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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #650 on: July 18, 2006, 09:00:54 AM »
Quote from: Mike on July 18, 2006, 07:44:26 AM
LOL: saw the news footage.... every channel!
You whould have thought one of them would have noticed the depth marker on the ford was showing the water was almost as high as the cruiser....


ridiculous... on the news they stated that the officers didnt realise how deep the water was... if they'd looked at the marker they would have seen it wqas 2m deep lol...
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #651 on: July 18, 2006, 04:11:58 PM »
Here's an interseting one: MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Fire 18/07/06 06.37, MAIN ST, TANUNDA, MAP 0 0 0,,RUBBISH TRUCK FIRE OUT THE FRONT OF CFS,631*CFSRES:

Why wouldn't the CFS be called to that one??? :?
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #652 on: July 18, 2006, 04:17:08 PM »
not there area  :wink:

you'd be amazed.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #653 on: July 18, 2006, 04:54:18 PM »
Many cfs stations are located within mfs areas around the state. Thats why the MFS would be called to these type of jobs and not the cfs.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #654 on: July 18, 2006, 06:02:52 PM »
Quote from: mundcfs on July 18, 2006, 04:11:58 PM
Here's an interseting one: MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Fire 18/07/06 06.37, MAIN ST, TANUNDA, MAP 0 0 0,,RUBBISH TRUCK FIRE OUT THE FRONT OF CFS,631*CFSRES:

Why wouldn't the CFS be called to that one??? :?

They Would Notice The *CFSRES: At The End Of The Message This Is To Set The CFS Pagers Off.  The MFS: At The Start Indicates Where The Message Came From If I Am Correct If Not Please Let Me Know.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #655 on: July 18, 2006, 06:14:50 PM »
Almost. The MFS: At the start means the page came from MFS comcen. *CFSRES is used to trip the FSI's and the pagers for a response (eg: Tone 7) URGMSG is also used for this. The MFS Retained crews and Elizabeth I think? (331&332) that use pagers, still have them set off for a response with *CFSRES at the end of the page.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #656 on: July 18, 2006, 06:32:49 PM »
district officers also...

ambos can do it using the URGMSG... but CFSRES would work for them also... it also used by MFS Comms (and was by CFS SOCC) for dispatching SES units...
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #657 on: July 18, 2006, 08:37:38 PM »
Main street Tanunda would be out the front of MFS????
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #658 on: July 19, 2006, 12:59:42 AM »
Yes - Tanunda CFS are on Walden Street, according to the Promo website... :?
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #659 on: July 19, 2006, 01:17:20 AM »
Quote from: rescue5271 on July 18, 2006, 08:37:38 PM
Main street Tanunda would be out the front of MFS????

That would probably explain things :-D
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« Reply #660 on: July 19, 2006, 03:31:14 AM »
Yeah, we've had a few "Why dont YOU have one of those red trucks with the cherry picker on it?" responses to things up trees
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #661 on: July 19, 2006, 08:59:27 AM »
Quote from: mundcfs on July 19, 2006, 01:17:20 AM
Quote from: rescue5271 on July 18, 2006, 08:37:38 PM
Main street Tanunda would be out the front of MFS????

That would probably explain things :-D

not necessarily, even if it had been on walden st, out the front of the CFS station, MFS still would have been the only response LOL.... its a strange and crazy world.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #662 on: July 19, 2006, 09:54:12 AM »
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Yeah, we've had a few "Why dont YOU have one of those red trucks with the cherry picker on it?" responses to things up trees

Well the SES are now the primary agency for Animal Rescues (according to the MFS BOMS database anyway)so that is one less area for us to worry about.

From memory Western Adelaide SES have a cherry picker setup on one of their vehicles, that could come in handy for getting all those birds out of the trees.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #663 on: July 19, 2006, 10:56:16 AM »
Quote from: mattb on July 19, 2006, 09:54:12 AM
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Yeah, we've had a few "Why dont YOU have one of those red trucks with the cherry picker on it?" responses to things up trees

Well the SES are now the primary agency for Animal Rescues (according to the MFS BOMS database anyway)so that is one less area for us to worry about.

From memory Western Adelaide SES have a cherry picker setup on one of their vehicles, that could come in handy for getting all those birds out of the trees.

Not all the time... A copy of the 'CRD business Rules' between MFS and SES was published in the April 2006 edition of the SASESVA FrontLine magazine. See http://www.sasesva.org.au/Frontline/April2006Pt1.pdf, page 7.

