Author Topic: SACAD (Read 271166 times)

misterteddy · « **Reply #175 on:** November 26, 2011, 02:22:28 PM »

so a half arsed work around instead of what should be expected in a Fire appliance?.....thought we were trying to get away from short cuts and bandaid fixes??

bajdas · « **Reply #176 on:** November 26, 2011, 02:25:18 PM »

Quote from: Alex on November 26, 2011, 09:08:59 AM

Quote from: Alan J on November 25, 2011, 10:03:59 AM
\\ Roll on in-cab data terminals.

Ive been peddling the idea of smartphones in all appliances.
Instant GPS for AVL [vehicle location] and whack in an app to make it receive events, generate maps and directions and send status updates... could even do voice requests.

A system based on APRS was also mentioned to some people about 12 months ago. Got no interest from hierarchy.

pumprescue · « **Reply #177 on:** November 26, 2011, 02:34:21 PM »

Not much gets any interest from hierarchy!

Skippy · « **Reply #178 on:** November 27, 2011, 04:27:45 PM »

what time is it expected to go live?

CFS_Firey · « **Reply #179 on:** November 27, 2011, 06:41:50 PM »

Quote from: Skippy on November 27, 2011, 04:27:45 PM

what time is it expected to go live?

Last I heard was some time late tomorrow (Monday) night. When, will be dependent on how busy the various services are.

fire8029 · « **Reply #180 on:** November 27, 2011, 07:45:35 PM »

we got told we have to have someone at the station between 23.00 mon night to 23.00 tues night incase the pagers dont go off, they will ring the station.

pumprescue · « **Reply #181 on:** November 27, 2011, 08:03:33 PM »

That's a bit extreme, more than 1 way to set the pagers off!!

FlameTrees · « **Reply #182 on:** November 27, 2011, 08:09:59 PM »

In todays time of phone diversions / mobile phones, that seems to be very weird. Would have thought that would be handled at a group or even regional level if it is actually required.

mattb · « **Reply #183 on:** November 28, 2011, 07:30:32 AM »

Go live is planned for midnight tonight (Tuesday morning), should take about 3 or 4 hours.

pumprescue · « **Reply #184 on:** November 28, 2011, 07:55:51 AM »

Or not......watch this space

FlameTrees · « **Reply #185 on:** November 28, 2011, 08:48:43 AM »

Page just went out from Renmark Mets saying go live has been delayed another 48 hours.

Pipster · « **Reply #186 on:** November 28, 2011, 10:19:38 AM »

Email from the SACAD implementation team this morning (Monday) advises implementation held over for 48 hours, due to concerns for weather conditions, particularly on Tuesday.

At this stage due to occur Wednesday night......

Pip

pumprescue · « **Reply #187 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:00:17 AM »

Who cares about the weather....

amboman69 · « **Reply #188 on:** November 29, 2011, 02:01:02 PM »

I think you will find they don't dare put it to air if there is any chance of a fire breaking out - if the SAAS experience is anything to go by.

OMGWTF · « **Reply #189 on:** November 29, 2011, 07:35:13 PM »

Quote from: amboman69 on November 29, 2011, 02:01:02 PM

I think you will find they don't dare put it to air if there is any chance of a fire breaking out - if the SAAS experience is anything to go by.

Makes you wonder how much faith the cheifs have in the software and there data, when they are cancelling based on a fireban or two...

brenjoe · « **Reply #190 on:** November 29, 2011, 09:43:18 PM »

For info from R2 HQ: SACAD transition scheduled for 00:00hrs 29/11/11 has been postponed by 48 hours and rescheduled for 00:00hrs thursday 01/12/2011.

FlameTrees · « **Reply #191 on:** November 30, 2011, 04:43:22 AM »

Quote from: brenjoe on November 29, 2011, 09:43:18 PM

For info from R2 HQ: SACAD transition scheduled for 00:00hrs 29/11/11 has been postponed by 48 hours and rescheduled for 00:00hrs thursday 01/12/2011.

