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New 24 prototype
Alan (Big Al):
The current SEM build of 34p is a step back in time with the missing full length drivers side locker and most if not all RCR brigades would struggle to fit an RCR kit and 4 BA sets on that appliance, and i think you could forget any RCR equipment on an U/R 34
CFS_Firey:
--- Quote from: Alan J on December 04, 2011, 03:55:09 AM ---I think the heavy concept tanker photos that were kicking around were only ever a CFA idea float.
NSW RFS have implemented one or more extra heavy tankers out on the Hay Plain.
Can't remember their designation for it but it is a 6,000L fire fighting rural appliance,
as distinct from a 6,000BWC.
We probably ought to offer 5 or more standard heavy appliances:
* Rural 24 - as per this thread's sketches - crew deck & limited locker space
Hills brigade's second appliance to complement their 34P or 34U/R
* Rural 44 - with limited locker space acceptable - big tank & crew deck, but no CABA or RCR
* Rural/Urban 34 - smaller crew deck & tankage with slightly increased locker space for CABA / RCR
* Urban/Rural 34 - no crew deck, even more locker space
* 34P - as per current Skilled buildPlus light appliances for access - 14's & QA's
My 2 bob's worth anyway.
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I'd add an Urban Pumper to that list.
Also I wonder what you propose to be the difference between the 34P and Urban/Rural 34 given the difference between current 34 and 34Ps is locker setup?
misterteddy:
heaven forbid we could have a rescue appliance that carried more than lightweight Road Crash gear
CFS_Firey:
--- Quote from: misterteddy on December 04, 2011, 09:39:43 AM ---heaven forbid we could have a rescue appliance that carried more than lightweight Road Crash gear
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Not to mention a Rescue Appliance as opposed to a Road Crash Rescue appliance. (or is that supposed to be rescue tanker?)
Alan J:
--- Quote from: CFS_Firey on December 04, 2011, 07:56:21 AM ---I'd add an Urban Pumper to that list.
Also I wonder what you propose to be the difference between the 34P and Urban/Rural 34 given the difference between current 34 and 34Ps is locker setup?
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OK....
can't speak to the current builds - our 34 urban stowage is Moores 2009/10
Was thinking 34P = Skilled build like Belair 34P, or our ex-NSWRFS PTO 34P
(which we look like hanging onto for an extra year or so YAY!!!)
A 34 urban/rural being more like our Moores 34 minus crew deck (no use to us)
plus extra locker/stowage space. Maybe unstrangle the pump with revised plumbing.
34 rural/urban - pretty much what our Moores 34 is. (With a few mods including
unstrangling the pump plumbing)
Pumper & RCR are good additions, but not "tankers" in the Eastern States sense
of the word, which (officially) we have adopted.
It seems we are slowly drifting towards what the NSW RFS have had for years.
Would probably make some sense to simply buy their designs.
NOT perfect, but certainly functional, and cover most of the bases being
discussed here, including recognising different areas have different needs.
http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/dsp_content.cfm?cat_id=1118
There is/was also a Cat.2 - similar to our 24 specs but not listed here.
food for thought?
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