mutual aid...

[strikeathird]

K

[CFS_Firey]

Do you know what the MFS are planning to replace them with?  Are they instead using keywords, or are they just going back to "yeah Bob, nuff nuff just got here, we'll have a look around and see whats happening...".
Surely they've found a better way of doing it?

[JamesGar]

Not really sure what they'll be using instead, but gather that a mobile data terminal may be involved, then (again only a presumption) I'd say appropriate radio traffic like most other servies.

[TillerMan]

I saw the new MDT's the other day, they are touch screen, don't know how long they'll last in our feild of work.

[CyberCitizen]

Nothing Like Dirty Finger Marks All Over The Touch Screen.

[strikeathird]

SAPOL have been able to manage fore quite a while...  When you think about it, you should be wearing gloves at the job any way, and the only time the screen would really be used is enroute...  (EG The UBD funtcion or giving K1 Message etc)...  Can't be that heard to keep clean...

[oz fire]

More over - you can bet that only a selection of brigades get them - if they can't finish the roll out of fire stations interfaces and other items, they will never manage a role out of MDT's.

Probally Hazmat first with brigades who respond with MFS (both city and country) then who is anyones guess? Just a thought:-P

[medevac]

More over - you can bet that only a selection of brigades get them - if they can't finish the roll out of fire stations interfaces and other items, they will never manage a role out of MDT's.

Probally Hazmat first with brigades who respond with MFS (both city and country) then who is anyones guess? Just a thought:-P

sorry first if this sounds offensive..

but what are you talking about? theres no chance in hell of any CFS brigades getting MDTs i think pple have turned this thread into an MFS comms thread or something...

[oz fire]

More over - you can bet that only a selection of brigades get them - if they can't finish the roll out of fire stations interfaces and other items, they will never manage a role out of MDT's.

Probally Hazmat first with brigades who respond with MFS (both city and country) then who is anyones guess? Just a thought:-P

sorry first if this sounds offensive..

but what are you talking about? theres no chance in hell of any CFS brigades getting MDTs i think pple have turned this thread into an MFS comms thread or something...

No offense taken!

The first tender spec for supply of MDT's that was released had supply to CFS - but not a huge quantity - maybe they have changed their minds!

Anything is possible over time though!

[medevac]

geez.. cant imagine having MDTs in appliances.

would mean huge implications on comms procedures.. i can imagine it would mean all radio comms through state. would require huge tech upgrades to implement MDTs and make them manageable for brigade comms at stations..

[TillerMan]

SAPOL don't do anthing that gets them covered in water or dirt or oil etc so of coarse they haven't had any problem's. Will be pretty bad jumping in the rig to send a priority voice and you cover the screen in black charcoal and mud and water coz you didn't take youre gloves off in the rush to upgrade an alarm.

[CFS_Firey]

SAPOL don't do anthing that gets them covered in water or dirt or oil etc so of coarse they haven't had any problem's. Will be pretty bad jumping in the rig to send a priority voice and you cover the screen in black charcoal and mud and water coz you didn't take youre gloves off in the rush to upgrade an alarm.

Clean it afterwards

[strikeathird]

SAPOL don't do anthing that gets them covered in water or dirt or oil etc so of coarse they haven't had any problem's. Will be pretty bad jumping in the rig to send a priority voice and you cover the screen in black charcoal and mud and water coz you didn't take youre gloves off in the rush to upgrade an alarm.

SAMFS seem to manage to keep the current MDT's in reasonable order... And honestly, how often does the Officer in charge , or Incident Controller, get that filfthy that they cover their radio / MDT ..in black charcoal / oil / dirt..?....  At the end of the day, if it gets dirty, clean it !!  Simple!  Considering the MDT / Screen would be probably used enroute, to look up where the are going on the digital UBD, used to show call details, location information, and updated call info and who and where resources are coming from...

 (Plus, they can get "sleves" which go over the screens, like the peel off visors that race car drivers have. When it gets to dirty, you swipe one off...  Also protects the screen    )

[Alan (Big Al)]

When down at the station always hear mets on the scanner using the K-codes, i know a few, but i was just wondering if anyone can post the full set on here if it's allowed??

[strikeathird]

Got this off the Net somewhere:

K Code    Usage
K0   >3 Minute Response
K1   Responding to Incident.
K2   Arrived at Incident.
K3   At Incident available to run.
K4   Mobile and available in home area.
K5   Off and clear at home station.
K6   Available in another stations area.       
K7   At another station...
K8   (Appliances) = Delayed response.
K8   (On call) = Available at home.
K9   (Appliances) = Vehicle unattended.
K9   (On call) = On pager.
    
K10   Activate hyperbaric chamber.
K11-(X)   Amulance required (Qty casualties).
K12   ETSA required.
K13   SAGasCo required.
K14   Police required (reason).
K15   Fire cause investigator required.
K16   SES required (reason).
K17   CFS required (reason).
K23   Specialist advice required.
K24   Dangerous goods info required.
K24- 2    Dangerous goods info to follow.
K25   Unable to proceed (reason).
K26   Proceed to and stand by at...
K27   Arrived at...
K28   Return to station.
K29   Return other appliances
K30   Received stop for Incident
K31   Proceed code green
K31 -2    Proceed code red
K32   Request alarm status.
K32 - 2    Alarm has cleared.
K32 - 3    Alarm has not cleared.
K34   Details to follow.
K35   Request map reference.
K36   Verify address.
K37-(CH)   Change to channel xx
K38   Initial control.
K38 - 2    Initial control centre.
K38 - 3    Incident control centre.
K39   Change of command (Name).
    
K40   Bomb alert.
K41   Fatality/ies.
K42   Persons reported.
K43   Persons accounted for.
K44   Appliances involved for extended time.
K45   No further developments.
K46   Relief crews required.
    
K55   Arrived on scene, Special services incident (Vehicle accident, storm damage etc)
K66   Arrived on scene, Rubbish, grass etc. fire.
K77   Arrived on scene, No sign of fire.
K88   Arrived on scene, Small property fire.
K99   Arrived on scene, Well Involved.

[CyberCitizen]

When down at the station always hear mets on the scanner using the K-codes, i know a few, but i was just wondering if anyone can post the full set on here if it's allowed??

Yeah You Can Get Them Of Mattb's Site.  Scan SA

[Alan (Big Al)]

Cheers Fellas (I think)  

[Chuck]

My best understanding of the use of K-codes was when in MFS area the CFS is acting as a MFS appliance rules and uses their K-codes. The use of them isnt hard, we have a table on the dash of the truck saying what they all mean, and it doesnt take long before u dont even need to look anymore. The use of K-codes makes thing run more smoothly.

[6739264]

My best understanding of the use of K-codes was when in MFS area the CFS is acting as a MFS appliance rules and uses their K-codes. The use of them isnt hard, we have a table on the dash of the truck saying what they all mean, and it doesnt take long before u dont even need to look anymore. The use of K-codes makes thing run more smoothly.

No, no, and no.

Also, nice work on the thread necromancy.

[Darren]

You would think K codes weren't that hard. You should be on the end of the radio with people trying to use them ! There is a reason the CFS stopped us using them 

[mattb]

What about CFS appliances using the MFS stop codes ?? 

I hear a few brigades using them occasionally, what do people think about that ?

[safireservice]

What about CFS appliances using the MFS stop codes ?? 

I hear a few brigades using them occasionally, what do people think about that ?

Thats all good until it gets stuffed up. Once heard a S/O rattle off all these stop and situation codes on a CFS channel and the operator politely said thats ok but how about in plain english this time?

[6739264]

Atleast the AIRS codes are not service specific. Mind you, don't quite get why SAMFS need to pass all alarm details by R/T - Surley they can go on the Fire Report? The 700 codes I can understand, but the rest?

[Alex]

Atleast the AIRS codes are not service specific. Mind you, don't quite get why SAMFS need to pass all alarm details by R/T - Surley they can go on the Fire Report? The 700 codes I can understand, but the rest?

I hear ya there... a sit found action taken would be nice. The officer can fill the rest in when he does his report.

[SA Firey]

As per the COSO's CFS are not to use K Codes, cant see these codes being any different or likely to change anytime soon.