WFAM page interpretation

[mengcfs]

Can someone please tell what the 321/001 is on this page. It is not included with the original page but is generated in the second AF page.

MFS: *CFSRES INC016 01/06/11 09:35,RESPOND ALARM 321/001,******* HOSPITAL,2 SOUTH TCE,******** MAP 0 0 0 TG201,ASE DEVICE 030,FIP,

[Pipster]

Looks like the addressable device - eg the particular device that has activated in a particular zone

Pip

[Alex]

Hi mate.

321/001 is the alarm number for that premises allocated by BOMS [the CAD system currently used in Adelaide Fire]. The FireMon system has ASE numbers for alarms which begin at 1 and go up from there, when an ASE activates, Adelaide Fire get a notification which shows that premises alarm number for the BOMS alarm system so that a response can be generated.

In your example, 321 represents the 'virtual concentrator' the alarm is on, but it is basically the station number of the primary brigade.

001 is the number of the alarm on that concentrator. If there were multiple fire alarm connections in that brigades area you would see 321/002, 321/003 etc.

With the introduction of SACAD, you will only see/receive one response page, and all will be less confusing ;)

Hope that helps.
Alex

Pip, your reply posted while i was typing this. That alarm number is purely for the premises connection. It does not refer to the particular detector or zone.

[Zippy]

These alarm numbers are quite useful,  seen them in use around the place to identify keys for each alarm in the brigade area.

It ensures key security as well...instead of labeling a set of keys at the station as 'such and such hospital'.  You can label them 321/001.

[fire8029]

i thought that the first three numbers were the station area. eg 033/034 is elizabeth area

[mengcfs]

Thanks for the info Alex.
Much appreciated. Always like it when someone explains things thouroughly - it all makes sense  :wink:
Cheers,
Adam.

[safireservice]

So why do we have to be re-paged by AF if we already receive the page anyway?

[uniden]

So why do we have to be re-paged by AF if we already receive the page anyway?

Just to create the call on the AIRS I believe. So it is available to create the fire report later.

[Alex]

i thought that the first three numbers were the station area. eg 033/034 is elizabeth area

The concentrator numbers do generally correspond to the stations they are situated in. However some stations have more than one and some don't have one at all so it is not a steadfast rule.

[Pipster]

Pip, your reply posted while i was typing this. That alarm number is purely for the premises connection. It does not refer to the particular detector or zone.

No trouble....was trying to remember the stuff you typed, but had managed to forget it after the CIFSS course (whoops)

Pip

[CFS_Firey]

So why do we have to be re-paged by AF if we already receive the page anyway?

I believe some systems page the brigade and some only page Adelaide fire.  Once (or maybe a couple of times) Adelaide fire didn't realise that the brigade hadn't been paged, and it resulted in a delayed response.  Because of that they decided that they'd re-page all alarms.  (and yes, it creates a DIN for the job).

[Alex]

So why do we have to be re-paged by AF if we already receive the page anyway?

I believe some systems page the brigade and some only page Adelaide fire.  Once (or maybe a couple of times) Adelaide fire didn't realise that the brigade hadn't been paged, and it resulted in a delayed response.  Because of that they decided that they'd re-page all alarms.  (and yes, it creates a DIN for the job).

There was some confusion a while back due to having differant procedures for CFS alarms, MFS retained alarms and MFS full time [metro area] alarms. One procedure [to put all alarms through BOMS and page resources] was put in place to avoid issues and confusion.