Section 2.15 states "For animal rescues within MFS areas then only MFS will be responded. Normally SASES will be only response to animal rescue in non-MFS areas. If the incident is in an area designated as a SES secondary response, then the incident shall be sent to the CFS."
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #664 on: July 19, 2006, 11:03:12 AM »
well thats a bit silly...

so for animal rescues MFS fire area, MFS will go... but in CFS fire area SES will go.... why the fire service for one area but not the other???

i mean, my personal opinion is it should be SES both area, but it just seems very odd to have a doubkle standard like that...
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #665 on: July 19, 2006, 11:18:34 AM »
Quote from: medevac on July 19, 2006, 11:03:12 AM
well thats a bit silly...

so for animal rescues MFS fire area, MFS will go... but in CFS fire area SES will go.... why the fire service for one area but not the other???

i mean, my personal opinion is it should be SES both area, but it just seems very odd to have a doubkle standard like that...

Given this is agreement is between MFS and SES, the way I read it is:
1/ If in MFS area, send MFS only.
2/ If other, then send primary response be it CFS or SES.

Not sure if a 'mutual aid agreement' exists between CFS and SES yet, which would help determine specifically what is the primary response organisation in non-MFS areas for incidents other than fire or RCR. Hopefully someone is working on one though.

The agreement document is an interesting read....
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #666 on: July 19, 2006, 08:22:25 PM »
Nearest and most appropriate resource for gods sake. For any incident in our area, we *WILL* arrvie atleast 20 minutes before the SES. Thats not some made up figure, thats the filtered driving time to the two closest SES units. Why is it so hard for peopel to understand this?
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #667 on: July 20, 2006, 09:57:44 AM »
Quote from: Toast on July 19, 2006, 08:22:25 PM
Nearest and most appropriate resource for gods sake. For any incident in our area, we *WILL* arrvie atleast 20 minutes before the SES. Thats not some made up figure, thats the filtered driving time to the two closest SES units. Why is it so hard for peopel to understand this?

I fully agree...the problem I THINK is on the words "appropriate resource"...different people have different interpretations. Especially for non 'life-threat' incidents in storms (eg roof damage).

Personally I think that agreements can help resolve the interpretation issues. For example, the RCR Resource book makes it really easy for the people dispatching resources to MVA incidents.

But you dont want paperwork for all incidents.

End of the day, the "quickest and safest help to the person in need" is the best option.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #668 on: July 20, 2006, 10:08:08 AM »
Quote from: Toast on July 19, 2006, 08:22:25 PM
Nearest and most appropriate resource for gods sake. For any incident in our area, we *WILL* arrvie atleast 20 minutes before the SES. Thats not some made up figure, thats the filtered driving time to the two closest SES units. Why is it so hard for peopel to understand this?

I do not know what is programmed into MFS computer system & I do not know which Brigade your from, but on face value of your posting, you would be the Primary Response for your area. Thus you will get the job because you are the quicker responder.

I believe the clause in the agreement was stating that for animal rescue you do not need to respond two organisations to the incident, because it is not a life threat (sorry all you cat lovers :evil:)

But at a 'building impact' incident, then fire and shoring expertise are responded automatically because it could be a 'life threat'.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #669 on: July 20, 2006, 01:37:13 PM »
Hi all,

Not so amusing but i am after some info.
Can anyone tell me who this page went to?
Thanks,

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1906610 11:12:10 20-07-06 MFS: RESPOND RCR 20/07/06 11:11,PRINCES HWY,MENINGIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,20 KM NORTH OF MENINGIE, SINGLE VEHICLE,,74529*CFSRES:
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #670 on: July 20, 2006, 01:46:48 PM »
It went to Meningie SES => Meningie = 74529
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #671 on: July 20, 2006, 01:54:14 PM »
Thanks for that. Meningie CFS were paged by SOCC.  SES say they never got a page at all.....then i see this on the pager site. Makes you wonder :roll:
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #672 on: July 20, 2006, 01:58:31 PM »
silly orange people
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #673 on: July 20, 2006, 02:07:18 PM »
Shhh. I didn't say that :-D So just to clarify, MFS are doing paging for SES now not SOCC.
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Re: Ammusing pager message.
« Reply #674 on: July 20, 2006, 02:36:44 PM »
Quote from: firetruck on July 20, 2006, 01:58:31 PM
silly orange people

HA HA hee hee  :lol: :lol: :-D  :-D
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