Whilst technically wrong (the time of 00:00 does not actually exist, it goes from 23:59 to 00:01 for 2 minutes) this is saying that the transition was meant to happen midnight monday night / tuesday morning and now pushed to midnight wednesday night / thursday morning.

pumprescue · « **Reply #192 on:** November 30, 2011, 07:38:15 AM »

Having seen some of the efforts with data collection I to would have no faith in it.....we shall see what happens Thursday morning.

Alan J · « **Reply #193 on:** December 01, 2011, 12:27:41 AM »

well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

FlameTrees · « **Reply #194 on:** December 01, 2011, 04:51:03 AM »

Quote from: Alan J on December 01, 2011, 12:27:41 AM

well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

04:31:00 *CFSRES INC0999 01/12/11 04:31 RESPOND HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, ALAN J'S PLACE,MAP:ADL 999 Z72 ,TG 586, :AIRDESK LAWNMOWER VACUUM :

Hmm, looks like they were sent.......didnt they arrive??

misterteddy · « **Reply #195 on:** December 01, 2011, 06:01:25 AM »

Quote from: FlameTrees on December 01, 2011, 04:51:03 AM

Quote from: Alan J on December 01, 2011, 12:27:41 AM
well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

04:31:00 *CFSRES INC0999 01/12/11 04:31 RESPOND HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, ALAN J'S PLACE,MAP:ADL 999 Z72 ,TG 586, :AIRDESK LAWNMOWER VACUUM :

Hmm, looks like they were sent.......didnt they arrive??

so assuming they were sent.....no mobile call, no arrival call....but no default to the next suitable resource....SACAD still fails

bajdas · « **Reply #196 on:** December 01, 2011, 09:18:08 AM »

Quote from: misterteddy on December 01, 2011, 06:01:25 AM

Quote from: FlameTrees on December 01, 2011, 04:51:03 AM
Quote from: Alan J on December 01, 2011, 12:27:41 AM
well, it's Thursday morning, & so far the sky hasn't fallen nor the world ended.

However, my lawn still needs mowing, and the floors vacuuming.
So I therefore declare SACAD to be an abject failure.

04:31:00 *CFSRES INC0999 01/12/11 04:31 RESPOND HOUSEHOLD DUTIES, ALAN J'S PLACE,MAP:ADL 999 Z72 ,TG 586, :AIRDESK LAWNMOWER VACUUM :

Hmm, looks like they were sent.......didnt they arrive??

so assuming they were sent.....no mobile call, no arrival call....but no default to the next suitable resource....SACAD still fails

I don't think a "..next suitable response.." exists to this type of incident. Some things are best left alone & walk away shaking the head.

Zippy · « **Reply #197 on:** December 01, 2011, 09:35:48 PM »

First clear example of how the system works if acknowledgement/mobile isnt done.

MFS: *CFSRES INC0185 01/12/11 22:22 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, PORT ST GLADSTONE,MAP:SGL 1 H11,TG 066, ==FIRE IN THE CREEK OPPOSITE 92 GLADSTONE ST :AIRDESK GLAD34 GRGT24 :

12 minutes later... MFS: *CFSRES INC0185 01/12/11 22:33 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, PORT ST GLADSTONE,MAP:SGL 1 H11,TG 066, ==FIRE IN THE CREEK OPPOSITE 92 GLADSTONE ST ==INITIAL ALARM UNITS FAIL TO ACK :AIRDESK CALT24 LAUR34 :

6 mins later... MFS: STOP FOR INC185 (all except Gladstone)

20mins later... MFS: CALT24 - STOP FOR INC185 (to Caltowie)

pumprescue · « **Reply #198 on:** December 02, 2011, 03:38:26 AM »

The sooner folks get used to it the better!

Alex · « **Reply #199 on:** December 02, 2011, 07:13:16 AM »

A bit of additional time trying to chase them up as thy had been out to multiple similar minor incidents over the past short while. Those attempts were unsuccessful so out went the default only to receive a radio MSG shortly after from Gladstone that they were on scene.

Do yourselves, your neighboring brigades and Adelaide Fire a solid and don't forget those acknowledgements and mobile messages.

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