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Raven

#3800
Not quite sure what to make of this one...

15:14:44 26-01-13 MFS: *CFSRES01?4052 :3/13/17 90:?,SPOND TREE Do_~,(QLAR?i"EVEL: 1, QUINTIN AV/ G'PvNHILL RD cBMlNd>]aR:ib""93:&O45=TO&q67.8<hl8#&G (tREE*Bl?OkYnO WkOLE icyL. 500MM&DYA?? LEIJ"?+g7850725 :GRHL14 GRHL3?ZX - CFS Greenhill Response

** Edit **

That was found on the CFS paging filter, off the paging site.

Here's the actual page.

15:14:44 26-01-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0054 26/01/13 15:14 RESPOND TREE DOWN, ALARM LEVEL: 1, QUINTIN AV/ GREENHILL RD CLELAND,MAP:ADL 132 J 5,TG 126, == LARGE TREE BLOCKING WHOLE ROAD. 500MM DIAM. LEAH 0417850725 :GRHL14 GRHL34 : CFS Greenhill Response, CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response

Any idea for the difference?
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.

Pipster

Simple - a corrupted message, which occurs when the message isn't received properly by the decoder..... things like weather conditions affect the decoding....

Pip
There are three types of people in the world.  Those that watch things happen, those who make things happen, and those who wonder what happened.

Raven

MFS humor?

19:32:30 31-01-13 RESPOND TO 4TH ALARM STRUCTURE FIRE 99 WAKEFIELD ST MFS Car 31
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.

Bagyassfirey

13-02-13 16:31:40 SEAF: JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER WE ARE A FIRE BRIGADE AND U DO HAVE TO RESPOND TO GET A TRUCK OUT WELL DONE GUYS AND GIRLS - CFS Seaford Info

No wonder we are losing Members attitudes like that...Not everyone can or wants to respond ALL the time!

Raven

Quote from: Bagyassfirey on February 13, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
13-02-13 16:31:40 SEAF: JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER WE ARE A FIRE BRIGADE AND U DO HAVE TO RESPOND TO GET A TRUCK OUT WELL DONE GUYS AND GIRLS - CFS Seaford Info

No wonder we are losing Members attitudes like that...Not everyone can or wants to respond ALL the time!

I was just about to post this. I'd definitely say this is not called for.
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.

misterteddy

maybe a tad harsh.....but kinda true. Maybe it's time for some tough love within the Brigade....I'm sure if it's an issue then the management team will rectify it

fire8029

14-02-13 14:40:33 MFS: *CFSRES INC0033 14/02/13 14:40 RESPOND RESCUE FROM HEIGHTS, ALARM LEVEL: 1, UNNAMED NORMANVILLE,MAP:C/94A 54,TG 144, ==MEMBER OF PUBLIC, VIEWING ROM CARAVAN PARK CAN SEE HANG GLIDER HANGING :HAYF24 YANK34 : - CFS Hay Flat Response


AND THEN.....


14-02-13 14:56:21 PER SAPOL STOP FOR CALL FALSE ALARM ITS A PAINTED ROCK - CFS Hay Flat Response

Raven

Now this is awkward...

21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? CFS Burnside Info
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.

HeavyRescue

Quote from: Raven on February 14, 2013, 07:42:11 PM
Now this is awkward...

21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? CFS Burnside Info

Now this!

BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY FU**ING CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info

safireservice

Quote from: adizz131 on February 14, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: Raven on February 14, 2013, 07:42:11 PM
Now this is awkward...

21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? CFS Burnside Info

Now this!

BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY filtered CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info
meow! and yes the filtered word does start with a F and end in a G.
Treat everyone as if they are an idiot, until they prove you otherwise.

Hazmat206

Quote from: adizz131 on February 14, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: Raven on February 14, 2013, 07:42:11 PM
Now this is awkward...

21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? CFS Burnside Info

Now this!

BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY FU**ING CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info

So.... CFS respond themselves do they???
206 to Adelaide fire,Incident #59,situation found 440, action taken 41,K45, over

fire8029

14-02-13 20:41:53   BURN: FIRE ALARM 5 GLEN ST BURNSIDE RESPOND MFS 82043780 CFSRES - CFS Burnside Response

There was this earlier

Raven

Quote from: Hazmat206 on February 14, 2013, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: adizz131 on February 14, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: Raven on February 14, 2013, 07:42:11 PM
Now this is awkward...

21:08:16 14-02-13 BURN INFO: ANYONE KNOW WHERE 24 AND BWC ARE? NOTHING ON BOARD, NOTHING IN OCCURANCE BOOK, NO PAGE AND NOT IN STATION... HAVE THEY BEEN STOLEN? CFS Burnside Info

Now this!

BURN INFO: HI GUYS ANY FU**ING CHANCE YOU COULD LET YOUR GROUP OFFICERS KNOW THAT YOU'VE SELF DEPLOYED TO A FIRE - CFS Burnside Info

So.... CFS respond themselves do they???

Someone's in for an asssssssssss whooping.
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.

