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Offline Skippy

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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« on: November 16, 2011, 06:53:50 PM »
16-11-11 20:22:25 MFS:*CFSRES: INC 079 brigade RESPOND domestic fire, unit 32 , 59 norman st adelaide, second floor - MFS Adelaide ADL205

What's up with these responses
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 07:11:51 PM »
Quote from: Skippy on November 16, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
16-11-11 20:22:25 MFS:*CFSRES: INC 079 brigade RESPOND domestic fire, unit 32 , 59 norman st adelaide, second floor - MFS Adelaide ADL205

What's up with these responses

Something busted and they're are manually doing them?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 07:45:45 PM »
Quote from: vsteve01 on November 16, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: Skippy on November 16, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
16-11-11 20:22:25 MFS:*CFSRES: INC 079 brigade RESPOND domestic fire, unit 32 , 59 norman st adelaide, second floor - MFS Adelaide ADL205

What's up with these responses

Something busted and they're are manually doing them?

SACAD offline and now this

MFS:*CFSRES: INC 082 COONALPYN & TAILEM BEND RESPOND HOUSE FIRE 49 WARRENGIE DR MENINGIE KITCHEN FIRE. BA OPERATORS REQUIRED - CFS Tailem Bend Response
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 07:54:21 PM »
However, will SACAD will still go ahead on 28th of November?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 08:00:32 PM »
MFS:*CFSRES: INC 86 RESPOND FIRE ALARM 040/114 ARMY TRAINING DEPO 177 OAKLANDS ED OAKLANDS PARK I 3 SPK BUILDING 232 MAP 140 J 11 - MFS St Marys STM401

Crews are being paged and then voice request to tell Adelaide Fire they are responding.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 08:03:09 PM »
Good old Boms broken.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 08:04:41 PM »
there are SACAD tests flowing through to twitter https://twitter.com/#!/CFSAlerts from the incident page http://www.cfs.sa.gov.au/site/news_media/current_incidents.jsp
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 08:44:34 AM »
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SACAD offline and now this

MFS:*CFSRES: INC 082 COONALPYN & TAILEM BEND RESPOND HOUSE FIRE 49 WARRENGIE DR MENINGIE KITCHEN FIRE. BA OPERATORS REQUIRED - CFS Tailem Bend Response

Whats the problem with this message...I have been out at a job all night so might be missing something. No Brigade codes?
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 08:53:18 AM »
Rehearsal for the SACAD changeover, and testing contingency paging system.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 02:52:51 PM »
Quote from: mengcfs on November 17, 2011, 08:44:34 AM
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SACAD offline and now this

MFS:*CFSRES: INC 082 COONALPYN & TAILEM BEND RESPOND HOUSE FIRE 49 WARRENGIE DR MENINGIE KITCHEN FIRE. BA OPERATORS REQUIRED - CFS Tailem Bend Response

Whats the problem with this message...I have been out at a job all night so might be missing something. No Brigade codes?

Problems
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- No Allocated talkgroup to the incident. Quite important at group boundaries.
- No automated allocation of resources, manually driven.
- Slower message creation when multiple incidents or quick escalation of incidents occur.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 03:01:21 PM »
Quote from: Zippy on November 17, 2011, 02:52:51 PM
Quote from: mengcfs on November 17, 2011, 08:44:34 AM
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SACAD offline and now this

MFS:*CFSRES: INC 082 COONALPYN & TAILEM BEND RESPOND HOUSE FIRE 49 WARRENGIE DR MENINGIE KITCHEN FIRE. BA OPERATORS REQUIRED - CFS Tailem Bend Response

Whats the problem with this message...I have been out at a job all night so might be missing something. No Brigade codes?

Problems
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- No Allocated talkgroup to the incident. Quite important at group boundaries.
- No automated allocation of resources, manually driven.
- Slower message creation when multiple incidents or quick escalation of incidents occur.

Reminds me of the old SHQ pages
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 04:18:44 PM »
Its a simple back up to get someone on the road, they might use it once a year if that.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 06:02:26 PM »
It could be an issue if a standard format isn't followed, as I believe nearly all metro MFS stations are now using the TIM system for station turnout.

TIM won't like randomly formatted messages, it will probably still work but may not give a correct voice over or map print out. I guess they would have found out the other night though if it didn't work.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »
As long as CFSRES triggers the bells to drop and the lights come on it doesn't matter too much. Officers are paid to where there pagers and should be capable of responding via that.

CFS should be capable of responding to a page with CFSRES an incident type and a location... we didnt have TGs on response messaging before about two years ago. I'm sure they'd manage.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2011, 06:32:17 PM »
NCB188 PR: 2 - GAP RD THE GAP D0693 Disp: 18:57 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Naracoorte

MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 10/12/11 19:57 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, GAP RD THE GAP,MAP:C/31 54,TG 227, ==1KM WEST OF CADGEE RD, WITH ENTRAPMENT :BNNM34 NRCT19

Ouch 1 hour difference is not good  :|
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Re: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2011, 07:29:30 PM »
Quote from: Alan (Big Al) on December 10, 2011, 06:32:17 PM
NCB188 PR: 2 - GAP RD THE GAP D0693 Disp: 18:57 Traffic / T - SAAS Unit Naracoorte

MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 10/12/11 19:57 RESPOND ROAD CRASH RESCUE, GAP RD THE GAP,MAP:C/31 54,TG 227, ==1KM WEST OF CADGEE RD, WITH ENTRAPMENT :BNNM34 NRCT19

Ouch 1 hour difference is not good  :|

SACAD will fix it...
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2011, 07:45:10 PM »
heard that line before lol
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 11:35:31 AM »
InterCAD [the link between SAAS/SApol/AdelaideFire's CAD] is yet to be turned on... So still relying on phone calls between comcens.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 12:52:05 PM »
Thanks Alex, at least there is something in the pipeline for it.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 10:20:40 PM »
Al, when that comes online we will receive automatic notifications for events warranting fire or ses attendance. 

Feb is the rumor.
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Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2011, 10:50:19 PM »
nifty feature, should make things a tad easier for all comms people out there
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