SAAS Responding Other Services..

[medevac]

This is just plain sloppy work by them 

dont be too hasty mate, just as likely to be SAPOLs fault... might be worth Happy Valley making a couple of phone calls and lodging a greivance form.... but on the other hand its MFS area.

[rescue5271]

better still listen to a GRN scanner and if its in your area call it in,I here a few brigades south od the city do that????

[medevac]

i wouldnt go doing that... maybe go out to the adress (if your that hardcore) confirm that it is there, then call it in...

if you have misheard it, there is always the possibility of getting yourself in the scheiße for an MFA or what have you... as call centres have ability to get CLI.

i thought about doing this yesterday, when i saw ambos page to a call in our area, heard them on scanner, saw ambulance and two cop cars go flying past... so i went and took a look, by the time i got there the car was gone, around 5 mins later.... now, if i had gone and called it in, then i would have looked like a filtered and wasted my brigades time... lol. i mean sure, SAPOL or SAAS should have called fire service upon reciept of the call by them, but you know what im getting at...

[rescue5271]

That is true,but the only soloution is a independent call center that is able to take the call and dispatch all services...Yes it does happen .....

[Toast]

The CFS are as bad, in terms of OIC's turning out other appliances at times. Ive seen/heard numerous occasions where brigade pride has taken precedence over getting appropriate resources to the scene at the earliest convenience.

[medevac]

^^hear hear
not to mention other services

was at a job once (flooding/salvage) where we required the SES due to the fact they carruy a wet/dry vac, and our group base didnt wanty to turn them out, querying why we couldnt finish the job ourselves.... took a while but we finally got them to play ball.

as you said toast, all comes back to pride.

[strikeathird]

Its simple.. If your group base / station will not action the Request of the I/C  .. go over them.....  " State Headquarters..."

[Toast]

I'm also talking about the IC themselves on the fireground...

[medevac]

Its simple.. If your group base / station will not action the Request of the I/C  .. go over them.....  " State Headquarters..."

i fully agree strike, and its exaclt what i would do if i ever had issues again...

but can you imagine the titty tantrums that would occur afterwards...?

[strikeathird]

Yea, thats it.. Altho you would have a fairly strong case if they refused your request for no justified reason.


If it happens you give your mate striker a call and he will give them an ear bashing :D

[medevac]

hahahahaha roger that

[CFS_Firey]

*cough* that was just "Roger" wasn't it? we all imagined that "that" at the end ;)

[medevac]

:wink:

[bajdas]

Lately I have noticed 'what I thought' was reasonably quick passing of incident information between the different Comcens. But something might have gone wrong....

15:07:44 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:05,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STH OF KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS IN ATT,75829*CFSRES:

15:06:14 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:04,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MAIN RD STH KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS ON SCENE,2348*CFSRES:

15:05:55 30-06-06 KAPD: RESPOND KAPUNDA STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES

15:01:12 30-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES KAPUNDA RESPOND MVA THIELE HWY, KAPUNDA - NEAR THE BRIDGE < 30/06/2006 15:01:00

14:35:25 30-06-06 BV84 Cat2 Thiele Hwy, Kapunda POLICE REQUIRED

[Alan (Big Al)]

Yeah we had a job the other night and there was a 15 minute difference between SAAS and us getting called, the bloke had absconded from the scene but the car was leaking LPG???

[The Assistant]

More often than not in our response area we only hear about vehicle accidents that SAAS attend when one of our members frives past and sees them there and we respond ourselves

Does fire cover and stabilisation mean nothing to these people.

[PF_]

What brigade are you from?


Respond yourself, did you buy some flashing lights to stick on the roof of your car and make siren noises "whee aw whee aw wheeaw woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wooo wooo woo woo wee wee wiouw"  :roll: :-P

[medevac]

Lately I have noticed 'what I thought' was reasonably quick passing of incident information between the different Comcens. But something might have gone wrong....

15:07:44 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:05,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STH OF KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS IN ATT,75829*CFSRES:

15:06:14 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:04,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MAIN RD STH KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS ON SCENE,2348*CFSRES:

15:05:55 30-06-06 KAPD: RESPOND KAPUNDA STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES

15:01:12 30-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES KAPUNDA RESPOND MVA THIELE HWY, KAPUNDA - NEAR THE BRIDGE < 30/06/2006 15:01:00

14:35:25 30-06-06 BV84 Cat2 Thiele Hwy, Kapunda POLICE REQUIRED

unfortunately the MFS system isnt capable of handling road names for all areas of the state... at this stage, so more than likely the info was passed on via landline.

[rescue5271]

can't the just type in the name??? or is there gear too old to do that..............

[medevac]

my understanding is that the street name and suburb/town has to verify in the system or it either wont work or just wont send appropriate resources...

from what i understand it is being worked on. this is why we contacntly see;
RESPOND RCR; KAPUNDA TOWN, KAPUNDA
or
RESPOND RCR; MEADOWS CFS, MEADOWS

etc etc

[rescue5271]

I see,now I know when we get paged from the MFS that it has no info .....

[medevac]

yeh, usually theyll try to put some extra info in the "otes" part of the msg.

saw Naracoorte get paged by MFS the other day, thought it had the correct street name and suburb in the right place???

MFS arent meant paging you guys (r5) anyway.

[rescue5271]

It was 000 call and yep it had the correct information,for once.

[Robert-Robert34]

What brigade are you from?


Respond yourself, did you buy some flashing lights to stick on the roof of your car and make siren noises "whee aw whee aw wheeaw woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wooo wooo woo woo wee wee wiouw"  :roll: :-P

I dont think thats wise PF the only way you can respond to an RCR in your own vehicle is if you happen to come across a Car Accident before SAAS,SACFS or SAPOL know about it  :-)

[medevac]

you can do whatever you like in a nufty brigade  :wink: