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Firedoc02:
I believe Mt Barker did in the letter they wrote. Agree it has gone on too long which is very unfair on the folk from the Mt Barker Brigade

cfsfirey911:
And another advantage of being is retained is having a genuine heavy pumper or 2. the only proper heavy pump in cfs is Burnside..In Mt Barkers case also the back up for structure jobs could include aerial appliances, BA support etc. AS well as nearby CFS of course.

Firedoc02:
Under the MOU with  MFS we already have access to all their range of appliances. A number of brigades around SA have appliances with the same pumping capacity as MFS pumpers, Agree however in strategic areas a few more would be ideal

pumprescue:
You seem to know a lot about something that is a closed process and wasn't to be spoken about outside of the process? Only a staff member could know details, poor judgement if you are a staff member.

The process was instigated due to the complete lack of interest on the part of the CFS, they don't wish to progress past a certain point and are happy to ignore issues that don't involve bushfires. In fact they insisted the CFS is a rural focused fire service. Isn't it amusing that 6 years ago mt barker was in a better position than they are , why aren't CFS interested, tell me that?

Firedoc02:
The problem with Cfs is that it is an open book.. If you think confidences are kept then your are sadly mistaken. With a little research most people can find out what is happening in the Cfs, MFS, or SES.

You are CFS! The rules that are made up within the Service either are government mandated or agreed to and approved by volunteers. The RVMC is made up of volunteers, the chief officers advisory forum is made up of volunteers, all committees and working parties have volunteers on them.

I agree with you that Mt Barker has taken too long but to group all CFS into one category and say that CFS is only focused on rural incidents is also wrong - yes it may be the case with some of those connected with the Mt Barker issue but there are a number of volunteers and staff that are trying to progress CFS to be more than a rural fire service.

As I said previously hopefully the folk at Mt Barker get what they are after irrespectively of whether or not that is with CFS or MFS.

The point I am trying to make is that we volunteers are CFS and during the Ministers round table discussions we need to put forward a model for change so that we can improve some of the things we have been discussing in this thread. We can whinge or we can do something about it. It really is our choice!

If I were a staff member why is it poor judgement to put forward a concept and an opinion? I certainly don't look upon staff any differently to a volunteer. Finding out the opinion of another person gives you more wisdom to make the right decision.  Keeping an open mind  helps but unfortunately inaction from CFS on some matters does not also help.

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