SACAD

[misterteddy]

so a half arsed work around instead of what should be expected in a Fire appliance?.....thought we were trying to get away from short cuts and bandaid fixes??

[bajdas]

\\ Roll on in-cab data terminals.

Ive been peddling the idea of smartphones in all appliances.
Instant GPS for AVL [vehicle location] and whack in an app to make it receive events, generate maps and directions and send status updates... could even do voice requests.

A system based on APRS was also mentioned to some people about 12 months ago. Got no interest from hierarchy.

[pumprescue]

Not much gets any interest from hierarchy!

[Skippy]

what time is it expected to go live?

[CFS_Firey]

what time is it expected to go live?

Last I heard was some time late tomorrow (Monday) night.  When, will be dependent on how busy the various services are.

[fire8029]

we got told we have to have someone at the station between 23.00 mon night to 23.00 tues night incase the pagers dont go off, they will ring the station.

[pumprescue]

That's a bit extreme, more than 1 way to set the pagers off!!

[FlameTrees]

In todays time of phone diversions / mobile phones, that seems to be very weird. Would have thought that would be handled at a group or even regional level if it is actually required.

[mattb]

Go live is planned for midnight tonight (Tuesday morning), should take about 3 or 4 hours.

[pumprescue]

Or not......watch this space

[FlameTrees]

Page just went out from Renmark Mets saying go live has been delayed another 48 hours.

:roll:

[Pipster]

Email from the SACAD implementation team this morning (Monday) advises implementation held over for 48 hours, due to concerns for weather conditions, particularly on Tuesday.

At this stage due to occur Wednesday night......

Pip

[pumprescue]

Who cares about the weather....

[amboman69]

I think you will find they don't dare put it to air if there is any chance of a fire breaking out - if the SAAS experience is anything to go by.

[OMGWTF]

I think you will find they don't dare put it to air if there is any chance of a fire breaking out - if the SAAS experience is anything to go by.

Makes you wonder how much faith the cheifs have in the software and there data, when they are cancelling based on a fireban or two...

[brenjoe]

For info from R2 HQ: SACAD transition scheduled for 00:00hrs 29/11/11 has been postponed by 48 hours and rescheduled for 00:00hrs thursday 01/12/2011.  :roll:

[FlameTrees]

For info from R2 HQ: SACAD transition scheduled for 00:00hrs 29/11/11 has been postponed by 48 hours and rescheduled for 00:00hrs thursday 01/12/2011.  :roll:

Whilst technically wrong (the time of 00:00 does not actually exist, it goes from 23:59 to 00:01 for 2 minutes) this is saying that the transition was meant to happen midnight monday night / tuesday morning and now pushed to midnight wednesday night / thursday morning.

[pumprescue]

Having seen some of the efforts with data collection I to would have no faith in it.....we shall see what happens Thursday morning.

[Alan J]

well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

:-D

[FlameTrees]

well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

:-D

04:31:00 *CFSRES INC0999 01/12/11 04:31 RESPOND HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, ALAN J'S PLACE,MAP:ADL 999 Z72 ,TG 586,  :AIRDESK LAWNMOWER VACUUM :

Hmm, looks like they were sent.......didnt they arrive??


:-D

[misterteddy]

well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

:-D

04:31:00 *CFSRES INC0999 01/12/11 04:31 RESPOND HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, ALAN J'S PLACE,MAP:ADL 999 Z72 ,TG 586,  :AIRDESK LAWNMOWER VACUUM :

Hmm, looks like they were sent.......didnt they arrive??


:-D

so assuming they were sent.....no mobile call, no arrival call....but no default to the next suitable resource....SACAD still fails

[bajdas]

well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

:-D

04:31:00 *CFSRES INC0999 01/12/11 04:31 RESPOND HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, ALAN J'S PLACE,MAP:ADL 999 Z72 ,TG 586,  :AIRDESK LAWNMOWER VACUUM :

Hmm, looks like they were sent.......didnt they arrive??


:-D

so assuming they were sent.....no mobile call, no arrival call....but no default to the next suitable resource....SACAD still fails

I don't think a "..next suitable response.." exists to this type of incident. Some things are best left alone & walk away shaking the head.  :roll:

[Zippy]

First clear example of how the system works if acknowledgement/mobile isnt done.

MFS: *CFSRES INC0185 01/12/11 22:22 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, PORT ST GLADSTONE,MAP:SGL 1 H11,TG 066, ==FIRE IN THE CREEK OPPOSITE 92 GLADSTONE ST :AIRDESK GLAD34 GRGT24 :

12 minutes later... MFS: *CFSRES INC0185 01/12/11 22:33 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, PORT ST GLADSTONE,MAP:SGL 1 H11,TG 066, ==FIRE IN THE CREEK OPPOSITE 92 GLADSTONE ST ==INITIAL ALARM UNITS FAIL TO ACK :AIRDESK CALT24 LAUR34 :

6 mins later... MFS: STOP FOR INC185 (all except Gladstone)

20mins later... MFS: CALT24 - STOP FOR INC185 (to Caltowie)

[pumprescue]

The sooner folks get used to it the better!

[Alex]

A bit of additional time trying to chase them up as thy had been out to multiple similar minor incidents over the past short while. Those attempts were unsuccessful so out went the default only to receive a radio MSG shortly after from Gladstone that they were on scene.

Do yourselves, your neighboring brigades and Adelaide Fire a solid and don't forget those acknowledgements and mobile messages.