 SHARP FOR FUN & EXCITEMENT
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« Reply #764 on: August 08, 2006, 12:27:56 PM »
simple guys. SAPOL wouldnt know if anyone was trapped or not. you cannot trust other services, always attend and see for yourself
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #765 on: August 08, 2006, 12:33:24 PM »
pumprescue: Continue that discussion in Response SOPs...  Its more interesting there ;)
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #766 on: August 08, 2006, 02:25:35 PM »
Quote from: CyberCitizen on August 07, 2006, 10:28:37 AM
Quote from: corecutters on August 06, 2006, 11:24:29 PM
1909789 15:53:29 06-08-06 HELLO SA FIREFIGHTER!

Someone Has To Much Time On Their Hands.

yeah, all of us!
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« Reply #767 on: August 10, 2006, 08:36:38 AM »
how often is this happening, we are not farmers :x

SHQ: *CFSRES: KANGARILLA RESPOND CATTLE ON ROAD CHESTER AND MAIN ROAD KANGARILLA NEAR SPORTS GROUNDS 3 COWS ON ROAD < 10/08/2006 07:44:02
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #768 on: August 10, 2006, 10:29:50 AM »
maybe we should make cattle prods standard stowage. gee, wouldn't maintenance checks be fun then!
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #769 on: August 10, 2006, 10:49:17 AM »
1919304    23:56:45 09-08-06 SHQ: CFSRES: BARMERA & GLOSSOP RESPOND ROADSIDE SCRUB ALIGHT TEALY ROAD, INTERSECTION GORDON ROAD, LOVEDAY, < 9/08/2006 11:56:33 PM

1919303   00:19:51 10-08-06 SHQ: CFSRES: GLOSSOP RESPOND ROADSIDE SCRUB ALIGHT TEALY ROAD, INTERSECTION GORDON ROAD, LOVEDAY, ASSIST BARMERA CFS < 10/08/2006 12:19:37 AM

Someone should tell them they need to send the other brigade straight away not 24 mins later. They should have been responded the same time. What happened?  :|
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #770 on: August 10, 2006, 11:09:39 AM »
Uh... they did? Well, atleast as one of each message went to the same group. I'd assume maybe Glossop didnt get their act together and it was a gentle suggestion to get to the station?

Mind you, we've had multiple pages for the same job from MFS / SHQ.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #771 on: August 10, 2006, 11:17:38 AM »
Well guess what NO Glossop did not get that page they only got the second one. I know for a fact they did not.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #772 on: August 10, 2006, 12:05:13 PM »

that repeated message you're talking about Toast went to Chaffey Group Officers.  It appears to be a stuffup at SHQ that Glossop were missed off the first page at 23:56.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #773 on: August 10, 2006, 01:26:49 PM »
We Have Had It Before Where The Pages Have Gone Off Saying More Information (About The Job) & We Were Like What The Cause We Were Never Called To A Job.  Turns Out The Inital Page Was Sent But They Forgot To Include Us In The Paging Group Even Though We Were In The Message.  Confirmed This By Checking The Pager Site After The Job.  It Was Lucky For The More Info Page Otherwise We Wouldn't Have Known.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #774 on: August 10, 2006, 03:10:12 PM »
Quote from: backburn on August 10, 2006, 11:17:38 AM
Well guess what NO Glossop did not get that page they only got the second one. I know for a fact they did not.

SETTLE DOWN.

Christ.

I apologise for speculating regarding an issue.
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