Alan (Big Al)

They asked the IC of the job if they were required for assistance and they were asked to respond so they did..
Why should they get in the filtered?
Lt. Goolwa CFS

FlameTrees

Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on February 14, 2013, 08:07:33 PM
They asked the IC of the job if they were required for assistance and they were asked to respond so they did..
Why should they get in the filtered?

Because it is NOT the way the system is meant to work. If the IC needed them he should have made the appropriate request through Adelaide Fire.

By them basically inserting themselves into the job, they have effectively self responded. IMT / Region who are trying to manage the job would have no idea they are even out there. This is the sort of bull filtered that creates issues such as firefighters not getting fed, because catering is suddenly 5-10 meals short. Not to mention if there was another job that needed the 24, and it's not there because it hasnt been booked off accordingly (dont know if they did book off or not).

But I think the donkey whooping might refer more to the pager message itself. Someone is going to get the Chief Officers size 11 firmly implanted in their gluteus maximus for that one.
"is that negative as in yes, or negative as in no" - actual radio transmission from the field.......

HeavyRescue

Quote from: FlameTrees on February 14, 2013, 08:14:45 PM
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on February 14, 2013, 08:07:33 PM
They asked the IC of the job if they were required for assistance and they were asked to respond so they did..
Why should they get in the filtered?

Because it is NOT the way the system is meant to work. If the IC needed them he should have made the appropriate request through Adelaide Fire.

By them basically inserting themselves into the job, they have effectively self responded. IMT / Region who are trying to manage the job would have no idea they are even out there. This is the sort of bull filtered that creates issues such as firefighters not getting fed, because catering is suddenly 5-10 meals short. Not to mention if there was another job that needed the 24, and it's not there because it hasnt been booked off accordingly (dont know if they did book off or not).

But I think the donkey whooping might refer more to the pager message itself. Someone is going to get the Chief Officers size 11 firmly implanted in their gluteus maximus for that one.

I agree with this.
I was told that apparently Sturt base requested them, but not through AF.
Just go through official channels.
What if there was an incident in Burnside's area and they dispatched trucks that were at Mitcham...

Alex

#3816
Subtle work by the lofty group officers [assuming they are the ones who sent it]... i like it.

Alex

Quote from: FlameTrees on February 14, 2013, 08:14:45 PM
But I think the donkey whooping might refer more to the pager message itself. Someone is going to get the Chief Officers size 11 firmly implanted in their gluteus maximus for that one.

What are they gonna do... dock their pay?
besides, impossible to tell who sent it unless they were silly enough to do so from their personal PC.

Darius

it's pretty obvious who the person who sent that page was.  But that aside I'm not sure why some of you seem to be assuming Burnside didn't contact AF and so on. For info Burnside24 was dispatched by AF at 20:45 and their BWC at 20:56. Don't assume just cos you didn't see a pager message it wasn't done "properly".  If I was out in the truck at training with a crew and saw a fire, I too would contact the IC and offer my assistance, I don't see anything wrong with this at all, quite the opposite in fact.

misterteddy

I tend to agree, in this instance (and only this instance). The groups and brigades around this piece of land know exactly what it is, and the issues with water that exist, particularly at night when access to the tanks are difficult. Things were a bit exciting for a while, so its easy to be critical of an IC that is asked if they want a Tanker (BWC is just gay), and they say yes....not official process? Sure.....did it get a truck full of water to the fireground, where there wasnt any, when it was needed?....yes. If the worst thing happens that IMT is confused and they miss a meal....so be it. I'd take that as the On Scene Commander anyday. Sturt Base should have followed it up with AF after they said yes.....there were a few things that could have been improved in that area tonight.....but thats what happens....we do stuff, and we learn a bit more


OMGWTF

Quote from: misterteddy on February 15, 2013, 01:32:24 AM
I tend to agree, in this instance (and only this instance).


Always easy to bend the rules when it suits us hey Ted?

It's not hard to put the request through the appropriate channels.

misterteddy

Quote from: OMGWTF on February 15, 2013, 09:16:32 AM
It's not hard to put the request through the appropriate channels.

actually, it was at the time...for a few reasons....

Let's not concentrate on "the rules" per se, sure things can always go better, as I said, we do a job and we learn..... instead we could comment on the fact that the first arriving trucks (Belair) did an awesome job stopping this job getting away to the north east and into some seriously difficult (and populated) areas under some very strong gully winds. But thats not what excites the forum is it? It's ok....there'll be a rule for that I'm sure

vsteve01

I don't know if it is still the case, but in the past I've added resources to an incident without a page as the crew were already in the truck.  AF asked if we wanted it paged or not.

pumprescue

You can add resources without paging them.

Raven

Ugggghhhhhhh....

23:49:08 23-02-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0105 23/02/13 23:48 RESPOND UNDEFINED EVENT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, RIDDOCH CRES/PEGASUS DR WOODCROFT,MAP:ADL 177 K 7,TG 134, ==SMOKE COMING FROM DRAIN THAT HAS STICK PROTRUDING FROM IT! :HPPYPUMP : CFS Happy Valley Response, CFS Mawson Group Officers Response
F/F Sellicks Beach, Kyeema Group.